August 29, 2024 • 9 mins
Elliott Smith joins Hamish McKay out of Johannesburg ahead of commentating the All Blacks v Springboks match this weekend
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Oh, let's go to Johannesburg, up on to the high Veldt,
where a commentator for Sunday Morning's game, Elliott Smith is Elliott,
how are you doing over there? You're affected by the
altitude or is it something that doesn't bother anybody anymore?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Oh, Hamish, I'll be honest with you. This is my
first time in Johannesburg, and I've had a couple of
bleeding noses from the altitude over the last few days. Yeah,
and I am prone to a nosebley here and there,
but the altitude has got to me the years, a
little bit thinner, the throat gets a little bit dryer.
But I'm a pretty good company. I'm assured that one
(00:39):
of the All Blacks I one't name who, but has
also been copping some nosebleeds as soon as they landed
in Johannesburg. So I'm in a good company there. But
otherwise enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah. And some people have sort of talked about it
being a bit of a myth from the past, you know,
it was a really one of those easy go to
files to do a story on. But clearly it's not
because I know I felt, you know, I'm a bit
of an asthmatic, and you know since day dot and
so yeah, it is a different space to be in,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It really is. And look when you consider a lot
of these players or some of them, haven't been to
South Africa before full stop playing rugby with no South
African teams in Super Rugby anymore. And the ones that
are still or have had that previous experience haven't been
here for a couple of years and only really come
every couple of years now since South Africa left Super
(01:28):
Rugby and the changes to the Rugby Championship around the
scheduling there, it is different. It is different when you
arrivee there is a different feeling. But so in the
back end of this game, come Sunday morning in New
Zealand time, you know, sixty seventy minutes, that's when the
lungs will really start burning and the All Blacks will
have to try and find ways to put it out
of their minds and keep putting their heads down and
(01:50):
getting into those rucks and bulls and all those dark
places and trying to get a result.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, so we've got the right team to get that result.
Happy with the side, Yeah, luck.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I quite like Hey Masho. I think look at both
of the changes injury and forced or injury related. With
the return of Scott Barrett in the second row, I
think he instantly adds plenty to that second row. Sam
Darry has done a fine job last couple of weeks,
but having a captain back in the line out marshal
that Scott Barrett is I think is exceptional to have
(02:21):
him back in the mix flour this Test match. Tupo
Bay is really really growing. I think is a Test
match footballer as well. They called the lineouts over the
last couple of weeks really liking what he's done, So
I think it's a boost having Scott Barrett back. Then
your eyes go to the open side flank and Sam
Kaine now Dolden Papalletti with a thumb injury. But I
think it would have been a close cool regardless between
(02:43):
these two. And I just think the edge that Sam
Kaine brings that the physicality is going to be vital
in this Test match. We know how good he was
in that quarter final against Ireland last year in a
similar type of Test match. Obviously the final was one
that he wants to forget. Given the recard in that match.
(03:04):
But you know, if he can play that sort of
way did against Iiland in the quarter final, he'll go
a long way to helping the All Blacks win this game.
So otherwise, I think you look at that team and
go Scott Robertson and his selectors have got a fairly
settled run on fifteen. There's a few tweaks to the
bench or with Sam Penny Fenale there this week, but
I think by and large they've found there first fifteen
(03:25):
and they're willing to back it to the Hilton and
to get the result this weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Great point you make about Sam Kaine in the quarter final,
and I also go back to what I thought was
a full front all the bottomy moment from Steve Hanson
when he left him out of the twenty nineteen semi
final against England. I think he's gonna you know, it's
always hard been the next guy after Richie McCaul, but
I think the history will tell us Sam Kaine has
been a wonderful All Black open side flanker, so I'm
(03:50):
quite happy to see him get that. Not much cover
on the bench, so I guess when a summer penny
female is and what I guess we'll see could see
Blackadder break where a lot of people think he might
be best suited number seven.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we'll get some game time, I'm
sure for Sema Penny female late in the game, and
I think it's interesting to see what role he might play.
Obviously play those first two tests against England struggled to
really make an impact, but I think you've got to
give credit to the way that England also played and
perhaps another five what he was trying to do during
those test matches. But I like the idea of him
(04:24):
adding impact. And you know the All Blacks are still
searching for those answers in terms of the makeup of
the bench and how that exactly rolls. Yes, South Africa
it's got the much vaunted bomb squad. I think you've
got Robertson and Selected still tinkering there. But I do
think there is a spot open for a bench forward
like a Samipenny, Feenw Luke Jacobson obviously in the mix
(04:44):
as well. Sam Kaynes filled that role, so a big
chance with Sam penni Fenw this week. We know how
dangerous he can be with ball in hand, but also
those big hits coming on late in the game, and
no doubt both he and Blackadder and the rest of
the All Blacks that were targeting the youngster for South
Africa and the ten jersey Sasha Feinberg in Gomozolu. You
(05:06):
know that, you know what females done in super rugby.
When he can target the the first five of the
playmakers and shut them down time in space, that'll be
vital in this weekend's match.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Right, Okay, the coaching sort of duel raises being you know,
had lots of praise for Rassi and you know, and
as he said, he does make you think, and that's
got to be a good thing. I mean, we can't
top our heads in the sand forever.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
No exactly, and I think we were adding rugby at
the moment. Hay Mish, I'm not sure if you agree
or not. You tricked to hear your view on this,
but I think rugby has become rather predictable at the
test level. There's so little time in space afford it
because the defensive systems are so good. So when you
do have coaches thinking outside the box, you know, seven
to one bench, who would have thought that, you know,
(05:53):
in Sasal team to be brave enough to do that.
You know some of Scott Robertson and the things that
he did the Crusaders, you know, all these sort of
things that Rassi does, the but the light, the lit
up buttons and the coach's box and the various ways
that he gets this team going. I really like it.
I think International Araby could do with a lot more
innovation in it. I know, white so homogenized and sort
(06:14):
of you know, Philly, not bland necessarily, but it's fairly predictable.
The more ideas from outside the box, I think we're
going to welcome them.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, stole my word, Elliot innovation. I love it. I
love it, you know. And when I spoke to Bobby
Skinstad yesterday and he talked to me about no fact
de collect no honderi Pollard, he said, don't matter. You know,
he's believe me. I promise you the way that'll be
slightly different, but we won't lose anything. So I mean,
I'm quite you know, that's quite scary to hear that too,
because when people a lot of talk about a sort
(06:44):
of a semi B team that beat the Wallabies, but
they've got they've got true depth.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Haven't the Mayde the Box, Oh, they do absolutely. And
Russia Rasmus and his predecessor jag Needyburg did quite a
good job I think in building that depth over the
last couple of years, even building into that World Cup campaign.
Players there that sort of came off of the bench previously,
Jasper Visa being one behind Dwayne van Mullen for so long,
a number of other players copas Rynarch starting I mean,
(07:10):
he's thirty four, but he's been behind Fuff to Clerk
for for a long time now. Grant Williams have really
done well at building depth. You look through this box
Cheam chart though, and a lot of them are sort
of thirty three thirty four and likely to make the
next World Cup. But they've got those players that are
coming through that have had the old test experience here
and there over the last couple of seasons, and now
(07:31):
is their time to sort of become the first choice player.
So incredible depth have've got at the moment the spring
Boxer it really is that they can call on those
sort of players you know with Fuffer, Clerk and Coed,
and they can have a bloke like Andndre Pollard come
off the bench. Quite remarkable.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It is indeed three am our time, Sunday morning. How
excited do you get out of I mean, this is
a pretty special game. I mean a World Cup final
might nudget, but it's right up there.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh absolutely, Alie Park all the ingredients to that, some
of the scenes of the place, some of the great
rugby matches that are in play between these two nations.
So incredibly excited to call the game and see it
unfold of her magnificent things about Alice Park. A couple
of my colleagues have managed to get out there this week.
I haven't managed to actually cite it myself as yet,
(08:17):
hoping to do that early tomorrow morning. But the things
I hear about Alice Park, I am looking forward to
what should be a fantastic occasion. And look, let's just
hope it's a fantastic Test match as well.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
And Elliott I was lucky enough to call a couple
of matches over there, particular one I remember from the
old Newlands down in Cape Town. But what you'll be
doing at three am on Sunday morning is an honor
that you have earned. And I love the excitement and
the passion and your voice that you bring to the game,
so you have a bloody good commentary and hopefully the
right result as well.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, let's hope. So I appreciate that. Thanks Amish cheers.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That is our commentator, Elliott Smith, live from Johannesburg. There.
He'll be there Sunday morning at three am. Looking forward
to his call of the game. Is Country Sport, Breakfast,
Gold Sport Harbers mccaud. I've been in the saddle this
week for b K. I've thoroughly enjoyed the last three days.
It's been just wonderful to have your company
Right.
Speaker 2 (00:00):
Oh, let's go to Johannesburg, up on to the high Veldt,
where a commentator for Sunday Morning's game, Elliott Smith is Elliott,
how are you doing over there? You're affected by the
altitude or is it something that doesn't bother anybody anymore?
Speaker 1 (00:17):
Oh, Hamish, I'll be honest with you. This is my
first time in Johannesburg, and I've had a couple of
bleeding noses from the altitude over the last few days. Yeah,
and I am prone to a nosebley here and there,
but the altitude has got to me the years, a
little bit thinner, the throat gets a little bit dryer.
But I'm a pretty good company. I'm assured that one
(00:39):
of the All Blacks I one't name who, but has
also been copping some nosebleeds as soon as they landed
in Johannesburg. So I'm in a good company there. But
otherwise enjoying it.
Speaker 2 (00:49):
Yeah. And some people have sort of talked about it
being a bit of a myth from the past, you know,
it was a really one of those easy go to
files to do a story on. But clearly it's not
because I know I felt, you know, I'm a bit
of an asthmatic, and you know since day dot and
so yeah, it is a different space to be in,
isn't it.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It really is. And look when you consider a lot
of these players or some of them, haven't been to
South Africa before full stop playing rugby with no South
African teams in Super Rugby anymore. And the ones that
are still or have had that previous experience haven't been
here for a couple of years and only really come
every couple of years now since South Africa left Super
(01:28):
Rugby and the changes to the Rugby Championship around the
scheduling there, it is different. It is different when you
arrivee there is a different feeling. But so in the
back end of this game, come Sunday morning in New
Zealand time, you know, sixty seventy minutes, that's when the
lungs will really start burning and the All Blacks will
have to try and find ways to put it out
of their minds and keep putting their heads down and
(01:50):
getting into those rucks and bulls and all those dark
places and trying to get a result.
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yeah, so we've got the right team to get that result.
Happy with the side, Yeah, luck.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
I quite like Hey Masho. I think look at both
of the changes injury and forced or injury related. With
the return of Scott Barrett in the second row, I
think he instantly adds plenty to that second row. Sam
Darry has done a fine job last couple of weeks,
but having a captain back in the line out marshal
that Scott Barrett is I think is exceptional to have
(02:21):
him back in the mix flour this Test match. Tupo
Bay is really really growing. I think is a Test
match footballer as well. They called the lineouts over the
last couple of weeks really liking what he's done, So
I think it's a boost having Scott Barrett back. Then
your eyes go to the open side flank and Sam
Kaine now Dolden Papalletti with a thumb injury. But I
think it would have been a close cool regardless between
(02:43):
these two. And I just think the edge that Sam
Kaine brings that the physicality is going to be vital
in this Test match. We know how good he was
in that quarter final against Ireland last year in a
similar type of Test match. Obviously the final was one
that he wants to forget. Given the recard in that match.
(03:04):
But you know, if he can play that sort of
way did against Iiland in the quarter final, he'll go
a long way to helping the All Blacks win this game.
So otherwise, I think you look at that team and
go Scott Robertson and his selectors have got a fairly
settled run on fifteen. There's a few tweaks to the
bench or with Sam Penny Fenale there this week, but
I think by and large they've found there first fifteen
(03:25):
and they're willing to back it to the Hilton and
to get the result this weekend.
Speaker 2 (03:30):
Great point you make about Sam Kaine in the quarter final,
and I also go back to what I thought was
a full front all the bottomy moment from Steve Hanson
when he left him out of the twenty nineteen semi
final against England. I think he's gonna you know, it's
always hard been the next guy after Richie McCaul, but
I think the history will tell us Sam Kaine has
been a wonderful All Black open side flanker, so I'm
(03:50):
quite happy to see him get that. Not much cover
on the bench, so I guess when a summer penny
female is and what I guess we'll see could see
Blackadder break where a lot of people think he might
be best suited number seven.
Speaker 1 (04:04):
Yeah, that's right. Yeah, we'll get some game time, I'm
sure for Sema Penny female late in the game, and
I think it's interesting to see what role he might play.
Obviously play those first two tests against England struggled to
really make an impact, but I think you've got to
give credit to the way that England also played and
perhaps another five what he was trying to do during
those test matches. But I like the idea of him
(04:24):
adding impact. And you know the All Blacks are still
searching for those answers in terms of the makeup of
the bench and how that exactly rolls. Yes, South Africa
it's got the much vaunted bomb squad. I think you've
got Robertson and Selected still tinkering there. But I do
think there is a spot open for a bench forward
like a Samipenny, Feenw Luke Jacobson obviously in the mix
(04:44):
as well. Sam Kaynes filled that role, so a big
chance with Sam penni Fenw this week. We know how
dangerous he can be with ball in hand, but also
those big hits coming on late in the game, and
no doubt both he and Blackadder and the rest of
the All Blacks that were targeting the youngster for South
Africa and the ten jersey Sasha Feinberg in Gomozolu. You
(05:06):
know that, you know what females done in super rugby.
When he can target the the first five of the
playmakers and shut them down time in space, that'll be
vital in this weekend's match.
Speaker 2 (05:17):
Right, Okay, the coaching sort of duel raises being you know,
had lots of praise for Rassi and you know, and
as he said, he does make you think, and that's
got to be a good thing. I mean, we can't
top our heads in the sand forever.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
No exactly, and I think we were adding rugby at
the moment. Hay Mish, I'm not sure if you agree
or not. You tricked to hear your view on this,
but I think rugby has become rather predictable at the
test level. There's so little time in space afford it
because the defensive systems are so good. So when you
do have coaches thinking outside the box, you know, seven
to one bench, who would have thought that, you know,
(05:53):
in Sasal team to be brave enough to do that.
You know some of Scott Robertson and the things that
he did the Crusaders, you know, all these sort of
things that Rassi does, the but the light, the lit
up buttons and the coach's box and the various ways
that he gets this team going. I really like it.
I think International Araby could do with a lot more
innovation in it. I know, white so homogenized and sort
(06:14):
of you know, Philly, not bland necessarily, but it's fairly predictable.
The more ideas from outside the box, I think we're
going to welcome them.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yes, stole my word, Elliot innovation. I love it. I
love it, you know. And when I spoke to Bobby
Skinstad yesterday and he talked to me about no fact
de collect no honderi Pollard, he said, don't matter. You know,
he's believe me. I promise you the way that'll be
slightly different, but we won't lose anything. So I mean,
I'm quite you know, that's quite scary to hear that too,
because when people a lot of talk about a sort
(06:44):
of a semi B team that beat the Wallabies, but
they've got they've got true depth.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Haven't the Mayde the Box, Oh, they do absolutely. And
Russia Rasmus and his predecessor jag Needyburg did quite a
good job I think in building that depth over the
last couple of years, even building into that World Cup campaign.
Players there that sort of came off of the bench previously,
Jasper Visa being one behind Dwayne van Mullen for so long,
a number of other players copas Rynarch starting I mean,
(07:10):
he's thirty four, but he's been behind Fuff to Clerk
for for a long time now. Grant Williams have really
done well at building depth. You look through this box
Cheam chart though, and a lot of them are sort
of thirty three thirty four and likely to make the
next World Cup. But they've got those players that are
coming through that have had the old test experience here
and there over the last couple of seasons, and now
(07:31):
is their time to sort of become the first choice player.
So incredible depth have've got at the moment the spring
Boxer it really is that they can call on those
sort of players you know with Fuffer, Clerk and Coed,
and they can have a bloke like Andndre Pollard come
off the bench. Quite remarkable.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
It is indeed three am our time, Sunday morning. How
excited do you get out of I mean, this is
a pretty special game. I mean a World Cup final
might nudget, but it's right up there.
Speaker 1 (07:56):
Oh absolutely, Alie Park all the ingredients to that, some
of the scenes of the place, some of the great
rugby matches that are in play between these two nations.
So incredibly excited to call the game and see it
unfold of her magnificent things about Alice Park. A couple
of my colleagues have managed to get out there this week.
I haven't managed to actually cite it myself as yet,
(08:17):
hoping to do that early tomorrow morning. But the things
I hear about Alice Park, I am looking forward to
what should be a fantastic occasion. And look, let's just
hope it's a fantastic Test match as well.
Speaker 2 (08:27):
And Elliott I was lucky enough to call a couple
of matches over there, particular one I remember from the
old Newlands down in Cape Town. But what you'll be
doing at three am on Sunday morning is an honor
that you have earned. And I love the excitement and
the passion and your voice that you bring to the game,
so you have a bloody good commentary and hopefully the
right result as well.
Speaker 1 (08:46):
Yeah, let's hope. So I appreciate that. Thanks Amish cheers.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That is our commentator, Elliott Smith, live from Johannesburg. There.
He'll be there Sunday morning at three am. Looking forward
to his call of the game. Is Country Sport, Breakfast,
Gold Sport Harbers mccaud. I've been in the saddle this
week for b K. I've thoroughly enjoyed the last three days.
It's been just wonderful to have your company
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