September 5, 2024 • 9 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
International rugby coverage on the country.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Sport Breakfast is proudly brought to you by Access Solutions,
elevating you and your business to a higher level.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Well, the All Blacks have made bold and injury forced
calls for the Rugby Championship rematch against South Africa on
Sunday morning. New Zealand Time. Ethan Blackadder, Caleb Clark Arb
You arguably two of the team's best last week are
out with injuries and it means a shock call up
for Wallace a Tediat blindside flanker, while Mark Taleas start
on the left wing and Sevie Reese on the right.
(00:31):
Will Jordan gets the nine at fallback with Bowden Barrett
coming off the bench and Courtez Ratima starts at half back,
meaning TJ. Perrinara on the bench as well joining us
on the CSB this morning. You see what he makes
of all the changes for the All Blacks, Elliot Smith Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Elliott yell a beek Hey, good to catch up.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
What do you make of all those changes that the
selectors and Scott Robinson have made.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, it's to a surprising look. I don't think many
would have expected that team to be named when it
came out Thursday afternoon back home. But you look at
it and the more you look at it and you go, actually,
there's a lot to that team and a lot of tweaks,
and while there's some tweaks there, they're considered tweaks. Obviously
the injury changes you mentioned there with Caleb Clarke and
Eas and Blackhead are not there, but they've gone to
(01:19):
will Jordan fall Back and Wallace at tet blindside flanker.
I think a little bit of an eye to the
future there with the All Black team, and then added
some experience to the bench as well, TJ Pedt and
Ara and Bowden Barraff, and I think you look at
that Test match last week, it was the last twenty
where things fell away. I thought first hour was very,
very good from an All Blacks perspective, had four tries
(01:40):
on the board against the world champion, So shoring up
that last twenty minutes while also adding a bit to
the first hour, I mean it looks good on paper,
beach how well we'll find out how it goes Sunday morning,
your time back home. But I think there are exciting
changes and look, we'll see how it works. But I
think you know, there needed to be some tweaks. I
didn't expect as many as this, but I think they're
exciting ones that the All Blacks coaching staff have made.
(02:03):
You know, they've got the ball carrying ability of Wallace
a Titi on the blind side flank. I think that's
been needed for a little better. I was advocating, not
that anyone takes any notice, of course, but I was
advocating perhaps a Addie Savia at open side and Wallace
a tt at eight. But they've managed to get sets
in on the blind so flank where he's played a
couple of times full North Harbor not so much for
(02:24):
the Chiefs in recent times. And then you had Will Jordan,
a player that Scott Robinson's worked well with a crusader's
level at full backs of a recent combination on the
wing as well. So I look at that team and go, well,
they could have rolled out the same team and tried
to improve that last twenty minutes, but they've tweaked a
little bit. And even if they don't win this weekend,
and obviously we hope that they will get the job done,
(02:46):
they've rolled the dice and we're going to see a
lot about these younger players in a pressure cooker environment
to see how they get on.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Courtez Ratima, the young Wyko halfback comes and he gets
his biggest start in the ABS. Jersey is the run
on half back. Are you surprised by that selection of
putting TJ Perrinhara on the bench?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, I am a little bit surprised. I thought that's
stick with TJ for this week. He feels very much
like a little bit of a holding pattern to be
honest with you, until camroy Guard comes back in. But
I think with you, look at TJ Peinara. He started
seventy five percent of his test matches off the bench.
He was behind Aaron Smith for the majority of his
Test match career and in the latter stages that have
(03:26):
gone to him and asked, hey, can you start writing
the twilight of your career? He's done a reasonable job.
I had an off night in Wellington, of course, but
I thought last couple of tests he wasn't too bad.
But you're moving him away from the role he's had
for the majority of his test career. Right as he
winds down his test career, Courtez Ratima is the future.
You put him out there for fifty minutes or so
fifty five and then TJ's your insurance policy to close
(03:49):
out the match at the end. It's a role he's very,
very familiar with. I love the way that courtiez Ratima
can attack. He can snipe around the ruck, he can
pass his passes very very quick off the base of
the ruck. So I think that's a really interesting change
because to me it signals a changing of the guard.
I think at half back it's hard to see t J.
Pattanara get too many more test starts at half back
(04:09):
in this closing stage of his career which is going
to end before the season's out.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And Will Jordan making just his second start at fullback.
It's quite a big call, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It is a big call, absolutely, And you look at
the All Black side and for so many years they've
run that dual pivot role. I know he had the
start of course last year and the Bledislow ended even
but it was very experimental with the night of the
World Cup, impossible combinations there. But you look at the
way that this is set up. It's very much away
from the ten and fifteen axis that the All Blacks
(04:42):
have gone with in terms of having that double playmaker
role right back through to twenty nineteen Richie Wonger, Bowden
Barrett and latterally Damien McKenzie Boden Barrett or Richie Wonger
and Damian McKenzie. So it is a move away from that.
Will Jordan can't slot it into pivot. So the big
test is going to be around his kicking game and
also his defense comes Sunday morning, around whether he can
(05:02):
kick it with the best and get the All Blacks
out of trouble and they need to be put them
in position. He's done it very very well for the
Crusaders at Super rugby level, that's why Scott Robinson trust him.
But at Test level, different beast and that all eyes
will be on him to step up and deliver and
and you know he's coverted this role for a number
of seasons. Now he finally gets his opportunity in a
really big Test match and similar to Wallace a t eat,
(05:25):
I guess if you don't know, if you don't if
you don't try, you won't find out. So that's what
they're doing this weekend, you know, in a big Test
environment and depending on how it goes, it feels very
much like potentially a changing of the guard with this
All Blacks team.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
If the All Blacks are going to win the Test,
what do they need to do?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Elliott, Well, they need to be alert for the final
twenty minutes first and foremost, and hope they're right in
the game at that sixty minute mark as they were
last week in Johannesburg. They're right there and head control
of the game, but let things slip. They need to
get that right this week, close out the game and
play it tactically right. A couple of decisions last week
(06:02):
and they didn't quite get into the right areas of
the park. They made some errors and when they were
in that area of the park, you know, look back now,
maybe they should have taken the three points. It wouldn't
have put them out beyond fourteen, but it would have
just kept that scoreboard pressure and lifted it a little
bit more on South Africa. So they've got to try
and do that a bit better this week. Discipline a
big one for them this week. Fourteen penaries. They concede
(06:24):
it at Alice Park. They can't afford to concede double
digit penalty accounts because if you concede that they're more
often than not you're going to be on the wrong
side of the ledger as they were last week, so
their discipline needs to be better this week. They considered
too many penalies and kickable positions for the southaga and
ten last week Sasha Fineberg in Gonmozulu. This week it's
(06:44):
Andre Pollard who is just as equally a good goal
kickers as Fineberg and got Mizulu. So they need to
be better on the discipline front this week. But you
take that for sixty of last week. If they can
build on that this week in Cape down at sea
level sea level as well BK, then they're with opportunity
to come away from South Africa with a winner and
loss from this tour.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
We're talking about the spring box racie. Erasmus has made
seven changes. Quite a few actually. The squad features nineteen
Rugby World Cup winners in total. So what are you
made of his changes in his side?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, bit of a surprise, I mean, first and foremost
seeing si Klisi there wasn't expecting that after he marched
into the media conference after the game Saturday night last
week and looked like his face that sort of drooped
down one side with the facial fracture. But hearing from
him earlier today our time here in Capetown, he was
talking about it's a nose fracture and well they can't
actually get too much worse. He's going to have to
(07:35):
get it reset at some point, but they reckon if
he can play through this weekend, they can get it
reset next week. So major boost for the South Africans
to have see Ecalisi and this captaincy in the team.
A little surprise that changed out their harvest combination. Very
much feels like as we touched on there, Feinberg and
Gonemezoulu is the future for South Africa and they've gone
(07:56):
back to the pass with Andre Pollard, who was a
very good footballer, but he's been around for a decade.
So it feels like the Springwalks have opted for a
little bit more experience this week while the All Blacks
in their starting site, well the All Blacks have actually
flipped at the other side and gone for a little
bit of youth, which is very very interesting when you
see that. You know Willie LaRue coming back into South
Africa as well. So to me, they're gone for the
experience trying to shore up that victory. The other one
(08:18):
for South Africa the five to three bench they've gone
forward too, So that's fascinating to see that they've decided
to flip things around. And I thought that this week
they might go the seven one instead of have gone
back traditionally to the five to three. So it's a
conservative a selection, I think from South Africa. But these
players have been there and done the job before, and
(08:39):
Russia Rasmus backing them to get the victory again.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
The tab here in New Zealand we've got South Africa
is the favorites paying a dollar fifty five to win,
with the All Blacks are two thirty five. Who do
you think is going to win it? On Sunday Morning,
New Zealand Time.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Elliott, Look, I think the All Blacks will win it.
I think there's a determination to right the wrongs. Last
week in Cape Town, sorry from Johannesburg to Cape Town.
They were very good for the first hour, you know,
and then just fell away in the last twenty minutes.
I'm sure they won't let that happen again. I like
this team. I think it's a real eye of the future.
But you've got some experience on the bench there that
(09:14):
can close this game out in the final thirty. So
if the All Blacks can play, is it for the
first sixty last week right for the full lady. I
think they get the victory and they leave South Africa
with a one win, one lost record and all honesty BCF.
They're able to do that, and that's what Island did
in July the South Africa the World champions. I think
it's a pretty good return. But if they don't get
(09:35):
their discipline right and they don't get their tactical cricking right,
and they do fall away in the last twenty, then
there'll be two and oh from sorry oh to two
from a South African league.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Fantastic, Elliot, have a good call on Sunday morning here
on gold Sport and go and enjoy that cold beer.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Cheers. BK can't wait, Elliot, it's both
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Joining us out of Cape Town in South Africa.
International rugby coverage on the country.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Sport Breakfast is proudly brought to you by Access Solutions,
elevating you and your business to a higher level.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Well, the All Blacks have made bold and injury forced
calls for the Rugby Championship rematch against South Africa on
Sunday morning. New Zealand Time. Ethan Blackadder, Caleb Clark Arb
You arguably two of the team's best last week are
out with injuries and it means a shock call up
for Wallace a Tediat blindside flanker, while Mark Taleas start
on the left wing and Sevie Reese on the right.
(00:31):
Will Jordan gets the nine at fallback with Bowden Barrett
coming off the bench and Courtez Ratima starts at half back,
meaning TJ. Perrinara on the bench as well joining us
on the CSB this morning. You see what he makes
of all the changes for the All Blacks, Elliot Smith Morning.
Speaker 2 (00:47):
Elliott yell a beek Hey, good to catch up.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
What do you make of all those changes that the
selectors and Scott Robinson have made.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Well, it's to a surprising look. I don't think many
would have expected that team to be named when it
came out Thursday afternoon back home. But you look at
it and the more you look at it and you go, actually,
there's a lot to that team and a lot of tweaks,
and while there's some tweaks there, they're considered tweaks. Obviously
the injury changes you mentioned there with Caleb Clarke and
Eas and Blackhead are not there, but they've gone to
(01:19):
will Jordan fall Back and Wallace at tet blindside flanker.
I think a little bit of an eye to the
future there with the All Black team, and then added
some experience to the bench as well, TJ Pedt and
Ara and Bowden Barraff, and I think you look at
that Test match last week, it was the last twenty
where things fell away. I thought first hour was very,
very good from an All Blacks perspective, had four tries
(01:40):
on the board against the world champion, So shoring up
that last twenty minutes while also adding a bit to
the first hour, I mean it looks good on paper,
beach how well we'll find out how it goes Sunday morning,
your time back home. But I think there are exciting
changes and look, we'll see how it works. But I
think you know, there needed to be some tweaks. I
didn't expect as many as this, but I think they're
exciting ones that the All Blacks coaching staff have made.
(02:03):
You know, they've got the ball carrying ability of Wallace
a Titi on the blind side flank. I think that's
been needed for a little better. I was advocating, not
that anyone takes any notice, of course, but I was
advocating perhaps a Addie Savia at open side and Wallace
a tt at eight. But they've managed to get sets
in on the blind so flank where he's played a
couple of times full North Harbor not so much for
(02:24):
the Chiefs in recent times. And then you had Will Jordan,
a player that Scott Robinson's worked well with a crusader's
level at full backs of a recent combination on the
wing as well. So I look at that team and go, well,
they could have rolled out the same team and tried
to improve that last twenty minutes, but they've tweaked a
little bit. And even if they don't win this weekend,
and obviously we hope that they will get the job done,
(02:46):
they've rolled the dice and we're going to see a
lot about these younger players in a pressure cooker environment
to see how they get on.
Speaker 1 (02:53):
Courtez Ratima, the young Wyko halfback comes and he gets
his biggest start in the ABS. Jersey is the run
on half back. Are you surprised by that selection of
putting TJ Perrinhara on the bench?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Yeah, I am a little bit surprised. I thought that's
stick with TJ for this week. He feels very much
like a little bit of a holding pattern to be
honest with you, until camroy Guard comes back in. But
I think with you, look at TJ Peinara. He started
seventy five percent of his test matches off the bench.
He was behind Aaron Smith for the majority of his
Test match career and in the latter stages that have
(03:26):
gone to him and asked, hey, can you start writing
the twilight of your career? He's done a reasonable job.
I had an off night in Wellington, of course, but
I thought last couple of tests he wasn't too bad.
But you're moving him away from the role he's had
for the majority of his test career. Right as he
winds down his test career, Courtez Ratima is the future.
You put him out there for fifty minutes or so
fifty five and then TJ's your insurance policy to close
(03:49):
out the match at the end. It's a role he's very,
very familiar with. I love the way that courtiez Ratima
can attack. He can snipe around the ruck, he can
pass his passes very very quick off the base of
the ruck. So I think that's a really interesting change
because to me it signals a changing of the guard.
I think at half back it's hard to see t J.
Pattanara get too many more test starts at half back
(04:09):
in this closing stage of his career which is going
to end before the season's out.
Speaker 1 (04:13):
And Will Jordan making just his second start at fullback.
It's quite a big call, isn't it.
Speaker 2 (04:19):
It is a big call, absolutely, And you look at
the All Black side and for so many years they've
run that dual pivot role. I know he had the
start of course last year and the Bledislow ended even
but it was very experimental with the night of the
World Cup, impossible combinations there. But you look at the
way that this is set up. It's very much away
from the ten and fifteen axis that the All Blacks
(04:42):
have gone with in terms of having that double playmaker
role right back through to twenty nineteen Richie Wonger, Bowden
Barrett and latterally Damien McKenzie Boden Barrett or Richie Wonger
and Damian McKenzie. So it is a move away from that.
Will Jordan can't slot it into pivot. So the big
test is going to be around his kicking game and
also his defense comes Sunday morning, around whether he can
(05:02):
kick it with the best and get the All Blacks
out of trouble and they need to be put them
in position. He's done it very very well for the
Crusaders at Super rugby level, that's why Scott Robinson trust him.
But at Test level, different beast and that all eyes
will be on him to step up and deliver and
and you know he's coverted this role for a number
of seasons. Now he finally gets his opportunity in a
really big Test match and similar to Wallace a t eat,
(05:25):
I guess if you don't know, if you don't if
you don't try, you won't find out. So that's what
they're doing this weekend, you know, in a big Test
environment and depending on how it goes, it feels very
much like potentially a changing of the guard with this
All Blacks team.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
If the All Blacks are going to win the Test,
what do they need to do?
Speaker 2 (05:41):
Elliott, Well, they need to be alert for the final
twenty minutes first and foremost, and hope they're right in
the game at that sixty minute mark as they were
last week in Johannesburg. They're right there and head control
of the game, but let things slip. They need to
get that right this week, close out the game and
play it tactically right. A couple of decisions last week
(06:02):
and they didn't quite get into the right areas of
the park. They made some errors and when they were
in that area of the park, you know, look back now,
maybe they should have taken the three points. It wouldn't
have put them out beyond fourteen, but it would have
just kept that scoreboard pressure and lifted it a little
bit more on South Africa. So they've got to try
and do that a bit better this week. Discipline a
big one for them this week. Fourteen penaries. They concede
(06:24):
it at Alice Park. They can't afford to concede double
digit penalty accounts because if you concede that they're more
often than not you're going to be on the wrong
side of the ledger as they were last week, so
their discipline needs to be better this week. They considered
too many penalies and kickable positions for the southaga and
ten last week Sasha Fineberg in Gonmozulu. This week it's
(06:44):
Andre Pollard who is just as equally a good goal
kickers as Fineberg and got Mizulu. So they need to
be better on the discipline front this week. But you
take that for sixty of last week. If they can
build on that this week in Cape down at sea
level sea level as well BK, then they're with opportunity
to come away from South Africa with a winner and
loss from this tour.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
We're talking about the spring box racie. Erasmus has made
seven changes. Quite a few actually. The squad features nineteen
Rugby World Cup winners in total. So what are you
made of his changes in his side?
Speaker 2 (07:15):
Yeah, bit of a surprise, I mean, first and foremost
seeing si Klisi there wasn't expecting that after he marched
into the media conference after the game Saturday night last
week and looked like his face that sort of drooped
down one side with the facial fracture. But hearing from
him earlier today our time here in Capetown, he was
talking about it's a nose fracture and well they can't
actually get too much worse. He's going to have to
(07:35):
get it reset at some point, but they reckon if
he can play through this weekend, they can get it
reset next week. So major boost for the South Africans
to have see Ecalisi and this captaincy in the team.
A little surprise that changed out their harvest combination. Very
much feels like as we touched on there, Feinberg and
Gonemezoulu is the future for South Africa and they've gone
(07:56):
back to the pass with Andre Pollard, who was a
very good footballer, but he's been around for a decade.
So it feels like the Springwalks have opted for a
little bit more experience this week while the All Blacks
in their starting site, well the All Blacks have actually
flipped at the other side and gone for a little
bit of youth, which is very very interesting when you
see that. You know Willie LaRue coming back into South
Africa as well. So to me, they're gone for the
experience trying to shore up that victory. The other one
(08:18):
for South Africa the five to three bench they've gone
forward too, So that's fascinating to see that they've decided
to flip things around. And I thought that this week
they might go the seven one instead of have gone
back traditionally to the five to three. So it's a
conservative a selection, I think from South Africa. But these
players have been there and done the job before, and
(08:39):
Russia Rasmus backing them to get the victory again.
Speaker 1 (08:42):
The tab here in New Zealand we've got South Africa
is the favorites paying a dollar fifty five to win,
with the All Blacks are two thirty five. Who do
you think is going to win it? On Sunday Morning,
New Zealand Time.
Speaker 2 (08:51):
Elliott, Look, I think the All Blacks will win it.
I think there's a determination to right the wrongs. Last
week in Cape Town, sorry from Johannesburg to Cape Town.
They were very good for the first hour, you know,
and then just fell away in the last twenty minutes.
I'm sure they won't let that happen again. I like
this team. I think it's a real eye of the future.
But you've got some experience on the bench there that
(09:14):
can close this game out in the final thirty. So
if the All Blacks can play, is it for the
first sixty last week right for the full lady. I
think they get the victory and they leave South Africa
with a one win, one lost record and all honesty BCF.
They're able to do that, and that's what Island did
in July the South Africa the World champions. I think
it's a pretty good return. But if they don't get
(09:35):
their discipline right and they don't get their tactical cricking right,
and they do fall away in the last twenty, then
there'll be two and oh from sorry oh to two
from a South African league.
Speaker 1 (09:43):
Fantastic, Elliot, have a good call on Sunday morning here
on gold Sport and go and enjoy that cold beer.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Cheers. BK can't wait, Elliot, it's both
Speaker 1 (09:52):
Joining us out of Cape Town in South Africa.
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