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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is the Country Sport Breakfast with Brian Kelly on
gold Sport.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Senior political reporter and news toog ZB. Sophie Trigger joins
me this morning morning.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Sophie, Good morning, BK.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
How are you very well? Now let's start with I
think the Gang's Bill. Did that final reading happened? I
think yesterday or last night? Did it go through?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yes, that's correct. So the Gang's Bill has passed its
third reading. So this gives police a range of powers,
including to disperse gatherings. And the one that's got the
most attention, of course, is banning gang patches in public. Now,
the part of this BK that's really garnered a lot
of attention is a last minute addition to the gang
patch ban, which would see it not only banned in public,
(00:40):
but also in the homes of repeat offenders. This means
if a person's convicted of flouting the ban in public
three times in five years, the courts are required to
hand them a gang Insignia Prohibition order, which means there
cannot be any gang insignia at their residence, regardless of
who it belongs to, whether it's theirs or a flat
NX or a friend. And so this is concerned for
(01:01):
the opposition and the law society who say it seems
to be an extraordinary intrusion into someone's private life. But
also they object to the fact the amendment was made
after the bill had already been through Select Committee, meaning
experts in the public couldn't have their say on this
particular part of the bill. So in response, Justice Minister
Paul Goldsmith says the Government makes no apologies for getting
(01:23):
tough on gangs, and he admits it is tough legislation,
but there's an easy way to avoid it. Just don't
fly out the gang patch ban three times in five years.
A new amendment was added because police had concerns about
gang members continually defying the public patch ban and felt
there needed to be a stronger power to use in
those cases.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So that bill's been passed now so that it's coming
to law.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, so it's going to be implemented from November twenty first,
that's when police will be expected to enforce it. Interestingly,
Police Association President Chris has told me it is going
to be an area to tread very carefully, particularly on
that home. Then he says it's going to be confrontational
(02:09):
and intrusive to go into gang members' homes and search them.
And police also, he says, don't have the resources to
be sort of routinely searching gang members homes. So I'm
going to be very interested to see how this all unfolds.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, I think most of the country will, indeed, but
I think well done to the government. They're getting tough
on the gangs, and they promised they would, haven't.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
They Absolutely, they are making good on a promise here.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
All right, let's move on Health commissioner health story that
you've got.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, So this week we heard from Health Commissioner left
the Levy, who up until this point hadn't made himself
particularly available to the media since replacing Health end Zed's
board about two months ago. So you remember he was
put in place of the board due to concerns about
the agency's financial management. So Levi was before the Health
(03:02):
Select Committee on Wednesday and reiterated these financial concerns, saying
one hundred and thirty two hundred and forty million dollar
deficits were being recorded each month and if this wasn't stabilized,
Health end Zed would face a one point four billion
dollar deficit by the end of a financial year. Another
issue that saw Levi under a bit of pressure was
the revelation from the Post this week that he's still
(03:24):
working two days a week at aut while in the
role as Health Commissioner and collecting a salary of three
hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year. So Labour's Iavel,
for example, says he should be far more available and
accountable to the public considering this salary, and leader Chris
Tipkins says being Health Commissioner should be his full time job.
(03:46):
Verel was also pressing both Levi and Health end Zed's
chief executive Marjie Uppa about a high number of non
disclosure agreements signed at Health New Zealand, reported to be
about seventy since November. Says officials were being asked not
to discuss their ideas, which she says is highly highly
unusual in the public sector and likens the practice to
(04:09):
North Korea. So Hubba and Levy had slightly different takes
on this. Leevy was quite firm that he wouldn't ask
senior staff to sign NDA's while Arthur says the practice
is quite normal, although she will be reviewing them. So
it was certainly interesting BK to see that slight difference
of opinion between two such senior figures in our health system.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, he's certainly got his work cut out there, all right.
And the results of political poll.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yes, So we had a poll earlier this week from Taxpayers'
Union Courier showing the gap has widened between the coalition
government and the opposition. So National was on thirty nine percent,
up one point four from the July poll. Acts down
zero point three to eight point eight. New Zealand First
down zero point five to six point eight. Labor meanwhile
(04:57):
polled twenty six point seven, up zero point eight. The
Greens fell one point five to eleven percent, and to
Patimari was up one point five points to five percent.
But some more bad news for Labor. Opposition leader Chris
Hipkins dropped six point one points to twelve point six
in the preferred prime minister poll, while Luxen fell one
(05:19):
point eight to thirty two point seven. Now this did
start the very predictable rumblings of a potential move to
topple Hipkins as Labor leader, especially considering he departed for
the UK this week where he's attending their Labor Party conference.
So ahead of his departure Hipkins insisted he had the
backing of the caucus and his MP's put up quite
(05:41):
a united front when we asked them earlier this week
if there were any plans for a coup while the
leader is away now. There was also a second poll
this week from Talbot Mills obtained by The Herald, which
does show Hipkins sitting at twenty two percent as preferred
prime minister, which is significantly better than twelve point point
six and much closer to Luxon who is at twenty
(06:03):
six as opposed to thirty two, So a slightly different
take in that poll. So it's important to note, BK.
We are two years away from election, so neither of
these polls mean a whole lot at this point in time,
but you could probably expect discussions about Hipkin's position as
Labor leader are probably bound to continue if he and
(06:24):
Labor continue polling sort of below the government.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Like this, Sophie, always good to chat on a Friday.
Have a great weekend and we'll talk again soon.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Fantastic BKU two.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Sophie, trigger the week in politics. Sing you
This is the Country Sport Breakfast with Brian Kelly on
gold Sport.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Senior political reporter and news toog ZB. Sophie Trigger joins
me this morning morning.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Sophie, Good morning, BK.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
How are you very well? Now let's start with I
think the Gang's Bill. Did that final reading happened? I
think yesterday or last night? Did it go through?
Speaker 1 (00:19):
Yes, that's correct. So the Gang's Bill has passed its
third reading. So this gives police a range of powers,
including to disperse gatherings. And the one that's got the
most attention, of course, is banning gang patches in public. Now,
the part of this BK that's really garnered a lot
of attention is a last minute addition to the gang
patch ban, which would see it not only banned in public,
(00:40):
but also in the homes of repeat offenders. This means
if a person's convicted of flouting the ban in public
three times in five years, the courts are required to
hand them a gang Insignia Prohibition order, which means there
cannot be any gang insignia at their residence, regardless of
who it belongs to, whether it's theirs or a flat
NX or a friend. And so this is concerned for
(01:01):
the opposition and the law society who say it seems
to be an extraordinary intrusion into someone's private life. But
also they object to the fact the amendment was made
after the bill had already been through Select Committee, meaning
experts in the public couldn't have their say on this
particular part of the bill. So in response, Justice Minister
Paul Goldsmith says the Government makes no apologies for getting
(01:23):
tough on gangs, and he admits it is tough legislation,
but there's an easy way to avoid it. Just don't
fly out the gang patch ban three times in five years.
A new amendment was added because police had concerns about
gang members continually defying the public patch ban and felt
there needed to be a stronger power to use in
those cases.
Speaker 2 (01:44):
So that bill's been passed now so that it's coming
to law.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Yeah, so it's going to be implemented from November twenty first,
that's when police will be expected to enforce it. Interestingly,
Police Association President Chris has told me it is going
to be an area to tread very carefully, particularly on
that home. Then he says it's going to be confrontational
(02:09):
and intrusive to go into gang members' homes and search them.
And police also, he says, don't have the resources to
be sort of routinely searching gang members homes. So I'm
going to be very interested to see how this all unfolds.
Speaker 2 (02:23):
Yeah, I think most of the country will, indeed, but
I think well done to the government. They're getting tough
on the gangs, and they promised they would, haven't.
Speaker 1 (02:29):
They Absolutely, they are making good on a promise here.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
All right, let's move on Health commissioner health story that
you've got.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
Yeah, So this week we heard from Health Commissioner left
the Levy, who up until this point hadn't made himself
particularly available to the media since replacing Health end Zed's
board about two months ago. So you remember he was
put in place of the board due to concerns about
the agency's financial management. So Levi was before the Health
(03:02):
Select Committee on Wednesday and reiterated these financial concerns, saying
one hundred and thirty two hundred and forty million dollar
deficits were being recorded each month and if this wasn't stabilized,
Health end Zed would face a one point four billion
dollar deficit by the end of a financial year. Another
issue that saw Levi under a bit of pressure was
the revelation from the Post this week that he's still
(03:24):
working two days a week at aut while in the
role as Health Commissioner and collecting a salary of three
hundred and twenty thousand dollars a year. So Labour's Iavel,
for example, says he should be far more available and
accountable to the public considering this salary, and leader Chris
Tipkins says being Health Commissioner should be his full time job.
(03:46):
Verel was also pressing both Levi and Health end Zed's
chief executive Marjie Uppa about a high number of non
disclosure agreements signed at Health New Zealand, reported to be
about seventy since November. Says officials were being asked not
to discuss their ideas, which she says is highly highly
unusual in the public sector and likens the practice to
(04:09):
North Korea. So Hubba and Levy had slightly different takes
on this. Leevy was quite firm that he wouldn't ask
senior staff to sign NDA's while Arthur says the practice
is quite normal, although she will be reviewing them. So
it was certainly interesting BK to see that slight difference
of opinion between two such senior figures in our health system.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, he's certainly got his work cut out there, all right.
And the results of political poll.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Yes, So we had a poll earlier this week from Taxpayers'
Union Courier showing the gap has widened between the coalition
government and the opposition. So National was on thirty nine percent,
up one point four from the July poll. Acts down
zero point three to eight point eight. New Zealand First
down zero point five to six point eight. Labor meanwhile
(04:57):
polled twenty six point seven, up zero point eight. The
Greens fell one point five to eleven percent, and to
Patimari was up one point five points to five percent.
But some more bad news for Labor. Opposition leader Chris
Hipkins dropped six point one points to twelve point six
in the preferred prime minister poll, while Luxen fell one
(05:19):
point eight to thirty two point seven. Now this did
start the very predictable rumblings of a potential move to
topple Hipkins as Labor leader, especially considering he departed for
the UK this week where he's attending their Labor Party conference.
So ahead of his departure Hipkins insisted he had the
backing of the caucus and his MP's put up quite
(05:41):
a united front when we asked them earlier this week
if there were any plans for a coup while the
leader is away now. There was also a second poll
this week from Talbot Mills obtained by The Herald, which
does show Hipkins sitting at twenty two percent as preferred
prime minister, which is significantly better than twelve point point
six and much closer to Luxon who is at twenty
(06:03):
six as opposed to thirty two, So a slightly different
take in that poll. So it's important to note, BK.
We are two years away from election, so neither of
these polls mean a whole lot at this point in time,
but you could probably expect discussions about Hipkin's position as
Labor leader are probably bound to continue if he and
(06:24):
Labor continue polling sort of below the government.
Speaker 2 (06:27):
Like this, Sophie, always good to chat on a Friday.
Have a great weekend and we'll talk again soon.
Speaker 1 (06:32):
Fantastic BKU two.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
Sophie, trigger the week in politics. Sing you
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