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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yeah. International rugby coverage on the Country Sport Breakfast is
proudly brought to you by Access Solutions, elevating you and
your business to a higher level. Twenty one away from
eight here on the Country Sport Breakfast. Gregor Paul is
one of New Zealand's most respected rugby writers. We had
him in Sydney with the Gold Sport team last Saturday,
(00:21):
sitting high up watching the rugby action unfold at home
Bush Stadium. Gregor joins us this morning morning, Gregor, good morning.
You had a bird's eye view of that game. Boy,
how are they the last few minutes?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, okay, what if you're in New Zealand. Though they
were pretty tense, I would have thought, hello, it's a
crazy game, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Because of that crazy game?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, twenty minutes into our commentary is kind of like jeepers.
This has got a record score written all over the
New Zealand score one more here and got twenty eight
noer up, which they were threatening to. You had a
feeling that was going to be nightmare time for Australia.
And there we were at the end going well, you know,
in New Zealand, clicking on here and if there's going
(01:02):
to be a winner. It's going to be the Wallabies
in the final minute. But they couldn't quite get there
in a way.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
They definitely won the second half, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well not in a way, I mean they did well. Yeah,
And I mean maybe pick up a newspaper at the
moment or listen to anything about rugby. This this whole
issue around the Old Lecks, isn't it, And their inability
to close out games that they've started well and there
and they haven't scored points from the final quarter in
(01:32):
the Rugby Championship yet. It's a huge issue for them
if you think back to just the importance in at
the moment of not being able to do it. But
if you think back to historically it's almost been a
real strength of the Old Lecks to come flying home.
You know, they're never beaten. They can score tries from anywhere,
their fitness is great, their ability to play in those
(01:53):
kent moments makes them you know, fits them apart from
everyone else. And here they are now. They were different
team in the final twenty minutes. They were a schoolboy
team almost with the level of mistakes that they made,
the lack of strategy there was no sense of that
team knowing where it was going in that final period.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
You write an article in the Herald during the week
about the refereeing and the inconsistencies that need to be
addressed regarding that game. What did you mean by that?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, I could do with the timing. I mean it
sounds like a pedantic point and quite boring, but it's
not because there were three different clocks in operation during
that game. So there was a stadium clock, there was
a clock on the broadcaster in Australia on stand TV,
and it turned out underknown to me, SkyTV had a
different clock on their screen, So if you're watching the game,
(02:42):
you might if you're in Australia or if you're in
the stadium. We thought there was more than two minutes
left to play when Australia scored, because that's what the
clock fit by. In New Zealand, it was less than
a minute or roughly a minute left to play. Well,
who's in charge of the time and does the referee
know how much time is left? Because you get to
the point where you know, guys can waste time and
(03:04):
it seems like, well there's plenty of that left. So
that's Okay, they'll get to manage it that way, but
I think you're going to You're gotta have a small
arbiter of time, and it's going to be a universal clock.
So if you're watching anywhere of the world, you've got
the same sense of drama playing at I.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Would have thought the referee, with his fancy stopwatch on
his hand on the risk would have would have been
in charge of the time.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well apparently he is. But here's a crazy thing. We
live in this crazily digital world. Don't we worry. Anything
seems possible on a phone or whatever. But apparently it's
too expensive for too difficult to set up a universal
integrated system where the referees stopwatch links directly to one
clock and that one clock is shared across you know,
(03:48):
stadium scoreboard and all broadcasters. Apparently that's too hard to do,
or perhaps it's too expensive to do and they don't
want to. But they really need to get that cleaned
up because it's a big issue. Because my point was
that New Zealand after Australia scored, when you're in the stadium,
New Zealand stayed under the post rather than getting up
to halfway to restart. The game, and they stayed for
(04:10):
an inordinately long time and they wasted time getting the
ball back into play deliberately. And if you think back
to a couple of years ago when the Wallabyes did
something similar where they were taking an age to kick
the ball out from a penalty and the referee blew
his top ands that actually, I've had enough actual scrub
to New Zealand. I thought the All Blacks were on
the cast there of the referee turn ride and got no,
(04:31):
you've taken too long. I've asked you twice to get
on with it. I haven't done it. And I'll see
Australia that would have been interesting and if you're a
Wallaby or Australia you'd be going, well, yeah, it's also
be safe. Give him a hand glass.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, very very good point. Indeed. All right, Well today Levin,
the squad gets named and the big big question, the
headliner is Damien McKenzie. Will he be wearing the number
teen jersey.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I don't think he will be. And I know everyone's
going to go, oh, well, you know he's been dropped.
I don't think that's what's going on here. I think
there was always a plan at some stage in the year.
He started every game. They've invested in him, but though
there's a truth to the fact that they need to
develop or have another option who's had a bit of
game time in the Jersey because're off to Europe. What
(05:18):
if mckensey breaks his leg and go jeepers. No one's
played number ten other than him, so I think there
was always the plans to play Budden Barrett at number ten.
I think he would have come in and plays off
the You know, he would have played there in the
second half last week if he hadn't been ill. They
would have moved him up from fullback, given him half
an hour and then paved the way to say he's
going to start and Willington, we're going to give Damian
(05:39):
the week off type thing, so it'll look like Damien's
potentially been dropped. I don't think that'll be the scenario.
I'm pretty sure that they're going to pick Budden at ten.
I don't know what they'll do with McKinsey and whether
he'll go on the bench or whether he'll just come
out with the team altogether and have a week off.
But look, he's been an interesting character, Damian because he's
had some magical moments and he's has some catastrophic moments,
(06:02):
and you's a sense that he's not building or developing
the game management or the tactical leadership that they want.
But yes, the magic is there, and can they can
they get them to mature and grow and give them
both sides of what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Interesting this week they've brought in the professor Wyne Smith.
Do you think he'll make a much of a difference
to the team performance?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Ah? Look, you you probably makes a difference to the
coaching group in terms of giving them some advice around
how they're operating. I'm not sure he's going to be
able to come in and wave a magic wands and
you know, say, hey, the reason you haven't been scoring
points in the second half is bump bumbah. I don't
think that will happen. But you know, he's a good
guy to have around. He'll and part from wisdom. He'll
(06:45):
help the coaching group look at how they're coaching. And look,
you've got to be thinking, surely they can't lose another
game in Wellington, and surely they're going to find a
way to score some points in the second half. It
can't keep going on.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Do you think this will be a different old Black
team that runs out onto the park on Saturday and
they'll really sort of put everything to racist say, Hi,
that's the old Blacks of Old.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I don't know we'll quite get into the old old
Blacks of old, because I think they'll be I mean,
we know we're guessing that there's going to be a
change at ten. We know there'll be a change in
the midfield because Jodi Barrett's out. Yeah, there might be
other changes elsewhere, you know, because they've got the Bloder
flow under wraps. This is an opportunity to build the depth,
ay bit, So if you if you make a few changes,
(07:28):
you're going to end up a little bit of continuity problem.
You know, you're going to bid the name blah blah,
or you have a bit of rask all that kind
of stuff. So no, I don't think we will, But
I would like to think that you'll say performance that
they're able to continue what they start through to the
eightieth minute rather than just disappear entirely in the second
half and.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Watch the discipline and don't have guys in the sinburn
That doesn't help, does it?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Nice? And I mean, you know, I could be coaching here, BK.
This is it. We could have a team around us
in the changing room, watching discipline or mucking around. Yeah,
that's a symptom of being under pressure, of not having
confidence on what they're doing, of looking at the doorboard
and feeling it's going away from them. So guys to
make poor decisions when they're under pressure, and then it
(08:12):
becomes compounding. When you're down to fourteen, you know you're
under yet more pressure. And we saw that killed Clark
makes a mistake again. You know, Impulse puts his hand
out another yellow card. You're down to thirteen, and then
you're in you know, playing with thirteen, you like you're
in real trouble at that point.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Absolutely, greg I enjoyed the Test match.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Thank you for your opinion, mate, Well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Gregor Paul joining us here and of course live commentary
of the match. Elliott Elliot Smith will be calling along
with Ross Baond Jason Pine on Saturday evening, kickoff just
after seven o'clock on Gold
Yeah. International rugby coverage on the Country Sport Breakfast is
proudly brought to you by Access Solutions, elevating you and
your business to a higher level. Twenty one away from
eight here on the Country Sport Breakfast. Gregor Paul is
one of New Zealand's most respected rugby writers. We had
him in Sydney with the Gold Sport team last Saturday,
(00:21):
sitting high up watching the rugby action unfold at home
Bush Stadium. Gregor joins us this morning morning, Gregor, good morning.
You had a bird's eye view of that game. Boy,
how are they the last few minutes?
Speaker 2 (00:33):
Well, okay, what if you're in New Zealand. Though they
were pretty tense, I would have thought, hello, it's a
crazy game, wasn't it?
Speaker 1 (00:39):
Because of that crazy game?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Yeah, twenty minutes into our commentary is kind of like jeepers.
This has got a record score written all over the
New Zealand score one more here and got twenty eight
noer up, which they were threatening to. You had a
feeling that was going to be nightmare time for Australia.
And there we were at the end going well, you know,
in New Zealand, clicking on here and if there's going
(01:02):
to be a winner. It's going to be the Wallabies
in the final minute. But they couldn't quite get there
in a way.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
They definitely won the second half, that's for sure.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
Well not in a way, I mean they did well. Yeah,
And I mean maybe pick up a newspaper at the
moment or listen to anything about rugby. This this whole
issue around the Old Lecks, isn't it, And their inability
to close out games that they've started well and there
and they haven't scored points from the final quarter in
(01:32):
the Rugby Championship yet. It's a huge issue for them
if you think back to just the importance in at
the moment of not being able to do it. But
if you think back to historically it's almost been a
real strength of the Old Lecks to come flying home.
You know, they're never beaten. They can score tries from anywhere,
their fitness is great, their ability to play in those
(01:53):
kent moments makes them you know, fits them apart from
everyone else. And here they are now. They were different
team in the final twenty minutes. They were a schoolboy
team almost with the level of mistakes that they made,
the lack of strategy there was no sense of that
team knowing where it was going in that final period.
Speaker 1 (02:12):
You write an article in the Herald during the week
about the refereeing and the inconsistencies that need to be
addressed regarding that game. What did you mean by that?
Speaker 2 (02:21):
Well, I could do with the timing. I mean it
sounds like a pedantic point and quite boring, but it's
not because there were three different clocks in operation during
that game. So there was a stadium clock, there was
a clock on the broadcaster in Australia on stand TV,
and it turned out underknown to me, SkyTV had a
different clock on their screen, So if you're watching the game,
(02:42):
you might if you're in Australia or if you're in
the stadium. We thought there was more than two minutes
left to play when Australia scored, because that's what the
clock fit by. In New Zealand, it was less than
a minute or roughly a minute left to play. Well,
who's in charge of the time and does the referee
know how much time is left? Because you get to
the point where you know, guys can waste time and
(03:04):
it seems like, well there's plenty of that left. So
that's Okay, they'll get to manage it that way, but
I think you're going to You're gotta have a small
arbiter of time, and it's going to be a universal clock.
So if you're watching anywhere of the world, you've got
the same sense of drama playing at I.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
Would have thought the referee, with his fancy stopwatch on
his hand on the risk would have would have been
in charge of the time.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Well apparently he is. But here's a crazy thing. We
live in this crazily digital world. Don't we worry. Anything
seems possible on a phone or whatever. But apparently it's
too expensive for too difficult to set up a universal
integrated system where the referees stopwatch links directly to one
clock and that one clock is shared across you know,
(03:48):
stadium scoreboard and all broadcasters. Apparently that's too hard to do,
or perhaps it's too expensive to do and they don't
want to. But they really need to get that cleaned
up because it's a big issue. Because my point was
that New Zealand after Australia scored, when you're in the stadium,
New Zealand stayed under the post rather than getting up
to halfway to restart. The game, and they stayed for
(04:10):
an inordinately long time and they wasted time getting the
ball back into play deliberately. And if you think back
to a couple of years ago when the Wallabyes did
something similar where they were taking an age to kick
the ball out from a penalty and the referee blew
his top ands that actually, I've had enough actual scrub
to New Zealand. I thought the All Blacks were on
the cast there of the referee turn ride and got no,
(04:31):
you've taken too long. I've asked you twice to get
on with it. I haven't done it. And I'll see
Australia that would have been interesting and if you're a
Wallaby or Australia you'd be going, well, yeah, it's also
be safe. Give him a hand glass.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Yeah, very very good point. Indeed. All right, Well today Levin,
the squad gets named and the big big question, the
headliner is Damien McKenzie. Will he be wearing the number
teen jersey.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
I don't think he will be. And I know everyone's
going to go, oh, well, you know he's been dropped.
I don't think that's what's going on here. I think
there was always a plan at some stage in the year.
He started every game. They've invested in him, but though
there's a truth to the fact that they need to
develop or have another option who's had a bit of
game time in the Jersey because're off to Europe. What
(05:18):
if mckensey breaks his leg and go jeepers. No one's
played number ten other than him, so I think there
was always the plans to play Budden Barrett at number ten.
I think he would have come in and plays off
the You know, he would have played there in the
second half last week if he hadn't been ill. They
would have moved him up from fullback, given him half
an hour and then paved the way to say he's
going to start and Willington, we're going to give Damian
(05:39):
the week off type thing, so it'll look like Damien's
potentially been dropped. I don't think that'll be the scenario.
I'm pretty sure that they're going to pick Budden at ten.
I don't know what they'll do with McKinsey and whether
he'll go on the bench or whether he'll just come
out with the team altogether and have a week off.
But look, he's been an interesting character, Damian because he's
had some magical moments and he's has some catastrophic moments,
(06:02):
and you's a sense that he's not building or developing
the game management or the tactical leadership that they want.
But yes, the magic is there, and can they can
they get them to mature and grow and give them
both sides of what they're looking for.
Speaker 1 (06:16):
Interesting this week they've brought in the professor Wyne Smith.
Do you think he'll make a much of a difference
to the team performance?
Speaker 2 (06:23):
Ah? Look, you you probably makes a difference to the
coaching group in terms of giving them some advice around
how they're operating. I'm not sure he's going to be
able to come in and wave a magic wands and
you know, say, hey, the reason you haven't been scoring
points in the second half is bump bumbah. I don't
think that will happen. But you know, he's a good
guy to have around. He'll and part from wisdom. He'll
(06:45):
help the coaching group look at how they're coaching. And look,
you've got to be thinking, surely they can't lose another
game in Wellington, and surely they're going to find a
way to score some points in the second half. It
can't keep going on.
Speaker 1 (06:58):
Do you think this will be a different old Black
team that runs out onto the park on Saturday and
they'll really sort of put everything to racist say, Hi,
that's the old Blacks of Old.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I don't know we'll quite get into the old old
Blacks of old, because I think they'll be I mean,
we know we're guessing that there's going to be a
change at ten. We know there'll be a change in
the midfield because Jodi Barrett's out. Yeah, there might be
other changes elsewhere, you know, because they've got the Bloder
flow under wraps. This is an opportunity to build the depth,
ay bit, So if you if you make a few changes,
(07:28):
you're going to end up a little bit of continuity problem.
You know, you're going to bid the name blah blah,
or you have a bit of rask all that kind
of stuff. So no, I don't think we will, But
I would like to think that you'll say performance that
they're able to continue what they start through to the
eightieth minute rather than just disappear entirely in the second
half and.
Speaker 1 (07:47):
Watch the discipline and don't have guys in the sinburn
That doesn't help, does it?
Speaker 2 (07:51):
Nice? And I mean, you know, I could be coaching here, BK.
This is it. We could have a team around us
in the changing room, watching discipline or mucking around. Yeah,
that's a symptom of being under pressure, of not having
confidence on what they're doing, of looking at the doorboard
and feeling it's going away from them. So guys to
make poor decisions when they're under pressure, and then it
(08:12):
becomes compounding. When you're down to fourteen, you know you're
under yet more pressure. And we saw that killed Clark
makes a mistake again. You know, Impulse puts his hand
out another yellow card. You're down to thirteen, and then
you're in you know, playing with thirteen, you like you're
in real trouble at that point.
Speaker 1 (08:27):
Absolutely, greg I enjoyed the Test match.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Thank you for your opinion, mate, Well, thank you.
Speaker 1 (08:33):
Gregor Paul joining us here and of course live commentary
of the match. Elliott Elliot Smith will be calling along
with Ross Baond Jason Pine on Saturday evening, kickoff just
after seven o'clock on Gold
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