October 17, 2024 • 5 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Sport, the Latest from the Land and just great rock.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's the Country Sport Breakfast with Brian Kelly on Gold Sport,
your home of live commentary. Journey is out of the
Press Gallery, News Dog ZB political editor. Haven't spoken for
all we will Jason Walls morning, Jason.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Oh, good morning, my friend. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Oh? Very well? Thank you. You've had a busy twenty
four hours, haven't you.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's always a busy twenty four hours down here, especially
with the Green Party, And now we have confirmation that
its membership or its delegates have overwhelmingly voted to trigger
the Walker jumping clause and start the process of ejecting
Darlen Tanner from Parliament. So that decision now sits with
(00:42):
the Speaker of the House, Jerry Brownley, who will be
considering it. Basically, he has to answer the question does
Darlene Tana still being in Parliament but not part of
the Greens distort the proportionality of parliament. Essentially, she was
voted in as a Green MP, but she has now
gone off by herself, and the Green have less representation
because somebody that their voter's voted for is no longer
(01:04):
in their party. So that's their main argument. However, Darling
Tanner has argued in the past that she still is
practically voting the exact same way as the Greens and
that doesn't distort the proportionality. So she thinks that everything
is fine and she's going to be all all right. However,
Chloe Swarbler class night was arguing that Darling Tana a
(01:25):
lot of the times just doesn't even bother to turn
up to vote in the House, so that argument is
null and void. So it was a pretty predictable outcome
on this. No one's really surprised that the Greens decided
to go down this path, despite the fact that the
Greens were vehemently opposed to this legislation when it was
proposed a few years ago, and now actually quite ironically
(01:47):
as the first party to actually use it.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, it's rather ironic, really, isn't it. And Darling Tana
is digging a toson, hasn't She launched an appeal already.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
She's launched an appeal to the High Court, so that
is almost a separate issue. Basically, her appeal is based
on the fact that she thinks that she was the
way that she was forced to resign from the Green
Party wasn't it didn't uphold the Green's own rules. So
she says, it's essentially what is in most workplaces would
(02:17):
be almost like an unfair dismissal. But the first time
that went to the High Court, the judge said absolutely not,
that's not the case. I'm paraphrasing. Of course the judge
didn't say absolutely not, but you get the point. And
the Greens are so confident that the appeal is going
to fail that they just went ahead with this vote anyway.
So we can be pretty confident in that to say
that the appeal is probably dead in the water.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So will Jerry Browne react pretty like very straight away
today over it? Well take some time.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, so we're in a bit of uncharted territory here.
As I mentioned, this is the first time we've actually
seen the walker jumping bill play out. We had a
number of rogue MPs over the last couple of year.
Is you can think Jamie Lee Ross would have Shatamau,
I mean the Greens with Elizabeth Ketty Ketty, There's been
quite a few, but none of them have actually triggered
the walk. None of the parties have triggered this legislation,
(03:09):
so it's it's it's unclear how long this will take.
I mean, Jerry Browne has had a long time to
consider this situation. It's been months and months and months now. However,
you know he has his legal team and the clerks
in the House who will be guiding him on this issue.
So I imagine we'll get some sort of response from
him today, something along the lines of I'm looking into
(03:30):
this and it's taking some time. But in terms of
how long it's going to take, we'll have to wait
to see.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
All right, we'll watch this space. And also what's going
on with Tapata, Mauri and Winston. They've got a bit
of a beef.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Well, they absolutely have a bit of beef. I mean
it's been culminating for weeks and weeks and weeks. In fact,
you didn't even say years, to be honest. But it
really came to the floor again this week, and it
came in the House on Wednesday when Willow gene Prime,
who's a Labor Party MP, was questioning the Education Minister
and after she asked her question that the Education Minister,
(04:03):
Eric Stafford stood up to answer it, but Willow Jean
was barracking and heckling the whole time, which made where
Winston stand up and essentially said, make some sort of
likeness to teachers speaking when a student speaking when the
teacher is speaking, and it was disrespectful and depati MARTI
didn't like that, and they were heckling Winston back in
the exchange. In the house was the pair of them
(04:24):
talking about how they wouldn't last five seconds and what
seemed to be a fight with one another. And then
so we grabbed them after the house on what we
call the black and White tiles, and we talked to
party Marty and White to you is pretty adamant that,
Oh I came out to see if I could actually
last five seconds. And then just as he was speaking,
Winston Peters walked straight past them. So we asked Winston, hey,
(04:45):
you are chilling g into a fight? To what she said, Oh, well,
he might walk in, but he'd be limping out, and
Winston walked away. He said, ah, but I wouldn't bother.
So you know, it's it's this war of words. Ultimately,
it doesn't matter. There's a lot of more important things
going on the moment, but it's just one of those
things that you've got to look at and just kind
of chuckle a little bit the way that our political
(05:06):
representatives are behaving.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, you are right there, Hey, Jason. Great to catch
up mate, Always good and we'll watch with interest to
see how Jerry Browne reacts to that decision.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Thanks mate, Talk to you next time.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Jason ware joining us here Out of Parliament News Talks,
zibb's political editor Out of
Sport, the Latest from the Land and just great rock.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
It's the Country Sport Breakfast with Brian Kelly on Gold Sport,
your home of live commentary. Journey is out of the
Press Gallery, News Dog ZB political editor. Haven't spoken for
all we will Jason Walls morning, Jason.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Oh, good morning, my friend. How are you?
Speaker 2 (00:17):
Oh? Very well? Thank you. You've had a busy twenty
four hours, haven't you.
Speaker 1 (00:22):
It's always a busy twenty four hours down here, especially
with the Green Party, And now we have confirmation that
its membership or its delegates have overwhelmingly voted to trigger
the Walker jumping clause and start the process of ejecting
Darlen Tanner from Parliament. So that decision now sits with
(00:42):
the Speaker of the House, Jerry Brownley, who will be
considering it. Basically, he has to answer the question does
Darlene Tana still being in Parliament but not part of
the Greens distort the proportionality of parliament. Essentially, she was
voted in as a Green MP, but she has now
gone off by herself, and the Green have less representation
because somebody that their voter's voted for is no longer
(01:04):
in their party. So that's their main argument. However, Darling
Tanner has argued in the past that she still is
practically voting the exact same way as the Greens and
that doesn't distort the proportionality. So she thinks that everything
is fine and she's going to be all all right. However,
Chloe Swarbler class night was arguing that Darling Tana a
(01:25):
lot of the times just doesn't even bother to turn
up to vote in the House, so that argument is
null and void. So it was a pretty predictable outcome
on this. No one's really surprised that the Greens decided
to go down this path, despite the fact that the
Greens were vehemently opposed to this legislation when it was
proposed a few years ago, and now actually quite ironically
(01:47):
as the first party to actually use it.
Speaker 2 (01:49):
Yeah, it's rather ironic, really, isn't it. And Darling Tana
is digging a toson, hasn't She launched an appeal already.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
She's launched an appeal to the High Court, so that
is almost a separate issue. Basically, her appeal is based
on the fact that she thinks that she was the
way that she was forced to resign from the Green
Party wasn't it didn't uphold the Green's own rules. So
she says, it's essentially what is in most workplaces would
(02:17):
be almost like an unfair dismissal. But the first time
that went to the High Court, the judge said absolutely not,
that's not the case. I'm paraphrasing. Of course the judge
didn't say absolutely not, but you get the point. And
the Greens are so confident that the appeal is going
to fail that they just went ahead with this vote anyway.
So we can be pretty confident in that to say
that the appeal is probably dead in the water.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
So will Jerry Browne react pretty like very straight away
today over it? Well take some time.
Speaker 1 (02:48):
Well, so we're in a bit of uncharted territory here.
As I mentioned, this is the first time we've actually
seen the walker jumping bill play out. We had a
number of rogue MPs over the last couple of year.
Is you can think Jamie Lee Ross would have Shatamau,
I mean the Greens with Elizabeth Ketty Ketty, There's been
quite a few, but none of them have actually triggered
the walk. None of the parties have triggered this legislation,
(03:09):
so it's it's it's unclear how long this will take.
I mean, Jerry Browne has had a long time to
consider this situation. It's been months and months and months now. However,
you know he has his legal team and the clerks
in the House who will be guiding him on this issue.
So I imagine we'll get some sort of response from
him today, something along the lines of I'm looking into
(03:30):
this and it's taking some time. But in terms of
how long it's going to take, we'll have to wait
to see.
Speaker 2 (03:35):
All right, we'll watch this space. And also what's going
on with Tapata, Mauri and Winston. They've got a bit
of a beef.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Well, they absolutely have a bit of beef. I mean
it's been culminating for weeks and weeks and weeks. In fact,
you didn't even say years, to be honest. But it
really came to the floor again this week, and it
came in the House on Wednesday when Willow gene Prime,
who's a Labor Party MP, was questioning the Education Minister
and after she asked her question that the Education Minister,
(04:03):
Eric Stafford stood up to answer it, but Willow Jean
was barracking and heckling the whole time, which made where
Winston stand up and essentially said, make some sort of
likeness to teachers speaking when a student speaking when the
teacher is speaking, and it was disrespectful and depati MARTI
didn't like that, and they were heckling Winston back in
the exchange. In the house was the pair of them
(04:24):
talking about how they wouldn't last five seconds and what
seemed to be a fight with one another. And then
so we grabbed them after the house on what we
call the black and White tiles, and we talked to
party Marty and White to you is pretty adamant that,
Oh I came out to see if I could actually
last five seconds. And then just as he was speaking,
Winston Peters walked straight past them. So we asked Winston, hey,
(04:45):
you are chilling g into a fight? To what she said, Oh, well,
he might walk in, but he'd be limping out, and
Winston walked away. He said, ah, but I wouldn't bother.
So you know, it's it's this war of words. Ultimately,
it doesn't matter. There's a lot of more important things
going on the moment, but it's just one of those
things that you've got to look at and just kind
of chuckle a little bit the way that our political
(05:06):
representatives are behaving.
Speaker 2 (05:07):
Yeah, you are right there, Hey, Jason. Great to catch
up mate, Always good and we'll watch with interest to
see how Jerry Browne reacts to that decision.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Thanks mate, Talk to you next time.
Speaker 2 (05:18):
Jason ware joining us here Out of Parliament News Talks,
zibb's political editor Out of
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