November 20, 2024 • 7 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Whether it's gum boots or rugby boots. The Country Sport
Breakfast has you covered on gold Sport, your home of
live commentary, catching up.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
With Michael Cooper's Talk Wine this week and Michael this week,
and we haven't I don't think ever done this. We're
going to be talking cask wine.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, that's right, Bryan. And why do you send me samples?
Invariably they're they're sort of middle tier wines. Upper They
never seen me cast wines?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, you well you don't when you think of wine,
you don't generally think of cask wines either, really do you?
But are they coming back into vogue?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Well, I well, let's put it this way. I do, like, say,
thirty years ago, cast wines were you know, I remember,
you know, like ca chur Yes, yes, they were really common.
They were everywhere. Yeah, And I suppose what happened is
people got more and more familiar with wine than they
wanted to drink better quality wine. And you know, you
normally find that in the bottle. But the reality is
(01:10):
that there are lots of people who you know, approach
wine in the same way that they might approach many
other areas where you used to want something that actually,
you know, does the job. You're not going to be
agonizing over finesse and god knows what. You just want
a pleasant drink and casts can certainly provide that, and
they can be very economical. And so the range of
(01:32):
casts that were sent to me recently, they're two liters
and they sell in the price range of twenty to
twenty five dollars. So that's the equivalent of say, seven
dollars fifty to nine dollars a bottle. Wow, when you
think about all of the cost of living pressures that
are on people currently hearing about that, then here are
some wines which I'll talk about. You know, which I
(01:55):
think are the better and which are the not so
good ones. But you know, at seven dollars fifty nine
dollars a bottle, they are obviously relatively cheap. And the
other thing is they apparently keep fresh for let's say,
up to six weeks, so you get that flexibility.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Right. Okay, let's hear about them then, right.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
So the wines are called wine Smiths the Ross Murray Edition,
So that's the brand wine Smoit's the Ross Murray Edition.
Now immediately think Ross Murray, what's this all about? Well,
he's from Mount Molanui. He's a prominent illustrator. He's done
all sorts of work and he's been invited to supply
(02:36):
the packaging for these wine casts. And it's all about
colorful images and dinghies and fish and shells and beach
balls and sun umbrellas. You know, you get the picture, Yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. And so they really are very cheerful New
Zealand images. But although the packaging is distinctly keiwek, they're
(02:56):
actually South Australian wines made by a company called hill Smith,
who own Australia's oldest family owned winery, Your Lumba, which
is well known in New Zealand. And they also own
an even more familiar brand that kiwis know, Nautilus, which
is in Malbrough. So I sort of quietly sipped away
(03:20):
on these wines for a period of days and got
to know them quite well. And there's three whites of
rose and three reds, and I must say overall I
prefer the reds. And I think that's simply because in
New Zealand, as you know, we make these really good, aromatic,
favor packed crisp white wines. That's our sort of strength overall.
(03:41):
But Australia, one of their big advantages is their relative warmth,
and what that means is that they can crop their
vines heavily, you know, Charrahs and cabinet sauvignons and actually
get the grapes ripe, which enables them to produce low
price but affordable reds. Whereas if we try to do
that in New Zealand, because of our cooler climate, we
(04:02):
simply can't crop the vines heavily and get red wine
grapes ripe.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Okay, okay, let's hear about the whites.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, let's sort of just look. So for listeners who
enjoy pino gree, I thought, it's good. It's eminently gluggible,
it's fresh, it's medium bodied, it's got a sort of
sliver of sweetness which you expect normally in pinogree, not always,
but usually, and it's got peach, pears, spice flavors. They're lively,
will balanced, so you don't expect richness and sort of
(04:33):
a memorable mouthful. But as an easy drinking summer pino
gree I do recommend that wine wine Smith's the Ross
Murray Peno Gree the chardon may also up. Once again,
you don't expect anything that's sort of rich or complex,
but it's a very decent, all purpose dry white, sort
of medium bodied, pleasant, peachy, citrusy flavor's no side of oak,
(04:55):
but you know, creamy, smooth down the hatch chardon ay
so and you know, as I say, I'd be quite
happy to drink it. The Sauvignyon Blanc I thought was
the disappointing wine of the white wines. It's light, it's
rather plain, it's got sort of fresh green apple like flavors.
They picked the grapes early to try and get some
(05:16):
of those more herbal characters, but for people who were
used to mould with Sauvignon blanc, I really didn't find
much to get excited about. The rose was quite solid, enjoyable.
Now it's from twenty twenty three, so it's ready to roll.
Basically dry with sort of strawberry, spice and peach flavors.
But I thought the reds were the ones that really
(05:37):
stood out. In particular. There is a Chiraz which is
perfectly decent, mouth filling, smooth, right, sort of slightly spicy flavors.
It's not rich, but it's easy drinking. Then we step
up to the Merlow, which I thought was very cruisy,
full body with generous RedBerry, palm and dark chocolate flavors.
(05:59):
So Merlow, you know, a good tick of approval. My
favorite and the one I'm very happy to drink. And
being a completely spoiled wine drinker, you know, this one
surprised me how good it is. And that's the Cabinet Souvignon.
It's full bodied, it's got very good depth of ripe
black currant, RedBerry, plum and spice flavors, hints of dark
(06:20):
chocolate and nuts, and it moderately firm finish, so it's
very clearly Cabinet Sauvignon. And when you can buy it
for the equipment of seven dollars fifty to nine dollars,
I thought, that's a very good bye.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And these these wines, these cask wines, Winesmith's the Ross
Murray Edition. They're available where supermarkets and wine shops all
over the place.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Well, I did a Google search yesterday and because this
is they're just being phased into the marketplace now and
they're only on the market for about six months. And
what the plan is every year they're going to change
the artist and change the packaging, and apparently this has
been done in Australia for several years and it's worked
really well just to sort of revive interest in cast wines.
(07:02):
So they're coming out. I saw that, for example a
New World supermarket, and Auband has got it on their
website right now, so I think they're just hitting the shelves.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
All right, good value for money, nice one, a little
bit different, lovely to chat, Michael, Let's do it again
next week, right, I really the wrong song to play
here should be cask of wine. Cask of wine rather
than bottle of wine, Michael Cooper, our friendly wine kind
of so not often we get to criticize cask wine
Whether it's gum boots or rugby boots. The Country Sport
Breakfast has you covered on gold Sport, your home of
live commentary, catching up.
Speaker 2 (00:16):
With Michael Cooper's Talk Wine this week and Michael this week,
and we haven't I don't think ever done this. We're
going to be talking cask wine.
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Well, that's right, Bryan. And why do you send me samples?
Invariably they're they're sort of middle tier wines. Upper They
never seen me cast wines?
Speaker 2 (00:40):
No, you well you don't when you think of wine,
you don't generally think of cask wines either, really do you?
But are they coming back into vogue?
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Well, I well, let's put it this way. I do, like, say,
thirty years ago, cast wines were you know, I remember,
you know, like ca chur Yes, yes, they were really common.
They were everywhere. Yeah, And I suppose what happened is
people got more and more familiar with wine than they
wanted to drink better quality wine. And you know, you
normally find that in the bottle. But the reality is
(01:10):
that there are lots of people who you know, approach
wine in the same way that they might approach many
other areas where you used to want something that actually,
you know, does the job. You're not going to be
agonizing over finesse and god knows what. You just want
a pleasant drink and casts can certainly provide that, and
they can be very economical. And so the range of
(01:32):
casts that were sent to me recently, they're two liters
and they sell in the price range of twenty to
twenty five dollars. So that's the equivalent of say, seven
dollars fifty to nine dollars a bottle. Wow, when you
think about all of the cost of living pressures that
are on people currently hearing about that, then here are
some wines which I'll talk about. You know, which I
(01:55):
think are the better and which are the not so
good ones. But you know, at seven dollars fifty nine
dollars a bottle, they are obviously relatively cheap. And the
other thing is they apparently keep fresh for let's say,
up to six weeks, so you get that flexibility.
Speaker 2 (02:10):
Right. Okay, let's hear about them then, right.
Speaker 3 (02:13):
So the wines are called wine Smiths the Ross Murray Edition,
So that's the brand wine Smoit's the Ross Murray Edition.
Now immediately think Ross Murray, what's this all about? Well,
he's from Mount Molanui. He's a prominent illustrator. He's done
all sorts of work and he's been invited to supply
(02:36):
the packaging for these wine casts. And it's all about
colorful images and dinghies and fish and shells and beach
balls and sun umbrellas. You know, you get the picture, Yeah, yeah,
yeah yeah. And so they really are very cheerful New
Zealand images. But although the packaging is distinctly keiwek, they're
(02:56):
actually South Australian wines made by a company called hill Smith,
who own Australia's oldest family owned winery, Your Lumba, which
is well known in New Zealand. And they also own
an even more familiar brand that kiwis know, Nautilus, which
is in Malbrough. So I sort of quietly sipped away
(03:20):
on these wines for a period of days and got
to know them quite well. And there's three whites of
rose and three reds, and I must say overall I
prefer the reds. And I think that's simply because in
New Zealand, as you know, we make these really good, aromatic,
favor packed crisp white wines. That's our sort of strength overall.
(03:41):
But Australia, one of their big advantages is their relative warmth,
and what that means is that they can crop their
vines heavily, you know, Charrahs and cabinet sauvignons and actually
get the grapes ripe, which enables them to produce low
price but affordable reds. Whereas if we try to do
that in New Zealand, because of our cooler climate, we
(04:02):
simply can't crop the vines heavily and get red wine
grapes ripe.
Speaker 2 (04:07):
Okay, okay, let's hear about the whites.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Yeah, let's sort of just look. So for listeners who
enjoy pino gree, I thought, it's good. It's eminently gluggible,
it's fresh, it's medium bodied, it's got a sort of
sliver of sweetness which you expect normally in pinogree, not always,
but usually, and it's got peach, pears, spice flavors. They're lively,
will balanced, so you don't expect richness and sort of
(04:33):
a memorable mouthful. But as an easy drinking summer pino
gree I do recommend that wine wine Smith's the Ross
Murray Peno Gree the chardon may also up. Once again,
you don't expect anything that's sort of rich or complex,
but it's a very decent, all purpose dry white, sort
of medium bodied, pleasant, peachy, citrusy flavor's no side of oak,
(04:55):
but you know, creamy, smooth down the hatch chardon ay
so and you know, as I say, I'd be quite
happy to drink it. The Sauvignyon Blanc I thought was
the disappointing wine of the white wines. It's light, it's
rather plain, it's got sort of fresh green apple like flavors.
They picked the grapes early to try and get some
(05:16):
of those more herbal characters, but for people who were
used to mould with Sauvignon blanc, I really didn't find
much to get excited about. The rose was quite solid, enjoyable.
Now it's from twenty twenty three, so it's ready to roll.
Basically dry with sort of strawberry, spice and peach flavors.
But I thought the reds were the ones that really
(05:37):
stood out. In particular. There is a Chiraz which is
perfectly decent, mouth filling, smooth, right, sort of slightly spicy flavors.
It's not rich, but it's easy drinking. Then we step
up to the Merlow, which I thought was very cruisy,
full body with generous RedBerry, palm and dark chocolate flavors.
(05:59):
So Merlow, you know, a good tick of approval. My
favorite and the one I'm very happy to drink. And
being a completely spoiled wine drinker, you know, this one
surprised me how good it is. And that's the Cabinet Souvignon.
It's full bodied, it's got very good depth of ripe
black currant, RedBerry, plum and spice flavors, hints of dark
(06:20):
chocolate and nuts, and it moderately firm finish, so it's
very clearly Cabinet Sauvignon. And when you can buy it
for the equipment of seven dollars fifty to nine dollars,
I thought, that's a very good bye.
Speaker 2 (06:34):
And these these wines, these cask wines, Winesmith's the Ross
Murray Edition. They're available where supermarkets and wine shops all
over the place.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Well, I did a Google search yesterday and because this
is they're just being phased into the marketplace now and
they're only on the market for about six months. And
what the plan is every year they're going to change
the artist and change the packaging, and apparently this has
been done in Australia for several years and it's worked
really well just to sort of revive interest in cast wines.
(07:02):
So they're coming out. I saw that, for example a
New World supermarket, and Auband has got it on their
website right now, so I think they're just hitting the shelves.
Speaker 2 (07:12):
All right, good value for money, nice one, a little
bit different, lovely to chat, Michael, Let's do it again
next week, right, I really the wrong song to play
here should be cask of wine. Cask of wine rather
than bottle of wine, Michael Cooper, our friendly wine kind
of so not often we get to criticize cask wine
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