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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is Doctor Wendy Walsh and you're listening to KFI
AM six forty the Doctor Wendy Walls Show on demand
on the iHeartRadio app. This is the Doctor Wendy Walls Show.
Stay with me because for the next two hours we
are going to talk about love, your love life, everybody
else's love life, the science of love, and if you're
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in a relationship where you're kind of in the duldrums
of marriage. I've got a few micro moves that you
can do to change everything right away. Coming up on
the show, the Diddy doc seems to be all that
America is talking about. Is it the sex, is it
the murder? Is it the safety of fifty cent We'll
get into it. Plus could your relationship pass the micro
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habit test? And what role does religion play in modern
dating and marriage. I've got an expert that if you're Jewish,
is going to help you find a mate at a
special Christmas party. Producer, Kayla, how you doing live in.
Speaker 2 (01:00):
The dream, Doctor Wendy.
Speaker 1 (01:01):
I'm actually wrapped up in this story.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
Did you see the producer, director Rob Reno died this home.
Speaker 1 (01:08):
But we don't know every No.
Speaker 2 (01:09):
It's been confirmed, it has been confirmed. No no, no, no, no, no, no,
right wrong.
Speaker 1 (01:15):
But so we know that there are two bodies. We
know that one is they've released is seventy eight years old.
The other one they're saying is sixty eight. I did
a little bit of a deep dive on Michelle Singer,
his wife, and her birth certificate doesn't match what she
tells the world very common, very no, no, no problem
there she if that was her body, she's actually seventy
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and we don't know. I don't know why, but this
is reminding me of like the Gene Hackman and his
wife death. What I'm everybody was so worried about homicide
and you know, bad things going on in the house,
and it turns out she had just gotten a terrible
virus and passed out and died in their bathroom. Remember that,
And then he walked around with the demnsha unable to
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get out of the house or feed himself for a
week before he passed. Its just heartbreaking when you think
about it, right, heartbreaking. So we do not know. We
do know that Rob Reiner, former meathead. You're too young
to remember, right, Kaylea. You didn't remember all in the family, Yeah,
of course it was my dad's favorite show, so as
a kid I had to watch it, and he played Meathead,
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who was kind of the liberal son in law to
this you know, well, what would you call his father
in law? A bigot? Basically, And it was okay to
be a bigot, I guess on TV back then. Anyway,
Rob Reiner went on to become one of the most
successful directors in Hollywood, The Princess Bride, When Harry Met Sally,
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stand By Me Misery. He met his second wife on
the set of When Harry Met Sally Michelle, and she
was a photographer. They married, they have three kids. The
kids appeared to be late twenties early thirties now, and
he's also been known to be a political activist and producer.
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We do not know what happened, but we do know
that his dad, Carl Reiner, lived a very long time,
I think well into his nineties. So Rob Reiner's got
some good jeans. So what happened we don't know, and
we don't know if he has passed away. Although wouldn't
it be fun not funny, don't be okay, crazy, let's
just try. Wouldn't it be insane? Okay? If he uh
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was out of town with his wife somewhere with no internet,
not knowing this is going on. And he had some
like Airbnb guests in there and doing some wonky things
with some drugs, and they passed away, and then all
of a sudden, we get a text from him going
I'm fine, I'm fine. Like, we don't know. So that's
why we can't speculate, because anything could be possible. Anyway,
our heart goes out to the family members, especially the children.
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If in fact Rob Bryner has passed away, we will
know very soon by tomorrow morning. I'm sure. Uh Kayla,
you got me on a treadmill. Last week, it's this
Puff Daddy documentary Craziness. Craziness is all anybody's talking about now, Okay,
if you guys haven't seen it, it's on Netflix. It
dropped last week or the week before whatever, not that long.
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And it's like four episodes or something that you can't
put down. You have to binge and I'll tell you.
I mean, it's filled with everything, you know, potential murder.
There's a guy who says, oh no, they just took
this guy to the bathroom and they just shot him.
And then all of a sudden, they told me, and
he's busy producing an album. Take the body out front,
tell the police he died on the street. Somebody was
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a hitting run And the police just went okay, like
I don't know what's true and what's not true. That
apparently Puff Daddy and his assistant go to Kid Cuddy's
house to murder him. I'm just like, what, Like, I
don't know who to believe. And then when they interview
some of the jury members in Diddy's trial and they're
like totally fangirling on him. Oh yeah, I caught his
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eye and he and I totally agreed. We could tell
about the on his face that that person must have
been lying. I was just like, whoa, whoa, whoa. But
you know where my heart went. Cassie, Cassie Cassie Cassandra
Ventura was his girlfriend. He had two girlfriends. He was
never actually married to Kim Porter and who he had
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three kids with. And Cassie was his punching bag and
his sex toy and the one that he would hire
these jigglow male prostitutes to have sex with her, keep
her on drugs so she could get through it. This
guy reports that he had sex with her for like
eighteen to twenty hours, Kayla, is this possible? Eighteen to
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twenty hours, eighteen to twenty I don't know. All I
can just think is bladder infection. Bladder infection, that's all
UTI hurts. So anyway, I had to go stalk her
online to see if she's okay because I'm so worried
about Cassie. And turns out she's happily married. She married
a trainer. You know, she's got some money from Ditty
right because she sued him for stuff, and so she
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got some money and has three kids, three little kids,
and she's only thirty nine years old. I also went
on her Instagram. It looks like Kim Kardashian gave her
a modeling job, doing the Skims thing, and uh so,
I am so happy Cassie's okay. I am so. I
was just so worried, maybe because I'm a survivor of
domestic violence and I was triggered by it all. And then,
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of course in the documentary you see that scene in
the hotel where he beats her, et cetera. And anyway,
it is some addictive television. But the big question everybody's
answering is how can fifty Cent, the producer who's another
rapper feel safe. My husband Julio, you know who's a
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film producer and you know knows people in the music industry,
says that Ditty has no money and no control and
no power anymore. I don't know. I just hope fifty
cents Okay, fifty Cent posted on his Instagram that somehow
from prison, did he got somebody to send him a
big funeral bouquet of flowers to his house, implying rest
in peace, like you're gonna die.
Speaker 3 (07:10):
I don't know.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
It's all weird, But while you're watching stuff online, I
want to tell you that I'm just so proud of
my husband. He's involved with the whole team who helped
produce the much lauded documentary done by Nico balisterras on
Kanye West. It is called In Whose Name. It came
out in September. I can say this because my husband
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doesn't stand to make one penny on what I'm about
to tell you. But today the La Times called In
Whose Name one of the top ten films of twenty
twenty five, So they did something wonderful for all the
fans out there who might have missed it. In theaters
in September. Kanye West fans or anybody who just wants
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to see It's not about well, it is about his decline,
you know, really see his mental health struggles, dissolution of
his high profile marriage to Kim Kardashian. It is now
as of today, on everything, Apple, Amazon, Google, YouTube, Fendango, everywhere. Okay,
So if you didn't hear me talk about it before,
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Nico Balastero's was an eighteen year old kid down in
Orange County and somehow Kanye found him on Kanye West.
Remember this is not P Diddy, different person. Kanye West
was married to Kim Kardashian, found him on YouTube and said,
just start to record me, and he crafted three thousand
hours of unrestricted access. He did not know during the
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six year period that he would go that Kanye would
go off his medication, his bipolar diagnosis would become full range.
You see the rise of his billion dollar fashion empire.
You see the fall out of his collapsing marriage. You
see the heightened media scrutiny and the public backclass because
he said of bad things. I found it interesting. I
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saw a couple of times because you get to see
mental health struggles with a celebrity, and everybody who's listening
has somebody in their family who struggles with mental health somewhere,
and so I hope it can create some compassion in you.
It's called in whose Name, and it's everywhere.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
Now you're listening to doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from
KFI Am six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Can we talk about your relationship? And I don't want
to talk about the big stuff like oh, you know
they're gorgeous, or they make a lot of money, or
we have a big house, or we have lots of kids,
or what the big big stuff. Believe it or not,
The big stuff is not what determines happiness. It's not
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what determines relationship satisfaction. It's the little stuff. I like
to call them micro habits, to the little teent tiny
things that we do in our relationship. Now, there are
plenty of people who don't have what I would call
a healthy model for love in their head. Let me explain.
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So our idea of what love is is something that
is formed really early in life, like as an infant,
a toddler. We don't even remember when and how we
got all these messages that determined what love is. Then
we grow up, we go into our adult lives and
we try to find somebody that gives us our version
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of our familiar feeling of love. Now, when I say
our version, I remind you everybody's got a different version
of love. That's why it's really important. We talk about
our expectations and how we think it should be, and
then when someone lets us down because they're not doing
what you think, we get all upset, when in truth,
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we didn't really reveal to them what our expectations were.
Now all is well and good. If as an infant
and toddler, your parent gave you deep love, soothed you
when you were upset, change your diaper when it was wet,
fed you when you were hungry, took care of you,
you grow up believing that the world is safe and
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that partners are loving because we replicate the kind of
love we had with our parents. But all too often
people grow up with this model of love that is
a little painful, that might have some trauma in it.
And as a result, we'll go out and we'll find
partners who will make us feel that way because that's
normal to us. That's what love is supposed to be.
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I'm telling you all of this because one of the
most common messages or inquiries that I get on my
social media is something like, you know, my husband does
this or my wife does that, and is that normal? Normal?
I prever to youse were typical normal, But really they're
searching for what is right in love, what is expected
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in love. So one of the things I love about
the microhabits that I've come up with. I didn't invent them,
I went through the research and looked at them, is
that it's a roadmap. If you happen to be one
of those people who doesn't have a healthy model of love,
then maybe you can implement some of these in your relationship. Okay,
let's go through a few of them. I have ten
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of them that I came up with, all right. The
first one is micro habit number one, turning toward not away. Now,
this is based on the famous John Gottman's longitudinal studies
who found that couples who stayed together turned toward bids
for connection. I'll get to that in a second almost
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ninety percent of the time, while people who ended up
divorcing only turned toward their partner about thirty percent of
the time. Now, let's explain what turn toward means. Let's
say your partner just makes a comment, just an off
sided comment, or size does a nonverbal communication, folds their arms,
whatever makes a joke, is funny or complains. If you
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ignore it, if you dismiss it, that's called turning away,
not turning toward. Turning toward is a micro behavior That
means looking up from your phone, paying attention to them,
saying uh huh, tell me more, or just smiling. You See,
every time you turn towards you your partner, it's a
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deposit in your emotional bank account. Okay, micro habit number two,
how do you and your partner share your meals? This
is really important. So Julio and I love to dine together.
We do two meals a day, often a nice big
breakfast together and a dinner. We talk about our day. Right,
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we don't crunch through our dinner in silence. There are
no phones at our table. If there is is because
one of us need to get some data or effect
to continue the conversation. I don't know. Do you know
if that's true?
Speaker 3 (14:05):
Honey?
Speaker 1 (14:05):
Well, let me just check see what my robot says
and it continues the conversation. So one study I found
researchers conceptualize joint health behaviors to include core routines like
eating meals together or even exercising side to site we
went to the gym together this afternoon, or entering a
shared sleep environment. We tend to go to sleep at
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the same time. I need less sleep than my husband,
so he falls asleep and I read is what happens?
Or I wake up earlier in the morning and do
work on my computer but in bed right. Micro habit
number three gratitude over criticism. There's so much research to
support this, and Gottman in his marriage lab looked at, really,
how many compliments do you have to give your partner
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every day compared to how much criticism you will be surprised.
So when I talk about gratitude, I mean really specific
verbal appreciation, not general praise like you're a good guy,
but more like thanks for doing that, that's so nice
of you. Gotman found the ratio should be five to
one of positive to negative interactions. That means five times
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a day you can be saying, hey, thanks for taking
care of that. Oh I noticed you remembered. Really, that's
so sweet of you, five times a day and only
one time with the hey, you didn't do that right.
Appreciation counters any contempt you might have for your partner.
All hey, we live with people. It's there, and contempted
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is the number one predictor of divorce. Okay, micro have
at number four reciprocal texting etiquette. If you're in a
relationship with somebody and always wondering why don't they text
you back, or why don't they write much, or what's
going on? You know? Nowadays digital communication is as important
as every other kind of communication. Research published in the
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Journal of Social and Personality Relationships found that frequency and
responsiveness in couple's texting was linked to romantic satisfation, satisfaction
especially for long distance relationships. Of course, do I have
time for one more? Allie? How's our time going? One more?
One more? Quick? One? Because he's sitting there with baited breath, wondering.
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What is micro habit Number five? Allie, it's the six
second kiss, all right, And here's what it looks like.
It is a time to engage emotionally, not just socially.
Not a quick peck on the cheek and a running
out the door. A six second kiss. According to the
gotment Institute releases oxytocin, the big bonding hormone strengthens our
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pair bonding. It signals you matter to me beyond just
a routine. All right, Okay, well we go back. I
have five more microhabits. Let's see if you have them
in your relationship. Remember, happy relationships are built quietly, all right.
It's not big, great and gestures. They're built on all
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these microhabits. And I also have a prescription coming up
for a few things you can do to change your
relationship dramatically within a few days.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
You're listening to doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI
Am six forty.
Speaker 1 (17:19):
I have some very sad news to report. Actor director
Rob Reiner has been identified as one of the bodies
found in his home, as was his wife, Michelle Singer Reiner.
TMZ is reporting that their sources say that the two
suffered lacerations consistent with a knife. The LAPD's Robbery Homicide
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Division is still investigating. From what we know, Director Rob
Reiner was a healthy man with a long life expectancy
in front of him. His father, Carl Reiner, lived for
or decades more. We're trying to get a hold of
kfi's owned Tim Conway Junior, whose father Tim Conway was
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good friends with Rob Reiner, and hopefully he can come
on and give us some reflection on that very sad news. Today,
Rob Reiner and his wife Michelle Singer Reiner announced dead.
The first call came at three thirty this afternoon as
a medical alert needing medical attention, and then it was
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announced by the LPD that two bodies were found, and
just in the last few minutes they were identified. Heartbreaking.
We will continue to bring you more information as it breaks.
One of the things I can say is they probably
had a pretty good relationship. They have three kids in
their late twenties early thirties, and I met him a
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couple times in my life back when I was an
entertainment reporter, and he was always very warm, he was
very personable. If I could conjecture, I would say that
he probably had a very healthy relationship. I don't know
how to do this segue, Kayla, Do I gotta go
back to microhabits in our own relationship? Now? It's so hard.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
I'm yeah, yeah, we got to get to the micro habits.
But it is absolutely terrible, and we are trying to
get kindly. I think he's comforting some family because, like
you say, actually knew that was a close family front.
Speaker 1 (19:21):
So I think they're going through it right now. This
is heartbreaking. Okay, back to our own relationships and these
micro habits. Now it is more important than ever to
think about. We don't know how much time any of
us have left. Okay, we need to think about what
we do every single day with our partner. We need
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to look at each day as the important day, the
day to remember micro habit number six, warm departures and reunions.
You know, this morning, my husband went out to drive
his classic car. He's got an old Porsche and so
I'm going to drive it for a while, you know.
And he made a bee line through the house to
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come into the bedroom where I was still cozy in bed,
thinking and planning my show for tonight. And he made
a point of stopping to lean down to kiss me
and say goodbye. And I realize that we do that
every time. I'm gonna tell you a story. I had
a friend, have a friend who lived in a very
big house, I mean like a huge house, and she
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didn't greet her husband when he came home from work.
I advised her to do it, and I'll have more
on that later, but I think it actually improved their marriage. Okay.
Micro habit number seven making attempts to repair during a conflict.
So every relationship has conflict at some point or another.
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People get upset, they yell, whatever, But there are people
that are able to, at the height of the drama,
be able to de escalate a little bit. These are
called successful repair attempts, and they're the big things that
distinguish happy couples from unhappy ones. So some micro behaviors
that are important during conflict might be humor, finding a
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way to make a funny out of it, or just saying, hey,
can we just reset here, or you know, we're on
the same team, right. That's one of the things I
will say to Julio for ever in an argument is
remember we both want to benefit here. We're both on
the same team, right. Remember it's not whether couples fight,
it's how they make repair. Everybody fights. But if you
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think it's water under the bridge and you should never
talk about it ever again and just forget about it,
that's not healthy repair. Healthy repair is processing it and
talking about it. Okay, Another big one I had a
latte a few minutes ago. I think I've got like
milk in my throat. I'm not sick, I just have
milk in my throat. Division of labor household routines are
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totally not glamorous, and we do not have to have
traditional gender roles. Nobody does. You should do what you
like to do the most, and if there's something that
both of you don't like to do, then you negotiate
it and you take turns. For instance, it's Sunday night,
he's going to roll out those trash cans. I know
he is, because pickups tomorrow. He loves to do well.
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I don't want to say he loves. He very kindly
does dishes, but he does love to fold laundry. I
used to try to offer to help, but apparently I
do it all wrong, so I backed off. I happen
to love to cook, and I don't want anyone messing
around in my kitchen. I don't need to have a cookoff.
I don't need a partner in it. I just need
my fire and knives and salt and fat. And I
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was going to go for it. So figure out how
you're going to divide labor, but make sure, it's not lopsided.
That's the important part micro habit number nine. Having compatitive,
compative compatible. There we go compatible social styles. We were
out to dinner last night with another couple, and I
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love that. My husband's such a great storyteller. And you know,
I met him when I was fifty eight, and I
used to love that. I used to be attracted to all
these strong, silent types who barely said anything, and now
I got a chatter extrovert and it's a good match.
We kind of interject over each other sometimes and I'll say, no, no,
you finished it, honey, You tell It's so much better, right,
It would tell the stories. But it's really important that
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you're matched in this regard.
Speaker 3 (23:27):
Right.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
There was a study done into twenty twenty three published
in Personality and Individual Differences. It showed that similarity in
traits in sociability and extraversion, and even our sleep patterns.
Some people are mourning people, some people are evening pattern
evening people. This is when our personality similarity is very
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important and it creates much less emotional friction. Do I
have time for the last one? Olly, I am not
watching the clock tonight. Okay, the big one is soft startups.
That means, when you're about to get into a fight,
do it softly and always assume good intent. So the
famous research from the Gotman Institute found that ninety six
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percent of conversations in happy couples and the same way
they begin. Instead of beginning with the word you, you
never and I need to tell you about this because
you're your, your, your, your your, instead it begins with I,
you know, I felt really left out when you went
to that. I felt kind of embarrassed when you said that.
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You know, I feel really stressed right now and I
could really use an ear you hear the difference. You're
talking about you, your feelings and giving them a manual
for what you need. And that's how the difficult, hard
conversations should always begin a soft startup with the assumption
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of good intent. Right, So are there things we could
actually be doing, like literally homework that we could be doing? Well?
Yeah there is. And when we come back, I've got
the Doctor Wendy five point homework plan from your love
professor micro habits that can make your relationship happier.
Speaker 3 (25:19):
You're listening to doctor Wendy Walsh on demand from KFI
AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (25:27):
If you're just tuning in. Actor director Rob Reiner and
his wife, Michelle Singer Reiner have been found dead in
their home. There is reports that there are knife wounds
involved in the Homicide Division is investigating. We are awaiting
a press conference with the LAPD and as soon as
that begins, we're going to cut to it right away,
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So don't touch that dial. Stay with us here on
KFI as we will have the latest, very very sad news.
But I'm doctor Wendy Walsh, and I like to talk
about the science of love, and I think an event
like this makes us all think about how we have
to value every day and every moment with our partner.
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I've been talking about micro habits, small gestures, things that
you can do on a daily basis to help improve
your relationship. Research shows that this these are the habits
of healthy people. There's so much research to support it.
I decided to come up with, you know, a dose
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for you. Don't call it a prescription. We'll call it homework,
all right, I'm a professor five point relationship homework that
are micro habits that can literally make your relationship better
in a very short period of time. Now, what I
want to say is these behaviors are additive, meaning you're
adding something to your relationship rather than you know, having
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to confront your partner. Rather than have to, you know,
go to therapy and process. Although I do recommend augmenting
some of these micro habits by going to couple's therapy
can always be helpful. I also want to say one
of the things I hear from couples all the time
is not you know, my husband won't go to therapy.
My wife is not interested in psychology. One person can
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do this in the relationship without the other partner even knowing.
It's like stealth, and it can change your relationship, all right.
Number one the daily check in. I don't want to
ever hear you say again, how is your day? Just
forget Just erase that sentence how is your day? How
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about focusing on your partner and saying something like, what
was the hardest thing about today? Or what thing felt
most challenging, What's the one thing that felt really heavy
for you today? Everybody has something we all go through
a day and then just listen without fixing. I know
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it's hard for men because men are just natural fixers.
We love you for that, right, Here's why This works.
This question instead of how is your day? That open
ended where all they say is fine, good and then
they shut up. Right, get them to describe something that
was challenging that they may have overcome. It works because
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they perceive that all important partner responsiveness, because it's very
predictive of relationship happiness. So here's a rule here. Don't
give advice, don't switch the stories. Oh I know that
same thing happened to me yesterday with my boss. No, no, no,
none of that. Just be present. What was one thing
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that was tough today? And then focus and listen? All right?
Number two, do one specific appreciation of day. Catch them
being good somewhere somehow and make it concrete. Name one
concrete thing your partner did or catch them doing it
and say I really appreciate that, thank you. I love
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to walk into my kitchen and go, oh my gosh,
the kitchen is so clean, thank you baby, because he
does the dishes right, So I just show appreciate appreciation.
Gratitude has been shown to increase relationship satisfaction. It buffers
against any resentment. You might hold one little rule, though
no general if it could apply to anyone, it doesn't
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count it's got to be specific. I like the way
you did that today. That was so cool, right, that's
how you show appreciation. Number three. I mentioned this earlier,
warm departures and reunions. If you're not in the habit
of going to your partner before you leave the door
for a hug or a kiss, or walking to the
front door where they are to give them a hug
or a kiss. I mentioned this friend that had this
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really big house before really big house, and the husband
would come home and she'd be in the kitchen cooking,
and they wouldn't even barely see each other. He'd go
to his room, you know, change, chill, compress, and then
eventually he come down to the dinner table. I said, no, no, no, no.
When you see the headlights from that car pull in
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to the I would say driveway, but I'll call it
a motor court, then you should run to the front
door right away. And she started doing that, and she said,
oh on, my relationship is so different. I greet him
at the door and give him a hug, say welcome home.
You know, when my kids were little, the best part
about motherhood was coming in the door from work because
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they would scream and come running up, Mommy, you're home
and they were so happy. Right, same kind of deal.
Make them want to come home because you're there to
greet them. Right. So these warm departures and reunions act
as emotional bookends on your day. Okay, number four, I
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talked about trying to calm things down in the middle
of conflict. Try it. Use a reset phrase during your
next tension, like can we pause? Oh, I'm sorry that
came out wrong. You know I'm actually on your side.
Say it before things escalate, not after, And finally establish
one shared micro ritual. I told you when I prepare dinner,
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my sweet Julio is there. I love to chop. He
puts on a little jazz instrumental music. He lights a candle.
That's our little routine. Right. Find a ritual, whatever it
may be. A coffee, a walk, talking about the show
you just dreamed, recapping the show, a bedtime check in
and go to the gym together, cookie together, whatever it
may be. These rituals create predictability and meaning, and that
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increases perceived commitment in your relationship. And protect these rituals
like an appointment. You know, you don't always need a
relationship overhaul, right, sometimes you just add a few little
micro habits. They might be small, repeatable, emotionally attuned behaviors. Okay,
you can do it. I know you can. When we
come back, I'm heading to my social media. If you
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