OpenAI CEO testified before the Senate yesterday - Handel unpacks some key takeaways and highlights how it will impact our future. Then, companies are beginning to say "diversity and belonging" in place of "diversity and inclusion;" what that means for those in the corporate world. And millions of Americans are willing to donate their organs, but relatively few do.
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Good morning, everybody. Bill Handlehere with the Morning Crew. Some
of the big stories we are coveringis well and this is bad news.
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Drug shortages that we've been talking aboutnow at an all time high. Even
rationing is going to be happening.That's scary, that really is. And
more and more drugs are going tobe rationed. Uh, that's horrible news.
I guess good news for people I'dlike to go to strip clubs.
Strippers at North Hollywood Club are ata North Hollywood club. Strip club are
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forming a union. So for thoseof you that are union members, you
have to go to support member solidarity. You have to support fellow union members,
and there'll be many of you thatwill have no problem supporting the strippers
union. Yesterday in front of Congress, it was a Senate subcommittee. The
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CEO of Open AI and the creatorof the chat GPT sat in front of
the committee. And usually when youhave heads of corporations in front of committees,
oh, they get nailed. Imean, look at the auto industry,
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look at the tobacco industry, eventhe computer industry. When you had
Zuckerberg in Fronday, it was verycontentious, when you had Steve Jobs in
front of them, very contentious.Yesterday was very different. Yesterday. Sam
Altman, who is the CEO ofAI and the creative GGPT, I think
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he's worth some money, testified andit was regarding artificial intelligence AI. And
here is the problem. And everybodyin that room recognized it, and he
recognized it. The guy who createdthe entire industry is scared to death of
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the industry. How often you thinkthat happens? And it reminded me,
and I'm going to jump in hereand blow my own horn. And when
I started dealing with surrogacy and reproductivelaw, one of the things that we
worried about was the fact that thelaw did not keep up with what we
were doing. There was simply nolaw. We were the wild West,
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and we begged for laws to bepassed by the California legislature. And it
took us years and years to getthat because sometimes, especially in the world
of technology, the law just doesn'tjust doesn't catch up. It's the technology
is easier to deal with than thelaw, because you've got hundreds of legislators
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trying to even understand what's happening.And here, how many of these senators
and these guys are over sixty,the average age is over sixty. How
much do they understand of this stuff? I mean, can you imagine sitting
down and getting some kind of explanation, a technological explanation. I mean I
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couldn't do it. I mean Iwouldn't understand this. So you've got a
situation where the fear of what AIcan do goes right to the people who
created AI. And here's something thatI've never seen. Well that's not true,
because I was involved in this infront of California legislature. Here's the
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technology, here are our surrogacy arrangements. Please pass some laws. And years
later they did, And that's thesame thing as happening here. Now.
Mine was a very tiny little areathat didn't affect a lot of people,
and it was just a small nicheBasically when I started, there were dozens
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of people involved. And that's it. Here. You're talking about everybody who
ever touches a computer. This isthe entire world, and the fear is
what can AI do? And thenthey went through the whole list, and
you can think of you can thinkof things on your own, right genitor
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generative AI huge technological leap, andas everybody discussed the problems and the dangers,
you know, it's already being unleashedand the world simply isn't ready for
it. Disinformation, we have that, but in a very deep fake way.
Man very hard to discern what isdisinformation or not misinformations spread by chat
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box that hallucinate or make up facts, just make them up and do it
in a way that you believe thosefacts. Right, the Democrats are abusing
little children under a pizza parlor inChicago, the Democratic Congress people. Okay,
and you'd be surprised how many peoplebelieve that. But taking that and
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putting it out in such a waywith statistics and who's been arrested, and
just this entire scenario that actually convincesyou. Now, obviously, maybe I'm
being a little hyperbolic, maybe not, because facts are made up more subtly
biases that cause people to be discriminatedagainst a very subtle bias. Now we
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already know that there is a biasout there. We just that's who human
beings are, but exploiting that towhere it goes to a much higher level.
That's what AI can do. Themillions of people that are going to
be put out of work we don'teven know. You know. The one
that stunned me the most was theAI program took the state California State bar
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and a pass rate was ninety.There's no school in California that has a
pass rate of ninety, and here'sa program that does. By the way,
the law school I went to isnow out of business because the pass
rate it was so low that noone even went to the school anymore.
Congratulations. And how about the technologiesappetite for data or data it's it's unlimited.
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So people are going to be putout of work by the millions.
I mean, we talked about scriptwritersfor example. AI can create scripts.
Remember that story about Drake where youhad AI create a song sound like him
and you couldn't tell. Boy,it sounds like I mean, it was
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Drake that was singing, but itwas all done by AI. He had
nothing to do with it. Imean, it's scary stuff, even to
the CEO, the creator of chatGPT. Crazy stuff. Now here's something
that actually Anne came up with ourproducer, and that has to do with
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a couple of issues. First ofall, the controversy started with should children
kids under eighteen get birth control withoutparents permission? Yeah, court said absolutely,
you don't need parents permission to walkin and get birth control pills,
especially girls. Guys don't usually dothat. So the court said, yes,
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you can't stop a child for askingfrom birth control. And then it
went to abortion in states that allowedabortion mandatory age to be an adults eighteen.
But wait a minute, how abouta sixteen year old that wants an
abortion? Well that became a littlemore problematic. But here's the reason why
you want to give sixteen year oldsthe ability to undergo an abortion, because
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they're parents for examples, many exampleswere brought to the table. For example,
let's say parents are very religious,or they'll be ostracized or they will
actually be punished hurt by parents andothers if they're forced to undergo a pregnancy.
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So therefore, if they want anabortion, you don't need parental consent
to have an abortion under eighteen.Well, that's sort of a given.
Now you want to hear a funone go to school Let's say you're a
junior in high school. You canget an abortion, but they won't give
you an aspirin. No, no, we can't give you an aspirin.
But school nurse, I have aheadache, doesn't matter. We're not going
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to give you an aspirin, notwithout your parents consent. So that gets
ridiculous. So let me tell youwhat's going on. This is out of
the Wall Street Journal. While allthat is going on, there is now
a story, and this is hugelycontroversial. Hormonal treatments, gender reastigment treatments
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for kids under the age of eighteen. Now that one is at real issue.
So I happen to believe that thereis a percentage of people in our
society who are born into the wrongbodies. I've known people that are trans,
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I have my kids have friends thatare trans. I know people who
work that are trans. And clearly, I mean, it isn't just one
of those oh boy, today,I'm going to be a woman kind of
thing. I mean, it isa fairly long procedure in which psychology is
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involved, and the issue is canyou do it before you're the age of
majority parental consent. It's going inthat direction it is. Society has decided
that if you are trans, andit's much more difficult because you talk about
permanent. It's kind of it's kindof hard to deal with that. If
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you're a man becoming a woman andyou have your fruit package removed, man,
it is hard to reattach it.You can undo the hormones, that's
not a problem, but the restof it is hard. I mean,
it's pretty permanent, and so there'sa lot of controversy. But I'll tell
you where it's leaning. Yep,because if you come out and again I've
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talked to many people that are gaycoming from religious backgrounds. I mean they're
done and their family and friends inchurch coming out. So it's a whole
new life. And a whole newlife means moving to a moving to a
state or a city where is simplyaccepted that you are trans. San Francisco,
you think they care. Yeah,Now with that in mind, the
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Wall Street Journal says that there issomething there's a First Amendment issue, by
the way, the First Amendment issuehas to deal with this, and you
go, what is that about?Well, to establish a sexuality and to
say I am now a woman versusa man, I'm going through all of
this is a First Amendment issue becauseyou are stating you are making a statement
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as to who you are, andyou're allowed to do that. Now,
how far does that go. Well, it looks like a transgender surgery seems
to be part of that group.Now, but I'll tell you what has
not changed. If a kid undereighteen wants to get a tattoo, that's
illegal. Most states will not allowthat, to the point where Illinois,
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for example, if a kid undereighteen walks into a tattoo parlor, the
tattoo or the person who is givingthe tattoo can go to prison. It's
that illegal. And you go,wait a minute, how is that possible?
How does that work? And thatis one of the discrepancy and contradictions
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in law, and that is notchanging. There is no movement out there
for kids to get tattoos. Certainstates allow it. You've got states that
it breaks down. Some red states, some Blue states have absolute bands on
tattoos talking about permanent tattoos on kids. As a matter of fact, the
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Blue states are the most stringent.California, Washington a crime to tattoo any
minor under eighteen. As I said, Illinois. That's crazy. And we're
not talking about just light sentences either. I mean it can be a felony.
In even the word it's a misdemeanor. It's generally a class A,
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which is the most offensive or themost serious misdemeanor. And for example,
talking about back we go to genderaffirming medical care for children. You've got
the American Medical Association, the AmericanAcademy of Pediatrics, the American Psychiatric Association,
the American Academy of Child and AdolescentPsychiatry. I mean, all of
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them have spoken out against laws thatrestrict gender affirming medical care for kids.
They are in favor of gender affirmingmedical care. All of these organizations,
these medical organizations, that child psychiatricorganizations, are saying we have to let
kids undergo gender affirming surgery under eighteen. Now I'm assuming with the proper guidelines,
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because no doctor in the world isjust going to just do it.
Hi. I woke up this morning, doc, and I want to be
a woman. Okay, your appointmentis next Tuesday for the gender changing surgery.
It doesn't work. I mean,these are we have to accept the
fact these are kids who have gonethrough the proper the proper hoops and I
believe in it need peril parental consentfor this. That's the problem. Kins
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can't doing this on their own.By the way, all of these organizations,
every one of them, not one, has come out on the tattooing
issue. They're fine. But waita minute, you're you don't want tattooing
that should be against the law withminers. Yeah, that's true, that's
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how we believe. But you're okaywith gender changing surgery. Explain that one
to me, Lucy. It's justa contradiction that exists and my daughter.
At some point, I'll tell youthe story about my daughter getting her tattoo,
and it's a hell of a story, but I'm going to save that
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for the next time we do atattoo story. I want to spend a
couple of minutes talking about diversity andinclusion. Now I look at this and
a lot of this is woke.Where I have a real problem saying we
have to look the history of thiscountry and where we are society through the
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eyes of the racism that has beenpart of America from the time we were
founded. By the way we werefounded on a concept of racism. The
first blacks that came to this countrywere slaves. There were no indigenous black
people in the United States or whatthen was the New World, and so
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the history of particularly African Americans hasbeen very, very tough. I mean
that this is the original sin ofthis country is racism, and then it
became much more subtle because we hadthe Civil Rights movement. And there are
a lot of people that are arguing, well, we're still in the same
level of racism. We're not,and they say, well, it's more
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insidious, it isn't. I mean, there have been huge stride. Oh
is there enough? Yeah? Isthere enough issues with diversity? Yeah,
there is, and we've dealt withit a bunch. Affirmative action in the
courts have dealt with that. Amatter of fact, is one of the
things I study in law school.The whole issue of the original Baki decision
with the University of California having todo with reverse discrimination. So there is
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a legitimacy. I believe to theargument that there's bias and quote wokeism,
but you can go too far onthat, you really can, and I
think it has gone too far.So I'm going to give you a story
about something that on its face.You go. For those of you that
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think that it's gone too far,please come on, guys, but you
go, you look at you go. Okay, you know what this may
actually work. So this is abouta company called Woodward. It's about one
hundred and fifty years old, andit white male management. A matter of
fact, into the nineties, theyhad to wear bow ties management, if
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you can imagine that. So PaulBenson, the company's chief human resource officers,
knew that there we have to createsomething. I mean, it's hard
to have a company that doesn't havesome kind of diversity training. So he
wanted to create a diversity, equityinclusion program. And he knew that it's
going to be a shift because hesaid, we're a lily white leadership,
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a team of old males. Andso he said, people want to feel
like they belong. I mean hecaught it. I mean he got the
issue. People want to feel likethey belong. And if you're a minority,
if you're a woman, certainly,if you're let's say gay, it's
hard to feel like you belong inmany, many, many companies. So
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he talked about people wanting to feellike they belong. They want to come
to work and not feel they haveto check themselves at the door, which
a lot of people do, particularlygay people, you know, if they
have not come out of the closet. They come into work and they're checking
out their gainness at the door andwalking in and being non gay becoming straight.
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So last summer, Benson started searchingfor a diversity consultant. He wanted
to find an expert. So hegoes to Google as a search and the
search leads him to a black comedianand a former media personality, Keareth Foster.
She's the chief executive of this inversitySolution, a consultancy company that well,
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it takes diversity training. Now canyou imagine this? The word is
traditional diversity training. It's gotten tothat point where diversity training is reached a
level where it is now part andparcel of what companies do. And so
he wanted someone or she has thisconsultancy that rethinks diversity training from the get
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go. And she said companies haveto address racism, sexism, homophobia,
anti semitism in the workplace. Okay, traditional argument why you want diversity,
but goes on and says, butwait a minute, you know we have
to look at it in a wholedifferent way. You cannot overemphasize identity groups
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and a tendency to reduce people tovictim and villain, which, when you
think about it, that's exactly whatdiversity training is. Certainly the wokeism that
is sweeping the country. If you'relooking at looking at the United States through
history and the racism and the bias, and that is the only way we
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look at the history of this country. It's clearly victim and villain. I
mean, that's it. And sheargues, you know what, that alienates
everybody. So she comes up withher approach and says, hey, you
know what, we have to alloweveryone to make mistakes, that's all,
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and deal with it. So sheends up getting the keynote address at the
leadership somewhat of this company in October. And here's what she did. And
it's an exercise she did which Ilooked at and go, yeah that you
know, I'd hired this woman ina heartbeat. So she takes the stage.
She asks everyone to close their eyesand raise their hands in response to
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a series of questions, have youever locked the car when a black man
walked by? Had you thought,yeah, Jewish people are really good with
money. By the way, antisemitic and absolutely true. Had you questioned
the intelligence of someone with a thickSouthern accent who doesn't do that outside of
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the South. Hey, y'all,let's get ourselves some fried chicken, and
let's get ourselves some cornpone. Bythe way, what is cornpone? I
have no idea. I have noidea besides delicious? What is it?
I think it's like a corn meal. It's kind of like yeah, yeah.
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And grits. I mean I hadgrits once once. Who the hell
eats this? You do? Ofcourse you do? Jason? Who eats
POI? I mean, come on, wallpaper paste, and what do you
do put a little sugar in it? I mean people eat that stuff?
So, uh, you think ofSoutherners as just not being very smart just
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by reason of their accent? Youthink that's some bias. So I would
raise my hand to that question.So she's on the stage. She does
a keynote for one year and askseveryone close your eyes, and then starts
asking questions. You ever walked thecar when a black man walked by?
I wants to ask Jesse Jackson,uh, does he have a problem?
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And he said, yeah. IfI'm night and three black men are walking
past, I go across the street. Jesse Jackson said that to me,
that's the bias that exists. Andare Jews really good with money? Okay,
good question, answers yes, Andasked just a bunch of questions about
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that, and everybody's eyes closed,and as she asked the questions, people
started raising their hands in terms ofwhat they thought. She answered a couple
of questions by raising her hands.Everybody in the room raised their hands at
some point regarding bias. And whatshe asked is how many people do not
feel good about themselves admitting to bias? Most said yeah, I'm not particularly
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thrilled abound. She says, that'sthe problem with diversity training right now,
because people at work should feel likethey belong and management should feel like management
belongs. And it really is onehappy Comebay company, but it really isn't
There is some legitimacy to this.And you say, what is the problem.
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One of the big issues, especiallya pandemic, is do you belong
at your company? I mean,that's the first thing, but not belonging
as is you've been hired. Butlet me give you an example which she
brings up, and that is,let's say you're in a group where you
are gay and you don't know whatyour co workers think of you, and
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what you tend to do is thencheck your gayness at the door, and
you walk in as a straight maleor female, and so it's not you,
it's what they expect you to be. And now the changes come,
Hey, it is who I am, and then want to and ask to
be accepted. At the same time, management is looking at you and I
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want you to belong And I gotto be very careful here because you know,
I'm not a big fan of holdinghands Kumbaya. Let's all get married
in front of a tree and oursnacks will be twigs coming off that tree.
This it can get pretty close tothat. But if you know where
to draw the line, I thinkthis makes a lot of sense. And
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this question of belonging is the focus, the latest focus in this evolving world
of corporate diversity, equity inclusion.That's the programs as well. Interest in
all of this actually started the murderof George Floyd. George Floyd changed a
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lot of things. The murder ofGeorge Floyd changed a lot of things,
and one of them. You wouldn'tthink usually you think of policing for example.
It also has crept into corporate thinking. And what it does is her
boat into corporate thinking. And thisis one that there are tons of companies
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that are not even referring to themselvesas inclusive. They're using the word belonging.
Tells you how far companies have gone. Now are there critics? Of
course there are critics, and thecritics are saying, this is all about
making white people comfortable. So thereforeI guess we shouldn't do it right.
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It is you're not addressing systematic inequality. You're not going to the core of
this problem. So if you happento be a company of fifty employees or
one hundred employees, this bs oftrying to belong. Hey, go after
the real cause, go after systematicFor example, of granting of loans,
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you should go into the you shouldgo into the lending area. And instead
of manufacturing your widget, you shouldstart a bank and not redline. That
should be part of You should bea chief of police and make sure that
people are treated the same and there'sno racism. Yeah, okay, thank
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you critics. Don't you love it? You know the critics of the police.
There shouldn't be a police department becausethere's bias. Only social workers should
go out and be police people.I mean, you can go crazy.
So all right, you got thecrazies out there that it's about making white
people comfortable, But you know whatit is about making white people comfortable with
accepting the fact that the bias exists. And if everybody attacks it the same
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way, it's better than not.Makes sense to me, it really does.
And she says that is a practicalmatter. There's never going to be
equality or equity if people in powerstraight white mails are excluded from the conversation.
And again, the argument that thepolice should be defunded, well not
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even defunded, should be completely dealt, done away with, because the argument
is think about this. So peoplethat are saying that we want the police
defunded, we don't want the policeinvolved in the conversation. They have no
business being in that conversation. It'sall about what we think. We do
not want the police to do ABCand D. And not only do we
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want that, we don't want themto even comment on it. We just
want them to go ahead and dowhat we think is going to happen.
So we still have diversity among thinking, but you're going to see more and
more of this as companies don't eventhe word inclusion, not even the word
is now belonging. Okay, goodfor them. Now Danny Masterson is on
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trial for ray being three women betweentwo thousand and one two thousand and three,
and of course Dannie Masterson, asyou know, was one of the
big star of the seventies show.That seventies show was I didn't know it
ran for eight years. That isa hugely successful show. So he's a
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defendant. He already there was ahung jury the first time out, and
so now there's a second trial.And sometimes prosecutors go ahead and they retry,
sometimes they don't. Fairly high profiletries or very high profile trials generally
go forward on a second go round, and certainly this is pretty high profile.
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So since he is a scientologist,he was born into the church of
scientology, and since the girls,the women are also scientologists, the trial
is not only about Danny Masterson,it's also about scientology and the scientologs or
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Danny Master was able to keep alot of the scientology aspect of this sort
of out the first trial, andjudges on the second trial was going,
we're going to let a lot ofit in which, of course, is
Danny Master loses, he gets convicted, then it's going to be appealed,
probably on that basis. So theDA talks about him and says, like
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all predators, the defendant carefully soughtout his prey. Most of his victims
members of the Church of Scientology,and the church tells his victims rape isn't
rape. You've caused this, andabove all, you do not go to
law enforcement. The church course deniesthat, and you would expect them to.
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Church has been attacked, probably moreso than any other religion because I
think if you want to call ita religion, a lot of people think
it's not a religion at all.And the history of Scientology is it's fascinating.
People deride l Ron Hubbard like crazy, and I have been to the
Quote Celebrity Center and it's really quotes, and there's a museum of l.
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Ron Hubbard over there, and alot of people think the guy's just a
quack. I have to tell you, anybody who starts a religion and creates
something like the Church of Scientology maybea quack. But that's a lot of
people are saying he's very, verybright, and I put myself in that
category. Also, he wrote hundredsof novels, thousands of articles, I
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mean, all science fiction, weirdstuff, but a really fascinating eye to
say the least. So that's anaside. So it's been six years since
Masterson was publicly accused of assaulting thethree women in his home in the Hollywood
Hills between two thousand and two thousandand three, and at that time he
was at the height of his famebecause he was one of the stars of
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the seventies show and the accusers accusedhim of basically drugging them with roy hipno
state rape that they although that hasn'tbeen proved. They simply talk about what
the symptoms were. We were unconsciousin and out, didn't really understand what
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was happening, didn't know where wewere, didn't remember a lot. One
of them is Chrissy b. Wedon't have her last name, and she
was Masterson's longtime girlfriend and she testifiedto repeated abuse. Now only one of
which is actually at the cause ofthis trial, or at the point of
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this trial. Masterson is denied allwrongdoing. He didn't testify at either trial.
No witnesses were presented by his team. Actually, the defense attorneys have
largely relied on cross examination, anargument much like what Trump has done in
his trial for defamation. No witnesses, no defense, just attacking the accuser.
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Well, this happened the same way, all right. That was the
President speak very short comments and ithad very little to do with his trip
in the G seven he in Japan. He mentioned it a little bit,
but for the most part he talkedabout this looming debt ceiling. I'm not
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gonna use the word debacle, buti gotta tell you, if it turns
out that the Congress does not voteto extend, increase the borrowing that we
have to do in order to payour bills, we're hearing Janet Yellen,
Treasury Secretary, as well as economistsall over the world, and political leaders
and leaders of both government as wellas the private sector are saying we're in
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a world of hurt. The worldlooks at the dollar, or as the
juggernaut. The world's basic currency isthe dollar. Everything is paid in dollars.
Just give you an example, theprice of oil, which of course
is a worldwide commodity. You knowwhat it is. You'll hear it in
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dollars all over the world. It'sin dollars. The value of virtually everything,
economies, etc. Are in dollars. I mean, that's how important
the dollar is. And even thoughwe're through the roof in terms of inflation
and in terms of debt, deficitspending which is now a trillion dollars a
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year drives everybody nuts. And thenthe President, he was so disingenuous just
now. And I'll tell you aboutthat in a minute. God, I
love the way he looks at things. That's every administration does that. The
point is, if we do notallow ourselves to borrow the money, and
that's increased the debt ceiling in orderto pay bills that have already been incurred,
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what ends up happening is the economyof the United States is looked at
in a very different way. It'sno longer the rock that it has been
for generations, especially since World WarTwo when the United States owned the world,
because all of the other major countriesthat are now huge economies were devastated.
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Russia was devastated, Japan was devastated, Germany was devastated. I mean
there was nothing left except the UnitedStates. So of course we were on
top of the world. And ifwe don't allow ourselves to borrow the money,
then, as Janet Yellen says,it becomes catastrophic. So what ends
up happening, Well, first ofall, the bond when we do borrow
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money, we're going to pay ahigher interest rate because we're not considered as
good a risk. Our FICO scoredrops dramatically. The faith and credit of
the United States, which is consideredprobably the most powerful statement of faith and
credit. Faith and credit is whatthe government says is backing, you know,
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to our dollars. I mean youlook at that piece of paper.
I mean how much you think thatpiece of paper is worth? When you
look at the money we have inthe bank, we don't have money in
the bank. Most of it isloaned out. It is the faith and
credit of the United States that holdseverything up, not the dollars, not
the gold, not the amount ofmoney that's in banks, not the amount
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of Treasury bills that are out thereand the government owes money to It's everybody
believing that the United States is thejuggernaut and the basis of our world economy
all of a sudden that drops dramatically, and then we default, which means
we won't have the money to paybills that we've already incurred, which is
very different than the deficit every year, which of course just goes on and
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on, and that's a given.I mean, our deficit now is a
trillion dollars a year. I mean, it's just completely crazy. We actually
a trillion dollars more than we havemoney coming in. And the only way
we can continue to pay the billsis allowing ourselves. This is by law,
allowing ourselves to borrow the money byselling treasury bills, and then we
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pay interest on it, and everybody'sa happy camper. And the inability to
borrow that you're dead. For example, you're paying you spend more money than
you do. You bring in onehundred thousand dollars a year, you spend
one hundred and twenty thousand dollars ayear. So what you do is you
keep on borrowing money to pay tocover the expenses of one hundred and twenty
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thousand. So you need an extratwenty grand every year, and so you
borrow it. And if you borrowit, indefinitely. You're going to be
able to pay your bills. Nowit's going to cost you interest. You're
not going to live as well asyou could, but you'll have the money
if your credit is cut off andyou are not allowed to borrow any more
money. So here you have ahundred thousand dollars coming in, a hundred
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and twenty thousand dollars that you arespending, plus the money that you have
borrowed before, and you can't getmoney to pay it off. That is
your debt. That's the national debtwe're talking about, and it's all going
to go into the toilet. That'sthe worst. We're talking about jobs being
lost by the millions. We're talkingabout the faith in the United States as
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one of I wouldn't even say oneof the great rocks. It is the
rock of the world economy. Andit's all being done because of politics.
Also have to tell you that inthe world of debt, what Joe Biden
wants is a clean bill, whichmeans you don't attach it to anything.
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It's just we owe more money,we have to borrow more money. Therefore,
here you go President, and hereyou go economy. We Congress law
control this, We're gonna let youhave it, no strings attached. For
the first time, we have theRepublicans saying our strings attached. If you
don't cut the budget, we're notgoing to give you the ability to borrow
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money. All you talk about playingchicken on this one. Since the sixties,
I think forty eight times that we'veborrowed that we've extended the debt ceiling.
There has never been a case everwhere politics were attached to the vote
to extend or increase the debt ceiling. Never first time. And this is
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what the Republicans are bringing to thetable and saying, if you don't agree
to cut expenditure, no chance,we won't pass it. Interestingly enough,
when Donald Trump was president and doingthe same thing, there was no issue.
The Republicans passed it, saying fine, you know what, of course,
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of course, will increase the debtceiling. That's the politics of it.
That's where we've come to. Sonow the disingenuousness that I was telling
you about earlier, the President sayswe are going to cut the expenditures.
We're going to cut our spending bythree point one trillion dollars over the next
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ten years, and last year hecut it. I don't know whatever,
how many trillion that's against the biggestexpenditure we've ever had in terms of dollars
in the history of the United States. I'm willing to bet that the last
time the government went into that muchdebt and spent more money as a result
of more percentage of the economy wasWorld War Two, when the entire country
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became a win on a war footing. I don't think we've borrowed this much
since then. And World War Two, well, I mean, we became
a war economy, the whole country, everybody was part of the war effort.
And so we'll see who blinks.I'm hoping that it's Kevin McCarthy who
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blinks, because here is the problem. If it turns out that he wins
and the president in case and Idon't care what president, I don't care
what party, all of a sudden, the ability to borrow the money and
pay our bills now is predicated onwhichever power is. Whichever party is in
power, we're prepared to let theentire economy of this country go into the
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toilet if you don't agree to whatwe want. In this case, it
is for example, cutting expenditure.What if it was the other way around.
What if it's a Democratic Congress andRepublican president and the argument is,
we want more entitlement programs, wewant more money for libraries, we want
to increase social security more so thanwhat the law allows now. And if
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you don't give that to us,we're not going to let We're not going
to vote the debt ceiling into effect. It's pretty scary, it really is.
Oh, if that sets the president, we are, yeah, we
are screwed. And they're talking aboutsome kind of a compromise. I hope
not. I hope McCarthy just comesback and goes, Okay, I'm willing
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to talk, but not on thedebt ceiling. That's what's going on.
That's what he's dealing with, andthat's why the President is cutting short his
visit. So right after the Gseven summit, he is not going to
Australia, is not going to PapuaNew Guinea. He is coming right back
to Washington and engaging in those talksa topic that I have felt very strongly
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about, that I actually have feltstrongly about since I've been sixteen years old.
And how did it go back thatfar Well. I remember when you
got your driver's license, you couldget a card at the back of your
driver's license that was fixed like apost it note, theft a little stronger
and says I want to be anorgan donor. And in those days it
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listed what organs you wanted to give, or all of them or any exclusions.
And then remember the red dot cameand you're an organ donor, or
you're not an organ donor. AndI've had that on my driver's license since
I've been sixteen years old. That'show important it is for me an organ
donation. To me, the factthat thousands upon thousands of people die every
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single year for lack of organs isI find astounding. And there is a
Yiddish word for humiliating and just ashame beyond a shame. It's called shanda.
It is a shonda that this thatpeople are denied organ donor simply because
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de died organs, simply because thereare no enough organ donors. I haven't
answered this, by the way,just let you know I've talked about this
for years. I actually have ananswer to undo all of that. We
could literally have every person, Soit needs an organ starting tomorrow receive organs.
So let me tell you about acompany. It's called One Legacy and
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it's a Zuza local company. Andhere people are sitting on beds or lying
on beds with ventilators and artificial lifemachines going on, and they're effectively kind
of dead. And see, youthink it's a hospital. One Legacy is
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not a hospital. It happens tobe the largest organ procurement organization in the
country. And the kidneys and liversand other organs that these three bodies,
keep in mind, these bodies arethey're sitting there and just waiting for the
organs to be retrieved and sent intosomeone else. You've got three people who
could save the lives of up totwenty four people, the kidneys and livers,
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lungs. And the fact is therearen't enough people like this who end
up in spots like this. That'sthe shame of it. And why well,
you would think it's not enough peopledon't eat, But there's all other
parts of this too. Doctors havingfigured out a way to how to retrieve
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organs from the vast majority of dyingpatients because they're not able to convince enough
people to give up their body parts. Now I have a question to ask
you. There you are and you'redead. You really need your organs.
Boy, that's important, isn't it. What you've got to be. You
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have to be mummified and your hearthas to be put in some albums in
some jar that goes next to youwhen you're buried. Come on, now,
there are certain religious groups that don'tallow organs to be removed from the
body. Religious Jews, for example, don't are not allowed to. The
Jewish religion doesn't allow it. Ithink Islam also doesn't allow it. But
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for the rest of people, comeon, give me a break. You
know, I'm I'm an organ ownerup and dow on the street. So
that is one of the problems isdoctors figuring out a way to tell people
or to convince them, because usuallysomeone has to be convinced or family member
has to be convinced. Again,I'm going to tell you how I can
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undo this. I have the answer. So we have a waiting list,
and there's a whole world to that. And even though the number of organs
since I think twenty twelve or whateverhas increased by fifty percent, the number
of people on the waiting list toget organs has increased even more. Right
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now, there are more than onehundred thousand people in the country on transplant
waiting lists as of January. Everyten minutes someone is added every day.
According to the FEDS, seventeen peopleon the waiting list die because they can't
get organs, livers, hearts.So how do you become an egg an
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organ donor? Well, you signup, But that's the easiest part because
there's a whole bunch of rules outthere that exists in terms of how your
organs can or cannot help someone.One depends on how healthy your organs are.
Two depends on how you died.I mean, is their injury.
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I mean the best organ donors areheard of. Doctor Ones tell me this.
I thought he was joking, Butno, gang bangers who get their
heads blown off because their organs aregreat. They're young, they're healthy,
they're in their twenties. Okay,not bad. And Latinos are very high
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on the giving of the organ story. It's whites and Latinos who give the
most highest percentage. African Americans arethe lowest percentage. African Americans are just
not big into organ donation, sothere are a bunch of conditions that disqualify
you from quoting living donation or adeceased donation. Do you have a cancer,
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Okay, you're gonna gone, damagefrom diabetes, high blood pressure,
tumors. If they discover you havesome problems, you're gone. Patient's age
is important. The younger you are, the healthier you are. And then
maybe the biggest limit is how quicklyorgans deterior rate outside the body or even
inside the bad a body after theheart stops speeding. So when organs are
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just deprived of the blood oxygenated bloodfor more than twenty thirty minutes, they
become too damaged, can't be transplanted. And no one's actually solved that medical
riddle yet, how do we getthat going? So kidneys, livers,
vital organs taking only from patients whodie in a hospital. You die at
home, you're done as an organdonor. You have to die in a
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hospital. And basically one percent ofthe almost three million people who die in
hospitals each year even fit into thatcategory. So it's all registered, it's
all it's all determined by federal government. So hospitals notify their regional donation centers
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when they have a patient who hasdied or is about to die at this
one company. I tell you aboutan Azuza, which is the biggest organ
transplant center and it's not a hospital, but people die there. Staffers use
information from the doctors to identify potentialdonors, meet with family members and start
discussing. You've seen those TV shows, haven't you where the hospitals you know,
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the doctors would involved sit down withthe family members saying, hey,
you know what your family members aboutto die? Would you consider an organ
donor? And you save people,etc. I mean, we've seen all
those and so once they get yeahand yes, and sometimes they say no.
Now what does the law say?Family members can decide unless the patient
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has written a directive or has writtenyou a legal document. I want my
organs donated. And how many peopledo that? So a dead body can
spend two or three days hooked upto pumps before the organs are ultimately removed,
and then the organs once removed orpackage Usually they take people off life
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support and so the organs are packaged. They go over to ups and you
know they have package them for you, as you know, in those boxes,
and then they're put into igloos theigloo containers as well, insulated and
on ice, and they're usually flown. If it's not a hospital really near
where the transplant takes place, thehelicopter flies them to the nearest center a
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half hour flight or whatever, andhere we go. Kidneys can last twenty
four to thirty six hours outside thebody, liver six to eight hours,
a heart or a lung only threeto four hours, so they have to
move fairly quickly. And then it'swhere you are, how sick you are,
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and a lot of it is simplythe role of the dice, and
that is the problem. And thenthe argument is if the doctors want to
donate your organs or you have adirective, then the argument is, well,
why they want you to die sothey can get the organs out of
there. I'd love that argument.And then Ann came up with that and
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actually said, why would they wantyou to die more than they want the
organ transplant to live? Why whyhave they made that choice that somewhat you
die and the other one doesn't.I haven't quite figured that out yet.
And then the cost of this stuffis unbelievable. The average medical bill for
transplants four hundred and forty thousand fora kidney, eight hundred and eighty thousand
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for a liver, one point twomillion dollars for intestines, and one point
seven million dollars for a heart.Pretty impressive. Okay, So the question
do I have the answer? Ido? And what is the answer the
law? We pass a law thatsays you are an an organ donor unless
you opt out. In other words, you have to decide not to be
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an organ donor. Otherwise the presumptionis that you are how many people?
How many people do you think wouldbe organ donors? Just because they haven't
written it in, they haven't decidedAm I an organ donor? As I
said, since I've been sixteen yearsold? Now you know, if I
last another ten years and I'm onmy deathbed and my kids are waiting for
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me to go because they think thatthey're going to get all the money,
I'm probably not going to be eligibleto give one of my organs. So
the doctors are going, nah,you know, we really don't care.
You guys decide what to do withhim. Okay, all of that.
I love this topic and have ifI've been listening to this show for any
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amount of time years. I'm sortof fanatic about this and have been just
one of my pet peeves. Allright, coming up, it's Gary and
Shannon right here and Gary, what'sgoing on today on your show? Well,
quite a quite a kerfuffle last nightin New York City. Apparently Harry
and Meghan were chased by paparazzi.So we'll hear from the statement from the
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royal's own spokesperson about what happened andthen police say wasn't really a big deal.
Also, Debt ceiling talk. DianeFeinstein is old, John Fetterman sounds
old. And Target is closing abunch of stores because of robberies, they
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Good morning, everybody. Bill Handlehere with the Morning Crew. Some
of the big stories we are coveringis well and this is bad news.
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Drug shortages that we've been talking aboutnow at an all time high. Even
rationing is going to be happening.That's scary, that really is. And
more and more drugs are going tobe rationed. Uh, that's horrible news.
I guess good news for people I'dlike to go to strip clubs.
Strippers at North Hollywood Club are ata North Hollywood club. Strip club are
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forming a union. So for thoseof you that are union members, you
have to go to support member solidarity. You have to support fellow union members,
and there'll be many of you thatwill have no problem supporting the strippers
union. Yesterday in front of Congress, it was a Senate subcommittee. The
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CEO of Open AI and the creatorof the chat GPT sat in front of
the committee. And usually when youhave heads of corporations in front of committees,
oh, they get nailed. Imean, look at the auto industry,
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look at the tobacco industry, eventhe computer industry. When you had
Zuckerberg in Fronday, it was verycontentious, when you had Steve Jobs in
front of them, very contentious.Yesterday was very different. Yesterday. Sam
Altman, who is the CEO ofAI and the creative GGPT, I think
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he's worth some money, testified andit was regarding artificial intelligence AI. And
here is the problem. And everybodyin that room recognized it, and he
recognized it. The guy who createdthe entire industry is scared to death of
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the industry. How often you thinkthat happens? And it reminded me,
and I'm going to jump in hereand blow my own horn. And when
I started dealing with surrogacy and reproductivelaw, one of the things that we
worried about was the fact that thelaw did not keep up with what we
were doing. There was simply nolaw. We were the wild West,
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and we begged for laws to bepassed by the California legislature. And it
took us years and years to getthat because sometimes, especially in the world
of technology, the law just doesn'tjust doesn't catch up. It's the technology
is easier to deal with than thelaw, because you've got hundreds of legislators
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trying to even understand what's happening.And here, how many of these senators
and these guys are over sixty,the average age is over sixty. How
much do they understand of this stuff? I mean, can you imagine sitting
down and getting some kind of explanation, a technological explanation. I mean I
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couldn't do it. I mean Iwouldn't understand this. So you've got a
situation where the fear of what AIcan do goes right to the people who
created AI. And here's something thatI've never seen. Well that's not true,
because I was involved in this infront of California legislature. Here's the
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technology, here are our surrogacy arrangements. Please pass some laws. And years
later they did, And that's thesame thing as happening here. Now.
Mine was a very tiny little areathat didn't affect a lot of people,
and it was just a small nicheBasically when I started, there were dozens
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of people involved. And that's it. Here. You're talking about everybody who
ever touches a computer. This isthe entire world, and the fear is
what can AI do? And thenthey went through the whole list, and
you can think of you can thinkof things on your own, right genitor
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generative AI huge technological leap, andas everybody discussed the problems and the dangers,
you know, it's already being unleashedand the world simply isn't ready for
it. Disinformation, we have that, but in a very deep fake way.
Man very hard to discern what isdisinformation or not misinformations spread by chat
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box that hallucinate or make up facts, just make them up and do it
in a way that you believe thosefacts. Right, the Democrats are abusing
little children under a pizza parlor inChicago, the Democratic Congress people. Okay,
and you'd be surprised how many peoplebelieve that. But taking that and
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putting it out in such a waywith statistics and who's been arrested, and
just this entire scenario that actually convincesyou. Now, obviously, maybe I'm
being a little hyperbolic, maybe not, because facts are made up more subtly
biases that cause people to be discriminatedagainst a very subtle bias. Now we
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already know that there is a biasout there. We just that's who human
beings are, but exploiting that towhere it goes to a much higher level.
That's what AI can do. Themillions of people that are going to
be put out of work we don'teven know. You know. The one
that stunned me the most was theAI program took the state California State bar
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and a pass rate was ninety.There's no school in California that has a
pass rate of ninety, and here'sa program that does. By the way,
the law school I went to isnow out of business because the pass
rate it was so low that noone even went to the school anymore.
Congratulations. And how about the technologiesappetite for data or data it's it's unlimited.
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So people are going to be putout of work by the millions.
I mean, we talked about scriptwritersfor example. AI can create scripts.
Remember that story about Drake where youhad AI create a song sound like him
and you couldn't tell. Boy,it sounds like I mean, it was
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Drake that was singing, but itwas all done by AI. He had
nothing to do with it. Imean, it's scary stuff, even to
the CEO, the creator of chatGPT. Crazy stuff. Now here's something
that actually Anne came up with ourproducer, and that has to do with
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a couple of issues. First ofall, the controversy started with should children
kids under eighteen get birth control withoutparents permission? Yeah, court said absolutely,
you don't need parents permission to walkin and get birth control pills,
especially girls. Guys don't usually dothat. So the court said, yes,
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you can't stop a child for askingfrom birth control. And then it
went to abortion in states that allowedabortion mandatory age to be an adults eighteen.
But wait a minute, how abouta sixteen year old that wants an
abortion? Well that became a littlemore problematic. But here's the reason why
you want to give sixteen year oldsthe ability to undergo an abortion, because
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they're parents for examples, many exampleswere brought to the table. For example,
let's say parents are very religious,or they'll be ostracized or they will
actually be punished hurt by parents andothers if they're forced to undergo a pregnancy.
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So therefore, if they want anabortion, you don't need parental consent
to have an abortion under eighteen.Well, that's sort of a given.
Now you want to hear a funone go to school Let's say you're a
junior in high school. You canget an abortion, but they won't give
you an aspirin. No, no, we can't give you an aspirin.
But school nurse, I have aheadache, doesn't matter. We're not going
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to give you an aspirin, notwithout your parents consent. So that gets
ridiculous. So let me tell youwhat's going on. This is out of
the Wall Street Journal. While allthat is going on, there is now
a story, and this is hugelycontroversial. Hormonal treatments, gender reastigment treatments
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for kids under the age of eighteen. Now that one is at real issue.
So I happen to believe that thereis a percentage of people in our
society who are born into the wrongbodies. I've known people that are trans,
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I have my kids have friends thatare trans. I know people who
work that are trans. And clearly, I mean, it isn't just one
of those oh boy, today,I'm going to be a woman kind of
thing. I mean, it isa fairly long procedure in which psychology is
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involved, and the issue is canyou do it before you're the age of
majority parental consent. It's going inthat direction it is. Society has decided
that if you are trans, andit's much more difficult because you talk about
permanent. It's kind of it's kindof hard to deal with that. If
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you're a man becoming a woman andyou have your fruit package removed, man,
it is hard to reattach it.You can undo the hormones, that's
not a problem, but the restof it is hard. I mean,
it's pretty permanent, and so there'sa lot of controversy. But I'll tell
you where it's leaning. Yep,because if you come out and again I've
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talked to many people that are gaycoming from religious backgrounds. I mean they're
done and their family and friends inchurch coming out. So it's a whole
new life. And a whole newlife means moving to a moving to a
state or a city where is simplyaccepted that you are trans. San Francisco,
you think they care. Yeah,Now with that in mind, the
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Wall Street Journal says that there issomething there's a First Amendment issue, by
the way, the First Amendment issuehas to deal with this, and you
go, what is that about?Well, to establish a sexuality and to
say I am now a woman versusa man, I'm going through all of
this is a First Amendment issue becauseyou are stating you are making a statement
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as to who you are, andyou're allowed to do that. Now,
how far does that go. Well, it looks like a transgender surgery seems
to be part of that group.Now, but I'll tell you what has
not changed. If a kid undereighteen wants to get a tattoo, that's
illegal. Most states will not allowthat, to the point where Illinois,
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for example, if a kid undereighteen walks into a tattoo parlor, the
tattoo or the person who is givingthe tattoo can go to prison. It's
that illegal. And you go,wait a minute, how is that possible?
How does that work? And thatis one of the discrepancy and contradictions
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in law, and that is notchanging. There is no movement out there
for kids to get tattoos. Certainstates allow it. You've got states that
it breaks down. Some red states, some Blue states have absolute bands on
tattoos talking about permanent tattoos on kids. As a matter of fact, the
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Blue states are the most stringent.California, Washington a crime to tattoo any
minor under eighteen. As I said, Illinois. That's crazy. And we're
not talking about just light sentences either. I mean it can be a felony.
In even the word it's a misdemeanor. It's generally a class A,
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which is the most offensive or themost serious misdemeanor. And for example,
talking about back we go to genderaffirming medical care for children. You've got
the American Medical Association, the AmericanAcademy of Pediatrics, the American Psychiatric Association,
the American Academy of Child and AdolescentPsychiatry. I mean, all of
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them have spoken out against laws thatrestrict gender affirming medical care for kids.
They are in favor of gender affirmingmedical care. All of these organizations,
these medical organizations, that child psychiatricorganizations, are saying we have to let
kids undergo gender affirming surgery under eighteen. Now I'm assuming with the proper guidelines,
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because no doctor in the world isjust going to just do it.
Hi. I woke up this morning, doc, and I want to be
a woman. Okay, your appointmentis next Tuesday for the gender changing surgery.
It doesn't work. I mean,these are we have to accept the
fact these are kids who have gonethrough the proper the proper hoops and I
believe in it need peril parental consentfor this. That's the problem. Kins
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can't doing this on their own.By the way, all of these organizations,
every one of them, not one, has come out on the tattooing
issue. They're fine. But waita minute, you're you don't want tattooing
that should be against the law withminers. Yeah, that's true, that's
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how we believe. But you're okaywith gender changing surgery. Explain that one
to me, Lucy. It's justa contradiction that exists and my daughter.
At some point, I'll tell youthe story about my daughter getting her tattoo,
and it's a hell of a story, but I'm going to save that
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for the next time we do atattoo story. I want to spend a
couple of minutes talking about diversity andinclusion. Now I look at this and
a lot of this is woke.Where I have a real problem saying we
have to look the history of thiscountry and where we are society through the
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eyes of the racism that has beenpart of America from the time we were
founded. By the way we werefounded on a concept of racism. The
first blacks that came to this countrywere slaves. There were no indigenous black
people in the United States or whatthen was the New World, and so
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the history of particularly African Americans hasbeen very, very tough. I mean
that this is the original sin ofthis country is racism, and then it
became much more subtle because we hadthe Civil Rights movement. And there are
a lot of people that are arguing, well, we're still in the same
level of racism. We're not,and they say, well, it's more
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insidious, it isn't. I mean, there have been huge stride. Oh
is there enough? Yeah? Isthere enough issues with diversity? Yeah,
there is, and we've dealt withit a bunch. Affirmative action in the
courts have dealt with that. Amatter of fact, is one of the
things I study in law school.The whole issue of the original Baki decision
with the University of California having todo with reverse discrimination. So there is
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a legitimacy. I believe to theargument that there's bias and quote wokeism,
but you can go too far onthat, you really can, and I
think it has gone too far.So I'm going to give you a story
about something that on its face.You go. For those of you that
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think that it's gone too far,please come on, guys, but you
go, you look at you go. Okay, you know what this may
actually work. So this is abouta company called Woodward. It's about one
hundred and fifty years old, andit white male management. A matter of
fact, into the nineties, theyhad to wear bow ties management, if
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you can imagine that. So PaulBenson, the company's chief human resource officers,
knew that there we have to createsomething. I mean, it's hard
to have a company that doesn't havesome kind of diversity training. So he
wanted to create a diversity, equityinclusion program. And he knew that it's
going to be a shift because hesaid, we're a lily white leadership,
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a team of old males. Andso he said, people want to feel
like they belong. I mean hecaught it. I mean he got the
issue. People want to feel likethey belong. And if you're a minority,
if you're a woman, certainly,if you're let's say gay, it's
hard to feel like you belong inmany, many, many companies. So
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he talked about people wanting to feellike they belong. They want to come
to work and not feel they haveto check themselves at the door, which
a lot of people do, particularlygay people, you know, if they
have not come out of the closet. They come into work and they're checking
out their gainness at the door andwalking in and being non gay becoming straight.
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So last summer, Benson started searchingfor a diversity consultant. He wanted
to find an expert. So hegoes to Google as a search and the
search leads him to a black comedianand a former media personality, Keareth Foster.
She's the chief executive of this inversitySolution, a consultancy company that well,
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it takes diversity training. Now canyou imagine this? The word is
traditional diversity training. It's gotten tothat point where diversity training is reached a
level where it is now part andparcel of what companies do. And so
he wanted someone or she has thisconsultancy that rethinks diversity training from the get
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go. And she said companies haveto address racism, sexism, homophobia,
anti semitism in the workplace. Okay, traditional argument why you want diversity,
but goes on and says, butwait a minute, you know we have
to look at it in a wholedifferent way. You cannot overemphasize identity groups
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and a tendency to reduce people tovictim and villain, which, when you
think about it, that's exactly whatdiversity training is. Certainly the wokeism that
is sweeping the country. If you'relooking at looking at the United States through
history and the racism and the bias, and that is the only way we
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look at the history of this country. It's clearly victim and villain. I
mean, that's it. And sheargues, you know what, that alienates
everybody. So she comes up withher approach and says, hey, you
know what, we have to alloweveryone to make mistakes, that's all,
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and deal with it. So sheends up getting the keynote address at the
leadership somewhat of this company in October. And here's what she did. And
it's an exercise she did which Ilooked at and go, yeah that you
know, I'd hired this woman ina heartbeat. So she takes the stage.
She asks everyone to close their eyesand raise their hands in response to
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a series of questions, have youever locked the car when a black man
walked by? Had you thought,yeah, Jewish people are really good with
money. By the way, antisemitic and absolutely true. Had you questioned
the intelligence of someone with a thickSouthern accent who doesn't do that outside of
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the South. Hey, y'all,let's get ourselves some fried chicken, and
let's get ourselves some cornpone. Bythe way, what is cornpone? I
have no idea. I have noidea besides delicious? What is it?
I think it's like a corn meal. It's kind of like yeah, yeah.
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And grits. I mean I hadgrits once once. Who the hell
eats this? You do? Ofcourse you do? Jason? Who eats
POI? I mean, come on, wallpaper paste, and what do you
do put a little sugar in it? I mean people eat that stuff?
So, uh, you think ofSoutherners as just not being very smart just
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by reason of their accent? Youthink that's some bias. So I would
raise my hand to that question.So she's on the stage. She does
a keynote for one year and askseveryone close your eyes, and then starts
asking questions. You ever walked thecar when a black man walked by?
I wants to ask Jesse Jackson,uh, does he have a problem?
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And he said, yeah. IfI'm night and three black men are walking
past, I go across the street. Jesse Jackson said that to me,
that's the bias that exists. Andare Jews really good with money? Okay,
good question, answers yes, Andasked just a bunch of questions about
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that, and everybody's eyes closed,and as she asked the questions, people
started raising their hands in terms ofwhat they thought. She answered a couple
of questions by raising her hands.Everybody in the room raised their hands at
some point regarding bias. And whatshe asked is how many people do not
feel good about themselves admitting to bias? Most said yeah, I'm not particularly
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thrilled abound. She says, that'sthe problem with diversity training right now,
because people at work should feel likethey belong and management should feel like management
belongs. And it really is onehappy Comebay company, but it really isn't
There is some legitimacy to this.And you say, what is the problem.
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One of the big issues, especiallya pandemic, is do you belong
at your company? I mean,that's the first thing, but not belonging
as is you've been hired. Butlet me give you an example which she
brings up, and that is,let's say you're in a group where you
are gay and you don't know whatyour co workers think of you, and
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what you tend to do is thencheck your gayness at the door, and
you walk in as a straight maleor female, and so it's not you,
it's what they expect you to be. And now the changes come,
Hey, it is who I am, and then want to and ask to
be accepted. At the same time, management is looking at you and I
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want you to belong And I gotto be very careful here because you know,
I'm not a big fan of holdinghands Kumbaya. Let's all get married
in front of a tree and oursnacks will be twigs coming off that tree.
This it can get pretty close tothat. But if you know where
to draw the line, I thinkthis makes a lot of sense. And
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this question of belonging is the focus, the latest focus in this evolving world
of corporate diversity, equity inclusion.That's the programs as well. Interest in
all of this actually started the murderof George Floyd. George Floyd changed a
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lot of things. The murder ofGeorge Floyd changed a lot of things,
and one of them. You wouldn'tthink usually you think of policing for example.
It also has crept into corporate thinking. And what it does is her
boat into corporate thinking. And thisis one that there are tons of companies
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that are not even referring to themselvesas inclusive. They're using the word belonging.
Tells you how far companies have gone. Now are there critics? Of
course there are critics, and thecritics are saying, this is all about
making white people comfortable. So thereforeI guess we shouldn't do it right.
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It is you're not addressing systematic inequality. You're not going to the core of
this problem. So if you happento be a company of fifty employees or
one hundred employees, this bs oftrying to belong. Hey, go after
the real cause, go after systematicFor example, of granting of loans,
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you should go into the you shouldgo into the lending area. And instead
of manufacturing your widget, you shouldstart a bank and not redline. That
should be part of You should bea chief of police and make sure that
people are treated the same and there'sno racism. Yeah, okay, thank
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you critics. Don't you love it? You know the critics of the police.
There shouldn't be a police department becausethere's bias. Only social workers should
go out and be police people.I mean, you can go crazy.
So all right, you got thecrazies out there that it's about making white
people comfortable, But you know whatit is about making white people comfortable with
accepting the fact that the bias exists. And if everybody attacks it the same
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way, it's better than not.Makes sense to me, it really does.
And she says that is a practicalmatter. There's never going to be
equality or equity if people in powerstraight white mails are excluded from the conversation.
And again, the argument that thepolice should be defunded, well not
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even defunded, should be completely dealt, done away with, because the argument
is think about this. So peoplethat are saying that we want the police
defunded, we don't want the policeinvolved in the conversation. They have no
business being in that conversation. It'sall about what we think. We do
not want the police to do ABCand D. And not only do we
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want that, we don't want themto even comment on it. We just
want them to go ahead and dowhat we think is going to happen.
So we still have diversity among thinking, but you're going to see more and
more of this as companies don't eventhe word inclusion, not even the word
is now belonging. Okay, goodfor them. Now Danny Masterson is on
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trial for ray being three women betweentwo thousand and one two thousand and three,
and of course Dannie Masterson, asyou know, was one of the
big star of the seventies show.That seventies show was I didn't know it
ran for eight years. That isa hugely successful show. So he's a
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defendant. He already there was ahung jury the first time out, and
so now there's a second trial.And sometimes prosecutors go ahead and they retry,
sometimes they don't. Fairly high profiletries or very high profile trials generally
go forward on a second go round, and certainly this is pretty high profile.
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So since he is a scientologist,he was born into the church of
scientology, and since the girls,the women are also scientologists, the trial
is not only about Danny Masterson,it's also about scientology and the scientologs or
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Danny Master was able to keep alot of the scientology aspect of this sort
of out the first trial, andjudges on the second trial was going,
we're going to let a lot ofit in which, of course, is
Danny Master loses, he gets convicted, then it's going to be appealed,
probably on that basis. So theDA talks about him and says, like
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all predators, the defendant carefully soughtout his prey. Most of his victims
members of the Church of Scientology,and the church tells his victims rape isn't
rape. You've caused this, andabove all, you do not go to
law enforcement. The church course deniesthat, and you would expect them to.
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Church has been attacked, probably moreso than any other religion because I
think if you want to call ita religion, a lot of people think
it's not a religion at all.And the history of Scientology is it's fascinating.
People deride l Ron Hubbard like crazy, and I have been to the
Quote Celebrity Center and it's really quotes, and there's a museum of l.
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Ron Hubbard over there, and alot of people think the guy's just a
quack. I have to tell you, anybody who starts a religion and creates
something like the Church of Scientology maybea quack. But that's a lot of
people are saying he's very, verybright, and I put myself in that
category. Also, he wrote hundredsof novels, thousands of articles, I
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mean, all science fiction, weirdstuff, but a really fascinating eye to
say the least. So that's anaside. So it's been six years since
Masterson was publicly accused of assaulting thethree women in his home in the Hollywood
Hills between two thousand and two thousandand three, and at that time he
was at the height of his famebecause he was one of the stars of
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the seventies show and the accusers accusedhim of basically drugging them with roy hipno
state rape that they although that hasn'tbeen proved. They simply talk about what
the symptoms were. We were unconsciousin and out, didn't really understand what
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was happening, didn't know where wewere, didn't remember a lot. One
of them is Chrissy b. Wedon't have her last name, and she
was Masterson's longtime girlfriend and she testifiedto repeated abuse. Now only one of
which is actually at the cause ofthis trial, or at the point of
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this trial. Masterson is denied allwrongdoing. He didn't testify at either trial.
No witnesses were presented by his team. Actually, the defense attorneys have
largely relied on cross examination, anargument much like what Trump has done in
his trial for defamation. No witnesses, no defense, just attacking the accuser.
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Well, this happened the same way, all right. That was the
President speak very short comments and ithad very little to do with his trip
in the G seven he in Japan. He mentioned it a little bit,
but for the most part he talkedabout this looming debt ceiling. I'm not
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gonna use the word debacle, buti gotta tell you, if it turns
out that the Congress does not voteto extend, increase the borrowing that we
have to do in order to payour bills, we're hearing Janet Yellen,
Treasury Secretary, as well as economistsall over the world, and political leaders
and leaders of both government as wellas the private sector are saying we're in
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a world of hurt. The worldlooks at the dollar, or as the
juggernaut. The world's basic currency isthe dollar. Everything is paid in dollars.
Just give you an example, theprice of oil, which of course
is a worldwide commodity. You knowwhat it is. You'll hear it in
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dollars all over the world. It'sin dollars. The value of virtually everything,
economies, etc. Are in dollars. I mean, that's how important
the dollar is. And even thoughwe're through the roof in terms of inflation
and in terms of debt, deficitspending which is now a trillion dollars a
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year drives everybody nuts. And thenthe President, he was so disingenuous just
now. And I'll tell you aboutthat in a minute. God, I
love the way he looks at things. That's every administration does that. The
point is, if we do notallow ourselves to borrow the money, and
that's increased the debt ceiling in orderto pay bills that have already been incurred,
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what ends up happening is the economyof the United States is looked at
in a very different way. It'sno longer the rock that it has been
for generations, especially since World WarTwo when the United States owned the world,
because all of the other major countriesthat are now huge economies were devastated.
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Russia was devastated, Japan was devastated, Germany was devastated. I mean
there was nothing left except the UnitedStates. So of course we were on
top of the world. And ifwe don't allow ourselves to borrow the money,
then, as Janet Yellen says,it becomes catastrophic. So what ends
up happening, Well, first ofall, the bond when we do borrow
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money, we're going to pay ahigher interest rate because we're not considered as
good a risk. Our FICO scoredrops dramatically. The faith and credit of
the United States, which is consideredprobably the most powerful statement of faith and
credit. Faith and credit is whatthe government says is backing, you know,
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to our dollars. I mean youlook at that piece of paper.
I mean how much you think thatpiece of paper is worth? When you
look at the money we have inthe bank, we don't have money in
the bank. Most of it isloaned out. It is the faith and
credit of the United States that holdseverything up, not the dollars, not
the gold, not the amount ofmoney that's in banks, not the amount
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of Treasury bills that are out thereand the government owes money to It's everybody
believing that the United States is thejuggernaut and the basis of our world economy
all of a sudden that drops dramatically, and then we default, which means
we won't have the money to paybills that we've already incurred, which is
very different than the deficit every year, which of course just goes on and
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on, and that's a given.I mean, our deficit now is a
trillion dollars a year. I mean, it's just completely crazy. We actually
a trillion dollars more than we havemoney coming in. And the only way
we can continue to pay the billsis allowing ourselves. This is by law,
allowing ourselves to borrow the money byselling treasury bills, and then we
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pay interest on it, and everybody'sa happy camper. And the inability to
borrow that you're dead. For example, you're paying you spend more money than
you do. You bring in onehundred thousand dollars a year, you spend
one hundred and twenty thousand dollars ayear. So what you do is you
keep on borrowing money to pay tocover the expenses of one hundred and twenty
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thousand. So you need an extratwenty grand every year, and so you
borrow it. And if you borrowit, indefinitely. You're going to be
able to pay your bills. Nowit's going to cost you interest. You're
not going to live as well asyou could, but you'll have the money
if your credit is cut off andyou are not allowed to borrow any more
money. So here you have ahundred thousand dollars coming in, a hundred
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and twenty thousand dollars that you arespending, plus the money that you have
borrowed before, and you can't getmoney to pay it off. That is
your debt. That's the national debtwe're talking about, and it's all going
to go into the toilet. That'sthe worst. We're talking about jobs being
lost by the millions. We're talkingabout the faith in the United States as
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one of I wouldn't even say oneof the great rocks. It is the
rock of the world economy. Andit's all being done because of politics.
Also have to tell you that inthe world of debt, what Joe Biden
wants is a clean bill, whichmeans you don't attach it to anything.
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It's just we owe more money,we have to borrow more money. Therefore,
here you go President, and hereyou go economy. We Congress law
control this, We're gonna let youhave it, no strings attached. For
the first time, we have theRepublicans saying our strings attached. If you
don't cut the budget, we're notgoing to give you the ability to borrow
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money. All you talk about playingchicken on this one. Since the sixties,
I think forty eight times that we'veborrowed that we've extended the debt ceiling.
There has never been a case everwhere politics were attached to the vote
to extend or increase the debt ceiling. Never first time. And this is
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what the Republicans are bringing to thetable and saying, if you don't agree
to cut expenditure, no chance,we won't pass it. Interestingly enough,
when Donald Trump was president and doingthe same thing, there was no issue.
The Republicans passed it, saying fine, you know what, of course,
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of course, will increase the debtceiling. That's the politics of it.
That's where we've come to. Sonow the disingenuousness that I was telling
you about earlier, the President sayswe are going to cut the expenditures.
We're going to cut our spending bythree point one trillion dollars over the next
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ten years, and last year hecut it. I don't know whatever,
how many trillion that's against the biggestexpenditure we've ever had in terms of dollars
in the history of the United States. I'm willing to bet that the last
time the government went into that muchdebt and spent more money as a result
of more percentage of the economy wasWorld War Two, when the entire country
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became a win on a war footing. I don't think we've borrowed this much
since then. And World War Two, well, I mean, we became
a war economy, the whole country, everybody was part of the war effort.
And so we'll see who blinks.I'm hoping that it's Kevin McCarthy who
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blinks, because here is the problem. If it turns out that he wins
and the president in case and Idon't care what president, I don't care
what party, all of a sudden, the ability to borrow the money and
pay our bills now is predicated onwhichever power is. Whichever party is in
power, we're prepared to let theentire economy of this country go into the
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toilet if you don't agree to whatwe want. In this case, it
is for example, cutting expenditure.What if it was the other way around.
What if it's a Democratic Congress andRepublican president and the argument is,
we want more entitlement programs, wewant more money for libraries, we want
to increase social security more so thanwhat the law allows now. And if
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you don't give that to us,we're not going to let We're not going
to vote the debt ceiling into effect. It's pretty scary, it really is.
Oh, if that sets the president, we are, yeah, we
are screwed. And they're talking aboutsome kind of a compromise. I hope
not. I hope McCarthy just comesback and goes, Okay, I'm willing
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to talk, but not on thedebt ceiling. That's what's going on.
That's what he's dealing with, andthat's why the President is cutting short his
visit. So right after the Gseven summit, he is not going to
Australia, is not going to PapuaNew Guinea. He is coming right back
to Washington and engaging in those talksa topic that I have felt very strongly
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about, that I actually have feltstrongly about since I've been sixteen years old.
And how did it go back thatfar Well. I remember when you
got your driver's license, you couldget a card at the back of your
driver's license that was fixed like apost it note, theft a little stronger
and says I want to be anorgan donor. And in those days it
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listed what organs you wanted to give, or all of them or any exclusions.
And then remember the red dot cameand you're an organ donor, or
you're not an organ donor. AndI've had that on my driver's license since
I've been sixteen years old. That'show important it is for me an organ
donation. To me, the factthat thousands upon thousands of people die every
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single year for lack of organs isI find astounding. And there is a
Yiddish word for humiliating and just ashame beyond a shame. It's called shanda.
It is a shonda that this thatpeople are denied organ donor simply because
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de died organs, simply because thereare no enough organ donors. I haven't
answered this, by the way,just let you know I've talked about this
for years. I actually have ananswer to undo all of that. We
could literally have every person, Soit needs an organ starting tomorrow receive organs.
So let me tell you about acompany. It's called One Legacy and
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it's a Zuza local company. Andhere people are sitting on beds or lying
on beds with ventilators and artificial lifemachines going on, and they're effectively kind
of dead. And see, youthink it's a hospital. One Legacy is
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not a hospital. It happens tobe the largest organ procurement organization in the
country. And the kidneys and liversand other organs that these three bodies,
keep in mind, these bodies arethey're sitting there and just waiting for the
organs to be retrieved and sent intosomeone else. You've got three people who
could save the lives of up totwenty four people, the kidneys and livers,
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lungs. And the fact is therearen't enough people like this who end
up in spots like this. That'sthe shame of it. And why well,
you would think it's not enough peopledon't eat, But there's all other
parts of this too. Doctors havingfigured out a way to how to retrieve
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organs from the vast majority of dyingpatients because they're not able to convince enough
people to give up their body parts. Now I have a question to ask
you. There you are and you'redead. You really need your organs.
Boy, that's important, isn't it. What you've got to be. You
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have to be mummified and your hearthas to be put in some albums in
some jar that goes next to youwhen you're buried. Come on, now,
there are certain religious groups that don'tallow organs to be removed from the
body. Religious Jews, for example, don't are not allowed to. The
Jewish religion doesn't allow it. Ithink Islam also doesn't allow it. But
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for the rest of people, comeon, give me a break. You
know, I'm I'm an organ ownerup and dow on the street. So
that is one of the problems isdoctors figuring out a way to tell people
or to convince them, because usuallysomeone has to be convinced or family member
has to be convinced. Again,I'm going to tell you how I can
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undo this. I have the answer. So we have a waiting list,
and there's a whole world to that. And even though the number of organs
since I think twenty twelve or whateverhas increased by fifty percent, the number
of people on the waiting list toget organs has increased even more. Right
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now, there are more than onehundred thousand people in the country on transplant
waiting lists as of January. Everyten minutes someone is added every day.
According to the FEDS, seventeen peopleon the waiting list die because they can't
get organs, livers, hearts.So how do you become an egg an
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organ donor? Well, you signup, But that's the easiest part because
there's a whole bunch of rules outthere that exists in terms of how your
organs can or cannot help someone.One depends on how healthy your organs are.
Two depends on how you died.I mean, is their injury.
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I mean the best organ donors areheard of. Doctor Ones tell me this.
I thought he was joking, Butno, gang bangers who get their
heads blown off because their organs aregreat. They're young, they're healthy,
they're in their twenties. Okay,not bad. And Latinos are very high
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on the giving of the organ story. It's whites and Latinos who give the
most highest percentage. African Americans arethe lowest percentage. African Americans are just
not big into organ donation, sothere are a bunch of conditions that disqualify
you from quoting living donation or adeceased donation. Do you have a cancer,
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Okay, you're gonna gone, damagefrom diabetes, high blood pressure,
tumors. If they discover you havesome problems, you're gone. Patient's age
is important. The younger you are, the healthier you are. And then
maybe the biggest limit is how quicklyorgans deterior rate outside the body or even
inside the bad a body after theheart stops speeding. So when organs are
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just deprived of the blood oxygenated bloodfor more than twenty thirty minutes, they
become too damaged, can't be transplanted. And no one's actually solved that medical
riddle yet, how do we getthat going? So kidneys, livers,
vital organs taking only from patients whodie in a hospital. You die at
home, you're done as an organdonor. You have to die in a
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hospital. And basically one percent ofthe almost three million people who die in
hospitals each year even fit into thatcategory. So it's all registered, it's
all it's all determined by federal government. So hospitals notify their regional donation centers
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when they have a patient who hasdied or is about to die at this
one company. I tell you aboutan Azuza, which is the biggest organ
transplant center and it's not a hospital, but people die there. Staffers use
information from the doctors to identify potentialdonors, meet with family members and start
discussing. You've seen those TV shows, haven't you where the hospitals you know,
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the doctors would involved sit down withthe family members saying, hey,
you know what your family members aboutto die? Would you consider an organ
donor? And you save people,etc. I mean, we've seen all
those and so once they get yeahand yes, and sometimes they say no.
Now what does the law say?Family members can decide unless the patient
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has written a directive or has writtenyou a legal document. I want my
organs donated. And how many peopledo that? So a dead body can
spend two or three days hooked upto pumps before the organs are ultimately removed,
and then the organs once removed orpackage Usually they take people off life
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support and so the organs are packaged. They go over to ups and you
know they have package them for you, as you know, in those boxes,
and then they're put into igloos theigloo containers as well, insulated and
on ice, and they're usually flown. If it's not a hospital really near
where the transplant takes place, thehelicopter flies them to the nearest center a
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half hour flight or whatever, andhere we go. Kidneys can last twenty
four to thirty six hours outside thebody, liver six to eight hours,
a heart or a lung only threeto four hours, so they have to
move fairly quickly. And then it'swhere you are, how sick you are,
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and a lot of it is simplythe role of the dice, and
that is the problem. And thenthe argument is if the doctors want to
donate your organs or you have adirective, then the argument is, well,
why they want you to die sothey can get the organs out of
there. I'd love that argument.And then Ann came up with that and
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actually said, why would they wantyou to die more than they want the
organ transplant to live? Why whyhave they made that choice that somewhat you
die and the other one doesn't.I haven't quite figured that out yet.
And then the cost of this stuffis unbelievable. The average medical bill for
transplants four hundred and forty thousand fora kidney, eight hundred and eighty thousand
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for a liver, one point twomillion dollars for intestines, and one point
seven million dollars for a heart.Pretty impressive. Okay, So the question
do I have the answer? Ido? And what is the answer the
law? We pass a law thatsays you are an an organ donor unless
you opt out. In other words, you have to decide not to be
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an organ donor. Otherwise the presumptionis that you are how many people?
How many people do you think wouldbe organ donors? Just because they haven't
written it in, they haven't decidedAm I an organ donor? As I
said, since I've been sixteen yearsold? Now you know, if I
last another ten years and I'm onmy deathbed and my kids are waiting for
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me to go because they think thatthey're going to get all the money,
I'm probably not going to be eligibleto give one of my organs. So
the doctors are going, nah,you know, we really don't care.
You guys decide what to do withhim. Okay, all of that.
I love this topic and have ifI've been listening to this show for any
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amount of time years. I'm sortof fanatic about this and have been just
one of my pet peeves. Allright, coming up, it's Gary and
Shannon right here and Gary, what'sgoing on today on your show? Well,
quite a quite a kerfuffle last nightin New York City. Apparently Harry
and Meghan were chased by paparazzi.So we'll hear from the statement from the
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royal's own spokesperson about what happened andthen police say wasn't really a big deal.
Also, Debt ceiling talk. DianeFeinstein is old, John Fetterman sounds
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