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April 28, 2023 51 mins
Despite all of the rain, the Los Angeles Department of Water and Power is hoping to prevent a disaster as L.A.'s water lifeline is in jeopardy. Handel remembers the late Jerry Springer, who passed away yesterday after a battle with cancer. And Neil Saavedra returns for 'Foodie Friday!' To salt or not to salt? And the age-old question of whether or not your butter should be refrigerated.
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Your List Saints KFI AM six fortyThe Bill Handles show on demand on the
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on a Friday, it's gonna bea nice day to day, too hot,
but a nice day. It's goingto be natash fits. It's going
to be hot. I think we'regonna be doing that for the summer,

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aren't we. Oh yeah, we'reback to that one. The snow melt
is and is going to be hugenews because the snowpack is unprecedented up in
the Sierra's, particularly the eastern Sierras, where we get an enormous amount of

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water. Down here in southern California. Now we're gonna get a whole lot
of water. And there's some goodnews. One, we're gonna get a
whole lot of water. Now,if you happen to be a rafter and
you go on some of the rivers, it's pretty extraordinary. I mean you're
gonna die. I mean you'll bedead ten feet into the trip, but

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it's going to be really exciting forthe first ten feet. There is some
downside and there are some things aboutthis that I didn't know that I'm going
to share with you. First ofall, we had I mean the storms,
I mean it was a month ofit. It eroded a section of
the Los Angeles Aqueduct aqueduct and crewsare still scrambling to fix it. The

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Los Angeles Department of Water and Powerhead says, our cruise are working twelve
hours shift and right now the runoffis expected to be two hundred and twenty
five percent of normal. Normal isMay to June, this year, goes
through August and already and this isthe part that you go come on.

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Really, the DWP is already emptyingreservoirs to create more storage. Water goes
into the ocean because we have somuch water going to southern California this spring
and summer. The hope is thatthe snow melt the mountain, the stays,

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the snow stays frozen long enough upin the mountains to give everybody enough
time to prepare, to just preparefor the flooding. That is what they're
looking at now. For example,the Owens Valley where we get most of
our water. The aqueduct was builtin nineteen thirteen, In my nineteen twenty
six because the Owens Valley, hugelake was dry because we took all the

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water. Well, it's now alake again. And the problem is it's
alkaline the only thing that left.We're toxic chemicals, minerals in the soil,
even to the point where it wasso dangerous and so bad because it
was dry, the bottom of thelake dry, and you know, all

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of these toxic minerals that were left. The DWP had to spend two point
five billion dollars over the years toclean up the air. Air pollution control
and we're talking about it's been goingon for thirty years, that's how bad
it is. So they're really dealingwith this, and we're going to deal

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with this now. The good newsis all the water restrictions are basically gone.
I think you can wash your carsnow. I don't think the watching
car police are going to be comingaround anymore. But the real real challenges
what do you do with all thiswater? And I was driving with some
friends yesterday and talked about the rain. When it rains la Orange County,

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we're paralyzed. We can't drive becausewe're not used to it. You go
to Seattle, I mean you lookat the streets, you know, what
I noticed. You know, thosestorm drains on in the curbs, you
know, along the curb and yougo to Seattle, they're every two feet.
I just started looking at them,and I never have done that before.
You know, they're every quarter mileapart. Yeah, the flooding that

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happens, we're simply not prepared forit. Now, the good news is
tens of thousands of waterfall foul gulls, shore birds are taking advantage and it
has become a huge wetland for allof these thousands. So for those of
you that enjoy nature and enjoy lookingat birds flying down and hitting the water

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and hitting the shores, you're gonnasee tens of thousands of them. So
that's kind of nice. Also,the hunting is great. The shooting of
those birds is just terrific if youhaven't have a shotgun. All right.
Now, moving to a topic thatis being covered, I mean all over
the country, huge story, andthis is Jack to share that young twenty

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one year old Air Force Reserve guywho was a computer guy. I guess
he was a maintenance young man whodealt with the computer system up in I
think it was up north in Connecticut. In any case, as you know
by now that he shared information tophigh end classified information that he had access

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through not because he was cleared todeal with it, but he got into
it because he had to. That'show he was able to check his computers.
He was arrested. He was partof this group where he actually released
this information highly secret topics that reallyinvolving us and not national security. So

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now he gets arrested and he isasking to be released pending his trial,
and the defense attorneys are going,yes, sirrey Bob, we got to
let him out, and the prosecutionbasically as you're out of your mind.
So let's start with Wayne on thisone. And there was a it's a

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pre trial I guess reported by thedefense arguing that he should be at least
released, and I'm talking about releasedon bond. We're not talking about just
released or acquitted. So how doesthis work these pre trial reports, Well,
you have a detention hearing, andsome of them are very informal,

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by the way, in a lotof cases, you literally just come in
there, nobody files any paperwork,You talk for five minutes in front of
the judge and they set something.This had a motion for detention by the
government, and a motion for releaseby the defense and a supplemental motion by
the government. They're really spending alot of time on the question of does

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he stay in prison pending trial oris there some combination of conditions under which
he should be released. Now,there are two big categories of things you
got to think about if you're goingto let somebody out. Are they,
I will say this the integrity ofthe process and danger to the community.

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And then underneath the umbrella of theintegrity the process is will they show up?
Are they a flight risk? Willthey try to obstruct or interfere with
the proceedings? And the government issaying, yes, he will flee,
Yes he will obstruct the hearings andthe evidence that they're presenting. Of these

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two things number one, Now,this is an interesting theory of why he's
a flight risk. Usually you saythe person's mother lives in Romania, and
he has a passport and he hasenough money to get on a plane and
go. You kind of look atthe practical ability to flee. They're not
looking at that. You know whatthey're saying, he released all this classified

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information. He has even more classifiedinformation that we haven't really talked about publicly
yet, and we are fearful thata foreign government hostile to the United States
will help him get out of thecountry and go there where they will harbor
him. Now, and I wantto bring up one more then I'm going

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to ask you a question. Andof all the people, I mean,
I would have gone to you asan outside expert on this one, Wayne,
and we just happen to have youon the show. The other argument
that the prosecutors arguing, just lookingat the time in prison that he's looking
at virtually for the rest of hislife, possibly that in and of itself

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makes him a flight risk. Howlegitimate is that it is one of the
specified things that a judge is toconsider when they are considering whether to release
somebody. And in fact, Idon't want to spend too much time on
this, but there are certain timesthat if you are that if you are
charged with them, you're not allowedto be out on bail. This isn't

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one of them. Yeah, there'salways wonder there's a whole long statute that
that has a bunch of different things, And what you're talking about is a
legitimate part of the matrix, allright. So I'm looking at the prosecution
saying he is a flight risk.He is a risk because foreign government may
get involved and having him squirreled awayor him releasing information because he has access.

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We don't even know how much hehas, or is evidence that he
has a lot more than his firstreported. Now I'm looking at this,
and the defense is saying, firstof all, that's not true, that's
pure speculation. Second of all,there's no indication that a foreign government's going
to come in and do it.I mean, that's a hypothetical. And

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he's looking at the long try.I don't know if they refer to that.
He's looking at a long sentence andsomehow it wasn't for me. I'm
looking at this, saying and thedefense arguments are ridiculous. Except for the
foreign government, I think it's astretch. And tell me if this is
legitimate, because you've dealt with thisfor years. Well, it is true.

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The government's argument that a foreign governmentmight want to help him is entirely
speculative. And I've read the government'smotion, so I know everything that they
told the judge. They don't haveactual evidence that that is the case,
but they are speculating. That isthe weakest perhaps part of their argument.

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However, they have a pretty goodargument that he might interfere with the prosecution
if he's released, because, asthey point out, he deleted the social
media server where he posted the information. He encouraged the other people in that
discord group to delete evidence that theyhad. He got a new phone number

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and a new email address, andhe smashed several electronic devices, including a
laptop at his house and threw himin the dumpster. And they're saying if
he's out and about, he mightdo other things to try to frustrate the
continuing investigation. So the fear thathe is going to just leave and flee.
He's got no money. They obviouslytake away his passport. I think

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that's kind of weak. But whenyou put it all together in totality,
I'm looking at this, I don'tthink there'd be a judge in the country
that would release him on bond.Well, we haven't even got to and
we can do it quickly. Theother thing, which is is he a
danger to the community. He madestatements that if he had his way,
he would kill an s ton ofpeople. He was talking about taking a

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very he said the specific kind ofvan and turn it into an assassination van.
He asked people for advice about whatkind of a rifle would be easiest
to operate from the back of ansuv, and that he would conduct the
shooting in a crowded urban or suburbanenvironment. So if you don't believe he's
a flight risk, and I'm notsure that he is, I think there's

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a very strong argument he is adanger to the community because he didn't just
really he's not a Chelsea Manning whojust said I think people should know about
this. He this was wrapped upin a whole bunch of others. Even
if he violence, if even ifhe is not charged with any of that
other than releasing governmental secrets, it'sdoes judge, it doesn't matter that he's

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not charged. Okay, the courtabsolutely can consider it fair enough. Absolutely,
That's why I want to know it. Bottom line is any chance of
him being released. There's a slimchance that he gets out if the government,
if the judge weighs too much onthe government's being speculative here, All
right, Wayne, Thanks. JerrySpringer died yesterday, and he was a

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television guy, and there are lotsand lots of television people out there,
but he was a cultural phenomena hisshow for a couple of reasons that I'll
get into it in the meantime orin a moment. He was a politician
obviously presided over the Jerry Springer Show. And if you ever looked at the

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show, and I saw it afew times on air, fights, nudity
blurred, bleeped out, profanity,a lot of them, totally out of
control guests by including feuding relatives,swingers, furniture throwing, boyfriends, accusations,

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confrontations, and you had the goons, the security quote these huge guys
that were there that pulled people apart, and the people fighting were quote spontaneous.
It's like hockey that you think thathockey isn't there because of the fights.

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That's the whole point. Springer wasa lawyer. Survived a prostitution scandal,
This one I love. He wastagged with writing checks to a prostitute.
My first question is who writes checksto a hooker? You would think
that that would be cash. Youwould think, I mean, it's smart

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if there's no money where the checksare coming from. Yeah, that's true.
If there's no intent to pay,it's true. It's not a bad
idea. All right, should bea lawyer. He was mayor of Cincinnati.
He was actually a local news anchorbefore launching The Jerry Springer Show in
nineteen ninety one. It went onthe air in insanely successful syndication for twenty

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seven years, and he never apologizedfor that show. He wore it as
a badge of honor. Los AngelesTV critic Howard Rosenberg, who is an
Award winn critic, I mean,he was very, very famous in nineteen
ninety seven said Springer wears his sleevesand slime like a chest full of metals.

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TV Guide rated The Jerry Springer Showas the worst show in the history
of television, and he reveled inthat. Oprah Winfrey jet she denounced the
show. Now he for a periodof time actually had better ratings than she
did. And remember her ratings.She dismissed the show as a vulgarity circus.

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He wouldn't disagree with that. Andif you look at the title of
the episodes, those are particularly fun. For example, three Sums with Grandmont
was one of them. I marrieda horse, I mean for real.
Now, a few TV stations saidwe're not going to carry that one because
of the discussion of interspecies relationships euphemismfor interspecies relationships. Then there's another episode

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Clan Frontation. This was between IrvRuben, who is or was the chairman
of the Jewish Defense League and Iknew Irv very well. Irv was completely
insane and they and Springer had himon with a bunch of q Collex Klan
members that were dressed in their robes. That was a good fight. And

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if you look at what he did, he was the referee, it was
the ringmaster. He was a carnivalmarker. And when a brawl would break
out on the air, which alwayswas I won't say contrived or planned,
but they knew it was going tohappen because the very show was based on
that, Springer usually looks shocked,you can't fight. Then the bouncer stepped

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in the studio audience booze and chairsand man, it was pure entertainment and
he was proud of that. Therewas one story that got serious. One
of his guests, Galbana and NancyCampbell, was murdered by her ex husband
right after she appeared on the showas part of an episode title Secret mistresses

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confronted the producer wanted her her exhusband his new wife to fight on stage.
Well, they fought, because rightafter the show he ended up killing
her. Family members blamed Springer forthe murder itself, because setting up the
confrontation on the show, the murderhappened. Afterwards, they sued they settled

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for nothing. He an he wouldhave won anyway, and he told Reuters
in an interview that he would neverwatch his own show, but defended it.
This is escapist entertainment, and hesaid all of television is a canned,
restricted, vanilla view of life.He's right, and he said these

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are people and they are vilified simplybecause they don't speak the Queen's English.
Let me tell you when you talkabout not speaking the Queen's English. Oh
yeah, daytime television, the guestsare incredible. I shared with you and
I had the worst television show nextto Springer nineteen nineteen ninety six. I
had a TV show and it wasmuch like interviewing guests and crazy guests.

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And I'm not going to exaggerate.Now, this is an absolute true story,
and this gives you an idea ofwhat daytime television is. We would
have guests just like this on theshow. They would be picked up at
the airport. There was a contractwith a local dentist that when if the
guests didn't have front teeth, thedentist put on temporary teeth for the purposes

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of the show. That's not true. That is absolutely true. Are you
serious? It is absolutely true.Okay, that's fantastic now, oh yeah,
no, I've got stories that couldgo on. Oh I could write
a book on the stories of thatTV show. Of course, it was
canceled after one season because it wasit was horrible, but still it was,

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you know. And he ran forgovernor. He was the mayor of
Cincinnati. He was a city councilat the age of twenty seven. I
mean, just an extraordinary guy.He was on Dancing with the Stars.
He hosted America's Got Talent for twoseasons. He h was in a movie,
uh, fictional, fictional movie ofhim and in my favorite one.

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There was a hit British musical JerrySpringer the Opera and oh that was the
best. And imagine him conducting hisshow in hell. Remember one of the
songs was like I've been sleeping withyour mom? What the f what the
f Oh yeah, I mean literally, it was two opera. It was

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just terrific. Okay, it's agreat story. I love it. Jerry
Springer, he's gonna be missed.I mean, what a character he was.
Now take out a dollar bill andthere's George Washington. Everybody knows that.
And if you look at the upperleft hand part of the bill,
it says, in very small letters, this note is legal tender for all

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debts public and private. You wouldthink that they have to take your money
because it's legal tender. I mean, you know they have to take it
right the stores? Not true?How many stores have you gone to?
How many places gone? Now?No cash anymore? I went to a
crypto the other day, crypto stadium. Nothing, no cash. Try to
go on a Southwest Airline and tryto buy something with cash, Nope,

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we only take credit cards. Socash is out. No longer is cash
king paper currency? Coins unsanitary,inconvenient, actually costly, a handle,
easy to steal. Two fifths ofAmericans use no cash in twenty twenty two,

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and now what does the country haveto decide? Is ditching the dollar
bill a good idea? And backin twenty fifteen, fewer than a quarter
of consumers when cash lists. Nowit's two fifths, and that is a
big deal. And here's a coupleof arguments. Jay Stanley, a senior
policy analyst at the ACLU, bigfan of cash. It goes, why

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don't you pay cash? I giveyou money, you give me a good
and the story. We're done.Now, if you're using a credit card,
then the data being collected is enormous. Your activities, your medical conditions,
your political donations, your sexual activities. That those are only hookers that
take credit cards. By the way, how much liquor you buy, how

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many cigarettes you buy? WHOA,that's all true because we've been hearing,
of course that using going on theinternet itself, just going and visiting a
site looking what was I just lookingat? I think I was just looking
at a camera for the computer.Now I'm going to get ads and lots

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of them. You know, theyknow that I'm looking for that. They
know you know, looking for Well, I'm not even going to that because
that's embarrassing. In any case,New York, Philadelphia, San Francisco they
own they have passed laws that sayyou have to accept cash. Most other

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cities are fine with it. Sohow did this happen? Well, COVID
sped up the cash list trend.The pandemic, Well, the virus might
spread on currency. Okay, conspiracypeople and a lot of people just stopped
caring cash. And I the onlyreason I have cash, and I always
have cash in my pocket for tworeasons. First of all, I always

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carry one hundred dollar bill with me, just in case there is a some
kind of an emergency. Also,if someone sticks a gun to my head
and says give me all of yourmoney, it's generally high and if I
only have sixty cents, he's probablygonna blow my brains out. So I
want him at least to be happythat he held me up. So that's
the other reason I carry cash.But here's the all the advantages of a

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cashlest society. I just told youthe downside. It's a big downside,
the data they can get because that'swhere it real money is. Real money
is now three fifths of wealthier Americans, those were six figure household incomes.
They have no cash. They don'tuse any cash at all. The only

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time I use cash other than onehundred dollars or so when I get held
up the guy's gonna be happy isI use it to tip servers at restaurants.
That's it, because they just appreciatecash. Because of course they immediately
will tell the irs that they receivethat cash, and there is no issue.

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But that's it. The rest ofthe time, I reached in my
pocket and I reached for the dollarbill and I put the amount of money
in my money clip, and Ihaven't well. Yesterday I went to lunch
with my family and I tipped incash, and that was the last time
in weeks that I've pulled money outof my pocket. Now, there are

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some downsides for poor people, andhere it is they don't use credit cards.
And when you and I use creditcards, we are paying for the
privilege. In other words, theretailer will charge one to three percent pass
it on that the retailer has topay the banks for the transactions not free.

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So this is where banks make apile of money. So while we
get the benefit, you've got peoplethat are quote under banked. I love
that the euphemism under inked. Iguess that means poor. That's just another
way to say no money. Andwhat they're doing is actually subsidizing those of

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us that use credit cards. Andthis is where the ACOU comes in and
says, that is so unfair thatpeople who can least afford it are subsidizing
those that in fact use credit cards. It's also a very stupid way to
borrow money is over extending your creditcard, because now you are paying twenty
nine percent or thirty percent interests,which used to be usury. You couldn't

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do it. It was against thelaw. It was a crime. Those
days are still gone. And thebottom line is, and this is the
one that's the toughest, is thatthe data that is received there is let
me look this up. There isan article that was written that is quoted

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constantly about the use of cash.There was a writer for the Washington Post
who went in and bought a bunchof bananas from Target, and it was
twenty nine cents. And he wentahead and put his card in, which

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you can do if you do amachine, you can put in anything.
And he said, the amount ofdata they got far more than what they
got in selling the bananas. Imean, that is a nothing where the
data they get from our credit cardsis so insanely valuable. And then also
small businesses get nailed because small businessesreally don't accept cash. It's it's and

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that's why you're saying this. Whybecause it's expensive with cash. It's you
know, you've got cash registers theirsecurity. The money is easy to steal.
There's one small business that got rippedoff five times. Okay, we're
on and with credit cards, it'sall done for you. The only problem
is a small business has to paymoney to the credit card companies, but

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you're paying for it. We're movinginto a cashless society big time. Go
to Disneyland, they accept cash.Go to Angel Stadium, no cash,
only credit cards. We move ona Friday to our normal segment with Steve
Gregory. Steve who is a newspersonhere, award winning newsperson and he is

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the host and the creator of Unsolved, and that's tomorrow night, seven to
nine pm. Steve broke a storyyesterday about the LAPD officer who, during
the course of an altercation, gothis finger bit off. Now that's rather
unusual, so I understand now heis retiring and going to be a woodshop

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teacher. I get that. Iam so glad that your sense of humor
and style of humor it's not changedin the almost twenty years I've known you.
Jokes are as bad now as theywere then. Thank you. I
greatly appreciate that, right, Andjust I want to do a quick,
uh, just a very quick storyabout Steve with I always talk about his

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contacts in the uh, the policeforces. As I'm sitting going to lunch
with Steve and he gets a calland he goes, yes, or and
it was some high ranking member ofsome police force. Steve wouldn't even tell
me because he's crazy about keeping sourcesclose to his vest. And he goes
yeah, and he turned to me, he goes, A story is breaking
right now and no one has evenshown up yet. I got the first

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phone call, and I'm going,wow, I mean that's impressive. So
you broke this story. Yes,yeah, it fell into my lap as
I was driving to an appointment.Van. I've been there when that happens,
by the way, Yeah, right, So that's exactly what happened.
And and so you know, Igot this and I'm looking looking at it,
and you could tell it was someonewho texted while they were driving or

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was doing the you know, thevoice to text, because the language was
all like jacked up and the adjective. Everything was all miss up. It's
like sergeant finger bitten off and aton Metro, I'm like, what you
know, and I'm so nice,start making the calls. Come to find
out, yesterday, late morning yesterday, a sergeant and these two officers were

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doing patrol as they always do.Now. LAPD is one of three of
the law enforcement agencies that actually arein charge of security for Metro. The
Los Angeles County Sheriffs Department manages probablytwo thirds of it, and the other
third is split between the Long BeachPolice Department the LAPD. So they were
on routine patrol on the Red Lineand they noticed somebody on the train that

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had well the sources had told methat they had a meth pipe and other
drug paraphernalia. So they approach andin doing so, the train was coming
into the Santa Monica Vermont station inEast Hollywood, and as they were doing
this, the individual got agitated,and then they were trying to escort this

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guy off the train when a struggletook place. And during the struggle,
as you mentioned, he somehow thesergeant turned around and somehow during this scuffle
put his right hand over on thisguy and the guy's mouth and the man's
right pinky met and the man chewedand knawed off a part of that pinky.

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Now I could see a bite thatgoes all the way through to the
bone. I mean, you canimagine that, but chewing off a finger,
I mean that reaches another level.So it was characterized to me that
it wasn't the first report was chewedoff the finger, so I'm imagining down
all the way to the base right. But apparently it was a portion of

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it, So I think it wasprobably up to the first knuckle. I'm
sure that's probably. I don't knowthat for a fact. But they took
the guy to Los Angeles US Medical, La County US Medical, and unfortunately
doctors were not able to Reattach.And I have it on very good authority
that this guy had such a greatsense of humor about it. The sergeant

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that he said, quote, I'llnever be able to do the doctor evil.
That is hilarious. I thought thatwas pretty fat, pretty fine,
and he took it all in stride. So now the officer, the sergeant
was taken over to La County USAMedical and sadly they were not able to
Reattach. The missing part of thefinger, the pinky, the right pinky.
But they were able to arrest theguy for mayhem, which I thought

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was interesting. That's an interesting charge. Mayhem goes back to common law.
I mean it goes back hundreds andhundreds of years English common law. And
then refusal to obey commands lawful commandsand assault on a peace officer. So
not sure. They didn't give theidentity of the man, but the other
two officers were not injured. Butthis also goes to part and parcel of

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what the bigger problem is on theMetro, and that is, you know,
security is just it's just bad.Right now, I think the Metro
board is having to really rethink thisbecause other media outlets are starting to finally
report on the high rates of crimeon metrocase you did, you did this
story about the ambassadors on the Metrowhere they wear these vests and uh,

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that is that helping at all?Has that move the needle? Well,
it's kind of too soon to tellyou. In all fairness to them,
they just rolled out the program.But the idea is they want people to
feel safe because there is a smallfaction of of an ad hoc committee that
is saying that people are intimidated byhaving armed presence on the trains and on

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the buses. Now, that's notwhat other polling shows. Other polling shows
more than seventy almost eighty percent ofpeople prefer Yeah, that's true. I
mean, just a quick story isthat, you know, I'm from Brazil
and I used to go back alot, visit friends and family. Has
been a lot of years, butcrime is so prevalent that one of the

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few places that people can go toor shopping malls, shopping centers which are
surrounded by cops with automatic weapons,actually army people, and that's where they
feel safe and they go that's whatI want. Yeah, And it's just
it depends how you look at it. When Jacob and I did a ride
along with the Elle County Sheriff's Department'stransit bureau and we walked up and down

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the train and walked around, Ican't tell you how many people consistently walked
up to the deputies thanking them forbeing there. I mean, everything I
observed it was quite the opposite.But what would you have at play here,
I mean, quite honest, isyou've got a faction of anti cop
people that are doing everything in theirpower to eliminate any sort of visual presence

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of law enforcement in favor of amore because now the Metro boards wanting to
they literally want counselor and clinicians onthe trains to help the homeless that have
camped out on these trains. Andwhile people are trying to commute to work,
you got clinicians over there trying tohelp someone who's foaming at the mouth
after having just odeed on drugs,trying to talk him through how to get

(34:14):
better. That's the vision the Metrohas for the future. Yeah, well
that's California. That's how we dealwith crime and our society. As a
matter of fact, it segues inthe next story, and that is how
let's just say a lot of peopleare arguing that this view of being anti
police and pro criminal basically dressing upas George Gascone for Halloween, well it's

(34:42):
a mess. Yeah. So theSan Bernardino County Sheriff, Shannondikas put out
an OpEd the other day. Buthe and I had set down a while
back and had a really good oneon one interview about his view of how
things have been going. And we'rereaching that point now where Props forty seven
and fifty seven respectively, maybe oneoh nine are Now we're starting to see
the impact that those reform laws havehad because remember, combined together, they've

(35:07):
done a early release. They've reclassifiedfelons felonies into misdemeanors then, which allows
early release. So what's happening arethe prisons are shedding their populations and they're
putting these people on parole. Wellthey're no longer under the thumb of the
parole people, so they have togo into the counties of California, and

(35:30):
the county probation offices have to absorball of those people in an already overwhelming
infrastructure. And so Shannondikes, thesheriff of sam Bernardino County, says,
listen, folks, this is real. There's a problem. We went from
having maybe one officer or deputy involvedshooting the year to now two a month,

(35:52):
and they just had four in Februaryhere and cut one Tyler. He
kind of lays it all out onthe numbers of parolees in his county.
And so when you think about thethings that we're dealing with, a lot
of our social problems in terms ofhomelessness, mental health issues, and violence
and crime. There are seven thousandfelons that are running our streets right now.

(36:13):
I can tell you from parole thatfive hundred and fifty two of those
are mine here in Sanmardino County.In other words, this is where they
are domiciled. It's just we don'thave any idea where they are at this
point in time because they've abscounded.Abscounded meaning they're just they're out there.
And what Sheriff Dycas is trying tosay is that there are there's no place

(36:35):
for these people to go. There'sno services. So when you've got someone
who just serve time in prison andthen they're early released, there's no transitional
programs for them. So now theygo right back to a life of crime.
This is what the sheriff and otherlaw enforcement have been saying. They'll
go live on the streets. Andthen the big trend in the last few
years has been for these felons tointegrate into homeless camps because they're under tectable,

(37:00):
wow, and because no one's botheringthe homeless camps. And then so
what you've got now in San BernardinoCounty seven thousand parolees from the state prison
system. And that's San Bernino County, just San Brino, which is not
a hugely populous county, with almostsix hundred of them unaccounted for. Wow.

(37:21):
But could Prop forty seven pass againtoday? You think, I think,
Well, here's the thing. You'vegot a supermajority still in the legislature,
so it would probably pass, butwould be alone in the legislature.
Would I don't know if it wouldbe public opinion. Yeah, no,
no, no, not with what'sbeen going on. And he said there
is a direct correlation with the spikeand gun related crimes and violent crimes and

(37:43):
Props forty seven and fifty seven.The answer Arizona and breaking up rocks.
I'll tell you. Well. Youknow, the thing about Sheriff dCas is
that he is all for reform whereit's necessary. He says, I get
it. He said, if youwant to let someone out, you know,
I get it. You've got someonein our want to charge and they're
in their fifty years. I getit. But you better have a plan

(38:04):
for them, and you better havea pipeline so that they can easily transition
back into society. Okay, let'squickly move over move into Unsolved Tomorrow night.
Yep, another episode tomorrow night fromseven to nine in our new time
slot. That's okay, No,no, no, we're in our we're
in our hiatus right now. Yeah, but you but if you've missed it,
it's still going on. Oh no, no. Our download numbers are

(38:27):
still very robust and we a lotof people like to download on the iHeartRadio
app. So we've got a lotof exciting cases coming up that we're working
on now, Jacob and I andso it's um uh yeah. And then
there's an interesting one I'll have totell you off air that we're working on
now that is just mind blowing.Okay, So when we come back,
what Steve is going to mention offair, I will share with you as

(38:49):
as soon as we come back,I'll sue you, of course you will.
Now fun part, It's Foody Fridaywith Neil. Neil is heard two
tomorrow on the Fork Report from twoto five pm and his social addresses at
Fork Reporter Morning Neil, morning,buddy, Hey, do you know how
that lapd how they ended up catchingthat guy? I can't wait, he

(39:15):
fingered him. He goes h yeah, it's very good. No, No,
what's yeah, you know, notbad. I'm glad. I'm glad
the officers okay, yeah, yeah, and I would have that job.
No, And I had to makethe joke, of course, about his
next job is going to be ahigh school wood shop teacher. Of course
I was going in when all thecredential needed. Yeah. So we just
keep on going and going and goingwith that, all right, So when

(39:38):
we do foodie Friday, it's allabout food. So neil I, you
know, this story actually makes senseas far as I'm concerned. And the
question is to salt or not tosalt. Yesterday I was with my family,
we had lunch. I was ata restaurant that I really like and

(39:58):
got a big plate of French friesside dish and just grabbed the pepper because
that's all I put on French friesand eggs. I don't put salt.
You know, a lot of peopledo that because it kind of tricks your
brain to assume that both salt andpepper are on there, and a lot

(40:19):
of people that want to cut backsalt on their diet, they pepper things
only. Yeah, it's actually it'san actual thing. Yeah, no,
it is for me because you know, how much salt do we use anyway
in the food that we eat.I mean, at least what we need
a day, oh yeah, andthen some especially if you eat out.
All right, So the question isdo you salt do you not salt?

(40:42):
I think that if you one.If you've noticed when you go out to
eat, the little glass containers ofyour salt and pepper are starting to go
away. You'll find them in dinersand the like, but most really nice
restaurants are starting to get rid ofthem. You most chef lean on the
salt anyways. I mean it's alayered process. They're trying to find that

(41:06):
perfect balance. And if it's notsalty enough for you, go see your
doctor to see if you're anemic,because you've got plenty of salting things.
I don't think it's necessary in themajority of the time if you're going out
to a nice restaurant, if you'reat a diner or something, sure you
might want to salt something up.Always taste it first, but yeah,

(41:28):
it's considered sort of tacky these daysto resalt something that's been salted by a
chef. Depends on the quality ofthe place. You are, and if
they're on the table, then sure, go ahead and salt, but always
taste things first, and all jokesaside. If you're salting all those things,

(41:51):
check and see if if you're bleedinginternally or something. Because most people
I have found jokingly that I've said, hey, go talk to your doctor
have found out they were a kneemick or something because they saw so much
of their food. So question aboutbutter and I and the question is should
butter be a refrigerator or not?Refrigerator or not? And let me tell

(42:14):
you. Anne just told me shenever refrigerates butter. I never refrigerate butter
when I'm using butter. And Iwas at with my nieces and nephews I
don't know about a year a yearand a half ago, and they take
the butter out of the refrigerator andtry to spread it and use it,

(42:35):
and of course it's a disaster onbread. And I said, just leave
it out. And next time Isaw them, I think it was my
niece was in the hospital. Asthey come, no, no, she
looked at me and said, Bill, that was life changing, literally life
changing to keep the butter on thecounter. So how safe it is?

(42:59):
It at temperature or sitting in abutter dish. It's fine, okay,
I mean, there you go.Here's the here's the reality. You're going
to go through it more quickly thanit is going on average, than it
is going to go bad. Yeah, the oils go rancid, and you
can tell when they go rancid,they smell bad. If it's melting down

(43:22):
to liquid form it's too hot outside. But the reality is it's it's fine.
How long? Thank you? There'sthat topic, and I mean it
really People ask me this all thetime. There's different people that will say
two weeks. Some people will sayeven thirty days. It can last on
there. It's Americans do it actuallymore than others. You're gonna You can

(43:47):
also start getting into the minutia andstart saying, well, how much butterfat
is in there and all these things, but in butter, well butter fat.
No, it's not funny, man, But it depends you have milk
solids in there. If you're askingwhat I do, we do both.

(44:09):
I keep one out on the counter. I don't keep it in direct sunlight.
But that thing's not lasting very long. My wife doesn't even eat dairy,
but between Max and I, yeah, that's gonna last maybe a week
and on toast or whatever if I'mcooking, throwing something in there, and

(44:30):
then the we have some that isin the refrigerator. And I've never gotten
sick off of butter ever, andI'm growing up. I don't think we
ever refrigerated it. Yeah, Annewas that. We were just talking about
the fact that she uses a lotof butter and keeps it out and I
said, try the Irish butter andshe said, really Irish butter. The

(44:52):
carry gold butter, which I love. And what's the difference and people I've
got for people that use butter andnot sound like I get free carry gold
butter. A well, I'm certainlygoing to ask for it now. No,
I use it too. Yeah,European butter, and there's different rates
of the amount of fat that's usedin it. Quite honestly, I know
you said, oh, one hundredbutter fat. Well, no, there's

(45:15):
there are they there are levels offat in there, and the percentage of
is what makes it that really lovelycolor and everything else that you're seeing when
you get that. But European buttersare going to be a little different.
They're going to have more butterfat inthem. Carry Gold is one of the
ones. It's probably one of themost popular butters right now. And we

(45:36):
use that too, don't It's everyoneassumes that because it's fatter, it's going
to be better in baking and things. Not necessarily because it will create different
structure in a cookie, and youhave to know when you're using it and
while you're using it. But forspreads and things like that, it's it's
fantastic. The other day, Iwas at Costco. How unusual that one

(45:59):
is? Shocker handle a Costco andyeah, it's like Norman Shears. They
all go, hey, yeah,it's um. And I walked around because
I was hungry and I wanted tohave lunch, so I stopped over and
started, you know, walking aroundthe food department and eating little samples.
And I noticed for the first timeItalian butter that Costco has and that I

(46:20):
had never seen before. Well,you can have. The funny thing is
go to Italy and ask for butterat a restaurant. Oh, that's not
butter, they don't. They've gotolive oil. That's true. When you
think it is kind of weird,now they'll give it to you. But
it's not they give you butter.What are they using butter on? Well,

(46:42):
on France they have butter, yes, but there they make cuissans.
That's you don't need butter on croissans, No you do, Yeah, they
are butter. So they do alot of lemonade. But in Italy,
what are you using butter on?They use olive oil. Well, they
sell it to Costco and then toaround a cell. To me, I
have to try the Italian butter.I do because I'm assuming European butter.

(47:06):
It's not like we make butter hereon a huge industrial commercial level. It
depends. Sometimes they sell you stufflike that and say, oh it's better,
and grass we go, yeah,let's do this. But really it's
a better of the fat, thebutter fat and the milk solids and the

(47:27):
makeup of the butter. Yes,small batch butter is wonderful. But quite
honestly, it's not hard to makebutter at your house. If you wanted
to make it, Oh churning butter, Oh you can. It's very very
pioneer. You you take the oldbutter press and the butter churn and just
go for it. Yeah, you'refine. You could do it with your
mixer, your own butter, It'llbe fine. Okay. Uh, let's

(47:52):
end up with Wendy's chili. It'spopular enough to go to the grocery store
to people like that, only thatmuch. If you're Tim Conway Junior,
you do he loves the chili.Actually, Wendy's chili is really tasty.
And they're not just throwing this outbecause they want to see if people like

(48:13):
it. I'm sure they've done theirhomework. It's been one of those things
that people have loved for a longtime, and Wendy's is out there saving
lives with it now canned, Soyeah, you can find it at your
local grocery store. Huh. Youthink Wendy's ever going to go to round
Burgers and square Buns? Probably not. Probably not. They've kind of gotten

(48:37):
their their formula down right now.It's pretty well down. Shannon, I
was in France with my parents along time ago, and I went to
use the restroom. When I cameback, we had just got there and
my dad says, Shannon, wehave a crisis. And I said,
what's the crisis, Dad, what'sgoing on? He's like, they don't
have salt and they don't have butter. Well, he had asked for salt

(49:00):
and butter upon sitting down before evenordering his try sending back food in France.
You see how that Oh my gosh, yeah, it was a situation.
You know, the first when Iwent to France, I had a
French Canadian girlfriend, obviously a wholelot younger, and I was told how
rude was it Bill Carroll's wife orit was not? That's it. That's

(49:23):
a very good right, that's avery good point. And I literally the
first thing, the first phrase Ilearned and I did this, and I
shouldn't have done. This is toany rude waiter is your mother was a
Nazi collaborator during the war, wasn'tshe. You know, you're one of
those people who should not be ableto leave the country like unfortunately for us.

(49:44):
You shouldn't be shared. You shouldnot have a passport because you go
to places and then people think thatAmericans are like you. Yeah, it's
tough. What is what are youguys? You think I'm kidding? No,
I know you're not. What areyou and Gary doing today? On
the show? Um? Okay,well, Mike Pennce testifies, do you

(50:05):
hear about those teenagers who threw therock through the windshield in Denver. And
people are terrible, aren't they?Um Annhuser Bush is doing a one eighty
on its Uh, it's branding.And we can't say guys at work anyway
and anymore when we're talking about ladies. Apparently the millennials or the gen z
whatever, they are, the newones, the new people, they don't

(50:28):
they don't like it when they're referredto as guys. If they're I do,
I'd say you guys. You know, just a group of people that's
come on, we've really gone crazynow. Well it's no well we know
that it's on. How is homeless? Oh? We talk Anne and I
did a thing this morning. It'sno longer poor people. It's unbanked.

(50:49):
Oh, honest to god, that'sa thing financially unadjacent. That's very good
too crazy. All right, that'scoming up. You don't want to miss
it. Gary and Shannon, I'llsee you tomorrow morning, eight o'clock.
I will see you. You'll hearme on Handle on the Law eight to
eleven o'clock. Shannon, have agood show. This is kf I Am
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