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August 24, 2024 • 33 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to kf I Am six forty the Bill
Handles show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Well, our
good friend Rudy Giuliani, he went into bankruptcy and he
had all kinds of problems when he filed for bankruptcy,
and there was talk of the bankruptcy not going forward.

(00:21):
The bankruptcy judge is saying, no, thank you, I am
not going to discharge you from your debts.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
What a lot of people don't know about.

Speaker 1 (00:30):
You file for bankruptcy and you list your assets, and
you list your debts and list the amount of money
that you earn, and the bankruptcy court has to look
at all the documents and determine, yep, we're going to
go ahead and liquidate, which means you're out of it

(00:51):
completely and all the creditors just walk away and there's
nothing they can do. Or usually it's a reorganization, which
means we're going to take all of your debts and
put him in a pile and figure out how much
you owe per creditor over what amount of time and
what interests.

Speaker 2 (01:11):
For example, let's say of a real estate lease. Well,
still sticky to the.

Speaker 1 (01:14):
Lease, but reduce the amount maybe increase the time to
pay for it or pay it, reduce the interest rate,
basically rewrite the lease that happens during a reorganization. Also,
the judge can say that the creditors get thirty cents
on the dollar and that's it, and the creditors suck
it up. Now, obviously you have to be very honest

(01:34):
about this. It's all under the penalty of perjury and you.

Speaker 2 (01:38):
Have to cooperate.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
Well, here comes Rudy Giuliani, who has not cooperated from
day one. He is obfuscated. This is the judge saying this,
by the way, in his decision to say no, no, no,
I'm not going to let you go bankrupt.

Speaker 2 (01:52):
Nope, you've obfuscated.

Speaker 1 (01:55):
You have delayed in giving the court documents, have eliminated
documents that were asked for, delayed everything, and based on
your behavior, no bankruptcy.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
Thank you very much. You're done. Get out of here. Okay.
Couple things. That means that the amount of money that Juliani.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
Owes still is owed, and he cannot hide behind the
bankruptcy laws, and everything he owns is liable to be
picked up by his creditors, and that's going to be
everything he owns. The only thing he has left is
a couple of pieces of property. A couple of residents
is one in New York, one in Palm Beach, Florida,

(02:40):
worth about eleven million dollars, he says, some pretty high
end property. What he owes is one hundred and fifty
three million dollars, about twenty people in businesses, including the
big one, to two women a mother and a daughter,
who were election workers who he out right admitted or

(03:01):
outright accused of committee fraud. You guys lied, you committed
fraud in favor of Joe Biden, and without any proof,
he went publicly with that. He slandered them, and they
got a huge award. I think they got a one
hundred and something million dollar award. And they got death threats,

(03:21):
big time death threats, which were not appreciated to say
the least. That and the court took that into account too.
So at this point Julian is gonna have nothing.

Speaker 2 (03:34):
By the way, he lost his job as a talk
show host.

Speaker 1 (03:37):
He was on WABC, which was the premier or one
of the premier radio stations in New York.

Speaker 2 (03:44):
Talk stations.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
He lost his job, and he was making hundreds of
thousand dollars for a one hour show.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
But that was a mercy stoop.

Speaker 1 (03:51):
That was advertisers coming in and those that were politically
in tune with Juliani and his crowd, and they bailed
out and the station bailed out.

Speaker 2 (04:01):
He basically has nothing.

Speaker 3 (04:02):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:03):
He makes a little bit of money with appearances and
going to what rallies, and I guess a little bit
of consulting, but certainly nothing like what he did. And
here's the interesting part. And he lost his license, he's
been disbarred, and he's still sitting on some criminal charges.
And as I've told you many times, I know someone

(04:25):
who knows someone that is actually connected to Giuliani. And
I asked this person two things. Number One, how did Giuliani,
America's mayor, get caught.

Speaker 2 (04:36):
Up in this? How is that possible?

Speaker 1 (04:38):
This guy single handedly took down or almost single handedly
took down the mafia in New York when.

Speaker 2 (04:44):
He was the US attorney there.

Speaker 1 (04:48):
And two, who was considered America as mayor when he
ran for New York and ran New York for a
period of time. He went from that to this? And
I asked, how how is that possible? Well, he got
caught up in the Trump orbit. And when you're caught
up in the Trump orbit, that's it. You've you have
drunk the kool aid. And that's the kind of charisma.

(05:11):
Forget about the politics of this. That's the kind of
charisma that Donald Trump has that those people around him,
and he has the ability to garner unbelievable loyalty. The
other question I asked is is Juliani at all remorseful
or at least feels bad for himself and lost everything

(05:32):
as a result of his actions politically? And I will
tell Nope, He's going down as a true believer. He
thinks every bit of it was worthwhile. Losing his license,
losing everything he owns, not being able.

Speaker 2 (05:47):
To work, every bit of that is worthwhile. Wow. So anyway,
no bankruptcy for Rudy Giuliani.

Speaker 1 (05:55):
Can he appeal it? Yeah, absolutely, he can appeal it.
He has to put up one hundred and forty million
dollars ball to keep these two women from grabbing everything
he owns.

Speaker 2 (06:07):
And that's just the start, all right.

Speaker 1 (06:09):
The number we're taking some phone calls eight hundred five
two zero one five three four eight hundred five two
zero one five three four uh Renee Hello.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Renee, Hi Bill.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
I hired a contractor to do an earthquake retrofit for me,
and it turns out he's not licensed, he did a
substandard job, he grossly overcharged me by over twenty thousand dollars.
And then I had I discovered this from a bona

(06:43):
fide retrofitter who said, in order for them to come
in and undo and repair what he this guy did,
would charge me, they would charge twelve thousand. So that's
on top of the overcharge that I got from the
other guy. Is do I have any legal recourse?

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Sure, you go after the contractor who is unlicensed, the
contractor who did a horrible job that overcharged you. Yeah,
you got a case against him now and that's a winner.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Now, how do you collect? You're gonna sue, You're gonna
get the judgment. Now, how do you collect?

Speaker 4 (07:19):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
God don't either.

Speaker 1 (07:21):
And so we go back to how did you hire
an unlicensed contractor? Did you look up his license when
he gave it to you.

Speaker 4 (07:29):
No, he was highly recommended from a friend who insisted
that he did have a license, that it was under Okay, call.

Speaker 1 (07:35):
Your friend and start. And you call your friend and
go Why why did you say that? Clearly it's no friend.
I mean, why would your friend even say that, yes,
he has a license.

Speaker 2 (07:47):
How do your friend know? You don't want to you
ask the contractor, I want to see your license.

Speaker 1 (07:52):
Oh, and I want to see the bond that you
have put up as a licensed contractor.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
So if he does screw up, you go after the bond.
I mean, you did it all wrong, Renee.

Speaker 4 (08:02):
You know that, I know, I know.

Speaker 2 (08:04):
Yeah, and it's probably gonna cost you. Let's say, if
the retrofit ends.

Speaker 1 (08:09):
Up costing you twelve thousand dollars, and when you talk
about retrofit, you're just talking about the bottom near the foundation, right,
and that's it, like a creep wall, right, yes, okay,
that is to pay twenty thousand dollars or something like
that is completely insane.

Speaker 4 (08:25):
Well, he actually charged over twenty six thousand.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
It's completely insane. And you didn't get other bids. You
didn't get other bids.

Speaker 4 (08:33):
No, okay, all right, trust him.

Speaker 2 (08:36):
Yeah, you can't do that. You can't do that.

Speaker 3 (08:40):
I know.

Speaker 2 (08:40):
I'm sorry.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
You probably lost all your money or at least, yeah,
you lost probably all the.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
Money you gave him. You know, it's a good lesson,
good lesson.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 6 (08:57):
Hi Dennis, good morning. I'm calling about my grandson. He
worked for Amazon for four years, have high autism. When
he first got hired, he put down and had a handicap.

(09:17):
About do you know what Amazon got out here in Ontario?
They got like two big buildings where we where working
for almost for four years. Was kind of like they
do the paperwork and I mean the paper goods and
stuff like that. And about six months ago they told
him he could transfer to the other buildings what they

(09:39):
got all the bigger stuff and so the trainding in
packaging where they take this out and they put he
put it in the box. Well, if anything comes out
of the order, he just can't handle it, you know,
He's get confused. And so he was doing about uh

(10:03):
two hundred on a shift and they wanted four hundred.
So they fired him because he he can't do it.

Speaker 2 (10:11):
Mm hmm Okay, So.

Speaker 6 (10:14):
I wonder and about he going to get transferred to
another place where he put the stuff on the shelf.
But last week they fired him.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
Okay, so he did that.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
So he did the he did the first job for
four years without a problem.

Speaker 2 (10:30):
Do I have that right?

Speaker 6 (10:31):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (10:31):
Okay, yes, when he put down he had a handicap
that he put down what handicap he.

Speaker 6 (10:36):
Had on the application? He said handicapped. Now I don't know.
We don't know if he if they asked him, you
could just talk to him and tell that he got autism.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
Well, I mean, you know, it's kind of hard for
people who are non medical folks to make that diagnosis.

Speaker 2 (10:54):
What's that autism and what's not? So here's the should tell.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
You said they offered him another position. Did they tell
him he has to go to the other position? They
just offered it to him, he accepted it. He couldn't
do that work. And then you're saying that it was
a third position that he accepted and he can't do
that work.

Speaker 6 (11:17):
Correct, Well, we don't know because they fired him. He
going to get that in position in two weeks where
they put this stuff on the shelves.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Okay, Well, I mean I don't think it really well,
it probably does matter as to whether he can do
the job or not.

Speaker 2 (11:32):
I don't think there's much there.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
I really don't, because there's making as many accommodations as possible.
I think that what you can hang your hat on
is the fact that he had a job for four
years and was doing it appropriately and then they transferred
him or he was not doing it appropriately, and they said, well,
try this one, and from what you say, he didn't

(11:55):
do that one appropriately.

Speaker 2 (11:57):
And now he is up for a third one.

Speaker 1 (12:01):
And you're saying all of this happened as a result
of his autism, and you're saying, it's just easy to
tell he's autistic, and so they hired him with autism,
and now they're firing because of autism.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
And as far as they go ahead, I.

Speaker 6 (12:16):
Don't think different because of autism because you can't.

Speaker 2 (12:20):
Keep up with the don't understand that he can't.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
What you're saying is he can't keep up because he's autistic. Right,
you've decided that. I mean, okay, I mean that may
be true. I mean it could be he can't keep
up because he can't keep up. I mean, there are
plenty of people that are let go because they just
don't make the grade. And Amazon's being accused of really
pushing people to the ultimate limit. There's a there are

(12:44):
lost yeah, right, So yeah, I mean it's you know,
Amazon has some issues.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
Well, you know, clearly, Do I think it's something there?

Speaker 1 (12:52):
No, Do I think you ought to talk to an
employment discrimination attorney.

Speaker 2 (12:57):
Because I'm not one? Yeah, I do.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Because there may be some case law, there may be
some judgments and the appeals court that determined that Amazon
did wrong. And if Amazon did wrong, then the argument
is does he get money? Does he get reinstatement? So
it's time for an employment discrimination attorney.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
There you go?

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Ah, right, Walker, Hella Walker, welcome to handle on the law.

Speaker 2 (13:26):
You see Walter or Walker, I said, Walker, But it's
a swalter. That's okay too.

Speaker 7 (13:31):
Yeah, Hi, I go okay. I have a house. I
have a view of like an La Harbor, long Beach Harbor,
all the way down to the coast to data Point.
I have a view of the ocean. And I'm retired
now and when I was working a lot of times
I come home there's a new satellite dish on the
roof next door on the apartment buildings on the lower
side my house. Is there anything I could do to

(13:54):
get rid of those?

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Let me ask you, when you talk about satellite dish,
you talk about those little ones that are about twelve
is in diameter that stick out on porches.

Speaker 7 (14:02):
There's numerous seems like the buildings like stepped down the hill.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Okay, no, I understand, all right, so you're not talking
about these massive, big communication satellites, all right, all right,
So you now have instead of having an unobstructed view
of the harbor, you now have an unobstructed view of
a bunch of satellite dishes. Correct, yes, okay, how do
you like your satellite dishes?

Speaker 2 (14:29):
How do you like to look at all?

Speaker 1 (14:31):
That's a tough yeah, I know, but congratulations, that's your
view now. Unless there is an ordinance, unless there is
an h o A that provides that views will not
be obstructed, they can do it. Yeah, you don't have
You don't have a right to a view unless there

(14:52):
is a law or unless there is an agreement with
when they pull the permit, for example, to build those.

Speaker 7 (15:01):
And my house is built in nineteen twenty nine and
their apartment buildings are build in the fifties, well.

Speaker 1 (15:09):
Yeah, then they didn't have to have and there was
noo hoas in those days.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
I don't think I got any place to go on
that one.

Speaker 1 (15:15):
That's why I asked you if you really like the
views of those satellite dishes. A lot of people do,
by the way, they'd much rather have a view of
a bunch of satellite dishes instead of an unobstructed view of.

Speaker 2 (15:25):
The harbor there at data point.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
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Speaker 2 (15:53):
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Speaker 2 (16:00):
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(16:27):
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Speaker 2 (16:55):
This is Handle on the Law.

Speaker 5 (16:58):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I
am six forty.

Speaker 2 (17:04):
Handle on the Law Marginal Legal Advice. Lynn. Hello, Lynn,
Welcome Yo. Lynn. She had a good question too, Lynn.
Are you there? Do you see we have a delay
and sometimes people do radio and they're told.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
Not to listen to the radio because there is a delay.
So if Lynn now comes on, she's been listening to
the radio.

Speaker 2 (17:29):
So we're gonna do a countdown. Lynn, five four, Bill, Oh,
there you go. You were listening to the radio, weren't you.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (17:39):
I was.

Speaker 8 (17:40):
Actually I'm at the gas station.

Speaker 1 (17:42):
Ah, okay, fair enough, all right, I'll let that one pends.

Speaker 8 (17:46):
Yeah, I'll let that I'm on I'm on dialysis, but
I'm still working full time.

Speaker 2 (17:51):
Okay, you're on dialysis, right, now at a gas station.

Speaker 8 (17:55):
No, I just finished dialysis.

Speaker 2 (17:56):
Ah, okay, we're working full time. Fair enough.

Speaker 8 (18:00):
I'm working full time and part of I'm an activity
assistant for an assisted living community. And part of my
job requires lifting some pretty heavy tables that I think
men should.

Speaker 2 (18:14):
Do and not me.

Speaker 8 (18:15):
Oh yeah, But my boss says that my boss is
threatening to terminate me because he says it's in my
job description that I have to do this heavy lifting.

Speaker 2 (18:25):
Okay?

Speaker 8 (18:25):
Is he able to terminate me?

Speaker 2 (18:27):
All right?

Speaker 1 (18:28):
I now have a question to ask you. All right,
let's start with a couple of questions. Are you a
very well built lesbian that has good upper body strength?

Speaker 2 (18:38):
You know, wearing the flannel shirt you're not? Okay, fair enough?

Speaker 1 (18:44):
Now, prior to you being on dialysis, did you have
to lift those boxes as part of your work, yes, okay,
And now you're saying I can't do that anymore for
medical reasons. I'm on dialysis and you're.

Speaker 8 (19:03):
Saying I'm pretty weak.

Speaker 2 (19:05):
Okay, that's fair long enough, got it? No, I know,
I understand. I understand.

Speaker 1 (19:10):
And what's going on with your work? You can't lift?
And what are they saying?

Speaker 8 (19:17):
He's saying it's part of my job description that I
do do the.

Speaker 1 (19:20):
Lifting, okay, and you're saying it wasn't part of your
job description prior to now correct, Well, I.

Speaker 8 (19:29):
Looked at my job description. It does have requirements for
heavy lifting, okay.

Speaker 2 (19:34):
But they never enforce those. Well I've only been.

Speaker 8 (19:38):
On dialysis for the last year.

Speaker 1 (19:40):
Okay, so they never enforced those. Okay, but they never
enforced those because how long were you working there.

Speaker 8 (19:46):
Lynn, I've been working there for four years okay, from
doing the lifting up until about a year ago.

Speaker 2 (19:53):
Okay, fair enough.

Speaker 1 (19:54):
So now here you go, you can't lift anymore? And
what are what's your boss saying? Then you go, I
can't lift anymore.

Speaker 8 (20:01):
Now what he's saying, that's part of my job description.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Okay he's saying. And what happens?

Speaker 1 (20:07):
Okay, So is he threatening to fire you?

Speaker 2 (20:10):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (20:11):
Okay, Well, now this gets really interesting because just the
way this pans out, uh and yeah, the argument is
you're doing this because of my inability to to do
what you're asking me to do, because of the medical
issue that I have. Okay, he's saying, No, No, that's

(20:33):
not true. It's just part of the work description. And
the argument is, well, until a year ago. I've been
and I've been on dialysis. That's when you started deciding
I'm gonna lift boxes. And I told you I was
weak and I'm on dialysis. I'm short a couple of kidneys. Correct, Yeah,
that's what usually happens. Okay, So no kidneys, dialysis?

Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yes, all right? So now what okay? Is he threatening
to fire you? Yes? Okay, all right?

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Well I think you have at least a good argument. Now,
he can fire you for any reason he wants. I
don't think he can fire you under the ADA, and
I think you're under the ADA Americans with Disabilities Act.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
I think again, I.

Speaker 8 (21:18):
Was thinking about I was thinking about that myself. I'm
wondering if that would come into it.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I don't know. I don't know. I don't do that.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
You see people call up and they assume I, number one,
have that specialty. Number two, have any idea of the law,
even question whether I am an attorney or not.

Speaker 2 (21:34):
Yes to the third one. By the way, just to let.

Speaker 1 (21:37):
You know, it is definitely time to contact an employment
discrimination attorney.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
I think there's something there. Now.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Keep in mind on the other side of that, in California,
an employer can fire an employee for any reason whatsoever,
literally walking.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
In the door and go, you know what, you're too
ugly to work here.

Speaker 1 (22:00):
I don't want to look at you anymore when I
walk in the door that that person.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Can be fired for now. You can't be fired for
certain things. One of them is.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
A religion, creed, ethnicity, gender, that sort of thing, but
for any other reason, and then there are cases even
limiting that. But it's definitely time, definitely time for a
discrimination attorney deployment discrimination.

Speaker 2 (22:25):
Hello Ann, welcome, Hey Bill.

Speaker 9 (22:29):
I had a Lemon law case and I went with
one of your advertisers. They got me an amazing settlement
than two thousand on a wold wagon. Yes, so, but
I still had I sold the car to car Nets
for eighteen.

Speaker 2 (22:46):
You sold the car, okay, now what Yes?

Speaker 9 (22:49):
So then the lawyers settled back with Volkswagen, I guess,
subtracting that, and so it went down to eighty four thousand.
But then when they gave me the settlement, they substrusted
another eighteen THO.

Speaker 2 (23:04):
They can't do.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
That, okay, if they charged you attorneys fees, they're.

Speaker 2 (23:11):
Not allowed to do that with a Lemon law case.

Speaker 1 (23:13):
It's one of the few cases that attorney's fees are
not paid out of a settlement. They are paid outside
of the settlement. The car companies pay you whatever is
negotiated and then pay them. So there is an issue here,
So you want to What I would do is check

(23:36):
with yet another Lemon law lawyer. And there's a few
out there, good ones, and there's some that advertise here
at this radio station.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Some that have some have stopped.

Speaker 1 (23:45):
But you want a second opinion, and saying, wait a minute,
this does not seem kosher to me.

Speaker 2 (23:52):
My understanding is that.

Speaker 1 (23:54):
Lawyers don't do this under the Lemon law settlements.

Speaker 9 (23:59):
Or we had to settle to get any kind of money.
So I ended up getting fifty one thousand from you.

Speaker 2 (24:05):
Had to settle.

Speaker 1 (24:05):
Wait a minute, So you went from one hundred and
two thousand and then eighty four thousand and then down.

Speaker 2 (24:12):
To fifty one thousand. Yeah, something's wrong there. You want
to talk to another Lemon law lawyer.

Speaker 1 (24:17):
Is something's wrong that doesn't make any sense, So you
definitely want a second opinion. Of course this I don't
do the Lemon law. I don't have these statutes in
front of me. I don't have the cases in front
of me. But I'll tell you what the law I
know that you don't. They don't take a percentage of
the settlement.

Speaker 9 (24:32):
Well, no, it's another percentage they're saying for a car
turn and fee.

Speaker 2 (24:36):
So what I say?

Speaker 1 (24:37):
But why do they get I understand that Volkswagens can
say if you sell the car, that reduces the amount
of our payment to you, although I don't know if
that's true or not.

Speaker 2 (24:49):
I have no idea.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
But assuming that's true, and then they turn around and
take another fee off of.

Speaker 2 (24:57):
That settlement fee, why did they do that? Yeah?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
And by the way, if you sold the car, what'd
you do through the attorney because you still own the car?

Speaker 2 (25:07):
I had the case.

Speaker 9 (25:08):
I had the case the whole time for car.

Speaker 2 (25:09):
No, I understand.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
I understand you had the case, but you had you
in fact had the pink slip. How did they I
don't understand what they had to do with you selling
the car. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (25:23):
I don't know. And yeah, you've got it, Oh yeah
I did.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
There's a lot of this I don't understand, but there
is absolutely no question.

Speaker 2 (25:30):
You need a Lemon law lawyer.

Speaker 1 (25:31):
And we've had an advertise here at the radio station.
Uh and I've spent a lot of time talking. I've
never had a Lemon law case. And frankly, uh, I
don't even know anybody who has. No, that's not true,
and got a pretty good settlement, that's true.

Speaker 2 (25:44):
Yeah, fair enough. This is Handle on the Law.

Speaker 5 (25:49):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (25:57):
Handle on the Law, the Show of Marge an old
legal advice where I Bill Handle tell you you have
absolutely no case, Al, you have an interesting one. Hello, Al, welcome,
Hello are you?

Speaker 2 (26:12):
Yes? What can I do for you?

Speaker 10 (26:15):
My ex wife and I my X wife is five
years and I and we still have a time share together. Okay, okay,
the maintenance fees are coming out of my account?

Speaker 7 (26:29):
All right, I.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Missed you on that one. Your maintenance fear coming out
of what.

Speaker 8 (26:34):
Of my account?

Speaker 7 (26:36):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (26:38):
Okay, you're out of your bank account? The maintenance fees
are coming out of correct?

Speaker 2 (26:42):
Yes, okay Oka.

Speaker 8 (26:45):
She went on the floor this last month.

Speaker 10 (26:48):
Okay, and about some more times here all right?

Speaker 2 (26:52):
And you guys are and you are separated, divorced. What
is your divorce?

Speaker 1 (26:58):
Okay, you are divorced. And she goes ahead and buys
more time shares.

Speaker 2 (27:01):
All right, now, what.

Speaker 8 (27:06):
Uh come out of my account?

Speaker 2 (27:09):
Why?

Speaker 10 (27:12):
That's what I'm calling you for?

Speaker 2 (27:13):
Hey, I got it?

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Okay, you wanna you wanta? Okay, here's a complicated legal answer.

Speaker 2 (27:17):
Close the account. Really, yeah, whatever she buys is on her.

Speaker 1 (27:28):
Jez Al, did you let me ask you a question?

Speaker 2 (27:30):
Did the two you meet at a mensa meeting?

Speaker 3 (27:34):
No?

Speaker 1 (27:35):
Come on, what my wife buys something after we're divorced
and they're still taking the money out of my account?
Stop the account, shut it down, Let her worry about it.

Speaker 10 (27:48):
But the time to share that we still share. That's
still asking.

Speaker 2 (27:52):
That's fine. I understand that. But you said she bought
additional time.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
Yes, she doesn't have the leady to buy additional time
on your behalf once you're divorced. Was it a long
minsa eating Josie? Hi, Josie, welcome.

Speaker 3 (28:14):
Yes, hello, thank you for so also doing this show.
I was referred by one of my oppersioners my cas is.
I lost my husband two years ago to COVID. I'm
battling cancer right now myself. I'm a sixty seven year
old liddle.

Speaker 2 (28:28):
And what kind of cancer do you have? Josie?

Speaker 3 (28:31):
I have the liquor Hutchkinsma, all right, when are you
gonna when are you gonna pop off?

Speaker 2 (28:38):
Here? What did the doctor say?

Speaker 3 (28:40):
So the doctor said that on going towards good the
limb notes are all strenking, I'm going to have.

Speaker 1 (28:47):
Oh good, So you're right, so you're gonna last pass
the phone call?

Speaker 2 (28:51):
All right, fair enough? Yeah, oh good, good good.

Speaker 1 (28:53):
Okay, So you've got you've got cancer and what your
husband died, died.

Speaker 3 (29:00):
And he changed without my knowledge, his IRA and put
his son that was never a part of our life
as beneficial. So my surprise when I went to claim,
you know, the IRA of almost nine hundred thousand, Yeah,
I found out that I wasn't beneficier. So I hired
an attorney, right, and the attorney to represent me, I
signed a contract at whatever he recovered if we went

(29:24):
to court. It was forty percent.

Speaker 2 (29:25):
Yeah, so I'm near.

Speaker 3 (29:28):
So the judge granted, we didn't take it to court.

Speaker 2 (29:31):
We settled the day of the court.

Speaker 3 (29:33):
The judge just signed final papers that fatality has to
roll over half of.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
The U right, No, you got half of it. I
got it, okay, which is fair? All right, so you
got exactly what you're entitled to.

Speaker 3 (29:45):
So now my attorney is he says it's negotiable, but
he wants out of the fourth fifty that I'm going
to get, he wants one hundred and eighty thousand plus.

Speaker 2 (29:55):
Okay, how much is that? What percentage is that? Forty percent?

Speaker 1 (29:59):
I think yeah, attorneys do that, so, Josie, that's what
attorney's charged when they take a case on contingency.

Speaker 2 (30:08):
You when you signed a retainer agreement, did you pay
money upfront?

Speaker 3 (30:12):
No?

Speaker 2 (30:12):
No, See, it's a contingency agreement.

Speaker 1 (30:14):
The attorney says, I will take, and forty percent is
right in line for a case going to trial or
going past the settlement stage.

Speaker 2 (30:24):
I mean, when you're at trial, that's basically going to trial.

Speaker 3 (30:29):
So he also took because he recovered they made my
steps and gave me back everything he stole because you
love me.

Speaker 2 (30:36):
Okay, all right?

Speaker 3 (30:38):
Coins and he denies it. But we were able to
get the silver coins back. But my attorney said, when
he brought the coins back to my house at we
went to court, he.

Speaker 2 (30:48):
Said, well, I'm entitled to No, I don't think he is.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
I don't think he's entitled to help you get back
stolen goods unless that was part of the court case
unless part of suing the Sun inclusive of those coins,
was it?

Speaker 2 (31:06):
I assume them?

Speaker 1 (31:07):
No, I understand, But was that part of the settlement? Yes, okay,
well then that's then it's not separate. It's part of
the settlement. You get four hundred and fifty thousand dollars
half of the IRA, and you get the coins, and
that's what they settle to.

Speaker 2 (31:23):
Yeah, he gets forty percent of that, so you got more.

Speaker 1 (31:26):
Then you got more than half the settlement because you
also got the coins.

Speaker 2 (31:29):
Correct.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
I got sixty percent of the coins and he got
forty I understand.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
Okay, is what were those coins part of I'm giving
you x number of dollars four hundred and fifty from
the IRA and an additional one hundred thousand dollars one
hundred thousand dollars worth of coins.

Speaker 2 (31:47):
Was that part of the settlement?

Speaker 3 (31:51):
We then recover the gold coins? He does, okay, when.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
You recover them, Okay, thanks for calling. I greatly appreciate
the phone call. Really love those. Now let me tell.

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