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You're listening to KFI AM six fortythe Bill Handles show on demand on the
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the Law dot com and click onthe join today tab at the top of
the page. The following is upbe recorded program. What happened in Alabama
this past week was kind of interesting. Alabama has seven congressional districts, and
six of those seven are white.Basically, we're talking about the population primarily

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white, primarily black. One isa black district that has primarily black citizens
residents in it. Alabama's twenty sevenpercent black and has one congressional district.
So lawsuits were filed. Of course, they were saying that that when the

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connrestional districts were drawn, which happensevery ten years pursuing to the census,
what Alabama did this The legislature ofAlabama, which in fact draws up the
districts, basically drew it up unfairlyblacks didn't get representation. And it went
to court and yeah, guess what, no representation. You can't have twenty

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seven percent black population and have onedistrict. I mean you draw it up
to encircle black districts or white districtsto make sure that those districts stay the
way that it does. Happens inCongress all the time when you talk about
congressional districts, Hispanic districts and whitedistricts and black districts. It happens.
But this is so blatant, Imean so insanely blatant that it's over the

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top. So the lawsuits went andAlabama, after losing appellate court, went
back and redrew its district. Samelawsuit hit. Still didn't do it right.
So after the second go round,the courts have said, uh ah,
that district has Those districts have tobe redrawn. And it went up

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to the US Supreme Court, andthe US Supreme Court said to Alabama,
no, thank you. Send itback to the lower court, which then
appointed a master a master being inthis case, I think a retired federal
judge to physically draw up the districts. You do it, one guy as

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opposed to the state legislature sits downand goes, okay, here are your
new dude, your new districts.And that's exactly what happened. Alabama now
has two black congressional districts, andas you can bab them, the Alabama
legislature, which I assume is notprobably the most liberal legislature in the states,
probably not, now has no sayin the districts. Makes a lot

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of sense. Oh okay, Oh, let's see these. Okay, Oh,
this is a fun one. Mike, Hello, Mike. Yes.
Three months ago June got stopped fornot having a seat belt and uh uh

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he gets out of the car.But I put my seat belt on as
we're going through the motion, parkingover by the gas station, and I
got a little defiant, I admitit. Bad kind of the bad part
came out of me and I said, hey, look, I got my
seatbelt on, and he says,can I see your driver's license? And
so I gave him everything, Connecticutdriver's license. I live in Connecticut,

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and then I have a cabin upin the mountains in southern californ up here
in the San Bernardino Valle County here. So he says, what's that?
He says, watch my California ID. So I give him my Connecticut driver's
license and everything. You know,I had the real ID on it and
everything, and he's and so hegives me a ticket for no seatfield and

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then he gives me a ticket fornot having a California driver's license. I
said, look, I said,I you know I live here. I
live here at part time. Andthen I you know I reside in the
East coach. He says, nowyou have his license within thirty days.
He kind of got even with mefor lying to him. I did lie
a question, and I just thoughtat all, like I said, I

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if he was there, I apologizefor the guy. Okay, I just
felt a little, Uh, what'syour question? Okay? The question is
I went down, he doesn't filethe ticket. He didn't file the ticket.
That's okay. And then the nextquestion he put down my real my

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California I d on the drivers onthe application where it's his driver's license.
Okay, California idea, it's not. He's my Connecticut all right, what's
your question? Okay? Oh,I'm just telling you that story. So
what do I do? Just keepchecking and see if they fil I guess
I got a year in a day. Yeah, you didn't file it.

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You're gonna be fine. Just ignoreit and don't lie to cops. If
I were if I were that policeofficer, Mike, I would have probably
taken out my baton and beat youto half an inch of your life.
But then that's why I'm not apolice officer. Yeah I was stupid,
Right you are, But don't worry. He didn't file it, which you're

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in luck. You didn't get aticket yet, and uh, if it's
been three months, I wouldn't worryabout it. I would just uh yeah,
keep on checking. Wow, Uh, Bill, I didn't get a
ticket. Can I fight it?Oh? Yes, yes, you definitely
want to fight a ticket you didn'tget. That's uh, that's very good.
I don't think that's what he asked, though, but I think he

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just wanted to tell the story.Uh, Peter, Hi, Peter,
welcome to handle on the law him. Mister Handel, I am a real
her. I cashed a commission checkedor my company cashed it for me and
discounted it from ten thousand down totwo thousand dollars. What reason why?

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That's that's a big one I was. I was on vacation and I'm part
owner of the company I had soldit. I stayed as a salesman for
about two years, and when Iwent on my niece's wedding, I came
back Tuesday and had a commission checkin my folder for two thousand dollars.
Okay, I got it? DidI'm assuming you asked somebody, Hey,

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what's going on? Right? Igot a little bit hot under the collar.
Okay, I understand, But whatwhat was that? I mean,
you have to ask what was saidto you? When you said what's going
on? They said, well,you have we closed this escrow for you.
I said, no, you didn't. I had my computer and my

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laptop with go over right, Sothat's okay, So that's wrong, And
that was it. We closed theescrow for you, and that's why you
lost eighty percent of your commission.Buffalock too bad. No, no,
no, no. That is thebasis of them taking eighty percent of your
commission is that they closed the escrow, of which you can prove they didn't
close the escrow, that you didit. And I won't get too technical,

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but there is forgeries of my signatureson some disclosure statements. We're or
we're not on disclosure statements. Pardonme, your signatures were or were not
on disclosure statements. They needed mysignature in addition to the buyer and the
sellers. Okay, and they signedit. They signed your signature, Yes,

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sir, oh, I don't thinkthat's a big deal because you would
have signed them anyway. I mean, that's not the end of the world.
Yeah, Now what they should havedone is hold up escrow of course
until you signed. But nobody,nobody was hurt on that one. You
were hurt on that eighty percent.What do you want I wanted? Pardon
me? What do you want?What am I on? No? What

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you want from them? Not?What do you want? Okay? Them?
Then you sue them in small claimscourt for eight thousand dollars and you
tell them exactly what you told me. And when they say, well,
we close the escrow and you don'tknow here it is, I want you're
gonna wait that way? Yeah,no, you're fine. No, you're

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fine on that and uh I no, you're you're you're fine. And there
you can argue that they signed myname, but you know that was to
your benefit. If you needed yoursignature. Yeah. Yeah, so I
think you're gonna be fine. Yeah. Okay, that was an easy one,
wasn't it. Let's see what wecan get a little little bit more
complicated than that. Uh. Thisis Handle on the Law, Welcome back

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marginal legal advice where I tell youyou have no case? Mike, Hello,
Mike, Hello, mister hello,mister handle, How are you this
small good? What can I dofor you? Well, I'm going First
off, I know I have nocase, but I question about I have
a question about a medical record thatwas deleted, which is a violation of

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something. I don't know what.Yeah, I know it's it's it's violation.
They have to you know, themedical people have to keep medical records.
And if it were deleted, I'msure it was deleted accidentally. Just
happened to someone I know. Happenedto a friend of mine. Just happened
and we were talking about it lastweek. No, it was actually changed
on purpose because I went in fora Medicare wellness exam and the report that

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was filed was set it like afull on physical, and I took it
up with my I called my doctorand I said, hey, what's this?
You know you didn't do an atthe stuff. And she says,
oh, my gosh, I justlooked at that. Of course her signature
on the bottom of it. Andshe says, I'll correct that right away.
Well, it didn't just correct it. They deleted it and substituted a

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different report. And I don't knowwhether to take this up with the director
of the medical board or through thehospitals grievance. Yeah, I mean,
let's talk about what happened to youas a result of that. Okay,
So someone deleted your medical record andput in some fake medical record. Okay,
fair enough. Probably all kinds oflaws are violated, and so all

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you can do is get money outof that, and then you can certainly
report that to the proper medical authorities, just to make sure it doesn't happen
to nail them. So there's twothings. Number one, nailing them for
doing it, at which you getnothing other than the satisfaction, and nailing
them or and or suing and askingfor money. And you're already asked for
money. You gotta have some kindof damages. Well, I don't have

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any damages, okay, So thatpart's done. So now you would just
want to go after them for doingthis. Well, you got it.
You report. Yeah, you goall the way up the you go all
the way up the food chain.You go to the director of the hospital,
you go to you go to themedical board and report them. Medical
boards. Hospitals are all licensed,they're all overseen by the state or the

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county, whichever municipality or county governmentoversees the hospitals. And that's what you
do, and you go, Okay, it's a drag, right, that's
what happens. Oh, Robert,Hi, Robert, welcome. Yes,
I'm in Connecticut, and I hadhired a company, an individual also individual

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who owns the company, to workon my nineteen thirty twenty six foot antique
wooden boat. Whooh yeah, thoseare gorgeous. Yeah, okay, all
right. What had to be doneon it was just curious, Robert.
Well, he he did. Hedid some mechanical stuff that he actually screwed

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up. Put in fabricated, hadit well, he had the ruther fabricated
installed it, did a bunch ofwork on the on the steering and it
doesn't work correctly. Fair enough,okay, he got Okay, So now
what fact now that that's going tocost me probably less than five thousand dollars,
okay, to have it fixed,and I'm thinking of suing him in

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small planes court. Absolutely. Nowin addition to that, you've worked on
the varnishing and striping and it didn'tcome out correctly. He claims that it
did, and he did it thesame way that this company that builds these
boats does it. But that's goingto cost me approximately thirteen thousand dollars to

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have it redone correctly. Now thatI can't sue in small claims court because
the only judgment that I could getwould be five thousand dollars. Right those
states it only allows five thousand.You know, it runs the gamut in
small claims. It goes all theway from literally I think twenty five hundred
dollars up to twenty five thousand dollarsdepending on the state. So it's weird.

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So yeah, Connecticut's at five grand, so you can't go beyond five
grand. Fair enough, So what'syour question? You got eighteen eighteen thousand
dollars worth of damage done by thisguy to your book? Correct my question?
Can I sue separately? Can Iknow the one no situation small claim
and the other one no Nope,it's it's coming out of the same negligence

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is coming out of the same incident. So no, you've got to well,
you got an interesting one. Yougot so you have small claims.
You're not gonna get anything over fivethousand dollars. You know that you said
it true and you have thirteen thousandtotal. Now that gets interesting because I
often talk about this. That's awobbler. If you had said Billy did

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fifty thousand dollars worth of damage,I go, that's easy. Hire a
lawyer. I mean, you gofor that one right now. If he
does two thousand or less than fivethousand dollars, that's an easy choice too.
You to go in a small claimscourt in between that, because the
lawyer is gonna cost you to threethousand dollars certainly a couple thousand dollars to
file, and to do the initialpaperwork and to make the demand letters,

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et cetera. I would do thismyself, Robert. You can do it
yourself. You can represent yourself.This is not that complicated a case.
It is I hired him, thatis. I'm sorry. But if I'm
gonna suit, I can do thatin small planes court. My yeah,
but you're only gonna get five thousanddollars. That's right, that's why I

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have to go to superior court.That is correct. But what I'm telling
you is that this is a lawsuitthat is fairly easy to prove. You
can. You can go on theinternet and get the actual template. So
you have the language, you havethe form, you have the allegations that
have to be made pursuant to law, and then you have to do the

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factual basis of all of it andwhere he screwed up and how much it
costs. That's all laid out foryou. You can do that, okay,
And then it's a question of proof, and that is how do you
prove it? Well, I wentto this other boatyard. This is what
it's gonna cost me. This iswhat he's gonna say is no, I
didn't screw up, and you justcan't say yes, he did. You're

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gonna have to bring in some proof. Bringing in proof is having a bid
from someone else that says repair screwedup. All of that. You can
do it. You can do itnow. It sounds like a dead bang
winder winner in small claims court.But you know what I would do is.
I would learn how to do asuperitory court filing. It's gonna take

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you a few hours, and forthirteen thousand dollars. I got to tell
you, for a few hours ofwork. That's a lot of dollars per
hour. Robert, Well, ateighteen thousand dollars. It's the three thousand
for the rudder and thirteen thousand forthe varnished. Oh oh, so you're
talking sixteen thousand dollars. Yeah,so you're you're not gonna leave eleven thousand
dollars on the table. Yeah,that's that's what I would do. In

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but also for their loved ones.Now I happen to be a complete wiss.
I actually go to urgent care whenI have a paper cut. I
mean it's ridiculous. That's pain forme. But for others. Pain is

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That's the Pain Game Podcast. Thisis Handle on the Law. You're

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listening to Bill Handle on demand fromKFI AM six forty. Come back to
Handle on the Law. Tabitha,Hello, Hey Bill. My parents signed
a contract with the solar company andthey ended up doing a different contract with
another solar company. But in themeantime, the first solar company did a

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mechanics fleen on the property for aroundwhat twenty five thousand dollars, And so
my question is does a mechanics sleenexpire? Is that going to be a
problem when in a title report?Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
yeah, yeah yeah. So thatwas how many years? I don't
know how much that is. Whatthey have to do is bond to the
lean and it actually forced the leanforce a legal action. You could lean

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a property, but the property ownercan say, okay, let's go,
let's go to work. Let's findout. Do you owe the money?
Do you not? Now, ifthey're suing, I'm assuming the original contract
was for twenty five thousand dollars,correct, and they're suing for the entire
amount is the first solar company?Do I have that right? Correct?
And they alter even came out tothe Yeah. Right, So they're suing
for you. They're suing for thetwenty five thousand dollars without installing anything,

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without buying anything. They're arguing eithertheir damages or twenty five thousand dollars.
Even if the contract was terminated beforethey did anything. That's going to be
a tough one to argue. Thecontract was never actually terminated. Okay,
no, it's a valid contract.Now, I understand that you have three

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days which to terminate in California,and they didn't do it. So they
signed a valid contract and then theywent to another company. Correct, yes,
Okay. Why I'm just curious,why would your parents think they could
just go up and sign with anothercompany when they have a valid contract with
company number one. My parents aregreat people, but they're not very well
educated, and they didn't really understandthe repercussions of that. They hadn't heard

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from the company, couldn't get ahold of the company, so they're just
like, oh, let's just goto another company. Okay, got it
all right, Well, you bondto the lean. In other words,
you put up a bond that isone and a half times the value of
the lean itself, So it's likea forty thousand dollars bond, which is
not that much money to do.And then what you have to do,

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and what they're going to have todo is move to expunge that Lian and
Lean will be expunged. I mean, there's no question. You can't just
because you have a contract. Imean, you could argue, we ordered
equipment, this is how much workwe did, we got involved in it.
But how much can that possibly berestocking charge? To prove that?

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Right? Yep? They okay,they have to prove all of that that
they actually went forward with the contractand if they didn't, and all they
want is twenty five thousand dollars,it's basically a negotiating ploy, is what
it is. They're gonna try toworm their way and get some money out
of them, and it won't bevery much. They have really no case,

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but they have the ability to leanthe house. And yes, the
lian has to be dealt with,and you have to remove that lian.
And if you bond to the lean, it removes the lian from the house
itself because it just transfers the leanto this bond. And then you still
want to litigate the lean. Okay, So the bond is that done through
a title company? No, No, nope, it's done through a lawyer.

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And you're gonna have to contact thelawyer that does this. But then
just look it up. You know, civil lawyer, Leans, mechanics,
leans, that sort of thing.Okay, you'll be okay, Yeah,
twenty five thousand dollars. We wantthe full amount, even though we've done
nothing. We want the full amount. Okay, that is a profitable job.
Well you collect twenty five thousand dollarsand do nothing. Boy, I

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would do that all day long,Oh for sure, Jack. Welcome to
handle on the law. Hello Jack, Hi Bill. I was driving a
three vehicle combination across the country andit consisted of a tractor, a trailer,

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and a service truck on a towbarbehind the trailer, and the trailer
broke in half and in doing socaused the wheels of the trailer to flip
up over the back of the trailer, which caused the pickup that was being
towed to get The towbar ripped offand the pickup flew up in the air

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and crashed down and got totally destroyed, but was essentially intacted. Boy,
there's a movie, are you ifyou video that? One? That would
hit the national news. It skiddedover the I was on a two lane
road and luckily nobody was coming.They went across the traffic lane and down

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in the ditch, and the othertruck just came to a grinding hall,
and so I called an outfit thatwas ten miles away, and they came
out with records, and actually afarmer came out with a loader that helped
get the thing in a condition wherea record could grab it and tow it
back to their shop. But Irented a U haul truck and went to

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their place to empty out the pickups. My personal items out of the pickup,
which I figured were all my toolsand my stuff and so anything that
wasn't attached to the pickup. Okay, Jack, this is taking a little
bit too long. So we gotto get to the point here, all

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right. Well, they basically stoleall the equipment off the truck, oh
okay, And I went to theinsurance company lot. It had none of
the equipment on it, but theyhad hinted it. I owed twenty two
thousand dollars for towing, which wasan exorbitant amount. Yeah, of course,
that's crazy. Okay. I figuredhow that they can just have everything,

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and I'm better off. The amountof money had take to come get
the wrecked truck isn't worth one.Let me let's go to the tools a
minute. How much was the valueof the stuff that was taken when you
went there to pick it up andit was not there. Over five thousand.
Okay, Well, here's what youhave. You got a very interesting

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case going on because of the stuffthey took. You're going to sue them
for five thousand dollars. But thisis out of state, right yes,
yeah, And you have to provethat that's was in the truck. You
have to prove the value. It'sgonna get really difficult. So in reality,
the only proof that's out there isyou put that stuff in storage and

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they want to charge you twenty twothousand dollars. And so did you just
tell them keep it? I'm donepretty much? No? No, did
you write? You put in writing? Oh? Not yet? Okay,
So how long has it been sincethis happened? How long has it been?

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It's been a year oo. Okay. Well, you got a couple
of problems here. Problem number one. Once you tell them I'm done,
they then have the obligation to midicatetheir damages, which means they have to
salvage everything and it'll be out ofthere. They take it to an auction
lot, they take it to ascrapyard, and your damage is stop right
there. Now. If you don'ttell them, And this is why you

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have to put it writing, becausethey're gonna lie when you say I told
them on the phone. I knowyou didn't. You prove it, you
don't. If you don't tell them, then there's a statutory provision and I
don't know what it is in thatstate of how long they hold on to
something before they sell it for scrap, and you are responsible for the storage.

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So the twenty two thousand dollars,it seems exorbitant if they were just
to take it and you salvaged itat that point, you got a couple
of days storage and you got thetransfer, and it's how much can that
be? One thousand dollars maybe?But the fact is they've held on to
it for that long and you havelet them. You're responsible for that storage.

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I'm surprised they haven't sued you yet. Have they asked for the money?
No, they've never sent me abill. Then leave it alone,
Leave it alone and hope the statutepasses. Okay, that's all you can
do. That was interesting. Ijust see the visual of all this happening

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on the road. I mean,that is pretty terrific. Debra Hi Will
Hi Hi I have a judgment ofseventy thousand plus damages and also the there's
a lien on the property, andthen I want to know what's next,

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Like, well, I don't know, Like of course people discribe it.
Well, you can theoretically you canforeclose on the property, but yeah,
I don't think you're going to beable to uh with a lien. They
don't let you. Used to beable to foreclose on stuff all the time.
Uh, you just have to nowlook at collecting, and collecting is
not that easy, Deborah. Youhave to look at bank accounts, you

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have to look at assets and goafter those. What I would do is
hire a If you don't know anyof it, I would start talking to
collection agencies. They're going to takea good chunk of it. They're probably
gonna take a third of it.But at this point, you know,
how else do you get the money? If people don't want to pay,
they don't want to pay, andif they go bankrupt on you, Debrah,
you're done. The moment they filedfor bankruptcy, you're finished. So

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how did you get a seventy thousanddollars judgment? What happened? A person
I knew acquaintance. I'm sorry,I can't. I can't hear you.
I'm losing you. I'm a person. I knew acquaintance was doing real estate
and I was interested, and theywere We did real estate, and then
on the side they said we couldinvest more money in the in the stock

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market. So he you know,he was like asking for money. Oh
and you gave it to him,all right. Yeah yeah, and by
the way, you got a judgmentagainst him for seventy thousand. Huh yeah,
did he even show up, dideven show it in court? No?
Yeah, that's you. You're you'reprobably not gonna get your money back.
Yeah, that's what you got rippedoff. And uh that's the bottom

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line. This is handle on thelaw and welcome back. Handle on the
law. Marginal legal advice where Itell you you have absolutely no case.
Grant Hello, grant welcome bill.Listen, my rich uncle died in March,
and my aunt claims that he diedwithout still paying her alimony that he

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owed for years. To complicate it, the rental properties that he owned are
supposed to go to his children,which are held by a trustee, and
the trustees not even collecting rent onthese properties. How can she get her
alimony and get rid of that?Okay? Now, when you say your
rich uncle died, how old washe when he died? He was like

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eighty two? Okay, and sohe stopped paying spousal support, which I
guess went on for life. Okay. And how much money does she say
he owed? Ten thousand dollars?Okay? So all right, let's talk
about her suit first. Okay,her collecting alimony can probably I would think,

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Uh, you have to serve him, of course. Uh is he
buried or is he? Is heburied or cremated? He's buried, Okay,
it's easier to have him served uhin the ground than it is ashes.
So it's okay, and you needpersonal service, so it's it gets
a little messy, but technically canbe done. You sort of dig him
up and you sort of put thepaper in the casket. No, that

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doesn't work, all right, Sothe estate can be sued. He can
she can collect alimony out of theestate. So that's number one. Yeah,
yeah, she can't before the estateis so can she? What's the
time one about that? Uh?You know, I don't know. I
don't know what the statute is onthat one. For espousal support. I

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don't know if you guy, hesaid, moved quickly. Yeah, I
don't. I don't know. Idon't know when did he stop paying her
spousal support? This has been anongoing you know. Okay, what's a
You go back to the last timehe was supposed to pay her, he
didn't pay her. That goes fromthere. That's when the statute actually starts
running. And I don't know howlong it is, so we can throw

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that one away. That's big.I don't know. Now, as far
as the trustee not collecting rent onthe properties, then you have the beneficiaries
under the trust immediately go into courtand have that trustee removed instantly. Okay,
because the trustee is the trustee isbreaking his or her fiduciary duty.

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The trustee cannot Yeah, no,you're absolutely right. So how big is
this a state grant? It's avery fancy, high end rental property that's
worth over a million dollars. Yeah, you got to they've got to get
they've got to get an attorney onthis trust in, a state attorney.
They have a trustee immediately removed,and one of them are going to put

(30:56):
it, are going to be namedthe trustee and then they just have to
figure out who's going to be allright, so the beneficiaries then becomes Can
the beneficiaries become their own trustee?Sure? Sure? Now that's why I
say they have to get together figureout if there are three beneficiaries, I
mean, all three could be trustees, but then all three have to agree.
So what happens if you have oryou draw it up so two out

(31:17):
of the three majority votes, youcan do. You can draft up anything
you want, but it just hasto be on paper and it has to
and you have to do it tothis point where that property is not diminishing
in value or income, which itis. So that's how you handle it.
Allan, Hello Allen, Hello Bill. Yeah, My question is I

(31:41):
recently had got a new owner formy apartment complex and a new management company.
The management company wants to charge meten dollars fee to mail in my
rent. I believe that that theproperty owner pays the management company to receive
and process rent already, so anyevent, I haven't paid it, and

(32:06):
I just sent in the rent andthey sent me a receipt deducting the fee
from the rent, So they're notallocating the full amount of the rent that
I said, Are they not infact stealing from the property owner? But
if they are, it's not yourproblem. So what you get to do
is you get to contact the propertyowner, okay, and let the property

(32:30):
owner know, Hey, this iswhat's going on. And if in fact
they're not telling you, they're gettingan extra ten dollars. How many units
are in the building? Alan thisbuilding? Ten? All right, so
it's an extra hundred bucks. Soyou know, I don't know what to
tell you. But how much isyour rent? Well, mine's only fifteen

(32:53):
and twelve? What's your What isthe market value of that rent? Allan?
What's the market value of the unionit? If you leave? How
much can they get for it?I suspect they would probably renovate it because
the apartment I live in is likethe least of it. Other other apartments

(33:15):
in the complex they put in woodfloors and fire Okay, how much do
they get for the high end apartments? Okay, I'm not sure? I
think, all right, well letme do this. Forget that, forget
that. How much under market oryou think you pay your pay I don't
know. Okay, Well, inthe end, they're saying you're not paying

(33:38):
the rent, and in the end, if they evict you because you haven't
paid, and you have to dealwith it, pay the ten bucks.
Okay, just pay it for tenbucks a month. You know, unless
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