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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell you you have absolutely no case.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, this is out of Israel, and.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Israel is being blamed for so many civilian deaths in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And the argument is, and very few people are.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Saying that Israel is not justified in attacking Hamas because
of that massacre October seventh. Where the criticism kicks in
is they have not stopped. And here you are, basically
over a year later, and Gaza has been decimated. Eighty
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percent of the buildings have just been destroyed, and virtually
the entire population has been displaced and starvation and the
only way they can live the Palestinians living in Gaza
is international aid coming in, and Israel is being accused
of stopping that aid, not letting it through, which there
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is validity to that. And some forty four thousand palest
Indians have died. Now the world doesn't talk about how
many of them are militants.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It's just men, women and children, etc.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
About a third are fighters, so that I don't care about,
but about two thirds are innocent civilians. And the problem
is is that innocent civilians are in Gaza, and it's
very difficult for Israel to target hamas when they're embedded
in the civilian population.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Okay, that's the background.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So Amnesty International, sort of a bipartisan I don't know
about that organization, just came out with the report almost
three hundred pages that says evidence gathered over nine months,
they have been able to prove or they have the
evidence that Israeli forces and government authorities have committed can
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have committed genocide under the United Nations Genocide Convention.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Straight out, they are guilty.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Israel is guilty of genocide, which is a that is
a loaded term. But israel I don't have a problem
with israel I must and I'm as pro Israeli as
they come. I don't have a problem with Israel defending itself,
but going after and not letting humanitarian aid in. That's
the one that I really have a problem in, even
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though they say, oh, yes we do, yes, we do.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Who are we kidding? So the accusation has hit that Israel.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Has committed is committing genocide and war crimes. Now israel
I think Netta, Yahoo and other Israeli leaders have already
been notified or have already been accused of war crimes
by the International Justice Court, and that one the United
States will not even sign the convention. Russia won't, Israel
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won't because they the Internet National Court has issued indictment
after indictment after indictment against Israel, Russia, now Russia, but
Israel and the United States, going back to the war
in Vietnam, over fifty percent of the accusations have come
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to the United States because the members of the International Court,
they're anti Israel, as most of the United Nations is
So what happens well.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Israel is calling the report entirely.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Baseless, said it fails to account the operational realities faced
by Israeli soldiers, one of them being Hamas embedding itself
in the civilian population. And the war just continues. And
Israel's position is real simple. You return those hostages, that's it.
Just return them, every one of them that you're now holding,
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or we just keep on going. And Hamas thinks it
is more important to let the population of Gaza not
have a standing structure, not a home left standing. And
the decimation of its population and the wiping out of
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its infrastructure. I mean that's gone. Its economy is gone
and will be for a generation.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
But damn it.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
We're not letting go of those innocent, innocent hostages because
that's our ace, that's our those are our cards. All right,
let's take a phone call if we can before the break,
and I will do so.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
All right, Mark, Mark, welcome. What can I do for you?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Bill, we inherited home a few years ago and we've
decided we want to rent it out and we're just wondering,
do we need to create an LLC?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, do you need
to know?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Because you're gonna buy tons of insurance for it, all
kinds of liability insurance. But what an LLC does is
protect you for anything other than the value of the home,
because that's the only thing the LLC owns, and it's
a separate entity.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So it doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt. A lot of
people do that, and.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry I interrupted to establish an LLC?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Do you do?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You need to talk to an attorney?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It's easy. Go on the internet.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You can record your LLC. It's all over the place.
And then you transfer the property into the LLC. So
if the property is in your name, for example, or
if you're married, you and your wife's name typically or
separate property. It doesn't really matter. Boom into the LLC
it goes. And so who's whose name is on the property,
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who owns it?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Mark?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
But it's actually held in the family trust.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Okay, so the trust, the trust has to transfer it
into the LLC.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Okay, that's how you do. It's easy.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Just go on the internet and take you and you
can do it EASYPC Julie, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Good morning, Dale.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
I'm Shingle.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
I have no children, and I've typed up sort of
a will and trust thing that lists my assets, which
is my home and car, bank accounts four one. I've
listed my brother and another brother as executor and co executors,
and I had my advanced healthcare directive and I got
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it all notarized. So my question is is that legal
enough until I can go to a lawyer and get
a more comprehensive one day.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Well, I mean you're conflating a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
A will and a trust are two entirely different documents
and concepts, all right, And so the executors of the.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Will have nothing to do with the trust.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
The will may have nothing to do with the property
if it's if it's in a trust. The trust may
have nothing to do with a property if it's in
a will. So who are the beneficiaries?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Let's talk about that first. Who do you want to
leave this stuff to?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, actually both my brothers.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Okay. Now, do you have a trust?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay? Is the property?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Are the properties into the have they been transferred into
the trust?
Speaker 7 (07:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:29):
The properties and bank accounts are in the trust.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay, you're also speaking. You're also talking on a speakerphone,
aren't you.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Oh, I'm sorry, let me take it off, let me
take it off.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Okay, okay, all right, So all the properties are in
a trust, correct, yes, okay, and the trustees are both
your brothers, and they are also the beneficiaries of all
of it.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Okay, So what's left over? This is a rollover thing.
So whatever is not in the trust, then you write
up a will.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You know, things like my jewelry, and you know where
it's hard to you know, put jewelry into a trust,
and you know, furniture, that sort of thing is usually
usually left in a will. And then of course, whoever
has a keys to your house rips it off completely.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So yeah, I mean, have you had the trust notarized.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Yes, I've had everything.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, you're fine, You're fine, But how much? How much
money is all of this Julie?
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Well, my house is a praise at one point two million,
and it's totally paid off.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Okay, so you got one point two How about do
you have securities? Do you have money retirement?
Speaker 7 (08:44):
Just some fall one?
Speaker 6 (08:46):
IRA's the told I think is about three hundred and
fifty thousand.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, okay, you know what.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Probably you're okay, but get ye to a lawyer. There's
enough money there where you absolutely want this thing air tight. Okay,
but at this point it sounds like a lawyer. I
would Yeah, I'd go to a trust and estate lawyer.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I wouldn't do this one on your own. I wouldn't
go on the internet. There's too much money involved. You've
got two, You've got a pair of siblings.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Is that is that two? Uh? Do they get along
with each other? I mean? Are they happy campers?
Speaker 7 (09:22):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (09:22):
Very well? Very tight? Yes?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay, good, so you don't have to worry about one
attacking the other one. But you want it as air
tight as you want as you can. So, yeah, I'd
go to an attorney. But it sounds like You're doing
everything right at this point for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Mike Hi, Mikey, Mike.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
My question is on adverse possession. Yes, the recorded owner
of a piece of property has died without a will,
and I have paid the property taxes for the last
six years. My question is can I claim titled to
the property using adverse possession?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You might be able to Adverse possession for those people
that don't know what it is, is the taking of
a property legally if you've met certain rules, and that
is the owner of the property is not using the
property or it is vacant. In this case, it would
be vacant property taxes being paid on it, using the
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property open and notoriously, which means that you have some
connection and it's easy to see that you somehow have
an ownership and paying the taxes, maybe enough to make
adverse possession.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I would think, yeah, I think you.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Have an argument for adverse possession, and I don't think
anybody else is going to attack it, except if there
are family members of the dead owner, then they can
go in and would.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Attack and say the property is ours.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
But based on what you have said, you can put
a you can cloud that title like crazy, and so
there'd probably be at least the negotiation going on. You
think that the dead owner has family.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
The dead owner has family, all.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Right, Well, here's the other issue, and that is was
there any attempt to contact the family, because they're going
to argue you went to adverse adverse possession, You want
to take the property, and you didn't give us a
chance to know about it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You had made no attempts. And I don't know all
the rules. But how much is this worth?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Mike? Five thousand dollars? It's fair land.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Oh it's only worth five thousand dollars. Yes, oh yeah, No,
one's gonna argue with that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I don't know if it's worth it to get title
on it for you know, I don't know how much
it costs for adverse possession. You know, go on the internet,
check out what you have to do, because it could
be really complicated, and this should a question. See if
it was serious money the way five acres five thousand dollars,
Try doing that in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That would be special. Mark. Hello, Mark, welcome, Hello, Yes, yes,
oh you know what.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Mark, Let me do this, Let me do this. I
don't want to, you know, cut you off. Let me
put you on hold and I'll pick you up first thing.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
When we come back.
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Speaker 8 (14:11):
All right, Mark, Yes, Bill, I have a situation. I
was years back. I was appointed as a trustee of
testamentary trust. The beneficiary is my son, who had age
twenty five, is to inherit his inheritance, and there was
supposed to be a trust created which was never done.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Okay, the.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
Nothing, nothing was done. It just went the years. He's
twenty six. Now he's supposed to inherit at twenty five,
and I'm trying to figure out what to do about it.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, all right, let's let's start with who owns the
assets at this point.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
Well, that's the thing. It's it's under the supposed to
be a their trust.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I understand it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
But since it's not under the trust, who owns the assets?
Speaker 8 (15:08):
Well, I don't know who owned it. There the funds
are in an investment firm. It's in a bank account, and.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Who owns all? Who owned But who owns it?
Speaker 8 (15:19):
Who owns it?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's an investment account, but somebody owns it the investment
account doesn't own it.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Under it's under the name of the trust.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But then again, there is no trust. And let me
ask you.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
They didn't even ask for the document of a trust.
They the money was just went into on behalf of
a trust. Okay, so they're holding it. They are holding
it in somebody's.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
Name, under the under the guise of the trust they did,
but there is no trust.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
How do you hold the trust that doesn't exist? Mark,
That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
That's why I'm trying to find out.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Okay, So now who would be the who would be
the beneficiaries? My son, your son would be the only beneficiary, correct.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
The only one?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Does the trust door have is the trust door married?
Are there other children or it's only your son that exists?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And how is the trust dore related to you?
Speaker 8 (16:23):
Uh? The trust or yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
The person who wrote the trust, the person who has
the money.
Speaker 8 (16:31):
The person that has the money is me.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You're you? You now own So let me ask you.
This is really weird. Uh if if the whole.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Person that's holding the money, uh, and you don't have
a trust, write a trust and put the money into
a trust. Okay, you're really confusing me, Mark, You're really
confusing me when I say who owns it?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You know, I don't know. It's a block to out. Well,
if it's in your name, you call.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
I'm appointed on the court paperwork as the trustee of
this testamentary trust.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Okay, but the assets were never put into the trust, correct? Right?
Speaker 8 (17:16):
And that's how much.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Money are we talking about? Mark? Because I'm having a
hard time explaining how much money.
Speaker 8 (17:20):
Are we talking about? Dollars?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
All right? Go get a lawyer, Go get a trust
and a state lawyer.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Maybe he'll be able to explain it to you, or
more importantly, you'll be able to explain it to them.
Because I lost you halfway through this thing absolutely.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Felicia, Hello, Felicia.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Hello Bill Handle.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yes, ma'am, what can I do for you?
Speaker 9 (17:41):
Very long time?
Speaker 6 (17:44):
So, my mom unfortunately died recently while she provided paperwork
to her employer through her doctor's office saving that she
was disabled.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
She died and they.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Fired her while she was disabled? And do I have
any can I go after them?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You know?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Now if she was receiving governmental money s SI for example, yeah,
uh there is a case where someone dies and is
owed money by the government here, Uh there, had she
already filed for disability.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Regular through uh not not through s s I, but
just plain disability, yes, okay?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And was disability?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Was? Was it decided that she's a title the disability?
Speaker 9 (18:41):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
She was?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
All right, So what what is so?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And the employer said, uh no, how much after she
was disabled that the employer fired her?
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Not even two months? They didn't even tell her she
was fired?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You know?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Uh No, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I'm guessing. No, I don't do this kind of law, clearly.
I mean it's sir. They're lawyers out there that do
workers' comp disability and it's worth a phone call and
they'll tell you and you can just go on the
internet and look for lawyers disability unemployments. That's what you're
gonna get because I don't know the answer to that.
And that is, you know, can you fire someone who's
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on disability?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, you can.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
You can say the job doesn't exist anymore. You've wrapped
up that division.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You can do that.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But other than that, no, twenty days or two months after.
I don't know the answer to that. I really don't
how unusual. I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Okay, Jim, Hi, Jim, I go ahead in this morning?
Go ahead, Jim.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (20:00):
I got a quick question. I had a personal injury
lawsuit running for five years now I finally settled. I
signed the settlement agreement for very small amount of money,
and I still haven't received anything from October eighth is
when I signed it. And I'm wondering, how long do
they have before they make disbursement?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Okay, it's been so, it's been like five weeks.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Right, yeah, at least.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, they should have made it a lot sooner than that.
They may have made it already and sent the check
to your lawyer for all I know.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Okay, Well, how long does he have them discis, well,
he has.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
To do it pretty quickly. I mean he can't wait
six weeks. He does an accounting and sends you the money,
and that's an easy one. You call the lawyer and
you go when did you receive the check?
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Okay?
Speaker 10 (20:58):
Do they have a uns receivable accounts payable department in
all law firms?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
No, it's not account's receivable, account's payable. It's you go
directly to the lawyer. You go directly to the lawyer
or the law firm, and you'll probably get answered by
a secretary and say when did the check come back?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
And I want an answer.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, they'd been at walling me for about two weeks.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Now it's okay. Then the next question, the next question.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
If I don't get a call back the next the
next thing I'm going to do is go to the
state bar.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So that's I said, That's what I would That's what
I would threaten because I don't know why the delay.
I mean insurance companies you can talk four or five weeks.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I mean they can take forever.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I had a case in which there was a settlement
and it was to be paid within thirty days. There
it was right there they took ninety days to pay.
They you talk about stonewall. I had to threaten to
take them to court. It's just some companies don't do it,
but your lawyer. If your lawyer gets the check, he
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can't wait weeks for that one. So just call the
law firm and say, hey, when'd you get the check?
And if they don't answer it, you put in an email.
You put in writing all of it. I've called you
five times, I've called you six times, and you will
not call me back.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And you have my money. When did you get it?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
And if you don't respond within seven days, I'm finally
complain with a state bar.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
That's how you handle it. All right, Okay, how much
did you get?
Speaker 10 (22:32):
You know that about a twelve thousand dollars?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Bad?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
How bad? How much did were you banged up?
Speaker 10 (22:39):
Not too bad? I got what they call a lad
of the whiplash of elect neck because the guy backed
into me, and I was.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Okay, great, I'm already bored. I just wanted to know,
all right, got it? Gary? You're up?
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Hey, Bill, yes my questions. I retired in December twenty three,
on the thirtieth. You're working forty one years for the
state of California. So I had overtime that should have
been paid on my last date of work, but I
didn't get it for like twenty four days later. And
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then a year after that I got a small check
because they miscalculated something. Am I entitled to late payment awages? Penalties?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You know what are late payment? When you know the
penalties for twenty days?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I have no idea. Yeah, I don't, you know, I
don't think so.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I mean, you know, they should have paid you on time,
but what's the downside.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's not like two years after the facts. So there
may be.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
A statutory provision where they have to pay you. I
don't know five point eight million dollars if they're late
on your retirement pay, but my guess is probably not. Steve, Hello, Steve,
Welcome to handle on the law.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
Hi Bill, Hey, I made a low budget movie with
the friend of mine a thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Steve, And uh, hold on, it's what kind of movie
is it?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
One of.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
No, no, no, no, it's it's a mockumentary, kind of
like a spinal tap about the worst filmmaker that ever lived. Okay,
and we had about a dozen maybe fifteen, like d
level actors like Patrick McNee and Steve Allen, Spiky McFarlane,
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Beverly Garland, bunch of Yeah, those.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Are not you know, those are names that people know about.
I mean, that's yeah. You know, you're not throwing obscure names.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I was going to ask you, you know, I mean
the good you know, the films that I got very
excited about. I thought you made the actor would be
like tool o'tool you know.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, no, mister in Dallas.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
Anyway, we paid them. We paid them scale set for
a day rate when we made up the contracts with
the stipulation that if we ever sold it, they would
get ten thousand dollars each. And this was thirty years ago.
So my buddy who financed it and directed and wrote
it sadly passed away about ten years ago, and the
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lawyer on the movie also passed away about five years ago.
I hope I'm not next in line. Anyway. I was wondering.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
If we could just as a.
Speaker 9 (25:26):
Tribute to everyone. A lot of the actors are dead,
a lot of the people involved have passed away. Who
could just put what we have on YouTube and still
be held for the ten thousand dollars even though we're
not selling it.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, here is how much did you say? Well, hang on,
how much did you sell it for?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Steve?
Speaker 9 (25:46):
No, no, we seld it for We haven't sold it.
It's not even finished.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Oh so you're just talking about putting it up on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I don't know. I don't think anybody's going to bug
you for it.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I mean, you've got Theoryally, you have the family that
owns the.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
That owns the likeness and the voice of that. But
thirty years.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Ago, I mean they're not even gonna know what happened.
Because if your position is, I have no idea we
made this.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
It never made any money. It was thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
We're just putting it up to say thank you for
everybody that was in it. I don't think there's going
to be any downside. And if you didn't make any
money on it, then there is no issue, Steve, because
it was predicated on making money and you didn't, So
on the contractual basis, there is no issue because you
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can't sue someone saying if you make.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Money, I'm gonna get money. Well, if you don't make money,
how do they get money? Now?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
The other issue is using their likeness, and that is using.
These are public figures, they're in the entertainment business. They
earn their money by being known as these personalities.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Can the estate come back and sue you?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
But you didn't make any money on it, So the
answer is, go, go right ahead, Uh and do it.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I wouldn't bother with it. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I'm assuming the reason you couldn't sell it because it's
a god awful, horrible movie.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
Right, I wouldn't say god awful, but we were only
squordered done.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
And then how.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Much he you spend on it happened? Steve? How much
he you spend on the movie thirty years ago?
Speaker 9 (27:32):
I think we spent about I'm gonna say fifty or
seventy five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Wow, that's okay, that's money.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That fifty seventy five thousand dollars thirty years ago is
in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, you spent some money.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, and clearly you failed miserably. So how good a
movie could it possibly be? Bad?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Breath you have it?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Well, everybody has it at some point or another, and
some people don't like it. Actually, if you're breathing it
from someone in front of you or in the same room.
So there are some answers. One of them is you
suck on a mint, right and that.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
Cleans it up for a little while.
Speaker 1 (28:13):
But what happens when bad breath comes out of your gut,
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Speaker 2 (29:02):
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Speaker 2 (29:43):
This is handle on the law
This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell you you have absolutely no case.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
All right, this is out of Israel, and.
Speaker 1 (00:10):
Israel is being blamed for so many civilian deaths in Gaza.
Speaker 2 (00:17):
And the argument is, and very few people are.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Saying that Israel is not justified in attacking Hamas because
of that massacre October seventh. Where the criticism kicks in
is they have not stopped. And here you are, basically
over a year later, and Gaza has been decimated. Eighty
(00:45):
percent of the buildings have just been destroyed, and virtually
the entire population has been displaced and starvation and the
only way they can live the Palestinians living in Gaza
is international aid coming in, and Israel is being accused
of stopping that aid, not letting it through, which there
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is validity to that. And some forty four thousand palest
Indians have died. Now the world doesn't talk about how
many of them are militants.
Speaker 2 (01:17):
It's just men, women and children, etc.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
About a third are fighters, so that I don't care about,
but about two thirds are innocent civilians. And the problem
is is that innocent civilians are in Gaza, and it's
very difficult for Israel to target hamas when they're embedded
in the civilian population.
Speaker 2 (01:37):
Okay, that's the background.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
So Amnesty International, sort of a bipartisan I don't know
about that organization, just came out with the report almost
three hundred pages that says evidence gathered over nine months,
they have been able to prove or they have the
evidence that Israeli forces and government authorities have committed can
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have committed genocide under the United Nations Genocide Convention.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
Straight out, they are guilty.
Speaker 1 (02:08):
Israel is guilty of genocide, which is a that is
a loaded term. But israel I don't have a problem
with israel I must and I'm as pro Israeli as
they come. I don't have a problem with Israel defending itself,
but going after and not letting humanitarian aid in. That's
the one that I really have a problem in, even
(02:29):
though they say, oh, yes we do, yes, we do.
Speaker 2 (02:31):
Who are we kidding? So the accusation has hit that Israel.
Speaker 1 (02:36):
Has committed is committing genocide and war crimes. Now israel
I think Netta, Yahoo and other Israeli leaders have already
been notified or have already been accused of war crimes
by the International Justice Court, and that one the United
States will not even sign the convention. Russia won't, Israel
(02:57):
won't because they the Internet National Court has issued indictment
after indictment after indictment against Israel, Russia, now Russia, but
Israel and the United States, going back to the war
in Vietnam, over fifty percent of the accusations have come
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to the United States because the members of the International Court,
they're anti Israel, as most of the United Nations is
So what happens well.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Israel is calling the report entirely.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
Baseless, said it fails to account the operational realities faced
by Israeli soldiers, one of them being Hamas embedding itself
in the civilian population. And the war just continues. And
Israel's position is real simple. You return those hostages, that's it.
Just return them, every one of them that you're now holding,
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or we just keep on going. And Hamas thinks it
is more important to let the population of Gaza not
have a standing structure, not a home left standing. And
the decimation of its population and the wiping out of
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its infrastructure. I mean that's gone. Its economy is gone
and will be for a generation.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
But damn it.
Speaker 1 (04:23):
We're not letting go of those innocent, innocent hostages because
that's our ace, that's our those are our cards. All right,
let's take a phone call if we can before the break,
and I will do so.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
All right, Mark, Mark, welcome. What can I do for you?
Speaker 3 (04:40):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (04:40):
Bill, we inherited home a few years ago and we've
decided we want to rent it out and we're just wondering,
do we need to create an LLC?
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Yeah, that's a good question. I mean, do you need
to know?
Speaker 1 (04:55):
Because you're gonna buy tons of insurance for it, all
kinds of liability insurance. But what an LLC does is
protect you for anything other than the value of the home,
because that's the only thing the LLC owns, and it's
a separate entity.
Speaker 2 (05:14):
So it doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt. A lot of
people do that, and.
Speaker 4 (05:19):
I'm sorry, I'm sorry I interrupted to establish an LLC?
Speaker 3 (05:24):
Do you do?
Speaker 4 (05:25):
You need to talk to an attorney?
Speaker 2 (05:28):
It's easy. Go on the internet.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
You can record your LLC. It's all over the place.
And then you transfer the property into the LLC. So
if the property is in your name, for example, or
if you're married, you and your wife's name typically or
separate property. It doesn't really matter. Boom into the LLC
it goes. And so who's whose name is on the property,
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who owns it?
Speaker 2 (05:53):
Mark?
Speaker 4 (05:53):
But it's actually held in the family trust.
Speaker 1 (05:55):
Okay, so the trust, the trust has to transfer it
into the LLC.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Okay, that's how you do. It's easy.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
Just go on the internet and take you and you
can do it EASYPC Julie, Yes, ma'am.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Good morning, Dale.
Speaker 6 (06:10):
I'm Shingle.
Speaker 7 (06:11):
I have no children, and I've typed up sort of
a will and trust thing that lists my assets, which
is my home and car, bank accounts four one. I've
listed my brother and another brother as executor and co executors,
and I had my advanced healthcare directive and I got
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it all notarized. So my question is is that legal
enough until I can go to a lawyer and get
a more comprehensive one day.
Speaker 2 (06:41):
Well, I mean you're conflating a couple of things.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
A will and a trust are two entirely different documents
and concepts, all right, And so the executors of the.
Speaker 2 (06:56):
Will have nothing to do with the trust.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
The will may have nothing to do with the property
if it's if it's in a trust. The trust may
have nothing to do with a property if it's in
a will. So who are the beneficiaries?
Speaker 2 (07:11):
Let's talk about that first. Who do you want to
leave this stuff to?
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Well, actually both my brothers.
Speaker 2 (07:17):
Okay. Now, do you have a trust?
Speaker 5 (07:22):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (07:23):
Okay? Is the property?
Speaker 1 (07:24):
Are the properties into the have they been transferred into
the trust?
Speaker 7 (07:29):
Yeah?
Speaker 6 (07:29):
The properties and bank accounts are in the trust.
Speaker 1 (07:32):
Okay, you're also speaking. You're also talking on a speakerphone,
aren't you.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
Oh, I'm sorry, let me take it off, let me
take it off.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Okay, okay, all right, So all the properties are in
a trust, correct, yes, okay, and the trustees are both
your brothers, and they are also the beneficiaries of all
of it.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Okay, So what's left over? This is a rollover thing.
So whatever is not in the trust, then you write
up a will.
Speaker 1 (08:04):
You know, things like my jewelry, and you know where
it's hard to you know, put jewelry into a trust,
and you know, furniture, that sort of thing is usually
usually left in a will. And then of course, whoever
has a keys to your house rips it off completely.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
So yeah, I mean, have you had the trust notarized.
Speaker 7 (08:25):
Yes, I've had everything.
Speaker 1 (08:28):
Yeah, you're fine, You're fine, But how much? How much
money is all of this Julie?
Speaker 7 (08:34):
Well, my house is a praise at one point two million,
and it's totally paid off.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Okay, so you got one point two How about do
you have securities? Do you have money retirement?
Speaker 7 (08:44):
Just some fall one?
Speaker 6 (08:46):
IRA's the told I think is about three hundred and
fifty thousand.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah, okay, you know what.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
Probably you're okay, but get ye to a lawyer. There's
enough money there where you absolutely want this thing air tight. Okay,
but at this point it sounds like a lawyer. I
would Yeah, I'd go to a trust and estate lawyer.
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
I wouldn't do this one on your own. I wouldn't
go on the internet. There's too much money involved. You've
got two, You've got a pair of siblings.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Is that is that two? Uh? Do they get along
with each other? I mean? Are they happy campers?
Speaker 7 (09:22):
Oh?
Speaker 8 (09:22):
Very well? Very tight? Yes?
Speaker 1 (09:23):
Okay, good, so you don't have to worry about one
attacking the other one. But you want it as air
tight as you want as you can. So, yeah, I'd
go to an attorney. But it sounds like You're doing
everything right at this point for sure.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
Mike Hi, Mikey, Mike.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
My question is on adverse possession. Yes, the recorded owner
of a piece of property has died without a will,
and I have paid the property taxes for the last
six years. My question is can I claim titled to
the property using adverse possession?
Speaker 1 (10:01):
You might be able to Adverse possession for those people
that don't know what it is, is the taking of
a property legally if you've met certain rules, and that
is the owner of the property is not using the
property or it is vacant. In this case, it would
be vacant property taxes being paid on it, using the
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property open and notoriously, which means that you have some
connection and it's easy to see that you somehow have
an ownership and paying the taxes, maybe enough to make
adverse possession.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
I would think, yeah, I think you.
Speaker 1 (10:39):
Have an argument for adverse possession, and I don't think
anybody else is going to attack it, except if there
are family members of the dead owner, then they can
go in and would.
Speaker 2 (10:53):
Attack and say the property is ours.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
But based on what you have said, you can put
a you can cloud that title like crazy, and so
there'd probably be at least the negotiation going on. You
think that the dead owner has family.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
The dead owner has family, all.
Speaker 1 (11:14):
Right, Well, here's the other issue, and that is was
there any attempt to contact the family, because they're going
to argue you went to adverse adverse possession, You want
to take the property, and you didn't give us a
chance to know about it.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
You had made no attempts. And I don't know all
the rules. But how much is this worth?
Speaker 3 (11:34):
Mike? Five thousand dollars? It's fair land.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
Oh it's only worth five thousand dollars. Yes, oh yeah, No,
one's gonna argue with that.
Speaker 2 (11:44):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:44):
I don't know if it's worth it to get title
on it for you know, I don't know how much
it costs for adverse possession. You know, go on the internet,
check out what you have to do, because it could
be really complicated, and this should a question. See if
it was serious money the way five acres five thousand dollars,
Try doing that in Beverly Hills.
Speaker 2 (12:05):
That would be special. Mark. Hello, Mark, welcome, Hello, Yes, yes,
oh you know what.
Speaker 1 (12:16):
Mark, Let me do this, Let me do this. I
don't want to, you know, cut you off. Let me
put you on hold and I'll pick you up first thing.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
When we come back.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
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(12:45):
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Speaker 8 (14:11):
All right, Mark, Yes, Bill, I have a situation. I
was years back. I was appointed as a trustee of
testamentary trust. The beneficiary is my son, who had age
twenty five, is to inherit his inheritance, and there was
supposed to be a trust created which was never done.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Okay, the.
Speaker 8 (14:37):
Nothing, nothing was done. It just went the years. He's
twenty six. Now he's supposed to inherit at twenty five,
and I'm trying to figure out what to do about it.
Speaker 1 (14:47):
Yeah, all right, let's let's start with who owns the
assets at this point.
Speaker 8 (14:57):
Well, that's the thing. It's it's under the supposed to
be a their trust.
Speaker 2 (15:00):
I understand it's supposed to be.
Speaker 1 (15:02):
But since it's not under the trust, who owns the assets?
Speaker 8 (15:08):
Well, I don't know who owned it. There the funds
are in an investment firm. It's in a bank account, and.
Speaker 2 (15:14):
Who owns all? Who owned But who owns it?
Speaker 8 (15:19):
Who owns it?
Speaker 1 (15:20):
It's an investment account, but somebody owns it the investment
account doesn't own it.
Speaker 8 (15:24):
Under it's under the name of the trust.
Speaker 2 (15:26):
But then again, there is no trust. And let me
ask you.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
They didn't even ask for the document of a trust.
They the money was just went into on behalf of
a trust. Okay, so they're holding it. They are holding
it in somebody's.
Speaker 8 (15:41):
Name, under the under the guise of the trust they did,
but there is no trust.
Speaker 1 (15:48):
How do you hold the trust that doesn't exist? Mark,
That's what I'm telling you.
Speaker 8 (15:52):
That's why I'm trying to find out.
Speaker 1 (15:54):
Okay, So now who would be the who would be
the beneficiaries? My son, your son would be the only beneficiary, correct.
Speaker 8 (16:02):
The only one?
Speaker 2 (16:03):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:03):
Does the trust door have is the trust door married?
Are there other children or it's only your son that exists?
Speaker 2 (16:14):
Okay?
Speaker 1 (16:15):
And how is the trust dore related to you?
Speaker 8 (16:23):
Uh? The trust or yeah?
Speaker 1 (16:26):
The person who wrote the trust, the person who has
the money.
Speaker 8 (16:31):
The person that has the money is me.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
You're you? You now own So let me ask you.
This is really weird. Uh if if the whole.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Person that's holding the money, uh, and you don't have
a trust, write a trust and put the money into
a trust. Okay, you're really confusing me, Mark, You're really
confusing me when I say who owns it?
Speaker 2 (16:58):
You know, I don't know. It's a block to out. Well,
if it's in your name, you call.
Speaker 8 (17:03):
I'm appointed on the court paperwork as the trustee of
this testamentary trust.
Speaker 1 (17:11):
Okay, but the assets were never put into the trust, correct? Right?
Speaker 8 (17:16):
And that's how much.
Speaker 2 (17:17):
Money are we talking about? Mark? Because I'm having a
hard time explaining how much money.
Speaker 8 (17:20):
Are we talking about? Dollars?
Speaker 2 (17:23):
All right? Go get a lawyer, Go get a trust
and a state lawyer.
Speaker 1 (17:28):
Maybe he'll be able to explain it to you, or
more importantly, you'll be able to explain it to them.
Because I lost you halfway through this thing absolutely.
Speaker 2 (17:35):
Felicia, Hello, Felicia.
Speaker 5 (17:38):
Hello Bill Handle.
Speaker 2 (17:40):
Yes, ma'am, what can I do for you?
Speaker 9 (17:41):
Very long time?
Speaker 6 (17:44):
So, my mom unfortunately died recently while she provided paperwork
to her employer through her doctor's office saving that she
was disabled.
Speaker 5 (17:56):
She died and they.
Speaker 6 (17:57):
Fired her while she was disabled? And do I have
any can I go after them?
Speaker 4 (18:05):
You know?
Speaker 1 (18:07):
Now if she was receiving governmental money s SI for example, yeah,
uh there is a case where someone dies and is
owed money by the government here, Uh there, had she
already filed for disability.
Speaker 6 (18:27):
Regular through uh not not through s s I, but
just plain disability, yes, okay?
Speaker 2 (18:33):
And was disability?
Speaker 1 (18:36):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (18:36):
Was? Was it decided that she's a title the disability?
Speaker 9 (18:41):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (18:41):
She was?
Speaker 2 (18:42):
All right, So what what is so?
Speaker 1 (18:44):
And the employer said, uh no, how much after she
was disabled that the employer fired her?
Speaker 6 (18:53):
Not even two months? They didn't even tell her she
was fired?
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Wow?
Speaker 1 (18:58):
You know?
Speaker 2 (18:59):
Uh No, I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 1 (19:02):
I'm guessing. No, I don't do this kind of law, clearly.
I mean it's sir. They're lawyers out there that do
workers' comp disability and it's worth a phone call and
they'll tell you and you can just go on the
internet and look for lawyers disability unemployments. That's what you're
gonna get because I don't know the answer to that.
And that is, you know, can you fire someone who's
(19:25):
on disability?
Speaker 2 (19:26):
Yeah, you can.
Speaker 1 (19:28):
You can say the job doesn't exist anymore. You've wrapped
up that division.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
You can do that.
Speaker 1 (19:37):
But other than that, no, twenty days or two months after.
I don't know the answer to that. I really don't
how unusual. I don't know the answer to that.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Okay, Jim, Hi, Jim, I go ahead in this morning?
Go ahead, Jim.
Speaker 8 (20:00):
Okay.
Speaker 10 (20:00):
I got a quick question. I had a personal injury
lawsuit running for five years now I finally settled. I
signed the settlement agreement for very small amount of money,
and I still haven't received anything from October eighth is
when I signed it. And I'm wondering, how long do
they have before they make disbursement?
Speaker 2 (20:24):
Okay, it's been so, it's been like five weeks.
Speaker 3 (20:30):
Right, yeah, at least.
Speaker 1 (20:32):
Yeah, they should have made it a lot sooner than that.
They may have made it already and sent the check
to your lawyer for all I know.
Speaker 8 (20:42):
Okay, Well, how long does he have them discis, well,
he has.
Speaker 1 (20:44):
To do it pretty quickly. I mean he can't wait
six weeks. He does an accounting and sends you the money,
and that's an easy one. You call the lawyer and
you go when did you receive the check?
Speaker 8 (20:58):
Okay?
Speaker 10 (20:58):
Do they have a uns receivable accounts payable department in
all law firms?
Speaker 1 (21:03):
No, it's not account's receivable, account's payable. It's you go
directly to the lawyer. You go directly to the lawyer
or the law firm, and you'll probably get answered by
a secretary and say when did the check come back?
Speaker 2 (21:18):
And I want an answer.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
Yeah, they'd been at walling me for about two weeks.
Speaker 2 (21:23):
Now it's okay. Then the next question, the next question.
Speaker 1 (21:26):
If I don't get a call back the next the
next thing I'm going to do is go to the
state bar.
Speaker 8 (21:33):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
So that's I said, That's what I would That's what
I would threaten because I don't know why the delay.
I mean insurance companies you can talk four or five weeks.
Speaker 2 (21:42):
I mean they can take forever.
Speaker 1 (21:44):
I had a case in which there was a settlement
and it was to be paid within thirty days. There
it was right there they took ninety days to pay.
They you talk about stonewall. I had to threaten to
take them to court. It's just some companies don't do it,
but your lawyer. If your lawyer gets the check, he
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can't wait weeks for that one. So just call the
law firm and say, hey, when'd you get the check?
And if they don't answer it, you put in an email.
You put in writing all of it. I've called you
five times, I've called you six times, and you will
not call me back.
Speaker 2 (22:21):
And you have my money. When did you get it?
Speaker 1 (22:24):
And if you don't respond within seven days, I'm finally
complain with a state bar.
Speaker 2 (22:29):
That's how you handle it. All right, Okay, how much
did you get?
Speaker 10 (22:32):
You know that about a twelve thousand dollars?
Speaker 4 (22:35):
Bad?
Speaker 2 (22:36):
How bad? How much did were you banged up?
Speaker 10 (22:39):
Not too bad? I got what they call a lad
of the whiplash of elect neck because the guy backed
into me, and I was.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
Okay, great, I'm already bored. I just wanted to know,
all right, got it? Gary? You're up?
Speaker 5 (22:52):
Hey, Bill, yes my questions. I retired in December twenty three,
on the thirtieth. You're working forty one years for the
state of California. So I had overtime that should have
been paid on my last date of work, but I
didn't get it for like twenty four days later. And
(23:12):
then a year after that I got a small check
because they miscalculated something. Am I entitled to late payment awages? Penalties?
Speaker 2 (23:20):
You know what are late payment? When you know the
penalties for twenty days?
Speaker 1 (23:26):
You know?
Speaker 2 (23:27):
I have no idea. Yeah, I don't, you know, I
don't think so.
Speaker 1 (23:31):
I mean, you know, they should have paid you on time,
but what's the downside.
Speaker 2 (23:36):
It's not like two years after the facts. So there
may be.
Speaker 1 (23:40):
A statutory provision where they have to pay you. I
don't know five point eight million dollars if they're late
on your retirement pay, but my guess is probably not. Steve, Hello, Steve,
Welcome to handle on the law.
Speaker 9 (23:55):
Hi Bill, Hey, I made a low budget movie with
the friend of mine a thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (24:03):
Steve, And uh, hold on, it's what kind of movie
is it?
Speaker 4 (24:08):
One of.
Speaker 9 (24:10):
No, no, no, no, it's it's a mockumentary, kind of
like a spinal tap about the worst filmmaker that ever lived. Okay,
and we had about a dozen maybe fifteen, like d
level actors like Patrick McNee and Steve Allen, Spiky McFarlane,
(24:31):
Beverly Garland, bunch of Yeah, those.
Speaker 2 (24:33):
Are not you know, those are names that people know about.
I mean, that's yeah. You know, you're not throwing obscure names.
Speaker 5 (24:41):
You know.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
I was going to ask you, you know, I mean
the good you know, the films that I got very
excited about. I thought you made the actor would be
like tool o'tool you know.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
Yeah, no, mister in Dallas.
Speaker 9 (24:52):
Anyway, we paid them. We paid them scale set for
a day rate when we made up the contracts with
the stipulation that if we ever sold it, they would
get ten thousand dollars each. And this was thirty years ago.
So my buddy who financed it and directed and wrote
it sadly passed away about ten years ago, and the
(25:16):
lawyer on the movie also passed away about five years ago.
I hope I'm not next in line. Anyway. I was wondering.
Speaker 4 (25:24):
If we could just as a.
Speaker 9 (25:26):
Tribute to everyone. A lot of the actors are dead,
a lot of the people involved have passed away. Who
could just put what we have on YouTube and still
be held for the ten thousand dollars even though we're
not selling it.
Speaker 2 (25:40):
Yeah, here is how much did you say? Well, hang on,
how much did you sell it for?
Speaker 4 (25:44):
Steve?
Speaker 9 (25:46):
No, no, we seld it for We haven't sold it.
It's not even finished.
Speaker 1 (25:49):
Oh so you're just talking about putting it up on YouTube.
Speaker 2 (25:52):
I don't know. I don't think anybody's going to bug
you for it.
Speaker 1 (25:58):
I mean, you've got Theoryally, you have the family that
owns the.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
That owns the likeness and the voice of that. But
thirty years.
Speaker 1 (26:09):
Ago, I mean they're not even gonna know what happened.
Because if your position is, I have no idea we
made this.
Speaker 2 (26:15):
It never made any money. It was thirty years ago.
Speaker 1 (26:18):
We're just putting it up to say thank you for
everybody that was in it. I don't think there's going
to be any downside. And if you didn't make any
money on it, then there is no issue, Steve, because
it was predicated on making money and you didn't, So
on the contractual basis, there is no issue because you
(26:38):
can't sue someone saying if you make.
Speaker 2 (26:41):
Money, I'm gonna get money. Well, if you don't make money,
how do they get money? Now?
Speaker 1 (26:46):
The other issue is using their likeness, and that is using.
These are public figures, they're in the entertainment business. They
earn their money by being known as these personalities.
Speaker 2 (27:03):
Can the estate come back and sue you?
Speaker 1 (27:06):
But you didn't make any money on it, So the
answer is, go, go right ahead, Uh and do it.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
I wouldn't bother with it. Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 1 (27:14):
I'm assuming the reason you couldn't sell it because it's
a god awful, horrible movie.
Speaker 9 (27:19):
Right, I wouldn't say god awful, but we were only
squordered done.
Speaker 8 (27:26):
And then how.
Speaker 2 (27:27):
Much he you spend on it happened? Steve? How much
he you spend on the movie thirty years ago?
Speaker 9 (27:32):
I think we spent about I'm gonna say fifty or
seventy five thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Wow, that's okay, that's money.
Speaker 1 (27:39):
That fifty seventy five thousand dollars thirty years ago is
in the hundreds of thousands of dollars.
Speaker 2 (27:44):
Yeah, you spent some money.
Speaker 1 (27:47):
Yeah, and clearly you failed miserably. So how good a
movie could it possibly be? Bad?
Speaker 2 (27:53):
Breath you have it?
Speaker 1 (27:55):
Well, everybody has it at some point or another, and
some people don't like it. Actually, if you're breathing it
from someone in front of you or in the same room.
So there are some answers. One of them is you
suck on a mint, right and that.
Speaker 2 (28:11):
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Speaker 1 (28:13):
But what happens when bad breath comes out of your gut,
out of your stomach, and no mint takes care of
that one except Zelman's mintea mouth mints, because.
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Speaker 1 (28:24):
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