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Speaker 1 (00:00):
This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell you you have absolutely no case. This is
a story, a case out of northern California in which
this woman who was a shoplifter won nearly a million
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dollar settlement from this small city in northern California called Brentwood.
And this is after a police dog bid her tore
at her scalp and the police at that time were
trying to take her into custody.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
So I mean, she's running away, she's.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Just committed a crime. Turns out she had stolen a car.
She and a couple of friends. During the chase, she
rams into the police car that's chasing her somehow, and
so they bail out of the car and they start
running and she is now hidden try hide behind a bush.
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So out comes the police officer with his canine German
shepherd named Marco, and there she was behind the bush.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And here is why the city.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Settled for a million dollars because Marco the dog came
tearing around the bush while she was hiding and attacked her.
And she sued saying, you didn't even give me a
chance to come out of the bush, You didn't warn me,
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You didn't say come out with your hands up. You
didn't say I have a dog here that's going to
eat you if you didn't come out nothing. The dog
just came around and attacked her and she was pretty
severely injured. Now the police chief said, oh no, this
is legitimate. The actions of this cop were justified. So
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he then said, well, the city decided to settle the
suit to avoid further litigation and legal costs. So tell
Mika Bates gets nine hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars.
Has happened a two three years ago. And on the
body cam, because police now wear bodycam, you can hear
her screaming, oh my god, please get your dog as
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the dog.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Was attacking her.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And the cops the body camp someone else is seeing
pulling the dog's leash and she is yelling, my whole
skin is off.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know, usually.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
People who shoplift and then steal cars shoplift ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Worth of stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I mean, that's no small amount of shoplifting. You think
the police were justified, But under these circumstances, you know,
if I were a city official, I would probably pay
up also because I don't think she's going to lose
a case on this one.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I really don't.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
All right, let's take some phone calls, Shannon. I think
we talked before, didn't we.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Shannon?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yes, oh yeah, you're Iranian.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And I made fun of you and the chandeliers, right, yes, okay,
all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
What can I do for you? Shannon?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Okay, this tenant that you told me, Okay, don't pay
attention right now. Now she has she's suing me for
false claim that my house is uninhabitable.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay, she's suing you for uninhabitability, right, yes, okay, how much?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And what does she say is uninhabitable about the house?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
There is monster? How are you monisture in the world?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And is there is there a mold? Is there mold? Shannon?
No mold, just moisture in the walls. Okay, mold?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I brought my mold person.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Okay, all right, So Shannon, let me interrupt you.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So she's not claiming mold, She's simply claiming moisture in
the walls.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Correct, No, she claims mold, okay, And there.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Is no mold and there is no mold.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
According to my certified mold person, according to a scam
person that she brought.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
All right, here, Shannon, here's how do you know what's
a scam.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
That she has?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Because because in the review of this person, there are
a lot of people saying that the business is not
doing the right thing, and.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
My moday, that's kind of hearsay though, that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So here, here's what you have. Let me tell you. Okay,
you're gonna go to court.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
She's gonna sue you and for I don't know, you know,
a million.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Dollars three hundred thousand.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, of course, I mean I'm surprised it's only three
hundred thousand, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I'm surprised it's only three hundred thousand.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I wouldn't be surprised if it was three hundred million.
All right, I mean they're crazy. These people are nuts.
They they throw figures out there.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
That ail she's scamming meat.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
No, I understand, of course she is.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Shannon in the house.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Okay, Shannon house, right, Shannon. Would would you like the
answer or do you want to just keep on talking?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yes? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
So you have one mold remediation company that says no mold.
I would get another one to come in and do
an examination and get two companies that are saying there's
no mold. Also, what I would do is she wants
to take you to court. Is there a lawyer involved
in this?
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yes, she went to Los Julius.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Okay, the lawyer Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
All right, So unfortunately, you get to find a lawyer
or you can defend yourself because she's going to sue
your front inhabitability and she's going to say here's mold,
and you're gonna come up with two certified mold experts
that say there is no mold, and you are going
to submit some of the internet complaints against her. We'll
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see if the court takes that or not, saying that
the whole thing is a scam and you're gonna smile
and you're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
That's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Now, would you be able, not on the radio, give
me the name?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
No lawyer, No.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Couldn't, wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You've gotta find a lawyer on your own on this one.
You got to do your research. Yeah, that's the way
it goes.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
The only lawyers I refer is through handle on the
law dot com and that's it. And it happens to
be a law firm that does personal injury because there
are so many lawyers advertising and people don't know, they
have no idea where to go to. So that's why.
And no, I don't give individual referrals, absolutely not. Oh
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real quickly, just before we go, I want to mention
there's a podcast out there that is being broadcast by
someone I really really care for who suffers a lot
of pain, chronic pain, and so she.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Produced this podcast about.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Pain and about dealing with pain, and people really appreciate this.
So if you're suffering from chronic pain or have someone
in your family maybe there's trauma that caused the pain,
let me suggest going to the Hi, Mary, welcome, Hi, Yes.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Sure.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
My parents purchased a home in southern California in the
late sixties. They put it in the family trust in
the eighties. My dad died in the nineties. My mom
passed away in May of last year, seven twenty three.
I'd lived with her the last twenty years of her
life in the home. I moved out. We hired a
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real estate agent. In September of twenty three, I moved
out of the house and had everything cleared out and
the state tell everything by the end of November of
twenty three. The house was put on the market in
February of twenty four and it sold right away post
to escro by the end of March of twenty four.
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And we just got a letter at the end of
November that we owe like twelve thousand dollars in taxes
on the house because we didn't fill out the parent
to child form that I guess proposition nineteen changed.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Were proposition way wait wait Proposition nineteen if I remember,
it was in the seventies and had to do with marijuana.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
It was the first thing, the wrong line, but the
one that was one that passed I guess in twenty
one that changed the way that proposition thirteen could be.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Transfer all right, So you didn't fill out the appropriate
paperwork that where that twelve thousand dollars tax bill would
not have occurred, correct?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh have you appealed it?
Speaker 6 (09:23):
No, we were not told we could appeal.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yes, you can appeal it.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's any any decision you want to appeal it with
the assessor's office. People appeal constantly and win and for
simply a clerical error that you are entitled to not
pay the tax or you don't have to pay the
tax simply by filling out a form and you didn't
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do it. That's pretty egregious to hit you with the tax.
You want to immediately file an appeal with the assessor's office. Okay,
And that's how to do it. And my guests, based
on that, I don't think you're going to lose on
that one.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think you'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Okay, okay, okay, all right, that was it?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Good good, good answer, good question. I found the law
students called okay, we'll do this one. Hi Philip, welcome.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Hi, good morning. I recently sued a dealership in Santa Monica.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
What kind of dealers failed?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
What kind of dealer was awarded a judgment?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Okay? What kind of dealership?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Dealership?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
An auto dealer? Okay, And you were award You got
an award? How much?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Two thousand, four hundred and twenty nine dollars?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Fair enough?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
And I was wondering what I have to do to
collect the money.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Okay? When did you get the award? When was that
decision rendered? How long ago?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Nineteen?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
How long ago?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Just give me the Times, September nineteenth.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Okay, that's how long ago? All right?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I know there's a thirty day period where yeah, they.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Have thirty days.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
They yeah, they have thirty days, all right, so they're
running past the thirty days.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So now what do you do.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'm assuming you've contacted them and said, hey, guys, there's
a judgment.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I'd like my money. You've done that, correct, Yes, I have?
And have they even responded.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
No, just verbally that no, they're I don't know, do
anything for me, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So there's a couple of things you can do.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Is you can try to find a bank account that
they have, and you can attach the bank account through.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
The Marshall's office.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You could probably do and I think you can do
this a judgment debtor examination where you haul someone in
on the dealership and go wear your assets and that's
you can make the life miserable for them.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
How can I do that?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well, you have to apply for it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's a it's a legal issue, and I think you
take some it's on the internet where you make an
its emotion is what it is, and the court grants
it automatically based on a judgment. And I think you
can do that if I'm not mistaken, and then all
you can it's a judgment debtor examination or debtor judgment examination.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
One of the two.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Allows a or a judgment creditor allows a creditor to
haul someone in who is a debtor and start asking
about assets, start asking about where your assets where it is,
and you can go after them if they're trying to
hide assets.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
But you know that's can you try to do that? Yeah?
It just makes them miserable, and then you know what
I would do.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
There are websites that actually help you do it. It's
not easy if they don't want to pay you. I mean,
it's a hassle that you're going to have to collect.
I'm surprised that a dealership is ignoring you, I really am.
That usually doesn't happen. But just keep on hitting them
and you go on the internet and start complaining. Do
a review, there's a judgment, they refuse to pay it.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
People look at reviews all the time regarding dealerships.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I would do that. You can't accuse them of being crooks.
You can't approve them of being.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Frauds, because that is that slander.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
But you can certainly say I wasn't paid and I
have a judgment and it happened in whatever date it was.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That you can do.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's always that's always tough, by the way, getting money
because people think that you get a judgment and then
the court's can enforce it.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Absolutely not. Now to you business folks, a quick word here.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
The less your business spends on delivering your product or service,
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Speaker 2 (13:49):
And everything is more expensive these.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Days, materials, employees, distribution, borrowing. I went to a sushi
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You can reduce costs and headaches and maybe bring down
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on the loan.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, how to bill come in?
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Uh got to question the Uh my neighbor, Uh was
willed his home from his mother. The guy is uh,
uh pretty much a loser. He's in a position now
where he having a difficult time making his payment and Uh,
I want to buy the house from him.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
He's got a wife that he stays with because he's
afraid she's going to take him for everything he has
if they get divorced. Is that house since it was
willed to him prior to him ever meeting his wife
or knowing his wife? Uh? Is that house in the mix?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, it's his, it's his. He can do he can
do whatever he wants with it. Now here's where it
gets interesting. If you're buying the house at a fire
sale price.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Way way low market, I'm not. I'm not. Oh, are
you buying it close to market?
Speaker 7 (16:07):
To market.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Oh you're fine. Then you're fine. She is not entitled
to anything.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It's his house, he inherited, she has no access, she
has no claim. You write the check to him or
you know, he gets the benefit, and you're going to
be fine.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
So the next part of the question is I want
to do something like a reverse mortgage with him on
a on a personal level. He owes two hundred and
fifty sixty thousand dollars on it. What I want to
do is pay the house off and then.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You hear that that that's not a problem.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
But again, you know, it can't be at a fire
sale rate where you are getting huge advantage because then
you're open to the the relationship, the business agreement to
attack and you don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
So go ahead.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Can I make an agreement with him or write up
a proposal with him where I pay off his mortgage,
I allow him to still live there.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, that's a reverse mortgage.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
But if you're gonna do that, If you were going
to do that, you make sure a lawyer who does
real estate writes that. Puppy up. Okay, that's important. Yeah,
you don't want to do that one by yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Not only do you go ahead and do the paperwork,
but you let the wife know that she's getting screwed
completely and will never have any access to it.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That's important.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Okay, that's certainly part of the mix on this one.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Am a due or I'm gonna do? Hello, I'm gonna do?
Do I have that right?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Good morning?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Bill? Yeah? Where are you from? What kind of name
is that I'm gonna do? I malu? D am alu? Okay,
where are you from?
Speaker 7 (17:54):
I am amado means loved one.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Okay, my mama loved me.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
What can I say?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But job?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Hold on? Where are you from? I'm just curious. I've
never heard that name?
Speaker 7 (18:07):
Amado Mexico.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Oh, it's Mexico, got it all right? Never heard that never?
But that's you know, why not, that's kind of a
neat name. I'll buy that, all right. What can I
do for you?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
My son is gonna inherit my home, and.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
I want to know if there's a way that he
can keep Prop thirteen on the property.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
No, not really, not for a son.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Uh huh, interspousal, I think I don't think the kids.
I may be wrong on this because every time I
say something I get a lawyer, it says, handle, you're
completely nuts, But I think it's only interspousal, you know what.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Let me guess. Let me guess. Yeah, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
But keep in mind that I may be completely wrong,
and I mean to look it up because I generally
don't care for those of you that don't know what
Prop thirteen is. Prop thirteen in California a bunch of
years ago, maybe forty years ago, And what it did
is it limited the property tax to one percent of
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the value of the house one percent, and when the
house is transferred, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Whatever the new value is.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
In other words, let's say you bought a house for
one hundred thousand dollars and now it's worth four hundred
thousand dollars, and you transfer it, you sell it, or
whatever other than an interspousal and an interspousal transfer, the property
now is assessed at four hundred thousand dollars, and so
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therefore the property tax goes up four times and people were.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Getting taxed out of their houses.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Because the assessor also has the ability to come in
reassess whenever the assessor wants to, and quite often a
house would be reassessed. There you go back to you
one hundred thousand dollar house, and now it's worth a million.
And the assessor comes back and reassesses your house at
a million dollars, and all of a sudden, you're paying
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one percent. You're now paying ten thousand dollars a year
where you used to pay one thousand dollars. And so
it was breaking people. It was absolutely breaking people. That's
only at one percent. Property taxes were at three percent.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So now you.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Had not just ten thousand dollars on a million dollars,
you had thirty thousand dollars. So Prop thirteen stopped at cold.
And then the issue is reassessment, and reassessment happens when
a property is transferred, when it's sold, when it's inherited.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
All right, And then as far as the kids are concerned, Yeah,
I really don't know that one, and I really should.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
All right, let's take our last break, gonna come back
finish it up before we do.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Just a real quick one.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I want to talk about the Pain Game podcast just
for a second. If you live in chronic pain or
know someone who does, the Pain Game podcast is worth.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Listening to because it's about chronic pain. It's about people
who suffer pain.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And I've known the host, Lindsay and very close to
her for years, and she suffers this kind of pain.
Twenty four to seven and created the Pain Game podcast,
and it really is a message of hope. It's just
well worth listening to. It's the Pain Game Podcast, and
I'm going to suggest you take a listen because it's
pretty valuable stuff, especially if you hurt or know someone
who hurt. Who hurts, and I'm not talking about hurting
(21:35):
like I do on this show when you call in,
not that kind of hurt.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Every one, Hi, everyone.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
Hi, Yes, Okay, I bought Fredature leather couches at uh.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Don't mention.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I know we're gonna get sued.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Go ahead, Okay, it's a big store.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I bought leather couches. Paid about five thousand. I haven't
even had the couches for two years. And the couches
are leather, but like in like where your armrest is
in there, it's like vinyl and it's all falling apart.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Ooh okay, and.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
You know I had already when I bought the couches,
not even the first year. The one couch was falling apart.
So they came back and they you know, they.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
All right, I got it. So your question is.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Without a what do you call that where you pay
extra money sold warranty?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Without a warranty?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, without a warranty? Can I still sue them?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Well, the question I have is how fat are you
to begin with in terms of sitting on a couch.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I'm one hundred and I'm about one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Okay, good, So that's so the fact that you your.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Four hundred pounds is not a defense here. Yeah, I
see them. I sue them, and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Cool, I'll tell you why, because even though there's no warranty,
the argument is that a five thousand dollars couch should
not be falling apart. Yeah, and I think there is
a small claims judge that wouldn't agree with that.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
So absolutely, Well, you don't have a ward tea anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well, it doesn't matter, No, no, no, it doesn't matter.
It's defective.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
It is defective in that you've had it for two
years and it is falling apart.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Uh, you go too bad.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Tell that to the judge Small claim suit instantly, immediately, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Marty, Hi Marty, Hi Bill.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
I have a question.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
About four years ago, I was in car accident and
they found me at fault and I didn't like what
was it in the red so I hired a lawyer
and immediately sent me to a chiropractor, and after fourteen
weeks of visits, they decided they.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Didn't have a case. So I get about a.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Year ago, I started getting a bill from the chiropractice
saying they wanted me to pay fifteen hundred dollars. Well,
I called the lawyer and I said, hey, you know
I would have gone to chiropractory. You guys need to
pay this bill. And she says, I'm sorry, that's not
going to happen. And I want to know if I
was to like her.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Boss whoever runs that firm, is there a way.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
How do I approach them to get them to pay
the bill.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You have no legal laid to stand on here. I'm
assuming that the chiropractor dealt with your leg I'm assume
you agreed to have the treatment with the chiropractor. That
is a separate agreement between you and the lawyer. What
you have is a schlocky PI lawyer who sent you
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to a chiropractor, and most lawyers who would send you
under those circumstances you would not be charged, but you were,
and you owe the money. And you can't even sue
the lawyer because the lawyer simply referred you to a chiropractor.
(25:03):
And you're gonna say, but you sent me saying I
had to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You go no, he goes, no, I didn't. All I
said was if you hurt, here's who I recommend.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
See, that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
The fault here is not yours. You didn't do anything wrong.
The fault is you chose the wrong lawyer, which is
this is one.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Of the reasons, by the way, that I created handle
on the law dot com where the lawyers are vetted,
and they would never do this. They would call the
chiropractor and say, suck it up. And if a chiropractor
or a doctor has a relationship with the lawyer, then
(25:48):
that happens. But yeah, now it's time for you to
negotiate with the chiropractor and say, hey, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
What cut the bill.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Call the lawyer and say, would you negotiate on my behalf?
I went to you, you sent me there, I'm getting
a bill.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Would you help me out.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Not will you pay the money, is will you help
me reduce the amount of money that the chiropractor wants
or eliminated because most chiropractors that or doctors that work
with lawyers. And by the way, personal injury lawyers have
relationships with doctors and chiropractors and are legitimate by the way,
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because there's two kinds of doctors and both are legit
by the way, that deal with personal injury. One is
like kaiser that I belong to take two aspirin, leave
me alone, go home, And the other one is very
conservative and says I want to treat you, I want
to make sure that you don't have whiplash, or I
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want to make sure you're treated the best. Both are legit,
by the way, It's just one is a lot more conservative,
and that's the doctor that is used to go to
the insurance company with because the money that's paid to
you is all predicated on how serious the injury is.
And you don't want the take two aspirin and go
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home doctor. You want the I'm going to treat you
doctor to write up damages. Damages are medical bills, effectively
how badly you're injured.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
So that's where you want to go with that. Does
that help?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Whether it does or not, I have no Ideah, okay,
all right, bottom line we are done with the show.
I want to remind you, Oh oh, let me tell
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Speaker 2 (27:56):
And I know she should give them more time, but
I was too busy with Debbie.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
No, I was too busy with a previous caller. I've
already forgotten her name. Also, I am taking phone calls.
I'm going to continue to take phone calls off the air,
starting in just a minute. And you can call me
at the same number eight hundred five two zero one
five three four eight hundred five two zero one five
three four. No breaks, no commercials, no traffic, no weather,
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no patients. So as you can imagine, I zip through
these phone calls so quickly. And for those of you
that are on hold. Stay put. I will get to you,
and I'll be going for about another forty minutes.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Eight hundred five two zero one five three four. This
is handle on the law
This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell you you have absolutely no case. This is
a story, a case out of northern California in which
this woman who was a shoplifter won nearly a million
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dollar settlement from this small city in northern California called Brentwood.
And this is after a police dog bid her tore
at her scalp and the police at that time were
trying to take her into custody.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
So I mean, she's running away, she's.
Speaker 1 (00:41):
Just committed a crime. Turns out she had stolen a car.
She and a couple of friends. During the chase, she
rams into the police car that's chasing her somehow, and
so they bail out of the car and they start
running and she is now hidden try hide behind a bush.
(01:01):
So out comes the police officer with his canine German
shepherd named Marco, and there she was behind the bush.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
And here is why the city.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Settled for a million dollars because Marco the dog came
tearing around the bush while she was hiding and attacked her.
And she sued saying, you didn't even give me a
chance to come out of the bush, You didn't warn me,
(01:40):
You didn't say come out with your hands up. You
didn't say I have a dog here that's going to
eat you if you didn't come out nothing. The dog
just came around and attacked her and she was pretty
severely injured. Now the police chief said, oh no, this
is legitimate. The actions of this cop were justified. So
(02:04):
he then said, well, the city decided to settle the
suit to avoid further litigation and legal costs. So tell
Mika Bates gets nine hundred and sixty seven thousand dollars.
Has happened a two three years ago. And on the
body cam, because police now wear bodycam, you can hear
her screaming, oh my god, please get your dog as
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the dog.
Speaker 2 (02:28):
Was attacking her.
Speaker 1 (02:31):
And the cops the body camp someone else is seeing
pulling the dog's leash and she is yelling, my whole
skin is off.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
You know, usually.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
People who shoplift and then steal cars shoplift ten thousand dollars.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Worth of stuff.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
I mean, that's no small amount of shoplifting. You think
the police were justified, But under these circumstances, you know,
if I were a city official, I would probably pay
up also because I don't think she's going to lose
a case on this one.
Speaker 2 (03:08):
I really don't.
Speaker 1 (03:09):
All right, let's take some phone calls, Shannon. I think
we talked before, didn't we.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Shannon?
Speaker 4 (03:15):
Yes, oh yeah, you're Iranian.
Speaker 1 (03:17):
And I made fun of you and the chandeliers, right, yes, okay,
all right, all right?
Speaker 2 (03:23):
What can I do for you? Shannon?
Speaker 5 (03:26):
Okay, this tenant that you told me, Okay, don't pay
attention right now. Now she has she's suing me for
false claim that my house is uninhabitable.
Speaker 1 (03:42):
Okay, she's suing you for uninhabitability, right, yes, okay, how much?
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And what does she say is uninhabitable about the house?
Speaker 5 (03:52):
There is monster? How are you monisture in the world?
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Okay?
Speaker 2 (03:57):
And is there is there a mold? Is there mold? Shannon?
No mold, just moisture in the walls. Okay, mold?
Speaker 5 (04:07):
I brought my mold person.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
Okay, all right, So Shannon, let me interrupt you.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
So she's not claiming mold, She's simply claiming moisture in
the walls.
Speaker 2 (04:16):
Correct, No, she claims mold, okay, And there.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
Is no mold and there is no mold.
Speaker 5 (04:25):
According to my certified mold person, according to a scam
person that she brought.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
All right, here, Shannon, here's how do you know what's
a scam.
Speaker 2 (04:37):
That she has?
Speaker 5 (04:38):
Because because in the review of this person, there are
a lot of people saying that the business is not
doing the right thing, and.
Speaker 1 (04:54):
My moday, that's kind of hearsay though, that's the problem.
Speaker 2 (04:59):
So here, here's what you have. Let me tell you. Okay,
you're gonna go to court.
Speaker 1 (05:02):
She's gonna sue you and for I don't know, you know,
a million.
Speaker 5 (05:06):
Dollars three hundred thousand.
Speaker 1 (05:09):
Yeah, of course, I mean I'm surprised it's only three
hundred thousand, Shannon.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
I'm surprised it's only three hundred thousand.
Speaker 1 (05:15):
I wouldn't be surprised if it was three hundred million.
All right, I mean they're crazy. These people are nuts.
They they throw figures out there.
Speaker 5 (05:23):
That ail she's scamming meat.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
No, I understand, of course she is.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Shannon in the house.
Speaker 2 (05:31):
Okay, Shannon house, right, Shannon. Would would you like the
answer or do you want to just keep on talking?
Speaker 4 (05:37):
Yes? Yeah, okay.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
So you have one mold remediation company that says no mold.
I would get another one to come in and do
an examination and get two companies that are saying there's
no mold. Also, what I would do is she wants
to take you to court. Is there a lawyer involved
in this?
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Yes, she went to Los Julius.
Speaker 4 (06:00):
Okay, the lawyer Okay.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
All right, So unfortunately, you get to find a lawyer
or you can defend yourself because she's going to sue
your front inhabitability and she's going to say here's mold,
and you're gonna come up with two certified mold experts
that say there is no mold, and you are going
to submit some of the internet complaints against her. We'll
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see if the court takes that or not, saying that
the whole thing is a scam and you're gonna smile
and you're gonna win.
Speaker 2 (06:33):
That's what's gonna happen.
Speaker 5 (06:34):
Now, would you be able, not on the radio, give
me the name?
Speaker 1 (06:41):
No lawyer, No.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
Couldn't, wouldn't do it.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
You've gotta find a lawyer on your own on this one.
You got to do your research. Yeah, that's the way
it goes.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Yep.
Speaker 1 (06:51):
The only lawyers I refer is through handle on the
law dot com and that's it. And it happens to
be a law firm that does personal injury because there
are so many lawyers advertising and people don't know, they
have no idea where to go to. So that's why.
And no, I don't give individual referrals, absolutely not. Oh
(07:13):
real quickly, just before we go, I want to mention
there's a podcast out there that is being broadcast by
someone I really really care for who suffers a lot
of pain, chronic pain, and so she.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
Produced this podcast about.
Speaker 1 (07:28):
Pain and about dealing with pain, and people really appreciate this.
So if you're suffering from chronic pain or have someone
in your family maybe there's trauma that caused the pain,
let me suggest going to the Hi, Mary, welcome, Hi, Yes.
Speaker 6 (07:44):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (07:45):
Sure.
Speaker 6 (07:46):
My parents purchased a home in southern California in the
late sixties. They put it in the family trust in
the eighties. My dad died in the nineties. My mom
passed away in May of last year, seven twenty three.
I'd lived with her the last twenty years of her
life in the home. I moved out. We hired a
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real estate agent. In September of twenty three, I moved
out of the house and had everything cleared out and
the state tell everything by the end of November of
twenty three. The house was put on the market in
February of twenty four and it sold right away post
to escro by the end of March of twenty four.
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And we just got a letter at the end of
November that we owe like twelve thousand dollars in taxes
on the house because we didn't fill out the parent
to child form that I guess proposition nineteen changed.
Speaker 1 (08:51):
Were proposition way wait wait Proposition nineteen if I remember,
it was in the seventies and had to do with marijuana.
Speaker 6 (08:58):
It was the first thing, the wrong line, but the
one that was one that passed I guess in twenty
one that changed the way that proposition thirteen could be.
Speaker 1 (09:09):
Transfer all right, So you didn't fill out the appropriate
paperwork that where that twelve thousand dollars tax bill would
not have occurred, correct?
Speaker 3 (09:18):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (09:19):
Oh have you appealed it?
Speaker 6 (09:23):
No, we were not told we could appeal.
Speaker 2 (09:24):
Yes, you can appeal it.
Speaker 1 (09:25):
It's any any decision you want to appeal it with
the assessor's office. People appeal constantly and win and for
simply a clerical error that you are entitled to not
pay the tax or you don't have to pay the
tax simply by filling out a form and you didn't
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do it. That's pretty egregious to hit you with the tax.
You want to immediately file an appeal with the assessor's office. Okay,
And that's how to do it. And my guests, based
on that, I don't think you're going to lose on
that one.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
I think you'll be fine.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Okay, okay, okay, all right, that was it?
Speaker 2 (10:05):
Good good, good answer, good question. I found the law
students called okay, we'll do this one. Hi Philip, welcome.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
Hi, good morning. I recently sued a dealership in Santa Monica.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
What kind of dealers failed?
Speaker 3 (10:26):
What kind of dealer was awarded a judgment?
Speaker 2 (10:28):
Okay? What kind of dealership?
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Dealership?
Speaker 5 (10:32):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (10:32):
An auto dealer? Okay, And you were award You got
an award? How much?
Speaker 3 (10:37):
Two thousand, four hundred and twenty nine dollars?
Speaker 2 (10:40):
Fair enough?
Speaker 3 (10:42):
And I was wondering what I have to do to
collect the money.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Okay? When did you get the award? When was that
decision rendered? How long ago?
Speaker 3 (10:53):
Nineteen?
Speaker 2 (10:53):
How long ago?
Speaker 3 (10:54):
Just give me the Times, September nineteenth.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
Okay, that's how long ago? All right?
Speaker 3 (11:00):
I know there's a thirty day period where yeah, they.
Speaker 2 (11:03):
Have thirty days.
Speaker 1 (11:04):
They yeah, they have thirty days, all right, so they're
running past the thirty days.
Speaker 2 (11:08):
So now what do you do.
Speaker 1 (11:10):
I'm assuming you've contacted them and said, hey, guys, there's
a judgment.
Speaker 2 (11:13):
I'd like my money. You've done that, correct, Yes, I have?
And have they even responded.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
No, just verbally that no, they're I don't know, do
anything for me, okay.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
So there's a couple of things you can do.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Is you can try to find a bank account that
they have, and you can attach the bank account through.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
The Marshall's office.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
You could probably do and I think you can do
this a judgment debtor examination where you haul someone in
on the dealership and go wear your assets and that's
you can make the life miserable for them.
Speaker 3 (11:58):
How can I do that?
Speaker 2 (11:59):
Well, you have to apply for it.
Speaker 1 (12:00):
It's a it's a legal issue, and I think you
take some it's on the internet where you make an
its emotion is what it is, and the court grants
it automatically based on a judgment. And I think you
can do that if I'm not mistaken, and then all
you can it's a judgment debtor examination or debtor judgment examination.
Speaker 2 (12:22):
One of the two.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
Allows a or a judgment creditor allows a creditor to
haul someone in who is a debtor and start asking
about assets, start asking about where your assets where it is,
and you can go after them if they're trying to
hide assets.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
But you know that's can you try to do that? Yeah?
It just makes them miserable, and then you know what
I would do.
Speaker 1 (12:47):
There are websites that actually help you do it. It's
not easy if they don't want to pay you. I mean,
it's a hassle that you're going to have to collect.
I'm surprised that a dealership is ignoring you, I really am.
That usually doesn't happen. But just keep on hitting them
and you go on the internet and start complaining. Do
a review, there's a judgment, they refuse to pay it.
Speaker 2 (13:11):
People look at reviews all the time regarding dealerships.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
I would do that. You can't accuse them of being crooks.
You can't approve them of being.
Speaker 2 (13:19):
Frauds, because that is that slander.
Speaker 1 (13:22):
But you can certainly say I wasn't paid and I
have a judgment and it happened in whatever date it was.
Speaker 2 (13:29):
That you can do.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
It's always that's always tough, by the way, getting money
because people think that you get a judgment and then
the court's can enforce it.
Speaker 2 (13:37):
Absolutely not. Now to you business folks, a quick word here.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
The less your business spends on delivering your product or service,
the more margin you're gonna make, the more money you're
gonna make.
Speaker 2 (13:49):
And everything is more expensive these.
Speaker 1 (13:50):
Days, materials, employees, distribution, borrowing. I went to a sushi
restaurant last night. I could not believe how much it costs.
You can reduce costs and headaches and maybe bring down
the cost of sushi, probably.
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on the loan.
Speaker 2 (15:02):
Yeah, how to bill come in?
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Uh got to question the Uh my neighbor, Uh was
willed his home from his mother. The guy is uh,
uh pretty much a loser. He's in a position now
where he having a difficult time making his payment and Uh,
I want to buy the house from him.
Speaker 5 (15:26):
Uh.
Speaker 7 (15:27):
He's got a wife that he stays with because he's
afraid she's going to take him for everything he has
if they get divorced. Is that house since it was
willed to him prior to him ever meeting his wife
or knowing his wife? Uh? Is that house in the mix?
Speaker 1 (15:44):
No, it's his, it's his. He can do he can
do whatever he wants with it. Now here's where it
gets interesting. If you're buying the house at a fire
sale price.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Way way low market, I'm not. I'm not. Oh, are
you buying it close to market?
Speaker 7 (16:07):
To market.
Speaker 2 (16:07):
Oh you're fine. Then you're fine. She is not entitled
to anything.
Speaker 1 (16:12):
It's his house, he inherited, she has no access, she
has no claim. You write the check to him or
you know, he gets the benefit, and you're going to
be fine.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Okay.
Speaker 7 (16:24):
So the next part of the question is I want
to do something like a reverse mortgage with him on
a on a personal level. He owes two hundred and
fifty sixty thousand dollars on it. What I want to
do is pay the house off and then.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
You hear that that that's not a problem.
Speaker 1 (16:42):
But again, you know, it can't be at a fire
sale rate where you are getting huge advantage because then
you're open to the the relationship, the business agreement to
attack and you don't want to do that.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
So go ahead.
Speaker 7 (17:02):
Can I make an agreement with him or write up
a proposal with him where I pay off his mortgage,
I allow him to still live there.
Speaker 2 (17:09):
Yeah, that's a reverse mortgage.
Speaker 1 (17:10):
But if you're gonna do that, If you were going
to do that, you make sure a lawyer who does
real estate writes that. Puppy up. Okay, that's important. Yeah,
you don't want to do that one by yourself.
Speaker 2 (17:21):
By the way.
Speaker 1 (17:22):
Not only do you go ahead and do the paperwork,
but you let the wife know that she's getting screwed
completely and will never have any access to it.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
That's important.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
Okay, that's certainly part of the mix on this one.
Speaker 2 (17:41):
Am a due or I'm gonna do? Hello, I'm gonna do?
Do I have that right?
Speaker 4 (17:45):
Good morning?
Speaker 2 (17:45):
Bill? Yeah? Where are you from? What kind of name
is that I'm gonna do? I malu? D am alu? Okay,
where are you from?
Speaker 7 (17:54):
I am amado means loved one.
Speaker 5 (17:57):
Okay, my mama loved me.
Speaker 4 (17:59):
What can I say?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
But job?
Speaker 2 (18:03):
Hold on? Where are you from? I'm just curious. I've
never heard that name?
Speaker 7 (18:07):
Amado Mexico.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
Oh, it's Mexico, got it all right? Never heard that never?
But that's you know, why not, that's kind of a
neat name. I'll buy that, all right. What can I
do for you?
Speaker 5 (18:19):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (18:19):
My son is gonna inherit my home, and.
Speaker 7 (18:24):
I want to know if there's a way that he
can keep Prop thirteen on the property.
Speaker 2 (18:28):
No, not really, not for a son.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Uh huh, interspousal, I think I don't think the kids.
I may be wrong on this because every time I
say something I get a lawyer, it says, handle, you're
completely nuts, But I think it's only interspousal, you know what.
Speaker 2 (18:46):
Let me guess. Let me guess. Yeah, I don't think so.
I don't think so.
Speaker 1 (18:49):
But keep in mind that I may be completely wrong,
and I mean to look it up because I generally
don't care for those of you that don't know what
Prop thirteen is. Prop thirteen in California a bunch of
years ago, maybe forty years ago, And what it did
is it limited the property tax to one percent of
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the value of the house one percent, and when the
house is transferred, it's.
Speaker 2 (19:16):
Whatever the new value is.
Speaker 1 (19:19):
In other words, let's say you bought a house for
one hundred thousand dollars and now it's worth four hundred
thousand dollars, and you transfer it, you sell it, or
whatever other than an interspousal and an interspousal transfer, the property
now is assessed at four hundred thousand dollars, and so
(19:40):
therefore the property tax goes up four times and people were.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
Getting taxed out of their houses.
Speaker 1 (19:48):
Because the assessor also has the ability to come in
reassess whenever the assessor wants to, and quite often a
house would be reassessed. There you go back to you
one hundred thousand dollar house, and now it's worth a million.
And the assessor comes back and reassesses your house at
a million dollars, and all of a sudden, you're paying
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one percent. You're now paying ten thousand dollars a year
where you used to pay one thousand dollars. And so
it was breaking people. It was absolutely breaking people. That's
only at one percent. Property taxes were at three percent.
Speaker 2 (20:26):
So now you.
Speaker 1 (20:27):
Had not just ten thousand dollars on a million dollars,
you had thirty thousand dollars. So Prop thirteen stopped at cold.
And then the issue is reassessment, and reassessment happens when
a property is transferred, when it's sold, when it's inherited.
Speaker 2 (20:45):
All right, And then as far as the kids are concerned, Yeah,
I really don't know that one, and I really should.
Speaker 1 (20:51):
All right, let's take our last break, gonna come back
finish it up before we do.
Speaker 2 (20:58):
Just a real quick one.
Speaker 1 (20:59):
I want to talk about the Pain Game podcast just
for a second. If you live in chronic pain or
know someone who does, the Pain Game podcast is worth.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
Listening to because it's about chronic pain. It's about people
who suffer pain.
Speaker 1 (21:11):
And I've known the host, Lindsay and very close to
her for years, and she suffers this kind of pain.
Twenty four to seven and created the Pain Game podcast,
and it really is a message of hope. It's just
well worth listening to. It's the Pain Game Podcast, and
I'm going to suggest you take a listen because it's
pretty valuable stuff, especially if you hurt or know someone
who hurt. Who hurts, and I'm not talking about hurting
(21:35):
like I do on this show when you call in,
not that kind of hurt.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Every one, Hi, everyone.
Speaker 8 (21:43):
Hi, Yes, Okay, I bought Fredature leather couches at uh.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
Don't mention.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
I know we're gonna get sued.
Speaker 4 (21:50):
Go ahead, Okay, it's a big store.
Speaker 2 (21:54):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (21:54):
I bought leather couches. Paid about five thousand. I haven't
even had the couches for two years. And the couches
are leather, but like in like where your armrest is
in there, it's like vinyl and it's all falling apart.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Ooh okay, and.
Speaker 4 (22:12):
You know I had already when I bought the couches,
not even the first year. The one couch was falling apart.
So they came back and they you know, they.
Speaker 2 (22:20):
All right, I got it. So your question is.
Speaker 4 (22:25):
Without a what do you call that where you pay
extra money sold warranty?
Speaker 2 (22:29):
Without a warranty?
Speaker 4 (22:31):
Yeah, without a warranty? Can I still sue them?
Speaker 2 (22:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:34):
Well, the question I have is how fat are you
to begin with in terms of sitting on a couch.
Speaker 4 (22:38):
I'm one hundred and I'm about one hundred and thirty.
Speaker 1 (22:41):
Okay, good, So that's so the fact that you your.
Speaker 2 (22:44):
Four hundred pounds is not a defense here. Yeah, I
see them. I sue them, and I'll tell you why.
Speaker 1 (22:52):
Cool, I'll tell you why, because even though there's no warranty,
the argument is that a five thousand dollars couch should
not be falling apart. Yeah, and I think there is
a small claims judge that wouldn't agree with that.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
So absolutely, Well, you don't have a ward tea anymore.
Speaker 2 (23:11):
Well, it doesn't matter, No, no, no, it doesn't matter.
It's defective.
Speaker 1 (23:16):
It is defective in that you've had it for two
years and it is falling apart.
Speaker 5 (23:23):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
Uh, you go too bad.
Speaker 1 (23:25):
Tell that to the judge Small claim suit instantly, immediately, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
Marty, Hi Marty, Hi Bill.
Speaker 7 (23:35):
I have a question.
Speaker 8 (23:37):
About four years ago, I was in car accident and
they found me at fault and I didn't like what
was it in the red so I hired a lawyer
and immediately sent me to a chiropractor, and after fourteen
weeks of visits, they decided they.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
Didn't have a case. So I get about a.
Speaker 8 (23:55):
Year ago, I started getting a bill from the chiropractice
saying they wanted me to pay fifteen hundred dollars. Well,
I called the lawyer and I said, hey, you know
I would have gone to chiropractory. You guys need to
pay this bill. And she says, I'm sorry, that's not
going to happen. And I want to know if I
was to like her.
Speaker 4 (24:11):
Boss whoever runs that firm, is there a way.
Speaker 8 (24:14):
How do I approach them to get them to pay
the bill.
Speaker 1 (24:18):
You have no legal laid to stand on here. I'm
assuming that the chiropractor dealt with your leg I'm assume
you agreed to have the treatment with the chiropractor. That
is a separate agreement between you and the lawyer. What
you have is a schlocky PI lawyer who sent you
(24:39):
to a chiropractor, and most lawyers who would send you
under those circumstances you would not be charged, but you were,
and you owe the money. And you can't even sue
the lawyer because the lawyer simply referred you to a chiropractor.
(25:03):
And you're gonna say, but you sent me saying I
had to do it.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
You go no, he goes, no, I didn't. All I
said was if you hurt, here's who I recommend.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
You.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
See, that's the problem.
Speaker 5 (25:16):
I mean.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
The fault here is not yours. You didn't do anything wrong.
The fault is you chose the wrong lawyer, which is
this is one.
Speaker 1 (25:25):
Of the reasons, by the way, that I created handle
on the law dot com where the lawyers are vetted,
and they would never do this. They would call the
chiropractor and say, suck it up. And if a chiropractor
or a doctor has a relationship with the lawyer, then
(25:48):
that happens. But yeah, now it's time for you to
negotiate with the chiropractor and say, hey, you know.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
What cut the bill.
Speaker 1 (25:57):
Call the lawyer and say, would you negotiate on my behalf?
I went to you, you sent me there, I'm getting
a bill.
Speaker 2 (26:05):
Would you help me out.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Not will you pay the money, is will you help
me reduce the amount of money that the chiropractor wants
or eliminated because most chiropractors that or doctors that work
with lawyers. And by the way, personal injury lawyers have
relationships with doctors and chiropractors and are legitimate by the way,
(26:28):
because there's two kinds of doctors and both are legit
by the way, that deal with personal injury. One is
like kaiser that I belong to take two aspirin, leave
me alone, go home, And the other one is very
conservative and says I want to treat you, I want
to make sure that you don't have whiplash, or I
(26:50):
want to make sure you're treated the best. Both are legit,
by the way, It's just one is a lot more conservative,
and that's the doctor that is used to go to
the insurance company with because the money that's paid to
you is all predicated on how serious the injury is.
And you don't want the take two aspirin and go
(27:10):
home doctor. You want the I'm going to treat you
doctor to write up damages. Damages are medical bills, effectively
how badly you're injured.
Speaker 2 (27:17):
So that's where you want to go with that. Does
that help?
Speaker 1 (27:23):
Whether it does or not, I have no Ideah, okay,
all right, bottom line we are done with the show.
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Speaker 2 (27:56):
And I know she should give them more time, but
I was too busy with Debbie.
Speaker 1 (28:02):
No, I was too busy with a previous caller. I've
already forgotten her name. Also, I am taking phone calls.
I'm going to continue to take phone calls off the air,
starting in just a minute. And you can call me
at the same number eight hundred five two zero one
five three four eight hundred five two zero one five
three four. No breaks, no commercials, no traffic, no weather,
(28:24):
no patients. So as you can imagine, I zip through
these phone calls so quickly. And for those of you
that are on hold. Stay put. I will get to you,
and I'll be going for about another forty minutes.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Eight hundred five two zero one five three four. This
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