(12/21) HOTL Hour 1

Handel on the Law. Marginal Legal Advice.

Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listenings k i AM six forty the Bill Handles
show on demand on the iHeartRadio ap jy AM six forty.
Good handle here.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
It is a Saturday morning, just before Christmas, and that's
on Tuesday, Tuesday night Christmas Eve, and Wednesday is Honkah.

Speaker 1 (00:27):
So that's kind of neat. That doesn't happen very often
when Christmas coincides with the Honkah because they are two
totally different calendars, so every once in a while you
have a confluence. Any case, I'll be here until eleven
o'clock and then Neil. Neil doesn't come to board till
two o'clock. It's Rich the Murrow with a tech show

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at eleven. It's eleven to two, and then we have
Neil from two to five. So it's a full day.
And Neil, of course says the Fork Report. He's with
me Monday through Friday, Fork Report, which we do a
footy segment on Friday, and then his show this afternoon
from two to five. Phone numbers here for legal advice
as always eight hundred five two zero one five three four,

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eight hundred five two zero one five three four and
that is the number at the top of the hour,
and we have a couple of phone calls coming in,
so today we may have a full board. You never know,
We never know. I mean this is it's all controlled
by you, and which means the show is either fantastically

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interesting where you're calling because you're an imbecile, or I
can't understand you, or you have just this fantastic set
of circumstances, or you just crazy questions, which I love,
by the way, And of course I love it when
I tell you you have absolutely no case, and counter
to that, I hate it when I tell you you

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have a case and generally say you know, this is
one it's obviously beyond my pay grade, and you have
to go to an attorney that knows what he or
she is doing. And that is generally the case, by
the way, because there's in case you haven't guessed it yet.
I have vast, vast and very deep legal knowledge eight
hundred and five two zero one, five three four. This

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is handle on the law marginal legal events where I
tell you have absolutely no case. We have a new
administration coming aboard on January twentieth, and a couple of
things are going to happen a lot of promises that
Donald Trump has made on day one that seems to
be now the mantra of any new president coming into

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office day one. All right, puts the hand up, swears
to defend the Constitution in the United States, and as
the hand goes down, picks up a pen and now
starts signing. And one of the things, well one of
them is the deportation start immediately. They're not going to
start immediately. And others, we're going to do away with regulation.

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We're going to do away with all kinds of regulatory rules, EPA,
FDA rules. But I'll tell you what is going to
happen that he has promised time and time again, which
I believe is actually going to be the case for January,
January twentieth, as he has sworn in as the next
president of United States, he has promised and reiterated once

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again that he will pardon the January sixth rioters. Now,
is it going to be across the board? I cannot
imagine that. I mean, the vast majority will be pardoned.
He has said they are not rioters, they were not insurrectionists,
they were not trying to overrun the capital and stop

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an election, a peaceful transfer Nope. They were patriots. They
were trying to uphold the Constitution, and they were there peaceably,
and it was simply.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
A sort of all a peaceful demonstration against what was
going on in Congress, which, in the death itself, was
a violation of the Constitution in arguing that Mike Pence
had the duty to.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
Not certify the election, which, by the way, not only
did he have a duty, he had no choice. I'm
talking about Mike Pence. I mean, that's the law. He
could have failed to certify and then someone else would have. Okay,
So the vast majority of the January sixth rioters will
be pardoned, and the only issue is how far those

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pardons are going to go. Does he pardon those people
that bashed in police officers' heads, that took the shields
and attacked the police officers with their shields, with their batons,
with the flag poles that they were taking the I
don't know. I hope not. I can't imagine he would,

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because even staunch members of the Republican Party who are
defense of Donald Trump, you know, it's going to be
a hard argument to say that when you see someone
breaking windows to get into the Capitol building, or tearing
down the fence or bashing police officers. It was a

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peaceful demonstration. I don't know. I can't imagine that he
would do that, at least I don't think so, and
he may surprise me, by the way. And I think
there's a lot of bluster and what he says politically,
and I'm talking about the tariffs with China and Mexico
and Canada, the withdrawal of NATO, stopping the weapons going

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into Ukraine. He's going to be calling Putin and Zelensky
and stopping the war Day one. I think a lot
of that is bluster. I do, because he negotiates fro him.
He starts at a position not of strength, but at
a position of almost insane entity, which, by the way,
works for him because let's say you you want to

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go to a five. Both sides will agree to a five.
So opponents of his come in at a three and
they're going to negotiate themselves up to a five. He
comes in at a ten or a twelve or a
fifteen and will negotiate down thinking it's he's in a
stronger position, going way way above the board, and he's right.
By the way, it has worked for him, and hopefully

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it works for him and works for us. We'll see
what happens. All right, we're gonna take a break, come
back and get right into phone calls. Eight hundred five
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Law and this is K five. You're handled here on

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a Saturday morning. The phone number for legal advice eight
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five two zero one five three four. This is Handle
on the Law marginal legal advice, where I tell you
have no case. Right, Susan, Hi, Susan, Welcome. What can

(07:14):
I do for you? Hello, Susan, Hell, it is your turn. Also,
you are very echoe so you're speaking into a speakerphone radio.

Speaker 4 (07:27):
I just didn't know what you were going to be.

Speaker 1 (07:30):
Yes, you are, Yes you are. Also are you on
a speakerphone or talking on bluetooth in the car? What
are you doing right now?

Speaker 4 (07:39):
I will your speakerphone in my car?

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Yeah it's terrible. I can Yeah, pull over or put
the phone up to your ear. You get stopped by
a cop, just say you're on the phone with Bill
Handle and he'll go oh, you're on the phone with
Bill Handle. Okay, the law doesn't apply to you. Okay,
go ahead.

Speaker 4 (07:58):
Okay, I am pulled over, good and you are not
on speaker, and I'm going to shut my car off
the even.

Speaker 1 (08:07):
Better not even better, even better? Okay better, yeah, no,
go ahead and ask your question.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Okay, I little across a street from a school which
is part public and partially private.

Speaker 1 (08:19):
Okay, explain that to me. Hold on, let's stop right there.
What is a partially public and partially private school?

Speaker 4 (08:26):
Partially a private religious school, and partially I'm told from
the town, the city hall that they get funding from
the state.

Speaker 1 (08:35):
Okay, that's not a public that's not that's not a
private that's not a public school. It is a private
school that is funded by government to an extent. They're
on some kind of a grant, which is kind of
weird because separation of church and state wouldn't allow that
to happen. But okay, uh, they figure some way of
doing that, all right, So you've got a private school
on your hands, now, what.

Speaker 4 (08:57):
Yes, I keep getting blocked in my driveway from the
parents twice a day who drop off and pick up
their children. They completely block my driveway, and I explained
to them many times, I need to get out of
my driveway, my car is running heating up, I'm on
my way out, and very often the parents will get

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hostile and say, you're just going to have to wait
for me. I'm going to go in the school first.

Speaker 1 (09:24):
Why don't you call the Why don't you call the
police and have them towed away?

Speaker 4 (09:29):
I did. They called their resident police officer, and they said, well,
we have bigger fish to fry in the city.

Speaker 1 (09:37):
No, no, no, what is there? What is their resident
police officer? Is there a uh city police officer there
that is assigned a cop, a real cop, badge, gun,
et cetera, that's assigned just to the school. Or is
it some kind of a resource officer.

Speaker 4 (09:56):
Yeah, a resident police officer is supposed to to help
the community get along. They are a police officer, but
they are employed really or their assignment is solely to
the school.

Speaker 1 (10:10):
Okay, so it's a city cop that is assigned to
the school, correct, Yes, okay, all right, And he says
we have bigger fish to fry and he won't help.

Speaker 5 (10:20):
Right.

Speaker 4 (10:22):
Well, he said that one of the women who told
me I have to wait for her to go in
and out of the school before she moves her car
and lets me out, told him she felt threatened.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
It doesn't matter. That has nothing to do with her
blocking her blocking your driveway, doesn't matter, two completely separate incidents.
And so if he won't do it, you call the
sergeant in charge. You go right up the command to
the precinct head of the precinct, which is probably a captain,
and say this is what's going on. This cop is

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doing this and put in a formal comp Okay, that's
for starters. Now, if the woman says you threaten her,
you know that cop on the school and may come
out and arrest you for all I know, and believes
the woman trouble. No, well that's your choice, Susan. That's

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your choice. If you don't want to get into an altercation.

Speaker 4 (11:24):
No, no, no, it's your choice.

Speaker 1 (11:27):
You're not paying attention to me. It is your choice
to decide. I believe you didn't get into an altercation.
You didn't threaten her, she's saying you did. Now, if
the cop believes her, the cop can in fact put
handcuffs on you and arrest you. So when you go
out there and talk to anybody, you bring your phone
and you record every bit of it.

Speaker 4 (11:49):
Ah.

Speaker 1 (11:51):
And if you in fact are harassed by the police,
you and maybe arrested or harassment, that's part of your complaint.
That is part of your complaint, okay, and you should
be okay, and you know, get the car towed.

Speaker 4 (12:07):
Well, they said if by the time they come out
the car is moved, they can't do anything.

Speaker 1 (12:11):
It has to be And then you go out. Then
you go out and in front of her, you pick
up the phone and you see this card is in
front of me, and I want her to move. And
if she keeps on moving, then what you do is unfortunately,
you got to get to court. I think you have
to go to court and get a cord order saying
she can't do that, and then you video for doing it,

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and you video and then you go into court for
an order of contempt because you got a cord order,
you have an injunction and she breaches that injunction. If
she breaches and breaches the injunction, then that's what happens, right, okay.
Or you can take a baseball back and break her windows,
you know, smash all her windows. You can do that.

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Or take a knife and you know, throw them in
their tires and flatten the tires. That means you can't
get it. That means she's really blocking you. So there's
a bunch of things, right, Okay, so you conflate the two.
You can't do that. You know there are two separate,
two separate instances. Not great when you live near a school.
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know is Saturday morning? What days that fall on? Is
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Speaker 6 (15:33):
Hello John, Good morning sir. How are you, sir? Okay?
Do some ride share driving? Six months ago I bought
a car that was said that it would be allowed
to drive. Now six months later, today I have thirty
days that they say they will deactivate the car, and

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I'm wondering, can I sue them in small claims quote,
because if I wouldn't have bought an older model car
this late, if I had not a No.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Yeah, let me ask you a question, because I know,
if I'm not mistaken, both of the two big companies
Lift and Uber the car has to be within five
years and no cars are allowed that are more than
five years old. And yet you had a car that
is if I'm looking at the computer screen, you had

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a car that is what fourteen years old?

Speaker 6 (16:26):
Right? Well? They approved it six months ago.

Speaker 1 (16:29):
Yeah, No, I understand, And let me ask you, and
you're okay. You bought that car predicated on your understanding
that they would approve it. In other words, you bought
it for the purposes of driving rideshare, correct, Yes, okay,
So let's say you go to you know, there's an

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argument there. So let's say you go to small claim score.
How much money are you going to ask for?

Speaker 6 (16:56):
Well, I paid like five thousand for the vehicle, so okay, you.

Speaker 1 (17:00):
Want your five Basically, you want five thousand dollars back
from the ride share company.

Speaker 6 (17:03):
Well, I'd actually like this a little more than that
for my trouble.

Speaker 1 (17:07):
You don't get No, you don't get money for your
trouble in small claims court. They couldn't care less. It's
actual damages. Okay, it's here's the money. Here's what I'm
suing for for your trouble. You can ask one hundred
thousand dollars. You know, it's your trouble, is not my
trouble kind of thing. Well, a couple of points here,
I think. Did you're saying you didn't know the rules,

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so you bought the car first, and then you applied.

Speaker 6 (17:32):
For the ride share Yes, sir, they didn't tell me
that in six months this car wouldn't be deactivated.

Speaker 1 (17:38):
Well no, no, I understand, no, no, no, I know,
I get it. I get it. And so the argument, see,
here's what you have to argue is you bought the
car beforehand for the purpose of driving for the ride
share company. It's not you bought the car and then
after the fact you applied and then they went ahead
and activated then deactivated. That is that there's not much there.

(18:03):
So I think what you're arguing is something called detrimental
reliance that you relied on there detrimentally. And what you're
you would have to argue is I would never have
bought the car. But their argument is, but wait a minute,
you bought the car and then you applied. You see,
there's there's an issue there, and so that's a tough one.

(18:26):
Detrimental reliance is I'm sorry.

Speaker 6 (18:29):
They said it would be allowed.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
I understand, but that was after the.

Speaker 6 (18:32):
Fact, No, as before checked.

Speaker 1 (18:37):
Oh, you said they said that a car fourteen years
old would be allowed. Correct.

Speaker 6 (18:43):
They have a list of the minimum years they accept.

Speaker 1 (18:46):
And it is and fourteen years is part of that list.

Speaker 6 (18:50):
Right, really.

Speaker 1 (18:53):
Really?

Speaker 6 (18:53):
And it was approved?

Speaker 1 (18:55):
No, No, after the fact, it was approved, not beforehand.
Did you do they say these are what we need.
We need insurance, we need your driving record. Here is
how new the car is, and fourteen years is okay?
That's on their website. Correct.

Speaker 6 (19:14):
June of last year. I checked all of that before
I bought the car.

Speaker 1 (19:17):
Again, did they say a car fourteen years is okay
to drive?

Speaker 6 (19:25):
Yes?

Speaker 1 (19:25):
And that's still on the website.

Speaker 6 (19:28):
I took a copy of it.

Speaker 1 (19:29):
Okay, I mean that's okay, that's news to me. I mean,
I think that's great. Do you know how old they
will allow people to drive? Does it give a figure?

Speaker 6 (19:38):
Well, no, I don't know personally how old someone has
to be to drive.

Speaker 1 (19:42):
No, no, no, no no. Do they give a figure
as to how old they allow a car to be?
Do they say up to fourteen years do they say
up to twenty years old? What do they say on
that website?

Speaker 6 (19:56):
I'd have to check, But you got to check. I'd
have to check.

Speaker 1 (20:00):
You'd have to check, because what you're saying is they
first allowed a car. It was right there, your honor.
It was right there. It said I can drive a
car fourteen year up to fourteen years old, or I
can drive a car up to twenty or twenty five
years old, and they're fine with that, and they okayed it,
and now I'm out. So then you wanted to say, okay,

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so now you're detrimental reliance And they gave me the okay,
and then they took it back and you need that screenshot.
You got to prove to the court. There it is
right there. Fourteen years or older or up to fourteen
years I can drive. Now do I think that's the case? No,
because from my understanding, they're pretty clear it's up to

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five years. But you know, I don't have a screenshot
in front of me. And then you may want to
go to court, and then you have to argue you
bought the car for the purpose of ride sharing. That's
why I bought the car, no other reason. Have another car?

Speaker 6 (21:02):
No?

Speaker 1 (21:03):
Okay, So what did you do without a car?

Speaker 6 (21:08):
Well, you know I'm a senior citizen, so I used
the car for a ride share and.

Speaker 1 (21:14):
No, no, I understand what did you if you didn't have
a car before that? Correct, yes I did, you did? So,
now did you replace the car? Did you get rid
of the car? Or now you have two cars?

Speaker 6 (21:27):
Some mechanical problems and I could not use that.

Speaker 1 (21:30):
Do you have two cars?

Speaker 6 (21:32):
No? I only have this one deal.

Speaker 5 (21:34):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (21:34):
So here is their argument too, you were replacing your
car anyway, you can't prove that you bought this car
because your old car had mechanical problems and it wasn't driveable.
So now you buy a new car. But I only
bought it for the purposes of the right share that not
for my personal use.

Speaker 6 (21:52):
It was in an accident.

Speaker 1 (21:54):
I'm not arguing that. I'm not arguing that. Okay, I
get it, I get it, John. But here is you
are is that you didn't buy You didn't replace your
car for any other reason than to do the ride share,
not for going to the store, not for going to
a friend's house, nothing, just for the ride share. I mean,
you've got some issues. Actually, I spent a long time

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with that. But it's it's kind of interesting case. Uh well,
you know, no, actually it isn't. But that's besides the point.
All right, Jim, Hello Jim, good morning Bill.

Speaker 7 (22:28):
Yes, sir, First, I want to say I really respect
you for overcoming your addiction to drugs. I mean, that's
that's that's an achievement.

Speaker 1 (22:39):
Yeah, that was nineteen eighty three, Jim. Okay, most people
that was that was a while ago. We're looking at
what forty yeah, forty one years ago.

Speaker 7 (22:52):
Well that's a great accomplishment.

Speaker 1 (22:54):
Okay, all right, I appreciate it. Okay, I'll take that
I usually have a hard time with comp but I'll
take that. Thanks, Jim. All right, what can I do
for you?

Speaker 7 (23:05):
I just was recently diagnosed with stage four prostate cancer
and I have had continuous great medical care with San
sum and Cottage Hospital and Ridley Tree here in Santa Barbara.
So I asked my personal injury lawyer about this. He's

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an executor of my will, and he says, you know,
you might have a case there. Why didn't they test
you for that? Why did they get to stage foard?

Speaker 1 (23:34):
What do you mean you might hold on you might
have a case against the medical facility for not testing
you previously because you had some kind of symptoms or
a general test. What malpractice is lawyer saying was committed
on you.

Speaker 7 (23:49):
Because they failed to do complete testing, tested for everything else.

Speaker 1 (23:56):
I get it. Okay, So what's your what's your question?
What's your question?

Speaker 7 (24:01):
They made my personal injury lawyer he does so, he
doesn't do medical Maybe he should talk to medical malpractice.

Speaker 1 (24:09):
I give you the same advice.

Speaker 7 (24:13):
You know, why didn't they test me?

Speaker 1 (24:14):
No, they understand this, you know, Jim, that's a legitimate question.
I would ask that, and I certainly would talk to
a medical malpractice attorney, because here's your argument. Uh, the
normal course of events, appropriate medical treatment. When I came
in with prostate cancer, was doing this or I came

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in for whatever symptoms. Uh, you didn't do the test
that should have been done, and now I'm at stage four,
and had you done this the test, I wouldn't be
at stage four. Yeah I would. I would certainly go
to a medical malpractice attorney. I mean, how close are
Stage four is pretty serious stuff, Jim, how much time

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do you have to live? Did they tell you now?

Speaker 7 (25:01):
They say I may recover from him. I'm sixty six.
My parents' grandparents lived into their nineties, so you know
I'm optimistic about recovery.

Speaker 6 (25:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (25:10):
Well, you know, legally, legally, i'd much rather have you
say I'm gone in two months. It'd be a much
better case. You know that, don't you.

Speaker 7 (25:18):
I'm not ready.

Speaker 1 (25:19):
Yeah, well then you got your choice. All right. Here
you go a fabulous case where you're about to die,
and a case so you're going to be recovering. I mean,
it's still a case, but it's not nearly as good
as the other one. I mean, coming in there in
a coffin and arguing is really really impressive stuff. Okay,

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so what's your question.

Speaker 7 (25:42):
Yeah, I have great executors, and I want to say
one other thing. So he said, we'll get ten years
of medical records.

Speaker 6 (25:50):
So they're going to.

Speaker 2 (25:51):
Give those to me medical records.

Speaker 1 (25:54):
Yeah, you can get them.

Speaker 7 (25:55):
Yeah, ten years of medical records is like four hundred pages.

Speaker 1 (26:00):
That's all right, So you'll get four hundred pages. Doesn't
matter your medical malpractice ser he goes through four hundred pages, yep.

Speaker 7 (26:07):
And then he'll make a determination that's correct.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
That's correct, and it'll be actually it'll be a doctor
who makes the determination because the case has to be
certified first. But yeah, you go to a med mal attorney,
that's easy. And you're a personal injury lawyer. I would
give you the same advice. So that's good advice. This
is Handle on the Law KF I handle here. On

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All right, Alison. Hi, Alison, Hi, how are you? What
can I do for you? Yeah, I'm here.

Speaker 8 (27:00):
I have a question. I have a car loan and
my car was recently deemed a total loss from an accident.
But the lender, when I called them and speaking with
the insurance company, I found out that they forgot to
put themselves on as lean holder. So my question is
if I get that money and I continue to pay

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the loan, do they have any recourse?

Speaker 1 (27:25):
No? No, no, they don't if you continue to pay
on the loan. The fact that they forgot to put
themselves as leanholder simply makes the loan non secured. That's it.
The liane just secures the loan, No, and you become
just a straight out debtor. So they have no rights

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beyond any other debtor. And if you're paying the loan,
they don't care. Just pay the loan, okay, Yeah, how
much money do you owe on the car?

Speaker 8 (27:57):
I owe like fourteen thousand, going to give me a
little like seventeen and I wanted to use that to
pay off credit card debt and then just pay on
my car loan. And now you can do that rate.

Speaker 1 (28:06):
Yeah, you can do that? And how long are you
going to be paying your monthly payments?

Speaker 8 (28:11):
I think probably another two years.

Speaker 1 (28:13):
Okay, well your question is can you do that? Absolutely?
And are they going to foreclothes or grab the car? Absolutely?

Speaker 5 (28:22):
Not?

Speaker 1 (28:23):
Done? Ho yo?

Speaker 6 (28:25):
Done?

Speaker 5 (28:27):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (28:27):
Bill?

Speaker 5 (28:28):
A quick question. Substitution of service. I had a punk
kid on into me and Bob was driver's license. I
went to the house of serve the papers for small
claims and his mother comes to the door, and his
mother says, Oh, you don't live here, So I want
that twice? Can I When can I do a substitutional service?

Speaker 1 (28:46):
I don't understand a substitution of service and I don't
understand where you're going with that. What does that mean?

Speaker 5 (28:54):
When I served the papers for the pre apport a
small claims court?

Speaker 1 (28:56):
Yeah, no, I get it. Okay, you have the document,
he's not there. Haven't served him substitute?

Speaker 5 (29:01):
What?

Speaker 6 (29:01):
No?

Speaker 5 (29:03):
Well, you know there's a I want to learn a
small clan card you can service or give.

Speaker 6 (29:08):
Give it to his mother.

Speaker 1 (29:09):
That's so that's news to me. That's news to me.
I think you have to have personal service. You have
to physically serve the person and if they're evading service,
then you get to find that person, and if they're
evading intersexual and evading no, because what happens if the
bomb doesn't tell him? Yeah, what happens if you grab

(29:30):
a friend and simply throws it away, then he's never
been served. So now there's a date he doesn't know
about it. Now if you hand it to him, that's
proper service.

Speaker 5 (29:42):
Then yeah, like I said, he evaded me, Yeah you could.

Speaker 1 (29:47):
Yeah, so what so he evade you? Yeah, I mean
you have to have a proper service. You have to
have real service to make this thing. Oh, that's why
I didn't understand substitution of service. Bad breath. We all
sort of suffer from bad breath at some point. I
mean you wake up in the morning, who doesn't have it?
And then after eating garlic and onions, I mean great stuff,

(30:07):
but yeah, you can spell it, you can feel it.
So a couple of ways of dealing with it. One
is brushing your teeth, but that only is sort of
temporary in your mouth and it doesn't go very long
and it feels good though. And then taking a mint,
I mean that works in your mouth and it works
for a little while, and that's great. But let me
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(30:29):
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