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five three four. Okay, welcome to you handle on the
law marginal legal advice where I tell you have no case.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
Now this is a fun one.
Speaker 1 (04:07):
There are lawsuits for defamation, and then there are lawsuits
for defamation. There are a bunch of rules incidentally about
the lawsuits whenever someone argues they've been defamed. And there
are two kinds of people in the world of lawsuits
for defamation and and those two figures or those two
types of people are one private people. That is, you
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defame me publicly. But I'm a private person, which I
am not by the way, I'm considered a public person
because of the fact that I'm on radio. So that's
the second category public people. And the rules for public
people is they're a lot looser. It's harder to sue
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private people. It's easier to quote commit libel. So usually
when public people are su ude, it's kind of hard
to prove defamation. And this was a lawsuit. Drake, the
rapper had accused Lamar.
Speaker 2 (05:15):
And I was horrible with names.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
Anyway, Lamar is Detric I think it is Detrick Lamar,
Derek lamarck Frendrick Lamar. You see, I don't listen to
that stuff, so what can I tell you? Anyway, So
Ken Drake accuses Kendrick Lamar and the record company of
defaming him because Kendrick Lamar released promoted.
Speaker 2 (05:41):
A rap disc called not Like Us, So Us Do?
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Judge Jeanette Vargas ruled that Lamar's criticisms of Drake in
this song not Like Us, including his claim quote I
hear you like him young in reference to the accusation
that there were sex with young people, it did not
amount to defamation. Now come on, guys, you're accusing someone
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of having sex with minors, and that's not defamation. It wasn't,
and why wasn't it because a reasonable listener could not
have concluded that Not Like Us was conveying objective facts
about break Drake. So here's the rule. Making an accusation
against someone that is horrific. Horrific can go over the
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top and not be defamation because no one believes it.
In other words, if I defame you, I'm uttering a
fact and it is believable and it's plausible, and therefore
that's defamation. But if I accuse you of breaking into
the New York Zoo, the Brooklyn Zoo and having sex
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with five girafts before they caught you, that is so
ridiculous that it's not defamation. My favorite it's not defamation
was Jerry Fallwell.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
The televangelist.
Speaker 1 (07:11):
I don't know if you remember Hustler magazine, which was
pretty out there. So Hustler Magazine had a cartoon of
Jerry Fallwell running out of an outhouse having just have
sex with his mother in the outhouse, and of course
he sued for defamation. He sued Hustler magazine. Now was
that defamation? Jerry Fallwell actually went onto the stand. He
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was put on the stand and was asked about it.
Do you think you were the faint?
Speaker 2 (07:41):
Yes? I was all right.
Speaker 1 (07:43):
So here's this cartoon of you leaving the outhouse after
having sex with your mother in the outhouse. Do you
think anybody, anybody out there would believe that that happened?
Speaker 2 (07:58):
Of course not.
Speaker 1 (08:00):
We're tangulous. That would never happen to everybody knows it precisely.
It was so ridiculous, over the top. No one believed
it because it was so crazy, and so the case
was dismissed.
Speaker 2 (08:16):
Now this case accusing.
Speaker 1 (08:21):
Drake of having sex with a minor or, saying I
hear you like him young. Well, you know, Drake's a
public figure, or Kendrick is a public figure, so a
lot more leeway would go.
Speaker 2 (08:36):
See how that works.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Yeah, that was my favorite lawsuit. Boy, if you can
pull I don't know if you can. If there's a
record or there's a video of that cartoon out there someplace,
or a photo, man, that's worth looking at.
Speaker 2 (08:50):
It is absolutely hilarious and outrageous.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
All right, we'll take a break and come back and
we'll start taking the phone calls.
Speaker 2 (08:57):
This is handle on the law.
Speaker 1 (09:02):
A second with have no no, sorry, Heather, Right a minute,
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Don't handle here? It is a Saturday morning phone number,
eight hundred five two zero one five three four eight
hundred five two zero one five three four h Raphael. Hello, welcome,
(09:30):
Hello Raphael.
Speaker 4 (09:32):
Hey, how are you doing?
Speaker 2 (09:33):
Built?
Speaker 4 (09:33):
Yes, sir, okay, just I'll make it a fleet and
quick care for you. Basically, I own a business and
uh I loan my personal vehicle to employee. I was
just pushing a car. Start about that.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Anyway, pushing a car.
Speaker 4 (09:53):
Yeah, that's why I'm that's fun.
Speaker 1 (09:55):
Oh yeah, that'll do it. Okay, So you loaned you
loaned your vehicle? Was it a company vehicle or a
private vehicle?
Speaker 4 (10:03):
Private? Vehicle.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
Okay, well is your car?
Speaker 4 (10:07):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:07):
I just okay, So you owned your.
Speaker 1 (10:09):
Car to someone who happened to be an employee, but
it had nothing to do with.
Speaker 2 (10:14):
Business, right, correct?
Speaker 5 (10:16):
Correct?
Speaker 2 (10:16):
Okay, all right, moving on.
Speaker 6 (10:18):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (10:19):
So then he's in his neighborhood on his way back
to work in the morning, not on the clock, and
there's morning doing a windshield and this woman is jaywalking
and he hits her and she dies.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Ooh yeah.
Speaker 4 (10:34):
So just wondering. My question about this whole thing is
where do you see me being liable for any of this?
Speaker 1 (10:45):
Okay, that's a good question. By the way, I don't
see much liability there. I mean, you're the registered owner,
so I think a fifteen thousand dollars is you're a limit. Now,
when someone dies, I guarantee you the lawyer is going
to go after everything your business.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
You personally doesn't mean you're going to be liable.
Speaker 1 (11:03):
It's just they try to grab everything because the damages
are pretty substantial. If you've heard me do the show before,
I always talk about the damages. The more someone is hurt,
the more severe someone is injured during the course of
an accident, the more serious the case is, and lawyers
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will pick that up and then start just scrambling for liability.
What insurance can we go to? So they'll go after
your business insurance, they'll go after your home insurance. They'll
certainly go after your car insurance. But that's the only
thing you're they're going to argue that you're liable. There'll
be depositions what happened, exactly what happened, What did he say?
Speaker 2 (11:46):
When did it happen? Did he represent something?
Speaker 1 (11:50):
Did you represent yourself as something other than the owner
of a business and the loan of your car?
Speaker 2 (11:56):
Personally?
Speaker 1 (11:56):
But it's he's the one that did the driving. So
you're you're gonna get hit with a whole lot of lawsuits.
I guarantee you. Well, you're gonna hit with a lawsuit.
But everything you want. Now, do you have car insurance?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
I do, but it's very minimal.
Speaker 1 (12:14):
Well that's the well, okay, okay, so you have fifteen
thirty you have minimal ALBA in California. All right, you
know what's you know what's gonna what? That poor victim
is going to get fifteen thousand dollars that's it. Yeah, yeah,
so you know, I mean, unforceusly, she got hit by
the wrong car the wrong person. Here's legal advice I'm
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gonna give you right now. If you are going to
be hit and be killed in a car accident, make
sure that whoever hits you is either an Amazon driver
a Coca Cola truck. That's very good. Uber is not
too bad. But you definitely want Amazon ups FedEx truck
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to nail you. Question about it, all right, Curtis, Hi, Curtis, welcome.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Hey, good morning, Bill.
Speaker 7 (13:08):
Yes, sir, I've got a realtor who's prevalent in our neighborhood,
who promotes people to rent their homes out to tournament
and mental care facilities where you have people who are
drug addicts and schizophrenics who get to come and go at.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
All hours and stuff like that.
Speaker 7 (13:27):
And I want to put signage up in my yard
and a couple of other neighbors are willing to do
the same to basically, just say, don't do business with
this person.
Speaker 2 (13:39):
No, you know, I don't want to Now, you don't
want to do that. You don't want to do that.
Speaker 1 (13:45):
What you can say is, this person is applying for
my home to be a rehab a rehab center, a
rehab unit. What you want to do is just the
absolute truth. You don't want to accuse anything of other
than what that person did. By the way, it's basically
the same thing. So let's say mister wonderful has decided
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to apply to make your home a rehab a drug
rehab unit, which is not that easy to do in
a private home. You can put up a sign and
said X has applied to make my house a rehab unit.
Speaker 2 (14:22):
That it's going to do the same thing.
Speaker 1 (14:24):
By the way, you know, the implication is there, and
so there's no defamation, there's no accusation. You're not telling
people don't do it with this guy with his interference
with contract, by the way, trying to get him not
to do a lawful business. But what you're saying is
this is what this guy is doing, and you want
the biggest sign you can possibly have that the city
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allows you to have, it'll do the same thing, and
therefore there is zero defamation defamation there, Okay, Bill.
Speaker 2 (14:54):
Yeah, Well click.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
What I was gonna do is I was just gonna
I was gonna email him and talk to him and
pretend as if I wanted to do the same my house.
Speaker 4 (15:00):
Get him.
Speaker 2 (15:01):
Yeah, you can do that. You can do. Yeah, you
can do that.
Speaker 7 (15:04):
Get him the list all the things that he will
do and how he promotes it.
Speaker 2 (15:07):
And he's sure you can tell you that.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
You say that and say, here is make and I
would put in an email, by the way, and you go,
here is the email that I received from him, and uh,
just make a poster out of it and put it
up and you'll be fine.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, Yeah, I mean that's the way I would do.
Speaker 1 (15:25):
You have to remember, the truth is an absolute defense,
uh to defamation, and so you want to no accusations.
Just here's the truth, and there's no place to go.
Now is he gonna Is he gonna suit you the defamation?
Speaker 2 (15:39):
Of course he is. But is he gonna go any
place with it? Of course not. This is Handle on
the Law.
Speaker 5 (15:47):
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If you want marginal legal advice eight hundred five to
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on the Law. Uh, here we go, let's try this.
Speaker 2 (16:13):
Hello, Rick, Welcome, good morning.
Speaker 8 (16:16):
I live in the state of Missouri, and I'd like
to know if there's a statue of limitation on fraud
and give you slight details.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
Okay, give me the slight details. First, how are you defauded?
Speaker 8 (16:26):
A certain bank and a major insurance company started making
unauthorized withdraws through a fictitious name.
Speaker 2 (16:35):
That wait, the hold on the bank did this.
Speaker 1 (16:41):
It was the bank that performed this fraud, not someone
else using your name or not some hacker, not some crook,
not some forger.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
The bank itself did this, right.
Speaker 8 (16:52):
The insurance company, a well known one, mate unauthorized withdraws
from this account out.
Speaker 1 (17:01):
Okay, so it's one of those auto pay and they
took out the money.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Okay, fair enough?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
And now what what's your question?
Speaker 8 (17:10):
My question is is that fraud? And is there a
statue of limitations on fraud?
Speaker 2 (17:15):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (17:16):
There is a statute. By the way, you're in Missouri.
Do you happen to know where I live? No, sir,
I live in California. Do you happen to know how
often I have practice law in Missouri?
Speaker 8 (17:29):
No, sir.
Speaker 1 (17:30):
Never do you happen to know how deep my legal
knowledge is about Missouri law?
Speaker 2 (17:37):
No, sir, not even one iota.
Speaker 1 (17:41):
Now let me tell you what the statute is in California.
It is three years both civil and criminal fraud. This
is a civil fraud case, if you will. So if
you're within three years, that's the good news. And let
me give you the bad news. That's assuming Missouri follows
California most states to do. They're about the same. And
that's not fraud. You have not been defrauded. What ends
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up happening, there's all kinds of mistakes being made. You
may have been screwed over, but you've been damaged to
the extent of money taken out wrongly by the bank
for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (18:16):
But that is not fraud.
Speaker 1 (18:17):
They you would have to prove that they intended to
do that to you.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
Something out there.
Speaker 8 (18:25):
I'm referring to the fraud against the insurance company, not
the bank.
Speaker 2 (18:29):
Okay, Well, let me ask you how much money were
you screwed out of?
Speaker 8 (18:32):
Several thousand dollars?
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Okay, So you're.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
Going to go now against the insurance company, and so
you're filing a lawsuit against the insurance company. Someone at
the insurance company intended to screw you over, and how
do you prove that? Well, is there a recording? HI
take the money and screw Rick. Is there an email?
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Hey, guys, take the money and screw Rick.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
That's not fraud. Those are damages, and I think that
would fly, But not fraud. Fraud is very difficult to prove,
by the way, not easy at all.
Speaker 2 (19:11):
Jack, Hello, Jack, Welcome, Yes, sir.
Speaker 3 (19:18):
Okay, I'm in California and my brother died in test Gate.
And I know that in California you can do it yourself, probate.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
You can also die yourself. You know that you can
die by yourself. You know that too, under the law.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Okay, Yeah, I just want to let you know.
Speaker 2 (19:38):
You know, I'm the legal expert. Okay.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
So he died in test date, which means which means
there is no will, there is no document, there is
no trust there is. He's basically out there by himself,
completely dead now, and the beneficiaries are looking at him going, hey,
we want our money. How much money did your brother leave?
By the way, how much was he worth when he died?
Speaker 3 (20:00):
The pub would probably cover maybe a quarter of a million.
Speaker 1 (20:04):
Okay, so that's the money, all right. How many beneficiaries? Well,
how many siblings? Well, any children, let me go that way,
any wife?
Speaker 2 (20:12):
More children?
Speaker 3 (20:14):
Really? Only three surviving family members.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
What is that?
Speaker 1 (20:19):
Family members can be fourth cousins, children.
Speaker 3 (20:23):
No children, no children, a hold on no.
Speaker 1 (20:28):
Wife, no children, Okay, siblings, brothers, sisters three three brothers
and sisters, three siblings. Okay, So you have three beneficiaries
who are equal equally entitled to the estate, which means
you have a quarter of a million dollars is going
to be split three ways.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
Okay, next question.
Speaker 3 (20:54):
Go ahead, Oh next, Well that's the question. What about this?
Do it yourself?
Speaker 2 (21:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (21:00):
No, not not for it, not for a court now,
not for a quarter million dollars. Jack, you know, get
a probate attorney. You're gonna have to file a probate
of intestacy. And that's why I asked you how much
money we're talking about? Not only am I incredibly nosy,
so I always want to know.
Speaker 2 (21:15):
But you know, if.
Speaker 1 (21:16):
It's thirty thousand, if it's forty thousand dollars, if it's
twenty thousand dollars, there's something called a summary pro probate,
which means you just fill out a little paperwork and
it's done.
Speaker 2 (21:26):
I mean, this is a full blown probate, and.
Speaker 1 (21:29):
So it's going to cost you know, a few thousand dollars,
of which the estate will pay for. Okay, so whoever
fronts the money to the lawyer, the lawyer might wait
because there's money there. So that's how you want to
do it. Just yeah, get yourself, go ahead.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
Well I've heard about probate attorneys that they wanted they
can stretch this thing out.
Speaker 1 (21:51):
Really yeah, yeah, yeah you want Yeah, Well no not really.
I mean yeah, some do, but you know that's any
anybody you got to karmec that can stretch the repair.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
You have a plumber that can.
Speaker 1 (22:03):
Say, oh my god, you need extra plumbing that happens
across the board.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
And so yeah, you want to go. And you don't
want to do a little.
Speaker 1 (22:10):
Bit of research, which means you want to do see
some reviews. You want to talk to someone who has
used a probate attorney. Not the dead person because they're
difficult to talk to, but the people who have filed
for probate and have a good experience with a probate attorney.
That's where you want to go. Uh, this is handle
(22:31):
on the law. Can't f I I am a six
forty bill handle here ye he is a Saturday morning
legal shows here eight hundred five two zero one five
three four eight hundred five two zero one five three
four Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (22:46):
More handle on the law.
Speaker 1 (22:48):
Michael, Hello, Michael, Yeah, Bill, Now, Michael, I'm assuming there's
something wrong with your voice medically right?
Speaker 5 (22:58):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (22:59):
I oh my god, I'm sorry. Uh did they like
remove your voice box kind of thing?
Speaker 5 (23:10):
I have a couple of things going on.
Speaker 2 (23:14):
Wow cancer anyways, Yeah, okay.
Speaker 5 (23:20):
I was writing a scooter and I crossed the intersection
of South Street and Studio Bigger and this guy came
from the northbound. You know, he's he made a right
right in front of, like behind me, and clipped me,
and I went fine. He pulled over. I talked to
him briefly. I feeled thing was like writing, you know,
almost in the traffic that he pulled over. He staged information.
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I got my scooter and my shop around, hobble over
into the parking my shell gapation and uh I turned around.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
He was gone, okay, okay, uh, let me ask you this.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
Did you get his information at all? Did you get now?
Speaker 1 (24:02):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (24:02):
Nothing? You get his number? Nothing? Yeah, that's a problem.
Speaker 1 (24:09):
Well, uh, I mean you can subpoena those cameras. You
can ask for the cameras, and you know how badly
were you hurt?
Speaker 8 (24:18):
That bad?
Speaker 5 (24:20):
My back, I mean my lower back is I can
barely walk.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Okay, so that's soft tissue, no broken bones or anything.
Speaker 5 (24:26):
Right, there's no one on my arm not.
Speaker 1 (24:33):
Uh Okay, here's the problem. You're gonna have to track
him down.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:39):
And it's not easy to track someone down where there's
no information. You don't have a driver's uh. Uh, a
license plate, you don't have anything. All you're doing is
asking for cameras you go around the neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
And the problem is there really isn't enough injury for you,
h because you got clipped and you have a not
on your arm and you've got back injuries. It doesn't matter.
It doesn't matter if you've gone flying. You can have
flying three hundred feet. You know, you can pretend you're
a flying squirrel for all that matters. Yeah, finding someone.
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Do you have auto insurance by any chance?
Speaker 5 (25:19):
No idea?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Because you got your okay, you got some uninsured motorists.
If you have comprehensive on your auto insurance. This is
a tough one, it really is, because I don't even
know if it's worth the you know, going at it
because your injuries just aren't that great.
Speaker 2 (25:37):
I mean, it's I hate to say that.
Speaker 1 (25:39):
I mean, you've got bigger problems than that, much bigger problems,
so I I yeah, yeah, yeah, well yeah, I mean
I'd be more concerned a five hour chemo treatment.
Speaker 2 (25:53):
Wow, that's no fun at all. Yeah. I don't even
know what to say. I really don't. Ron, Hi, Ron, welcome.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
Yeah, Hi Bill. I got a question for you. Last
two years, I've lived in a rented a house with
three bathrooms. The upstairs bathroom is leaking sewer into the kitchen.
We had to turn it off. We had the manager
to fix it. He hasn't. It's been up there for
you know, months and months, and all.
Speaker 1 (26:25):
The months you've been living there, paying your rent for
months and months with the upstairs bathroom leaking sewage into
your kitchen, the kitchen sync.
Speaker 2 (26:36):
I'm assuming right. And how long has this been there?
How long has this been going on? Run?
Speaker 9 (26:41):
About two years?
Speaker 1 (26:42):
Two years you've allowed this happened. What do you do
with the kitchen sink? I mean, do you wash your Jessey?
Speaker 9 (26:46):
Isn't there?
Speaker 2 (26:47):
Do you use it?
Speaker 9 (26:48):
It leaks on the floor by the refuserator Okay, got it.
But the question is the question is do I have
a case about all the rent paying on the toilet upstairs?
Speaker 1 (26:58):
We had to turn it off because you know what,
I well, not only do you have a case you
don't have to pay rent, you don't have to pay rent. No,
you don't pay rent, and you tell him you fix
this and I'm not going to pay rent until you
fix it.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Well, that is that is a problem.
Speaker 9 (27:18):
We paid rent for the whole house, we couldn't.
Speaker 1 (27:20):
Yeah, well no, but just the sewage. No, the sewage
part is enough. The sewage part is enough because that
gets dangerous stuff. I mean, you're talking about back to
even better, even better. So no, you just stop paying rent.
He may what he may do is a file lawsuit
against you for unlawful detainer that you're not paying your rent.
Speaker 2 (27:42):
Throw you out.
Speaker 1 (27:43):
You're gonna win that case. Let me tell you, you're
going to win that case. And I would even go further. Yeah, okay,
I would even go further than that, and that is
sue for the back rent. But yeah, the back rent.
I mean, you can't defend yourself based on stupid That
doesn't work. I don't even know if you can get
back rent or not. Have no idea, right, Steven Hi.
Speaker 6 (28:07):
Stephen, Oh, I'm in a hell of a mess. I
live out in the rural area of twenty nine Palms.
I've been living there forty one years and all I
have is a tough shed, a little trailer, and a
water tank. I'm off grid and code enforcement has been
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finding me for almost three years now, and I just
I'm seventy three years old and I just can't keep
up with these fines. And they said the next step,
you're going to go to administrative court.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
And I go.
Speaker 6 (28:38):
I have no junk on here, no abandoned cars, it's
nothing like that. And I got ten acres. I'm out
of the water district. They want me to be hooked
up for water. I have it hauled in. I have
been for forty one years. So I don't know what's
going to happen in administrative.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
Court when I go, how old are you?
Speaker 6 (28:57):
I'm seventy three, seventy three.
Speaker 2 (28:59):
I'm about toy say yeah, you can just wait a
couple more years. You don't be dead. You have to
wait about administrative hearing.
Speaker 1 (29:05):
What I would do, well, first of all, I don't
know what the code is specifically, but forcing you to
hook up to water, and you have effectively a vacant
piece of land that no one lives on there.
Speaker 2 (29:19):
Correct, it's basically just a storage area. Do I have
that right?
Speaker 5 (29:24):
Well?
Speaker 6 (29:24):
No, I've lived there for forty one.
Speaker 2 (29:26):
Okay, you've lived there, so there's a home on there.
Speaker 6 (29:30):
No, not a legal one. That's my problem.
Speaker 1 (29:33):
Yeah. Yeah they may, yeah, yeah they They can come
in and you're going to have an administrative hearing and
you're probably gonna lose, and you just keep on appealing it.
And the way I see it is, I think you're
gonna get screwed because the law is the law. I mean,
here's the enforcement code. You live on a piece of property,
you have to hook up to the city facilities. The
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fact you've been not doing it for forty one years.
One of your argum says, I'm grandfathered in. Are you
a grandfather by any chance?
Speaker 6 (30:06):
Yes? I am.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
See there you go, that's your argument.
Speaker 1 (30:09):
I'm grandfathered in because I'm a grandfather.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
See I think that works. That would work with me.
Speaker 1 (30:18):
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have bad breath. I'm sorry, because you don't have morning breath.
Because you never wake up in the morning because you
don't sleep, you never drink coffee, so clearly you don't
have coffee breath. Certainly, onions, garlic, anything that causes bad
breath you never eat. So you don't have to listen
to this. Now the rest of us, well, yeah, so
(30:41):
what do we do when we have bad breath? Let
me brush our teeth of course in the morning, etc.
And then during the day, if you know you're starting
to smell like a rhino in heat, the wrong end
of a rhino and heat, you pop a breath mint
and that takes care of the bad breath in your
mouth for a period of time, But it doesn't take
care of the problems in your stomach because you swallow
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the food and it churns and burns with all the
stomach acids, and that can cause bad breath can start there,
can stay there.
Speaker 2 (31:09):
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