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January 3, 2026 • 35 mins

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to kf I AM six forty the Bill
Handles show on demand on the iHeartRadio app. This is
Handle on the Law Marginal legal advice, where I Bill
Handle tell you, whatever your name is, you have absolutely
no case. And I love it when I can tell
you that. And occasionally you do have a case, and

(00:22):
I tell you you do have a case.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
I want you to point something out.

Speaker 1 (00:25):
Whenever I tell you you have a case, Notice that
my energy level drops substantially.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Yeah, you have a case.

Speaker 1 (00:33):
And whenever you don't, I get pretty excited. You're an idiot.
Come on, really, you've just hit four levels of idiocy.
And do you know you're an idiot? I mean, those
are my fun phone calls. So there we go, lots
and lots of fun. Hello Art, welcome to Handle on

(00:53):
the Law.

Speaker 3 (00:54):
Yeah, thanks for taking my call today. Sure, I have
this problem where I hired a plumber two years ago
came to my house to repair replaced my septic tank
in my front yard and his big diggers that dug
the hole. He hit the Southern California gas line pipe.

Speaker 2 (01:12):
Mmm, that's good.

Speaker 3 (01:13):
And so he made a call emergency call to them
and they came out and they were only here for
a couple hours, but they spiced the piece back together
and then everything worked fine. So then two years later
I get this letter from a lawyer office stating they're
representing the gas company and I owe five thousand for

(01:36):
the damages. So that pipe when the call was made
by the plumber and he's born.

Speaker 2 (01:41):
Yeah, no, I understand.

Speaker 1 (01:43):
I'm just curious before I get into it on the
five thousand dollars part, what exactly happened?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
Was it just the line had to be replaced?

Speaker 3 (01:55):
He was just spliced back together, yes, that is?

Speaker 2 (01:58):
And how much and how much digging that they did?
They have to do.

Speaker 3 (02:02):
The dickens, They didn't have to do any because my
plumber had already dug the hole.

Speaker 1 (02:07):
All right, he's got it, okay, So here he is,
here's the exert and as you said, he called and
he's the one that caused it to.

Speaker 2 (02:16):
Whatever damage.

Speaker 1 (02:17):
So you just hand over the five thousand dollars complaint
or demand him and go here. You you deal with
the gas company and you argue with the.

Speaker 2 (02:26):
Gas company as to where it's five thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (02:29):
What I emailed my letter to him, and he said
it's an exorbent in amount, and he won't it is.

Speaker 2 (02:36):
He's right, he's right, it is an exorbitant amount.

Speaker 1 (02:39):
And you say, you get to argue that because it's
not my issue.

Speaker 3 (02:46):
Can't the lawyers who are coming after me just taking
the small claims court on this.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Well, first of all, no, no, because they don't have
a contract with the plumber. It's on your property and
so you are the homeowner and they're not going to
lawyers don't go after small claims, they're not even allowed
in small claim scorre.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Turn it over to him and he it's his issue.

Speaker 1 (03:07):
He's in a better position to argue with the gas company,
and so let him argue that it's exorbitant. And if
he doesn't want to, then you tell him, well, here's
what's going to happen. The gas company is probably going
to sue me, and I'm going to counterclaim and sue you,
and you're still going to be in a position to
defend the issue.

Speaker 2 (03:27):
So call him up.

Speaker 4 (03:31):
Ye.

Speaker 3 (03:31):
In my letter from the lawyers, they wanted my house
insurance for this liability.

Speaker 2 (03:37):
You can't.

Speaker 1 (03:38):
You can argue that, and you turn it over to
your home insurance because because it's easy for the gas
company instead of dealing with was it exorbitant? Was it
not exorbitant? And you can turn it over to your
insurance company, but you're responsible for the deductible, and so
he's probably far more than the deductible. So let's say

(03:59):
the negotiate and they think it's one thousand dollars and
you're deductible it's one thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Then you get to pay one thousand dollars.

Speaker 1 (04:08):
So what I would do again is just give it
to the plumber and say you've got to deal with
these people because it's not a big deal. They're wanting
a big deal, and we don't want a god awful
legal mess because that's what's.

Speaker 2 (04:21):
Going to happen.

Speaker 1 (04:22):
And the real downside, and here's what's probably going to happen,
is they're going to shut off the gas because you
owe this bill. Really yeah, and then at that moment,
you sue for the five thousand dollars, or you sue
for the five thousand dollars now because you owe the
money and it's his fault, and go to small claims court. Okay,

(04:43):
those are your choices. I would probably do that, Just
turn right around and say you figure it out and
if not, I'm suing you for this bill. And then
he can argue it is exorbitant. And you say that
that's what they sent me, that's the bill.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well, let's purposive one thousand dollars bond that the plumber.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Has, that's the purpose for it.

Speaker 1 (05:04):
But but but but it's for massive damage usually and
he's not gonna put in for his bond, and you
can put in for it. But I think way before
any bond is paid, you're gonna they're gonna talk about.

Speaker 2 (05:18):
What what's going on here? M Manuel? Hello? Manuel, Yes,
you were taking my call. Sure?

Speaker 5 (05:33):
Question here.

Speaker 6 (05:34):
I was sixty eight married once that divores hate my
wife off to the house. The house is under my name.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 6 (05:46):
That's okay. Uh, that's about years later, you got remarried again,
purchased another house with my new wife. Uh, that's under
both of our names. Okay, just recently separated it.

Speaker 1 (06:00):
M HM.

Speaker 6 (06:00):
Spoke one time about divorce.

Speaker 5 (06:02):
M Hm.

Speaker 6 (06:03):
I question, it is is my house face that I
preached before I met her?

Speaker 4 (06:08):
No?

Speaker 1 (06:09):
Because you because what it doesn't matter if you purchased
it before you met her. Once you put her name
on it. Manuel, both of you own that house. Is
it in both your names?

Speaker 2 (06:19):
That house?

Speaker 6 (06:20):
No? No, not the first one. Not the first one.

Speaker 2 (06:22):
Well, the first one you sold, right.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
That's what that's mine?

Speaker 2 (06:27):
Okay, that's yours. Okay, So we're talking about house number two.

Speaker 1 (06:29):
You buy a house number two while you're divorced, you
get married, and then you take a house that you own,
this is house number two, and then you put yours
and your new wife's name on title. Correct, No I
did not. Okay, you still own the house? Yes, I
do in your name?

Speaker 4 (06:48):
My name?

Speaker 2 (06:49):
Okay, what's your question?

Speaker 6 (06:52):
The second house? That's what about it? My names?

Speaker 2 (06:55):
Well, that's what I asked. Is it in both the
second house is in both of your names?

Speaker 6 (07:01):
What's the names?

Speaker 2 (07:02):
Okay? So what's your question?

Speaker 6 (07:06):
You I have to sell it.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
No, you don't have to sell it.

Speaker 1 (07:10):
Now, she can make you sell it, and you can
force her to sell it. It takes both of you
to make any decision as to selling or keeping the house.
And if you cannot make a decision, you can do
something called a partition, where one of you asks the
court for permission to sell the property and the person

(07:34):
who doesn't want to sell.

Speaker 2 (07:35):
It has to sell it. So if you want to.

Speaker 1 (07:40):
Sell it, and she says, though, you file the partition
action if you don't want to sell it, and she does,
she files the partition.

Speaker 2 (07:50):
Does that answer your question? Okay, all right, good for everybody.
This is handle on the law.

Speaker 1 (08:00):
This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell you have absolutely no case.

Speaker 2 (08:09):
Steve, welcome to handle on the law.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Hi, Bill, My wife and I we moved in her
homeless veteran brother with us about seven years ago, and
about four years ago he was told that he had
throws the liver, and so he quit smoking and drinking

(08:36):
and he last another They had game a year live
and he lasted another four years. But he came into
the living room and was spitting up blood, and so
we called nine one one. We weren't sure exactly what
was going on when we started, when he first came in,
and the fireman came down and they were monitoring him

(09:00):
and his blood push was going between one ten and
two ten, and in the meantime, my wife was calling
the Veterans UH to see if they could send an
ambulance out, and the fireman said that he shouldn't. We
should take the veterans told us to take him to
the nearest hospital.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (09:23):
And so we brought him out and now he's he
has Medicare, but they're billing us for it.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Wouldn't bill you for what the ambulance? Yeah, yeah, I
don't worry about it.

Speaker 2 (09:36):
It's not you. The service wasn't for you, it was
for him. They have to bill him.

Speaker 4 (09:40):
Well, but my wife made the call.

Speaker 2 (09:43):
It doesn't matter who makes the call. It doesn't matter
who makes the call. That's his issue.

Speaker 4 (09:47):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (09:47):
And if he's passed away, that's there out of luck.
Let him go after your estate.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
So let me so this. I have a neighbor.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
I see my neighbor walking out the driveway gets hit
by a car. I called the ambulance. I'm responsible for
the ambulance ride.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Yeah, well they're playing it that way.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Well no, you say no. No, you say no just
because we called.

Speaker 1 (10:08):
And I would say that that means no one's ever
going to call if they're responsible. No, unless you signed
a document of responsibility.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Unless it was was for medical care for him. She
signed and uh, he had a d n R. He
wound up passing away.

Speaker 1 (10:27):
Yeah, no, I understand, but I think calling the ambulance
she is Okay, she can do it.

Speaker 2 (10:32):
She's not responsible. I wouldn't worry about it. David, Is
it who's contacting you to say I want the.

Speaker 4 (10:37):
Money the ambulance service?

Speaker 1 (10:40):
Just say no, you guys figure it out. I mean,
they're just trying to get their money someplace.

Speaker 4 (10:44):
To them to his he's he has, he has wealth care,
so we we okay.

Speaker 1 (10:48):
And then they're saying no, they want it from you. Yeah, yeah,
tell them we'll see you in court.

Speaker 4 (10:55):
That's yeah, I have time. I'm retired.

Speaker 2 (10:57):
Yeah, just tell them we'll see you. And they're not
going to sue. They'll see you in court.

Speaker 1 (11:01):
And if they try to ding your credit, they've got
a world of hurt on their on their hands. The
only thing you ever have to worry about is dinging
your credit. That's the part that I hate is that
they go ahead and say uncollected and then you dispute it,
and then you then they're going to say we provided
the service. And all you have to say to the
credit bureau is we just called the ambulance.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
How are we responsible? And you should be okay.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Yeah, I see the Ambiance company going after money wherever
they can, you know, wherever they can William. Hello, welcome
to handle on the law.

Speaker 5 (11:37):
Thank you for taking ma call. Two lawyers involved her
first lawyer for a car accident of the card fault.
First lawyer founds a lawsuit but never shows up to
any court date. Insurance company got a dismissal. Send all
correspondents to the border professional responsibility. The first lawyer was
found negligent her second lawyer to sue the first lawyer

(11:58):
one and war a certain amount of money. The judge
tells the second lawyer that once the court costs was paid,
he could release the check within forty eight hours. What
it has been three months, and the second lawyer says
to be patient, and that is a process.

Speaker 1 (12:15):
There is a process, and when you're dealing with the courts,
it can take a while. It can take months. Now
here's my question. Your lawyer number two got the money
in his account, and after what was paid off court
costs were paid, do I have that right cost? Okay,

(12:36):
and then he's to release the money. Yeah, I don't
care how long the process has court costs. Unless it
takes months to get through the process of paying court costs,
I don't know the answer.

Speaker 2 (12:49):
So I think it's time to call your lawyer.

Speaker 7 (12:52):
And say, explain to me civil times.

Speaker 5 (12:55):
And he's keep giving us be patient, be patient.

Speaker 1 (12:59):
Well you got to say, hey, you've got to tell
me what's going on, because obviously I have no problem
filing a claim with the state bar. You know I've
done that and I don't want to do that again.
You got to let me know exactly what happened on
what date, what correspondence.

Speaker 2 (13:19):
I want to see the file, every word.

Speaker 5 (13:22):
If he does not give us any explanation, what do
we do?

Speaker 1 (13:26):
Then you go again into the state bar. You make
a complaint, same thing, same thing. Yeah, two lawyers in
a row taking the state bar. Well, you know, uh,
you know my surprised. Uh, well, the chances of two
are pretty low. Renee, Hi, Renee, welcome to handle on

(13:47):
the law.

Speaker 7 (13:48):
Hello, Abell, I got arrested for a DV.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
What domestic violence?

Speaker 5 (13:56):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (13:58):
Congratulations?

Speaker 7 (13:59):
And her sister.

Speaker 5 (14:02):
Called the cops.

Speaker 6 (14:03):
There's no contact at all?

Speaker 1 (14:05):
Okay, well, hold on her sister being the person you
were accused of engaging in domestic domestic violence, the one
you theoretically attacked.

Speaker 7 (14:16):
Against my wife. So her sister actually called.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Oh okay, all right, got it, and.

Speaker 7 (14:21):
And they arrested, and they arrested me, and I since
got a letter from the district attorney saying that they
had no intent on filing criminal charges.

Speaker 2 (14:31):
They had no drop Okay, so they were dropping it.

Speaker 1 (14:34):
You know, if your wife said, you know, that's just
not true it you know it happened. So they dropped
the case. They arrested you, and then they dropped the case.
How long were you in jail?

Speaker 7 (14:46):
Just for about maybe five or six hours? And I post,
I posted bail. I do have a court date in
thirty days.

Speaker 2 (14:53):
Yeah, no, they if they dropped the case, you don't
have a court date.

Speaker 5 (14:57):
If they dropped me.

Speaker 7 (14:58):
I'm on calendar, and I retained to I retained an attorney.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Well, I don't know if you yeah, I mean that
makes sense. I would too.

Speaker 1 (15:04):
But if you're called the DA's office or the city
Attorney's office, whoever filed it, and say do I have
to show up in court?

Speaker 2 (15:10):
The case has been dropped, or get a copy of
the letter. The case has been dropped, and.

Speaker 7 (15:16):
You could I still get a police report from Yeah?

Speaker 2 (15:20):
I think so. Yeah, I don't know why not.

Speaker 7 (15:22):
You see exactly what happened because I was dumbounded when
the cops came up to Mehe no, I.

Speaker 2 (15:26):
Would be too.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
So what's your question, Renee?

Speaker 7 (15:30):
My question is like, I want to get the police
report to see exactly what.

Speaker 2 (15:34):
Yeah, you can't happen, Yeah, you call tell you what happened.

Speaker 1 (15:37):
Is your sister in law lied, that's what happened and
told the cops that you had committed domestic violence and
based on what you tell me, made it up and
you were arrested and you had to hire a lawyer,
although you didn't have to. But that's that's not really
damages at least I don't think you can collect.

Speaker 7 (15:56):
Yeah, I don't care about that.

Speaker 1 (15:57):
And on top of that, yeah, on top of that,
you go after the sister in law for filing a
false police report. And if it turns out your wife
is willing to testify it never happened and she made
it up, that is a.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
False police report, and I think you can go after
her for that. Okay, great, yeah, yeah, yeah, oh no,
that's fine.

Speaker 5 (16:20):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (16:20):
I mean that's problem is that that the cops are
not reluctant about arresting people, not anymore. Domestic violence is
something that the authorities take very very seriously.

Speaker 2 (16:39):
So let's say you're married. Okay, this is a takeaway.

Speaker 1 (16:41):
Let's say you're married, and if you're a male, principally
a male.

Speaker 2 (16:45):
I mean, it happens the other way, but rarely.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
So let's say you're a male and your wife, let's
say takes trips, right, takes a spill and there's damage,
there's bruises. Man, if she calls the cops and say
my husband did this, you are in handcuffs instantly. And
then if it keeps ongoing where she says that, first
of all, you're gone, right, you divorce her. You don't

(17:09):
want to be anywhere near her. But you know it's
a tough one. The presumption is against you for sure.
This is Handle on the Law.

Speaker 8 (17:19):
You're listening to Bill Handle on Demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 1 (17:26):
Welcome back, Handle on the Law, Marginal Legal Advice.

Speaker 2 (17:31):
Nabs. Oh that's interesting, Nabs by Bill, that's a great name.
Where did you get the name? Nabs?

Speaker 9 (17:38):
It's a crazy Swedish name.

Speaker 2 (17:40):
Oh, I love it, I love it.

Speaker 1 (17:41):
I just you know what, the last few weeks I've
got names that I've never heard before.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
All Right, Nabs, what can I do for you?

Speaker 9 (17:48):
Six years ago, I purchased a large vintage cyberglass boat
from Boston, had it towed out here. And I do
restorations on vehicles and boats, and I hired a reputable
restoration specialist in southern La, LA and had him start

(18:09):
working on it six years ago. New new wiring, new home,
new fiberglass, just a complete restoration. About a year into
the restoration, he called me and he said, you know, hey,
your engines are backwards, you know, and and we need
to flip them. He said, the propellers will be spinning
the wrong direction. We need to flip the engines.

Speaker 2 (18:30):
So the cars, the boat's going to go backwards.

Speaker 9 (18:34):
Exactly. I've got all the proof in the world for
you come by it. So I said, well you're the
pro h let's do it. So we flipped the engines,
continued with the restoration for the next three and a
half four years. About a year and a half ago
it was fitting enough to drop it in the water.
We flopped this big vessel into the water, fired it up,

(18:58):
pushed it in the forward.

Speaker 2 (19:00):
The boat went all right, So he screwed up.

Speaker 1 (19:02):
It was originally okay, and then he undid that correct?

Speaker 9 (19:06):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (19:06):
Okay? All right? Quick question and so.

Speaker 9 (19:10):
Okay, go ahead.

Speaker 1 (19:11):
No, no, I'm sorry. If there's more to the story.
I thought it ended right there, but there's obviously more.

Speaker 9 (19:15):
Well, no, no, real quick he to rectify that. Rather
than flipping the engines, he said, I'll just switch the propellers.
But that does something kind of funny to the boat.
It makes the engine the propellers spin towards each other.

Speaker 1 (19:27):
Okay, yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't matter. You paid him
to do it, right, and he didn't. I mean, he
can try to mickey mouse it, but that doesn't work.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (19:36):
So did he charge you extra for flipping the engine?
Was that part of the did he ch other?

Speaker 2 (19:41):
Okay?

Speaker 9 (19:41):
About three thousand?

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Okay? And how much would it cost to flip the
engines back?

Speaker 9 (19:47):
I'm trying to get close on that, but it looks
like it's probably now with more things connected to the engines,
looks like it's gonna be three to five.

Speaker 2 (19:54):
Okay, there's your lawsuit, small claims court.

Speaker 9 (19:57):
But since it happened four years.

Speaker 2 (20:00):
It doesn't matter. It's it's part of the continent.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
It's part of the continuing Uh, it is part of
the continuing restoration. You can't argue, well, I did this
part of it two and a half years ago when
has passed the statute. Uh, but you got to assume
me on this part. I think you're fine on that.
It's all one restoration, Nabs. Okay, I think he's gonna
have a hard time. You just have to get that
bid that you're talking about. How do you reverse that?

(20:25):
And if you're talking three, three to five, maybe eight
thousand dollars, there's your small claimsuit against him.

Speaker 9 (20:31):
Yeah, exactly, there is.

Speaker 4 (20:32):
He got it.

Speaker 9 (20:33):
It's hard to get quotes from those guys because they're
most of the guys that do these restorations special the specialist, sir.

Speaker 6 (20:39):
You know, they're all about as old as the sun.

Speaker 1 (20:41):
Now, I'm sure, but Nabs, you have no choice. Without
a bid, you're done, exactly. Yeah, so you've got to
do it. Doug, Hello, Doug, Welcome, Hi Bill.

Speaker 4 (20:54):
Bill.

Speaker 10 (20:54):
I called you because I'm trying to help a friend
who purchased a condo and Orange count He very small place.
Hired of a contractor painter who was referred by a friend.
Turned out to be a bad referral, never had a contract, never,
everything was verbal. She gave him some cash five hundred

(21:14):
dollars to start, he destroyed what he did. It started
with her garage and her laundry room.

Speaker 6 (21:19):
She did not do the inside of the house.

Speaker 10 (21:21):
Long story short, he screwed up everything he did, even
painted walled inside the house, which she didn't want him
to touch. They were nice anyways, he filed. He just recently,
about four weeks after the fact, put a lien on
a preliminary lean notice on her door, and after he
crawled over a locked gate standing he showed him two

(21:43):
thousand dollars. And first of all, she hadn't know him
two thousand dollars. He didn't do any work, and what
he did he screwed up. So when I was my
experience in construction, there's twenty day preliminary lean notices.

Speaker 6 (21:57):
At least there used to be.

Speaker 1 (21:58):
Yeah, I think days. But it doesn't even matter. Matter,
It doesn't matter in this case. First of all, is
he licensed.

Speaker 10 (22:04):
Well, he didn't give her a card or a letter head.

Speaker 7 (22:06):
With doesn't matter.

Speaker 10 (22:07):
Is he licensed he claims that he is.

Speaker 1 (22:10):
Okay, you can look that up. You can look it
up under the contractor's license.

Speaker 10 (22:14):
I did look it up, CSLB. I looked it up.

Speaker 1 (22:16):
There's a license, Okay, So he's got a license, so
a couple of things. It's over if it's what has
to be a written contract, so he's out of luck anyway.
You can't just have a verbal contract and over five
hundred dollars. It has to I think you have to
be licensed over five hundred dollars. So you've got a
verbal contract which is really not a contract. He's filed

(22:37):
a preliminary notice, which he may not be entitled to file,
and it may need may mean absolutely nothing, Doug, I
could file a preliminary notice, okay, because now you can
bond to the lian although there's no lian yet.

Speaker 2 (22:54):
It's just a preliminary notice.

Speaker 10 (22:56):
I'm trying to eliminate a lian such another group ORLEAN.

Speaker 2 (23:00):
It's not a LEAN, it's a preliminary notice.

Speaker 10 (23:03):
I know he has thirty days to file.

Speaker 1 (23:05):
Right so so preliminary notice means nothing until he's actually
file the LEAN. Now, once he's filed the LEAN, then
you have to bond to the LEAN so it's removed,
and then you sue his ass off.

Speaker 10 (23:22):
Okay, that's what I told her, because he then you're.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
Right, Yeah, it doesn't matter, it doesn't matter.

Speaker 9 (23:27):
Have her.

Speaker 1 (23:29):
You know, you seem to know what you're doing. So Doug,
have the guy call you, have her say called Doug.
He's not my lawyer. That's really important. He's not giving
me legal advice. What he's done is he's telling you.
He's just my messenger to tell you what's going on.
But I don't want you to talk to anybody but Doug.
And then you talked to him. Okay, I'll yeah, just

(23:50):
make damn sure. But Doug, just make damn sure you
don't play it giving legal advice if you're not a lawyer.

Speaker 10 (23:57):
No, I don't do that.

Speaker 2 (23:58):
Okay, No, that's good.

Speaker 1 (23:59):
Although the advice you're giving is far better than anything
I could give. I just want to let you know that.
But I happen to have a license. I don't know how,
but you have to just be very careful. Other than that,
you know your stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:13):
You're fine.

Speaker 7 (24:14):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
I'd have you talked to for me. So you're good.

Speaker 10 (24:18):
Am I on the air right now?

Speaker 2 (24:19):
You are?

Speaker 10 (24:20):
Okay? Because I'm writing a book. I'm not going to
tell you the book yet, but anyway someday I'll call
you off.

Speaker 2 (24:24):
Yeah, please, you very important.

Speaker 1 (24:26):
Please you okay, Yeah, it's you know, there's a whole
world to that, and I've talked about that many times.

Speaker 8 (24:36):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty, and this.

Speaker 1 (24:43):
Is KFI AM six forty Go Handle here on a
Saturday morning. We're obviously interrupting the legal show because a
few minutes ago, there was a press conference in which
the president and Pete Head says the department I headed,
the Department of Defense, and Marco Rubio, who is our
Secretary of State, as well as the chairman of the

(25:05):
Joint chiefs of Staff coming from the Air Force, by
the way, Dan Cain, and the announcement was that the
United States did, in fact invade Venezuela, attacked Venezuela, not
so much as the country, but going specifically after Nicholas Maduro,
the president of Venezuela, who the United States does not

(25:25):
recognized as the president, and many people around the world,
many countries do not recognize him as the president because
during the last election in which he absolutely lost, I mean,
there is no issue. What he did is denounced the election,
invalidate the election, and proclaim himself for the continuing president
of Venezuela. The attack was made against Maduro because of

(25:49):
the allegation that Maduro was in bed with the cartels
and moving massive amounts of drugs into the United States
and being complicit with it. I believe and most people
most countries believe that that allegation is absolutely true.

Speaker 2 (26:06):
That Maduro is completely corrupt.

Speaker 1 (26:09):
He is at the behest of the cartels, and he's
about as corrupt a president as any president is throughout
the world. So the United States, the president had worn
our president had worn a Maduro again and again and
was negotiations and to the point that Marco Rubio said,

(26:31):
get out of Dodge, you know, just get out of office.
We'll let you leave and you can live anywhere you want.
And as Rubio said, and just be happy. And instead
Maduro decided that he was going to not so much
fight the United States, but didn't think the United States
was going to invite invade Venezuela. And Marco Rubio in

(26:53):
a factual statement, by the way, I mean, there's no
question that I think Rubio was right. You know, when
this president says thing, this president means something. As we
know domestically, the president is stretching the powers of the presidency.
And the argument is going to be and believe me,

(27:13):
there's going to be plenty of argument against what Trump
did is domestically here those that are detractors of Trump,
and I even think those that are in favor of
the Trump administration can argue that the President went beyond
what his powers are. Well, his argument is going to
be an under Article two of the Constitution, which sets

(27:34):
up the presidency, he has the powers because the Constitution
says that he enforces the laws, and we know that
he can invade if there is a war, he can
invade if the security of the United States is at risk,
and that is what he is going to argue, that
the very security of our country is at risk, and

(27:56):
therefore he was legitimately able to go in and and
had the legal bases going in and kidnapping Madua. And
it was a straight out kidnapping. It was an attack
in the country. As the Joint Chairman said, Dan Caine,
there were twenty two bases involved, one hundred and fifty aircraft.

(28:17):
There was an attack of extraordinary detail that been planned
for months and months and came off flawlessly. Not one
American life was lost. And when you talk about the
special Forces, and as the President has said, as this.
Dan Caine has said that there probably is no country

(28:37):
in the world that was able to pull this off.
I agree with that because the training that we do,
and then countries all over have special forces. I don't
think there's a world leader out there that would have
done this and would have done.

Speaker 2 (28:49):
This as well.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Now, whether it was legal or not, that's a different issue,
and there are parts of it that are legal. And
now I'm going to spend a couple of minutes. You're
going to hear throughout the day the various facts of
this and this press conference, the leaders, the President and
Dan Caine and Marco Rubio and Pete Hegsith talked in details,

(29:12):
spoke in details about what happened and physically what happened
and how it was all playing, it was all planned,
and spent a lot of time talking about how great
the United States was and okay, I mean, we get that,
and then the President is part of his comments went
spinning off into politics about what a great guy he

(29:34):
is and how he saved the city of Los Angeles
and Chicago which were falling apart, and he and they
would have been cities that would have functioned non non
functions as cities until he came in and saved them.
So that was the and of course the anti Joe
Biden speech, which he does time and time again. But

(29:55):
moving away from that, they spent a long time talking
about specifically what happened. The President described nor Jega as
a criminal I agree, as a non legitimate president of Venezuela.

Speaker 2 (30:14):
I agree with that.

Speaker 1 (30:16):
And one of the big issues is was there going
to be regime change? And the president had sort of
not said much about it. He played with that over
the last few months, and while that was happening, he
brought in massive forces, massive military forces off the coast
of Venezuela and the Caribbean, and something was afoot. And

(30:39):
on top of that, the president said he didn't I
don't know if I'm going to put boots on the ground.

Speaker 2 (30:44):
Maybe yes, maybe no.

Speaker 1 (30:46):
Well it turned out that he did, and the discussion
was there going to be regime change? Yes, there is
regime change. Maduro is now on a ship on the
way to New York to be tried in the United
States for complicity and drug running and drug dealing with

(31:06):
the cartels.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
So he is going to be tried.

Speaker 1 (31:08):
He and his wife and some thirteen other defendants are
going to be tried in the United States. So now
there's a vacuum in Venezuela. The vice president was just
sworn in as the president. The problem is this woman
was handpicked by Maduro and is part of what Maduro's

(31:28):
government was about. And according to the president, again I
believe this that she said almost immediately to the president,
I'll do whatever you want. I think there is real
fear that the United States can come in almost at
its will and pick up whoever it wants in the
country of Venezuela. That's the kind of might that we have.

(31:51):
So the bottom line is will there be regime change?
There is regime change. The government of Venezuela is no longer.
And the president was asked, then, what's going to happen
if the president has been if the president of Venezuela
has been elected and the United States doesn't recognize that election,

(32:15):
So what's going on? There's a vacuum in the country Venezuela.
So the answer that the President gave and this is
going to happen, there's no doubt, is we the United States,
We're going to have to take over the country of Venezuela.
We will be governing the country of Venezuela. And let
me tell you, the rest of the world is reeling

(32:35):
on this one. Most of the countries, even our allies,
are going berserk because this is engaging and entering and
invading a foreign country to pick up, even if it's
illegitimate presidency, to literally kidnap the president, the putative president

(32:58):
of Venezuela and bring in the United States for justice.
And now this is in light of international law or
real questionable? Does the administration have the right to do this?
Is it justified under law to do this? How about
due process? Because once the president of Venezuela, the ex

(33:18):
president at the putaty of the non existent president Marco,
I mean Nicholas Maduro, comes in the United States, he
is entitled to due process. He will have a defense attorney.
There may or may not be a trial, depending on
whether he cuts a deal or not. I think he
will at some point and he will be tried. And
he's entitled to the same due process that you or

(33:38):
I have. And how about this kidnapping someone to bring
him in the United States. Is that a violation of
criminal law? Is that a violation of our laws? Well,
I'm going to after the break, I'm going to come
back and go through that, because that is really interesting
stuff and you're not going to be hearing that anywhere

(34:00):
news today. I'm going to give you some facts about
that are absolutely fascinating, because of course I'm a history
night and I want to go back and talk about
the legal basis of bringing him in the country. So
we now have regime change in Venezuela. The United States
will in fact run the country of Venezuela, will be
putting military in there, and part and parcel of all this,

(34:24):
it was not only the drug running. It was not
only the drug issue that Madua is heavily involved with,
but it's also the oil. And the president said that
because Venezuela has more oil underneath its ground off off.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
Shore than any country in the world.

Speaker 1 (34:42):
It has the biggest oil reserves on the planet, and
it's not using them because of the Maduro administration, because
of the Chavez, the previous president prior to Maduro, because
that oil infrastructure has collapsed. The amount of oil that
is being pumped out of Venezuela is twenty percent of

(35:03):
what it was before Chavis took over. It's dropped by
eighty percent, and I'll talk about all of that when
we come back after the break.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
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