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You're listening to k I AM six forty the Bill
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FFI AM six forty.
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Bill Handle Here on a Saturday morning.
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One more hour to go before the end of the show,
and I'll still be taking questions after the show off
the air.
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And I'll explain how I do that later on.
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In the meantime, it's top of the hour, so lines
are always open at the top of the hour. Eight
hundred five two zero one five three four eight hundred
five two.
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Zero one five three four.
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This is Handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell.
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You you have absolutely no case. Hopefully.
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La County pays a fortune in settlement settlements every single year,
and it's getting.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Worse and worse. There is a juvenile.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Hall run by the County of La It's called Los
Pudrino's Juvenile Hall, and it's run by the Probation Department,
and it has been investigated over and over again, violation
after violation. Not only the way it's maintained rats and
you know, the food is horrible, but it's a cesspool
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of drug use and it's just not a good place.
And so the La County County of La has agreed
to pay two point seven million dollars to one teenager.
And you wonder, how does a teenager get two point
seven million dollars when you've got a whole slew of violations.
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Wouldn't everybody be able to sue? Well, this one's a
little bit different because he was beat senselessly at that
juvenile hall.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And video and this is video of a December twenty
twenty three.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Beating, showed Jose Ribas Bardias, who was sixteen years old,
being pummeled by six other juveniles at the juvenile hall.
Probation officers standing by. They're looking at this. So each
kid attacked Rebus for a few seconds, and then they
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returned to breakfast. Two officers later identified as long term
probation officials were laughing and shaking hands and encouraging the brawl.
They're calling this gladiator fights, where the probation officers themselves
the guards not only just looked at these fights.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And ignored them, but were actively.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Encouraging them and betting on them gladiator fights.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The video was first reported by the La.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Times, and immediately a criminal investigation, of course ensued by
the State Attorney General's office. Later on, thirty probation officers
when investigated, and these two were actually tagged with allowing
and encouraging fights inside the County Juvenile Hall. And I
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have a couple of questions about this. Number One, everybody
knows there's video. Why in God's name would two probation
officers in the juvenile hall in a public space allow
the beating to take place, sit back and laugh and
shake hands? How stupid are they? How they get the job?
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And then is there no way to control it? Well, yeah,
you get probation officers in there that stop it, that
actually guard the juveniles. So here it is two point
seven million dollars and this is a settlement.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
La County puts away.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I don't know how many hundred millions of dollars to
settle cases every year, as does the City of Los Angeles,
as does the state of California.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And every year it beats that budget. Every year beats
the budget. Go crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Huh, Bonnie, Hello, Bonnie, welcome, Hi Bill.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I'm calling for a friend and i'd like your advice
on does she have a case? Do they have a case?
So here's the situation. She was making a left hand turn.
She had a yellow proceed with caution, type of light
going on. She proceeded with caution, and then all of
a sudden she heard a crash and a fourteen year
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old on a illegal street vehicle hit her rare passenger
right door. She didn't even see him. He was in
all black, vehicle was black. It was nighttime. It happened
this week, and she's she's not hurt, but she got
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out of her car. He was on the side of
the street with his friends moaning. So she had cold
nine one one. He went to the hospital. She doesn't
know anything past that. Should she get a lawyer immediately?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, no, no, not no, no, I'll be she's gonna
get sued if that kid's banged up.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I mean that's a given. But no, she has insurance, right,
she has auto insurance.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yes, yes, Once, once she is contacted by the kid's
family or the kid's lawyer, whatever, she just turns it
over to the insurance company. They defend that's part. Yeah,
that's part of insurance, not just paying if you're a fault,
but defending you. And what will happen is the insurance
company will probably settle up with the kid, pay him
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a couple of thousand dollars or say it's not her
fault and say too bad.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
That happens all the time too. But no, she doesn't
get a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
She'll she will probably have a lawyer if any litigation starts.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
But that is the insurance company defending her. Jake, Hello, Jake, Hello, Jake,
Are you there?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Jake?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Jake?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
All right, something's going on there, so I'll put Jake
on hold. It's a problem that happens with these programs
and call ins. It's just been that way for years
and years. Don hi, don welcome.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Hi, Bill, dontnard here. My sister lives in a condominium
complex that allows smoking. One of her neighbors uses a
nozone generator to clear up the snow and the odor
of the smoke and the particles, and that is permeating
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through the building and poisoning other people. How do we
get her to stop?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay, when you say the building allows smoking, California law
does not allow smoking in any building. So we're talking
about within an apartment, correct, it's it's in it's in
the home, right.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
It's in a condominium complex. It's in Washington state.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Oh, got it? Okay, So it's not in California. Okay,
so smoking is allowed, I'm assuming by law. And at
the same time, you've got a facility says smoking as okay,
what are the symptoms of ozone poisoning?
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Well, in her case, it's rather severe because she's diagnosed
with pulmonary fibrosis.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Oh okay, So the doctor.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Damages the lungs.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Okay, fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And the doctor she's she has a medical opinion that
her uh, that her problem, her medical problem is either
caused by or exacerbated by the ozone.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Correct exacerbated by yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And by the way, you need a medical opinion on that.
You can't just walk in and say that. So there
has to okay, good, Well, a couple of things. The
easiest way is there'll be a court order you go in,
especially if you have a bunch of people that are
being affected by the ozone. And by the way, California,
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just California, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
There's a limit.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I don't think California even allows THO zone filters anymore
in public places. But okay, And I don't know what
Washington obviously does. I guess is Washington allow ozone filters?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Yes, you do?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Okay, So it's walking into court and having a judge say, no, Ozone,
you're done because someone is hurt and she can sue
on top of that for the exacerbation of her pulmonary problems.
So what I'm going to suggest is all of you
who are affected, you all band together, and that way
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you'll split the attorney's us and just go in and
get it a file emotion and no judge will fail
to issue a court order. And then you have the
guy with you know, mister ozone has to decide is
you get to violate a court order or not.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
But that's where you first start.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And then there I would call the authorities, that is,
the city, the county to see if there's any violation
about what he's doing, maybe extending going beyond a certain
level of ozone, because there are levels that are allowed
and not allowed, So that's where I would go. That's
that's a little complicated, it's not fun, but that's ends
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up what happening.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
That happens. All right.
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Speaker 1 (11:13):
On the law. Hello, Jake, there we go, Jake, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Hey, hey Bill, I'm sorry, but that emergency fallen out
a line. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Question.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
My old landlord, we used to live in her house.
She has this eighty four transam, nice and clean, less
than seventy thousand miles, and then she finally sold the house.
She asked my neighbor to uh park it in his driveway,
and then she retired and went back to the Philippines.
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Every six months she comes back here and check on
the stuff. Now she wants to sell the car, but
my neighbor cannot sell it because they don't have the
pink slip because the owner was the ex husband is deceased.
So how can they sell the the car without the
pink slip or the way they could?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, they can't there, but there has to be a
way of doing it, because I've never had someone try
to sell me a forty year old car that somehow
only has seventy thousand miles on it. By the way,
a trans am that's forty years old with seventy thousand miles,
I'm assuming it's worth some money, Jake, am I right.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Yeah, it's clean, it's clean.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
It's well, I don't care if it's clean, but I mean,
is that considered.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I assume it's considered a collectible, and it's how much
you think it's worth.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I'm just curious, any idea.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
I'll be well, I'm probably thinking about maybe twenty thousand dollar.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Okay, so that's real money, all right.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So the bottom line is you cannot sell it without
a pink slip. However, you're not the only person that's
ever been in this position. So I am assuming you.
You go into the DMV and they're pretty good, you're
making you go online, make an appointment. You're not waiting
very long, and show up with a death certificate. She
shows up with a death certificate, and I think she
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can get title, and then title can transfer upon a sale.
So it's all about going to the DMV because they
have to have some process doing that.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Because this happens all the time. I just don't know
how it's done, so I don't know. All right, I
give that a shot. Okay, just go to the agency.
This is why I get paid the big bucks. Right, Oh, good,
good god? All right, Bob, Hello, Bob, welcome, Yeah, how
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you doing?
Speaker 8 (13:36):
But I have a real mess here. Basically, it's been
me and my mother for the past thirty years. That's all.
It wound up, and I have two siblings that were
pretty much out of the picture. They state did their
own thing and so on, and they suddenly just over
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the head of mother that she was in her nineties
and slowing down. And I guess what happened was she
got caught it really bad, and I took it to
the hospital and she was there for like two months.
She must have called them mouth she was there and
told them she was dying, and she was I had
it too. I suffered it out at home. But anyway,
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my prayers were an said. I did get her back,
And suddenly my siblings are in the picture a lot,
and I realized what they were up to. I did
have my mother's will and all, but I didn't have
other things. We were going to transfer the home, but
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they told us if we did it before I'm sixty five,
that the Texas would go through the roof or something.
Speaker 9 (14:51):
And said, well, okay, you know we're not going.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
There's not gone with a wing here. So what's the
bottom of what happened?
Speaker 5 (15:01):
And what.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Happened was I realized what they were.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Up to and what were they up to? What were
they up to?
Speaker 8 (15:11):
Well, they would snatch her when I wasn't here, and
I'm going crazy wondering where she was with what's going on.
They wouldn't they wouldn't take my calls. Okay, So what happened?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So what happened when they what happened when they snatched her?
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Well, she was always hurting, they care. She always wound
up with broken rooms and I think cushion.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
And all right, and I assuming you called Okay, did
you call the authorities? Did you call the police?
Speaker 8 (15:37):
Well, I filed missing persons when I found her missing.
I don't know where she was and.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
This is this is going all over the place, Bob,
I need some help here.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I know.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Okay, what happened? Okay? What did they do that?
Speaker 8 (15:49):
I get her back? And I said, that's the end
of that. They're not taking her anymore. And I knew
what they were up to. And my brother actually busted
in here and tried to kill me.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Okay, wow, but he obviously didn't kill you.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So we got we got to get to the end
of this because I only have three hours for this show. Bob,
I know, I know he was arrested and charged A right, Okay,
you're still dealing with the story.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
So what what do you want what I.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Came back from the hospital, she was gone again, and
I found out my sister had.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
Her and I couldn't get her back.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
And okay, got it?
Speaker 9 (16:28):
All right?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
This goes on. What is your question, Bob?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
They stuck her in a nursing home I planned, and
she died there. Okay, Now they're trying to they're trying
to take the home.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
He got it, all right, So how are they trying
to take the home?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Explain that to me?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Well, I guess, well, they had her.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
They made some garbage will up.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh, okay, got it. So they grabbed her. They made
up a will. She's in her nineties. They now owned
the property. All right, thank you for that.
Speaker 9 (16:55):
All right.
Speaker 1 (16:55):
That's page three. Have gone with the wind or, page
three hundred and fifty. All right.
Speaker 2 (17:00):
Bottom line is I got the real will, and I understand.
Now here's what you have to do is set aside
that will that they have, and that's going to be
easy to do based on the fact that it was
done in the nineties.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
The trick is finding an attorney.
Speaker 2 (17:19):
How much money are we talking about here the home
value and is it still around or did they sell
it and all the money is gone?
Speaker 8 (17:28):
Well, I'm still in the home.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
This is you know what You know, Bob, I'd love
to spend another forty five fifty eighty minutes doing this,
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Another half hour or so to go till the end
of the show, and then I'm still taking phone calls afterwards,
and I'll tell you about that I'm doing off the air,
which I do every Saturday.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Phone number.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
We have some lines open eight hundred five two zero
one five three four eight hundred five two zero one
five three four and that is the number.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And you'll get in pretty quickly actually, because we have
a few lines open. As they say, welcome back to
Handle on the Law.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Marginal Legal Advice Serena Hi, Serena, welcome.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Hello, I phone out of my pocket.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
That would be good.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
My question, the bottom line is is there a statue
of limitations on debts to the county like for a
land use permit. Do they have a statue to.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Apply to them like a normal debt.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Or are they a special circumstance?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Well, okay, explain what happened here. There was a land
use permit that was not paid.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
For correct by a tenant, a deadbeat tenant decades ago,
and now the county is coming after the landowner saying
that we need to pay it.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And how much? Yeah? How much are they asking for?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
A fifty thousand plus?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
All right? Fifty thousand plus? I yeah, it depends on
I mean, I'm assuming that the property is equivalent to
a lean and the rules are totally different. But if
this is decades and decades ago, you know what, there
has to be a statute in there someplace, and I
just don't know. So it's a question of going in
the recorder's office and finding out because that's a weird one.
(21:05):
Uh land use uh land use permit? Well usually be,
wouldn't it be? The I guess the tenant could have
one anyway, I don't know. Does that help? Phil?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Hi?
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Phil?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Welcome?
Speaker 11 (21:19):
Hello Bill? Yeah, oh there you are, Okay, a long
time listener. What I'm calling about is I have an
issue with a storage unit and my sister and kind
of a family issue. My mother passed away a while ago,
and that's kind of important for the story, and my
sister was managing her trust and such, and then she
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basically something happened in her life and everything kind of
grenadd and I haven't heard from her, but just all
the money and everything disappeared in my And then I
got a call from a storage unit facility saying that
because she had my name there as a secondary call,
and hey, she hasn't paid her bill for months, we're
going to an auction off this unit. And then so
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I said, okay, I tried to take care of it,
and then I got a and I they wouldn't let
me get anything from the unit, or they wouldn't have
let me have a even look at the unit, but
they finally let me pay for it, so it just
didn't get sold. Then I got a text from a
different storage unit and they're saying they were going to
sell it because it was late. So I figured it
was the same thing, so I wanted to try to
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call them, and they already sold all the stuff in
the unit. But why they were contacting me is now
the some of the stuff was returned by the people
who bought it, like storage wars, and it was there
was an urn and some other personal pictures and some
sensitive papers. I'm trying to get access to that. And
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they said, okay, we'll give it to you because we
haven't heard from your sister. But then my sister contacted them,
but she never picked up anything. And it's been a
couple of weeks and they're going to turn it over
to the police, but they won't give it to me.
What can I do? Wow, I believe my mom.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Mom, Yeah, no, I understand, you've got Yeah, you've got
an interesting issue in that if you're talking about personal
papers and an urn that I'm assuming he has your
mom's ashes, yes, yeah, yeah, I mean, is there any
is there any evidence that that is your mom that's
parked in that urn?
Speaker 11 (23:23):
They I had them describe it. I know my sister
sent me a picture of the urn once upon a time, okay,
and so there's yeah, it's a purple thing. So I
think I have a picture of it.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Okay, so there is evidence out there that this is
your mom. This is an interesting one.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
You would think that they would just hand it to
you anyway, especially the urn and whatever papers, and keep
all the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Man. You know, at this point you don't even want.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
To touch the legal aspects of this because this is
a cluster truck. If you try to get involved with
all it, I mean, it's it's really it's yeah, it's
it's a mess. I mean I can't even imagine the
legal aspects of this at this point.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's just negotiating and calling.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And the police should should cooperate. I mean, that's my mom,
for God's sake. Who's going to say no?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
And uh? And you've paid for me.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And the problem is it's in your sister's name, right,
She's the one that owns it all.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And and your sister won't cooperate.
Speaker 11 (24:25):
No, Well, I can't get a hold of her.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
All right, Well, that's part of it, okay, And you
know what there there has to be within within the
policy of the storage yard itself. UH that if there
was a family member is willing to pay and uh,
the primary is out there and it's yeah, you're gonna
just have to keep on calling and talk.
Speaker 11 (24:50):
They won't get me any pe checks.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, short of you going to a lawyer who is
going to file motions basically court orders for people to
do various things, return, not return.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Let you in. It's I can't think of anything else.
I mean, it's a mess.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I mean, it's one of those situations where you are
just caught up in a mess.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
See.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Sometimes the law, and I've said this many times, everybody
turns to the law and thinks the law has all
the answers.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It does not.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
As I've said before, in many cases, the law is
just sloppy and it's the last thing you want to
deal with, and then it ends up as the last resort,
the only thing you want to deal with. For example
of that case, I mean that has it was almost
like a bar exam question.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
There's so many issues involved. Pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Jonathan, Hi, Jonathan, welcome, Hey Bill, can you hear me?
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I can.
Speaker 9 (25:52):
Awesome, Well, thank you for taking my call though, I
appreciate that, so I'll get right to it. Is my
wife back in November twenty twenty three, was driving my
car and she got into an accident. According to her,
my kid's accident wasn't her fault. She exchanged information with
the driver. She is not covered underneath my insurance. But
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regardless they exchange information, they say it's his fault, and
so I want to follow claim against his insurance. I
went to follow claim against his insurance. They told me
that I wasn't allowed to do that, and then they
also told me when I gave them the policy number
that his insurance, that that policy number or name did
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not exist there. Fast forward to about two months ago.
Because nothing ever happened. Now, let's fast forward to two
months ago. I received a letter in the mail from
I believe it was a credit collection agency, but it
said that's a lawyer wants to collect twelve fifty for
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me for that accident. So well, I didn't know what
was going on. I called that number up and I said, oh,
I've been trying to you know, I'm so glad somebody
had contenting on this because you have a driver that's
dangerous on the road, okay. And then they said, oh,
they don't care. They just want to collect the twelve
fifty for me.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And I said, you talking about twelve twelve fifty million,
hundred and fifty dollars, right, yes, okay, and all right,
so I got it. So they all right, so far,
So what's your question?
Speaker 9 (27:34):
Yeah? So then so my question is, uh, there was
no investigation, no nothing. Do I owe them that twelve fifty?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It depends, Uh, you know, it's it's a small claim's court.
I mean the lawyer. I don't know what a lawyer
is doing with that.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
So you tell everybody to pound sand until a suit
is filed of some kind, okay, And you're not obligated
to do anything until you get some kind of a
document just because the lawyer is demanding. Lawyers demand all
day long. So what matter of fact, I'd call a lawyer,
I go, what are you doing twelve hundred and fifty dollars?
I mean, you're a lawyer and you're trying to collect
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twelve hundred and fifty dollars?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
What planet are you on?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Clearly it's a collection firm that these things are just
sent out like.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
And I did say that to them, and so not
nice of words, And I said, you know what, and
so this was so there, I told So, now I
called up his insurance company. I want to file claim.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, and he doesn't have insurance. But I get it,
he doesn't have insurance.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
He took insurance now so they so he has insurance.
Now he has insurance. And they told me, I can't
believe this. Didn't that that they won't allow you to
fillo a claim to fill?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
No, no, you can't. If you're no, if you're uninsured,
you can't go forward and file a claim. And you
are uninsured, you don't have insurance.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
So just case she did not, so.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
No, that means you don't.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
It was your car, right, yeah, yeah, that means you
don't have insurance on your car. If she has been excluded,
you have someone you don't have insurance. With that being said,
and I have to wrap this up. With that being said,
you wait until something happens and you defend.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
That's all. It's their fault and that's it.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Got it.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
There's nothing else to do.
Speaker 9 (29:12):
She call me if I told them to go pound
stand and I told her.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah you can.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, you can start using Yeah, you can start using
the word harassment. You can start using at some point. Okay,
hang on, hang on, I see harassment is happening here.
You simply say, I got it, stop harassing me. If
you have an issue, take me to court and you
and you memorialize.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You just keep track of all the phone calls. That's
what you do. This is handle on the Law.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, by handle here Saturday morning, last segment of the show.
After the show, just as I walk out, which de
Morrow comes aboard, you can still make phone calls.
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Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Handle on the Law marginal legal advice where I tell
you you have no case.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Devin, Hello, Devin, welcome.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Bill?
Speaker 12 (30:18):
Go ahead, Devin, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Bill?
Speaker 12 (30:20):
Okay, So, my landlord tried to evict me about a
year ago for non payment a rent. There was a
rooch infestation, mold infestation. I basically won. He tried to
take me back to court for withholding the rent again,
but he never fixed the mold or remediated anything in
the original court order. So we're going to court.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Currently.
Speaker 12 (30:44):
His wife, the wife of the landlord emailed me about
two weeks ago and said, offer me cash for the keys.
So I have an attorney, but I still told her,
if you want us to leave, with all the inconvenience
of move, been having to move, and everything we've been
through with the roaches in the moat, we'll take twenty thousand.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
She said that how much is you offering?
Speaker 12 (31:08):
She would She hasn't come back with the offer yet,
but I'm I'm asking.
Speaker 11 (31:13):
Am I wrong for it?
Speaker 12 (31:14):
Aging?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
You?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Absolutely not?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You're totally right, and I because you're gonna win again,
especially if there was a court order to do the
remediation and you and they and the landlord hasn't done it.
You've got a stronger case than you had before when
you won. So at this point it's free rent and
they're gonna lose again, and.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
So it's it's a question of dollars, that's all. It's
just a question of dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
At some point, she's got to figure out how much
money is it going to cost for you to stay
there and not collect the rent, and how much is
it going to cost for her to remediate everything, and
just just dollars, and you can tell her, hey, just
do the numbers. Do the number, I figures twenty one.
If not, you know in court you're gonna lose again.
(32:05):
So you're fine, No, and you're not off base at
all at all.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Vivian, Hi, Vivian, welcome.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Hi Bill.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I live in a fifty five and above place, and
last summer they were going to do repairs on our
detested garage, so we had to turn in our keys.
And then when Christmas came, I noticed a lot of
crates were missing. And then now this Eastern that just passed,
(32:40):
I noticed more stuff missing. I went to HLA and
they said I have no proof, and we had a
police report then, but they want proof.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Okay, so what's your question.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
I think they're liable.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Well, okay, what's your quest.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
For my missing stuff?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Okay, okay, Well what what's missing? Vivian?
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Well, about a thousand dollars worth of Christmas ornaments and
a little bit of Easter ornaments.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Okay, so let me ask let me ask you. Let
me ask you a question. Since you have no proof,
why don't you make a ten thousand dollars? Why only
a thousand dollars?
Speaker 11 (33:20):
Well, I was trying to be honest.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, Well, listen, there's no proof here.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
It's your word, and so why don't you ask for
ten thousand dollars?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
The point is there's no proof, Vivian.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
How can you hold someone liable for something of which
there is no evidence.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
But if we had a turnover the key to them.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
That doesn't mean that doesn't mean there's liability, that doesn't
mean they've taken anything.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That just means they have the key.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
The contractors that they hired are the one that took it.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Okay, how do you know? But they you have no
proof that they took it. You have no proof that
it was in there.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Oh, well, I have pictures of all my.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Okay, you have pictures of all this stuff in Okay,
in boxes.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
You have pictures in the garage. That's pretty impressive. So
you took the pictures of the stuff in the boxes.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Well now no.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Oh, you have pictures of it on your trees. Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, let's go back to ten thousand dollars, because if
you're going to go for it, you.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Might as well just go for it.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Vivian, you have no proof, and that's where it's at. Okay,
And so there's absolutely nothing there. Okay, before we take
a break or Before we end it, I just want
to quickly give you a message about the Pain Game
Podcasts and the I'll be taking phone calls afterwards. Pain
Game Podcast is a podcast about pain and it's my wife, Lindsay,
(34:59):
who suffers from CRPS. It's a pain syndrome and she
has for years. And because she hurts and has people
that hurt and helps people that hurt chronic pain, she
started the Pain Game Podcast and it is about understanding pain,
not only yours, but a loved one, and she does it.
Oh it's funny, sometimes depraved, serious. I mean, it checks
(35:23):
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so if you suffer from pain trauma or know someone
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(35:43):
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Pain Game Podcast. Now, as I end the sho show,
as I said, I will continue on off the air.
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This is Handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
You you have absolutely no case. Hopefully.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
La County pays a fortune in settlement settlements every single year,
and it's getting.
Speaker 1 (00:53):
Worse and worse. There is a juvenile.
Speaker 2 (00:57):
Hall run by the County of La It's called Los
Pudrino's Juvenile Hall, and it's run by the Probation Department,
and it has been investigated over and over again, violation
after violation. Not only the way it's maintained rats and
you know, the food is horrible, but it's a cesspool
(01:19):
of drug use and it's just not a good place.
And so the La County County of La has agreed
to pay two point seven million dollars to one teenager.
And you wonder, how does a teenager get two point
seven million dollars when you've got a whole slew of violations.
(01:41):
Wouldn't everybody be able to sue? Well, this one's a
little bit different because he was beat senselessly at that
juvenile hall.
Speaker 1 (01:52):
And video and this is video of a December twenty
twenty three.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
Beating, showed Jose Ribas Bardias, who was sixteen years old,
being pummeled by six other juveniles at the juvenile hall.
Probation officers standing by. They're looking at this. So each
kid attacked Rebus for a few seconds, and then they
(02:18):
returned to breakfast. Two officers later identified as long term
probation officials were laughing and shaking hands and encouraging the brawl.
They're calling this gladiator fights, where the probation officers themselves
the guards not only just looked at these fights.
Speaker 1 (02:41):
And ignored them, but were actively.
Speaker 2 (02:44):
Encouraging them and betting on them gladiator fights.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
The video was first reported by the La.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Times, and immediately a criminal investigation, of course ensued by
the State Attorney General's office. Later on, thirty probation officers
when investigated, and these two were actually tagged with allowing
and encouraging fights inside the County Juvenile Hall. And I
(03:14):
have a couple of questions about this. Number One, everybody
knows there's video. Why in God's name would two probation
officers in the juvenile hall in a public space allow
the beating to take place, sit back and laugh and
shake hands? How stupid are they? How they get the job?
(03:38):
And then is there no way to control it? Well, yeah,
you get probation officers in there that stop it, that
actually guard the juveniles. So here it is two point
seven million dollars and this is a settlement.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
La County puts away.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
I don't know how many hundred millions of dollars to
settle cases every year, as does the City of Los Angeles,
as does the state of California.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
And every year it beats that budget. Every year beats
the budget. Go crazy.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
Huh, Bonnie, Hello, Bonnie, welcome, Hi Bill.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I'm calling for a friend and i'd like your advice
on does she have a case? Do they have a case?
So here's the situation. She was making a left hand turn.
She had a yellow proceed with caution, type of light
going on. She proceeded with caution, and then all of
a sudden she heard a crash and a fourteen year
(04:41):
old on a illegal street vehicle hit her rare passenger
right door. She didn't even see him. He was in
all black, vehicle was black. It was nighttime. It happened
this week, and she's she's not hurt, but she got
(05:02):
out of her car. He was on the side of
the street with his friends moaning. So she had cold
nine one one. He went to the hospital. She doesn't
know anything past that. Should she get a lawyer immediately?
Speaker 2 (05:16):
No, no, no, not no, no, I'll be she's gonna
get sued if that kid's banged up.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
I mean that's a given. But no, she has insurance, right,
she has auto insurance.
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Yes, yes, Once, once she is contacted by the kid's
family or the kid's lawyer, whatever, she just turns it
over to the insurance company. They defend that's part. Yeah,
that's part of insurance, not just paying if you're a fault,
but defending you. And what will happen is the insurance
company will probably settle up with the kid, pay him
(05:48):
a couple of thousand dollars or say it's not her
fault and say too bad.
Speaker 1 (05:53):
That happens all the time too. But no, she doesn't
get a lawyer.
Speaker 2 (05:56):
She'll she will probably have a lawyer if any litigation starts.
Speaker 1 (06:02):
But that is the insurance company defending her. Jake, Hello, Jake, Hello, Jake,
Are you there?
Speaker 4 (06:14):
Jake?
Speaker 5 (06:15):
Jake?
Speaker 1 (06:17):
All right, something's going on there, so I'll put Jake
on hold. It's a problem that happens with these programs
and call ins. It's just been that way for years
and years. Don hi, don welcome.
Speaker 6 (06:31):
Hi, Bill, dontnard here. My sister lives in a condominium
complex that allows smoking. One of her neighbors uses a
nozone generator to clear up the snow and the odor
of the smoke and the particles, and that is permeating
(06:51):
through the building and poisoning other people. How do we
get her to stop?
Speaker 2 (06:57):
Okay, when you say the building allows smoking, California law
does not allow smoking in any building. So we're talking
about within an apartment, correct, it's it's in it's in
the home, right.
Speaker 6 (07:10):
It's in a condominium complex. It's in Washington state.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Oh, got it? Okay, So it's not in California. Okay,
so smoking is allowed, I'm assuming by law. And at
the same time, you've got a facility says smoking as okay,
what are the symptoms of ozone poisoning?
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Well, in her case, it's rather severe because she's diagnosed
with pulmonary fibrosis.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Oh okay, So the doctor.
Speaker 6 (07:39):
Damages the lungs.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Okay, fair enough, fair enough.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
And the doctor she's she has a medical opinion that
her uh, that her problem, her medical problem is either
caused by or exacerbated by the ozone.
Speaker 6 (07:54):
Correct exacerbated by yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (07:57):
And by the way, you need a medical opinion on that.
You can't just walk in and say that. So there
has to okay, good, Well, a couple of things. The
easiest way is there'll be a court order you go in,
especially if you have a bunch of people that are
being affected by the ozone. And by the way, California,
(08:18):
just California, you know.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
There's a limit.
Speaker 2 (08:20):
I don't think California even allows THO zone filters anymore
in public places. But okay, And I don't know what
Washington obviously does. I guess is Washington allow ozone filters?
Speaker 6 (08:35):
Yes, you do?
Speaker 2 (08:36):
Okay, So it's walking into court and having a judge say, no, Ozone,
you're done because someone is hurt and she can sue
on top of that for the exacerbation of her pulmonary problems.
So what I'm going to suggest is all of you
who are affected, you all band together, and that way
(08:58):
you'll split the attorney's us and just go in and
get it a file emotion and no judge will fail
to issue a court order. And then you have the
guy with you know, mister ozone has to decide is
you get to violate a court order or not.
Speaker 1 (09:13):
But that's where you first start.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
And then there I would call the authorities, that is,
the city, the county to see if there's any violation
about what he's doing, maybe extending going beyond a certain
level of ozone, because there are levels that are allowed
and not allowed, So that's where I would go. That's
that's a little complicated, it's not fun, but that's ends
(09:37):
up what happening.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
That happens. All right.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
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difficult to do business because starting with the supply chain
situation and the pandemic and now we have tariffs. I mean,
it has gotten crazy and it's it's difficult to do
business far more now if you are doing anything manually
(10:02):
in terms of administration your nuts. You want to concentrate
on your business, finding customers, selling to customers, producing what
you produce your services, following up to do the administrative part,
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Speaker 1 (11:13):
On the law. Hello, Jake, there we go, Jake, go ahead.
Speaker 7 (11:18):
Hey, hey Bill, I'm sorry, but that emergency fallen out
a line. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (11:23):
Question.
Speaker 7 (11:24):
My old landlord, we used to live in her house.
She has this eighty four transam, nice and clean, less
than seventy thousand miles, and then she finally sold the house.
She asked my neighbor to uh park it in his driveway,
and then she retired and went back to the Philippines.
(11:44):
Every six months she comes back here and check on
the stuff. Now she wants to sell the car, but
my neighbor cannot sell it because they don't have the
pink slip because the owner was the ex husband is deceased.
So how can they sell the the car without the
pink slip or the way they could?
Speaker 2 (12:06):
Yeah, they can't there, but there has to be a
way of doing it, because I've never had someone try
to sell me a forty year old car that somehow
only has seventy thousand miles on it. By the way,
a trans am that's forty years old with seventy thousand miles,
I'm assuming it's worth some money, Jake, am I right.
Speaker 7 (12:24):
Yeah, it's clean, it's clean.
Speaker 1 (12:25):
It's well, I don't care if it's clean, but I mean,
is that considered.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I assume it's considered a collectible, and it's how much
you think it's worth.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
I'm just curious, any idea.
Speaker 7 (12:34):
I'll be well, I'm probably thinking about maybe twenty thousand dollar.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Okay, so that's real money, all right.
Speaker 2 (12:40):
So the bottom line is you cannot sell it without
a pink slip. However, you're not the only person that's
ever been in this position. So I am assuming you.
You go into the DMV and they're pretty good, you're
making you go online, make an appointment. You're not waiting
very long, and show up with a death certificate. She
shows up with a death certificate, and I think she
(13:04):
can get title, and then title can transfer upon a sale.
So it's all about going to the DMV because they
have to have some process doing that.
Speaker 1 (13:14):
Because this happens all the time. I just don't know
how it's done, so I don't know. All right, I
give that a shot. Okay, just go to the agency.
This is why I get paid the big bucks. Right, Oh, good,
good god? All right, Bob, Hello, Bob, welcome, Yeah, how
(13:36):
you doing?
Speaker 8 (13:36):
But I have a real mess here. Basically, it's been
me and my mother for the past thirty years. That's all.
It wound up, and I have two siblings that were
pretty much out of the picture. They state did their
own thing and so on, and they suddenly just over
(14:00):
the head of mother that she was in her nineties
and slowing down. And I guess what happened was she
got caught it really bad, and I took it to
the hospital and she was there for like two months.
She must have called them mouth she was there and
told them she was dying, and she was I had
it too. I suffered it out at home. But anyway,
(14:23):
my prayers were an said. I did get her back,
And suddenly my siblings are in the picture a lot,
and I realized what they were up to. I did
have my mother's will and all, but I didn't have
other things. We were going to transfer the home, but
(14:44):
they told us if we did it before I'm sixty five,
that the Texas would go through the roof or something.
Speaker 9 (14:51):
And said, well, okay, you know we're not going.
Speaker 1 (14:55):
There's not gone with a wing here. So what's the
bottom of what happened?
Speaker 5 (15:01):
And what.
Speaker 8 (15:03):
Happened was I realized what they were.
Speaker 1 (15:07):
Up to and what were they up to? What were
they up to?
Speaker 8 (15:11):
Well, they would snatch her when I wasn't here, and
I'm going crazy wondering where she was with what's going on.
They wouldn't they wouldn't take my calls. Okay, So what happened?
Speaker 1 (15:22):
So what happened when they what happened when they snatched her?
Speaker 8 (15:26):
Well, she was always hurting, they care. She always wound
up with broken rooms and I think cushion.
Speaker 2 (15:31):
And all right, and I assuming you called Okay, did
you call the authorities? Did you call the police?
Speaker 8 (15:37):
Well, I filed missing persons when I found her missing.
I don't know where she was and.
Speaker 2 (15:42):
This is this is going all over the place, Bob,
I need some help here.
Speaker 5 (15:46):
I know.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
Okay, what happened? Okay? What did they do that?
Speaker 8 (15:49):
I get her back? And I said, that's the end
of that. They're not taking her anymore. And I knew
what they were up to. And my brother actually busted
in here and tried to kill me.
Speaker 1 (16:00):
Okay, wow, but he obviously didn't kill you.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
So we got we got to get to the end
of this because I only have three hours for this show. Bob,
I know, I know he was arrested and charged A right, Okay,
you're still dealing with the story.
Speaker 1 (16:17):
So what what do you want what I.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
Came back from the hospital, she was gone again, and
I found out my sister had.
Speaker 8 (16:24):
Her and I couldn't get her back.
Speaker 4 (16:26):
And okay, got it?
Speaker 9 (16:28):
All right?
Speaker 1 (16:28):
This goes on. What is your question, Bob?
Speaker 4 (16:31):
They stuck her in a nursing home I planned, and
she died there. Okay, Now they're trying to they're trying
to take the home.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
He got it, all right, So how are they trying
to take the home?
Speaker 1 (16:42):
Explain that to me?
Speaker 4 (16:44):
Well, I guess, well, they had her.
Speaker 8 (16:45):
They made some garbage will up.
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Oh, okay, got it. So they grabbed her. They made
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All right.
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Bottom line is I got the real will, and I understand.
Now here's what you have to do is set aside
that will that they have, and that's going to be
easy to do based on the fact that it was
done in the nineties.
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The trick is finding an attorney.
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How much money are we talking about here the home
value and is it still around or did they sell
it and all the money is gone?
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Well, I'm still in the home.
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This is Handle on the Law.
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You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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KFI. Handle here Saturday morning.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Another half hour or so to go till the end
of the show, and then I'm still taking phone calls afterwards,
and I'll tell you about that I'm doing off the air,
which I do every Saturday.
Speaker 1 (19:29):
Phone number.
Speaker 2 (19:30):
We have some lines open eight hundred five two zero
one five three four eight hundred five two zero one
five three four and that is the number.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
And you'll get in pretty quickly actually, because we have
a few lines open. As they say, welcome back to
Handle on the Law.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
Marginal Legal Advice Serena Hi, Serena, welcome.
Speaker 6 (19:56):
Hello, I phone out of my pocket.
Speaker 1 (20:01):
That would be good.
Speaker 3 (20:03):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (20:05):
My question, the bottom line is is there a statue
of limitations on debts to the county like for a
land use permit. Do they have a statue to.
Speaker 8 (20:15):
Apply to them like a normal debt.
Speaker 5 (20:17):
Or are they a special circumstance?
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Well, okay, explain what happened here. There was a land
use permit that was not paid.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
For correct by a tenant, a deadbeat tenant decades ago,
and now the county is coming after the landowner saying
that we need to pay it.
Speaker 1 (20:35):
And how much? Yeah? How much are they asking for?
Speaker 5 (20:40):
A fifty thousand plus?
Speaker 1 (20:42):
All right? Fifty thousand plus? I yeah, it depends on
I mean, I'm assuming that the property is equivalent to
a lean and the rules are totally different. But if
this is decades and decades ago, you know what, there
has to be a statute in there someplace, and I
just don't know. So it's a question of going in
the recorder's office and finding out because that's a weird one.
(21:05):
Uh land use uh land use permit? Well usually be,
wouldn't it be? The I guess the tenant could have
one anyway, I don't know. Does that help? Phil?
Speaker 5 (21:16):
Hi?
Speaker 7 (21:16):
Phil?
Speaker 1 (21:17):
Welcome?
Speaker 11 (21:19):
Hello Bill? Yeah, oh there you are, Okay, a long
time listener. What I'm calling about is I have an
issue with a storage unit and my sister and kind
of a family issue. My mother passed away a while ago,
and that's kind of important for the story, and my
sister was managing her trust and such, and then she
(21:41):
basically something happened in her life and everything kind of
grenadd and I haven't heard from her, but just all
the money and everything disappeared in my And then I
got a call from a storage unit facility saying that
because she had my name there as a secondary call,
and hey, she hasn't paid her bill for months, we're
going to an auction off this unit. And then so
(22:02):
I said, okay, I tried to take care of it,
and then I got a and I they wouldn't let
me get anything from the unit, or they wouldn't have
let me have a even look at the unit, but
they finally let me pay for it, so it just
didn't get sold. Then I got a text from a
different storage unit and they're saying they were going to
sell it because it was late. So I figured it
was the same thing, so I wanted to try to
(22:24):
call them, and they already sold all the stuff in
the unit. But why they were contacting me is now
the some of the stuff was returned by the people
who bought it, like storage wars, and it was there
was an urn and some other personal pictures and some
sensitive papers. I'm trying to get access to that. And
(22:47):
they said, okay, we'll give it to you because we
haven't heard from your sister. But then my sister contacted them,
but she never picked up anything. And it's been a
couple of weeks and they're going to turn it over
to the police, but they won't give it to me.
What can I do? Wow, I believe my mom.
Speaker 2 (23:01):
Mom, Yeah, no, I understand, you've got Yeah, you've got
an interesting issue in that if you're talking about personal
papers and an urn that I'm assuming he has your
mom's ashes, yes, yeah, yeah, I mean, is there any
is there any evidence that that is your mom that's
parked in that urn?
Speaker 11 (23:23):
They I had them describe it. I know my sister
sent me a picture of the urn once upon a time, okay,
and so there's yeah, it's a purple thing. So I
think I have a picture of it.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
Okay, so there is evidence out there that this is
your mom. This is an interesting one.
Speaker 2 (23:40):
You would think that they would just hand it to
you anyway, especially the urn and whatever papers, and keep
all the rest of it.
Speaker 1 (23:48):
Man. You know, at this point you don't even want.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
To touch the legal aspects of this because this is
a cluster truck. If you try to get involved with
all it, I mean, it's it's really it's yeah, it's
it's a mess. I mean I can't even imagine the
legal aspects of this at this point.
Speaker 1 (24:06):
It's just negotiating and calling.
Speaker 7 (24:08):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (24:09):
And the police should should cooperate. I mean, that's my mom,
for God's sake. Who's going to say no?
Speaker 1 (24:15):
And uh? And you've paid for me.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
And the problem is it's in your sister's name, right,
She's the one that owns it all.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
And and your sister won't cooperate.
Speaker 11 (24:25):
No, Well, I can't get a hold of her.
Speaker 7 (24:27):
I can't.
Speaker 2 (24:28):
All right, Well, that's part of it, okay, And you
know what there there has to be within within the
policy of the storage yard itself. UH that if there
was a family member is willing to pay and uh,
the primary is out there and it's yeah, you're gonna
just have to keep on calling and talk.
Speaker 11 (24:50):
They won't get me any pe checks.
Speaker 5 (24:51):
You know.
Speaker 2 (24:53):
Yeah, short of you going to a lawyer who is
going to file motions basically court orders for people to
do various things, return, not return.
Speaker 1 (25:08):
Let you in. It's I can't think of anything else.
I mean, it's a mess.
Speaker 2 (25:12):
I mean, it's one of those situations where you are
just caught up in a mess.
Speaker 5 (25:17):
See.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Sometimes the law, and I've said this many times, everybody
turns to the law and thinks the law has all
the answers.
Speaker 1 (25:24):
It does not.
Speaker 2 (25:26):
As I've said before, in many cases, the law is
just sloppy and it's the last thing you want to
deal with, and then it ends up as the last resort,
the only thing you want to deal with. For example
of that case, I mean that has it was almost
like a bar exam question.
Speaker 1 (25:40):
There's so many issues involved. Pretty crazy.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
Jonathan, Hi, Jonathan, welcome, Hey Bill, can you hear me?
Speaker 5 (25:50):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (25:50):
I can.
Speaker 9 (25:52):
Awesome, Well, thank you for taking my call though, I
appreciate that, so I'll get right to it. Is my
wife back in November twenty twenty three, was driving my
car and she got into an accident. According to her,
my kid's accident wasn't her fault. She exchanged information with
the driver. She is not covered underneath my insurance. But
(26:18):
regardless they exchange information, they say it's his fault, and
so I want to follow claim against his insurance. I
went to follow claim against his insurance. They told me
that I wasn't allowed to do that, and then they
also told me when I gave them the policy number
that his insurance, that that policy number or name did
(26:41):
not exist there. Fast forward to about two months ago.
Because nothing ever happened. Now, let's fast forward to two
months ago. I received a letter in the mail from
I believe it was a credit collection agency, but it
said that's a lawyer wants to collect twelve fifty for
(27:01):
me for that accident. So well, I didn't know what
was going on. I called that number up and I said, oh,
I've been trying to you know, I'm so glad somebody
had contenting on this because you have a driver that's
dangerous on the road, okay. And then they said, oh,
they don't care. They just want to collect the twelve
fifty for me.
Speaker 1 (27:22):
And I said, you talking about twelve twelve fifty million,
hundred and fifty dollars, right, yes, okay, and all right,
so I got it. So they all right, so far,
So what's your question?
Speaker 9 (27:34):
Yeah? So then so my question is, uh, there was
no investigation, no nothing. Do I owe them that twelve fifty?
Speaker 1 (27:42):
It depends, Uh, you know, it's it's a small claim's court.
I mean the lawyer. I don't know what a lawyer
is doing with that.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
So you tell everybody to pound sand until a suit
is filed of some kind, okay, And you're not obligated
to do anything until you get some kind of a
document just because the lawyer is demanding. Lawyers demand all
day long. So what matter of fact, I'd call a lawyer,
I go, what are you doing twelve hundred and fifty dollars?
I mean, you're a lawyer and you're trying to collect
(28:10):
twelve hundred and fifty dollars?
Speaker 1 (28:11):
What planet are you on?
Speaker 2 (28:13):
Clearly it's a collection firm that these things are just
sent out like.
Speaker 9 (28:19):
And I did say that to them, and so not
nice of words, And I said, you know what, and
so this was so there, I told So, now I
called up his insurance company. I want to file claim.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
Yeah, and he doesn't have insurance. But I get it,
he doesn't have insurance.
Speaker 9 (28:30):
He took insurance now so they so he has insurance.
Now he has insurance. And they told me, I can't
believe this. Didn't that that they won't allow you to
fillo a claim to fill?
Speaker 2 (28:39):
No, no, you can't. If you're no, if you're uninsured,
you can't go forward and file a claim. And you
are uninsured, you don't have insurance.
Speaker 9 (28:48):
So just case she did not, so.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
No, that means you don't.
Speaker 2 (28:52):
It was your car, right, yeah, yeah, that means you
don't have insurance on your car. If she has been excluded,
you have someone you don't have insurance. With that being said,
and I have to wrap this up. With that being said,
you wait until something happens and you defend.
Speaker 1 (29:07):
That's all. It's their fault and that's it.
Speaker 7 (29:10):
Got it.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
There's nothing else to do.
Speaker 9 (29:12):
She call me if I told them to go pound
stand and I told her.
Speaker 1 (29:14):
Yeah you can.
Speaker 2 (29:15):
Yeah, you can start using Yeah, you can start using
the word harassment. You can start using at some point. Okay,
hang on, hang on, I see harassment is happening here.
You simply say, I got it, stop harassing me. If
you have an issue, take me to court and you
and you memorialize.
Speaker 1 (29:35):
You just keep track of all the phone calls. That's
what you do. This is handle on the Law.
Speaker 2 (29:42):
Yeah, by handle here Saturday morning, last segment of the show.
After the show, just as I walk out, which de
Morrow comes aboard, you can still make phone calls.
Speaker 1 (29:53):
And for the for those of you that are on hold,
by the way, just hang loose. I'll get to you.
Speaker 2 (29:57):
And I'm doing it off the air too, so we
go through them very quick. So do not go away
as I say goodbye, because I'll still be there off
the air for you.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
Welcome back.
Speaker 2 (30:05):
Handle on the Law marginal legal advice where I tell
you you have no case.
Speaker 1 (30:12):
Devin, Hello, Devin, welcome.
Speaker 5 (30:15):
Hey, what's going on?
Speaker 1 (30:16):
Bill?
Speaker 12 (30:18):
Go ahead, Devin, what's going on?
Speaker 5 (30:19):
Bill?
Speaker 12 (30:20):
Okay, So, my landlord tried to evict me about a
year ago for non payment a rent. There was a
rooch infestation, mold infestation. I basically won. He tried to
take me back to court for withholding the rent again,
but he never fixed the mold or remediated anything in
the original court order. So we're going to court.
Speaker 4 (30:43):
Currently.
Speaker 12 (30:44):
His wife, the wife of the landlord emailed me about
two weeks ago and said, offer me cash for the keys.
So I have an attorney, but I still told her,
if you want us to leave, with all the inconvenience
of move, been having to move, and everything we've been
through with the roaches in the moat, we'll take twenty thousand.
Speaker 1 (31:05):
She said that how much is you offering?
Speaker 12 (31:08):
She would She hasn't come back with the offer yet,
but I'm I'm asking.
Speaker 11 (31:13):
Am I wrong for it?
Speaker 12 (31:14):
Aging?
Speaker 2 (31:15):
You?
Speaker 1 (31:16):
Absolutely not?
Speaker 2 (31:17):
You're totally right, and I because you're gonna win again,
especially if there was a court order to do the
remediation and you and they and the landlord hasn't done it.
You've got a stronger case than you had before when
you won. So at this point it's free rent and
they're gonna lose again, and.
Speaker 1 (31:38):
So it's it's a question of dollars, that's all. It's
just a question of dollars.
Speaker 2 (31:42):
At some point, she's got to figure out how much
money is it going to cost for you to stay
there and not collect the rent, and how much is
it going to cost for her to remediate everything, and
just just dollars, and you can tell her, hey, just
do the numbers. Do the number, I figures twenty one.
If not, you know in court you're gonna lose again.
(32:05):
So you're fine, No, and you're not off base at
all at all.
Speaker 1 (32:11):
Vivian, Hi, Vivian, welcome.
Speaker 4 (32:14):
Hi Bill.
Speaker 1 (32:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (32:18):
I live in a fifty five and above place, and
last summer they were going to do repairs on our
detested garage, so we had to turn in our keys.
And then when Christmas came, I noticed a lot of
crates were missing. And then now this Eastern that just passed,
(32:40):
I noticed more stuff missing. I went to HLA and
they said I have no proof, and we had a
police report then, but they want proof.
Speaker 1 (32:51):
Okay, so what's your question.
Speaker 5 (32:52):
I think they're liable.
Speaker 1 (32:54):
Well, okay, what's your quest.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
For my missing stuff?
Speaker 1 (32:57):
Okay, okay, Well what what's missing? Vivian?
Speaker 5 (33:02):
Well, about a thousand dollars worth of Christmas ornaments and
a little bit of Easter ornaments.
Speaker 2 (33:10):
Okay, so let me ask let me ask you. Let
me ask you a question. Since you have no proof,
why don't you make a ten thousand dollars? Why only
a thousand dollars?
Speaker 11 (33:20):
Well, I was trying to be honest.
Speaker 1 (33:22):
Yeah, Well, listen, there's no proof here.
Speaker 2 (33:27):
It's your word, and so why don't you ask for
ten thousand dollars?
Speaker 1 (33:34):
The point is there's no proof, Vivian.
Speaker 2 (33:37):
How can you hold someone liable for something of which
there is no evidence.
Speaker 5 (33:43):
But if we had a turnover the key to them.
Speaker 2 (33:46):
That doesn't mean that doesn't mean there's liability, that doesn't
mean they've taken anything.
Speaker 1 (33:54):
That just means they have the key.
Speaker 5 (33:57):
The contractors that they hired are the one that took it.
Speaker 1 (34:01):
Okay, how do you know? But they you have no
proof that they took it. You have no proof that
it was in there.
Speaker 5 (34:08):
Oh, well, I have pictures of all my.
Speaker 1 (34:11):
Okay, you have pictures of all this stuff in Okay,
in boxes.
Speaker 2 (34:15):
You have pictures in the garage. That's pretty impressive. So
you took the pictures of the stuff in the boxes.
Speaker 5 (34:24):
Well now no.
Speaker 1 (34:27):
Oh, you have pictures of it on your trees. Okay.
Speaker 2 (34:30):
Well, let's go back to ten thousand dollars, because if
you're going to go for it, you.
Speaker 1 (34:33):
Might as well just go for it.
Speaker 2 (34:36):
Vivian, you have no proof, and that's where it's at. Okay,
And so there's absolutely nothing there. Okay, before we take
a break or Before we end it, I just want
to quickly give you a message about the Pain Game
Podcasts and the I'll be taking phone calls afterwards. Pain
Game Podcast is a podcast about pain and it's my wife, Lindsay,
(34:59):
who suffers from CRPS. It's a pain syndrome and she
has for years. And because she hurts and has people
that hurt and helps people that hurt chronic pain, she
started the Pain Game Podcast and it is about understanding pain,
not only yours, but a loved one, and she does it.
Oh it's funny, sometimes depraved, serious. I mean, it checks
(35:23):
all the boxes and it's really worth listening to. And
so if you suffer from pain trauma or know someone
who does, let me suggest the Pain Game Podcast. Every
episode ends with a message of hope and counterintuitively, and
I didn't get this until I started listening, it's about
giving pain purpose. I know that sounds weird, but you'll understand.
(35:43):
That's the Pain Game Podcast. It's wherever you listen to podcasts.
You can follow her on social at the Pain Game Podcast.
Season three just started dropping The Pain Game Podcast. The
Pain Game Podcast. Now, as I end the sho show,
as I said, I will continue on off the air.
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and it's eight hundred five two zero one five three four.
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