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September 6, 2025 35 mins
Handel on the Law. Marginal Legal Advice.

Handel tackles kids breaking into someone's home, stealing their alcohol, escaping on ATVs and drunkenly hurt themselves... Getting over-charged by a lawyers for removing a trustee, and cars blocking driveways.

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I
am six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Heyfie am six forty handle Here. It is a Saturday morning.
I'm here for one more hour and something unusual, something
different for me. In the afternoon two to five o'clock today,
there is a remote broadcast. Neil Sevadra with a Fork
Report is going to be broadcasting from the Wild Fork

(00:32):
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have a great time. Love to have you there, and
there'll be giveaways. Let me some serious giveaways, the game
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Please join us at the Wild Fork Store in Long Beach.
Phone numbers eight hundred five to two zero one, five
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(01:16):
to call you, though we've been doing pretty good today.
Eight hundred five two zero one five three four. This
is handle on the law, marginal legal advice, where I
tell you have absolutely no case all right in the
world of wildfires, especially well in for example, the Palisades Fire,

(01:38):
the Eaton fire here in Southern California, which did an
unbelievable amount of damage. I mean north of fifteen thousand
homes and businesses were wiped out and Pacific Palisades. I mean,
these were really expensive homes. And I know because I
work here at KFI Local LA station where I broadcast from.

(02:00):
There are a lot of people that had homes in
the Pacific Palisades area, and I know half a dozen.
And to see what they went through with the insurance
companies and craziness. And of course they've sued not only
the city of Los Angeles, because I don't want to
get into that, but they've also sued those in the
Eton fire, which is not the Palisades fire. Another fire

(02:25):
that you've got the Southern California Edison and they handle
the utility there, and the lawsuit from both the city
and the homeowners are going against Southern California Edison, saying
that the utility was negligent and there was a power

(02:46):
line that fell down and there wasn't enough brush clearance
and it ignited this fire. And Southern California Edison and
Edison up north has been hit been hit pretty hard.
So you have these lawsuits. There is one that was
just filed and this I haven't seen before. The US

(03:06):
Department of Justice has filed a pair of lawsuits against
the Southern California Edison for those two areas. And this
I haven't seen US Department of Justice. Now, what does
the US Department of Justice have to do with this?
It is a local issue, it's a local utility. Well,
here is the argument. The government is seeking forty million

(03:30):
dollars in damages for the Eaten fire, thirty seven million
dollars in damages for the Fairview fire. And here is
the basis of that lawsuit or those lawsuits. That is
what the government, the US government estimates its spend on
fighting those blazes and for the damage suffered to federal property.

(03:50):
See that is where they are arguing jurisdiction, including fire
detection facilities, fire service roads, hiking trails, campsites in the
Los Angeles and the Angels and Angels National Forest and
the San Bernardino National Forests. That is the lawsuit. Not

(04:13):
only do the local authorities have a lawsuit against you,
Southern California Edison, the plaintiffs, the individual homeowners, their homes
and businesses were destroyed as year fault. They have a lawsuit.
And now the federal government is coming in and saying,
look what you did to the two national forests, the

(04:34):
service roads, the camping, the camp sites, the hiking trails,
and so that's are they gonna pay it? Southern California
Edis's gonna pay it?

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:45):
Probably probably. And part of the lawsuit, and this is
the argument is that the utility should not charge customers
for their liability for but they did wrong. And we'll
see what happens with the lawsuits. All right, Okay, let's

(05:08):
take some phone calls. Oh, here's an interesting one. Terry. Hi, Terry,
welcome to Handle on the Rock.

Speaker 4 (05:18):
Hey, thanks for taking my call. I'll get back to it.
I was out of town. There was two young kids
that went into my apartment and they dranked all of
my liquor. They left about two hours later, got on
their ATV, went down the road, rolled over the ATV

(05:40):
and one of the boys got hurt pretty bad. I
am being sued for fifty thousand dollars for reasons I
have no not no, I don't know why.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
I don't no, I do I know exactly why you're
being sued. And that is some sleevesball lawyer is coming
up and trying to grab you, all right. And the
argument is you have to be negligent. You did something wrong,
and therefore you owe these kids' money. And the question

(06:12):
is what did you do wrong? You kept liquor in
your home. Boy, That's the problem, isn't it, because no
one does that. You lock the place. Yeah, you weren't there?
Oh why why weren't you there? You should be there
every single day, every minute, because if someone breaks into
your house and fifty thousand dollars means nothing. Here's what

(06:34):
they hope to get from your insurance company. A're not
going to go after you individually. Is they hope to
get the lawyers going to try to get a couple
thousand dollars, a few thousand dollars.

Speaker 4 (06:44):
It is, Hey, the insurance company. The insurance company. They
did not get nowhere with that. This happened about three
or four months ago.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Okay, well you say you turned did you turn it
over to your home insurance carrier.

Speaker 4 (06:58):
I don't have home insurance. I just have an apartment
that I rent from my boss's house. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (07:06):
Yeah, I mean you got you have to defend. That's
the problem. This is why you have even renters insurance.
You should have.

Speaker 5 (07:14):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:15):
Is your boss being sued also or just you?

Speaker 4 (07:18):
No, my boss is being sued.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Okay, okay, that's easy, that's easy.

Speaker 6 (07:25):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
The boss defends you because it's the same defense. It's
the same defense. And so just to tell your boss, hey, listen,
this is a frivolous lawsuit. Clearly it's a frivolous lawsuit,
and you've got a defense to just throw me in
the uh, in the defense pile. You'll be fine. But
these are frivolous lawsuits that happen all the time.

Speaker 4 (07:48):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (07:48):
These are lawyers, pretty sleeves ball lawyers who are at
the bottom of the barrel, and uh, that's what you get,
you know. Unfortunately, the law provides a lot of them,
and a lot of it's not even that the law
provides or not provides the law, it's the law that
I guess they'll provide. Yeah, that's a good word. It's

(08:11):
that sleezballs become lawyers because it's a nice way to
make some money without having to pickpocket you or stick
a gun to your face. Oh man, just joy's joys, joys.
This is Handle on the Law. Can't f I handle
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Speaker 4 (08:59):
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Speaker 2 (09:00):
I've been doing that number for thirty years. Eight hundred
and five two zero one five three four. Welcome back,
Handle on the Law, Marginal Legal Advice. Mary. Hello Mary?
What can I do for you?

Speaker 5 (09:15):
Yeah? I have a problem with a lawyer I've been
using for about three years now, just this year is
a trust matter. The charges have come to almost twenty
four thousand dollars. Wow, and you think anyway you think matter? Now?

(09:38):
This doesn't count what I paid her last year the year?

Speaker 2 (09:41):
Wow, Okay, what does she say? By the way, if
your question is is your lawyer over charging you? The
answer is yes, right there. I don't even have to
get the facts. But what has she charged you the
twenty four thousand dollars for? What has she done for that?

Speaker 5 (09:55):
Well, I've got it all in front of me. I
can't read it all off. It's just all kinds of things.
But it's a matter of a trust trying to remove
the trustee. He's almost ninety years old and kind of
losing it, and he keeps saying he's we haven't gone

(10:16):
to court, but we're just about to go to court.
And I understand that could be twenty thousand dollars just
for that.

Speaker 2 (10:22):
Yeah, it's pretty complicated stuff. Removing a trustee is not
an easy thing if the trustee wants to stay. I mean,
it is a court deal, but I mean twenty four
thousand dollars seems pretty hefty.

Speaker 5 (10:36):
The reason he we're removing him is he hasn't supplied
all of us.

Speaker 2 (10:42):
It doesn't matter. It doesn't matter, Mary, I don't care
the reason you're removing him. The issue here is you
are we're trying to and he wants to stay. And
I'm assuming he's got a lawyer or the state where
the trust is paying for his life lawyer, and that
gets because he's the trustee and he is Yeah, I mean, yeah,

(11:05):
the whole thing is crazy.

Speaker 5 (11:06):
It is actually we have two lawyers.

Speaker 2 (11:09):
Okay, how much money? How much money is in the trust? Mary?
How much money is in the trust?

Speaker 5 (11:21):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
You don't know how much way sect you're writing a
check for twenty four thousand dollars and you don't know
what's in the trust.

Speaker 7 (11:29):
You know.

Speaker 5 (11:30):
That's why we're checking him to court, why we want
to remove I have no idea, all right, got it?

Speaker 2 (11:37):
Yeah it can be. It can be that complicated, and
it can be that expensive. I don't have the paperwork
in front of me. The way you're describing this, it
is a complicated case. He's willing to go to court
to stay on the fact that he's ninety years old
and losing it helps a lot for you. But that

(11:59):
means you have to bring in a mental health specialist,
an expert to say he's out of his mind, to
say he doesn't have the cognitive abilities, and let me
tell you what those guys cost. Yeah, yes, that's why
I want to know. I want to know how what
kind of money are you dealing with here? If you're

(12:20):
dealing with one hundred thousand dollars, man, you just say
you've already spent one hundred thousand dollars. He's already spent
one hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 5 (12:29):
And on top of it, he's taking it a loan
for half a million dollars.

Speaker 2 (12:33):
Wait on the trust. Wait a second, he's taking out
a loan, the loan is going where the loan is
going to? He's borrowing against the loan. Let me ask
you if that's where I wanted to go. I don't now,
you know what. I can't answer the question because there's
too much to it and I don't have the paperwork

(12:54):
in front of me. Yeah I know. Uh no, Sometimes
you give me really complicated stuff, and it's really complicated stuff.
And I'm sure the trust is forty pages, I'm sure
the lawsuit is sixty pages. Bill, What do I do?
How the hell do I know? And I'm not going
to read it? Melody high melody.

Speaker 1 (13:17):
Hi, Bill, Yes, I will get right to my question.

Speaker 7 (13:23):
I have an ex employer that is using my Social
Security number.

Speaker 2 (13:28):
Ooh okay, ounce of mind.

Speaker 7 (13:31):
And I need to know who I need to contact.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
You contact Social Security. If your so Security number is
being used fraudulently, you contact Social Security. Those are the
people you contact and they'll straighten it out. Yeah, they
don't like that. That's no fun. Then the only reason
that anybody actually, the reason people use fake social Security

(13:56):
numbers is because they're illegal. Usually nine five percent of
the cases or more is that people are illegal and
you have to have a social Security number. So they
come up with one and they pay into Social Security
and that money disappears, and so it's there. There's a
lot of negative to being an illegal immigrant, especially today.

(14:17):
But yeah, Social Security are the people that control this.

Speaker 7 (14:21):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (14:21):
Other than that, you're gonna go crazy lawsuits. It's all that.
It's kind of nuts. Dean, Hi, Dean, welcome.

Speaker 8 (14:31):
Yeah, good morning. Situation is triplex three units, Condamnium status.
I built them about forty years ago. One of the
units has recently stalled and the purchasers come in and
decimated the inside.

Speaker 1 (14:52):
Of the unit.

Speaker 8 (14:52):
They've stripped out beams and pure panel and chopping up
big holes in the concrete floor into the footings. And
I stopped him from working, and they were rather desponded,
and they said they got a lot of money involved

(15:13):
in it. So anyway, I said to him, look, I'll
let you put it back to the original way that
it was and we'll just call it even. And they said, no,
they want to do these.

Speaker 2 (15:30):
When you say you stopped them, I don't know what
that means. You negotiated with them.

Speaker 8 (15:38):
I went over and I told them that they couldn't
jackhammer the floor.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
Okay, so that was the part that you stopped. Okay,
got it. What's your question?

Speaker 8 (15:48):
My question is what's the proper way to move forward?
Should let him put the place back?

Speaker 2 (15:53):
No, absolutely not. You're you don't have any negotiating position
here or putting it back and call Building and Safety.
Call Building and Safety and they're gonna come out and
they'll shut it down, and if they want to, they'll
make it where it meets code. Believe me, these folks
are going to get a lot of grief. I mean
a lot of grief from Building in Safety. They may

(16:15):
just red tag it, they may just condemn it for
all I know, and out they go. So that's your power.
It doesn't matter, It doesn't matter. They're not in there,
but they own the property. Correct, yes, okay, building and
safety still a building of safety still comes out as

(16:36):
your answer. They're gonna do it all. You know, you
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You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
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That's from two to five o'clock Wildfork Store this afternoon
in Long Beach. All right, back we go. More Handle
on the Law, marginal legal advice. Hey, Laura, welcome to
Handle on the law.

Speaker 6 (19:39):
Hi.

Speaker 7 (19:40):
So I have a complicated situation involving a trust and
a fiduciary. So I have an irrevocable trust and the
fiduciary was assigned by.

Speaker 3 (19:50):
My father who passed away.

Speaker 7 (19:51):
Now that's got so my fuduciary quit working for me.
We didn't get along, and so I've been trying to
find a new fiduciary.

Speaker 9 (20:03):
And in the meantime, she sent me an email, my
old one, saying that she kept money to pay herself
so that she can talk to my new fiduciary. Well,
it concerns me to have her can talk to talk
to my new fiduciary, and why she would keep money
like that, And still the whole thing.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
Is a meth Yeah, how much money is she? How
much money? How much money?

Speaker 7 (20:29):
I have four hundred and twenty thousand.

Speaker 2 (20:30):
Dollars and how much money is she? Taken.

Speaker 7 (20:38):
I don't know, twenty two hundred dollars, twenty seven.

Speaker 8 (20:41):
Hundred dollars I think.

Speaker 3 (20:42):
All right.

Speaker 2 (20:42):
So, by the way, who's the trust who's the trustee?

Speaker 5 (20:49):
Uh? That would be her.

Speaker 2 (20:51):
Oh, she's a trustee and she's also a fiduciary. You're
you're mixing things up here.

Speaker 7 (20:57):
Okay, okay, So wait a minute, So my search is trust.

Speaker 2 (21:01):
All right, Is she the trustee?

Speaker 7 (21:04):
Well, it's weird because she has that word on my
paperwork says she's the trustee of nice irrevocable trust.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
Okay, so she's the trustee, got it?

Speaker 4 (21:14):
Uh?

Speaker 2 (21:14):
So, uh, you've got the old trustee taking money out
to talk to the new trustee, who I'm assuming hasn't
been named yet. Is that correct?

Speaker 7 (21:26):
Correct? That's okay?

Speaker 2 (21:28):
All right, got it? All right? So here here's what
you get to do. First of all, you have to
find a trustee. There has to be a new trustee
on the trust That's simple. You have to do it.
You have no you have no choice, uh the other
situation okay, And no one wants to do and no
one wants to be the trustee.

Speaker 7 (21:47):
That's what I'm finding.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Wow, okay, where where's the money? Where Okay, where's your
four hundred and twenty thousand dollars.

Speaker 7 (21:56):
Part right now? It's to the cashers at my sister's house.

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Oh so it's not even in a bank. It's just
in a cashier check, all right? On which bank is
it written on?

Speaker 7 (22:11):
It's a community like a credit union.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Okay, I would go back to here's what you do.
Go back to the credit union, ask their help and
see where you can go with that. Because if you
can't name a trustee, they'll find one because these are
registered and they that's what they do, financial institutions do.
I don't know why you are not putting the cash

(22:35):
back into the credit union. I don't know what good
a cashiers check is. It's like money under a mattress.
Why don't you put the money back into the credit
union and then just go deal with that?

Speaker 7 (22:50):
Well, nobody's letting me do anything.

Speaker 2 (22:53):
Because you're not the trustee. All right, You've got to
go back to You've got to go back to the
credit union and ask for their help on this one.
This is something I've never seen before. And how about that? Herb, oh, herb, yes, hi, Bill, Yes,
go ahead.

Speaker 6 (23:12):
I got an issue with Frontier. I got an issue
with Frontier Airlines, and it goes back to July nineteenth.
So for two months now, I'm looking for my suitcase
and they are avoiding my calls and putting me off.
What can I do?

Speaker 2 (23:31):
Oh man, Yeah, it's oh god. Those are impossible to
deal with. And I'm assuming you don't have travel insurance.
I'm assuming you don't have travel insurance of any kind. Correct, No,
I didn't, So I didn't do that. So yeah, it's
always a good reason to get travel insurance. And you

(23:52):
can get it through your credit cards, you can get
it through a lot of stuff. All right, Well, what
are you gonna do? You're gonna sue? All right, what's
the value? Here's the problem. What's in the suitcase? What's
the value of the suitcase?

Speaker 9 (24:04):
Well?

Speaker 6 (24:05):
I don't know. Maybe five six, seven dollars?

Speaker 2 (24:10):
Okay, So here all right, so here okay, So here
are the limitations. There's something called the Montreal Conference Montreal Compact,
which all these international airlines or airlines belong to, and
it limits the amount of money you can get from
an airline to three hundred dollars. And it is it's

(24:31):
very difficult to get all you can keep on this
is the way to do it. I mean, you have
to stay away from the law on this one because
you're gonna be up to your eyeballs in this and
you're talking five six hundred dollars, and yeah, at some
point you just write it off. I would just keep
on writing emails and screaming at them over and over
again and find out who it is and do daily

(24:53):
emails because that's not costing you anything. And that's the
way I would handle it, because there really isn't much
more you can do. It's just you know, you're not
talking about losing twenty thousand dollars, of which if you
don't have insurance, no, I got it. So I just
wrap it up on this one. I really would. This
is Handle on the Law. Hey, fine, am six forty

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(25:41):
on the Law, Marginal Legal Advice. Hello Bill, good morning, Hey.

Speaker 3 (25:49):
I have a question. Let's say we're living in I
guess a standard neighborhood with sidewalks that have a spike
grass separation during the street and a sidewalk if you're
going down the sidewalk. Specifically, let's say if you're in
a wheelchair or walker, and the cars as you approach
somebody's driveway, there's so many cars parked in the driveway

(26:10):
that they block the straight through access for the sidewalk.
I guess you could think of an imaginary line through
there all the way out to the street. You have
have to kind of like maneuver your way into the
street to go around these cars. If you can even
do that, because a lot of times the grass is
thick or the curb that's you fall over. So I'm

(26:30):
wondering if I could pursue some kind of eighty A.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
S Okay, well, yeah, I know that's that's stretching it.
Who owns the grass? That would be the homeowner, the homeowners. Okay,
it's not it's not particularly an Ada issue. It's well,
it could be. But you call the homeowner, say cut
your grass, make it so you make it wheelchair can
go across there.

Speaker 3 (26:54):
What there's this there's no pavements completely covered by the cars,
So you have to kind of like go, I can't
imagine going through somebody's lawn.

Speaker 2 (27:06):
If the pavement, If the pavement is covered by cars
and you can't get through, Uh, there is a violation.
You call the police and they ticket those people, and
if they keep on doing it, what they do is
they impound the car. This is not an ADA issue.

Speaker 3 (27:26):
Was rampant. It's rampant in our neighborhood. You can't really
go down any of these sidewalks with that car is
extending over that area all the way to the street
blocking that.

Speaker 2 (27:38):
I don't I don't again, I don't think it's an
ADA issue. I think you just call the cops because
they're blocking a driveway, they're blocking access in terms of
to handicap people. I think the cops. I mean, you're
gonna what get involved with an a DA situation. Uh,
that's not going to help you.

Speaker 3 (27:56):
Well, I thought maybe you could go after the homeowner
the same.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Now now it's businesses that you go after under the ADA,
not homeowners. Businesses are call the cops. Just call the
police and say, hey, these guys are blocking me. I'm
in a wheelchair and I can't get out of there,
and there's the car that's blocking me. Get a ticket
and pulling and pound the car, get them out of there.
That's what you do, all right, Frank, Hello, Frank, welcome, Hello.

Speaker 10 (28:27):
Fil Yes, are you familiar with are you familiar with
US commercial zoning? My question is regarding a conditional use
permit which I applied for after acquiring a commercial property.
I applied for the conditional use permit. Not I hired
a entitlement agent, a civil engineer.

Speaker 11 (28:45):
I went through all the the you know, the filters
that had to go through. I paid the county. There
are submission, there are some mental fee which was almost
ten grand. So my question is that I have not
got a response and it's in eighteen months. Yeah, they
it would be six to eight months.

Speaker 2 (29:05):
Yeah, okay, got it, got it understood. Yeah, you've hired
all the people you have to. I'm assuming somewhere in
there some kind of lobbyist of all the people you
hired or have connection to a lobbyist, they can go
into the city because clearly if they say this is
what you have to do, ABC, D and E, and

(29:27):
then within six to eight months you will get your
use permit. By the way, it doesn't mean you're that
doesn't mean you're going to get it, but they have
to give you an answer, and they're not giving you
an answer. So I would ask any one of those
experts that worked on your case and say, where do
you go from here? Because this isn't the first rodeo.

(29:49):
I mean, these people have experience, they're dealing with the city,
and you go, where do I go? Who do I
complain to? What do I do? And that's going to
be your expertise. You are not going to take a
legal process here. It'll cost you way too much money
and and in the end you're probably gonna be at
the same position you are now. So that's what I do. Now,

(30:11):
if you had a ton of money, Yeah, if you
had a ton of money, I go straight out get
a lobbyist. And there are tons of lobbyists who work
with the city. Matter of fact, I know a couple
of them. I've known them for thirty years. I'm not
going to give you their names because I wouldn't hire them,
but I have known them, and this is what they do.
Their their specialty is helping people through the process, and

(30:35):
they really earn their money when in your situation, you've
been waiting there for fifteen months or eight months or
did you say eighteen months? You you've been waiting oh man, yeah, yeah,
So just ask yeah, you absolutely want to ask what
where you can go with that? Let me see if

(30:56):
I can hang out? Yeah no, no, no, oh no,
I said, ask them, ask them if you can that.
You need some help. I'm trying to get rid of
you here, but it's not working. Okay, here you go,
God bless my phone. Here, I'll close here, got it?
Ahll right, Robin, Hi, Robin, Hi, thanks.

Speaker 1 (31:20):
So much for taking my call. Thank you. My husband
went to go get his driver and his driver's license
and he was refused by the California DMB because he
had an outstanding ticket from nineteen eighty five in Arizona
forty years ago.

Speaker 2 (31:39):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (31:40):
So they directed us to go to the courts in
Arizona and the DMB in Arizona and get some documentation
from them so that it can be released to California
and then he can pay the fine, hopefully not you know,
forty years of interest.

Speaker 2 (31:58):
Yeah, I know you woul can pay the fine.

Speaker 1 (32:01):
Yeah, But we've been going back and forth between the
DMV and the courts in Arizona because they cannot find anything.
And so if they.

Speaker 2 (32:11):
Can't find so if they can't find anything, how does
California have a record of it?

Speaker 1 (32:19):
Because apparently the DMV systems throughout the United States are
now connected.

Speaker 6 (32:24):
Okay, all right, so.

Speaker 2 (32:25):
Now okay, but I still don't understand forty years of it.
But you're okay, and you've gone to California DMV and
you say, what do I do? You just asked the question,
and what do they tell you.

Speaker 1 (32:40):
They want Arizona to release?

Speaker 2 (32:42):
And then and then and then you say, there's no
record of this in Arizona, So what do I do?
That's what you have to ask. I mean, you need
someone at the DMV who has a pencil, who has
the ability to do the waiver here, and you've got
to find that person and just big and whimper and

(33:04):
cry and say I'm stuck here, I'm going in circles here,
and I need a driver's license here.

Speaker 1 (33:12):
So yeah, you're gonna give my husband a heart attack.

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Yeah, well that's yeah, I can see that. But you
have to you go through that route, because what are
you gonna do? File a lawsuit against the DMV. No,
you're not, so you just have to ask. You know
what I'd go to they had the manager, I'd go
to the vice president in charge of Arizona tickets. I

(33:36):
don't know what the hell where to go, but I
would certainly ask the DNV. Yeah, I know, you go
to the You go as far far up the food
chain as you're allowed to go up and ask that
question and just get some help. Someone's got to be
able to help you for sure. All right, real quickly,
I want to tell you about Zelman's before we leave.

(33:57):
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Maybe they reel and collapse in front of you, maybe
they throw up all over you. That's a good hint
that you've got bad breath. So let me suggest you
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(34:18):
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(34:38):
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(34:59):
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