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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listenings k I AM six forty the bill Handles
show on demand on the iHeartRadio fa Pie AM six
forty bill Handle Here Saturday morning, just before Christmas, midweek,
and we're gonna have some fun today.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
I got a couple of stories I want to share
with you, and of course legal advice that I give
you that some people actually pay attention to, which absolutely
floors me. The phone number as always the best time
to call to top of the hour, and it's the
first hour, top of the hour, and that's where lines
are wide open. And the number is eight hundred five

(00:39):
to two zero one five three four. Eight hundred five
to zero one five three four. That's the number. And
don't know if it's gonna be full, it's not gonna
be full. This is one of those things that show
I go through these calls fairly quickly. Sometimes I go
through the lightning fact asked, and sometimes I take my

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time if call was particularly interesting, or the person is
particularly special needs or has some huge physical disability. Double
amputees quadruple amputees are always fun. The phone number eight
hundred and five two zero one five three four, that's the.

Speaker 3 (01:20):
Number to call. And here we go.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell you have absolutely no case, Okay, good starter.
And I love these lawsuits and i'll tell you why,
because you know, life gets pretty serious and we're going
to hear some questions where people's lives are pretty screwed
up and they go through a lot of grief, and

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sometimes they are right and life is not fair. And
of course I enjoy those enormously, but you know that.
But occasionally we get a case that is complet insane
yet at the first glance to go seriously.

Speaker 3 (02:06):
And this is one. This is out of New York.

Speaker 2 (02:09):
There is a New York attorney by the name of
Amanda Reynolds, and she has a dog, and the dog's
name is Finnegan, eight years old. And so what she
is doing is that she has filed a lawsuit, a
federal lawsuit in the Eastern District of New York, arguing

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since the dog relies entirely on her for food, for shelter,
for medical care, for training, and transportation, then her dog
should be deemed a legal dependent under the IRS Code,
allowing her to get that dependent deduction. Much as your

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children give you a deduction on your taxes and statute
and that's been forever. And so she's arguing that her dog, Finnigan,
has no independent income, resides exclusively with her.

Speaker 3 (03:12):
That's a big problem.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
That's a big issue, and has annual expenses exceeding five
thousand dollars. I don't know what a dog on this
planet is worth five thousand dollars or more, but go figure.
And that fits the requirements the IRS lays out for
a legal dependent.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Now, a couple of problems with this lawsuit.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Number one, the IRS defines pets as property. Not just
the IRS defines pet as property, but the law defines
pets as property. For example, if there is a pet
and there's some vicious divorces out there where the point
of the divorce is the custody of the pet, but

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it's not custody because the pet is proper. It's the
same thing as going after grandma's silverware. I want it, No,
you want it, no, I want it. And so what
does the court do, Well, they make some arrangements. But
dogs are a little bit different, differently treated, but in
the end, their property, that's what they are. And I

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get calls all the time, Bill, someone there's a dog
across the street ate my dog for breakfast, and I'm
emotionally devastated.

Speaker 3 (04:27):
Yes you are.

Speaker 2 (04:28):
And it's a family member that has been killed. Yeah,
I'm sure you think that's correct, because people view their
pets as family members.

Speaker 3 (04:38):
So I want to sue. Okay, go ahead and sue.

Speaker 2 (04:40):
And I want to sue for a zillion dollars because
I'm so emotionally distraught.

Speaker 3 (04:45):
Too bad, Too bad. Your property has been destroyed. That's it.

Speaker 2 (04:50):
And you can sue for the value of your pet.
If you get a pet from a breeder, for example,
and it cost you three thousand dollars, you're out three
thousand dollars. Went to the shelter and paid two hundred bucks,
and that is for the vaccinations.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
You're out two hundred dollars. Thank you, here's your money.

Speaker 2 (05:08):
So she writes for all intents and purposes. Finnegan is
like my daughter. What's true, And it's definitely a dependent
that's true. And it may seem unusual. This lawsuit is
not frivolous or meritless. It's true. It is frivolous, it
is meritless, and it's just a fun lawsuit. I mean,

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where's it gonna go, of course, absolutely nothing. But here's
what happens. The courts love these kinds of lawsuits because
you know, the judges and judges chambers and their clerks.
They sit around and go, man, did I have a
good one today? And then they gossip, gossip, gossip, and
let me get rid of that one.

Speaker 3 (05:48):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (05:49):
Let's take some phone calls. Oh, I get these all
the time too, Hey Todd, welcome. What can I do
for you?

Speaker 4 (06:00):
Hi? How's it going to a?

Speaker 3 (06:01):
Yes, sir, what can I do for you?

Speaker 4 (06:03):
I got a quick question? Uh, a financial institute, in
the institution that I am with, I did a transaction
not too long ago.

Speaker 3 (06:12):
And by the way, are you on to speak your
phone by any chance? No, I'm not, okay, just weird,
you know. I always get these hassles.

Speaker 2 (06:19):
Okay, a financial institution and you switched to another financial institution?

Speaker 3 (06:23):
Do I have that right?

Speaker 4 (06:25):
No?

Speaker 3 (06:26):
Okay?

Speaker 4 (06:27):
I did a Uh. I did a transaction at my
institution okay, and it wasn't correct. So I called and
told them that they had to redo it, and she said,
no problem. Well in the me in the meantime, uh,
In the process of this, I was with my souther

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in law, and I didn't have any chance to answer
the phone, so they called me and they failed to
hang up their end of the phone. Well, on that
recording that I have on my phone, I was called,
you know some of the splitit words and some derogatory
remarks toward me.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Yes, Well do I.

Speaker 4 (07:07):
Have a case where I could say something to it
about this?

Speaker 3 (07:11):
Well, you can certainly say something to them.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yeah, you know, you call them up and say look
what you did, and you guys are a bunch of
bastards and this is what happens and I don't appreciate
it behind my back. Do you have a case for slander?
You do not, because how have you been damaged? You
haven't been, And is it a case of slander per se?
It is not, And if there were, there's still no damages.

Speaker 4 (07:36):
You know.

Speaker 2 (07:36):
So some guy turned around and called you a name
and did it to a co worker?

Speaker 3 (07:40):
You know, have you been damaged? They stop you from
doing business? Did they publish it? They did? They put
it on the internet. They didn't. So the quick answer
is no, because.

Speaker 4 (07:51):
You know they discussed in an office a bunch of
different employees.

Speaker 3 (07:56):
Yeah, I know.

Speaker 2 (07:56):
Fine, Okay, now what okay, and you're gonna argue. My
reputation has been destroyed. It's been damaged. I can't do
any business any place. This's gotten in the way for
me ever, working with any business institution ever. Come on, Yeah,
someone bad Monthew at the company and did it with
a coworker, you know, I mean.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Should they have done it?

Speaker 5 (08:17):
No?

Speaker 3 (08:17):
Is it professional? Of course not.

Speaker 2 (08:19):
So call the company and go hey, let me tell
you I overheard this. And you've you know, you've got
an idiot working for you. And is this the kind
of person you want working for you?

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Yeah? Yeah, you don't. No, you know, you don't. You
know you don't.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
All right, it was that a good question? No, not particularly. Okay,
we're coming back. This is Handle on the Law. Okay, Hi,
handle here. It is a Saturday morning pH number eight
hundred five to zero one five three four and welcome back.
Handle on the Law Marginal legal Advice. Hello, Anna, you're up?

(08:56):
Welcome good morning or not?

Speaker 3 (09:00):
Yes? Go ahead?

Speaker 6 (09:00):
Hi, Hi Bill. I need to know if my older
father has the right to abruptly stop sending support to
me as a disabled adult.

Speaker 3 (09:13):
You know, how long have.

Speaker 2 (09:14):
You been Well, let me ask you this, how long
have you been disabled.

Speaker 6 (09:20):
Well since I was in my early teens. Okay, I
was not diagnosed correctly until I was twenty nine.

Speaker 3 (09:29):
Okay, what's your and what's your disability?

Speaker 6 (09:34):
I have bipolar disorder and sometimes it's pretty bad.

Speaker 3 (09:39):
Right do you live? Do you live alone?

Speaker 6 (09:44):
I have a cat and I have a boyfriend.

Speaker 2 (09:47):
Okay, do you Well, here's the problem. Okay, this is
a California live. If you could not live alone and
you need help, you were disabled the point where you
couldn't finction.

Speaker 6 (10:00):
My boyfriend does not support me.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Okay, I understand. I understand now that you would have
to prove to the court. Okay, let's say dad just
cut you off. Then you get to prove to the
court you are so disabled that you need care and
you cannot live alone walking in with your cat and
your boyfriend. The court is gonna say. And you don't
sound that disabled to me. You know, you really don't
meet the line where you just can't deal with it

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at all. So the answer is no, your dad, Your
dad's off the hook.

Speaker 3 (10:33):
How long has he been? How long has he been
supporting you?

Speaker 6 (10:39):
Pretty long time?

Speaker 2 (10:43):
Many years, many years. Well, here's the bad news. Okay,
I'm gonna give you good news and bad news. Okay,
the bad news is he doesn't have to support you.
And the good news is I'm telling you he doesn't
have to support you.

Speaker 3 (10:58):
How does that do? Oh? I love this, Julie, Hi, Julie, welcome.
Oh Hi.

Speaker 7 (11:08):
I bought an eleven thousand dollars a mess back from
a quote unquote reliable consignment store. After three four years,
the mechanism on the back did not work, so I
actually took it to Armes store to have them fixed.

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After they inspected it, they said it's counterfeit. I contacted
the I contacted the consignment store and I told them
that this is counterfeit and they said, no, it's not,
because our experts inspected it back and it's real. I
went back to the air mess store and they told

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me that they inspected it again and they said due
to the mechanism, the leather and everything else, it were
positive that it's counterfeit. The side's getting refunded. Well, they're
fighting me on this. Besides getting my money back if

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they agreed to do that, are what's my recourse?

Speaker 4 (12:17):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (12:18):
Just getting your money back?

Speaker 2 (12:20):
So you thought you were you had a legitimate bag
and original. Uh, but you really had a counterfeit so
your life has changed traumatically. You can't say you have nightmares,
you can't function, you can't drive because it turned out
to be a counterfeit bag.

Speaker 3 (12:38):
Is that what you're going to want? What's your argument?
What's your argument?

Speaker 7 (12:43):
Well, I want them to reimburse me.

Speaker 2 (12:45):
No, I understand, I get that. Okay, And but you
want more than that?

Speaker 7 (12:49):
You said, well, I want to know if I can
collect the interest.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
No, no, no, you can't. And now let's talk about
the consignment store. When you said reliable consignment store, what
does that mean?

Speaker 3 (13:02):
Reliable?

Speaker 7 (13:03):
It means that they have their own experts. It's a
very famous consignment store. Okay, they have millions of followers
and millions of dollars.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
Okay, Well, let me ask you this. Did you sign
an agreement with the consignment store?

Speaker 7 (13:18):
What kind of agreement?

Speaker 3 (13:19):
No, an agreement?

Speaker 2 (13:20):
You know, you put up the they put up the bag,
You buy the bag, and did you sign I mean
they didn't just hand it to you and you paid
eleven thousand dollars.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
There has to be there has to be some writing,
isn't there?

Speaker 2 (13:34):
No?

Speaker 3 (13:34):
No? Wow, Okay, Uh, you're gonna have a touch.

Speaker 7 (13:38):
Stores don't give you anything, right, okay, fair enough.

Speaker 2 (13:42):
And their position and their position is going to be
there is no guarantee. There is nothing written we unless
you can prove that they guaranteed that it's legitimate.

Speaker 3 (13:55):
But didn't you say what consignment stores do? They don't guarantee,
They don't guarantee.

Speaker 2 (14:00):
All they say is we are putting this up on
assignment to sell it, and you've got to figure it out.

Speaker 7 (14:08):
No, it's guaranteed. It's on their site. It says we
have our own experts.

Speaker 2 (14:12):
Okay, And they say, we have our own experts and
the legitimacy is guaranteed. Correct, Yes, okay, Well, then that
is a writing, you know, in terms of the way they're.

Speaker 7 (14:23):
You're talking about just personally, like writing to me personally.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
No, I understand.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Okay, so you relied on that. Yeah, you've got some
reliance issues. But then you've got a real problem with
the statute limitations because now it's four years later and
I know that you know you're being frauded, but you
can't come back years later. That's very difficult to do that.
And I understand you're stuck between a rock and a
hard place. I didn't know until it broke. Okay, then

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what if it breaks thirty years later, forty years later,
so you got that same problem. Oh, before I take
a break, I want to tell you about lawsuits. Right,
And I get calls all the time on Handle on
the Law on this show, and I'll get personal injury calls.
I'll get calls like this one breach of contract, warranty calls.

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Sometimes right Parian calls, right Parian rights. There's a creak
running between my property and my neighbors. Who has a
right for the water? Okaynts me. But I also get
a lot of calls for personal injury and car accidents.
And if you've been in an accent and it's not
your fault and you've been injured, let me suggest going
to handle on the Law dot com.

Speaker 3 (15:32):
And here's why.

Speaker 2 (15:33):
Handle on the Law dot Com is a referral service
where the attorneys are vetted and on top of that,
if there's an issue, I make the phone call to
the attorney. That's how you know you're dealing with a
good attorney. There are plenty of attorneys that run ads
out there, and some of them are really good, by
the way, and some of them not so how do
you know, Well, you go to handle on the Law

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dot com and talk to one of our lawyers. That's
Handle on the Law dot Com. This is Handle on
the Law.

Speaker 8 (16:03):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six FORTYFI Handle here.

Speaker 2 (16:11):
It is a Saturday morning, eight hundred five two zero
one five three four. Welcome back Handle on the Law
Marginal Legal Advice. Hello Catherine, Welcome to the program. What
can I do for you?

Speaker 9 (16:27):
Yeah, my house is twenty five years old. I had
a new roof put on. They took off the old roof.
Had a new roof put on in twenty twenty four.
In May. I'm being told by my handyman that not
all a roof was replaced. And I've talked to the
roofer and he's gotten very nasty, and I want to
know what my recourse should I assume?

Speaker 3 (16:45):
How may well?

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Let's do this. I mean the first thing, I've done
this a million times. First thing, you got to figure
out how to fix the roof to where it should
be fixed, the money you paid, what should it buy?
And you should I am assuming that you were charged
for a new roof he didn't finish putting in a
new roof. Do you have any idea what's going to
cost to have the job run properly?

Speaker 9 (17:08):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
And the you have to make the cost. It doesn't
matter what the cost was, It doesn't matter. I mean
it could be nineteen thousand, could be one hundred and
ninety thousand dollars. The point is, yeah, whatever portion it is,
you have to find out the price of what it's
going to cost to bring the roof up to up
to the level it should be, which means a new
roof and or repairing that part of the roof that

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wasn't installed, or putting in that part of the roof
that wasn't installed.

Speaker 3 (17:35):
So that's the first thing gotten.

Speaker 2 (17:36):
You know, get a bid and it's going to cost
I don't know, two thousand and four thousand and eight
thousand dollars, and you just win Small Claims court. But
you have to have someone come in and say the
roof is not properly installed, because he's going to say
the roof is going to say, oh, I did it perfectly,
and you're going to say, no, you didn't, and then
the roof was going to say in front of the

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Small Claims judge, well, let me ask you how many
roofs have you installed?

Speaker 3 (18:02):
Catherine? So how do you know?

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Well, I have pictures here, and if it's clear cut,
you've got any you've got a case. But the problem
with these kinds of cases is you don't come amed
with an armed with enough ammunition.

Speaker 3 (18:20):
That's the issue.

Speaker 2 (18:21):
So make sure your all your dots are crossed and
your tea's are the dotted or whatever the hell that
phrase is all about.

Speaker 3 (18:32):
All right, Jeff, you're up. Welcome to handle on the law.

Speaker 10 (18:37):
Good morning, Yes, sir, I have a very simple, yeah,
simple and complicated situation here. Six months ago, I was
illegally arrested by the Sheriff's Department. And to make a
long story short, they have these what they call best cams.
I believe they record the video.

Speaker 3 (18:55):
Yes, their body yes.

Speaker 10 (18:58):
Body cams. Okay, Well, it ends up that they assaulted me,
they vandalized my car, they gave me a heart attack,
they got me fired from my job, and all that
is on the first CD of from the vestcam video,
which I finally obtained from the LPD law Office of
a Public Defender after four months.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
It shows you have a heart attack on that bodycam
and it shows it shows all of that. It shows
you lost your job on the bodycam. So I guess
your boss showed up while you were being assaulted and said,
and you're fired on top of that?

Speaker 3 (19:33):
Do I have that right? No?

Speaker 10 (19:35):
My boss found out on the internet.

Speaker 3 (19:37):
Got it?

Speaker 8 (19:38):
You?

Speaker 3 (19:38):
Who got it?

Speaker 7 (19:39):
Oh?

Speaker 3 (19:39):
Okay?

Speaker 2 (19:40):
When you say that you were arrested illegally, what were
you arrested for?

Speaker 3 (19:45):
As they're arguing the arrest.

Speaker 10 (19:48):
Okay, I was arrested for what they wrote on the
traffic citation, which was parking on Main Street, which is
of course a lie.

Speaker 3 (19:55):
I was driving, Okay, so they arrested you.

Speaker 2 (19:58):
So there it is on the ticket or on the record,
and that is Jeff was parking illegally and we arrested
him for parking illegally, not resisting a police officer, not cooperating,
just parking.

Speaker 3 (20:11):
And that's what you were arrested for.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
I gotta tell you, I've never heard all my years
of doing this, I've never heard of someone being arrested
for a parking violation.

Speaker 10 (20:21):
That's why he immediately up the charge to felony. But
of course they had to delete that.

Speaker 2 (20:26):
Okay, So that's a felony parking violation. That's another one
I really don't know about where. I mean, felonies, you
go to jail time and I've never heard of jail
time for a parking violation.

Speaker 10 (20:40):
That's why they removed it, because.

Speaker 3 (20:41):
They oh, they removed it. So what did so they
dropped the case?

Speaker 10 (20:46):
No, what they did was they served me in jail
in their filthy hell hole for four days.

Speaker 2 (20:50):
Okay, I understand, but okay, but they dropped the case.
So your arrest was for that parking violation?

Speaker 10 (20:59):
Well so according to the philsey liar, okay, sure the.

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Rest Okay, Well, what way the filthy liar of a
sheriff actually put down that the arrest was for parking?

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Jeff, do you understand what that sounds like?

Speaker 2 (21:12):
I do any idea?

Speaker 3 (21:15):
Yeah? It does. It sounds ridiculous. It sounds like you're
a fruit loop.

Speaker 2 (21:19):
I mean, I've been doing this for decades, but you know,
thank you for a new call that I've never had,
and that is Bill, I was parking illegally. They arrested
me and charged me for a felony. Boy, I have
to look up the parking violation, the city code, the
vehicle code to see where parking is an arrest and

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a felony on top of that gets good, gets really good.
So don't go away. This is Handle on the Law KF.
I handled here on Saturday morning.

Speaker 3 (21:53):
We have lines open.

Speaker 2 (21:55):
The number is eight hundred five two zero one five
three four. Eight hundred five five two zero one five
three four. So if you have a want to call in,
now is a good time to do it. Eight hundred
five two zero one five three four. Hello Tricia, welcome

(22:15):
to Handle on the lad right.

Speaker 10 (22:17):
Yes, thank you, thank you.

Speaker 5 (22:19):
I live in a small community. It's a HAA. It's
a condo in Carlsbad, California, and we have issues with
the neighbors next door. They have invasive bamboo leaves that
are getting in all of our yards. We also have
an invasive vine that comes up on our walls. Now
the HAA just contacted me back in November that I

(22:42):
need to do something about the walls. But the walls
of the outside of the condo in the yard are
part of a structure. They shouldn't be my responsibility because
we're part of a well.

Speaker 2 (22:55):
Hold on a minute part of a structure. Where is
the structure, what kind of structure and whose property is
the structure?

Speaker 5 (23:04):
On Okay. The structure is on my property. It's the building.
It also, we are a two story condo, so the
leaves are actually the invasive leaves are on the upper
part of Okay.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Hold on, invasive Okay, invasive leaves.

Speaker 3 (23:23):
It's not a vine. It's just okay, I'm a little confused.
You have to be a little more specific about that.

Speaker 2 (23:28):
Okay, sorry, anything that's invasive, I know are vines that.

Speaker 3 (23:32):
Go up walls.

Speaker 5 (23:33):
Correct, it is a vine. Okay, no, no, no, it's
a vine and it has crept itself way onto the structure.

Speaker 3 (23:43):
Where did it come from? Where? Okay, where did it
come from? Tritia? Where did this invasive vine come.

Speaker 5 (23:48):
From the next story yard, the garden. The people that
live next door, they're not part of the condo. They
have their own home.

Speaker 2 (23:57):
Oh okay, all right, So the ho A doesn't have
much to new about that. If that wall is your wall,
unless it's a common wall, and it doesn't sound like kind.

Speaker 5 (24:08):
Of it's a common wall between me and that neighbor.

Speaker 2 (24:11):
That yeah, yeah, that's a tough way. Wait a sec
you and the neighbor the properties are joined, yes, then
how do you know? How do you know that the
vine is growing up between the two buildings.

Speaker 5 (24:26):
If I've lived you since two thousand and six, and
this is the second owner of the house, and this vine,
it just it creeps up and if you don't cut
it back when you need to cut it back, it
just keeps going.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
And okay, hang on a minute.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
But I'm confused. I'm really confused. Vine going up the wall.
The wall is connected to the wall of the neighbor.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
If the wall is connected, where is the vine?

Speaker 3 (24:58):
Okay? Do you understanding. I'm having a hard time understanding this.
Maybe let me.

Speaker 5 (25:03):
Takay no, no, no, no, let me paint a better picture
for you. So I have a wall, there's a wall,
common wall that comes between me and the neighbor. The
vine comes up over the wall and it creeps on
top of Okay.

Speaker 3 (25:21):
Got it that okay, coming up over the wall? Got it? Okay?
And it goes up the wall. Okay, I got it.

Speaker 2 (25:28):
All right, I understand. Thank you for making that a
little clearer. All right, So is the ho What is
the hoa telling you?

Speaker 5 (25:36):
They told me that it's my responsibility, right take care
of the structure of the vine that's coming up against
the wall. So I'm in the middle of doing that.
They're not harassing me, but they did send me a
notice that it's my responsibility. However, in the past they
have taken care of that because it's part of the stry.

Speaker 3 (25:55):
Okay, so they change it now, do they have a right? No,
do they have a right to change it?

Speaker 2 (25:58):
And the cnrs, Yeah, to look at what the what
the CCNR say. You know, ccnrs give them a lot
of a lot of power. Now under new California law,
the only thing they can do is nail you for
one hundred dollars fine. And this is the HOA one time.
That's it. So whatever happens, you get nailed for one

(26:20):
hundred bucks. I mean, the law is kind of crazy,
but that's what the law is. So, you know, pay
one hundred dollars and the HOA leaves you alone. Now,
as far as the structure is concerned, if it's being
damaged by your next door neighbor, who has nothing to
do with HOA, it's a simple lawsuit against your next
door neighborhood.

Speaker 3 (26:37):
That's all.

Speaker 2 (26:37):
Hey, your vine is going up my wall and I
want it removed. And if you don't remove it, I'm
going to find someone who is going to remove it.
Here's the cost two hundred eight hundred two thousand dollars,
and here's your bill. And you're responsible, and you take pictures,
you make sure that you have the proof, and you're done.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
What are they gonna say?

Speaker 6 (26:56):
No?

Speaker 4 (26:56):
Vine?

Speaker 2 (26:57):
Now, how do you prove that it came from their yard?
That's a little different. I think you got to do
that too, God forbid you gotta. You know, when you
go to court, you actually have to prove your case.
I know that's a tough one.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
You know.

Speaker 2 (27:15):
You just argue and make an allegation. It doesn't work
that way. Yeah, it doesn't work that way. This is
Handle on the Law.

Speaker 8 (27:26):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty
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