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October 11, 2025 35 mins
Handel on the Law. Marginal Legal Advice.

A caller was involved in a no-fault car accident 6 months ago that was 100% the other driver’s fault, and their insurance wants to settle. Should she get a lawyer or handle it herself? Also, and listener is wondering, if you say something about someone and it is not a lie, is it still defamation or slander? 
And a listener’s friend's dad passed away, and his siblings claim he was cut out of the will but aren't sending a copy of the will, so what does Bill recommend? 

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Five AM six forty a Bill Handle and good morning.

Speaker 3 (00:13):
Our number two of the Legal Show.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Actually pretty generous, and I'm pretty generous in calling it
the Legal show, sort of kind of the legal show
here until eleven o'clock today, and then I still take
phone calls after the show off the airbell. I'll talk
you about that later on. And the phone number. We
do have a few lines open because top of the
hour always a good plate, good time, best time to call.

(00:38):
Eight hundred five two zero one five three four. Eight
hundred five two zero one five three four. That is
the number to call, and you will get in. And
I'm pretty quick sometimes with these phone calls, so we
zip through them and you're not gonna be waiting forever.
Eight hundred five to two zero one five three four.

(01:02):
Welcome to Handle on the Law, Marginal legal Advice where
I tell you you have absolutely no case. Now my
morning through Friday show, of which I do Monday through
Friday locally here at KFI. One of the topics, and

(01:22):
it's a general talk show. I don't talk much about
the law. I talk about everything else. One of the
topics that has been gone going. One of the themes
is how crazy Robert Robert Kennedy Junior is. And why
do I talk about how crazy is? Because he is crazy,
that's why. And his latest little sojourn is the connection

(01:44):
between tail and All and autism. Everything seems to be
connected to autism. Certainly vaccines. He's an anti vaxer or
an anti or a vaccine skeptic. Actually he used to
be virulently anti vaccine. Now he's come back a little
bit and softened to stance, but not really. I mean,

(02:05):
everybody knows where he is. Okay, So now we have
tail and all connected to autism. Here's another one, and
this is a great one. He's expanded his crusade against
against autism. And here is his premise. Boys who were

(02:28):
circumcised were twice as likely to be diagnosed with autism later.
There it is now it's circumcision, and he quotes two
studies as so children who are circumcised early as opposed
to later, have doubled the rate of autism. He said
this October ninth at a cabinet meeting. And it's highly

(02:49):
likely because they were given to tailand all. So we
don't know if it's the taile and all part of
it or the autism part of it, but both seem
to do it now being of the Jewish persuasion, you
know clearly I am circumcised. About now fifty percent of
the boys in America are circumcised. Used to be about

(03:11):
eighty percent, and that is dropping dropping. I have no
idea why circumcision has gone down, down, down. Maybe it's
this interest in anteaters that everybody now has. I have
no idea. But the bottom line is the health experts
will tell you that circumcision is healthier than non circumcision.

(03:36):
That is a given if you look at all those studies.
What Robert Kennedy does is a great time with studies.
You know, for example, the anti vaxxers they point to
prove autism is connected to vaccines. There was one one
study by a doctor by the name of Wakefield, and
he came up with all of these figures that later

(03:59):
on were debunked. He made them up, and he lost
his license to practice medicine. And that is the basis
of vaccines and autism. And there have been dozens and
dozens of studies that have said exactly the opposite the

(04:21):
anti vaxers, now the anti circumcisioners. And just a quick one.
You know, obviously you know that I was circumcised because
I am Jewish, and I remember and that's it. Eight days.
I mean, that's in our religion. You do this at
exactly eight days. And I remember looking down and wow,

(04:44):
I was so upset. I slapped the doctor because this
wasn't good. And he's one of those things where you
can always take off more, but you can't add real problem.

Speaker 3 (04:57):
All right, here we go. We have some phone calls.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
James. Let's start with you. Hello, James.

Speaker 4 (05:04):
Okay, small claims court situation. I haven't gone, but the
situation is in the state of Arizona. Like most states,
when you sell a property and you have septic it
has to be inspected by the air like environmental quality
of the state, which it was. I bought the property
approximately a year ago. The seller pays for it. They

(05:25):
hire the inspection, the inspector, and what the what it
entails is pumping the septic tank and doing a physical
visual inspection and certifying it. It's not a trivial certification.
You cannot close unless you get the certification. Fast forward,
I decided to sell the property a year That was
done almost a year ago, just to the date, almost

(05:47):
fast forward. I'm selling the property. I hired as the seller.
I hired an inspector. He told me the tank has
a physical crack in it, and he's willing to and
he uses video. He dropped, he sit and then put
the video down there.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
As opposed to as opposed to jumping in there and
doing a physical inspection of a septic tank.

Speaker 4 (06:08):
Now you're not required to do it's it's not it's
it's you're not required to do a visual.

Speaker 2 (06:14):
Yeah, okay, so this is just okay, this is just
an extra added attraction, the visual.

Speaker 4 (06:19):
Correct because he does, I consider him. I considered the
second guy that I hired to be more professional in
the first guy. So he provided me with video evidence
stating that the tank actually has a physical crack in
there and it's going to cost seventeen hundred dollars to repair.
And I have to you cannot you cannot sell the
property unless see it's certified. So he's going to do

(06:41):
the repair. So I called the first guy that that
did it for the previous sellers and explain the situation,
and he basically told me to pound sand, and I
told him I was going to sew on.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
Wait a minute, way, wait, wait, wait, wait, you called
the first guy for what What was the call about
the second time around?

Speaker 4 (06:58):
Because the second guy said, based on his twenty five
to twenty eight years of doing this business, that he
can guarantee that crack was in there a year ago, and.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
That okay, right, okay, so it was before Okay, So
that crack was in before you bought the property.

Speaker 3 (07:14):
Okay, So the first guy said.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
That he can't certify that it was in before you
bought the property. By the way, do both of them
say there's a crack in the wall of the septic tank?

Speaker 4 (07:28):
No, the first guy, I don't. The previous sellers, the
first guy will call him the first guy. In my opinion,
he all he I'm not even sure he pumped the tank,
which is required. I think he's even though he certified
by the state to do this work.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
Okay, So what's this point? What I don't understand? Tell
me about this pound sand business? You called him up
for what I called them up to?

Speaker 4 (07:53):
Explain? I hired your competitor. It's a local. It's a local.

Speaker 2 (07:58):
No, I understand, but you know what, okay?

Speaker 4 (08:01):
Him, And I said to him that I don't believe
you did an inspection correctly the first I see.

Speaker 2 (08:07):
Okay, all right, so what's your c I got it? Okay,
So you paid money for an inspection.

Speaker 4 (08:12):
Yeah, so you're confused.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Seventeen dollars for what? For what?

Speaker 4 (08:18):
James, he has to repair the crack in the tank,
and the way he does that he digs around the
perimeter and he puts hydraulic cement on the crack to
feel the crack.

Speaker 2 (08:28):
And I don't understand. So where's the seventeen hundred dollars here?

Speaker 4 (08:33):
I believe the first guy because of his lack of
due diligence inspecting the tank. I'm I'm I'm paying for
repair that I'm that he should have found when I
bought the property. That's my contention.

Speaker 2 (08:45):
How do you, okay, how do you determine? And your opinion?
Of course, you have no expertise at all in septic
tank repairs. It's just your opinion. So that's going to
fly the judg You're gonna look at this. Oh yeah,
so it's your opinion, James, far more than what an
expert is saying. So let's start with that one. Did
you pay him fourteen hundred dollars to repair?

Speaker 4 (09:07):
I did, okay?

Speaker 2 (09:09):
And so you're saying, in your opinion the repair.

Speaker 4 (09:13):
Was in the second in the guy that I hire,
his opinion, not my opinion.

Speaker 2 (09:18):
Okay, got it all right? So you want to sue?
This is so complicated. So you want to sue the
first guy?

Speaker 4 (09:22):
Right, you got it?

Speaker 2 (09:24):
Okay, So you're gonna take him to court for fourteen
hundred dollars. Second guy says he shouldn't have done it
or he did it wrong, and first guy says, yes,
I did it correctly.

Speaker 4 (09:37):
That's the question.

Speaker 2 (09:39):
It depends. It depends. It shakes out which one the
judge is going to believe that's it? Which one is
the judge is going to believe. You have two certified people.
One says one thing, one says another. I shouldn't paid
the fourteen hundred dollars, Yes you should have. Okay, there's
the judge. If I if I'm the judge, I'd flip

(10:00):
a coin. Where else are you going to go with that? Huh? Absolutely,
no idea. This is handle on the law. They have
five AM, six forty handle here on a Saturday morning,
a number eight hundred five two zero one five three four.

Speaker 3 (10:18):
It's eight hundred and five to two zero one five
three four.

Speaker 2 (10:21):
Oga. Hello, Oga, welcome to handle on the law.

Speaker 5 (10:26):
Yes, hih so. About six two seven months ago, I
was in a car accident, not my fault, one hundred
percent on my fault. The other party's taken one hundred
percent responsibility and their insurance has Then they're trying to
settle with me, and I wasn't ready to settle. I'm
ready to settle now. But my question is this bill.

(10:48):
I have several health issues. I've been seeing pain management,
and I have our A, I have ostroporosis, and my
my thing is this before the that couldn't happen. I
was getting ready to have It's not lasic but something
called reflective let lens exchange. And because of the accident,

(11:12):
my neurologist said, absolutely, you cannot have it anymore. Because
of the accident.

Speaker 3 (11:18):
Okay, you know, all right, let me ask you this.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Okay, yes, outside of that, how badly were you injured
as a result of the accident itself?

Speaker 5 (11:29):
My right side, my hands, my right hand is very numb.
I had to get.

Speaker 2 (11:35):
Okay, how much, how much and how much has the
insurance company offered you.

Speaker 5 (11:41):
They have en offered me. I haven't talked to them.
I told them I'll be ready to talk to you
when I'm done with my medical.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
All right, So what's your question? Get a lawyer?

Speaker 5 (11:50):
Should I handle this myself?

Speaker 2 (11:52):
No? No, absolutely not. It's you're way over your league.
I mean, think about this. There are medical issues in
were they exacerbated by the accident. What is the prognosis
as a result of the accident. Will you ever be
able to get that refractive surgery which is going to
impact your life? I mean you're talking some really complicated

(12:15):
stuff that you have no idea how to deal with. Uh,
they're going to have an adjuster on the other side
who is going to offer you money far less than
what the case is worth. Oh, you need a lawyer,
so desperately go to handle on the law dot com. Uh.
Those are p I lawyers that I have set up

(12:36):
and there and they're they've been vetted, and Uh, I
scream if there's a problem, and at least talk to
them and get an opinion, because that's worth it. Handle
on the law dot com. Whatever you do. You don't
even talk to the insurance company. You go to a lawyer.

Speaker 5 (12:53):
I've done that.

Speaker 2 (12:54):
Yeah, you want to do that, you want to do that.
Do not even talk to the insurance company. You need
someone to represent you. So go to the website, you
go to handle on the law dot com and talk
to them. And believe me, you've you've done the right
you would do the right thing before talking and before settling.
I get calls bill. They offered me three thousand dollars

(13:16):
and I took it and I said, that's great. That
was worth twenty five thousand dollars. And how do you
feel now? So yeah, go to the website, and good
for you for calling. Now that's a complicated medical issue
when you think about it, those damages, especially when we
talk about prognosises and prognosi and you can't get certain

(13:36):
surgeries that you use. Yeah, it's pretty complicated. Steve Hi, Steve, welcome, Steve.

Speaker 4 (13:44):
You're right.

Speaker 6 (13:45):
Yeah, this is just stird forward. The bigal question, no
specific answer them. If someone said, if you say someone
about so long bad but as one hundred true, there's
not a lie, then there is no uh defamation.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
That's correct, that's correct. There is no defamation. So when
you take your bar exam, Steve, and they ask you
that question, You'll be just fine. Oh, Lisa, Lisa, Hello, Lisa,
Hi Hi.

Speaker 7 (14:24):
I was calling regarding kind of a fat situation my son,
Beyonce's grandmother. She got it by a dog. Anyway, she
went and checked it because it wasn't healing, and they
found she has rukeini and she.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Did you say she got hit by a dog or
got bit by a dog?

Speaker 7 (14:43):
He got bit Okay.

Speaker 2 (14:44):
I was wondering if the dog was driving, and I
was going to go, that's an incredible dog. Okay. So
she gets bit by a dog and she has leukemia
and it won't heal right because right, okay, fair enough?

Speaker 7 (14:56):
And she has and she has very ungrateful kids and
she doesn't want her kids to have anything to do
with it. So she asked her granddaughter, which is my sense, Beyonce,
I want you and Chase to buy the house. Okay,
what is it's uncomfortable to say? Okay, well, can we
hurry and get this done before she passes because she
has very greedy The grandma has greedy kids, and she
don't want to know what is the best scenario? And

(15:18):
is quick claim still around?

Speaker 2 (15:19):
Yes? Quit claim is still yeah? Quit claiming, go ahead.

Speaker 7 (15:26):
She has been doing reverse mortgage on this house. It's
got about five hundred and fifty thousand on it. It's
worth about nine hundred thousand. What would be the best
scenario for them to okay?

Speaker 2 (15:39):
The best scenario is, first of all, you called it.
You want to do it before she died, Before she dies,
because it's pretty hard to buy property from a dead person.
They can have a very hard time signing the documents.
Although there's an estate so it can be done. You
want to do it before she dies. That's for starters.

(16:01):
The grandkids don't have a right to anything. She can
sell the house, she can give it away. As long
as she's in her right mind, she can do whatever
the hell she wants with that property. So that's the
easy one. The one that's more difficult is the reverse mortgage.
They have to get their money back, and so you
contact the reverse mortgage people, let them know what you're doing,

(16:23):
list the house or have the sale of the house
go through, and the just arrange with the reverse mortgage people.
I mean they have a lean on the house and
I don't know whatever terms there are, but as long
as they get the money, you'll be fine, so just
do it.

Speaker 3 (16:39):
Do it before she dies. Okay, do it before she dies.

Speaker 7 (16:43):
Okay, So a quick claim is maybe the best way
to Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (16:48):
You can't do it as Yeah you could just to
quit claim, but you're gonna have someone's gonna sue, because
when you have ungrateful grandkids, they end up suing.

Speaker 3 (16:58):
I would talk to a real estate agent or.

Speaker 2 (17:03):
Just have someone. I mean, you can do a quit claim,
but I'm just thinking, would I do a quit claim,
just a simple quit claim? Yeah, you probably can, but
there should be a written agreement that's connected to the
quit claim deed that everybody signs specifically saying I hate
my grandkids. I don't want them to have a you know,
just so it stops them from suing to unravel it,

(17:24):
which they will do because that's what family members tend
to do. Yeah, talk to an attorney, any general attorney,
it doesn't matter, and put in a written agreement in
addition to the quit claim deed. Now, let me tell
you about if you hurt, if you live in chronic
pain that's pain all the time, or you know someone

(17:44):
who does, let me suggest you listen to the Pain
Game podcast, because that's what the Pain Game podcast is about.
People have lived with, or dealt with, or have treated
those living in chronic pain, and sometimes have lost people
to chronic pain. The host, Lindsay Soprano, deals with this
because she suffers from chronic pain, and so she started

(18:07):
this podcast not only to help other people, to help
herself because here is what she has discovered, and that
is giving pain purpose. I know that sounds strange, but
giving pain purpose is the way that she and so
many people deal with their pain. And every episode ends
with a message of hope. You can listen to the

(18:29):
Pain Game Podcast wherever you listen to podcasts. The Pain
Game Podcast you can follow on social at the Pain
Game Podcast. It is a revelation in terms of dealing
with chronic pain. You got season four just about to start.
Listen to the Pain Game Podcast. This is Handle on

(18:50):
the Law.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.

Speaker 2 (18:58):
I am six. Don't handle here. It is a Saturday morning.
Phone numbers. We do have some lines open. It is
eight hundred five two zero one five three four. Eight
hundred five two zero one five three four. That's a
number to call and lines are open. Welcome back. Handle

(19:19):
on the law marginal legal advice. Hi Franny, you're up,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 8 (19:25):
Yes, my neighbor moved and in the process of moving
they were having the big, huge storage boxes hauled in.
The last one that backed in a storage box, he
ran over a plate in the ground and destroyed it.

(19:46):
I think it's it's for communications. And going on two
weeks and nobody has done anything.

Speaker 2 (19:55):
Hi contacted You contacted them? Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead.

Speaker 8 (20:00):
I contacted our city and was told that is not
their responsibility because it is not a utility box, is
a communication box. So when the driver came to pick
up the box, I showed it to him. He took

(20:21):
a picture of it and sent it to his boss.
So his boss is talking to him and he tells then,
and the guy says, wait a minute, let's talk to her.
So he puts me on the phone. I told him
what's happening, and he says, well, yeah, the owner already
took care of it. He called the city and I

(20:41):
told him, I said, the city is not going to all.

Speaker 2 (20:47):
Right because nothing happened, right.

Speaker 8 (20:51):
Right right, I'm wondering. I'm wondering now if I have
to obtain an attorney. Will they have to pay for it?

Speaker 2 (21:02):
Yeah? No, no, and you don't want to get an attorney.
Attorney's going to cost you far more than just replacing
whatever box there is. You have to simply find out
who did Actually you have to find out how to
repair the box and whether what communications company? If they
say is communications company, you call your provider.

Speaker 3 (21:22):
All right, do you have internet going in? Do you
have a phone line going in? What do you have?

Speaker 2 (21:26):
What service do you use?

Speaker 8 (21:28):
Well, the thing is, I have a serviceman come over
and look at it. He said, it looks like an
old Pacific bill, which, oh, okay, okay, so.

Speaker 2 (21:41):
It does nothing. Okay, it's just a plate in the ground. Okay.
How much are it going to cost you to replace
the plate in the ground. You have to find out
how much it cost you. You got to find out
what's going to cost you to replace a plate in
the ground. A few hundred bucks, and that's what you
sue them for in small claims court. I said, if
these were cased a metal plate, it's all it's a

(22:02):
metal plate.

Speaker 8 (22:04):
Well it was the old one was concrete because it
just broke it.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Okay, So all right, So hang on. So the one
they broke was concrete. That's even easier. You put a
you have a concrete guy come out, You pay a
concrete guy to put in a plate. That'll be a
couple hundred bucks, and then you sue for that. That
one's easy. Do I need a lawyer to replace a
concrete plate that's two by two? Uh? Don't think so.

(22:31):
Let me see you. Oh my icon is always screwing
up on me. Hey, Mark, welcome to handle on the
law heigl.

Speaker 9 (22:39):
I'm calling on behalf of a friend of mine. He
his father recently passed away. He was into his nineties
and he spent the last two years. His father was
in a basically in Alzheimer's memory care facility for the
last two years. So father passed away. Now the brothers
are saying that he was my friend was not included

(23:00):
in the will or the trust?

Speaker 2 (23:01):
Well is there a will? Way? Is there a will
or a trust?

Speaker 9 (23:07):
There is there is? I haven't been able to determine
if it's a will or trust.

Speaker 2 (23:12):
Well, it's easy, but yeah, there is. A will has
to it's a probate and which has to be opened up.
And a will is a public document. Uh, it is
filed with the court. Uh and uh the name of
the document is n Ray, a state of dead person. Okay,
So the fact that he died of Alzheimer's doesn't matters,

(23:34):
not unless he signed a document while he had Alzheimer's.
So now he gets to uh call the brothers and
find out real simply, uh, who's the trustee, who's the executor?
And if they don't tell him something is not kosher
in Denmark. Although I don't know how many people, he's

(23:56):
already done.

Speaker 9 (23:57):
That and they're they're not producing. Yeah, how big of
a state?

Speaker 2 (24:01):
Okay, So all right, so we're back to something not
kosher in Denmark, and very few people keep kosher in Denmark.
But that's besides the point. So something's going on. How
much money thinks involved? Mark?

Speaker 9 (24:11):
You know it's got to be a couple of million millions, Okay, Okay.

Speaker 2 (24:15):
All right, fair enough, Okay, Now there it's enough to
go see a lawyer. You want to see he wants
to go see a probate and a state lawyer who
will write a letter instantly probate in, a state lawyer
who will write a letter to all of the siblings
saying this is a putative beneficiary. That means a beneficiary

(24:37):
that you would think has a claim or was written
in the will or the trust, and we want to
see it. And if they say no, you go to
court and the estate will pay for the defense. As
a matter of fact, the estate will pay or will
pay for his attorney. And you got to do it

(24:57):
because I got to tell you he's based on what
you SA say, he's being screwed. Someone is screwing him. Yep,
So he needs an attorney. That's all. Go talk to
appropate in the state attorney.

Speaker 9 (25:10):
Can he demand the trust itself?

Speaker 2 (25:12):
Or yeah, he demand everything. He demands everything, mark everything,
especially if you're talking about a couple of million dollars.
To state how unusual family members screwing family member out
of money concerning a will or a trust. Boy, I've
never heard that one on this show before. This is
handle on the Law. Hey fine a M six forty

(25:34):
bill handle here. It is a Saturday morning. Another hour
giver take and then I'm going to take phone calls
off the air at the end of the show, but
I'll talk to you about that later. We do have
some lines open eight hundred five two zero one five
three four. The number to call, that's eight hundred five
to zero one five three four. And since we have

(25:58):
lines open, you will get in and hopefully I can
tell you have absolutely no case, although I've been telling
people they have cases today. Man a few Nah, you
got nothing there, but wow, you know, very depressing. Eight
hundred five two zero one five three four. Welcome back, pan,

(26:20):
little froggy handle on the law. Marginal legal advice. Okay, Zach,
you're up. Welcome the handle on the law.

Speaker 3 (26:30):
Yes, sir, I feel about three weeks I feel it's Bill.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
It's Bill. I'm sorry, that's okay. Apologies, Yes, as well,
you share it. Okay.

Speaker 10 (26:40):
I'm a little hard of hearing on the radio, so.

Speaker 2 (26:42):
That's no problem. Jack. You're Jack.

Speaker 3 (26:44):
Jack, You're fine, Okay.

Speaker 10 (26:46):
Thank you, Thank You're welcome. About three weeks ago, I
was physically assaulted on the sidewalk. I was kicked in
the head and ended up going to the police station
and filing a police report and got my CTS and
my X race done at the hospital. Well, not only
not only is there this assault in battery, but I
had come to find out because this attacker, who I

(27:08):
sort of knew, but when I saw who he was.
I had no idea why he wanted to almost kill me.
I almost got hit by a car in the street.
Mind you, I found out that he was told a
slanderous lie about me having an affair with someone that
he knew. And about two weeks later, this story was
even retold by the same person and said, oh, I

(27:31):
even heard it from someone else, so like it must
be true. Well, two weeks later I was literally beaten
to a pulp in the street. And so while this
assailant who attacked me, he lives, you know, he has
special needs and he lives on a couch. So while
I am going to press charges and hopefully get him
some therapy for his mental health issues, I'm wondering if

(27:52):
this slanderous lie that was told can be prosecuted outside
of a civil manner.

Speaker 2 (28:00):
Not really a matter of fact, you're going to have
a tough time suing for that. So someone says that
you're having an affair with someone that's known, someone else says, yeah,
I read it, and it must be true. You know,
you're not going to go any place with that. All
you have is the assault and going against the guy
special needs by what why would you way too nice?

(28:23):
Why because he special needs and lives on a couch.

Speaker 10 (28:26):
And the first thing you say is with special needs.

Speaker 2 (28:29):
Okay, that's why, all right? Got it?

Speaker 10 (28:32):
So my problem was that this individual was slanted during
my name. He said a public he knew that it
was alive.

Speaker 2 (28:39):
Yeah, but you know it's okay. Now what you're not
going to be able to connect the two? And what
damages are you DEMI? Did you lose your job because
of that? Have you been ostracized from the community? Have
you been thrown out of a church because of an accusation?
That isn't true? People do that all the time.

Speaker 10 (29:00):
Well, I felt that the harm, the harm to my reputation,
led to me directly getting assaulted.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
That doesn't matter. That is that one. You're not gonna
be able to prove. Okay, that one, especially with someone
with special needs. That is, you cannot blame he's you know,
Zach is having an affair with someone I know, and
then you're beat up for it. No, that doesn't fly,
or someone says I heard it, therefore it must be true.
That's not enough. That is not enough, Zach.

Speaker 10 (29:27):
The only thing you can.

Speaker 2 (29:28):
Do, no, not really, not really. Everybody is accused of
having affair with people all the time. It's just you know,
that's just a throwaway. It's not enough to end the reputation.
It's not. For example, you are the financial head of
a financial organization and you were accused of embezzlement and

(29:50):
you lose your job. That is defamation, but not but
not what you've got going there. You're just too nice too,
because I mean, I understand you deal with kids.

Speaker 10 (30:00):
The guy who got no money, who's sleeping on.

Speaker 2 (30:02):
That you can do. All you can do is have
them they started it.

Speaker 3 (30:06):
Now you're not going to do that.

Speaker 2 (30:07):
You have to have the guys tossed in prison, which
you're not gonna you know, they're not going to do
special needs, all kinds of defense. Yeah, it's just uh.

Speaker 3 (30:15):
What it really is is just really bad bad luck.

Speaker 8 (30:19):
Uh.

Speaker 2 (30:20):
Maggie, Hi, Maggie, you're up. Welcome to handle on the law.

Speaker 11 (30:24):
Thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 9 (30:26):
Sure.

Speaker 11 (30:27):
I was involved in an auto accident in August this year,
and the other person, woman has admitted that is her responsibility.
I was taken to the hospital. Uh uh, and I
was proven not no bones were injured or anything. It

(30:51):
was all soft tissue and and so on. Anyway, I was.
I was in the er there for a couple of
a couple of days and then and I was sent
home and I seem to be doing okay. But then
on the about the third day I was home, I
suffered tia.

Speaker 3 (31:12):
And what is the tia?

Speaker 11 (31:18):
It's just like a stroke.

Speaker 3 (31:19):
Okay, got it.

Speaker 11 (31:20):
Stroke?

Speaker 2 (31:21):
It doesn't matter a stroke Okay.

Speaker 11 (31:24):
So yeah, it doesn't matter. So anyway, this accident has
proven to totally put me independent of others.

Speaker 2 (31:36):
I am elderly, and yeah, I know you're elderly. How
elderly are you, Maggie?

Speaker 11 (31:43):
How elderly? I'm ninety five years You are good for you?

Speaker 3 (31:47):
You're ninety five and you're still this sharp.

Speaker 2 (31:50):
Wow. Okay, I was gonna make fun of you. But
I can't alone.

Speaker 11 (31:54):
I have lived alone.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
No, I got it.

Speaker 3 (31:57):
I got it.

Speaker 2 (31:57):
So when you say, when you say it has it
it has been proven that your accident caused you to
have a stroke. Who who is saying that?

Speaker 11 (32:09):
No? No, no, no, no, one is saying that. I have
a little medical background and I know a couple of things.

Speaker 2 (32:18):
Okay, and you know what, we got it. Okay, we're
we're out of time. So what's your question.

Speaker 11 (32:26):
My question is should I assue this person?

Speaker 3 (32:30):
No, not for your stroke.

Speaker 2 (32:32):
Not for your stroke.

Speaker 11 (32:34):
No, no, I'm not saying for my stroke, but okay
for taking my total independence away. I either have to
go into a facility, you know, a nursing home. You
either have to go all.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Right, maybe maybe maybe as part of your damages. Maybe, uh,
go to handle on the law dot com. Do you
have a computer?

Speaker 11 (32:54):
I do not.

Speaker 2 (32:55):
Oh, do you know what a computer is?

Speaker 11 (32:57):
Get it one time? I do not.

Speaker 2 (32:58):
Now, okay, you do know what a computer is. Okay,
do you have any friends that have computers? Good? Excellent?
Do you know any friends? Good? What I want you
to do is go to your friend's computer and go
to handle on the Law dot com and you'll talk
to a bunch of personal injury lawyers who are very
very good because you have a fairly complicated case and

(33:20):
the damages are not direct I mean, no broken bones,
You're didn't hit in the head, that sort of thing.
It's one one degree separation. So go to handle on
the Law dot com and that's where you'll get some
good information. Yeah, sometimes you're a little more complicated. Now
talking about injury and pain. If you happen to live

(33:43):
or know someone who lives in chronic pain. Chronic pain
means it's all the time, and in some cases it's
really severe and it is just debilitating.

Speaker 3 (33:53):
So the guests on the show have.

Speaker 2 (33:55):
Lived with, or dealt with, or have treated people living
in chronic pain. There are people who have lost family
members because of chronic pain. So I'm talking about The
Pain Game Podcast. Lindsey Soprano, the host, deals with chronic pain.
She's in chronic pain twenty four to seven and she
created this podcast to not only help other people in

(34:18):
that she helps herself. And every episode ends with a
message of hope. And you'll understand if you listen to
the podcast. The premise is giving pain purpose. I know
that sounds counterintuitive, but that is the way some people
deal with this and maybe you should because what a
way to deal with pain. So listen to podcasts The

(34:40):
Pain Game Podcast, the Pain Game Podcast.

Speaker 3 (34:43):
Wherever you hear podcasts out there.

Speaker 2 (34:46):
You can follow on social media at the Pain Game Podcast.
That's at the Pain Game Podcast and three seasons already.
Season four is on its way The Pain Game Podcast.
This is handle on the Law. You've been listening to
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