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April 26, 2025 • 34 mins
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to kf I Am six forty, the Bill
Handles show on demand on the iHeartRadio f.

Speaker 2 (00:09):
Good morning, it's a Saturday morning.

Speaker 1 (00:12):
And we've got three luscious, delicious hours.

Speaker 2 (00:15):
To go on the show.

Speaker 1 (00:17):
Why because hopefully I get to ruin your life and
if so, telling you you have no case or calling
you a moron or a cretan. And you know we
haven't had enough of those lately. Yeah, we need more
of those. Either people are getting smarter now I'm getting
more patient maybe, or.

Speaker 2 (00:40):
I have a screener.

Speaker 1 (00:41):
I think it's Richie out there today who is becoming
more gracious and well, I mean his job's in jeopardy clearly. Okay,
Now if you have legal questions, and this is how
we start the show. Of course, the show is caller driven,
which means I answer you ask I answer hopefully it's eh,

(01:04):
you got nothing there. Eight hundred five two zero one
five three four is the number two call eight hundred
five two zero one five three four. And last week,
for example, we had what a two hour stretch where
all the lines were full and you couldn't get in.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
You called and it was a busy signal.

Speaker 1 (01:25):
And there are times when you know there's nobody there.
It's one of those things. This is why I don't
take phone calls Monday through Friday on my show, because
you have you rely on people that call in. It's
now certain people can talk for three hours straight and
talk about their field. One of them Dean Dean Sharp,

(01:46):
for example. Uh Dean could do a five hour show
and not take a phone call. I mean his not
His depth of knowledge in his field is extraordinary. And
then there's me, of which my depth of knowledge Wasn't
that terrific? In my field of which I specialized did

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much less.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
Everything else every other field. So feel free to.

Speaker 1 (02:10):
Call eight hundred five two zero one five three four,
and then I'll give you some legal advice and tell
you what I think, and if it's a good case,
I'll refer you out and say, hey, you need a
lawyer on this, And then I do commercials for some lawyers.
Eight hundred five two zero one five thirty four, best time,
top of the hour, always always to call.

Speaker 2 (02:30):
Okay, fair enough, let's do it.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
This is handle on the law, marginal legal advice where
I tell you you have absolutely no case and hopefully
ruin your day if I possibly can.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
I've been telling you, and.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
This is ever since January twentieth, when even before that,
when President Trump became inaugurated, there would be a fight
between the liberals, can conservatives, between Republicans and Democrats, between
Donald Trump and liberal states. Read California, its fight against

(03:11):
President Trump across the board. So President Trump inaugurates his tariffs.
And he, by the way, this is not out of
the blue. He has said for years and years and
years he's in favor of tariffs. He has said tariff.
The word tariff is a beautiful word. I mean, the

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guy believes in what he believes, and so he starts
instituting tariffs. And mainly the fight is between China and
the United States at that point, and it is a
god awful mess.

Speaker 2 (03:43):
This tariff tariff business.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
So the fight across the board California and Trump. Probably
at the poster child of the fighting Trump is California.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
So here's a shocker.

Speaker 1 (03:56):
California became the first state in the United States to
sue the Trump administration over the Trump tariffs. YEP, the
suit marks the first time the first time a state
has feud. And what it does, let me give you
the legal basis for this, it challenges the emergency power
Trump cited giving him authority to enact those tariffs. And

(04:20):
what Trump is citing for him to arbitrarily unilaterally throw
tariffs up, he has to declare an emergency. Now, declaring
an emergency happens almost never, and usually in times of
war is when certain acts were charged were enacted. Well,

(04:40):
what the President has done is declared an emergency, and
I mean declarations of emergency across the board. The migrant issue,
it's a national emergency. Tariffs are a national emergency because
of the economy is we're being screwed by countries all
over the world, which to some extent it is true,

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particularly at China, they have more tariffs on our stuff
than we ever will or ever had on their stuff.
And what he did is he declared those tariffs at
China and other countries put on our goods. He declared
that whole scenario a national emergency, an risks to our security.

(05:22):
Based on that boom, here comes the tariffs, which he
wakes up in the morning and says, it's one hundred
and twenty five percent tariff. Now it's one hundred and
forty five percent tariff. No, I'm bringing it back tariffs
one day, tariffs, no tariffs the next day, and so

(05:43):
it and he can do it.

Speaker 2 (05:45):
How can he can do it? Well?

Speaker 1 (05:47):
Because Congress has given him the power, and the Supreme
Court would normally say and could only in times of
national security, who determines that the president probably has the
right to do. But what the president can do has
the power is every single bill or every single thing

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he's advocating is simply declare a national emergency and boom,
arbitrarily he gets what he wants, with this Supreme Court
probably backing it up. In addition, Congress has given the
president unbridled power. Congress has the ability to say, hey,

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what normally is what we do, we're letting you do,
mister president.

Speaker 2 (06:34):
And that's not Trump.

Speaker 1 (06:35):
This happened during the Clinton years, the Obama years, the
Biden the earlier Trump the presidency, and so the presidency
is getting more and more and more power, not.

Speaker 2 (06:47):
To this extent, not to the point.

Speaker 1 (06:49):
Where his party unilaterally says this, whatever this president wants,
this president does, because we have not had in recent
history anybody owning a party the way he does. So
we'll see what the lawsuit does. Does he have the
authority to enact those tariffs, if I had to guess,

(07:09):
and it's definitely going to go to the stre Supreme
Court if I had to guess.

Speaker 2 (07:13):
Yep, you got it, all right.

Speaker 1 (07:16):
Some phone calls braidon, Hi, Braden.

Speaker 2 (07:20):
Welcome, all right, Bill?

Speaker 3 (07:23):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (07:24):
Yeah? Yes, sir? What can I do for you?

Speaker 4 (07:27):
Yes?

Speaker 5 (07:28):
I have a question about some land that I purchased,
and there we went through title and all of that,
and now that I opened as road to build my house,
there are leans that are popping up way back to nineteen.

Speaker 6 (07:51):
Sixty two actually, okay, And.

Speaker 5 (07:55):
Was curious when we went through the title that to
purchase it, why those weren't brought up and what kind
of recourse I have?

Speaker 1 (08:03):
Okay, Well, they weren't brought up because either the seller
didn't know or the seller knew and decided to screw
you in order to make the sale.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
And then my answer is, well, of course.

Speaker 1 (08:15):
You bought title insurance in which they would all be
brought up, and you did buy title insurance, correct, correct?
Then you just turn over your title company. They take
care of it. That's what title insurance is about.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (08:30):
Hey, you're guaranteeing my title and you're guaranteeing me that
I get free title free in the sense that there
are no leans, free and clear ownership. You just turn
it over to them and go here you go. That's
why God invented insurance. Right, you have health insurance for it, right,

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That's why do you pay for it.

Speaker 2 (08:53):
It's insurance.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
It's like car insurance, it's like home insurance, it's like
medical insurance.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
That's what it's about. And they cover it.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
So I wouldn't even I don't think you do anything
except call the title company and go here you go.
Was a Was there a real estate agent involved?

Speaker 2 (09:14):
No?

Speaker 1 (09:15):
Okay, well okay, only because I would have the real
estate agent call the title company and go here you go.
But you can call it title company and go here
you go. I think you're going to be covered. Shouldn't
be a problem. That is why title.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
Insurance is there, all right.

Speaker 1 (09:31):
Before we take a break, a quick word about my
wife actually, who suffers from chronic pain and is really
heart wrenching to see someone hurt all the time. So
out of that what she created was a podcast called
the Pain Game Podcast.

Speaker 2 (09:49):
And to see her deal with pain and trauma is extraordinary.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
And she did this to help people, and that's how
she deals with her pain. Helping you deal with your
pain or a loved one or someone you're around. And
so this is the Pain Game Podcast, How to Deal
with Pain. And it's so counterintuitive because she says, you know,
there you can bring pain and actually you can give

(10:16):
pain a purpose. I know that sounds so strange, but
listening to the podcast, we'll see exactly what I'm talking about.
Her guests, who suffer, who treat, who have been successful
in dealing with pain. That's the Pain Game Podcast. And
you can listen to the show wherever you listen to podcasts,
The Pain Game Podcast on social It's at the Pain

(10:38):
Game Podcast. Season three drops next week, The Pain Game Podcast.

Speaker 2 (10:45):
This is Handle on the Law.

Speaker 1 (10:47):
If I am still handle You're on a Saturday morning.
This is Handle on the Law, Marginal Legal Advice.

Speaker 4 (10:59):
Jay, Hello, Jake, Hello, how you doing.

Speaker 2 (11:07):
I'm just being great beyond belief.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Okay, hey do you get I'm a m my practice
law deal in Washington State. I have been into you.
I had a toe cut off in twenty twenty and
I've been in his sight three times. I can't find
a malpractice lord to talk to.

Speaker 2 (11:27):
Hold on you got you?

Speaker 1 (11:28):
Okay, hold Jake, So you got your toe cut off?

Speaker 2 (11:31):
What happened that you lost a toe?

Speaker 4 (11:34):
I went to see the doctor because they were blister
on top. And she took a squab of my tomb
and spare very center to the log to see what
type of infection it was. She said, I get back
with you, and she never ever did. Her nurse took
a squab, done the same thing the same day, March thirteenth,

(11:57):
at twenty twenty, and then the one of them com
me and by eight twenty fifth it got so bad
infected that they had to cut it off because they
big it were going to kill me.

Speaker 2 (12:07):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (12:09):
Yeah, that sounds like a pretty serious thing. And so
I don't quite know, just based on a swab and
it gets that infected and they just took another, just
took another swab. Why aren't you in the emergency room
while your toe is either rotting or reacting to the
point where you need to have cut it off?

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Didn't it sort of tell you there was a bigger
problem there?

Speaker 4 (12:35):
No, not mean alright, alright, So it just so.

Speaker 2 (12:38):
Happened, all right? Got it all right?

Speaker 4 (12:40):
So I mean I'm not on five acres working on
five acres all day. Wrong. It isn't a cue to
me that I should have took my shoes off every
day and get it.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Do you sleep with your shoes on or take a
shower with your shoes on?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
No, guess when I'm version.

Speaker 1 (13:00):
Just when you're fishing. Okay, all right, So Jake, it
sounds like you know, losing your toe because the doctor
screwed up. I mean, this is not an easy fight
because you're going toe to toe to the doctor.

Speaker 2 (13:14):
Oh no, you're not. Sorry.

Speaker 1 (13:15):
You don't have one of those to go to the
doctor with anymore.

Speaker 4 (13:20):
They just set me up with the antibiotic feels that's.

Speaker 1 (13:24):
The problem, Jake, Jake, I'm willing to bet that the
reason that you can't get a malpractice attorney out there
is because you waited five years. Uh and there is
a statute limitation.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
I wonder if I could do it anymore toe jokes.
I don't think so. Lisa, Hi, Lisa, you're up.

Speaker 7 (13:47):
Welcome, Hi, thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 2 (13:50):
Yes, I want to know if.

Speaker 7 (13:52):
This is a proud call. I receive a voice mail
from somebody that is going to serve a document either
on a basic employment and recording and you gave me
the company g RC Digal Services. And if there's a
phone number right there, I don't know how people complain works.

Speaker 1 (14:12):
Yeah, you call them, you call them, You just call them.
You got a phone number and you call them, go
what's this about?

Speaker 2 (14:19):
It could be a scam. It usually you don't have
people making phone calls like that.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
Generally they just serve you. So, yeah, it's probably a scam.
But you know what, I there's no harm in calling
them because they know where you are already you are
to receive the phone call, so they know your number.
Uh So I call them and go what's this about?
And you know, then they'll tell you and either it's
a breach of contract or some other issue, and you

(14:48):
see what happens. And then if you if you if
you get served, you call me and I yell at you. Okay,
that's the easiest thing. Ryan, Hello, Ryan, welcome. Good, Yes, wonderful.

Speaker 2 (15:02):
What can I do for you? Ryan?

Speaker 6 (15:04):
So? I have a special needs trust that my grandmother
set up for me that took to effect after she
passed away, and I've only been dealing with it for
about a year and a half now, and I feel
like there's some sort of mismanager mismanagement by my uncle

(15:25):
who is a trustee.

Speaker 1 (15:26):
Okay, and you are you are the beneficiary of the
special needs trust?

Speaker 2 (15:30):
Correct?

Speaker 6 (15:31):
Correct?

Speaker 2 (15:32):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (15:32):
Can I ask, uh what special needs you have? This
is me being curious.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
Now, no, you're fine. I have autism.

Speaker 1 (15:41):
Okay, but yeah, no kidding, high functioning. I mean I
never would have guessed.

Speaker 5 (15:47):
So.

Speaker 1 (15:49):
And your uncle isn't doing what he should be doing.
What exactly do you think he is guilty of doing?

Speaker 6 (15:55):
Ryan, I think he's been making funds for himself.

Speaker 1 (16:02):
Okay, okay, fair enough. So here is what I do.
I'd go to a trust in a state lawyer almost immediately. Uh.

Speaker 2 (16:12):
And there are.

Speaker 1 (16:13):
Organizations out there that deal with folks who are under
special needs trust trust and you get to find when
do a little bit of research, because there are pro
bono organizations all over the place because they've reached the
point societally speaking, where we actually have.

Speaker 2 (16:30):
Programs that help folks that need that need help.

Speaker 1 (16:33):
So then they'll write a letter and if it turns out,
they'll last for a full accounting on your behalf, which
you're entitled to have, and that that should start the
ball rolling.

Speaker 2 (16:43):
And if they don't give you an accounting. Then there
is a chance.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
I don't know how good a chance, because I don't
know how your uncle is going to justify. I mean,
he gets a little bit more complicated than that. Your
uncle is a title the trust, he is entitled to fees.
How much is something that either the trust itself deals
with that. Maybe there's a limit to what an hourly
limit or the number of hours a year or week.

(17:10):
But that's where I would go is find some attorney
that does that and there and there are sounds pretty
good for autism. There is a TV show I'm watching,
Love on the Spectrum. It's on Netflix, and it is
fascinating to see how people with autism, and these folks

(17:30):
are way up on the spectrum and it's just wonderful
to see how they go about finding people. And it's wonderful.
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This is Handle on the Law.

Speaker 7 (18:51):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from kf I
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Speaker 1 (19:00):
Handle here, Oh Saturday Morning, eight hundred and five two
zero one, five three four, Welcome back. Handle on the
Law Marginal legal ad vice.

Speaker 2 (19:13):
Alex, Hey, Alex, Okay, your turn, Hi Bill.

Speaker 8 (19:18):
I need some real advice please. My mom received a
courtesy notice. I use that in air quotes that this
is not a ticket for running a red light. The
problem was she wasn't the driver. She was sitting in
the front passenger seat. Her face was blurred out on
the ticket she received, but on the notice it says,

(19:40):
if you're not the driver, you need to identify who
it was.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Now you don't have Yeah, you don't have to.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
There's nothing that says you have to identify who it was.
I mean they yeah, you know. It gets a little
tough because as she goes there, a judge will ask who,
and you can start playing games with a judge. They
can't nail you for not identifying the driver, but a

(20:08):
judge can say, you know, it looks like you and
there's really no way for you to go. Judges have
a lot of leeways and they get really pissed off.
Let me ask you if she was not driving it,
I'm assuming there was a friend of hers.

Speaker 2 (20:22):
I was driving it.

Speaker 8 (20:25):
It was a relative of hers.

Speaker 1 (20:27):
You know what, why wouldn't she say you were driving
instead of her taking whatever grief the drive of whatever
grief the judge is going to hand out. Why wouldn't
she say, hey, you blew the red light. You know
you figure it out and I'm not going to lie
in court for you.

Speaker 2 (20:45):
Why wouldn't she say that? Just curious? Amy Alex.

Speaker 8 (20:50):
For the insurance of the traffic hit.

Speaker 2 (20:53):
Well, that's the whole point.

Speaker 1 (20:55):
The insurance is on her car and the driver runs
the red light. It's not gonna affect the insurance. You're
talking about the insurance of the driver. Yeah, okay, So
let me ask you this. Uh, this is your mom, Yes, okay,
So okay, here's the conversation.

Speaker 2 (21:16):
Mom.

Speaker 1 (21:16):
I understand how important this driver is to you, and
it's important enough for you to take the hit.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
Okay, So you'll get the ticket. Uh, it'll affect.

Speaker 1 (21:25):
Your insurance and you've got a couple of points because
you blew.

Speaker 2 (21:28):
Through a red light. Thank you. I sure hope that
whoever drives it really likes you. It's now you. It
can be fought. It can be fought.

Speaker 1 (21:40):
I mean a judge can say you must answer, and
theoretically you go no, I'd rather not.

Speaker 8 (21:47):
No, we don't want to fight it. I mean she won't.

Speaker 5 (21:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (21:51):
Oh then just and then just you know, how much
is the ticket? What do they want?

Speaker 8 (21:56):
It hasn't said yet, Like I said, it's a courtesy notice.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Well it's what does you notice that you're gonna get
nailed on a ticket?

Speaker 2 (22:02):
Maybe hopefully not. If it's so blurred, they may just
say too bad.

Speaker 1 (22:07):
How did they get let me ask you, how do
they get your mom's address or phone number or email that?

Speaker 2 (22:15):
So it's your mom who owns the car?

Speaker 8 (22:18):
Yes, okay, I said, she's sitting at the passenger seat.

Speaker 2 (22:21):
I understand it, but she owns it.

Speaker 1 (22:22):
But she owns the car, I understand.

Speaker 2 (22:26):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (22:27):
Well, and it's not her and all she has all
she has to say, it's not me, that's all.

Speaker 2 (22:32):
It's not me.

Speaker 1 (22:33):
And that may be why you only got a courtesy notice.
So at this point I would I would ignore it
at this point. And when your mom when they when
the cops drive up and arrest your mom and throw
her in handcuffs being eighty five years old, and drag
her to the police car, then you start getting upset.

Speaker 2 (22:49):
But until then, eh, I wouldn't worry about it. Yeah,
those red.

Speaker 1 (22:52):
Light hammers are really interesting and and the judge will say,
you know what looks like you boom done now some
it's because most people don't fight them.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
You know why, because most people know they blew through
the red light. That's why Valerie High Valerie Hi.

Speaker 9 (23:10):
About seventh and eighth grade middle school students being given
a survey concerning drugs and six including the use of
toys and body parts used for desiccating.

Speaker 2 (23:24):
You know what that is? You know what, that's all
a great combination. I don't know. If you haven't tried it,
don't knock it.

Speaker 1 (23:30):
But you know that's some of my fun more fun
times in my life is when I did all of
those simultaneously. Okay, So the students are given this really intensive,
problematic survey. Okay, fair enough.

Speaker 9 (23:44):
Now what the parents were given the option to opt out?

Speaker 5 (23:49):
Okay, they returned.

Speaker 9 (23:51):
That notice and said, yes, I want my child to
not take the survey. They were given the survey against
the parents will say saying that it was too complicated
to pull some kids out, and what would they're going
to do with the kids they pulled out?

Speaker 2 (24:07):
Not give them the survey? Yeah, that's what they're going
to do. So they have a survey anyway, And do
the kids take the survey?

Speaker 9 (24:16):
Yes?

Speaker 2 (24:17):
Oh okay.

Speaker 1 (24:18):
So they were given this survey which is really offensive
to a lot of people, and parents opted out. Okay,
So now we talk about what the damages are. This
is a real issue and I'm willing to bat and
how many kids were involved in this one?

Speaker 8 (24:35):
Oh?

Speaker 9 (24:35):
A couple of hundred, maybe two hundred and three hundred.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
You know what, I'm willing to bet that there is
I mean, this is a civil rights issue, and I'm
willing to bet that there's some attorney or law firm
out there that's willing to go nuts on this one.
And I try the ACLU because civil rights have been
violated here, Valerie, there's no issue about that.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
And so what damage there?

Speaker 1 (25:00):
Your kids pulled out and did the survey anyway? Okay,
Now what there's a school board pay tons of money
to each of those students and their parents. I don't know,
I don't know, but it's it is a violation. There's
no question about that.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
I mean, that's weird.

Speaker 1 (25:17):
Student survey junior high school toys, sex, toys, defecation, drugs,
sex in general.

Speaker 2 (25:25):
Wow, Like you know what school does that? Amy? Hi? Amy?
Go ahead?

Speaker 9 (25:35):
Bill.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Yes, I have a.

Speaker 10 (25:37):
Pen pal in prison. She's getting out I don't know where,
but she has a friend in prison who just came
on a windfull settlement and she can't take that money
because she got restitutions. She asked me in a letter,
could I give your number to her lawyer and you
take the money and then when it get out, you

(25:59):
can give it to me back. You know, they read everything,
and I was thinking, oh lord, is there anything I
can do?

Speaker 2 (26:06):
Just talk to Amy, Amy, don't even touch it.

Speaker 1 (26:12):
That is fraud on its face, and you're screwing with
the system.

Speaker 10 (26:17):
And the day get a cut out. I can get
a cut on it. I'm gonna get.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Okay, all right, So just figure it out. Do the math.
How many days in prison is it worth to get
the money?

Speaker 1 (26:28):
But you also have to hire a defense attorney because
of course they're going to charge you for that, and uh,
if it turns out that they win, all that money
is gone. You know that the state takes all that
money because there'll be a once once that you're convicted,
and you know, I mean there you are letters and
phone calls, all of what you're monitored.

Speaker 10 (26:49):
I'm very honest person.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
I never clearly not Amy, clearly not.

Speaker 1 (26:55):
Because you're saying, can I take the money and take
a cut and then give it to the to the
prison as an end around to not pay restitution?

Speaker 10 (27:05):
So any no, no, don't go there.

Speaker 2 (27:07):
That is correct. Don't go that way. What did the
prisoner get tagged for? Why is he or she in prison.

Speaker 10 (27:12):
Oh, attempted murder.

Speaker 1 (27:14):
Attempted murder. So it's hey, you hang around a great
crowd with a great crowd.

Speaker 2 (27:18):
Excellent.

Speaker 1 (27:20):
This is handle on the law. I can't fine handle
here on a Saturday morning. Phone number for LEO questions
eight hundred five to zero one five three four, eight
hundred and five to zero one five three four. Yes,
we do have a few lines open, and so knock
your socks off. Welcome back, Handle on the law, Laurie. Hello, Laurie,

(27:45):
you're up.

Speaker 4 (27:48):
Yes.

Speaker 7 (27:48):
My question is I purchased a car from a used
car lot online and had the car ship to me.

Speaker 9 (27:59):
I've had the car two months.

Speaker 7 (28:01):
And I keep getting the rent around to get the title.
I still not received the.

Speaker 2 (28:07):
Title, and you gave them the money they've already been
paid I did hmm?

Speaker 1 (28:12):
Okay, sor right? Two questions? Okay, so let's start with, uh,
where are you from, Lorie, Tennessee?

Speaker 2 (28:23):
Okay?

Speaker 1 (28:24):
When you bought the car, did you pay them with
money or sides of.

Speaker 3 (28:27):
Bacon with money?

Speaker 2 (28:31):
Okay? That helped. That's very helpful. Uh.

Speaker 1 (28:35):
And is it a legitimate dealership you're talking about?

Speaker 4 (28:39):
Yes, it was the car law?

Speaker 2 (28:41):
Okay, all right, fine, for where.

Speaker 1 (28:43):
Don't give me the don't give me the name of
the dealership, but was it out of state?

Speaker 2 (28:47):
Was it out of state?

Speaker 4 (28:48):
It was in North Carolina.

Speaker 1 (28:50):
Oooh okay, so they shipped over and uh, all right,
so what you have is you Here's where I would start. Uh,
I mean, you know, is there a vievioilation. Yeah, of
course there's a violation. It was interstate, and so there's
all kinds of federal rules they kick in.

Speaker 2 (29:06):
But I would.

Speaker 1 (29:07):
Start with any kind of licensing agency that deals with
cars in North Carolina and make a complaint and just say, hey,
I didn't get titled, because I believe me, under any
law in any state, if a car is sold, title
has to transfer. There's no way of dealing with that

(29:30):
because otherwise you're not gonna be able to register the car.
You don't own the car, and that's a little problematic.
And I'll tell you even worse. If these guys are
real sleeze balls, I mean real sleeze balls, they call
the authorities on you and they say, she's got my
she's got my car, she stole the car and it's ours.
Now in the end, are you gonna get tagged for that?

(29:52):
Of course not, but who needs that grief? So I
don't want you to go to a lawyer because now
there's money. How much did you spend for the car LORI.

Speaker 6 (30:03):
Is Ley love for thirteen thousands?

Speaker 1 (30:05):
Yeah, you know, here's one of those things where it's
going to cost you thirteen thousand dollars just to have
a lawyer start this stuff for several thousand dollars.

Speaker 2 (30:12):
So I would start with whatever regulatory.

Speaker 1 (30:15):
Agency deals with car dealerships in North Carolina. And that's
an easy Internet search, you know, car dealerships, requirements, laws, interstate,
interstate transferred that you can just sor in all those words,
and I think you'll be okay on that.

Speaker 2 (30:34):
Yeah. Oh that's a tough one. Charles Hi, Charles welcome.

Speaker 3 (30:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (30:41):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (30:43):
I'm having trouble with the thing called reliant.

Speaker 2 (30:46):
License Reliant license.

Speaker 3 (30:50):
Life shares.

Speaker 1 (30:51):
Oh, reliant life shares. Oh that's interesting.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
Okay, Yeah, somebody.

Speaker 3 (30:59):
Go ahead, four years ago, four years ago, talk me
into getting those an account with them where they will
pay when somebody dies. I've had no contact of anything
of any deaths for the last four years since I've
opened it. And now they're wanting invoices.

Speaker 1 (31:19):
Oh yeah, what you're doing is yeah, yeah, what you're
buying is it's a really interesting field. You basically are
buying life insurance. You're buying interest in life insurance.

Speaker 2 (31:32):
So you are.

Speaker 1 (31:33):
Either their portfolio or they hook you up with someone specifically,
and it's a gamble, it's roulette, and hopefully you're going
to get money quickly, and if they last a long time,
you're kind of screwed. So you put money into this
and no one will even talk to you. And what
do they want? They want invoices for.

Speaker 3 (31:51):
What they want invoices for what? That's what I'm wondering about.

Speaker 2 (31:56):
No, No, what are they asking for? What are they
asking you for? Charles?

Speaker 3 (32:00):
They're asked me to pay invoices on the five separate
accounts of total of wopping thirty thousand dollars that I.

Speaker 2 (32:08):
Oh, did you? What are they when you signed up
for this? Saying? What do the documents say? Charles?

Speaker 3 (32:13):
I didn't mention anything about pay an invoice?

Speaker 1 (32:16):
You signed something, Charles, you signed some document?

Speaker 2 (32:19):
You didn't You didn't just send them money? So what
does a document say?

Speaker 3 (32:25):
I don't recall what it's saying.

Speaker 1 (32:26):
They have to There's nothing I can there's nothing I
can do for you unless you tell me what you
signed and under what circumstances and what the requirements are,
and does it say you owe money? And does it
say you sent in X number of dollars and you
bought five of them? And so I can't help you
with that. But let me tell you what I can't
help you with.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
Oh what a good segue.

Speaker 1 (32:47):
If you have bad breath. I have no idea of
Charles did or not. If you have bad breath, there is.

Speaker 2 (32:52):
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legal advice.

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(33:26):
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