October 18, 2025 • 31 mins
Handel on the Law. Marginal Legal Advice.
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
I am six forty.
Speaker 3 (00:11):
Bill Handle here on a Saturday morning right until eleven o'clock,
followed by rich D Murrow and then that's eleven to two,
and then Neil Savedra, who's with me Monday through Friday,
and it is the Fork Report, all things food, and
Neil and I on a regular basis go out and
eat together, and we always have contest to see who
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can eat the most, and generally we wow, not only
the server folks, but everybody around us.
Speaker 2 (00:38):
All right, phone number eight hundred five two zero one
five three four.
Speaker 3 (00:43):
And the baby Shark seems to have worked.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
Eight hundred five two zero one five three four.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Welcome Handle on the law Marginal legal advice where I
tell you you have absolutely no case a story about
president and man, it's do you know what?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
You know?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
What I have to do Monday through Friday. The things
we work on the most. I put together stories, or
my producer puts together stories. We have to figure out
how not to do a President Trump's story. That's our
number one mission. Instead of finding the stories I talk about,
it's let's find one that doesn't involve the president. So
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here's one that we talked about, a whole bunch that
does involve the president.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What a shocker. So the President.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Actually praised the Supreme Court in which it did something
so bizarre my opinion, and he called this a monumental victory.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
The Court agreed to hear.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
His position that birthright citizenship should not be allowed in
the United States, meaning that if you are born here
in this country and your parents are illegal, you are
not a citizen in the United States. But wait a minute,
isn't the rule if you are born here, you're a citizen.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, pretty much. This goes back to the Civil War, the.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Fourteenth Amendment that says, and I'm going to quote, all
persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject
to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States
and the state where they reside. So what the Trump
administration is arguing is that all persons born or naturalized,
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you're really not citizens, even though it says you are citizens.
And he says this does not apply. Now can the
court say it does not apply? Of course it can.
Now the court can the court interprets the law, and
the Supreme Court can.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Say he's right.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The point is a Supreme Court even and hearing that
lawsuit or that position is I never thought it would
be possible to me.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
The language of Fourteenth Amendment is pretty clear.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I am naturalized, and therefore I am a citizen of
the United States. And my parents happened to come over
the United States legally with green cards, so I'm easy.
Although if they weren't, if they weren't illegal, if they
had overrun their visas, for example, if they came over illegally,
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which so many people do, and the kids born, automatic
citizenship not necessarily anymore. And the shocker here is not
President Trump's position. His position has been around for a
long time. One of the things you have to give
him credit for. Man, there's no hidden agenda with Donald Trump,
not at all. It's right there. I mean, what he
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says is exactly what he means, and I give him
a lot of credit for that. We know where he's going.
So this is not a big deal in terms of,
oh my god, it's a shocker. We never would have
expected this to happen. What I didn't expect to happen
was the Supreme Court has.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Agreed to hear the case.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Wow, all right, let's go ahead and take a phone call.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Let me see.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Oh here's a fun one I haven't actually got I
have actually received before.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Greg. Hello, Greg, Welcome. What can I do for you coomorrow?
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Yeah, Murray Bell, really enjoy your show.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Thanks.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
I've lived in the house here in Baker for about
twenty two years. And how I was up in the
attic doing some work on some plumbing and I found
a hidden little tin box and I didn't have a
lock on it, just had a latch. I opened it
and lo and behold there is twenty two thousand dollars
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in one dollars bills, all dated from you know, the seventies,
late seventies, rightly eighties. And I've held on to it
now for several years and hadn't done anything with it,
right wanted to deposit it, you know, I didn't know
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about if I was taxable or or what or or
do I need to report it or Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, with the law are on now?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Okay, money now?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Okay, fair enough? So is it your money? Okay, let
me give you what the law says. Frankly, the law
requires you to turn that money over.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
To your favorite talk show host whoever that may be.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Now, if you don't want to do that, here's the
way it does work, and that is you find a
pile of money, you find it on this street, or
you discovering your in your case, you take it to
the police department and if no one claims it within
I don't know, six months or whatever the time is,
then it's your money. But the reality here is this
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is twenty three years ago. You know, it's that time
has so disappeared. It's I don't think there's a problem
with you keeping the money.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I really don't. What do they do come back.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Twenty three years later and say it's my money? It's no, No,
it's your money. Clearly who's that Whoever left it there
either forgot about it or is the longer alive. Now
do you have a moral obligation to hunt the owners
down and say here's what I found.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, if you have any.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Morality in your soul, I don't, so it's easy for
me to say just keep it. So technically you're in
violation of the law, but man, you know from twenty
three years ago, God's sake, you know it's What you
don't want to do is to pause twenty three thousand
dollars in the bank all at one time because they
tell the Feds, and the Feds can say this is
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income and tax you on it. And so you know,
I'm not telling you to do this. I'm telling you
what other people would do, and that is use the
money and do it and just use it cash, you know,
as you would normally.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
That's what I do.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I'd be very careful about using it limited only to
your drug dealer. So there's no big issue and you're
probably gonna be okay. But the law says the law
says you have to turn it over to the police
unless there's a statute of limitations, and you may be
past the statute. In that case you're free and clear.
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But either way, the vast majority of people would keep
the money. So let me ask you the last question, Greg,
Do you have any soul or any more morality in
your life, in your being at all?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
A little bit? Yeah, a little.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Bit, okay, So do you have okay, let me go
the other question the other way. Do you have twenty
two thousand dollars worth of soul in morality? Probably not exactly, yes, precisively,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Is there a difference between finding something of value in
a public takes versus.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
No same thing you are now. But you're not going
to find something twenty two years old. No, Because you've
just found property. It doesn't belong to you, and you
have a legal duty to try to find who the
owner is or turn to the police. And there is
a period of time in which it then becomes yours.
So if no one claims it.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
This is handle on the law. If I handle here.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
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Speaker 2 (09:26):
Zero one five three four. That's the number to call.
Why don't we go back to phone calls?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Welcome back, Handle on the Law, Marginal Legal Advice.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Jennifer Hi.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Jennifer Hi, my sister rents an apartment in Orange County,
and as with all apartments, each building has four to
eight individual apartments attached. So waiting to be elect there is.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Pay for what they ah your way.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
You're cutting out, hold line, You're cutting out a little
bit here. So, Jennifer, four unit apartments and what now?
Speaker 7 (10:12):
So instead of each individual apartment paying for the electricity
that they use, they usage for the entire building.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
You know, you're gonna have to call it, Jennifer, You're
gonna have to call. I'm put you on hold because
you have to call back. Matter of fact, I'm gonna
hang up on you because that line is cutting in
and out.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh okay, ruddy, Hi, ruddy.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Hey Bill. My question is I had my mother revised
a trust back in twenty nineteen with an attorney firm.
She passed in twenty twenty four in February. What they
found out with the properties is that she had not
put one of the proper these filed with the county recorder,
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and they are I'm wondering if they should have checked
that at the beginning when she revised the trust rather
than after her death.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Well, who who was who was going to revise at
her check?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Who's supposed to.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Check mom, my mom revised her.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Okay, I know, I understand, I understand. And she left
one property out of the trust. Uh so you said,
and they should have checked? Who should have checked?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Who do you think should have checked?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Well, she had the both properties willed over or or
put my name is beneficiary to the properties, okay.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
And that's that's within the that okay. So that's within
the trust, correct.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But okay, and the trust okay, and the and she
didn't and she didn't transfer her property.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
To the trust.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Correct with the recorder.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Well, that's what you do. You refile it.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
What you do is you transfer the property and then
you file a new deed with the county.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So now as far as the county is concerned, it's
not in the trust. It's simply in her name, right, correct. Okay,
So what's your question?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
And there's other beneficiary. So I'm wondering what do I
need to do now?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Okay? Well, I'll tell you real simple. That property is
out of the trust.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
So now if she doesn't have a will that says
everything goes to my son and equally with my son
and my sister or whatever, then what ends up happening
is that part of the property doesn't have a will attached,
and so it goes down by way of intestacy, which
means that a probate has to be filed under the
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under California law, and the beneficiaries are the kids automatically
a living spouse. If there's a living spouse, it's fifty
to fifty between the spouse and the kids. So let
me ask you. You got siblings, Yeah, ok how many siblings?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
That nine beneficiaries, but there's only one other sibling that's living.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Okay, then okay, then there are no beneficiaries with that
property that hasn't been transferred over.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Your mom died and leaves a piece of property.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Who are the beneficiaries under the law, living spouse.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
It's not of the trust. No, no, no, it's the property
is not in the trust. It's over rudy. That property
is not in the trust. Okay, she didn't put it
in the trust and she dies. Okay, Now are you
going to argue that she should have put it in
the trust?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yes, she did. She screw it up.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yes, can you sue her? Probably? But that two things.
Dead people are really hard to sue because they're in
the ground and you guys sort of dig them up
and it's just not it's really not pleasant. So you
ended up with a piece of property that's out of
the trust.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And where does it go.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
It goes to spouse living spouse kids. If there are
three kids, that's split equally among the three kids, and
that's what you do.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's over as far as that property is concerned.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
So the attorneys are saying they're filing a hag set
or some kind of a petition.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Oh, I don't know, I don't know. I doubt that's
going to fly.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I mean, now we're talking stuff trusted attorneys that I
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
But that's generally the rule.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Maybe that she intended and didn't do it, and the
paperwork is there, maybe and it simply wasn't notarized. That's
what the attorneys are going to argue. All right, before
we take our break, I want to talk about people hurting.
I'm going to talk about you hurting chronic pain, which
is there all of the time, and if you happen
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And this is about people who have lived do live
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happen to be married to She suffers from chronic pain
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Speaker 2 (15:32):
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Speaker 3 (15:33):
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this is the Pain Game Podcast hosted by Lindsey. Season
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the Pain Game Podcast. This is Handle on the Law.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here on a Saturday morning.
What a weird Saturday, by the way, in terms of
people calling in, don't know what's going on?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Is there a holiday there?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I mean, sometimes we're jammed and sometimes we don't have
many phone calls, and today's one of those days. So Sam,
get baby Shark going and ready to go again. So
first let me take Jennifer's phone call. Welcome back, Handle
on the Law. Hey, Jennifer, welcome Hi. All right, let's
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try it again.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
Apartment Okay, Yes, my sister rents an apartment in Orange County,
and like most apartments, each complex has maybe four to
eight units attached. Instead of each individual unit paying for
the electricity they use, the complex takes whatever is used
by all eight of those people and divides it among
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them evenly. So if she is not home for a
month and everything's turned off and unplugged, her electric bill
will still be two or three hundred dollars because of
all the other people using electricity. In My question is
that I've never heard of that or experienced that before.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Is that legal to me?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yah?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It's certainly not illegal. And it happens all the time.
Because let's say you have eight units and it's an
older it's an older apartment building. In order to get
everybody there, you got to run eight different meters, which
is really expensive.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Happens all the time.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And you know, can she can argue that she doesn't
want to pay her share that month because she's gone
for a month, or she's gone two weeks and therefore
not using it for two weeks, and so let the
landlorder do the calculation there. Or what if she goes
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away for a weekend and doesn't use any electricity for
the weekend, does that mean that she should be entitled
to a lower bills?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And it depends on how the lease is written too.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Do you have is there any documentation where she knew
that that that's the way the electricity was going to
be determined?
Speaker 8 (19:04):
No, I would have to have her look, and she doesn't.
She seems bothered by it. But I'm the one who's
more like, why don't you at least ask?
Speaker 9 (19:10):
So I just wind?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, you can ask, but I'll tell you how does
the landlord figure it out? How does the landlord figure
it out? Or how about this? I work all night
and I use more electricity than the other person does,
so therefore I should pay more. And the other person,
who lives by themselves, for example, is going to use
a lot less egotricity than a family of four that
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lives in another unit. So let's figure that one out.
So it becomes untenable to do that. Yes, it happens
all the time, and she can ask, but it's not
going to go any place.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Norma, Hi, Norma, welcome.
Speaker 10 (19:49):
Yes, Bill, My sister was living with the man for
over twenty years. Yeah, how many kids? They never got married,
She left them two times, went back with him. Now
she they've been apart for over two years now. She
married somebody else. But when they were together, she took
out life insurance on him and his grandkids. She's making
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monthly payments and his life insurance. I'm telling her that
she's wasting her money.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
No, not necessarily. Who's the benefit? Hold on?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Who is the beneficiary under those life insurance policies. She is, okay,
so she gets the money. Why is she wasting her
money paying for life insurance policy in which she gets
the money.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (20:36):
That's what I'm calling you. Because they never got married.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Doesn't matter, doesn't matter. The marriage part doesn't matter. The
marriage part is totally academic. So she keeps her insurance policy.
And I'll tell you it was going to get pissed
off is his new wife, because when he dies, your
sister gets the money.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
Okay, So she should continue with.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Us asruely because she's beneficiary absolutely, and when he dies,
When he dies, your sister should go over there to
the new wife, knock on the door.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And when she answers the door, she.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Says, hah, I got all the money. What do you
think of that?
Speaker 10 (21:15):
Even what about the grandkids? These grandkids are not even hers.
She never met the grandkids.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And it doesn't matter who's written in the post. She
owns the policy. There are there are beneficiaries in that policy,
and it doesn't matter she's never met the grandkids. It
doesn't matter at all. Who are the beneficiaries.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Her.
Speaker 10 (21:36):
I just feel like it's kind of dirty or naughty
for her to.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Say that's not dirty. No, no, there's nothing, No, there's
nothing dirty about it.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Matter of fact, if there's enough money there, she should
even kill him, frankly, because she's the beneficiary. Yeah, it
depends on Yeah, I'm not insured anymore. I used to
be insanely insured, and then when I hit sixty five,
I just stopped being insured because at that point sixty five,
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the insurance policy keeps on going. My benefits are basically
done and they don't pay any more money. So hey,
so there's no reason at all for my kids now
to kill me.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So it really works well, Bernardo, Hello, Bernardo.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Hello, Yeah, so I'm a green card holder. Okay, I
see plenty beat this with people get picked up and
they said that they're reported if I get deported. Can
I get a before I get deported? A lawyer who
sign a letter saying that if I get deported, my
wife can sell my house with Amy being president.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Now, well, you don't have to be president anyway. All
you do is issue a quit claim deed to your
wife and then she owns the house. Or but you're
not going to get deported, Bernardo. You're a green card holder.
Now you can get picked up and can you get deported, Well,
they can deport you for lying on your application for
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the Green card if you are a criminal of some kind.
And then you know, have you been arrested for drunk
driving or any criminal act?
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Oh? What have you been arrested.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
For for hit and run?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Hit and run?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
A night maybe?
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
No, I know, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Well under this administration, yeah, what I would do is
have a really good last meal before you get deported.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
The answer is you actually can.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I don't know if they're doing that, but under this administration,
there's some issues that you have. They can yank the
green card because the green card once you become a citizen,
they can't do anything. And what you do is, even
if you're deported, whatever country you're in, you can sign
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a quit claim to your wife. Easy, so she owns
So she owns the house completely. How long have you
been married, Oh.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
We've been made for twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
All right, So here's what I would do.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
And this is this is I usually I make fun
of people, but this one is a little more serious.
If you think you might get deported, and by the
way you get you could.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Get picked up.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I mean they pick up people all the time under
all circumstances. Now, especially if you're Hispanic. You sound Hispanic.
So yeah, I mean they're American citizens who are picked up.
Of course they're released as soon as they find out
they're American citizens. And that is you quit claim it
over to your wife, and then she owns it. She
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owns the property. Okay, so that is no, no, I
just do it.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
No.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Now, you do a quit claim date. It's a quit
claim deed. You can just do it on the internet
and it's real simple. You just you sign off on
it and you get it no rise, and then you
file it with the county.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Boy, I'll tell you usually, I normally for years. Someone says,
if that question came up two years ago or three
years ago ago, don't worry about it. You have a
green card, go sweat it. They're not gonna they're not
gonna turn it around. Well, I was arrested fifteen years
ago for a hit and run. Okay, fifteen years ago,
I go, that doesn't matter. Nobody cares. Now, different world,
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isn't it. This is handle on the law, Okay, a
five handle here. It is a Saturday morning. Oh we
got a full board. Took a little bit of time,
but we've got a full board. Eight hundred and five
to two zero one, five, three four is a number
to call, and we can still put you up. Okay,
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let's go back more handle on the law. Marginal legal advice.
Oh okay, Tom, Hello Tom.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
I am seventy two years old and I've been married
for thirty two years. However, my wife is fifteen years
younger than I am. When I retired at seventy, she
had gone back the previous five years and then got
her PhD. And last year, at seventy one, she said,
I want a divorce. Now it's not because of a
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relationship with me and another girl or her and another
girl or guy. And so I said, ah, you want
a divorce. So we moved to Florida, stayed there for
a year, took a job. She took a job then
in Colorado lost that job because they were like shafted
her anyway, So now she's in Illinois. I want maintenance.
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She's offered me one thousand dollars because I have a
bad back.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I can't work one thousand dollars what a month?
Speaker 9 (26:57):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
How much money does she make?
Speaker 9 (27:01):
Well? She made a lot more when she was with
that place of Colorado.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Sorry, how much money is you make right now? How
much money is you make right now? One hundred and
thirty one hundred and thirty thousand. You are probably entitled
to a lot more than that.
Speaker 9 (27:16):
Any idea of what range?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Uh No, there's a yeah, I would guess a couple
of thousand, at least maybe three thousand. I'm just guessing
now because there is a there actually is a chart
that is used by the courts. But if she's going
to get a divorce, I'm going to suggest, Tom, you
get a divorce attorney.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
Have one, but can't get he's so busy and he's filed,
pay per forming, So it's taken so long.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Oh, it takes a while, But yeah, get another attorney.
Not a problem, Tom, They work for you.
Speaker 9 (27:53):
Yeah, for the last year, she hasn't given me any money.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Doesn't matter at this point, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Doesn't matter at this point you want to go from
here on, it's when it's when you have filed and
when the court hears it, then there will be an
order for her to pay x dollars for X number
of time. And the fact that did she support you
for most of your marriage?
Speaker 9 (28:18):
No, we both worked.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
All right, Well, you're still entitled to money.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
That didn't just get your uh get your divorce attorney
going on this, and you know that's what happens when
you get really busy busy support. Okay, Jim, Hello, Jim, welcome.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Jim, you're there? Yes, Yes, that was quick. Oh we
lost Jim. Don't you love cell phones?
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Okay, I'll do it one more. Eliza Hello, Eliza.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Hello, Yes, I'd like to know what the pay on
demand will is?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
The will a pay on demand will? Never heard of it,
never heard of a pay on demand. But I'm gonna
I'm gonna suggest you get going really quick on that
because I don't know how long you're gonna last to
do this pay on demand. But the bottom line is
now no idea at all. Well, do I want to
(29:24):
take another phone call and we'll take a break, you
know what? Let me first of all, let me tell
you about your life and in pain where a loved
one's life. And in pain, I'm talking about chronic pain.
I'm talking about pain that's there twenty four to seven.
I happen to live with one of those people, my wife, Lindsay,
and it is really tough. I mean, obviously it's tough
(29:44):
on her because she's the one that hurts, but it's
also tough on me living with someone in your you know,
you feel hopeless, you feel frustrated, you want to do something,
and chronic pain there isn't much you can do. You know,
medical science does not do a good job with chronic pain.
So what she did is she created The Pain Game Podcast.
It's a podcast about pain, chronic pain and about trauma.
(30:07):
And the reason she did it is to help her
actually to help other people, and with that she helps herself.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So if you live in chronic pain or you know.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Someone who does, I'm gonna suggest you listen to The
Pain Game Podcast. And by the way people commit suicide
when they're in chronic pain, I mean, it is tough stuff.
Every episode ends with a message of hope, and that's
the way she rolls. You'll understand the show is taking
that pain and giving it purpose, giving pain purpose, that's
(30:37):
how she deals with it. And you'll be astounded about
how successful this is. It's The Pain Game Podcast. Season
three is wrapping up. Next episode is about turning trauma
because that has a lot to do with chronic pain.
Turning trauma into triumph. San Diego attorney Alreen Hayquist, who
is over twenty three years of experience fighting for women
(31:00):
who have endured sexual abuse, harassment, discrimination.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
She's recovered millions for her.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Clients along the way, even in one case or several cases,
taking on President Trump and successfully getting Trump University victims compensator.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Remember those that story, Well, she was all over that.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
So listen to the show wherever you listen to podcasts,
follow her on the social address at the Pain Game podcast.
Listen to the Pain Game podcast. This is Handle on
the Law.
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Speaker 3 (00:51):
Welcome Handle on the law Marginal legal advice where I
tell you you have absolutely no case a story about
president and man, it's do you know what?
Speaker 4 (01:02):
You know?
Speaker 3 (01:02):
What I have to do Monday through Friday. The things
we work on the most. I put together stories, or
my producer puts together stories. We have to figure out
how not to do a President Trump's story. That's our
number one mission. Instead of finding the stories I talk about,
it's let's find one that doesn't involve the president. So
(01:24):
here's one that we talked about, a whole bunch that
does involve the president.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
What a shocker. So the President.
Speaker 3 (01:33):
Actually praised the Supreme Court in which it did something
so bizarre my opinion, and he called this a monumental victory.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
The Court agreed to hear.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
His position that birthright citizenship should not be allowed in
the United States, meaning that if you are born here
in this country and your parents are illegal, you are
not a citizen in the United States. But wait a minute,
isn't the rule if you are born here, you're a citizen.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, pretty much. This goes back to the Civil War, the.
Speaker 3 (02:11):
Fourteenth Amendment that says, and I'm going to quote, all
persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject
to the jurisdiction thereof are citizens of the United States
and the state where they reside. So what the Trump
administration is arguing is that all persons born or naturalized,
(02:38):
you're really not citizens, even though it says you are citizens.
And he says this does not apply. Now can the
court say it does not apply? Of course it can.
Now the court can the court interprets the law, and
the Supreme Court can.
Speaker 2 (02:54):
Say he's right.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The point is a Supreme Court even and hearing that
lawsuit or that position is I never thought it would
be possible to me.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
The language of Fourteenth Amendment is pretty clear.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
I am naturalized, and therefore I am a citizen of
the United States. And my parents happened to come over
the United States legally with green cards, so I'm easy.
Although if they weren't, if they weren't illegal, if they
had overrun their visas, for example, if they came over illegally,
(03:31):
which so many people do, and the kids born, automatic
citizenship not necessarily anymore. And the shocker here is not
President Trump's position. His position has been around for a
long time. One of the things you have to give
him credit for. Man, there's no hidden agenda with Donald Trump,
not at all. It's right there. I mean, what he
(03:54):
says is exactly what he means, and I give him
a lot of credit for that. We know where he's going.
So this is not a big deal in terms of,
oh my god, it's a shocker. We never would have
expected this to happen. What I didn't expect to happen
was the Supreme Court has.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
Agreed to hear the case.
Speaker 3 (04:15):
Wow, all right, let's go ahead and take a phone call.
Speaker 2 (04:21):
Let me see.
Speaker 3 (04:23):
Oh here's a fun one I haven't actually got I
have actually received before.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Greg. Hello, Greg, Welcome. What can I do for you coomorrow?
Speaker 5 (04:33):
Yeah, Murray Bell, really enjoy your show.
Speaker 2 (04:35):
Thanks.
Speaker 5 (04:36):
I've lived in the house here in Baker for about
twenty two years. And how I was up in the
attic doing some work on some plumbing and I found
a hidden little tin box and I didn't have a
lock on it, just had a latch. I opened it
and lo and behold there is twenty two thousand dollars
(04:59):
in one dollars bills, all dated from you know, the seventies,
late seventies, rightly eighties. And I've held on to it
now for several years and hadn't done anything with it,
right wanted to deposit it, you know, I didn't know
(05:21):
about if I was taxable or or what or or
do I need to report it or Okay?
Speaker 2 (05:30):
Yeah, with the law are on now?
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Okay, money now?
Speaker 3 (05:33):
Okay, fair enough? So is it your money? Okay, let
me give you what the law says. Frankly, the law
requires you to turn that money over.
Speaker 2 (05:46):
To your favorite talk show host whoever that may be.
Speaker 3 (05:49):
Now, if you don't want to do that, here's the
way it does work, and that is you find a
pile of money, you find it on this street, or
you discovering your in your case, you take it to
the police department and if no one claims it within
I don't know, six months or whatever the time is,
then it's your money. But the reality here is this
(06:10):
is twenty three years ago. You know, it's that time
has so disappeared. It's I don't think there's a problem
with you keeping the money.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
I really don't. What do they do come back.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
Twenty three years later and say it's my money? It's no, No,
it's your money. Clearly who's that Whoever left it there
either forgot about it or is the longer alive. Now
do you have a moral obligation to hunt the owners
down and say here's what I found.
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Yeah, if you have any.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
Morality in your soul, I don't, so it's easy for
me to say just keep it. So technically you're in
violation of the law, but man, you know from twenty
three years ago, God's sake, you know it's What you
don't want to do is to pause twenty three thousand
dollars in the bank all at one time because they
tell the Feds, and the Feds can say this is
(07:06):
income and tax you on it. And so you know,
I'm not telling you to do this. I'm telling you
what other people would do, and that is use the
money and do it and just use it cash, you know,
as you would normally.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
That's what I do.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
I'd be very careful about using it limited only to
your drug dealer. So there's no big issue and you're
probably gonna be okay. But the law says the law
says you have to turn it over to the police
unless there's a statute of limitations, and you may be
past the statute. In that case you're free and clear.
(07:47):
But either way, the vast majority of people would keep
the money. So let me ask you the last question, Greg,
Do you have any soul or any more morality in
your life, in your being at all?
Speaker 5 (08:05):
A little bit? Yeah, a little.
Speaker 3 (08:06):
Bit, okay, So do you have okay, let me go
the other question the other way. Do you have twenty
two thousand dollars worth of soul in morality? Probably not exactly, yes, precisively,
I'm sorry.
Speaker 5 (08:26):
Is there a difference between finding something of value in
a public takes versus.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
No same thing you are now. But you're not going
to find something twenty two years old. No, Because you've
just found property. It doesn't belong to you, and you
have a legal duty to try to find who the
owner is or turn to the police. And there is
a period of time in which it then becomes yours.
So if no one claims it.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
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Why don't we go back to phone calls?
Speaker 3 (09:34):
Welcome back, Handle on the Law, Marginal Legal Advice.
Speaker 2 (09:39):
Jennifer Hi.
Speaker 6 (09:40):
Jennifer Hi, my sister rents an apartment in Orange County,
and as with all apartments, each building has four to
eight individual apartments attached. So waiting to be elect there is.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Pay for what they ah your way.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
You're cutting out, hold line, You're cutting out a little
bit here. So, Jennifer, four unit apartments and what now?
Speaker 7 (10:12):
So instead of each individual apartment paying for the electricity
that they use, they usage for the entire building.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
You know, you're gonna have to call it, Jennifer, You're
gonna have to call. I'm put you on hold because
you have to call back. Matter of fact, I'm gonna
hang up on you because that line is cutting in
and out.
Speaker 2 (10:35):
Oh okay, ruddy, Hi, ruddy.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
Hey Bill. My question is I had my mother revised
a trust back in twenty nineteen with an attorney firm.
She passed in twenty twenty four in February. What they
found out with the properties is that she had not
put one of the proper these filed with the county recorder,
(11:03):
and they are I'm wondering if they should have checked
that at the beginning when she revised the trust rather
than after her death.
Speaker 3 (11:12):
Well, who who was who was going to revise at
her check?
Speaker 2 (11:18):
Who's supposed to.
Speaker 4 (11:18):
Check mom, my mom revised her.
Speaker 3 (11:21):
Okay, I know, I understand, I understand. And she left
one property out of the trust. Uh so you said,
and they should have checked? Who should have checked?
Speaker 2 (11:30):
Who do you think should have checked?
Speaker 4 (11:32):
Well, she had the both properties willed over or or
put my name is beneficiary to the properties, okay.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
And that's that's within the that okay. So that's within
the trust, correct.
Speaker 4 (11:43):
Correct?
Speaker 3 (11:44):
But okay, and the trust okay, and the and she
didn't and she didn't transfer her property.
Speaker 2 (11:49):
To the trust.
Speaker 4 (11:51):
Correct with the recorder.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Well, that's what you do. You refile it.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
What you do is you transfer the property and then
you file a new deed with the county.
Speaker 2 (12:04):
Okay.
Speaker 3 (12:04):
So now as far as the county is concerned, it's
not in the trust. It's simply in her name, right, correct. Okay,
So what's your question?
Speaker 4 (12:12):
And there's other beneficiary. So I'm wondering what do I
need to do now?
Speaker 2 (12:18):
Okay? Well, I'll tell you real simple. That property is
out of the trust.
Speaker 3 (12:21):
So now if she doesn't have a will that says
everything goes to my son and equally with my son
and my sister or whatever, then what ends up happening
is that part of the property doesn't have a will attached,
and so it goes down by way of intestacy, which
means that a probate has to be filed under the
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under California law, and the beneficiaries are the kids automatically
a living spouse. If there's a living spouse, it's fifty
to fifty between the spouse and the kids. So let
me ask you. You got siblings, Yeah, ok how many siblings?
Speaker 4 (13:06):
That nine beneficiaries, but there's only one other sibling that's living.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
Okay, then okay, then there are no beneficiaries with that
property that hasn't been transferred over.
Speaker 2 (13:18):
Your mom died and leaves a piece of property.
Speaker 3 (13:21):
Who are the beneficiaries under the law, living spouse.
Speaker 2 (13:26):
It doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (13:27):
It's not of the trust. No, no, no, it's the property
is not in the trust. It's over rudy. That property
is not in the trust. Okay, she didn't put it
in the trust and she dies. Okay, Now are you
going to argue that she should have put it in
the trust?
Speaker 2 (13:41):
Yes, she did. She screw it up.
Speaker 3 (13:45):
Yes, can you sue her? Probably? But that two things.
Dead people are really hard to sue because they're in
the ground and you guys sort of dig them up
and it's just not it's really not pleasant. So you
ended up with a piece of property that's out of
the trust.
Speaker 2 (14:01):
And where does it go.
Speaker 3 (14:03):
It goes to spouse living spouse kids. If there are
three kids, that's split equally among the three kids, and
that's what you do.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
It's over as far as that property is concerned.
Speaker 4 (14:16):
So the attorneys are saying they're filing a hag set
or some kind of a petition.
Speaker 2 (14:21):
Oh, I don't know, I don't know. I doubt that's
going to fly.
Speaker 3 (14:26):
I mean, now we're talking stuff trusted attorneys that I
don't understand.
Speaker 2 (14:31):
But that's generally the rule.
Speaker 3 (14:33):
Maybe that she intended and didn't do it, and the
paperwork is there, maybe and it simply wasn't notarized. That's
what the attorneys are going to argue. All right, before
we take our break, I want to talk about people hurting.
I'm going to talk about you hurting chronic pain, which
is there all of the time, and if you happen
(14:55):
to live in chronic pain or you know someone who does,
I'm going to suggest you listen to the Pain Game podcasts.
And this is about people who have lived do live
with pain. And the host of the show, Lindsey why
happen to be married to She suffers from chronic pain
twenty four to seven and even people who don't have
(15:17):
it and live with someone who does. It's worth listening
to The Pain Game podcast because every episode ends with
a message of hope and the premise is, and I
know this is counterintuitive, you'll understand that the show is
about giving pain purpose.
Speaker 2 (15:32):
She started the.
Speaker 3 (15:33):
Show to help other people and then helps herself. And
chronic pain is so bad that the number of people
who kill themselves because of chronic pain is astronomical. So
this is the Pain Game Podcast hosted by Lindsey. Season
three is wrapping up soon. The next episode is about
(15:54):
turning trauma into triumph because pain also comes from trauma,
and so it's turning trauma into triumph with San Diego
attorney Alreen Hayquist twenty three years experience fighting for women
in this case who have endured sexual abuse and harassment discrimination,
and she's recovered millions of dollars for her clients along
(16:16):
the way, including taking on President Trump and successfully getting
victims a chunk of money from Trump University. You remember
that story. So listen to the show wherever you listen
to podcasts. The Pain Game podcast. You can follow on
social at the Pain Game Podcast and the podcast is
(16:37):
the Pain Game Podcast. This is Handle on the Law.
Speaker 2 (16:42):
You're listening to Bill Handle on demand from KFI AM
six forty.
Speaker 3 (16:49):
KFI AM six forty Bill Handle here on a Saturday morning.
What a weird Saturday, by the way, in terms of
people calling in, don't know what's going on?
Speaker 2 (16:59):
Is there a holiday there?
Speaker 3 (17:00):
I mean, sometimes we're jammed and sometimes we don't have
many phone calls, and today's one of those days. So Sam,
get baby Shark going and ready to go again. So
first let me take Jennifer's phone call. Welcome back, Handle
on the Law. Hey, Jennifer, welcome Hi. All right, let's
(17:21):
try it again.
Speaker 8 (17:22):
Apartment Okay, Yes, my sister rents an apartment in Orange County,
and like most apartments, each complex has maybe four to
eight units attached. Instead of each individual unit paying for
the electricity they use, the complex takes whatever is used
by all eight of those people and divides it among
(17:43):
them evenly. So if she is not home for a
month and everything's turned off and unplugged, her electric bill
will still be two or three hundred dollars because of
all the other people using electricity. In My question is
that I've never heard of that or experienced that before.
Speaker 2 (17:58):
Is that legal to me?
Speaker 4 (17:59):
Yah?
Speaker 3 (18:00):
It's certainly not illegal. And it happens all the time.
Because let's say you have eight units and it's an
older it's an older apartment building. In order to get
everybody there, you got to run eight different meters, which
is really expensive.
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Happens all the time.
Speaker 3 (18:20):
And you know, can she can argue that she doesn't
want to pay her share that month because she's gone
for a month, or she's gone two weeks and therefore
not using it for two weeks, and so let the
landlorder do the calculation there. Or what if she goes
(18:41):
away for a weekend and doesn't use any electricity for
the weekend, does that mean that she should be entitled
to a lower bills?
Speaker 2 (18:52):
And it depends on how the lease is written too.
Speaker 3 (18:55):
Do you have is there any documentation where she knew
that that that's the way the electricity was going to
be determined?
Speaker 8 (19:04):
No, I would have to have her look, and she doesn't.
She seems bothered by it. But I'm the one who's
more like, why don't you at least ask?
Speaker 9 (19:10):
So I just wind?
Speaker 3 (19:11):
Yeah, you can ask, but I'll tell you how does
the landlord figure it out? How does the landlord figure
it out? Or how about this? I work all night
and I use more electricity than the other person does,
so therefore I should pay more. And the other person,
who lives by themselves, for example, is going to use
a lot less egotricity than a family of four that
(19:33):
lives in another unit. So let's figure that one out.
So it becomes untenable to do that. Yes, it happens
all the time, and she can ask, but it's not
going to go any place.
Speaker 2 (19:46):
Norma, Hi, Norma, welcome.
Speaker 10 (19:49):
Yes, Bill, My sister was living with the man for
over twenty years. Yeah, how many kids? They never got married,
She left them two times, went back with him. Now
she they've been apart for over two years now. She
married somebody else. But when they were together, she took
out life insurance on him and his grandkids. She's making
(20:11):
monthly payments and his life insurance. I'm telling her that
she's wasting her money.
Speaker 2 (20:16):
No, not necessarily. Who's the benefit? Hold on?
Speaker 3 (20:19):
Who is the beneficiary under those life insurance policies. She is, okay,
so she gets the money. Why is she wasting her
money paying for life insurance policy in which she gets
the money.
Speaker 5 (20:36):
I don't know.
Speaker 10 (20:36):
That's what I'm calling you. Because they never got married.
Speaker 3 (20:39):
Doesn't matter, doesn't matter. The marriage part doesn't matter. The
marriage part is totally academic. So she keeps her insurance policy.
And I'll tell you it was going to get pissed
off is his new wife, because when he dies, your
sister gets the money.
Speaker 10 (20:56):
Okay, So she should continue with.
Speaker 3 (20:58):
Us asruely because she's beneficiary absolutely, and when he dies,
When he dies, your sister should go over there to
the new wife, knock on the door.
Speaker 2 (21:09):
And when she answers the door, she.
Speaker 3 (21:10):
Says, hah, I got all the money. What do you
think of that?
Speaker 10 (21:15):
Even what about the grandkids? These grandkids are not even hers.
She never met the grandkids.
Speaker 3 (21:19):
And it doesn't matter who's written in the post. She
owns the policy. There are there are beneficiaries in that policy,
and it doesn't matter she's never met the grandkids. It
doesn't matter at all. Who are the beneficiaries.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Her.
Speaker 10 (21:36):
I just feel like it's kind of dirty or naughty
for her to.
Speaker 2 (21:40):
Say that's not dirty. No, no, there's nothing, No, there's
nothing dirty about it.
Speaker 3 (21:44):
Matter of fact, if there's enough money there, she should
even kill him, frankly, because she's the beneficiary. Yeah, it
depends on Yeah, I'm not insured anymore. I used to
be insanely insured, and then when I hit sixty five,
I just stopped being insured because at that point sixty five,
(22:04):
the insurance policy keeps on going. My benefits are basically
done and they don't pay any more money. So hey,
so there's no reason at all for my kids now
to kill me.
Speaker 2 (22:17):
So it really works well, Bernardo, Hello, Bernardo.
Speaker 1 (22:22):
Hello, Yeah, so I'm a green card holder. Okay, I
see plenty beat this with people get picked up and
they said that they're reported if I get deported. Can
I get a before I get deported? A lawyer who
sign a letter saying that if I get deported, my
wife can sell my house with Amy being president.
Speaker 3 (22:44):
Now, well, you don't have to be president anyway. All
you do is issue a quit claim deed to your
wife and then she owns the house. Or but you're
not going to get deported, Bernardo. You're a green card holder.
Now you can get picked up and can you get deported, Well,
they can deport you for lying on your application for
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the Green card if you are a criminal of some kind.
And then you know, have you been arrested for drunk
driving or any criminal act?
Speaker 4 (23:16):
Yes?
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Oh? What have you been arrested.
Speaker 8 (23:19):
For for hit and run?
Speaker 2 (23:22):
Hit and run?
Speaker 4 (23:24):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (23:25):
A night maybe?
Speaker 5 (23:27):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
No, I know, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (23:29):
Well under this administration, yeah, what I would do is
have a really good last meal before you get deported.
Speaker 2 (23:39):
The answer is you actually can.
Speaker 3 (23:41):
I don't know if they're doing that, but under this administration,
there's some issues that you have. They can yank the
green card because the green card once you become a citizen,
they can't do anything. And what you do is, even
if you're deported, whatever country you're in, you can sign
(24:01):
a quit claim to your wife. Easy, so she owns
So she owns the house completely. How long have you
been married, Oh.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
We've been made for twenty five years.
Speaker 2 (24:12):
All right, So here's what I would do.
Speaker 3 (24:14):
And this is this is I usually I make fun
of people, but this one is a little more serious.
If you think you might get deported, and by the
way you get you could.
Speaker 2 (24:23):
Get picked up.
Speaker 3 (24:24):
I mean they pick up people all the time under
all circumstances. Now, especially if you're Hispanic. You sound Hispanic.
So yeah, I mean they're American citizens who are picked up.
Of course they're released as soon as they find out
they're American citizens. And that is you quit claim it
over to your wife, and then she owns it. She
(24:46):
owns the property. Okay, so that is no, no, I
just do it.
Speaker 6 (24:51):
No.
Speaker 3 (24:52):
Now, you do a quit claim date. It's a quit
claim deed. You can just do it on the internet
and it's real simple. You just you sign off on
it and you get it no rise, and then you
file it with the county.
Speaker 2 (25:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (25:07):
Boy, I'll tell you usually, I normally for years. Someone says,
if that question came up two years ago or three
years ago ago, don't worry about it. You have a
green card, go sweat it. They're not gonna they're not
gonna turn it around. Well, I was arrested fifteen years
ago for a hit and run. Okay, fifteen years ago,
I go, that doesn't matter. Nobody cares. Now, different world,
(25:30):
isn't it. This is handle on the law, Okay, a
five handle here. It is a Saturday morning. Oh we
got a full board. Took a little bit of time,
but we've got a full board. Eight hundred and five
to two zero one, five, three four is a number
to call, and we can still put you up. Okay,
(25:53):
let's go back more handle on the law. Marginal legal advice.
Oh okay, Tom, Hello Tom.
Speaker 9 (26:04):
I am seventy two years old and I've been married
for thirty two years. However, my wife is fifteen years
younger than I am. When I retired at seventy, she
had gone back the previous five years and then got
her PhD. And last year, at seventy one, she said,
I want a divorce. Now it's not because of a
(26:26):
relationship with me and another girl or her and another
girl or guy. And so I said, ah, you want
a divorce. So we moved to Florida, stayed there for
a year, took a job. She took a job then
in Colorado lost that job because they were like shafted
her anyway, So now she's in Illinois. I want maintenance.
(26:49):
She's offered me one thousand dollars because I have a
bad back.
Speaker 2 (26:53):
I can't work one thousand dollars what a month?
Speaker 9 (26:57):
Yes, okay.
Speaker 2 (26:58):
How much money does she make?
Speaker 9 (27:01):
Well? She made a lot more when she was with
that place of Colorado.
Speaker 3 (27:05):
Sorry, how much money is you make right now? How
much money is you make right now? One hundred and
thirty one hundred and thirty thousand. You are probably entitled
to a lot more than that.
Speaker 9 (27:16):
Any idea of what range?
Speaker 3 (27:18):
Uh No, there's a yeah, I would guess a couple
of thousand, at least maybe three thousand. I'm just guessing
now because there is a there actually is a chart
that is used by the courts. But if she's going
to get a divorce, I'm going to suggest, Tom, you
get a divorce attorney.
Speaker 9 (27:38):
Have one, but can't get he's so busy and he's filed,
pay per forming, So it's taken so long.
Speaker 2 (27:45):
Oh, it takes a while, But yeah, get another attorney.
Not a problem, Tom, They work for you.
Speaker 9 (27:53):
Yeah, for the last year, she hasn't given me any money.
Speaker 2 (27:58):
Doesn't matter at this point, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
Doesn't matter at this point you want to go from
here on, it's when it's when you have filed and
when the court hears it, then there will be an
order for her to pay x dollars for X number
of time. And the fact that did she support you
for most of your marriage?
Speaker 9 (28:18):
No, we both worked.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
All right, Well, you're still entitled to money.
Speaker 3 (28:22):
That didn't just get your uh get your divorce attorney
going on this, and you know that's what happens when
you get really busy busy support. Okay, Jim, Hello, Jim, welcome.
Speaker 2 (28:37):
Jim, you're there? Yes, Yes, that was quick. Oh we
lost Jim. Don't you love cell phones?
Speaker 6 (28:47):
Oh?
Speaker 3 (28:48):
Okay, I'll do it one more. Eliza Hello, Eliza.
Speaker 5 (28:53):
Hello, Yes, I'd like to know what the pay on
demand will is?
Speaker 3 (28:59):
The will a pay on demand will? Never heard of it,
never heard of a pay on demand. But I'm gonna
I'm gonna suggest you get going really quick on that
because I don't know how long you're gonna last to
do this pay on demand. But the bottom line is
now no idea at all. Well, do I want to
(29:24):
take another phone call and we'll take a break, you
know what? Let me first of all, let me tell
you about your life and in pain where a loved
one's life. And in pain, I'm talking about chronic pain.
I'm talking about pain that's there twenty four to seven.
I happen to live with one of those people, my wife, Lindsay,
and it is really tough. I mean, obviously it's tough
(29:44):
on her because she's the one that hurts, but it's
also tough on me living with someone in your you know,
you feel hopeless, you feel frustrated, you want to do something,
and chronic pain there isn't much you can do. You know,
medical science does not do a good job with chronic pain.
So what she did is she created The Pain Game Podcast.
It's a podcast about pain, chronic pain and about trauma.
(30:07):
And the reason she did it is to help her
actually to help other people, and with that she helps herself.
Speaker 2 (30:14):
So if you live in chronic pain or you know.
Speaker 3 (30:16):
Someone who does, I'm gonna suggest you listen to The
Pain Game Podcast. And by the way people commit suicide
when they're in chronic pain, I mean, it is tough stuff.
Every episode ends with a message of hope, and that's
the way she rolls. You'll understand the show is taking
that pain and giving it purpose, giving pain purpose, that's
(30:37):
how she deals with it. And you'll be astounded about
how successful this is. It's The Pain Game Podcast. Season
three is wrapping up. Next episode is about turning trauma
because that has a lot to do with chronic pain.
Turning trauma into triumph. San Diego attorney Alreen Hayquist, who
is over twenty three years of experience fighting for women
(31:00):
who have endured sexual abuse, harassment, discrimination.
Speaker 2 (31:04):
She's recovered millions for her.
Speaker 3 (31:06):
Clients along the way, even in one case or several cases,
taking on President Trump and successfully getting Trump University victims compensator.
Speaker 2 (31:17):
Remember those that story, Well, she was all over that.
Speaker 3 (31:20):
So listen to the show wherever you listen to podcasts,
follow her on the social address at the Pain Game podcast.
Listen to the Pain Game podcast. This is Handle on
the Law.
Speaker 2 (31:36):
You've been listening to the Bill Handle Show.
Speaker 3 (31:38):
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