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August 9, 2025 33 mins
Dean Sharp kicks off an All Calls Weekend by letting listeners steer the conversation. He begins with a thoughtful discussion on rebuilding after a home loss due to fire, then takes a call about surface sealers—explaining how porosity, moisture, and high-humidity environments affect stone, and why penetrating sealers can enhance without trapping water. Dean breaks down the difference between stone enhancements and a “wet look,” and clarifies the roles of sealers vs. color enhancers, cautioning against shiny surface resins. Later, he advises a caller on how to upgrade her kitchen while preserving her original countertop, exploring economical cabinetry changes, the benefits of quartz, and why the absence of natural veining is a strength in stone durability.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
KF I am six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp,
the House Whisper on demand on the iHeartRadio app. Good
morning and welcome home. I am Dean Sharp, the house Whisperer,
custom home Builder, custom home designer, and every weekend, every

(00:23):
Saturday morning, your guide to better understanding that place where
you live. Good morning to you. Hope this Saturday is
going to prove out to be a fantastic day. For
it's going to be a warm one here in southern California.
I hope the weather is holding with you wherever you
may be, but it will be sunny and minus a

(00:46):
couple of fires in the area. We should be doing
okay today today on the show. As always for Saturday morning,
it's your calls. You're in charge. I know, I know
you didn't wake up this morning thinking, oh, I'm in
charge of the radio show today, but yeah, you are.
The number to reach me is eight three three two.

(01:07):
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(01:28):
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(01:50):
ask Dean, and we are literally just waiting for you.
Good call. In the meantime, I'm gonna say good morning
to Sam. Good morning, Sam. How you doing, Bud? Good morning?
How's it going, buddy? It's all right. I'm good. I'm good.
Played a little we played some cards last night with
some friends that you know, actually, and we had a

(02:11):
good time. Got in a little late, got up a
little early, but I'm fine. Actually, I'm good to go.
Like Chip her mood, I mean, you usually carry such
good energy, but you feel today like there's a little
extra goodness in there, you know what. I'm just looking
for it, and so I'm just I'm just putting it
out there at the time, I'm just laying it out there.

(02:34):
I'm hoping the universe will just bounce it back at me.
That's the thing. I'm looking for a little reciprocity today. Uh,
where's the boss, do you supposed Well, she'll be here soon.
So the person who's supposed to be sitting across the
table from me is my better half, my design partner.
One of the reasons that I smile every time I

(02:55):
wake up in the morning. My best friend in all
the world, Tina is here, just not here here right now.
I see the light on over there. You will be
here shortly, I promise you, she will be here shortly.
I got some interesting things in the news today and
well not today, but this week that I thought I

(03:16):
would bring up with you. Also have some questions from
listeners that I'm going to throw out your way if
we don't get the calls rolling in right away. One
of the more interesting things that just happened this week,
and it's been happening for a bit, but actually one
of these happened this week. I don't know if you

(03:36):
heard about this, but in response to the rebuilding issues
around the Eaten fire in Altadena, you know Altadena and
Pacific Palisades, the two areas that were really messed up
by the fires, earlier in the year. They're very different communities,

(03:57):
as you can expect. Pacific Palisades also an older community,
definitely an older community, but Pacific Palisades a much wealthier
community and a larger variety of kinds of homes. But
Alta Dina. Alta Dina is an even older community and

(04:19):
a lot of century homes in Altadena. Century homes meaning
homes that are over at or over one hundred years
old or around about that area. And one of the
things you might not immediately think about in terms of
rebuilding Alta Dina is the fact that you've got a
lot of people living in that area who've lost their homes.

(04:42):
They've lost a hundred year old home, and they don't
want to live in a brand new one. They'd really
rather not be so even though the insurance company may
have shown up and said, all right, we're ready to
build this house, rebuild this house, they're not really enjoying
the prospect of living in a new home. It won't

(05:03):
be built the same way. And I don't mean to
imply that it won't be built as well. It's just
the materials, the craftsmanship, the history of the home for
them was something very, very special. Well, there was an
architecture of firm in here in southern California that had

(05:24):
a pretty dang good idea as far as I'm concerned.
The name of the firm is on I always get this.
I have to say this carefully. Om am givening Imgivning.
Uh it's a I think it's a Danish word that
means ambiance. Okay, but I'm Givning had this idea. They're like,
you know what, We're going to check out the demolition

(05:47):
permits that are been filed for you know, the Greater
LA Area and residential demolition permits. And you might think, well,
what's the point of that, because when how does their
schedule be demolished? It means they're uninhabitable, they've been condemned.
Not actually the case in most cases, really not the case.

(06:09):
In most cases, when a demolition permit for a house
has been filed, there isn't anything in particular wrong with
the house. It's just it doesn't fit the owner of
the property's needs. There may be an encroachment by a
commercial interest that wants to buy the property and remove

(06:30):
the house. There is one hundred different reasons why a
house could be scheduled for demolition, and what these guys
were looking for specifically were century homes in the LA
area that were scheduled for demolition and homes in decent shape.

(06:52):
And their plan was to offer the contact information kind
of broker between the owner of those properties who want
this house off their property and they don't really care
how it gets off, and certain individuals who are looking
to replace their century home in the Altadena area and

(07:15):
see if we can hook them up. Well. A couple
of these connections have been made. In one case, the
house was built, was a bought off the property for
a dollar, one dollar, a craftsman one hundred year old
craftsman home purchased for a dollar. But then what the
new owner has to do, of course, is move the house.

(07:35):
Pay to have the house move, which you know, we'll
talk about this on the other side of the break
is a whole thing in LA But it's doable. In fact,
not only is it doable, but it just happened, just happened.
On Tuesday night. This one particular house that I'm referencing
made its way twenty four miles from Los Veelas over

(07:55):
through a web of a maze of street permits, made
its way to Alta Dina, where it will now live
the continue to live its life there. I'll talk to
you about how that happens and what's involved with that
right after the break plus, we're waiting for your calls.
Waiting for your calls. The number to reach me A

(08:17):
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your home with Dean Sharp the house whisper Dean Sharp,
the house whisper here to help you take your home
to the next level. Good Saturday morning to you. The
sun is rising, so are you. Apparently, hey, I have

(08:42):
to apologize. We we had some calls coming in right
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but we were having trouble apparently with the audio on
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(09:03):
couple of months soon as you call. As soon as
you call. The number to reach me eight three to
three two Ask Dean eight three three. The numeral to
ask Dean eight three three to ask Dean, all right,
let me just finish up real quick telling you what
we were talking about before the break, which was this
fascinating story about moving houses across La Century homes that

(09:27):
were scheduled for demolition being moved to Alta Dina to
replace the century homes that burnt down there. So this
happened just Tuesday. The first one, I believe a house
that was purchased for super cheap. I think a buck
off of a lot in Los felis a beautiful craftsman home. Now,

(09:50):
what does it take to move a house across Los Angeles?
It takes something. It took twenty one different street use
permits in order from various jurisdictions in order to get
the permission to do it. When you move, you've got
to do it in the middle of the night, because

(10:10):
number one, it's a very slow process. Number two is
you want to do it when traffic is not going
to be affected in the least and it's not exactly
what you would think. Yes, the houses have to be
dismantled into sections in order to move. Now, out in

(10:31):
rural areas, there are times when we can lift up
an entire home. We've got a big old, lonely highway
or some rural roads, and if it's not getting moved
very far, we might be able to literally lift, yes,
lift and move the entire home in one piece. That

(10:52):
happens rarely now these days, but like I said, if
you live in a rural area, it's it's a doable thing.
And believe me, there are some massive structures that have
been lifted and moved in one piece successfully without damage.
But here in La on the East coast, it's the
same story. Actually, on the east coast it's even worse

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because overhanging power lines, freeway overpasses, and you have to
plot out a journey to get from point A to
point B that avoids all of the traffic signals at intersections.
I mean, it's a whole thing. So here, typically we'd
be taking a two story house. You're going to take
the second story, dismantle it, set those walls and that

(11:37):
material down on the first floor, tuck them away down there,
and then you separate the first floor in one, two, three,
sometimes four pieces, and those sections get moved over and
then reassembled on site. And then once they are being
reassembled on site, then a foundation to match them is

(11:57):
poured with all the plumbing and electrical and so on,
and then the house can be sat down and that
foundation built back up to the level of the house.
It's a whole thing. I mean, it's an art in
and of itself. There are trades that are dedicated just
to moving houses. But the point is it can be done,
it has been done, it will be done. And I

(12:19):
thought it was a pretty cool, pretty creative solution. Or
some Alta Dina homeowners who Okay, fine, let's say the
insurance company stepped up. Let's say they've got all the
money they need to make the rebuild of the house
they lost, but they simply would prefer to not live

(12:39):
in a brand new home. They'd rather live in the
one hundred year old home with all that history and
so on. You know, even though you could build a
home to look just like it, okay, the fact of
the matter is it doesn't have the history, doesn't have
the same kind of craftsmanship, the same kind of materials,
and so there's all these justifications for some folks who

(13:03):
would prefer to have a home that already exists somewhere
else brought to Altadena. Just what a great way to
preserve La history, great way to preserve architecture and so on.
So there you go. I thought that was a story
we're sharing. You can check it out. I think it's
last Lai t. You can find that story about how

(13:26):
do you move a house across la A craftsman's journey
into fire ravaged Alta Dina. Totally worth taking a few
minutes to check out. All right, we got some calls
on the board, and so we're going to get one
started at least here. Let's talk to John. Hey, John,
good morning, and welcome home.

Speaker 2 (13:46):
Thankstine. I appreciate your shorel and I have a question
or I have some rock that I want to cover
in a shower and he was going to cover it
with resin and I have a friends friends and mutual
high places and he recommended you Ryan and carry Anyways,

(14:12):
I was going to use resin on the rock and okay,
you mentioned not to use the resin. What a stain?
Can you recommend a stain I could use? And how
do I track the rock?

Speaker 1 (14:24):
Okay? So tell me give me some more insight. Where's
the rock again? Where you've got this rock surface and
you want to preserve it and enhance it or you know,
so tell me exactly where it is and what are
we talking about.

Speaker 2 (14:37):
Well, okay, it's going to be in the bathroom, and
it's in Baja. So it's a typical rock to you
use for everything. I think it's granted. So I want
to bring out the polars in the rock. At the
same time, I want to keep it nice and have
no mold, glide or anything in the shallot.

Speaker 1 (14:55):
Okay, I got you, I got you. Okay. Yeah. So
so you've heard me say in the past that I'm
not a fan of putting a surface seiler. Yeah, you know,
on that And and it's only because there's porosity. Every
rock has porosity, and uh and as a result, uh

(15:18):
in a high moisture environment that it is undoubtedly that
we're going to get moisture inside the rock the porosity
of the rock, and then once water is in there,
it wants to come out and eventually it's not gonna
happen overnight. In fact, you could, you know. So I
need to qualify this statement a little bit. If you're

(15:38):
willing to maintain it and keep it maintained, which means
you know, maybe at least twice a year. Uh, make
sure that that gets touched up along the way. Then
you might be okay with that. You might be okay
with that that you know, shinier slick surface, uh there.
But the point is water is inside and it's gonna

(16:00):
be wanting to push itself out from the backside, which
is why resin driveways and these resin finishes on stone
outside eventually outside, especially because of UV, they yellow, but
they'll crack, they'll peel, and then you have a mess
on your hands. And my point is this, there are

(16:21):
penetrating sealers that do the job of sealing the stone
and that have an element in them that are also
what we call enhancing. Now it's a tricky definition because
people get confused stone enhancing and wet look. It feels

(16:42):
like those are the same thing, but they're not the
same thing. And guess what, John, We're up against a
break because I grabbed your call a little bit late.
So I'm gonna pop you on hold. Everybody's gonna hang out,
and when we come out back from the break, I'm
gonna explain the difference between stone enhancing, color enhancing, and

(17:04):
the wet look and why I'm in favor of one
and not so much the other. But I think it'll
achieve what you're looking for. John, So you hang tight,
everybody hang tight. And also for those of you who
haven't called yet, here's the number eight three three two.
Ask Dean A three three the numeral two. Ask Dean

(17:25):
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We're waiting for you to call and tell me what
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Speaker 3 (17:36):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI Am six forty you.

Speaker 1 (17:43):
Good morning, Kean Sharp, the house Whisper here to help
you transform your ordinary house into an extraordinary home. By
the way, if you listen to the program and you
think you know what, what I really need is Dean
and Tina in my lit room staring at the problem.
If your home needs a little personal house Whisper attention,

(18:04):
you can book an in home design consult with us.
Just go to house Whisperer dot design for more info.
And look who has made it into the studio. Better
late than never, I guess. Hello, Wow, what a nice
warm welcome. Yeah, how you doing. The fans are going up, yeah,

(18:25):
because they're awake. Unlike some people, some people got up
a little later and uh just got into the studio
a little later, drifted in better late than never. It's
because they were not paying you hourly.

Speaker 2 (18:40):
Here.

Speaker 1 (18:41):
How you doing, I'm doing well, all right. Welcome home, everybody.
Tina my best friend in all the world. One of
the reasons I wake up in the morning and there
she is. There she is, whether you like it or not,
shining like the sun, shining like the sun. All right,
I promised you would be here, so I just had
to let you know, keep my promises.

Speaker 4 (19:02):
All right.

Speaker 1 (19:03):
I want to get back to John. Hey, John, you're
still with me, Bud? Yeah, yeah, okay, all right. So
when it comes to stone of any kind, I'd mentioned
that I'm not a big fan of the glazes. Now,
resin is is that's a word we throw around. Not
exactly the case when it comes to someone. But let's

(19:25):
just talk about glazed versus unglazed stone, or glaze versus
unglazed concrete or rock or anything like that. Products sitting
on the shelf at the big box store, at the
local builder supply store. They can be a little bit
confusing because some of them say wet look, others say

(19:48):
color enhancing. Others say penetrating sealer, and they don't say
color enhancing or wet look. So you got three options here.
A penetrating just that it goes in. It lays below
the surface, not on the surface, but it does sufficiently
seal up the stone to avoid things like oil spills

(20:12):
and yuck and mold and mildew and all that kind
of stuff. They all have to be reapplied pretty regularly
to keep them in tiptop shape. Okay, but they're not
hard to apply. You just rag them on and it's
not a complex process. A penetrating sealer that has color enhancement.
Now imagine taking the stone and getting it wet, like

(20:35):
you know, just sprain it with a hose or getting
it wet. We all know that rocks, once they're wet,
they just kind of explode with color and texture and pattern.
And a lot of people are like, that's what I want.
I want the wet look, right, Okay, hang on. Now
that's where it gets confusing because color enhancing sealers are

(20:56):
penetrating sealers. They don't sit on the surface and they
don't have a glaze on them. They will turn that
rock to the color it is when it's wet, but
they're not technically what the industry calls a wet look.
They are color enhancing, so they'll give you that color

(21:18):
enhanced like a like when it's wet, the wet look.
The third choice is the surface seiler, the one that
lays on the surface like a resin, and the reason
it's called wet look. It does also change the stone
to that rich color, but it leaves a glaze on
the surface. So literally what the stone looks like when

(21:40):
it's wet, all shiny and wet looking. Okay. So the
problem though with that in a lot of circumstances, not all.
They sell this material for a reason because there are
some circumstances in which you don't have you know, you
don't have other factors in the room or outside that

(22:02):
could cause this to flake and peel in all of that.
So the but the reason it's sold is because people
want that shiny glaze on the rock in addition to
the color enhancement. So yeah, my normal recommendation is to
avoid that, especially if it's outside or in a heavy
weather environment like a bathroom, is to avoid that glaze,

(22:26):
the shiny glaze, but go for the color enhancing sealer
because it will penetrate, it will seal, and it will
also turn the stone to that just got wet look,
but it doesn't have the wet shiny surface. Does that
make sense?

Speaker 2 (22:43):
Yeah, that's what I'm looking for.

Speaker 1 (22:45):
Yeah, so that's what you want to do, you and yeah,
color enhancing, color enhancing, penetrating sealer. That's what's going to
get the job done for you. John, Just don't don't
do the wet look because you're gonna get the shiny
surface resin at that. Hey, buddy, thanks for hanging tight
with me. Thank you for your call. Uh you know what,
we have time to uh, let's grab another call. Well,

(23:08):
at least get started here with Monica. Hey, Monica, welcome home.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Let's have one of these counters. It's actually in the day,
it was really progressive. You know, really, it's really nice
and still is nice. And I need to get some
new kitchen cabinets because it's gunky under there. So it
kind of I want to save the counter the material.
Is it a way to cut it? Cut it to
save it after the you know, the shelves are built.

Speaker 1 (23:40):
Okay, so uh, you you got the this happens a lot.
You got a countertop you really like, Uh, is it
a solid stone countertop.

Speaker 4 (23:50):
It's not real stone, but it's it's whatever, coriander or
whatever the word.

Speaker 1 (23:55):
Yeah, yeah, Like it's like a it's what we call
a quartz. It's a synthetic. But it's a really nice countertop.
But you don't you're not so in love with with
the cabinets underneath it, exactly. Okay, all right, you hang tight, Monica.
We are up against a break. We're gonna find out
if you can maintain and preserve that kind of a

(24:16):
countertop and replace your cabinets at the same time. We'll
do it right after we take a quick break your
home with Dean Sharp, a house whisper. Dean Sharp, the
house Whisperer, here to remind you, as always, when it
comes to transforming your home, design matters most Yes, my friend,
design matters most always and forever. It is all about

(24:41):
taking the time, thinking it through, coming up with the
best possible design, and then executing it with good craftsmanship
and good materials, with a reputable builder along the way.
But before you take that step, before you make that call,
you work out the because if you don't spend a

(25:02):
lot of money and you could buy some very fancy materials,
and when you're done, what you added up with is
a really well built, very expensive, bad design. And that's
not going to change anything about your home. Design matters.
Most just just saying, just saying, okay, we are taking

(25:25):
your calls this morning, as we do every Saturday morning.
The number to reach me eight three three two. Ask
Dean A three three, the numeral two ask Dean A
three three to ask Dean. We've got room on the
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you scratching your head about your home A design question,
of course, construction, diy inside, outside, landscape, hardescape, all the escapes.

(25:54):
As I like to say, we got you covered. We'll
put our heads together, you and me, and we'll get
it solved. Give me a right now. We've got Monica
on the line. Monica has a kitchen counter. She likes
the counter. She wants to change out the cabinet. Did
I get that right, Monica, that you're looking to actually
just change the cabinets, but you want to preserve the
counter or something else you want to do to the cabinets.

Speaker 4 (26:17):
No, that's it, that's right, okay.

Speaker 1 (26:19):
And you've got a quartz countertop. Quartz is it sounds
like a natural stone. Actually, the natural stone that has
that word in it is quartzite. That's the real stone.
Quartz is a kind of a moniker we have generally
the industry has given to some kind of synthetic stone countertop.

(26:43):
And I say synthetic is usually because it was born
out of the idea of taking leftover, broken up pieces
of quartz, taking those particulates, adding to them a resin
that bonds them together, and then making countertops which can
be quite beautiful. They have really really transformed and changed

(27:06):
over the years, getting better all the time. But the
other thing, and this is the good news for you, Monica,
is that quartz countertops are generally speaking pretty dang durable
and strong. They don't have the same intrinsic weaknesses that
natural stone has, in that there are no natural veining
points in them. If you see veining in your countertop,

(27:28):
it's an esthetic ad it's not a natural vein. And
the reason I say that's a strength not a weakness,
is a natural vein. It's like the grain of wood.
It's it's actually a weak point in the stone as
far as it's tensile strength and makes it more likely

(27:48):
to crack along those veins if we put too much
weird torque or tension on them. So yeah, I've seen
it done. Now, it's not one hundred percent guarantee. You
got to go into it with eyes open. But the
builders who know what they're doing, cabinet people who know
what they're doing, I've seen two options, and it really

(28:09):
depends on the circumstance, which of course I can't see
with my own eyes right now what your situation is, Monica.
But I have seen builders come in and very very
carefully remove the quartz countertops, remove them off the existing cabinets,
set them aside, and then demo out the cabinets. I've
also seen a couple of situations in which the quartz

(28:32):
is embedded into a very nice tile backsplash or sometimes
another quartz backsplash, and nobody wanted to disrupt that. And
believe it or not, I've seen them actually prop up
the front edge of those counters and very carefully remove,
cut away the cabinets underneath, and allow that countertop to

(28:53):
just sit there in place so it doesn't mecha mess
up the backsplash, and then new counters, new cabinets are
cut to and slid in and reattached. So the answer
is yes, both can be done. How it works in
your situation will have to be on site to determine.

(29:14):
As long as you're not changing the configuration of the cabinets,
are you Are you changing the configuration of the kitchen
because that always throws a wrench into the works. No, okay,
so there you go. So if we're just replacing cabinets
one for one, the sink stays where it stays, the
l of the kitchen stays that way, then there's a
very very good chance that we can preserve that and

(29:37):
switch the cabinets out from underneath. Now, you're always going
to run into cabinet people or builders who are hemmin
and han are gonna be like, nah, no, I don't
know what that guy was telling you. That doesn't No,
that's just them saying they don't want to do that.
But trust me when I say it can and has
been done, and it can be done in your kitchen too.

(30:02):
It is very faced, all right, Monica. You just now
the key is finding the right cabinet person to do
that as you go, and that's that's really the work
for you. It's the work of every homeowner. It's the
kind of hard work that I talk about here, But
that's what ends up producing the results. It's people. You

(30:25):
got to find the right people to do the work.
And as in every area of life and business. You
tell me, tell me what field of business is just
flooded with great people everywhere, just so that you know,
you just pick up a rock blindfolded, throw it and
you hit somebody who absolutely knows exactly what they're doing

(30:47):
no matter what. And that's not the case. There's always
the cream that rises to the top. There's always other
things that sync to the bottom, especially in the world
of building. So you got to find the right people,
and the right people are out there. The right people
also are people that sometimes you have to be patient
for because there are so many troublesome contractors out there.

(31:10):
The right people are extremely busy. It doesn't mean they're
going to be too busy for you. It just means
that you may have to be a little bit of
patient waiting for them. Because good people in this industry
are in very very high demand. And so you know,
and I would like to think from a design perspective
that Tina and I are pretty good people when it

(31:33):
comes to this, and yeah, we're in pretty high demand.
And so you know, the answer, can you do my
project is almost always yes, yes we can, but there's
a waiting list and it may not be within the
timeframe that you need to be done in. You have
to find that out. But that's just just to say
that good people are in high demand. And what I

(31:55):
want everybody to do, no matter what your project is,
I want you to get the right price for it,
and I want good people working on it. And what
that requires is you vetting out your contractors, vetting out
the people who are going to do the work. You
want references, you want recent references, like literally, I don't

(32:16):
really care. I mean, it's lovely that somebody built a
great home or did a great kitchen remodel or bathroom
remodel or whatever ten years ago, fifteen years ago. That's
a long time ago in terms of building progress. So
that's all well and good. I want to talk to
the client that you built for last week. I want

(32:38):
to talk to the client whose job you're on right now.
That's what I want by way of references. Okay, I
want finished projects from last month, not last year, and
not ten years ago. You get enough of those, you
take two or three bids from that kind of vetted builder,
and you'll start to see the numbers pool in the

(33:01):
right direction. You'll get a good sense of what your
project should cost, and you're like, man, that's a lot
of work, Dean. Well, the alternative is just build this
house yourself. So yeah, it's some work, but believe me,
they're doing most of the work. You just gotta find them,
all right, y'all. More of your calls when we return

(33:21):
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Dean A three three to ask Dean your Home with
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