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May 25, 2025 32 mins
Dean finishes up the all calls weekend with a few water heater questions, what kinds of alternatives there are for termite tenting that would allow someone to remain in the home and how to fix a roof leak. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp, The
house Whisper on Demand on the iHeart Radio app. I
am Dean Sharp, the house Whisper, custom home Builder, custom
home designer, and your guide to turning your ordinary house
into an extraordinary home. Whether you are listening to us

(00:21):
on the local broadcast right here in southern California, or
streaming us digitally from wherever across the globe here or
anywhere else, or if you joined in for another episode
of the House Whisper on demand podcast, I am just
so very glad that you are here. We are doing
an all calls weekend and nothing but your calls today,

(00:43):
and I want to get back to the phone so
we can get as many calls in as possible. Lydia,
welcome home, Good.

Speaker 2 (00:51):
Morning, Dean. I have a question that's been posting a
few times to you, or you've explained it, but I'm
not sure if my problem applies or I have a
problem where we did a remodel box and extension about
in twenty two, so it's been a couple of years.

(01:12):
Immediately the shower, I thought the water went like hot
and cold.

Speaker 3 (01:18):
Now we did go from a regular.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Tank heater to a tank less and this is a
direct vent tankless waters heater.

Speaker 1 (01:27):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I don't know what information you need, but anyhow, it
goes from hot to cold. I mean, it takes a
long time compared to what it used to to get
hot in my opinion, and then it goes where it
begins to get warm and then excuse me, and then

(01:52):
it goes cold again. And I have waited like fifteen
seconds in the middle of a shower for it to
get hot again.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
So, okay, I know.

Speaker 2 (02:02):
You mentioned like a recirculation pump and a bridge.

Speaker 1 (02:08):
But there's actually two things we're We're actually talking about
two different things there. Okay, So okay, first let's talk
about the the the going cold on you situation. Okay,
the going cold on your situation. Are you aware that
of any other water being run when it does it

(02:29):
always do this, no matter no matter whether it's the
old water that's running in the house, or does it
go cold on you because somebody else turns a faucet
on somewhere else or something like that.

Speaker 3 (02:41):
No, absolutely not.

Speaker 2 (02:43):
I'm home. My husband's a fireman, so he's often you know,
away from home, and so I can be home alone.

Speaker 3 (02:50):
I'm not running anything, so I mean I've looked.

Speaker 2 (02:53):
At that, you know, but no, absolutely not.

Speaker 1 (02:59):
That was the whole important answer to the question. Okay,
so I'm going to tell you this. I'm going to
tell you that you need to have somebody look at
that water heater, okay, because a water heater should be
a tankless water heater should be putting outputting a consistent
temperature all the way through. It should not be dipping.
There may be something wrong with a setting. There may

(03:22):
be a problem with a thermo coupler or a thermostat
inside the water heater. There may be an issue with
gas supplied to the water heater. I literally it could
be you know, one of ten different things or a
couple of different things. And I know it's only a
couple of years old, but you said you were having
the issue right from the get go. So it is
time to have somebody take a serious look at the

(03:44):
water heater because that is not normal and that's not
related to the house. Quite often, the reason I asked
the question is that quite often, when it comes to
tankless water heaters, a homeowner will pick one out for themselves,
or a plumber will pick one out or plumbers usually
don't make this mistake, but they'll pick one out that

(04:04):
is undersized for the home. Undersized meaning that you know,
the idea of picking a tankless water heater is all
about how many hot water things do you want running
all at the same time, and that therefore you get
a water heater that's capable of that kind of an output,
so that if you're taking a hot shower and then

(04:27):
somebody starts doing the dishes, running the dishwasher, and the laundry,
that that water heater has got enough hot running through
it that it can supply to all of them without
the temperature dropping. Typically, when a tankless water heater is
dropping in temperature right in the middle of something, it's
because another faucet has been turned on, and therefore now

(04:49):
it's having to share its hot water load with another fixture,
and the water heater isn't big enough sized enough for
volume to be able to handle. It's problem with the
selection of the water heater. But in your case, no
other hot water is running anywhere else in the house
and it's still losing temperature. That's a problem with the

(05:10):
water heater itself. Now, very quickly, let me answer your
other question and the question of because it's a completely
separate issue. Tankless water heaters are endless hot water. They
are not instant hot water because the hot water still
has to travel the distance from the water heater to

(05:31):
get to the faucet that you know, or the shower
head that is being used. And so yeah, there are
ways of getting around that recirculation pump bridge valve underneath
the furthest sink away from the water heater in the house.
But just so people know, and it is true to
a certain degree, some old schoolers are like, I'm not

(05:53):
going for that tankless thing because my old tanked water
heater delivered hot water faster. Well, technically, it doesn't deliver
hot water faster. The water moves at the same speed
from the water heater to the fawcet. But a tanked
water heater is sitting there heating water all day long.
So therefore that heat travels a little bit further down

(06:17):
the pipe because it's constantly heating it, whereas a tank
less water heater only heats on demand, and because it's
not doing any heating of the water, the hot water
in the water lines in between the water heater and
the fawcet have a chance to cool down further, so
the water's traveling at the same speed. The hot water

(06:37):
is taking just as long to get there, but residual
hot water from a tanked water heater is a little
closer to the faucet. This is absolutely true. But that's
something that you can overcome design wise with a recirculation pump,
a research pump at the very very end. They're not
very expensive these days, and they'll help draw that hot

(06:57):
water in throughout the rest of the house. That's something
to consider, Lydia, when you're having a plumber look at
the situation. But most importantly, what's happening to you with
this ducking of water temperature in the middle of a
shower when no other hot water is being used in
the house. That's a problem with the water heater itself,

(07:17):
and somebody needs to take a look at it. Lydia,
thank you for your question and your call. Awesome, Awesome.
This is why we do this because we just hit
a full gambit across the board. More of your calls
when we return. You are Home with Dean Sharp, the
House Whisperer on KFI.

Speaker 4 (07:35):
You're listening to Home with Dean sharp on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (07:42):
Good morning to you, and welcome home. We are doing
an all calls weekend. Let's talk to John. Hey, John,
welcome home.

Speaker 5 (07:52):
I'm calling you from San Diego, and my story is
to save the few dollars.

Speaker 6 (07:57):
I installed my own water heat right, and in so doing,
I read the instructions and one of the things that
I remembered was the water pressure. They recommend maximum eighty
pounds per square inch pressure in the water lines. Well,
I installed the water heater and I had the city

(08:20):
come out and test my pressure, and it's up around
eighty six eighty seven. And I'm concerned about that.

Speaker 5 (08:29):
If what are the average home water systems of piping
and everything, How much more than eighty can be tolerated?
And what could I do about it to lower that
water pressure?

Speaker 1 (08:44):
Great question, and kudos for reading the instructions, John, Good job,
my friend.

Speaker 5 (08:51):
I learned how to read a long time ago.

Speaker 1 (08:54):
So okay, first of all, water pressure around eighty five
eighty six. You know you don't have an emergency concern
on your hand, okay, because it's just you know, it's
just it's just etching over the the you know, the
upper limit. However, you are right to address it. You

(09:14):
should address everybody should know this. This is why that's
why I take calls all right, because not only am
I gonna answered John's question, but it should help everybody
who's listening understand a little bit more about their home. So,
residential water pressure should ideally fall in the sixty to
eighty psi range. Sixty to eighty, So that's the optimum range. Okay,

(09:41):
below sixty, it's not going to hurt your house, but
you know, everybody's going to be like, what the heck
is wrong with my water? Why is it clogged? Right? So,
we all like nice water pressure in our lines. But
above eighty psi, and here's the key, above eighty ps i,
it puts a strain on the fittings in your water system,

(10:04):
the fittings of the pipes themselves, and even more important
than that, which you know, there are systems that, if
they're well built and well put together, could withstand a
heck of a lot more pressure than that. But more
important than that, uh is all of your appliances. The
interior guts of the washing machine and the dishwasher, and

(10:28):
the water based appliance is like your water here. None
of them are rated to have more than eighty PSI
sitting in the term right, So we just don't want
to do that. We don't want to damage. We don't
want to you know, I don't want to blow out
the ice maker line to the refrigerator or anything like that. So, yeah,

(10:49):
we got to get your water pressure down, all right.
So I recommend dating for the house just to bring
the pressure down. No, there are no such things. But
here's the simple it's a simple things. Okay, every home
has a pressure regulator on the main line going into
the house. And I would say, well, okay, then then

(11:10):
it's time to get yourself one, my friend. UH, A
pressure regulator valve, all right, And it's and it's almost
always located right where the main water cutoff valve is,
right before the water lines enter the house. I'm not
talking about the meter out in the you know, on
the h in the sidewalk out there in the little

(11:32):
concrete pit. I'm talking about the irrigation and UH and
water control valves, the gate valves right before water enters
your home, right then and there, that is where we
want a pressure control valve. We don't have to have
a pressure regulator uh on the irrigation lines for your home,
because they don't hold pressure. They're empty lines.

Speaker 7 (11:54):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (11:55):
You know, the sprinkler system is empty until you activate
it and then and then they fill up with water
and then they irrigate your house, and then you turn
them off and they drain out again. They don't hold
pressure twenty four seven three sixty five. But the rest
of the pipes inside your house do always standing water
there under pressure. So the point being, pressure regulators are

(12:20):
not expensive in the long run of all. You know,
a lot less expensive than your water.

Speaker 3 (12:25):
Here.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
We're talking about two or three hundred dollars at the most.
And if you don't if there isn't a union hook
up there to detach the existing one, if you don't
actually have one, then you need to get one. You
can find them at any plumbing supply place, find them
at the big box stores. Make sure they're sized right
to your line. And if you don't feel confident, like well,

(12:47):
how am I going to hook this up? Then yeah,
you call a plumber and stall. Listen, I need you
to install a pressure regulator right here at I would say,
and I don't have a scientific this is not a
scientific at scientifically accurate statistic. This is just my you know,

(13:08):
empirical experience. But I would say probably eighty percent of
the homes of the folks who are listening to me
right now have a worn out pressure regulator. They wear out, okay,
over time, uh and so, and that's why. So once
originally it was doing its job holding back the pressure

(13:28):
and reducing it, and now it has just given out,
and as a result, we've got too high pressure in
the house.

Speaker 5 (13:36):
So everybody would be the lifespan of a regulator.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
You know, it's impossible for me to tell you, but
I will tell you this. I haven't seen many that
are over twenty twenty five years old that are still
doing their job. Okay, Oh, I don't know. You know,
I can't tell you that for certain. All I know
is that you know, if you suspect that you've got
high pressure, and if you haven't ever checked the water
pressure on your house, you should. Most people, by the way,

(14:02):
can test this themselves because most homes. Most homes have
a wall mounted water spigot somewhere. Okay, now I'm not
talking about out in the yard. You can't trust those.
If you've got a water spigot and you know, hooked
up to a hose out in the yard somewhere, it's
very likely that that is part of the irrigation system

(14:26):
and not pressure regulator. But if you on the outside
of your house anywhere on the outside of your house,
if you've got a just a hose spigot coming out
of the stucco or the siding on the house, that
is very likely part of the house water line system
and it's regulated. And a water pressure test valve, I

(14:48):
mean a gauge is like a ten dollars item at
the hardware store and it screws onto the end of
the hose bib just like a hose, and then you
just turn on the hose bib and you wait to
see where the needle goes. And that's how you can
pressure test your own water. And everybody can check that
out for themselves. So, my friend, it's time for a

(15:10):
pressure regulator and bring that out and take that expertly
installed water heater of yours and make sure that has
a long, healthy life.

Speaker 5 (15:22):
I did a good job on it for the first time.

Speaker 6 (15:24):
And you know, there's another thing.

Speaker 5 (15:26):
That I learned that I think other people should be
aware of. And these water heaters is the anode rod. Yes,
I'm thinking to change that every four years.

Speaker 1 (15:39):
It is not at all a bad idea, my friend John,
Thank you for your call, My friend, good luck. It's
no big deal. You're going to get your pressure under control.
Bring it down to about seventy PSI once that new
regulator is in and happy water, happy house, happy life.
There you go, Thanks John.

Speaker 4 (16:00):
Well, you're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand
from KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (16:07):
You're setting the agenda today. The number to reach me
eight three three two, ask Dean Joyce, welcome home.

Speaker 7 (16:15):
I have a husband who is disabled. He's eighty four.
He's house bound. Now I'm the man of the house,
trying to restore the house or keep it healthy. And
I've just gotten rid of skunk and now I have
to work on termites. Now. There are two companies, specific
Coast Termite that uses natural supplies and termin X that

(16:38):
cannot fumigate because I can't move my husband. He won't
move out of the house, but they will sort of
do a chemical. But I'm wondering is one better safer
than another?

Speaker 1 (16:52):
Okay, let me try and parse this out. So here's
the thing. When it comes to termites, it can be
a confusing world out there. And I don't want to
zero in on any brand or any particular termite you
know provider, Okay, exterminating provider. Okay, I'm just going to
tell you this. Yes, there are companies out there that

(17:14):
that make big claims about all natural termite treatments versus
you know, and they kind of stake their claim on
the idea that you know, we use non toxic, you know,
all natural stuff, and the other guys, you know, use
the nasty stuff and so and it can all be
so a couple of things. When it comes to termite control,
it is a toolbox. It's a toolbox. There is no zero,

(17:39):
no silver bullet out there. I like termite or pest
control companies that offer me a variety of choices based
on and you know, they've got a lot of tools
in their toolbox, based on what actually has to happen. Now.
Orange oil. Orange oil is an essential oil. It's extracted
from oranges, right, It's got a lot of benefits. You know,

(18:02):
the toxicity is low, Okay, it is effective against insects
besides termites, carpenter ants and beetles and things like that. Right,
you don't have to take out items like plants or
pets from the house. Right, you don't have to leave
your home. But orange oil, now there's downside. The downside,
or I should say the limitations of orange oil is

(18:25):
that it's localized. Orange oil is a localized treatment. Okay,
it's not going to affect undetected infestations anywhere. It can
be expensive the more you treat with orange oil, and
it doesn't leave any residue behind to speak of, So

(18:46):
it doesn't offer long lasting after the treatment protection for
things to prevent things from coming back. Now does that
mean it's not useful. No, it has its uses. And
if it's just a localize infestation and we feel like
we've got control of it, orange oil would be a
great option for that because it's convenient. But this is

(19:09):
something actually that happened to while back. I'm reading off
of a website here that after all of these claims
for orange oil treatments became so popular, the California Structural
Pest Control Board reminded gently pest control companies don't confuse
in misinformed customers. Orange oil is yet another localized treatment

(19:30):
tool against the elusive drywood termite. It is not an
alternative to all encompassing methods of treatment. That's just to say,
it's just one of the tools in an exterminator's tool belt.
There are other natural treatments. Some of it goes by
the brand name Ultraset, others know it as tree bark treatments.

(19:52):
But it's a formulation that is a completely harmless doesn't
leave it any residue, but it actually can provide lasting protection.
It is a version of a substance found in a
certain kind of tree bark, the Rhianna speciosa tree bark,
and basically termites like it. They eat it and it

(20:13):
paralyzes their jaws so that they can't eat, and then
the entire colony ends up starving and boom they go
out that way. There are just so and then there's
tenting treatments, which would mean that you guys, yeah, have
to protect your valuables and move out of the house.
And there's also now this is another thought that you
might want to take into concern. I'm just trying to

(20:33):
broadbrush the whole thing. There are home whole house heat treatments,
heat treatments for insect and infestations. Now what that means
is that instead of using a chemical or a fog
to penetrate the walls for the whole house, they're going
to ask that you guys be out for the day.

(20:56):
They're going to come in in the morning. They're gonna
seal up the house. They're gonna remin move things that
can melt at one hundred and thirty degrees or so,
protect those things like candles and various things like that.
And then while you're out, just for about eight hours,
while you're out doing something else for that period of
time you're not gonna be at renting a hotel room,

(21:17):
they will heat treat the house. In other words, they'll
raise the overall temperature of the entire house, including all
the walls and the studs and everything. And that raising
of the temperature and holding at that level for a
certain period of time will also kill off insects and
termites inside. Now, again it doesn't leave a residue behind,

(21:37):
so it doesn't have a future preventative residual effects. But
it's a way of treating the whole house as an
alternative to tentting. That doesn't mean that you have to
move out for three days. So again, everything has its advantage.
Everything has its limitation. It's really a question of finding

(21:58):
and in your case, and here I'm gonna leave you
with this because then I got to hit the road.
Here in your case, joyce the advice I'm gonna give
to you for both this situation and every other kind
of homeowner DIY situation you find yourself in, the best
thing you can do is to look around, find two

(22:19):
or three or even four, take your time, find four
reputable companies, have them all come out and give you
free estimates and diagnosis. That way, you're getting a sense
of everything that everyone is offering. And I believe most
of the time, not always, but most of the time,
you'll start to see a consensus form. You'll start to

(22:40):
see two or three of these companies say, you know what,
you really can handle this. Look, I think your problem
is localized, or you're going to find two or three
of them is kind of shaking their heads, thinking, wow,
you know it really would be best to tent this
place and then look at your alternatives. So, whether it's
this or calling the plumber or the carpenter or whatever,

(23:02):
two three, sometimes even four free estimates to give yourself
the info you need to make the decision.

Speaker 7 (23:09):
Deane, I have to thank you and I have to
just insert. I listen to you all the time, and
up until listening to you, I've done everything wrong. I
ta have one person come out charm me, sign a
contract and then know what I'm doing. So I'm learning
every day from you, and I appreciate it. I've already
got three. I'm going to go for number four, and
you've helped me already make a decision. So I can't

(23:31):
thank you enough.

Speaker 1 (23:32):
And yeah, Joyce and Tina too, bless your heart. Choyce.
All right, you call back anytime you need to.

Speaker 7 (23:39):
Okay, my friend, Okay, I shall thank you.

Speaker 1 (23:41):
All right, have a great day.

Speaker 4 (23:43):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (23:52):
We are doing an all calls weekend. Alex, welcome home.

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Hi.

Speaker 3 (23:56):
This is a question about ruth leaks. Last a storm
we had, I had a roof leak in my garage
and it was going down my drywall and I was
wondering how I could find out where it is and
what to do about it. I went up in my attic,
but I didn't see where the actual leak was coming from.

Speaker 1 (24:10):
Did you go up in your attic while it was leaking.

Speaker 3 (24:13):
Yes, I did.

Speaker 1 (24:14):
You did mm and you saw you you didn't see
any evidence of moisture anywhere.

Speaker 3 (24:19):
It was hard for me to tell. I mean I
had a flashlight, but it was really hard to tell
where exactly it was coming from. But it was a
big leak area and some of the drywall was peeling off.

Speaker 1 (24:28):
Okay, I didn't really know.

Speaker 3 (24:29):
It's hard to see. Yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (24:31):
Yeah, the best thing I can do other than have Okay,
So first of all, if you want to get it
back up there and and and see if you can
rediscover it again, Okay, you can, you know, get a
hose up on your roof and cut it kind of
put it on the you know, wide fan spray, let
it run for a little bit, see if you can't
induce the leak again in order to test it out. Okay,

(24:56):
But as a general principle, just as a general principle,
here's what you're Here's the or, I should say, the
trickiness about finding a roof leak, and that is that
wherever by the time water ends up on the dry
wall in our ceilings or running down our wall down below,
it could have traveled a good distance to get there.
So I don't have great news for you in that regard,

(25:19):
because number one, the water has to get through your
roofing material and then it slides down underneath the underlayment
we talked about earlier on the show today, the builder paper,
the roofing paper. Now, at what point does it slide
down underneath? If the water gets under the shingles, it

(25:39):
may move a ways down the roof before it actually
finds a crack or an opening in the roofing paper,
or maybe it moves through a flashing air. It's hard
to tell exactly where on the roof exactly it's leaking
based on when it comes through. It could also run
on the plywood sheathing of your roof for a while
before it then soaks down in starts dripping through the rafters,

(26:01):
And it can run down a rafter for a while
before it drips down onto the ceiling joist. So the
general rule is this, wherever you find the water dripping
down through the ceiling or on the wall, start there
and track up the roof. Okay, it's definitely not coming

(26:21):
from lower down on the roof, that's for sure, but
definitely literally anywhere between that point and the very top
ridge of your roof, okay, and several feet in both
directions left and right as you track up. That's what
you want to be looking for now. If you don't
want to induce leaking again, and I would understand why,

(26:43):
But then what you're going to have to rely on
is getting up there and closely examining the rafters and
the plywood to see if you can't see evidence of
water dried water lines, and sometimes, and it's not uncommon,
sometimes that works out really well because there's so much

(27:04):
stuff material in the building, paper and so on, that
when the water drips down, it's a little dirty and
it leaves a little trail behind. So if you can
find some drip lines, that's a clue. If you can
actually induce the leak again and see some water running
from somewhere, obviously, that's a clue. But always look up
from the leak from where it's coming through up to

(27:25):
the ridgeline, and if all else fails, coul a ruffer
and let him take a look at it. All right, Alex,
I hope you appreciate the answer, and good luck finding
the leak. All right. I'm going to leave you with
this thought. Today, you know, we have a new pope,
Pope Leo, and Pope Francis died just a few days ago.

(27:50):
And before that, of course, he was hospitalized quite a bit.
And when that was happening, about the time that was happening,
there was a meme, I don't know what you would
call it, a note, a note that Pope Francis supposedly
wrote from his hospital bed that was circulating around social media.

(28:10):
I think it still is, actually in various forms, and
somebody sent it to me and I read it and
I thought it was lovely. I had some really lovely
thoughts to it. Now I wanted to check it out
before I shared it with you. And of course it
turns out, according to snopes dot com and some other sources,
that there's really no evidence that the Pope Francis actually

(28:32):
wrote this. So I'm just I'm entitling this not Pope
Francis's hospital note. But here's the thing. I don't know
why we lean on authority to give some validity to
things that are just true anyway, So but people do,
and so somebody felt the need to attribute it to

(28:54):
Pope Francis. I do not feel the need to attribute
it to Pope Francis, letting you know, as far as
we know, he did not say these things. But I
really appreciated the person who shared this with me, and
I appreciate the thoughts, so I'm gonna share it with you.
It is essentially called lessons from loss, and it goes
like this. The walls of hospitals here more honest prayers

(29:18):
than most churches. They have witnessed, far more sincere kisses
than those in airports. It is in hospitals that you
see a homophobe being saved by a gay doctor, or
a privileged doctor saving the life of a beggar. In
intensive care, you see a Jew taking care of a racist,
a police officer and a prisoner in the same room

(29:40):
receiving the same care, a wealthy patient waiting for a
liver transplant ready to receive the organ from a poor donor.
It is in these moments, when the hospital touches the
wounds of people, the different worlds intersect, according to maybe
a divine design, and in this communion of destinies we

(30:03):
realize that alone we are nothing. Now the absolute truth
of people, most of the time, only reveals itself in
moments of pain or in the real threat of an
irreversible loss. Loss is the place where human beings remove
their masks and show themselves as they truly are, in
their purest essence. This life will pass quickly, don't we

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know it. Don't waste it fighting with people. Don't criticize
your body too much, don't complain excessively, don't lose sleep
over the bills. Don't worry too much about keeping the
house spotless, but make sure to hug your loved ones.
Material goods must be earned by each person. Don't dedicate
yourself to accumulating an inheritance. You are waiting for too much.

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For Christmas, for Friday, for next year, for when you
have money, for when love arrives, when everything is perfect,
but perfection does not exist here. We are given an
opportunity to learn. So make the most of this life,
and do it now. Respect yourself, respect others. Walk your

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own path, not the path that others have chosen for you. Respect,
Do not comment, do not judge, do not interfere. You
love more, you forgive more, embrace more, and live more intensely,
and let everyone else make their own choices. I think

(31:38):
those are pretty good thoughts, and to them, of course,
I would add, get out there and get busy building
yourself a beautiful life. Thanks for joining us on the
program today. We will see you right back here next weekend.
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