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May 31, 2025 32 mins
This episode, Dean starts with a personal touch, sharing the story behind one of his favorite travel traditions—collecting unique coffee mugs. Then it’s on to tackling real homeowner challenges: he helps a caller dealing with a water-damaged chimney that's causing problems inside the house, explains how to handle calcium build-up on a block wall fence using muriatic acid safely, and offers guidance to a homeowner facing a plumbing issue that’s damaging their concrete slab. 
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Speaker 1 (00:01):
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(01:15):
house Whisperer dot Design. All right, I've got an update
Sam on my on my new Mexico coffee mug and
you're involved now, Okay, Okay, here's the thing currently my
my mug says and of Chantment. It's supposed to say

(01:36):
Land of Enchantment, but the decal is coming off because
it was cheap airport coffee. Mug did not know, and
so I'm looking up online here, I'm like, where can
I get another one of these things?

Speaker 3 (01:47):
So you know what?

Speaker 2 (01:48):
You know what the You probably know this. I don't
know if you do, though. The symbol that is in
the middle, the sun symbol that's in the middle of
the New Mexico flag is called the Zia Sonza Son.

Speaker 4 (02:02):
Yeah, no, I'm aware of this. This is I go
to if I ever get pulled over in New Mexico,
cops are gonna look at my last name and think
I made it up.

Speaker 2 (02:11):
Yeah, that's right, everybody. So Sam's last name is Zia,
which is the Zea named at the Zea Pueblo. The
puebloans one of the oldest Puebloan tribes in New Mexico.
So are you telling me that you actually have a
Native American ancestry. No, no, I don't.

Speaker 4 (02:28):
That's actually a common name amongst a bunch of different cultures.
But here in the United States that's one of the tribes.
That's one of the old Native American tribes. If I
ever get a tattoo, it's gonna be the Zia sun.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Oh all right, well, I'm a little disappointed by that
because I was going to have you make a call
on this munk.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
I'll call it.

Speaker 4 (02:49):
I'm like, hey, this is Zeia callin, this is z looking.

Speaker 3 (02:52):
Mug.

Speaker 4 (02:52):
Situation fixed, that's right.

Speaker 2 (02:56):
I have a very dear friend who needs the right
kind of mug. All right, all right, that's fine, that's fine. Hey,
let's go back to the phones and answer some more
home questions. I'm sure I know some of you are
very disappointed that I'm not going to talk about my
mug anymore. Maybe I will a little bit. Let's talk
to Malcolm. Hey, Malcolm, welcome home.

Speaker 5 (03:20):
Tell me more about your mug.

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Oh, now you've endeared yourself to me. Yeah, it's it's
just it's less. I mean, it's more of just a
gold mug. Now there's there's by the minute, there is
less stuff on it. And you know, all right, well,
I'm going to keep this mug and I will tell
people every time I bring it out here at the house,
I'll be like, hey, you know what, you want to
hear the story of this mug and everybody will be like.

Speaker 1 (03:46):
Oh, don't ask him the.

Speaker 2 (03:48):
Story anyway, it's gonna be a thing. How can I
help you.

Speaker 3 (03:52):
Malcolm, Well, here goes.

Speaker 5 (03:56):
We bought a house that, as you mentioned earlier, had
been neglected and abandoned, both literally. Part of the problem
was there was no rain hat or cap on the chimney,
and so it had years of you know, atmosphere, rain, etcetera.

(04:18):
Coming in. When we purchased the place, there was a
lot of sand, you know, mortar residue on the floors
of the It's a back to back fireplace, so dual chimneys,
back to back. And we were told, oh, it's fine,
there's no problem. And then we were also told that

(04:42):
the anterior mortar had been degraded to a point where
it was unsafe. And so how do we get a qualified, actual, accurate,
you know, accredited you know, look see at it. And

(05:03):
what should we expect if it does have to be remortared.

Speaker 2 (05:07):
Okay, it's a really good question because you know, these days,
people are so the fireplaces are so foreign to folks.
But there are places out there where we can do so. Basically,
here you want to call a fireplace inspection service. Quite
often you can just search for chimney sweep. Yeah, a
chimney sweep, a chimney cleaning sweep company. They you know

(05:32):
in the twenty first century. What that means is they're
not showing up at your house looking like Dick van
Dyke out of that movie. But they they they come.
They are going to clean the interior of the flu.
But they also scope it, and they are experts at
detecting exactly how extensive the damage is, whether there is

(05:55):
structural issues, whether there's mortar repair damage, and amazingly there's
a lot that can be done by way of repair
without a full disassembly of a chimney. But again, you
want to get that expert opinion on them. So you
want them to come scope the chimney and find out

(06:17):
just to what degree. And some folks are scratching their
head saying, so what does it matter water down a chimney, flu,
It's all just brick and mortar, right, Yeah, well you're
right it is, and a little bit of water here
and there, no big deal. But years of water flowing
in that and again temperature swings, right, because water can

(06:40):
soak into a concrete or brick mortar, and then you
know that water expands when it freezes, and as a
result of water expanding when it freezes, once it's inside
the pores of concrete, it can actually start breaking concrete apart.
And then there are other minerals in water that can
work on mortar in a different way. So the question

(07:00):
of whether or not it needs a full rebuild up,
that would be if it does need that, that's something
that you want to talk to a qualified mason. Masonry, Okay,
masonry as opposed to concrete work. When you when people
advertise concrete, a masonry, that's what you're looking for a mason.

(07:21):
Concrete is concrete, it's that that poorable, travelable substance. Masonry
is somebody who works with component pieces of concrete, brick,
that kind of thing. So you would you'd be looking
to get bids from a masonry company or a general
contractor who's got experience in fireplaces. But it starts, it's

(07:42):
all going to start with a an actual scoping of the fireplace, Malcolm,
so that you can find out exactly what the level
of problem is and quite often fixes can be made
from inside that flu without full disassembly. Okay, if you
end having to disassemble, then one of the questions would

(08:04):
be whether or not it's worth it to keep the
original masonry firebox and build a new chimney on top
of it, Whether we keep the masonry firebox and build
a insulated metal flu on top of it and then
just run a wood chase, or whether it's going to
be economically most feasible to remove the masonry fireplace and

(08:26):
replace it with a prefabricated wood burning and or gas
burning fireplace. That's an question that I cannot answer given
the unknowns of the situation. But those are your three
options as you go, Malcolm, Good luck with that chimney
flu situation. Just go online, search in your area for

(08:50):
a chimney repair experts, chimney inspection. They're certified, find them,
have them out, have them scope the chimney. All right, y'all,
When we return more of your calls. The number to
reach me eight three three two Ask Dean eight three
three the numeral to ask Dean your home with Dean
Sharp the house whisper. Haf I Dean Sharp, the house

(09:14):
whisper at your service. Thanks for joining us on the
program this morning. How you doing. It's just about twenty
plus minutes after seven o'clock here on the West Coast,
and the sun is out, the temperatures are up. It's
gonna be a warm day. I don't think it's going
it's gonna hit ninety not out here, but it's gonna

(09:35):
be in the upper eighties today. It's gonna be a warm,
toasty weekend. And then the temperature is dropping down and
then going back up.

Speaker 3 (09:41):
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
It's kind of a roller coaster ride of temperature here.
It's because we've had a real spring, an actual real
spring that the weather can't make up its mind. That's spring.
You know, it's transitional. Some days it's cloudy, cool, other
days a little rain, other days a little heat. It's
the way it goes. Get used to it, or I

(10:04):
hope we can view you. I like this. I like
an extended spring. I like season.

Speaker 3 (10:10):
Really.

Speaker 2 (10:12):
I grew up in southern California, and it's pretty much,
you know, growing up, we basically had you know, spring,
spring is just summer and not quite so hot, and
this this is different. So I don't know, I kind
of like it. I hope it sticks around anyway anyway. Well,

(10:32):
let's talk about your home. By the way, the number
to reach me. We're taking all calls this morning. Eight
three three two Ask Dean eight three three the numeral
two ask Dean. And there is room for you on
the callboard. So let's go back to the phones. Shall
we want to talk to h Char? Is it char Shar?

Speaker 6 (10:50):
It's Shar eye Shar.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
Good night. How are you doing?

Speaker 6 (10:55):
I'm doing fine, and I'd like to talk to you
about something more intro esteem than a brick fence. But
that's my problem today. And I live in the High
Desert and it's in an Hoa community. My house is
thirty eight years old and from our Hoa code enforcement,

(11:17):
after all these years, I got to notice that they
want that white residue off the block wall fence against
some people. Efflorescence. Is that what it's called?

Speaker 2 (11:30):
Yes, Oh my gosh.

Speaker 6 (11:34):
Oh okay, so yeah, even they said it doesn't have
to be perfect off, but the majority it needs to
be off. So it's it's all grass up to the fence.
So it's just the sprinklers hitting it. For the last
thirty eight years, and so I've gotten all kinds of

(11:58):
opinions about how to do it. From you know, powerwashing
that really didn't work. Kind of tried that, and then
you know, other people said that acid stuff on it
that I don't know the name of, but some kind
of acid stuff put on, and I really didn't want
to go that route all the way to sand blasting it.

(12:21):
I tried some of that CLR that I got at
home depot that didn't work. And so now they're saying, well,
just and the association really can't tell me how to
do it. You know, it's kind of something they just
started new. They didn't bother people in the community about

(12:42):
it before. Now they just started. So they said, well,
we wanted off, but yeah, we're really not sure how
you do it. And so anyway, the latest is they said,
you know, maybe just some paint or a stain, oh
that's made or concrete.

Speaker 2 (13:01):
Yeah, okay, all right. You gotta love homeowners' associations. Yeah right, Hey,
guess what we need to get all this stuff. It's like,
come on over, Hey, I'll make room for you, come
on over, take this off, take.

Speaker 6 (13:14):
This off my way. Yes, And that's what I told them.
I said, you know, just tell me how I'm supposed
to do it, and I'll do it. I don't have
a problem, but I don't know how, and you know,
and then they come up with different scenarios, and so
I just thought i'd ask you.

Speaker 2 (13:31):
Yeah, well, you know what how I feel about homeowners
associations are the kind of people that would sell you
a defective coffee mug in an airport.

Speaker 6 (13:38):
That's right, Yes.

Speaker 2 (13:40):
Yeah, that's about how I feel.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
All right.

Speaker 2 (13:43):
So here is the key, my friend. And I can't
tell you exactly. I can tell you exactly how to
get it off. I just can't tell you how severe
the problem is and therefore how much you know you
have to respond to it. Okay, you got the name right,
which I was so impressed with. When you see, whether

(14:05):
it's on the inside of your garage stem wall, the
edges of your slab, or whether it's a block wall
with or concrete anywhere with moisture getting on it, it
is called f fluorescence, that white kind of haze. And
some people get like what it feels like built up powder,

(14:27):
and they're afraid that their concrete is dissolving. It's not,
it's not, okay. E Ffluorescence is very, very simply and
this is the key to understanding how to deal with it.
This is why pressure washing didn't work. I'm a little
surprised that the COLR didn't do anything. But pressure washing
doesn't work because efflorescence. It's minerals. Okay, there is mineral

(14:49):
there's mineral contents, salts and minerals in water, and so
water splashes on the concrete and then the water evaporates
and leaves its mineral content behind. And so it's nothing
that's dangerous in any way, shape or form to the wall,
just mineral build up. But it makes that white, hazy weirdness.

(15:12):
And so the question is what will dissolve these minerals. Okay,
A stiff brush, if it's minor and new, a stiff
brush and a little bit of soapy water can often
take effluorescence off. But if it's thirty eight years old,
have you know, they've made themselves at home there and

(15:35):
they've probably hardened up really well. So the key is acid.

Speaker 3 (15:41):
Okay, the.

Speaker 2 (15:44):
Word acid. Now the nuclear option here, which I don't
want you to jump to, is muratic acid.

Speaker 3 (15:53):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (15:54):
Muratic acid has to be very very care I know,
I don't want it to kill your grass. I don't
want it to burn your skin. If you were to use
muratic acid on it, whoever touches it needs to have
on acid safe gloves and clothing and goggles so it
doesn't splash into your eyes because it's not fun stuff.

(16:16):
But there is no question, no question that murratic acid
will dissolve that mineralization and take their effluorescence off the wall.
But here's the thing. I'd like you to start with
a milder acid, which everybody's got in their home, and
that is household white vinegar. Okay, okay, white vinegar is

(16:38):
not going to hurt you, as you know. And white
vinegar is an ascetic acid. It is a milder acid,
but an acid nonetheless. And so I don't know how
many you didn't see how many feet of it there are,
and you know how massive and extensive it is. But
if you were to get a vinegar, give it, Give

(16:59):
that a second of vinegar bath and wait, let the
vinegar have some time to soak in and do its job.
And then how much time, oh you know, I mean,
I would give it a couple hours, you know, down,
give it a couple hours and then take a stiff brush,
or if you wanted to take the hose on a

(17:19):
heavy spray or a power washer at that point. The
point is a power washer is not going to do
anything if we haven't loosened up the mineral content. But
if we have loosened it up, then a power washer
might successfully blow the rest of it off and not
leave any of its own efflorescence behind. Because as you know,
it is a very very gradual process. It's not like, oh,

(17:40):
you got the wall wet again and now it all
came back. It's not going to happen that way. So
acid is the key muratic. Acid is the nuclear option.
I guarantee you that will work, but that's a whole thing.
Try a vinegar solution first, give it a little time
and patience, and if it works, then depending on how

(18:01):
much there is, you might want to hire somebody or
you know, find a kid down the street who you
know needs a few extra bucks and show them how
to do it, or you're going to get out there
and do it yourself. But either way, acid is the key.
Acid is what takes effluorescence off stone, concrete and masonry.

Speaker 6 (18:17):
Okay, let me ask you this. Okay, So there was
one little section I tried with the regular white vinegar
from the house but I didn't leave it on for
two hours, so maybe that was the problem. But then
someone else came back and they said, oh no, you
can't just use household. You need to go to get
the industrial strength vinegar at home depot.

Speaker 2 (18:39):
Well, that's not a bad idea. It's not a bad
idea that it's it's it's just concentrated. That stuff at
the home depot is is concentrated the cleaning. It's still vinegar,
and it's yeah, that would take it up a next notch.
But either way, if it's been around for thirty plus years,
you got to give it time because vinegar is not
going to solve the problem.

Speaker 6 (19:01):
Okay, And I didn't do that. I just probably gave
it a few minutes, maybe ten fifteen minutes.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
No, no, no, like you know, like we you know,
you'll get scale like our teapot, right our our our
stainless steel teapot. We'll look inside and like, oh, it's
kind of got that white scally stuff on the bottom.
That's the same stuff minerally. So when when Tina wants
to clean out the teapot, she puts a little vinegar
mix in there, sets it in the sink and comes
back two hours later to rense it off. And that's

(19:30):
just scale on a teapot. So you got to give
the acid some time to do its work. The uratic
acid is so much more powerful and potent. It'll go
what way way faster, okay, But but the uh, you
just got to give it time.

Speaker 6 (19:47):
That's all okay. And you wouldn't say and the one
other suggestion that it doesn't sound like you're doing this,
the head of maintenance operations, he said, well, could you
the exterior paint? He gave a name loxon l O

(20:08):
XO and A and a paint. He said, yeah, Sherwan Williams.
And he said, and you could just you know, paint that.

Speaker 2 (20:16):
Yeah, it all else fails and I gotta go charge.
But if all else fails, sure there's nothing. I mean again,
it's a mineral, just like the mineral that the block
walls made out of. So as long as it's not
sticking out making a big scaly kind of texture mess,
you can always prime and paint the wall and it
all goes away. It's all just going to paint and

(20:38):
go away, as long as you paint it with some
good concrete or block paint and every major manufacturer of
paint makes a decent paint that does that. So yeah,
you can always paint over efflorescence as long as it's
not such a build up that it's all scaly and
goes away. But if you want to try and clean
it up, you can clean it up. But the efflorescence

(20:58):
will paint with the wall as well. Shar thank you
so much for your call. You're so very kind, and
thanks for listening to the show. Great question. We'll have
more of your calls when we return. You're Home with
Dean Sharp, the House Whisper.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI AM six FORTYFI.

Speaker 2 (21:21):
AIM six forty live streaming in HD. Just like the
man said on the free iHeart radio app, Dean Sharp,
the House Whisper here with you. We're taking calls this morning.
I want to go back to the phones. Let's talk
to David. David. Welcome home, David. Are you with us?

Speaker 3 (21:46):
So I'm with you? Can you hear me?

Speaker 2 (21:47):
Okay? There you go? Sorry, my bad, my bad? How
are you? My friend? How can I help?

Speaker 3 (21:53):
I'm just fine. I have a serious plumbing problem. I
will quickly describe it. I own a sixty year old
home that is one story high. It sits on a
concrete slab, and recently we have been detecting wetness on
the floor in various places in the house. Okay, okay,

(22:15):
And we called the plumber and he did a lot
of leak detection things, and I've quickly mentioned them and
see if you think we've covered this problem correctly. The
first thing he looked at were the hot and cold
water lines which are under the slab, and he said

(22:35):
that he believes one of them has a leak in it.
He doesn't know exactly where, but he recommends that we
replumb the house and pull all the water lines through
the attic and down the walls to all the appliances.
He wants to do the whole house everything, because he
can't he can't isolate the pipe where it would be.

(22:59):
The second thing he recommends, completely separately, is that we
descale all the drains that are under the concrete floor.
You know, he ran his camera through. You can see
there's stuff building up on the walls of the cast
iron pipes. He said they need to be de scaled

(23:24):
and then inspected very carefully to be sure there aren't
any cracks, and if there are cracks, we may have
to either relne the pipes with some kind of epoxy
liner or dig them up and completely replace them. Obviously,

(23:44):
this is all a very big job. Everything he's described
makes sense to me. I'm wondering if you have any
comments on any other thing we ought to do before
we agree to do all this work. It's a big
figure in terms of the amount of money.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah, yeah, Okay, here's the thing, David, I ran along
with a previous segment. I want to get back on schedule.
So I have answers for you. I promise you, and
I want you to hang tight with me, and we're
going to address this. Hi, Jean Sharp the house whisper,
welcome home. Thanks for joining us on the program today.

(24:26):
We've been taking your calls as we do on Saturday mornings,
and I've got David on the line. I'm going to
pop him back in here. Hey, David, he's still with me.

Speaker 3 (24:36):
Yes, I am, I'm here, Dane. Thank you all right, David.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
Sorry for cutting off before, my bad I was just
running a little long in the segment. And so David
lives in a sixty year old home and recently they've
been having plumbing issues, parts of the slab going moist
with the wetness in them. Plumber came out told him
that it's time to repipe this house. We need to

(25:03):
abandon the line the water lines that are underneath the slab,
run everything overhead. Also need to check the drains, cast
iron drain lines, clear out the calcification and the build
up in the drain lines, see if there are any cracks,
and then possibly reline the drain lines or dig them

(25:24):
up if necessary. And David's question is, do I have
any thoughts about that? Is that the right direction to go,
because obviously this is a large expense unexpectedly, And so
here we are, David, Let's parse this out piece by piece,
And that's my biggest piece of advice to you, to

(25:44):
parse this out piece by piece.

Speaker 3 (25:46):
Okay.

Speaker 2 (25:47):
One, it's one thing to repipe the house. It's another
thing to replace and or blow epoxy lining into drain lines, Okay.
And I'm not saying that both aren't necessary. What I
am saying though, is first things first, as far as
the drains are concerned, have you been experiencing bad drainage

(26:09):
or clogs in the toilet or sinks or anything like that.

Speaker 3 (26:13):
Yes, we've been experiencing bad drainage. We've had them hydro
jetted several times. We have hydrid jetted the main drain
line from the house out of the street. We had
to replace part of that line because it was full
of roots and dirt, and that they reinspected and said

(26:33):
is completely clear.

Speaker 2 (26:35):
Okay, And then how are you How are the drains
functioning for you right now?

Speaker 3 (26:42):
The drains themselves work fine, but we're getting these stamp
spots from different places around the house.

Speaker 2 (26:50):
Yeah, okay, So that's what I wanted to verify. I
know you've had some work done on the drains, but
the drains are working just fine. Because there are really
two parts to this. They're completely disconnected from each other.
And what I want to make sure you understand is
that the two jobs don't have to happen at the
same time. They don't have to happen all at once,
they don't have to happen together. Now, maybe the plumber

(27:11):
is offering you a discount if you do it all
at once, that would be one thing to consider, But
they really are completely two separate jobs. It is not
at all out of the question for slab underslab water lines.
Add in a sixty year old house, they are just done.

(27:31):
They're starting to pit even if there aren't any breaks
at the joints and the unions, they are simply starting
to pit out and leak. And that's where those those
water spots are coming from in the slab. So yes,
I agree one hundred and fifty percent, it is very

(27:51):
much time to abandon those lines. And we don't have
to take them out. We just cut them off and
abandon them, and we run all the new hot and
cold water supply for the whole house overhead in the attic,
and you're gonna be set for decades to come. That
is one job. The drain lines, having them all blown out,

(28:15):
having them, having all the calcification removed, checking for cracks,
all of that. If it's too much for you right now,
and the drains are working fine, they don't pose a
problem for you right now, So you could stage it.
You could say, all right, we're gonna repipe now, because
of what I'm trying to do is ease the financial
blast to you. You can repipe now, do the repipe,

(28:37):
and and nine times out of ten, ninety nine times
out of one hundred. The There is no money saving
separating the two or combining the two together. It simply
is what it is what it is, so you can
stage this. You don't want pressurized water failing in the house,

(28:58):
that's the hot and cold water line. Fix those, repipe
the house. And yes, I agree, the whole thing needs
to be repiped, because there is no way even if
you were to resolve the leaks that are there right now,
it's starting to pit, which means there could be a
new leak next month, and there probably will be a
new leak next year. It's just better to abandon it.

(29:19):
We don't even build new houses within in ground water
lines anymore. That's why it's such a bad idea. So
fix that, get all the water lines overhead, and then
then only then, if you've still got room in the
budget or you feel comfortable, address the drains. Otherwise, kick

(29:39):
the drain issue down the road a bit, because they're
functioning for you right now. You've had them hydrojeted, you've
had the roots removed, you've had sections replaced. You can
live with those as long as the water is running
down the drain, as long as the toilets are flushing,
as long as you're not experiencing backups in the laundry room,
you can deal with the drain at a later time.

(30:00):
It is not an emergency that's going to threaten the
health of other things in the house like flooring material
and cabinetry and carpets and all of that. But the
waterlines are do those first. And by the way, the
last thing I'm gonna tell you, David, is that you know,
just because one plumber came in and discovered it doesn't

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mean it's a treasure that they get to claim. So
you know what the problem is. Now get other estimates.
Get take an estimate from this plumber and thank him
very much. Get two or three estimates on this from
repiping plumbers so that you know you're getting the job
done for the very best price possible, and then make
that decision. Any qualified plumber me if I am not

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a qualified plumber, if I had walked into your home,
any qualified plumber would have told you, hey, you've got
slab leaks. You need to repipe the house. So it's
not like you owe this particular person anything in particular
because they discovered it and told you about it first.
Thank them for their expertise. You take a bid and
you get other bids as well to minimize that cost

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for you. And once you take three or four bids
on any one thing, you'll know you'll know what the
right price range is for what they're offering to you
as well, and you'll be able to compare them apples
to apples. David, thank you for your call.

Speaker 3 (31:21):
Good luck.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
Don't have to take the drains and the waterlines all
at once. Get the water lines dealt with. They're under
pressure and that puts you under pressure. Just do that
and then take it from there. All right, everybody, that's
it for me today. Tomorrow the big show. We're talking
new stuff. Oh I've got some seriously new technology out
there and new stuff that has to do with homes

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to talk to you all about tomorrow. So join me
again Sunday morning, nine to noon. We'll be right back
here until then, get out there and get busy building
yourself a beautiful life. This has been Home with Deanshaw
Marp the House Whisper. Tune into the live broadcast on
KFI AM six forty every Saturday morning from six to

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eight Pacific time, and every Sunday morning from nine to
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