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December 22, 2024 35 mins
In hour three of All Calls Weekend, Dean continues taking listener calls and providing expert advice on a range of home improvement topics. He starts by discussing attic insulation, explaining how Southern California homes are typically not designed for attics to be part of the conditioned air space and the importance of maintaining proper insulation levels, especially when converting attic space for storage. Next, Dean helps an apartment renter dealing with noisy pipes, distinguishing between the common creeping or clicking sounds caused by expanding materials
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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all calls weekend and nothing but your calls today. And
I want to get back to the phone so we
can get as many calls in as possible. I want
to talk to Ginger. Ginger, welcome home.

Speaker 2 (00:59):
Here, thank you? Can you hear me?

Speaker 3 (01:03):
I can? How can I help?

Speaker 4 (01:06):
Well?

Speaker 5 (01:07):
I have a question about the attic area in my home.
My home has a little entry to the attic in
the area between the two front bedrooms. There's a little
opening there and I have to get a ladder to

(01:28):
climb up and get up into the attic through that section.
The section that is connected to the kitchen area is
all floored and I can put things up there and
store things there. But the whole other section of the house,
the entire complete attic area, is just covered with the

(01:52):
foam insulation thing. And when I have made my way
up into that little opening that's in the hallway between
the bedrooms, it's dark and there's nothing but full m insulation.
And I was wondering if it's okay for me to

(02:17):
try and put down flooring up there so that I
could get up there and do something with the space
without having to have a license or or feeds that
I have to pay with the city and things like that.

(02:39):
And also at one point in time, I had seen
these ingenious little slats that are like roll They're like
rolls that you roll out, and there's slats that end
up being a floor. And I don't know if they're
still around anywhere.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
But if they are, I if you were aware.

Speaker 5 (03:01):
Of them, and if that would be something I could do.

Speaker 1 (03:06):
Okay, So a lot of pack a lot of stuff
packed into those questions there, I am going to disappoint
you on on a couple of levels, but let me
start with a positive one. Yeah, I've seen those slats.
Those are great. Uh they're basically roll mats. They're they're
rigid roll mats, and uh they can come in they
can come in handy in a lot of situations. Okay,

(03:26):
So there's nothing wrong with them. There's they're out there around.
You can probably find them on Amazon these days or
other places like that.

Speaker 3 (03:33):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (03:34):
Here's the thing, Ginger, everybody wants to utilize as much
attic space as possible these days for storage and stuff
like that. I get it, I get it. I totally
totally understand that. Uh, however, our homes and and and
where where is it that you live, Ginger, that's to

(03:54):
me valley out and see me valley.

Speaker 3 (03:56):
Okay.

Speaker 1 (03:57):
So uh, our homes uh in some in California buy
and large are not designed for addicts to be a part.
I mentioned this earlier in the show, to be a
part of the conditioned air space of the house. That
means that insulation a nice thick layer of insulation fiberglass
or cellulose insulation, whether it's rolled bats or whether it's

(04:21):
blown in, but a nice thick layer equivalent to R
thirty for energy savings and all of that air conditioning
expanse heating expense and the like, your general comfort in
the home. R thirty is what we're shooting for in
the attic, and that's thick. That's thick stuff. When people

(04:42):
go up into their attics and make platforms, in other words,
create an area of flooring. I don't have any big
issue with that, okay, but just got to understand every
square foot of flooring that you create up in your
attic space for storage, you are squishing down and minimizing,

(05:04):
and you're reducing your attic insulation below the line of
what where the bar should be set. Okay, because if
you've got I'm gonna guess in SeeMe Valley tracked home
in SeeMe Valley, if we've got two by six ceiling
joists running across the room, six inches or five and

(05:26):
a half inches of space for insulation is not enough
to reach that R thirty marker. So if we've squished
it down because we've put plywood up there for storage,
now you know, a few square feet fine, you know
who's gonna know the difference. You probably won't notice the difference,
but the more you do that up in your attic,

(05:48):
the more of that area that you squish down and
minimize that insulation, then the more compromised insulation wise your
home becomes. And and just to add on to that,
some people will go overboard when it comes to the
amount of storage up there. Some people even say, well,
my roof is high enough, I could make a room

(06:09):
up there. Well, that's debatable because if it was never
designed to have human habitation up in there, then there's
also a very distinct chance that the ceiling joists themselves
are not floor joist rated. They're just ceiling joist rated.
They're not designed to support a tremendous amount of hundreds

(06:31):
or thousands of pounds of weight. So my answer to
the question is a qualified Sure, you could add a
little bit of storage area up in an attic, but
no that every time you do it, we are compromising
the insulation of the house. And that most Southern California
single story homes, well second story homes too, it doesn't

(06:55):
really matter. Most attics in Southern California are not designed
to be load bearing in any significant sense or insulation
compromised attic space When you put a platform up there
so that's my concern. My concern about accessing the attic
in that way is that we run the risk of
messing up the thermal continuity of the house, and you

(07:22):
can overload an attic, and that's not a good thing
as well. Now can it be done? Of course, I
was just saying before the break anything can be done.
If you are so committed to storage in a certain
area of your attic and you want to preserve the
insulated quality, then you could spill that area underneath the
platform with rigid insulation. It's going to be more expensive.

(07:46):
Rigid insulation that compensates for the loss of the loft
of the fluffy stuff basically, but that's more expensive, and
it's very intentional. And if we're really starting to put
lots of load up there, and we need to talk
to an engineer about whether the kind of stuff we
want to store up there is actually going to be
well supported by the house, or if it's going to

(08:08):
put too much of a load on those poor little ceiling. Joyce,
whose job originally was just to hold some insulation and
hold up the drywall on the lid of the ceiling.
That's the best I can tell you. Side unseen ginger.
So think those things through and then make decisions accordingly.
And thank you so much for your call. All right

(08:28):
more when we return your home Dean Sharp the house
whisper on KFI.

Speaker 6 (08:34):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI AM six forty.

Speaker 1 (08:41):
You have landed right in the center of our all
calls Sunday morning, nothing but your calls today. I'm just
taking calls. Love doing this every few weeks. I want
to get back to the phones right now so we
can get as many calls in as possible. Let's talk
to David A David, I'll come home.

Speaker 4 (09:02):
Thank you, Dean. I'm in Venice Beach. I live in
an apartment, so I feel like I represent all the
apartment renters. We don't usually own a home. And the
building I live in was built in nineteen twelve. There's
three stories and I'm on the top floor. There are
three stories, and about seven or eight months ago the
levelode replaced the water heater and since then it wakes

(09:23):
me up at night because of I guess people taking
a shower because the pipes are banging for between five
and twenty seconds sometimes during the week, and I was
wondering how I can explain to my lavelorad is I'm
sorry to say, but lazy doesn't want to admit that
it's just bothering and keeping me awake. So how does
it make such a noise that I think it's pipe expanding?

(09:44):
Do their rub against something? And what can I say?

Speaker 1 (09:50):
I don't know what you can say with a lazy
landlord who doesn't want to do anything, but you can
talk to him about the problem though, And so are
we talking about? So there's two kinds of noise that
people sometimes experience when it comes to their hot water
systems or there's water in general. Number one is, Uh,

(10:13):
there's this there's a like a what a lot of
people describe as a creeping or clicking sound like that
happens when when hot water is being used.

Speaker 3 (10:26):
Uh.

Speaker 1 (10:26):
And then there's that banging sound literally like you know
this banging sound.

Speaker 3 (10:32):
Which of the two are you experiencing?

Speaker 4 (10:35):
It's a mix between the two. It's the sound is
like the banging, but the space between the bang is
more space are like dum dum dum dum dum dum
dum tum or sometimes slower it slows down.

Speaker 3 (10:47):
Yeah, yeah, all right, so what you get is, uh,
is the the new it's weird. UH.

Speaker 1 (10:57):
Plumbing systems are even really well designed systems, they are
essentially it turns out sometimes like a giant, a giant instrument.

Speaker 3 (11:09):
You know, you got a lot.

Speaker 1 (11:09):
Of pipes, and you got stuff flowing through it, and
depending on the twists and the turns that it makes
and so on, you get weird noises out of pipes.
Sometimes most common is what we call water hammer, okay,
and that's that thudding sound. And you could be in
a building for you know, one hundred years and not

(11:32):
have water hammer, and then all of a sudden, you know,
somebody changes out the water heater, changes the pressure relationship
of the building. Maybe the water heat. Maybe the new
water heater is out putting hotter water than the previous one.
Maybe it's putting it out at slightly a different pressure
or flow level. There could all be all these little

(11:54):
subtle changes, and all of a sudden, now we're getting
water hager hammer. Fortunately, in most cases it's a pretty
simple fix. And that is and you could tell your
landlord thisys, hey, you put in the new water heater,
but now we're getting water hammer really bad in the house.
Would you please have a water hammer a restor installed

(12:18):
near the water heater, okay? And what a water hammer
arrestor is. It's literally it's an extension of the pipe.
You know, it inserts. It could insert, for instance, in
between the water heater hoses and the hot water line
feed for the rest of the building. And it's literally
got a little kind of a column sticking out from it.

(12:39):
And inside that column is essentially a shock absorber for water.
There's a big spring and a diaphragm, and as that
water comes unevenly flowing through the pipes and that vibration
starts to form, this thing will receive a lot of
that vibration into itself and not send it knocking down

(13:00):
through the pipes. Now, sometimes it takes more than one,
and sometimes it's a great idea to install them in
different locations. But a you know, a water hammer a restor,
I mean you can get a two pack of them
for like twenty five dollars, so and they're an easy
install okay, And so that would be I think that

(13:20):
would be my first line of approach to your landlord,
who obviously doesn't want to do a whole lot that
often just say listen. It is a problem, and a
lot of us hear it, and I don't want to be,
you know, complaining about it. But honestly, ever since the
new water here went in, we're hearing this thing. And

(13:42):
so you know, there's an I'm told there's an easy
fix for it. You know, could you please step forward
and deal with that? And you know what, when if
it's an easy, inexpensive fix, you know, maybe he'll move
on it. Maybe he'll he'll shift and make it happen.
But that's ultimately what that is, my friend. And do

(14:05):
you happen to have our laundry facilities in each apartment?
It's an old apartment building, so I'm guessing not. But
do you have like a washer drug in your unit?

Speaker 7 (14:16):
No?

Speaker 3 (14:16):
No one does, Okay, nobody does.

Speaker 1 (14:20):
Another place where you might be able to help yourself
with this is you could install one of these you know,
twelve fifteen dollars water hammer devices, like underneath your sink
in the kitchen, okay, because anywhere they are located anywhere
along the lines, or underneath the sink in the bathroom,

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or get a couple of them, put one in each
place anywhere on that system where these shock absorbers are
they will help mute the vibration, so ask your landlord first,
but maybe you go out and pop a couple underneath
your own sinks and see if that helps as well.

Speaker 4 (15:00):
Fantastic. I love that information. Thank you so much, David.

Speaker 1 (15:03):
You are so welcome. Happy holidays, my friend. Thanks for calling.
Great question. All right, y'all, we got more to come.
More of your calls. Right after.

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Speaker 1 (15:21):
Live streaming and HD everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. You
are Home with Dean Sharp, the house whisper. That's me
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weeks we get to clear the decks and I just
get to answer your questions because it's an all calls
Sunday morning, and I want to get back to the

(15:41):
phones right now.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Let's talk to Marie. Hey, Marie, welcome home.

Speaker 2 (15:49):
Thank you. My question to you is if I want
to explain what happens if it's usual or unusual. I
had a water leak from the second flour. They came
down through the wall in the dining room and the
joining kitchen, so they had to remove the cabinet that

(16:13):
was next to the wall that was compromised with this leak.
But on top of that cabinet I have a gas
countertop stove, So any rate, it was all. They replaced
the counter the cabinet, and they did very nice job
as far as that goes. But my home is fifty

(16:34):
years over fifty years old, and the original stove countertop
was electricity, so somewhere along the line I had gas
put in. So there is the gas line that was
showing that. I never saw it in the cabinet under
the stove where I put all my pots and pants. Well,

(16:54):
when this contractor came and they replaced the cabinet, and
now all the the gas pipe is exposed inside the
cabinet along with I didn't even know I had an
electrical outlet under there, but I guess you need that.
So the gas stove turned on the.

Speaker 4 (17:16):
Stove.

Speaker 2 (17:17):
Well, anyway, I did not see that prior to all
this problem, and all I could think of this, there's
one shelf in this cabinet and maybe it was below
that and I never noticed. I don't know. Anyway, all
this is exposed and they want to put like a
little box around it. So I think it's a Mickey
mouse job. But on the other hand, is this is

(17:41):
this okay as it happened before? Do I need to
really insist that they tear everything out do it all
over again. I'm really up a creek. I don't know
what to do.

Speaker 1 (17:52):
I got you, Yeah you did, you did. Let me
try and summarize. I had the cabinet switched out, and
now you, for the first time noticed you never saw
them before. You notice the gas line that's connecting the
gas cook top. It's back there in the back, and
you notice the electrical and.

Speaker 3 (18:14):
So is it in the way or do you just
see it?

Speaker 4 (18:21):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (18:22):
No, it's all the cable and the wire for the electricity.
They're all exposed. So if they put a little box
around it, I'm going to lose some space. Well, it's
not that bad, but I just wanted to know. Is
this something that if I go to sell this house,
am I going to have a problem?

Speaker 1 (18:42):
No, I doubt it, as long as as long as
everything is in case the way it should be. In
other words, any electricity that's running on the outside of
a wall has to be inside a metal protective conduit.
The gas line itself a lot of people have posed
gas line connections underneath their cook tops in their homes,

(19:05):
and so now ideally, ideally, okay, so you know I'm
going to play both sides of the coin here, ideally,
And understand, I come from a world of contracting where
every little detail matters to us a lot. Okay, So
if I if I am reconfiguring a cabinet for a

(19:27):
new cook top, you know we find out okay, the
owner has selected this cook top, this gas cooktop. I
get on the specs right away. I want to find
out where does the gas connect to that cooktop? Okay,
it's oh, it's the upper left hand corner. Okay, Where
is the gas line coming out of the old cabinet bay? Now, oh,
it's the lower right hand corner.

Speaker 2 (19:47):
All right.

Speaker 1 (19:47):
If that's the case, Dean does not run a diagonal
pipe all the way across the backside of the cabinet
to get from the old place where it popped out
to the new connection. What I do is I open
up the wall and we reconfigure the gas line so
that it is popping out, if not directly behind the

(20:08):
cook top, at least as close to it as humanly possible,
so that it's as clean and as out of the
way as possible, And the same is true for electrical
conduits and all of that stuff. Now, I get it.
You know, other contractors come in and they're like, well,
that's where it was sticking out of the wall, and
that's where you make the connection.

Speaker 3 (20:28):
That's what it has to be. Well, it's not what
it has to be.

Speaker 1 (20:30):
But at the end of the day, would it have
been nice if the contractor had reconfigured the electrical and
the gas in this cabinet so that it was high
and tight and clean and clear and out of the way.

Speaker 3 (20:46):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (20:46):
Is it possible to completely make it all go away? No,
But should it have been done as tight as possible.

Speaker 3 (20:53):
Yes.

Speaker 1 (20:54):
Now, if it's not completely in the way of everything,
is it worth making a stink and having them pull
the cabinet out and redo it? Only you, Marie, can
make that decision based on how important this is to
you and how much you know of a fight you

(21:15):
want to have with the cabinet guy or the contractor
at this point, because if it's not in your way,
I mean, let's face it, it's not like one of
these things that's out in the open, right, It's not
like it's ruining the look of your kitchen. It's down
inside underneath it. So if it's not in your way,
you know, I'm not going to tell you one way
or the other. You got to make that decision. But
I am agreeing with you wholeheartedly that Yes, wouldn't it

(21:37):
be lovely to live in a world where every builder
who walks into your home their first priority is how
are we going to get this done the absolute best
that it can be done, and suggest these things to
the client, as opposed to them having to tell us
after the fact. Well, I would have preferred if you
had taken a little more energy and time and effort

(21:58):
and thoughtfulness. I never want to hear that from a client,
so I try and stay out out here.

Speaker 2 (22:05):
Yeah, thank you, I agree with that. I just also
want to mention one other things to your listeners. I
needed to have a restoration company come in to clean
the mold, and so that company's person took out the
cabinet because it did have mold on the bottom, So
I thought, okay. Then they recommended this construction company who

(22:28):
came in, and those four souls didn't see how everything
was lined up prior to this, so had I realized
what was going on, I would have said that one
person that took it out should be the one person
putting it back in, or should have been around, And
that didn't happen. So I think it was a little
bit of a sloppy job, and I learned a great
deal from this. I never had problems with contractors before,

(22:52):
but this I did. So it was a learning experience
I truly didn't need. But anyway, thank you for your
confirmation and on. It could have been done a little nicer,
but it shouldn't prove problem if they put a little
box around to hidle those I hate for my pots
and pants to be touching that every time I go
in and out. You know how you kind of push

(23:12):
your pants in yep, and it's touching. Okay, thank you,
thank you very very much.

Speaker 6 (23:18):
And so.

Speaker 2 (23:20):
Yes, and your wise wisdom about the insurance earlier, my
my insurance company wouldn't pay for the leak in the
in the in the wall, and I was with them
for sixty six years. So yes, read that contract very
very well. Yeah, thank you so much for your show.
Thank you.

Speaker 3 (23:39):
Huh, thank you, Marie, thank you. Good luck with that.

Speaker 1 (23:42):
Yeah, that's a hard one, you know, like, you know,
how how far do you twist a contractor's arm too,
you know, if it's an aesthetic issue. I mean, honestly,
I'm there's never there's never any leeway with Dean. I'm like,
look right there, that looks terrible. You are fixing that
if it's underneath and technically, I mean it's all done

(24:05):
to code, but it was just not thought through as
well as possible. But it's hidden underneath the cabinet. Ah.
That's where my contractor empathy and my lack of desire
to tear out my kitchen again kind of piles up
on me. And I'm like, oh fine, fine, don't want
to have to make those decisions though, you all feel me.

Speaker 3 (24:28):
All right more?

Speaker 1 (24:30):
When we return your Home with Dean Sharp the house
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Speaker 6 (24:36):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
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Speaker 3 (24:44):
Look at us.

Speaker 1 (24:45):
We've come near the end of another three hours together,
our final program before Christmas twenty twenty four and Hanukkah
as well, all starting up right about the same twenty
four hour period this time around. This is the week
we're leading into we are doing an all calls Sunday,

(25:06):
and I want to try and take one more call
if I can, and then leave you with a quick
closing thought, send you off on your way to where
should I go? Let's talk to Barbara? Hey, Barbara, welcome home.

Speaker 7 (25:24):
Hi, thank you for taking my call.

Speaker 3 (25:28):
You are very welcome. How can I help you?

Speaker 7 (25:31):
Well, while I've been waiting on the line, my question
kind of expanded. It started out that I live in
a house in the hills that was built in nineteen
fifty five, and I have done nothing, absolutely nothing based
on I have no money and I really kind of

(25:52):
don't care. I mean, I'm not one of those people
that wants the perfect house. So down the line, I'm
realized that it's old. It's really old like me, I'm
eighty five, and things are, you know, popping up, and
I'm wondering how safe is my house? It's an old,
stuckold thing. And I originally what I was wondering about

(26:17):
was the beam ceilings in the living room. How long
do these guys live? I mean, are they going to
collapse on me at some point? Or are they forever?

Speaker 3 (26:26):
What do you think? Uh? Have you got it? You've
got exposed beams in your living room.

Speaker 1 (26:31):
Yeah, okay, uh is there any sign of like, uh,
dry rod or termite damage or anything like that, not
that I know of.

Speaker 2 (26:41):
But I can't see up there, you know. I mean
it's you know, up high, but to my knowledge, it's all.

Speaker 1 (26:50):
Okay, okay, well you know it's old, yeah, but it's
not that old, not in term not in house terms.

Speaker 3 (26:58):
Okay, oh good, good good.

Speaker 1 (27:00):
You know, you know, you and I we're not going
to make it one hundred and twenty years, one hundred
and fifty years, but a house can very easily if
it's maintained. Okay, And I know you haven't really been
concerned about that in the past. So here's my recommendation, Barbara.

Speaker 3 (27:17):
And this.

Speaker 1 (27:19):
Despite the expansiveness, it's actually the expansiveness of your question
that makes this very concise recommendation for you give yourself
a Christmas present this year of calling a home inspection
service and having a home inspector. And when I mean
by a home inspector, I'm not talking about the city

(27:41):
or anything like that. I'm talking about the kind of
home inspection service that gets called out when the a
realtor hooks you up with when a house is being sold, right,
there's a home inspection that's part of the selling process
of the house. An inspector walks through the house and
they poke through the house, and they check the plumbing,
and they check electrical and they check in the attic,

(28:02):
and they look underneath and they and their whole job
is to do a superficial, superficial inspection. In other words,
they're not going to cut into your home or drill
into your but an observational, superficial inspection and give a
report that evaluates the condition of just about everything, all

(28:24):
the major systems, the roof, the plumbing, the HVAC, the
you know, the condition of sinks and faucets and switches
and just all that kind of stuff. If there is
evidence of dry rot, they'll let you know. If there's
evidence of termite or other infestation, they'll let you know.
It's a few hundred dollars. But for a house that

(28:48):
admittedly you have not really put a lot into over
the last few decades, maybe it's time for a professional
an objective. And here's what I like about home inspection services.
They're not contractors. In other words, they're not there thinking, well,

(29:09):
you know, I could certainly tell her to replace this,
and then I could get the job to do it.
They just do home inspections.

Speaker 3 (29:15):
That's it.

Speaker 1 (29:16):
So not unlike myself sitting here on this side of
the microphone. They have no vested interest in telling you
that there's something wrong with your house or not wrong
with your house. You're paying them to make it.

Speaker 7 (29:29):
I'm so good, right, I never, I never would have
thought of something like this. I mean, I still have
two prong outlets there. I go nothing. You know, nothing's
been changed. But how can you recommend a home inspection?
I never I mean I probably heard the name before,

(29:50):
but I don't know how to start.

Speaker 1 (29:54):
You're gonna have to dig into that because home inspections
some where, some larger companies are kind of cover it,
have a large coverage area. Others are very localized. So
you I'm looking here. You live in Sherman Oaks, so
you're looking for somebody in the valley. There's a ton
of them. You can just go online, do a little
research enter that in. If you've got a friend who's

(30:18):
a realtor if you know anybody, they'll be able to
recommend or ask relatives or neighbors or friends. These guys
are around, guys, gals, these people they're around. But that's
what I think your house could really benefit for. And
you'd have the peace of mind of knowing you just
had this home inspection done. You're paying them to make
a report. That's what they're gonna do, good, bad or otherwise,

(30:40):
and they're not going to fudge the results one way
or the other because they're not going to be doing
the work or not doing the work. They're going to
do their job, and you're going to get an objective
view of your home. And you know, if there's anything
pertinent that really needs to be addressed right away, you'll
be able to address it. And if they're isn't anything

(31:01):
that needs to be addressed, then you can just go
right ahead, not putting a whole lot in your house,
and you know, continue on with your glorious life. Barbara,
thank you so much. That was a great call. What
an energized gal.

Speaker 8 (31:15):
You know what I got out of Barbara Eardan, Yes,
Andrew what but the very beginning of her calls, she
lives in the hills and she has no money. As
a broke millennial. Barbara is living the American dream. God,
so God bless her.

Speaker 3 (31:30):
That's so true. Oh it's so true. Andrew.

Speaker 1 (31:34):
You're you're stepping up to the news now for how
long afternoon?

Speaker 3 (31:40):
Twelve to six?

Speaker 8 (31:41):
So anyone that's in the traffic trying to get in
and out of LA I'll be here for them.

Speaker 2 (31:45):
All right.

Speaker 3 (31:45):
Well you heard it.

Speaker 1 (31:46):
Anybody who's in that situation, it's Andrew's fault, totally, Andrew's fault.
From now until six, all traffic.

Speaker 5 (31:53):
Is it.

Speaker 3 (31:54):
I do know it's the end of your show.

Speaker 8 (31:55):
So I just wanted to say Merry Christmas and happy
holidays to you and your wife.

Speaker 1 (31:59):
Brother. The same comes right back to you and you
and Lucky the rooster, who I have not physically seen
today yet, but you've seen him. You've seen Lucky, proof
of life, proof of you have a photo of Lucky
holding a newspaper. We can make that happen, all right,

(32:20):
everybody here we are. You know, here's a quick thought.
I didn't even bother to send this to Elmer today,
So Elmer, just, you know, just roll the music whenever
you feel like we're there. It's not going to take
too long.

Speaker 3 (32:34):
I just want to say that.

Speaker 1 (32:36):
I want to watch everybody a very very happy holidays.
I would leave you with this. However, you may celebrate
this time of year. Just celebrate, Just celebrate. Life is short,
life is uneven and imperfect, life is hard. Never turned
down an opportunity to celebrate. You know, the oldest of

(32:58):
wintertime celebrates. We're entirely tied to the fact that life
is imperfect and tough. Okay, it's not this idyllic Norman
Rockwell kind of vision that so many people get depressed over.
If you are having a hard time this year, just
understand that, you know, that's what winter celebrations are about.

(33:20):
They're about hanging on, holding on to hope, lighting a
candle in the dark, and staying connected. So they're connected
to these concerns about the future, how harsh everything is
around us. You can relate. Yeah, it doesn't have to
be snow and ice. It is sickness, loss, wind, fire.

Speaker 3 (33:42):
Right.

Speaker 1 (33:42):
Since the dawn of human history, this time of year
has always been about meditations on whether we will have
enough to get through the dark times and the tough times.
And since the dawn of human history, humans have countered
those concerns by celebrating what we have, are gathering together,
sharing our food, our shelter, our family, holding each other close.

(34:06):
That's what this time of year has always been about.
It's about overcoming a worrisome, fragile existence with powerful truths,
the deepest magic that humans can conjure, love, joy, peace
and hope.

Speaker 3 (34:23):
And so.

Speaker 1 (34:25):
Celebrate the holidays, celebrate them, and when you're done, meet
me back here again next week and together we'll get
back to work building yourself a beautiful life. Everybody, Merry Christmas,
Happy Honika. We'll see you next weekend. This has been

(34:50):
Home with Dean Sharp, the House Whisper. Tune into the
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