October 26, 2025 • 30 mins
ean is talking today about how to NOT live in a haunted home.
Ghost hunters, this one’s for you! Dean’s “kid sister” Darcy, a scholar at Cal State University and a tour guide for Haunted OC, is in studio to talk about all things paranormal. She’ll be joining the lucky winners as the tour guide of the possibly haunted Kellogg House!
Dean talks about how best to treat old, squeaky hardwood floors.
In the 1920s, what percentage of American homes had indoor plumbing?
Ghost hunters, this one’s for you! Dean’s “kid sister” Darcy, a scholar at Cal State University and a tour guide for Haunted OC, is in studio to talk about all things paranormal. She’ll be joining the lucky winners as the tour guide of the possibly haunted Kellogg House!
Dean talks about how best to treat old, squeaky hardwood floors.
In the 1920s, what percentage of American homes had indoor plumbing?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
KFI AM six forty. You're listening to Dean Sharp the
House Whisper on demand on the iHeartRadio app every week
your guide to better understanding that place where you live.
Every home, my friend, every home has a path forward.
Once you see it, that's when everything changes. And that's
(00:20):
what I'm here to help you with today. On the show,
We're gonna have some Halloween fun today, it's going to
be useful, practical, interesting, fun, entertaining everything. It's an everything
show literally where usually it's only just one of those
maybe maybe just one if if any of them at all.
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Today on the show, here's what I've titled the show.
I'll just tell you it's how not to live in
a haunted house. That's what we're talking about today. So
I'm gonna split our time today on the program between
using that little nuance to talk to you about stuff
that makes weird noises and disturbing behaviors in your home.
(01:03):
You know, the toilet that sounds like somebody's using it,
it's hissing it three in the morning, the floors that squeak,
the weird sounds, the popping, grunting, groaning sounds coming from
the attic, the scurrying that you hear overhead in the
attic like something's alive up there it is, and all
of that. So we're gonna just take all of that
(01:24):
goofiness and turn it into a program where I get
to tell you some tips and some tricks about getting
rid of those noises. But but we're gonna share that
time with my very special in studio guest. I mean
very special. My kid's sister is here, a kid. I'm
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just you know, we're just embracing We're embracing our youngness.
Darcy Staniforth, my kid's sister. She is a professor at
cal State Fullerton, and she also is on the side
a lover of all things paranormal. I'm gonna let her
introduce her full bio to you so you all know.
But Darcy sitting across the table from me this morning,
(02:06):
Darcy is the one who is actually going to be
hosting our VIP House Whisper Ghost Tour tomorrow night at
the Kellogg House at the Heritage Museum of Orange County.
And she is an expert on all things Kellogg House
and everything that's going on there, including the alleged paranormal activity.
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I just say alleged because I just want everybody to
keep an open mind. And so hey, babe, and by
the way, yes, I will be referring to through the
show as babe because she is my sister. So please
no calls to hr dars. Love you. I'm so glad
that you're here.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'm so glad that i'm here.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
This is always fun to do because you're not gonna
have me on for really any other.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Nope, nothing else, nothing else. You will be here for
exactly zero Home improvemn advice.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Now I'll just be like, don't do that. Don't you.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Brother, call my brother. That's it. That's the end.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
My brother is either the guy or he's got a guy.
That's what it's gonna be, exactly. But yeah, I'm really excited.
I'm really excited for our tour tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's gonna be fun. I mean, your tours are awesome.
You get all dressed up in period Victorian war. We
love a car that's still happening. You're still doing that.
And I can show up like in just sweats. It's
just like Laker sweats.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I'm just the most apathetic ghost somebody.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You're like, hey, what's it?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You know, what's going on? Everyone? This is fine. Let
me tell you about some ghosts.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Now, we know I've seen some ghost hunter shows that
they're never concerned about fashion. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
No, but they're also not concerned with yelling at the beyond.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
We're not gonna yell at the beyond. We're not gonna
yell come at me.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Ghost if maybe if people wore better clothes, they'd get
more responsive, you know what, especially older ghosts, you think
if you're talking to like Victorian age ghosts, dress up right.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Give your of a haircut, put on a tie. Absolutely,
And I'm also going to tell you that, uh, it's
what I call brost hunting, like a bunch of bros.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Just that's true. That is so true, bro hunting.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
What's up? Settle down?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Like you, You would not have a good reaction if
a bunch of people came in your house and were
like what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Oh? Why are you here? Like, please stop yelling at me.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I see the ghosts in the back room. They're like, Selven,
someone's in the house again. They're like, oh, those barbarians.
I'm not talking to them. I have no interest in
talking to them. You think someone could wear a cravat.
That's all I'm saying, especially a cravat.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So for those of you who have one ticket so far,
make sure to bring your cravat tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
If you want to get you want to get some
ghost action.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
If you want some ghost action, a cravat, perhaps a petticoat,
a bustle.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
A waistcoat for the gentleman, Yes, a good waist that's
a vest. By the way, a waistcoat is a vest.
It's not a coat that you tie around your waist.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
No, that's called your sweatshirt.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah. So no, no, please, you don't. You do not
have to dress up.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Do not dress I will be costuming. I will be
in full Victorian morning tomorrow night. The rest of you
don't have to be so.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
On that note, yes you, this goes beyond just a
subtle interest in the paranormal. You in your studies, in
your research, in your degree program. It's been studies on death,
about death, denial about you know, it's an American studies thing.
Just give everybody your bio.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Sure, So, my academic field is American studies, which is
the how and why of American history and culture, and
my deep dive I do work on race and ethnicity,
gender and sexuality, ideals and institutions. But my deep dive
is death dying in Greek in American culture. So I
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do a lot of work around not just death nile
and grief avoidance, because we are death avoidant and grief
avoidant culture for sure. I've done a TED talk on death,
grief and the college student and how we can better
serve our college students in their times of loss, And
right now I'm working on a proposal for a project
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around how we can use haunted tourism to engage death
education because in a really simple way, and I know
my art Bell listeners might be I guess my George
Norri listeners would be. If you're listening to art Bell,
please call us because I want to know how you're
contacting them. But our coast to coast listeners, I'm not
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trying to get into a battle with you all about
what a ghost is. But on the simplest terms, if
we're talking about ghosts, we're talking about death, because how else, Yeah,
do you get a ghost?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Right, George, everybody who listens to George nor is asleep
right now.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, that's because they stayed up all night that's really fair.
That's really fair. They stayed up all night, so your
board operator.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Doesn't have to be like, what did you do?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
What did you do exactly? Please know coast to coast
calls at this time. But so and that's what I
love about that's what our VIP guests. And by the way,
we're going to be giving away tickets every hour during
the show today. Those will be the last of our tickets.
It's a limited group because there's only so many people
who can go through the Kellogg House at one time.
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But we'll be talking about its architecture today. But it's history.
And that's what I love about you, the way you
do this tour, because so much of it is about
the way that Victorians Americans just one hundred and twenty
years ago, the way they faced and dealt with death
and dying, versus the way we face. And sometimes we
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look back from our vantage point here and we think, oh,
that's weird, that's morbid, that's but when you really understand it,
you know it's a culture that actually had to deal
with death a lot more face to face than we
do and had ways of processing it.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Absolutely, and you know, Victorian death culture is something that
I talk a lot about, not just on the tour,
but I've given a couple talks just this season on
post warning photography and the historical context around that, because
we have to think about the fact that in.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
The eighteen hundreds, photography is this brand new medium.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yes, and you know, you might pick up your phone
and have a million photos of your loved ones, but
that might have been.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
The photo the only one. Yeah, and the deceased person
is the one who is in clearest. We'll talk about
that on the other side. Which one is dead, the
one that's completely sharp in the image?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Completely sure?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
All right, we'll talk about that on the other side.
We got to go to break and when we come
back we will continue more great stuff on the way
your Home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
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Speaker 1 (08:49):
Good morning, my friend, and welcome to the program. It
is always a privilege and a pleasure to be with
you on a Sunday morning, especially a beautiful Sunday morning
here in southern California. I don't know where it is,
what the weather looks like exactly where you are, but
out where we are. It is still misty and overcast
and just feeling very autumn like. And that's what I like,
(09:12):
especially since this time of year. You know, famously we
could be having one hundred degree temperatures and Santa Ana wins.
And now that I said that, I'm sure they're on
their way. But today, today, yeah, I know, Thanks Dean,
Thanks today things are looking good. I hope wherever you
are across this country that the weather is treating you
well and that you are in the autumn spirit. This
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Friday is Halloween is the part. This is actually the last.
I cannot believe this is our last show in October.
Where did October go? I have no idea, but this
is our last show for October, and then when we
come back Saturday of this coming week, it will be
November first, which is freaky weird to me, but it
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is Halloween time and I always try and take the
show right before Halloween and have a little fun with it.
So we're talking about how not to live in a
haunted house today by way of like, you know, the
stuff in your home that makes weird noises and how
to deal with that. But also my very special in
studio guest somebody who I have loved for a long
long time, literally deeply loved. My kid's sister, Darcy Standforth,
(10:20):
is sitting across the table from me. She is an
American study scholar at cal State Fullerton, but she also
is involved with Haunted OC. And I know you gave
you the rest of your bio before, but tell us
about Haunted OC. Who are, by the way, who are
sponsoring the VIP House Whisper ghost tour of the Kellogg
House tomorrow night. It's tomorrow night, and we're giving tickets
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away during the show today as well, But dars So,
tell us about hanted OC.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
So. Hanted o C is Orange County's longest running ghost tours,
locally owned, locally run, and our focus is haunted historical
ghost tours. So you're going to get good history, and
I don't just mean like interesting history, but accurate history
that's important as well as some really great ghost stories.
(11:09):
And so we have tours. I do the Santa Anatore
as well as the Kellogg House tour that we're doing
with your VIPs tomorrow night. But we have got San
Juan Capistrano, we have downtown Fullerton, we have old Town
Orange Black Star Canyon. And actually right now as we're
wrapping up the Halloween season, we have got the Disney
Mansion in Los Feliz, which is a private right Walt
(11:30):
Walts House, Yeah, the house he built during Snow White
and it's incredible. And then we're also doing what I
call after hours at Bowers Ghosts and Legends of the
Bowers Museums.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So but we every.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Season is spooky season at Hanad, Orange County because we
run these tours all year long. So when people are
like I missed June October, I'm like, great, come see
me in March, January. You want a little spookiness at Christmas,
I'll see you in December.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
But it's great history though, I mean, and it's great.
It's great history. It's great. And as a lover of
history and all things just you know, weird and wild,
it's just great.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It's such.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It's it's a great bridge to build with people, right
because a lot of folks don't they'll say I'm not
really into history because they can't see themselves in it.
They don't know how to make that connection. And so
I'm always trying to build bridges for people to cross over,
to connect with that history, and I say like, if
you're not here for the ghosts, I'll get you with
the architecture. If I don't get you the architecture, I'll
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get you with the history. And my hope is that
people come away learning some good local history and having
a great time.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Right. We took a ghost tour when we were in Montreal.
Was it last year of the year before I've lost
all track of time, but uh, and it was old
town Montreal. It was fun, it was and you could
see that they were there were another I'm the nerd
who will sign up for the history tour just period,
flat out right. But you could see there were folks
on the tour who were like, you know, okay, this
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is interesting stuff. And then all of a sudden, the
tour guide, you know, she put on like her pirate voice,
and she said and it was here that she threw
herself down from the third story window.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And then suddenly they were like, oh cool, cool, So
what you're saying and I need to do all tomorrow
night in a pirate way.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Well, you know what, I'm trying to think of the
incentive to give you for doing that, if you would
actually do that.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I mean Hiram loved salient ships. There you go know
that there were pirate ships. But we can throw a
pirate voice in there. That's fine, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So just so you know, if you're vuying for a
ticket for tomorrow night, at some point, at some point,
I'm not going to commit you to the whole thing.
At some point Darcy will do at least a portion
of the tour in a pirate voice.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
And a pirate voice. Okay, you're welcome everyone.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
All right, we gotta go to break. We're gonna come back.
We're gonna get serious about some house stuff, right, and
then you're gonna talk about the Kellogg House. Yep, this
historic custom you see, I'm a custom home designer. This
is a custom Victorian mansion build one hundred and twenty
seven years ago, very very specifically orient round to oriented
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around his profession, hiring Kellogg's profession and his love of
sailing ships.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Mmm mmmmm.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And it finds its way into the house, Yes it does.
That is a custom build house. All right. More, when
we come back your Home with Dean Sharp.
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Speaker 1 (14:22):
Here to help you take your home to the next level.
Thanks for joining us on the program today. Also, by
the way, we may be taking some calls today. I
hope to take at least a couple of calls to
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while you're in the queue, but we'll be going to
the phone, you know, in a little bit. And so
there we go. All right, we're talking about how not
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to live in a haunted house. Why because you know,
Halloween's Friday. But what I'm really wanting to talk with
you about now are some tips and tricks of how
to quiet your house down these kinds of weird noises
that we don't necessarily like happening in our house. And
I'm not talking about moaning or somebody calling your name
from the attic. If that is the case, your attic
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is possessed, and you must call a paranormal expert like
my sister who's sitting across the table from me, Darcy
standing forth, or a priest, a shaman, someone.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Well, we can get the right people in there, like
you can get the right people for the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I'll get you the right people for that. So call Darcy,
she'll do a consult and then we'll figure out. That's
if there's actual Like if you waken up in the
middle of the night, you walk down the hallway and
there's a small doll that has animated itself I was
waving at you from the hallway. That does not fall
under the purview of DIY tips and tricks. Okay, that's
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a whole different thing.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
What if that haunted doll is really good at floors though.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well, that's the thing. I guess you could say, listen,
since you're here and up, yeah, would you mind refinishing
the polly on the entryway? And if the doll agrees, win, win.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Exactly because you know what, they're a good height.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
You're not gonna hurt her back good, your knees are
going to be in good shape. Get them to do
all the low work, all the lower.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yes, sut, what price will they extract from me? That's
the thing, my soul, It might be worth it anyway. Uh,
here's the thing. Let's talk about squeaky floors. Everybody hates
squeaky hardwood floors. So you've tried all of the like
a YouTube, you know, weird fixes, right, You've tried the
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baby powder, talcum powder, it's very popular. Spray that down,
you know, spread it around a little bit. Will that
actually make a squeaky hardwood floor stop squeaking? Sometimes? Sometimes
it does?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's basically acting like graphite, does you know, like graphite lubricant,
dry lubricant. Here's the thing about a hardwood floor that
you need to know. If you have glued your hardwood
floor down, if it's a newer like a you know,
a engineered hardwood floor, it's not gonna make a squeaking sound.
It's gonna make more of a crackling sound. And the
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way to address that is that there's an area there
where the glue maybe the slab has is dipped down
and the glue didn't actually grab on, and now it's
sitting there, you know, making intermittent contact with the slab.
A soft spot kind of that. Uh, that's a tricky
little procedure, but it can be dealt with. I usually
recommend that you get a hardwood flooring expert out there
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for that kind of thing, because, strangely enough, that is
not so much a DIY repair unless you are ready
to drill a precise hole in that floor at the
point of the softness and then inject through through that
hole into the void below more adhesive. And that's basically
how you resolve that, by injecting additional adhesive kind of subdermally,
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as it were, underneath the hardwood and to make up
that to differential. That's how you deal with a glue
down hardwood floor that's acting up on you in that way.
But most of the time we're talking about squeaky hardwood floors.
We're talking about older floors, maybe century homes or you know,
eighty year plus homes. You've got old traditional nailed down hardwood. Okay,
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nailed down hardwood. The squeak is not usually wood to wood.
Maybe once in my career have I found that the
wood was had swelled so tight that we were getting
a small like rubbing sort of almost a squeak out
of the wood wood to wood contact. It is not
wood to wood contact. Here's what has happened. A nailed
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down hardwood floor, old school, no glue, just nails, nails
at an angle. You don't see them because they are
nailed through the tongue of a tongue and grew floor. Okay,
tongue and grew floor. The nail goes through the tongue
at an angle down into the subfloor below, and then
the groove of the next piece covers the nail. Therefore,
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we see no top nails in a floor like that. Okay,
it is, by the way, a myth that those floors
are that tongue and groove floors do not require nails.
That's not true at all. They have nails, and what
happens is, after a lengthy period of time, some of
those nails, especially in high traffic areas and where the
subfloor below gives a lot of play as you walk
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along like it's a little softer, some of those nails
start to work their way ever so slightly loose, not
like loose, like coming out you're never going to see
the nail, but the nail has loosened up a little bit,
and now it's given a little bit of gap between
the floor, the hardwood floor and the floor below. And
as you walk on it, guess what you're hearing. You're
hearing the sound of the wood sliding along the shaft
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of the metal nail. It's wood to metal that you're hearing.
That's my hardwood floor squeak. Don't do a spit take
on me. Darcy is literally drinking something and she looked
like she was about to just spittake that across for
my poor wood squeak sound. So the point is this,
my friend, That's why sometimes if there's a gap there,
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people have, like you know, used baby powder in the area,
and temporarily, if some baby powder makes it into the
hole where the nail is, temporarily it goes away. But
it's it's not gonna last very long. And so why
do it. Don't mess with it because you're just wasting
time and you're wasting precious baby powder. And how much
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is that stuff? You just kind of wasting your time
with it because it's gonna come back. So here's the deal.
It's a screw down situation. They make repair kits for
exactly your problem. Okay, there are custom hardwood dec squeaking
screw kits, and these are screws that are designed to
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you you find out where the squeak is, you get
it all set up. It actually comes with its own
a jig. It's all ready and pre depth controlled. And
these screws are specialty screws. They are going to self
drill down through the hardest of hardwoods, and they're going
to grab the hardwood at the very end of the
screwing process, they are going to pull it down tight
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against the subfloor below. And then as soon as they
encounter a certain level of torque. I don't know exactly
what that is, but the poundage of torque, they will
sheer off slightly below the surface of the hardwood. And
so all you end up with is a tiny, little
pin sized hole. The hardwood has now been screwed down tight,
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the squeak gone, and if you want, you just to
put a little wood filler across that tiny hole and gone. Now,
just let you know, quite often when this starts to happen,
don't be discouraged. You will be chasing squeaks for a
while because the chances of that squeak only occurring in
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just that one little isolated location very very low. Okay,
probably an area maybe ten foot area has potentially kind
of gotten loose. So once you fix the one squeak,
then next week you're walking on the floor and now
it's over here, like two feet over. That's why these
kits come with like, you know, a dozen screws, because
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you just stay faithful to the process. So you fix
the one squeak, When the next squeak occurs, deal with
that one. You might be chasing squeaks for you know,
a couple of weeks until but I promise you eventually
you will have addressed the whole area and your squeak
free now. And that is how you deal with an
old traditional tongue and groove three quarter inch you know,
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hardwood oak floor that has been nailed down to the
sub floor below in its original application. Problem solved. No
more squeaky floors at night now. Also take into consideration
if you have teenagers that maybe you don't want to
fix the squeaks. Maybe you have grown accustom to having
that little alarm system that uh when two in the morning,
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oh uh, what are you doing? What are you doing?
Fix the squeak? Might have kids running a muck out
of control. In your life, just saying, just saying.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
So if your teenager suddenly takes a real interest in
home improvement.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yes exactly, You're like, why why do you want to
fix the squeaky floor?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Why?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Why? Jimmy? I don't think you're calling him Jimmy at
this point. Anyway, He's James, James James. You probably, if
you're mad enough, you're gonna use his middle little name.
Yeah exactly. I only hear my middle name when I'm
in trouble growing up. That's the only time it ever
gets pulled out. Dan Allen like, oh geez, what now?
What now? Well, all right, Joel, when we come back,
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we're gonna flip over and we're gonna talk to Darcy
about the Kellogg House and some interesting things that happened
when it was built as well. Okay, your Home with
Dean Sharp the House Whisper.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
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Speaker 1 (24:20):
Every home deserves great design, including your home, your home,
especially your home. Why especially your home, because that's where
you live, my friend, and so to live in a
beautifully designed home, that's what really, you know, transsitions a
house to a home when it is custom designed, when
it's custom fit for you. Isn't that going to cost
(24:41):
a lot of money? I don't. I can't afford to
live in. Everybody can afford to live in a custom home.
Custom and luxury. These are two completely separate categories. Don't
conflate them together. Okay, custom doesn't mean luxury, Luxury doesn't
mean custom. There are plenty of luxury homes out there
that are just cookie cutter luxury homes, and there are
a lot of custom homes out there that are humble, modest,
(25:04):
beautiful homes. I live in one. I live in a
little cottage. It's like a thirteen hundred square foot house.
Nobody's jaw drops when they walk into my house now, Like,
oh the ceiling heights, Oh yeah, the eight foot ceilings.
Is that what you're referring to. But it's a lovely home.
It's a custom home. Tina and I have custom fitted
to us, and your home can be the same. And
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that's what I'm here every weekend to help you with.
Right now, though we are having some fun for Halloween,
I'm talking about stuff that makes weird sounds in your
house and how you can deal with that. But I
also have my very special guest in studio with me
sitting across the table, her lovely face. My sister, my
kid's sister, Darcy Staniforth, who is a professor at cal
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State Fullerton, also involved with Haunted OC down in the
OC and also is going to be our docent for
our VIP tour, our tour guide of the Kellogg House
tomorrow night. Dars, tell us a little bit about the
Kellogg House.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Oh, it's hard to just tell you a little Yeah, exactly,
I'll try.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I'll try.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
The beautiful Kellogg House was built in eighteen ninety eight
by Hiram Clay Kellogg or not not.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
The cereal guy. No, different, different family.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Different Kellogg.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Okay, the cereal guy. He's got some stories. Those aren't
the stories I tell.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You, Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
No. If for my gardening folks out there, Kellogg of
gardening fame.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So if they know if yes, if you.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Know like Kellogg fertilizer and mulch. Yep, that's the Kellogg family.
We talk Hellogg family and they're still involved with the house.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yes, so they Hiram built the house for his wife Helen,
his second wife Helen. And we'll learn about the first
wife a little bit tomorrow night as well. And it
is a very custom home. It is a queen and
Victorian with neo classical elements.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yes, which I was happy to point out to the museum.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And I pointed out on every tour.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
It got that correct every tour.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I'm like, just so you know, my brother would like
you to know that this is a queen and Victorian
with neoclassical elements, not a neoclassical home.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Right, it's not even.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Don't even think that. Don't even think that. But I'm
a nerd.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, and I'm not a nerd about Yeah. Hello, Hi,
guess what everyone were related?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
So eighteen ninety eight eight, So it's one hundred and
twenty seven years old. This, Yes, that's an old home.
That's or the West Coast. That's ancient.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh my gosh. People can't even believe the history they're experiencing. Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
But the Kellogg House had a lot of modern amenities
for the time. It had two bathrooms, the first indoor
bathroom in all of Santa Anna, which is a big deal.
It had not a refrigerant based air conditioning system, but
a forced air system.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Oh by the way, okay, I'm just going to cut
you off here, just sing yeah, because I got to
throw in my trivia bits when when Darcy says that
it's ahead of its time because it had indoor plumbing,
indoor bathroom in eighteen ninety eight. Okay, I'm just going
to throw out this little trivia question for y'all. Think
about this. Tell me in the what percentage of homes
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in the in nineteen twenty Okay, in nineteen twenty, twenty
two years later in America? What percentage of homes had
indoor bathrooms? All right, you gotta figure in your head,
all right, are you ready? One percent? One percent of
American homes twenty years later, Yeah, had indoor bathrooms. This
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guy ahead of his time, all right. I just had
to throw that in there.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Now, ahead of his time. And here's the thing. I
talk about that on the tour a little bit. And
I had a guest recently tell me that their aunt
and uncle in rural Texas did not get indoor plumbing
until nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Two, last month.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Pretty close us comparatively, so yeah, so very ahead of
his time. Used adobe bricks as kind of a form
of insulation. Really made this home. I mean, it was
Helen's wedding gift. This is really Iron built this for Iram.
But he was the first civil engineer in all of
Santa Anna. And talk about someone who had an incredible
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design eye and thought very much like a ship captain,
as folks will see tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
He used space incredibly.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah. Now, so Hiram was a civil engineer, civil engineer.
And actually if you live in actually you live all
over the La Basin, you owe a lot of your
daily commute and daily life to Hiram's work because he
laid out like Carson, like most of the major streets
in Carson. Am I right about that.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
He designed the city of Corona, Corona design the city
of Elsinore. Don't get mad at him for the ninety
one freeway and it's modern configuration, but he designed the
ninety one freeway. He's the father of grand all these things.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
All right, they're playing us out. We got to go
to a break. When we come back, we will continue
to talk about hi Rum Kellogg the civil engineer, and
his custom home and his fixation with tall ships and
how that made it into the home he designed for
his family. Absolutely, you are home with Dean Sharp the
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your guide to better understanding that place where you live.
Every home, my friend, every home has a path forward.
Once you see it, that's when everything changes. And that's
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what I'm here to help you with today. On the show,
We're gonna have some Halloween fun today, it's going to
be useful, practical, interesting, fun, entertaining everything. It's an everything
show literally where usually it's only just one of those
maybe maybe just one if if any of them at all.
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Today on the show, here's what I've titled the show.
I'll just tell you it's how not to live in
a haunted house. That's what we're talking about today. So
I'm gonna split our time today on the program between
using that little nuance to talk to you about stuff
that makes weird noises and disturbing behaviors in your home.
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You know, the toilet that sounds like somebody's using it,
it's hissing it three in the morning, the floors that squeak,
the weird sounds, the popping, grunting, groaning sounds coming from
the attic, the scurrying that you hear overhead in the
attic like something's alive up there it is, and all
of that. So we're gonna just take all of that
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goofiness and turn it into a program where I get
to tell you some tips and some tricks about getting
rid of those noises. But but we're gonna share that
time with my very special in studio guest. I mean
very special. My kid's sister is here, a kid. I'm
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just you know, we're just embracing We're embracing our youngness.
Darcy Staniforth, my kid's sister. She is a professor at
cal State Fullerton, and she also is on the side
a lover of all things paranormal. I'm gonna let her
introduce her full bio to you so you all know.
But Darcy sitting across the table from me this morning,
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Darcy is the one who is actually going to be
hosting our VIP House Whisper Ghost Tour tomorrow night at
the Kellogg House at the Heritage Museum of Orange County.
And she is an expert on all things Kellogg House
and everything that's going on there, including the alleged paranormal activity.
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I just say alleged because I just want everybody to
keep an open mind. And so hey, babe, and by
the way, yes, I will be referring to through the
show as babe because she is my sister. So please
no calls to hr dars. Love you. I'm so glad
that you're here.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
I'm so glad that i'm here.
Speaker 3 (02:47):
This is always fun to do because you're not gonna
have me on for really any other.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Nope, nothing else, nothing else. You will be here for
exactly zero Home improvemn advice.
Speaker 3 (02:59):
Yep.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Now I'll just be like, don't do that. Don't you.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Brother, call my brother. That's it. That's the end.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
My brother is either the guy or he's got a guy.
That's what it's gonna be, exactly. But yeah, I'm really excited.
I'm really excited for our tour tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
It's gonna be fun. I mean, your tours are awesome.
You get all dressed up in period Victorian war. We
love a car that's still happening. You're still doing that.
And I can show up like in just sweats. It's
just like Laker sweats.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
I'm just the most apathetic ghost somebody.
Speaker 1 (03:31):
You're like, hey, what's it?
Speaker 2 (03:32):
You know, what's going on? Everyone? This is fine. Let
me tell you about some ghosts.
Speaker 1 (03:36):
Now, we know I've seen some ghost hunter shows that
they're never concerned about fashion. I'll tell you that.
Speaker 3 (03:41):
No, but they're also not concerned with yelling at the beyond.
Speaker 2 (03:45):
We're not gonna yell at the beyond. We're not gonna
yell come at me.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Ghost if maybe if people wore better clothes, they'd get
more responsive, you know what, especially older ghosts, you think
if you're talking to like Victorian age ghosts, dress up right.
Speaker 3 (03:59):
Give your of a haircut, put on a tie. Absolutely,
And I'm also going to tell you that, uh, it's
what I call brost hunting, like a bunch of bros.
Speaker 1 (04:11):
Just that's true. That is so true, bro hunting.
Speaker 2 (04:15):
What's up? Settle down?
Speaker 3 (04:17):
Like you, You would not have a good reaction if
a bunch of people came in your house and were
like what are you doing?
Speaker 2 (04:22):
Oh? Why are you here? Like, please stop yelling at me.
Speaker 1 (04:26):
I see the ghosts in the back room. They're like, Selven,
someone's in the house again. They're like, oh, those barbarians.
I'm not talking to them. I have no interest in
talking to them. You think someone could wear a cravat.
That's all I'm saying, especially a cravat.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
So for those of you who have one ticket so far,
make sure to bring your cravat tomorrow night.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
If you want to get you want to get some
ghost action.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
If you want some ghost action, a cravat, perhaps a petticoat,
a bustle.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
A waistcoat for the gentleman, Yes, a good waist that's
a vest. By the way, a waistcoat is a vest.
It's not a coat that you tie around your waist.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
No, that's called your sweatshirt.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
Yeah. So no, no, please, you don't. You do not
have to dress up.
Speaker 3 (05:10):
Do not dress I will be costuming. I will be
in full Victorian morning tomorrow night. The rest of you
don't have to be so.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
On that note, yes you, this goes beyond just a
subtle interest in the paranormal. You in your studies, in
your research, in your degree program. It's been studies on death,
about death, denial about you know, it's an American studies thing.
Just give everybody your bio.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Sure, So, my academic field is American studies, which is
the how and why of American history and culture, and
my deep dive I do work on race and ethnicity,
gender and sexuality, ideals and institutions. But my deep dive
is death dying in Greek in American culture. So I
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do a lot of work around not just death nile
and grief avoidance, because we are death avoidant and grief
avoidant culture for sure. I've done a TED talk on death,
grief and the college student and how we can better
serve our college students in their times of loss, And
right now I'm working on a proposal for a project
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around how we can use haunted tourism to engage death
education because in a really simple way, and I know
my art Bell listeners might be I guess my George
Norri listeners would be. If you're listening to art Bell,
please call us because I want to know how you're
contacting them. But our coast to coast listeners, I'm not
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trying to get into a battle with you all about
what a ghost is. But on the simplest terms, if
we're talking about ghosts, we're talking about death, because how else, Yeah,
do you get a ghost?
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Right, George, everybody who listens to George nor is asleep
right now.
Speaker 3 (06:52):
Yeah, that's because they stayed up all night that's really fair.
That's really fair. They stayed up all night, so your
board operator.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
Doesn't have to be like, what did you do?
Speaker 1 (07:00):
What did you do exactly? Please know coast to coast
calls at this time. But so and that's what I
love about that's what our VIP guests. And by the way,
we're going to be giving away tickets every hour during
the show today. Those will be the last of our tickets.
It's a limited group because there's only so many people
who can go through the Kellogg House at one time.
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But we'll be talking about its architecture today. But it's history.
And that's what I love about you, the way you
do this tour, because so much of it is about
the way that Victorians Americans just one hundred and twenty
years ago, the way they faced and dealt with death
and dying, versus the way we face. And sometimes we
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look back from our vantage point here and we think, oh,
that's weird, that's morbid, that's but when you really understand it,
you know it's a culture that actually had to deal
with death a lot more face to face than we
do and had ways of processing it.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Absolutely, and you know, Victorian death culture is something that
I talk a lot about, not just on the tour,
but I've given a couple talks just this season on
post warning photography and the historical context around that, because
we have to think about the fact that in.
Speaker 2 (08:14):
The eighteen hundreds, photography is this brand new medium.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Yes, and you know, you might pick up your phone
and have a million photos of your loved ones, but
that might have been.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
The photo the only one. Yeah, and the deceased person
is the one who is in clearest. We'll talk about
that on the other side. Which one is dead, the
one that's completely sharp in the image?
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Completely sure?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
All right, we'll talk about that on the other side.
We got to go to break and when we come
back we will continue more great stuff on the way
your Home with Dean Sharp the House Whisper.
Speaker 4 (08:44):
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Speaker 1 (08:49):
Good morning, my friend, and welcome to the program. It
is always a privilege and a pleasure to be with
you on a Sunday morning, especially a beautiful Sunday morning
here in southern California. I don't know where it is,
what the weather looks like exactly where you are, but
out where we are. It is still misty and overcast
and just feeling very autumn like. And that's what I like,
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especially since this time of year. You know, famously we
could be having one hundred degree temperatures and Santa Ana wins.
And now that I said that, I'm sure they're on
their way. But today, today, yeah, I know, Thanks Dean,
Thanks today things are looking good. I hope wherever you
are across this country that the weather is treating you
well and that you are in the autumn spirit. This
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Friday is Halloween is the part. This is actually the last.
I cannot believe this is our last show in October.
Where did October go? I have no idea, but this
is our last show for October, and then when we
come back Saturday of this coming week, it will be
November first, which is freaky weird to me, but it
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is Halloween time and I always try and take the
show right before Halloween and have a little fun with it.
So we're talking about how not to live in a
haunted house today by way of like, you know, the
stuff in your home that makes weird noises and how
to deal with that. But also my very special in
studio guest somebody who I have loved for a long
long time, literally deeply loved. My kid's sister, Darcy Standforth,
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is sitting across the table from me. She is an
American study scholar at cal State Fullerton, but she also
is involved with Haunted OC. And I know you gave
you the rest of your bio before, but tell us
about Haunted OC. Who are, by the way, who are
sponsoring the VIP House Whisper ghost tour of the Kellogg
House tomorrow night. It's tomorrow night, and we're giving tickets
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away during the show today as well, But dars So,
tell us about hanted OC.
Speaker 3 (10:48):
So. Hanted o C is Orange County's longest running ghost tours,
locally owned, locally run, and our focus is haunted historical
ghost tours. So you're going to get good history, and
I don't just mean like interesting history, but accurate history
that's important as well as some really great ghost stories.
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And so we have tours. I do the Santa Anatore
as well as the Kellogg House tour that we're doing
with your VIPs tomorrow night. But we have got San
Juan Capistrano, we have downtown Fullerton, we have old Town
Orange Black Star Canyon. And actually right now as we're
wrapping up the Halloween season, we have got the Disney
Mansion in Los Feliz, which is a private right Walt
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Walts House, Yeah, the house he built during Snow White
and it's incredible. And then we're also doing what I
call after hours at Bowers Ghosts and Legends of the
Bowers Museums.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
So but we every.
Speaker 3 (11:44):
Season is spooky season at Hanad, Orange County because we
run these tours all year long. So when people are
like I missed June October, I'm like, great, come see
me in March, January. You want a little spookiness at Christmas,
I'll see you in December.
Speaker 1 (11:58):
But it's great history though, I mean, and it's great.
It's great history. It's great. And as a lover of
history and all things just you know, weird and wild,
it's just great.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
It's such.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It's it's a great bridge to build with people, right
because a lot of folks don't they'll say I'm not
really into history because they can't see themselves in it.
They don't know how to make that connection. And so
I'm always trying to build bridges for people to cross over,
to connect with that history, and I say like, if
you're not here for the ghosts, I'll get you with
the architecture. If I don't get you the architecture, I'll
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get you with the history. And my hope is that
people come away learning some good local history and having
a great time.
Speaker 1 (12:33):
Right. We took a ghost tour when we were in Montreal.
Was it last year of the year before I've lost
all track of time, but uh, and it was old
town Montreal. It was fun, it was and you could
see that they were there were another I'm the nerd
who will sign up for the history tour just period,
flat out right. But you could see there were folks
on the tour who were like, you know, okay, this
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is interesting stuff. And then all of a sudden, the
tour guide, you know, she put on like her pirate voice,
and she said and it was here that she threw
herself down from the third story window.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
And then suddenly they were like, oh cool, cool, So
what you're saying and I need to do all tomorrow
night in a pirate way.
Speaker 1 (13:13):
Well, you know what, I'm trying to think of the
incentive to give you for doing that, if you would
actually do that.
Speaker 3 (13:19):
I mean Hiram loved salient ships. There you go know
that there were pirate ships. But we can throw a
pirate voice in there. That's fine, all right.
Speaker 1 (13:27):
So just so you know, if you're vuying for a
ticket for tomorrow night, at some point, at some point,
I'm not going to commit you to the whole thing.
At some point Darcy will do at least a portion
of the tour in a pirate voice.
Speaker 3 (13:38):
And a pirate voice. Okay, you're welcome everyone.
Speaker 1 (13:42):
All right, we gotta go to break. We're gonna come back.
We're gonna get serious about some house stuff, right, and
then you're gonna talk about the Kellogg House. Yep, this
historic custom you see, I'm a custom home designer. This
is a custom Victorian mansion build one hundred and twenty
seven years ago, very very specifically orient round to oriented
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around his profession, hiring Kellogg's profession and his love of
sailing ships.
Speaker 2 (14:08):
Mmm mmmmm.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
And it finds its way into the house, Yes it does.
That is a custom build house. All right. More, when
we come back your Home with Dean Sharp.
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Here to help you take your home to the next level.
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the phone, you know, in a little bit. And so
there we go. All right, we're talking about how not
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to live in a haunted house. Why because you know,
Halloween's Friday. But what I'm really wanting to talk with
you about now are some tips and tricks of how
to quiet your house down these kinds of weird noises
that we don't necessarily like happening in our house. And
I'm not talking about moaning or somebody calling your name
from the attic. If that is the case, your attic
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is possessed, and you must call a paranormal expert like
my sister who's sitting across the table from me, Darcy
standing forth, or a priest, a shaman, someone.
Speaker 3 (15:38):
Well, we can get the right people in there, like
you can get the right people for the other stuff.
Speaker 1 (15:43):
I'll get you the right people for that. So call Darcy,
she'll do a consult and then we'll figure out. That's
if there's actual Like if you waken up in the
middle of the night, you walk down the hallway and
there's a small doll that has animated itself I was
waving at you from the hallway. That does not fall
under the purview of DIY tips and tricks. Okay, that's
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a whole different thing.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
What if that haunted doll is really good at floors though.
Speaker 1 (16:08):
Well, that's the thing. I guess you could say, listen,
since you're here and up, yeah, would you mind refinishing
the polly on the entryway? And if the doll agrees, win, win.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
Exactly because you know what, they're a good height.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
You're not gonna hurt her back good, your knees are
going to be in good shape. Get them to do
all the low work, all the lower.
Speaker 1 (16:27):
Yes, sut, what price will they extract from me? That's
the thing, my soul, It might be worth it anyway. Uh,
here's the thing. Let's talk about squeaky floors. Everybody hates
squeaky hardwood floors. So you've tried all of the like
a YouTube, you know, weird fixes, right, You've tried the
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baby powder, talcum powder, it's very popular. Spray that down,
you know, spread it around a little bit. Will that
actually make a squeaky hardwood floor stop squeaking? Sometimes? Sometimes
it does?
Speaker 2 (17:01):
You know what?
Speaker 1 (17:01):
It's basically acting like graphite, does you know, like graphite lubricant,
dry lubricant. Here's the thing about a hardwood floor that
you need to know. If you have glued your hardwood
floor down, if it's a newer like a you know,
a engineered hardwood floor, it's not gonna make a squeaking sound.
It's gonna make more of a crackling sound. And the
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way to address that is that there's an area there
where the glue maybe the slab has is dipped down
and the glue didn't actually grab on, and now it's
sitting there, you know, making intermittent contact with the slab.
A soft spot kind of that. Uh, that's a tricky
little procedure, but it can be dealt with. I usually
recommend that you get a hardwood flooring expert out there
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for that kind of thing, because, strangely enough, that is
not so much a DIY repair unless you are ready
to drill a precise hole in that floor at the
point of the softness and then inject through through that
hole into the void below more adhesive. And that's basically
how you resolve that, by injecting additional adhesive kind of subdermally,
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as it were, underneath the hardwood and to make up
that to differential. That's how you deal with a glue
down hardwood floor that's acting up on you in that way.
But most of the time we're talking about squeaky hardwood floors.
We're talking about older floors, maybe century homes or you know,
eighty year plus homes. You've got old traditional nailed down hardwood. Okay,
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nailed down hardwood. The squeak is not usually wood to wood.
Maybe once in my career have I found that the
wood was had swelled so tight that we were getting
a small like rubbing sort of almost a squeak out
of the wood wood to wood contact. It is not
wood to wood contact. Here's what has happened. A nailed
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down hardwood floor, old school, no glue, just nails, nails
at an angle. You don't see them because they are
nailed through the tongue of a tongue and grew floor. Okay,
tongue and grew floor. The nail goes through the tongue
at an angle down into the subfloor below, and then
the groove of the next piece covers the nail. Therefore,
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we see no top nails in a floor like that. Okay,
it is, by the way, a myth that those floors
are that tongue and groove floors do not require nails.
That's not true at all. They have nails, and what
happens is, after a lengthy period of time, some of
those nails, especially in high traffic areas and where the
subfloor below gives a lot of play as you walk
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along like it's a little softer, some of those nails
start to work their way ever so slightly loose, not
like loose, like coming out you're never going to see
the nail, but the nail has loosened up a little bit,
and now it's given a little bit of gap between
the floor, the hardwood floor and the floor below. And
as you walk on it, guess what you're hearing. You're
hearing the sound of the wood sliding along the shaft
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of the metal nail. It's wood to metal that you're hearing.
That's my hardwood floor squeak. Don't do a spit take
on me. Darcy is literally drinking something and she looked
like she was about to just spittake that across for
my poor wood squeak sound. So the point is this,
my friend, That's why sometimes if there's a gap there,
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people have, like you know, used baby powder in the area,
and temporarily, if some baby powder makes it into the
hole where the nail is, temporarily it goes away. But
it's it's not gonna last very long. And so why
do it. Don't mess with it because you're just wasting
time and you're wasting precious baby powder. And how much
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is that stuff? You just kind of wasting your time
with it because it's gonna come back. So here's the deal.
It's a screw down situation. They make repair kits for
exactly your problem. Okay, there are custom hardwood dec squeaking
screw kits, and these are screws that are designed to
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you you find out where the squeak is, you get
it all set up. It actually comes with its own
a jig. It's all ready and pre depth controlled. And
these screws are specialty screws. They are going to self
drill down through the hardest of hardwoods, and they're going
to grab the hardwood at the very end of the
screwing process, they are going to pull it down tight
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against the subfloor below. And then as soon as they
encounter a certain level of torque. I don't know exactly
what that is, but the poundage of torque, they will
sheer off slightly below the surface of the hardwood. And
so all you end up with is a tiny, little
pin sized hole. The hardwood has now been screwed down tight,
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the squeak gone, and if you want, you just to
put a little wood filler across that tiny hole and gone. Now,
just let you know, quite often when this starts to happen,
don't be discouraged. You will be chasing squeaks for a
while because the chances of that squeak only occurring in
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just that one little isolated location very very low. Okay,
probably an area maybe ten foot area has potentially kind
of gotten loose. So once you fix the one squeak,
then next week you're walking on the floor and now
it's over here, like two feet over. That's why these
kits come with like, you know, a dozen screws, because
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you just stay faithful to the process. So you fix
the one squeak, When the next squeak occurs, deal with
that one. You might be chasing squeaks for you know,
a couple of weeks until but I promise you eventually
you will have addressed the whole area and your squeak
free now. And that is how you deal with an
old traditional tongue and groove three quarter inch you know,
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hardwood oak floor that has been nailed down to the
sub floor below in its original application. Problem solved. No
more squeaky floors at night now. Also take into consideration
if you have teenagers that maybe you don't want to
fix the squeaks. Maybe you have grown accustom to having
that little alarm system that uh when two in the morning,
(23:19):
oh uh, what are you doing? What are you doing?
Fix the squeak? Might have kids running a muck out
of control. In your life, just saying, just saying.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
So if your teenager suddenly takes a real interest in
home improvement.
Speaker 1 (23:34):
Yes exactly, You're like, why why do you want to
fix the squeaky floor?
Speaker 2 (23:39):
Why?
Speaker 1 (23:40):
Why? Jimmy? I don't think you're calling him Jimmy at
this point. Anyway, He's James, James James. You probably, if
you're mad enough, you're gonna use his middle little name.
Yeah exactly. I only hear my middle name when I'm
in trouble growing up. That's the only time it ever
gets pulled out. Dan Allen like, oh geez, what now?
What now? Well, all right, Joel, when we come back,
(24:02):
we're gonna flip over and we're gonna talk to Darcy
about the Kellogg House and some interesting things that happened
when it was built as well. Okay, your Home with
Dean Sharp the House Whisper.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (24:20):
Every home deserves great design, including your home, your home,
especially your home. Why especially your home, because that's where
you live, my friend, and so to live in a
beautifully designed home, that's what really, you know, transsitions a
house to a home when it is custom designed, when
it's custom fit for you. Isn't that going to cost
(24:41):
a lot of money? I don't. I can't afford to
live in. Everybody can afford to live in a custom home.
Custom and luxury. These are two completely separate categories. Don't
conflate them together. Okay, custom doesn't mean luxury, Luxury doesn't
mean custom. There are plenty of luxury homes out there
that are just cookie cutter luxury homes, and there are
a lot of custom homes out there that are humble, modest,
(25:04):
beautiful homes. I live in one. I live in a
little cottage. It's like a thirteen hundred square foot house.
Nobody's jaw drops when they walk into my house now, Like,
oh the ceiling heights, Oh yeah, the eight foot ceilings.
Is that what you're referring to. But it's a lovely home.
It's a custom home. Tina and I have custom fitted
to us, and your home can be the same. And
(25:27):
that's what I'm here every weekend to help you with.
Right now, though we are having some fun for Halloween,
I'm talking about stuff that makes weird sounds in your
house and how you can deal with that. But I
also have my very special guest in studio with me
sitting across the table, her lovely face. My sister, my
kid's sister, Darcy Staniforth, who is a professor at cal
(25:50):
State Fullerton, also involved with Haunted OC down in the
OC and also is going to be our docent for
our VIP tour, our tour guide of the Kellogg House
tomorrow night. Dars, tell us a little bit about the
Kellogg House.
Speaker 3 (26:09):
Oh, it's hard to just tell you a little Yeah, exactly,
I'll try.
Speaker 2 (26:12):
I'll try.
Speaker 3 (26:13):
The beautiful Kellogg House was built in eighteen ninety eight
by Hiram Clay Kellogg or not not.
Speaker 1 (26:20):
The cereal guy. No, different, different family.
Speaker 2 (26:23):
Different Kellogg.
Speaker 3 (26:24):
Okay, the cereal guy. He's got some stories. Those aren't
the stories I tell.
Speaker 1 (26:28):
You, Okay.
Speaker 3 (26:29):
No. If for my gardening folks out there, Kellogg of
gardening fame.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
So if they know if yes, if you.
Speaker 1 (26:36):
Know like Kellogg fertilizer and mulch. Yep, that's the Kellogg family.
We talk Hellogg family and they're still involved with the house.
Speaker 3 (26:42):
Yes, so they Hiram built the house for his wife Helen,
his second wife Helen. And we'll learn about the first
wife a little bit tomorrow night as well. And it
is a very custom home. It is a queen and
Victorian with neo classical elements.
Speaker 1 (27:01):
Yes, which I was happy to point out to the museum.
Speaker 2 (27:04):
And I pointed out on every tour.
Speaker 1 (27:05):
It got that correct every tour.
Speaker 3 (27:07):
I'm like, just so you know, my brother would like
you to know that this is a queen and Victorian
with neoclassical elements, not a neoclassical home.
Speaker 2 (27:14):
Right, it's not even.
Speaker 1 (27:16):
Don't even think that. Don't even think that. But I'm
a nerd.
Speaker 2 (27:22):
Yeah, and I'm not a nerd about Yeah. Hello, Hi,
guess what everyone were related?
Speaker 1 (27:29):
So eighteen ninety eight eight, So it's one hundred and
twenty seven years old. This, Yes, that's an old home.
That's or the West Coast. That's ancient.
Speaker 2 (27:37):
Oh my gosh. People can't even believe the history they're experiencing. Uh.
Speaker 3 (27:41):
But the Kellogg House had a lot of modern amenities
for the time. It had two bathrooms, the first indoor
bathroom in all of Santa Anna, which is a big deal.
It had not a refrigerant based air conditioning system, but
a forced air system.
Speaker 1 (27:57):
Oh by the way, okay, I'm just going to cut
you off here, just sing yeah, because I got to
throw in my trivia bits when when Darcy says that
it's ahead of its time because it had indoor plumbing,
indoor bathroom in eighteen ninety eight. Okay, I'm just going
to throw out this little trivia question for y'all. Think
about this. Tell me in the what percentage of homes
(28:19):
in the in nineteen twenty Okay, in nineteen twenty, twenty
two years later in America? What percentage of homes had
indoor bathrooms? All right, you gotta figure in your head,
all right, are you ready? One percent? One percent of
American homes twenty years later, Yeah, had indoor bathrooms. This
(28:41):
guy ahead of his time, all right. I just had
to throw that in there.
Speaker 3 (28:45):
Now, ahead of his time. And here's the thing. I
talk about that on the tour a little bit. And
I had a guest recently tell me that their aunt
and uncle in rural Texas did not get indoor plumbing
until nineteen seventy.
Speaker 1 (28:58):
Two, last month.
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Pretty close us comparatively, so yeah, so very ahead of
his time. Used adobe bricks as kind of a form
of insulation. Really made this home. I mean, it was
Helen's wedding gift. This is really Iron built this for Iram.
But he was the first civil engineer in all of
Santa Anna. And talk about someone who had an incredible
(29:22):
design eye and thought very much like a ship captain,
as folks will see tomorrow night.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
He used space incredibly.
Speaker 1 (29:30):
Yeah. Now, so Hiram was a civil engineer, civil engineer.
And actually if you live in actually you live all
over the La Basin, you owe a lot of your
daily commute and daily life to Hiram's work because he
laid out like Carson, like most of the major streets
in Carson. Am I right about that.
Speaker 3 (29:46):
He designed the city of Corona, Corona design the city
of Elsinore. Don't get mad at him for the ninety
one freeway and it's modern configuration, but he designed the
ninety one freeway. He's the father of grand all these things.
Speaker 1 (30:01):
All right, they're playing us out. We got to go
to a break. When we come back, we will continue
to talk about hi Rum Kellogg the civil engineer, and
his custom home and his fixation with tall ships and
how that made it into the home he designed for
his family. Absolutely, you are home with Dean Sharp the
house whisper, Don't Go Away. This has been Home with
(30:22):
Dean Sharp the House Whisper. Tune into the live broadcast
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