June 15, 2025 • 35 mins
Dean continued his discussion on organizing your home and how to sort, inventory and store the things you really need.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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is where you find that. All right, let's dive back
into the subject of organization and my own little system,
which I've very adorably called SIPs SIPs which stands for Sort, Inventory,
Purge and Store. This is not the end all of
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organizational systems. No, I'm not going to write a book
about it. It is just something that actually came to
me as I was processing through how I help our
own clients with their organizational issues. I realized that these
are the four steps that I go through and it
happens to spell the word SIPs. And what I thought
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was cute about it is that or interesting or both.
Is the fact that organization it's all ahead game. It's
all about our head and our heart fighting with each
other over things that are meaningful and things that we
don't want to let go of and things that we
don't want to edit harshly out of our lives or
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out of our homes. And that's why we all end
up holding onto more stuff than we should. Let's face it,
it's all in our head. It truly is our head
in our heart. And so this process of sorting and inventory,
purging and storing, it's SIPs. It's a way to kind
of help get around your heart issues on a thing.
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So you're taking a little sip of a thing, and
you don't have to be intimidated by, you know, guzzling
it all down at once like a fire hose. So
I got to I got through sorting, which is the
most critical step. It's also the easiest. We're not deciding
to keep anything or get rid of anything, or how
to store a thing. We're just making piles. I use
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the example of socks. There's really no way of really
getting an emotional sense of how many socks you have
until they're all in a pile together and then you
inventory them. Step two, you sort and then you inventory
how many socks do we have? We have forty seven
pairs of socks and about nineteen unmatched singles. Well, those
are gone, right, and then the forty seven pairs that
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are left. It allow you, once you've sorted something into
that small of a category, it allows you to be
more rational about this and say, I only have two feet.
There are only seven days in a week. If I
wore three pairs of socks every day all week long
for an entire week, okay, that's only twenty one pairs
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of socks. And that's if I don't do laundry during
the course of the week. So twenty one is not
forty seven. And that allows us some real emotional impetus
to make some cuts, right, to make some cuts, to
reduce down to what's really really necessary. And by the way,
I'm not talking about you having some spartan life in
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which you know, there's just there's your home, and there's
a stool in the corner and a you know, in
a hair shirt over there that you put on to
punish yourself, an itchy shirt, one piece of clothing. That's
not at all what we're talking about. What we're talking
about is max the storytelling capacity of your home by
editing things down and just dealing with a problem that
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we all deal with, which is too much stuff. Even
those who are economically challenged among us the most still
probably have too much stuff. Just something that happens to us.
So we have sorted, we have inventoried. Now comes the
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time to purge, right, And that is what I'm talking about.
When I say do I need forty seven pairs of
stock socks, It's time to toss those out.
Speaker 2 (05:39):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (05:46):
Thanks for joining us on the program today. We're talking
about all things organization, and we've got to the place
in my little system of sorting, inventory, purging and storage
to give a little bit more intention to the purge.
We all know that's the hardest part of this whole process,
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the purge getting rid of some stuff. And there's not
a whole lot I can tell you other than to
approach this as rationally as possible. From the other two
steps they're sorting in the inventory, so you can actually
get some emotional and mental perspective around just how much
stuff you've got versus how much you need, and then
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we want to let it go. And we don't mean
throwing it away. Most of the things that you've got
that you're tempted to hang on to are going to
be things that other people could use as well, and
so pass it on, share the love. As our earlier
caller suggested as well, there's the Salvation Army, there's Goodwill,
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there's the Rescue Mission. There are places that will come
and pick up your stuff. There are places you can
take it too. They take everything from clothing to furniture
to everything, everything, everything, everything. The fact of the matter
is there are others who could use it, and if
that becomes an emotional point of leverage for you, allow
that to be the fact that this thing's life doesn't
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end with you, but it moves on and it can
find a new life and new memories with new people.
The point is this, there are things you want to
hold on to, things that aren't going to necessarily be
sitting in your house on display. Memorabilia nostalgia keepsakes. Nothing
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wrong with that. The only thing about keepsakes that become
problematic is when an entire garage and a rented storage
area and five other rooms in your house are all
full of them, because at this point they aren't serving you.
Keepsakes should be sorted in such a way that you
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can go and sit down for a little bit of
time you want to and revisit them. Not everything in
your life, not every moment in your life, not every
greeting card you ever received, not everything anybody has ever
given you. No life, no human life, can afford to
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hang on to its memorabilia and become the Smithsonian Institute
for your life. It's just not feasible, And believe me,
it is a far greater burden. Allow memory to serve
its function. And ideally, memorabilia are things that set off memories,
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not having to relive every single moment, every single detail,
but things that set off the best memories for you
along the way. Those are the things that are worthy
of keepsakes. And then we purge the rest, We purge,
we let it go. Now we finally come to the
question of storage, because when we've done our of sorting
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and inventory and purging, we've got stuff left and the
question is what do we do. How do we handle
the stuff that's left well, that finally comes to storage,
storage now me be really clear. Storage comes in two forms.
In fact, I'm so hesitant to even say this in
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the same sentence, but I'm gonna say it anyway. When
it comes to closets inside your house, that's not storage,
not storage at all, but I'm gonna just put it
in this term, right. Storage comes in two forms, staging
and long term storage. Now what's the difference. Okay, Well, technically,
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I guess everything that's in your home, inside a cupboard,
inside a cabinet, inside a chest of drawers, or furniture
or whatever, is storage. But I would rather you think
of it in terms of staging. What's in your house
is ideally best described as staging. What is staging. Staging
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is what furniture and closets are for. It is a
resting place, a short term storage place for frequently used
items to be able to access them. Okay, like your
sock drawer. Okay, not with forty seven pairs of socks
in it, but a few pair of socks, and it's
there for you to get to and get at because
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you go to it every single day. It's that kind
of thing. Staging. Staging is different than long term storage.
Long term storage are simply the things that have to
be stored away somewhere that are important but aren't going
to get used every week or every month or looked
at every other day. You know what I'm talking about.
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So I'm very serious about this, and I really push
my clients to the point of them usually being very
annoyed with me. But I'm very serious about it. Closets
in your home if you are using them as they
should be used in a home. And I'm a home designer,
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so I know all about what closets are for. They
are places where we stage things. Stage the clothing that
you actually wear, Stage the shoes and the socks, and
the hanging items that you actually realistically go to, stage
the stuff, the sports gear or the whatever that you
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actually use on a regular basis. Closets are short term
staging areas staging long term storage. That's for the garage
or for the storage shed, or for wherever else you've
got a room to do that kind of stuff. Long
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term storage, it's about crates, it's about shelving, it's about
organization and so on. In the garage. By the way,
the workbench staging the area above the workbench staging. Okay,
peg board or slat boards up there so that we
can put in little hooks and fixtures to hold tools,
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to organize the screwdriver set, to keep things organized and
clean and clear so you can get to it when
you need it and hang it up out of the
way when you don't need it. That is staging. Long
term storage is stuff that you know you still own,
but you don't have to see it or you're not
going to deal with it. And that's the kind of
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stuff that we want to get as clean and clear
as possible and up and out of the way. Long
term storage the one area that is just kind of
the hybrid between long term and store storage and staging
would be like holiday decorations, the stuff that comes out
seasonally because you know it's going to sit there for
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six plus months at a time, let's just call it seasonal.
If it's seasonal, it's gonna sit there in long term
storage for about nine months and then you need to
access it and then you use it and then it
goes away again. But other things are on long term
storage that aren't seasonal, they're just long term storage. Okay,
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So here are the clues about that. We want to
keep things off the floor as much as possible so
they're not in the way. But there are so many
options when it comes to long term storage these days.
I just walked through the aisles of my local home depot.
It's a couple three days ago, and I thought, you know,
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I'm going over and see what's going on with the
crates and everything. Man, every time I look there, there
are more and more storage ideas. Heavy duty storage racks
that hold crates in a way that they slide out
and are easily accessible. Crates are being built better and
better with stronger lids and longer sidewalls so that crates
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can be stacked and nested on one on another and
stand five six seven crates tall, only taking up a
relatively small area labeling the front of them so you
know what's in each one. There are so many ideas.
I'm going to share a few more with you, But first.
Speaker 2 (14:19):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (14:25):
Happy Father's Day, Glad that you are here. It's a beautiful,
warm day here in sunny southern California. I hope wherever
you are today, wherever you're listening from, that the weather
is treating you well, and I hope that your family
is treating you well. And if you're a dad, happy
Father's Day. And I hope that your family is celebrating you. Today,
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we are finishing up our conversation about organization and storage
and all of it. And we've come to this place
now where we've gone through the sorting and the inventory
and the purging. I hope, I hope we've got enough
purged that we're in the storage mode. And I shared
with you before the break that storage in a home
comes in two forms, long term and staging. Closets in
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your home, furniture in your home, staging, staging. I guarantee you,
as hard as that may be to embrace, if you
set that as an inviolable rule for yourself that inside
your home furniture and closets are for staging items that
are frequently used, you will never live to regret it.
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Never live to regret it. Okay, you don't need more
closet space most of you. You just need less stuff
and to get a little bit more organized along the way.
It doesn't apply to everybody. I get it, I get it.
Don't write me emails about you don't know how small
my closet. I get it, especially if you live in
an older home, like a pre World War Two era home.
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I know, hardly any storage whatsoever. But what's interesting. You
know what's interesting about pre World War two homes. They
reflect a very very different lifestyle, a very very different
economic strata. Homes built before World War Two, built in
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the twenties and the thirties, which there are a lot
of them in every town, including here in southern California,
people just did not have as much stuff, and yet
they seem to be living perfectly, healthy and happy lives.
It's a different way of looking at the world. Material
possessions were on a different scale back then. That's why
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there aren't that big of a closet in the primary bedroom.
That's why there isn't as much storage. There just wasn't
as much stuff. Some to think about, That's all I'm saying.
It's something to think about when it comes to storage
for the garage. There are so many innovations these days
that are available heavy duty overhead racks. If you have
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a dry walled garage, or even if you don't, if
you've got a well supported garage ceiling above you, you could
take advantage of these overhead racks. They're built to work
around the garage door opener. Both sides of the garage
door opener take advantage of that area up there. They're
relatively easily accessible. Some of them are incredibly accessible. Some
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of them. If you've got the budget for this, you
can get a garage hoist, a motorized hoist that literally
will lower that stuff down to the floor of the garage.
You pull the car out, lower that down, get whatever
you need out of there. It's a good place to
store seasonal things, and then right up it goes back
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up to the ceiling again out of your way. It's
a tricky thing garage ceilings, because most garage ceilings still
have a traditional garage door opener that kind of cuts
off the whole midpoint of the garage. For some of you,
getting rid of that garage door opener is actually the
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first step in getting better organized in your garage. And
you're like, Dan, it's a garage door opener. I said,
I know. Here's the thing. The traditional garage door opener
that sits up on the ceiling and breaks up the
whole ceiling access up there can be replaced with a
modern garage door opener that is direct drive and actually
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mounts on the wall next to the garage door. Nothing
out in the middle. Now you still have the tracks
running back there, okay, but you don't have the big
opener in the center, and so you can get three
sections of storage going on in your garage instead of
just two or even less because you've got the opener
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and the tracks to negotiate around. So that's something that
you should look into. A door wreck drive wall mounted
garage door opener bringing up the entire center space in
between the tracks of that sectional garage door. In addition
to that, I already mentioned slat boards or peg board.
There's still nothing wrong with peg board. Honestly the least
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expensive way to organize tools and stuff out in your
garage up above your workshop cabinets. Still nothing beats peg
board in economy and effectiveness at the same time, plus
stackable crates and again things that are staged, things like
tools that you use in your household all the time.
Let's say you don't have a workbench, then bucket organizers
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five gallon four dollars buckets from the big box store
with a good bucket organizer put inside one for gardening,
one for household tools, one for miscellaneous materials for a
project that you might be doing. Bucket organizers are a
brilliant way of getting things out of your way and
not losing track of them. All right, let's go back
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inside the house now. Okay, let's talk about those closets
we've purged. Now we've got stuff, and we want to
keep closets going in the best way possible. Closet systems
inside your closet. The oldest and most traditional closet system
is what we call in the industry shelf and pole,
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shelf and pole, and that is a closet rod with
a twelve inch shelf sitting above it, mounted to brackets.
Maybe the brackets are wood in old school shelf and pole.
Maybe they're metal brackets with a little cup on the
end that holds a little shelf or a platform that
holds the pole along there. There's absolutely nothing wrong with
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good old shelf and pole. It's the least expensive in
some ways, it's the most durable. Okay. The only thing
is if you're installing more of it yourself, you need
to make sure that a secure ledger on the back
that's holding up the shelf actually gets screwed into the studs,
not just the dry wall in between the studs. That's
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a sure path to disaster when it comes to shelf
and pole. Okay, so we want a ledger and we
want to hit the studs. So a little stud finder
and you can put in your own shelf and pole
really easily. Here is the thing. Though, I'm not a
big fan of pre built organizers. I find most of
them are kind of particle boardy and cheap and flimsy.
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I am a huge fan of top hanging closet systems. Okay,
top hanging closet systems. You can find them at place well,
you can find the most advanced forms of them at
a place like the Container Store, the Alpha system. You
can also find them at Ikea. You can find them
at home Depot and lows in the shelving aisles. They're
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kind of open wired shell coded wired shelves there. But
top hanging systems are brilliant. And what is that. It's
a system in which there is a hooked rail that
mounts all the way up against the ceiling and you
put several screws into it. And you know why, you
can do that easily all the way at the ceiling,
because that is where the top plate of your wall is.
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That's nothing but solid wood up there, left or right.
You don't have to find studs, it's all going to
hit wood. You can literally put a bunch of screws
into that top rail up there, and at that point
it can hold literally hold thousands of pounds. And then
with that rail come these hanging stanchions that hang down
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that have slots in them for shelves and or accessories.
They just clip on and they hang down on the wall.
All of their weight is being supported by the top
plate of the wall. And these stanchions coming down, they
can slide left and right, they can go wider, they
can go closer together. You can put a ton of
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different accessories. You can have single hanging, double hanging shoe racks,
all sorts of stuff going on them. It is a
great system. And the thing I love about it is
that it's a modular system, meaning, you know, closets, in
my opinion, should be allowed to evolve, just like people's
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lives evolved, just like like the home evolves, and you
go through different phases of time. Right, there's a time
when you need that long hanging for those formal suits
and the addresses, and there are other times when you're like,
you know what, I'm way past that now. I'm not
even wearing suits anymore. I'm not wearing We don't need
the dresses. We only need a very small space. I'd
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love to reorganize my closet. So the one downside of
shelf and poll or fixed fancy cabinets inside a closet,
as nice as they are, is that they don't have
a lot of flexibility. But these top hanging modular systems,
we can simply get all the clothes out of there,
slide some things around, take double hanging, turn it into
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single or single hanging, and turn it into double. We
can add storage shells, we can add shoe racks, we
can redesign the closet with the existing materials, and maybe
just adding another shelf for two and one more trip
to the store and another couple of accessories, and you
reconfigure the closet for your current needs. There is just
a lot of wisdom in having a closet system that's strong,
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that's efficient and modular, and that can change with your
changing needs. And if it all comes down to well,
that's all well, and goodeing. But I want a really nice,
fancy walking closet system. That's fine. I would suggest this.
You can call a place like California Closets. By the way,
as far as the closet places are concerned, they're not
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the sponsor of the show. But I'm going to give
you this endorsement. Those guys know how to do it well,
and I find the quality kind of what works well
with the pricing. But if you're going to get overly
fancy inside a closet, just get your cabinet guy involved.
Just bypass the typical closet stores and closet service people
because you will find that they are charging inordinately large
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prices and putting in materials that you wouldn't even put
in in your kitchen. And So, if you want a
quality cabinet built into your closet the way and you
want it to hold up the way your kitchen cabinets
hold up, and guess what, call the kitchen cabinet company
and have them work up a closet design for you
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and get that built in. You will not regret it.
Speaker 2 (25:35):
Right.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
If you're going to spend the money, just spend it
the right way. Otherwise, go with a modular system. You're
going to be thrilled all right more when we return.
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Happy Father's Day to you fathers out there. Hope you've
got great plans today to celebrate you. It's going to
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Tina was not that Tina was counting, but she was
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Just go there for more information. So wrapping up our
thoughts on storage and organization today, I've taken you through
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the steps that I've kind of developed over the years
that inadvertently ended up spelling the word SIPs. Is that
a word? What I get an actual scrabble score for SIPs?
I guess it's plural of sip, right, more than one
sip is SIPs. But that stands for sort, inventory, purge,
and store. And the reason I've taken you through those
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steps is because you know we, as we've said, storage
and getting rid of stuff and thinning out stuff in
our home. It's all it's all ahead game. It's all
about your head and your heart holding on to things,
and we all need to do a better job. I
think of letting go of those things, not letting go
of nostalgia or memory or anything like that. But you
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know you're coming to a home designer and you're asking
him whether or not you know something should be removed
from a room, or whether the amount of things in
a room should be lessened. You're going to get a
lecture on telling a story in that room, and you're
going to get my lecture on making focal points, not
having too much stuff distracting you from the story and
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the vibe that you want that room telling you. And
unless the story that you're trying to tell is confusion
and clutter, it's time to probably do some editing and
get rid of some things along the way. Sorting non
judgmentally without having to commit to throwing anything away is
the first most important step, and it gets you to
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that place where you've sorted things. Now you can inventory them,
and when you're looking at isolated categories like how many
T shirts do I actually own? How many socks do
I have? How many files of this or that of
medical records from when I was twelve or when the
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kids you know were years and years younger. How much
of this do we need to keep? That is when
when you see the piles of it just in one category,
it gives you emotional leverage over that and it allows
you to get rid of some stuff and to clear
it out. And then when it comes to storage, just
remember staging is for inside the house, closets and furniture.
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Staging it means short term storage or frequently used items.
Long term stuff. Get that out of the house, get
in another area, get it well organized in the garage
or a storage or area, or whatever the case may be.
Long term stuff. Treat it differently than staging along the way,
and you will have a happier, lighter life. And by
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the way, once you get all this set up, the
ongoing discipline is simply this. You're going to run into things.
Tina and I run into things every time we take
a trip. We're like, oh my gosh, I love that.
Let's bring it home and put it on display in
our home. We do it even now. The difference is
knowing that our room, most of the rooms in our
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house are full of the story that we're telling. So
bringing that home means that it's going to get exchanged
for something else that's already there because we don't just
keep adding to and adding to and adding to and
adding to. Okay, it just they can have their place.
And if you decide to rotate seasonally the story of
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a room, fine with that too, just put it in rotation.
It's like, you know what, I can't have this, that
and the other thing all here at once, but I
can do it every three months or every six months,
and everybody gets their shot at being on display in
the room, just like a Just like an art gallery
or a museum will have, you know, exhibits, roving exhibits
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that well, this exhibit will be on display for the
next three months, and don't miss out because then it
goes away for another year. These are all just methods
and techniques for doing this kind of thing, all right.
I hope I have helped you through at least a
couple of speed bumps along the way there and get
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you started in a good sense, all right. True confession,
I don't really have any brilliant Father's Day thoughts for
you today, but I'm going to be as transparent with
you as I can be here because it is Father's Day.
Here's my transparent confession. I woke up this morning really
missing my dad. I lost him thirty years ago, and
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the more I thought about that this morning, the more
I realized that I'm now the only person alive on
this planet who really knew him and who knew us
as father and son together. I'm the only one left
who holds those truths. He's still here with me because
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I have my stories and my albeit imperfect memories. But
it made me sad to think that when I'm gone,
he will be gone too. And that's sad because he mattered.
He wasn't famous or wealthy, or legendary or anything that
anybody else would think of being memorable. But he was
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my dad, and he mattered. I wish I knew him better.
I wish he'd been around to see who I've become.
He left this world just when I was starting to
become something as an adult. I wish he'd been around
to help me through a lot of the things that
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I've been through, instead of me always having to just
guess my way through what it means to be a
good man and a good person. I hope he would
be proud. Mostly I just wish he was around. I
still feel him in things like tools and pocket knives,
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fishing tackle, things that creep on creep up on me unexpectedly,
and suddenly he's there with me again, doing something like
when I was a kid. So that's all I got
for you today. I'm just gonna say this, This is
my dad. And if your dad is still around, just know,
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with all his frailties and his faltering and his imperfections,
he matters. And so find him, give him a hug
and let him know that he matters. And that's it.
And I hope that that's something that you can do
and that it's not too difficult, because I have a
feeling doing those kinds of things are the way that
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we continue, day by day to build ourselves a beautiful one.
And so very very happy Father's Day to all of
you today, have a great week. We'll see you right
back here next weekend. This has been Home with Dean
Sharp the House Whisper. Tune into the live broadcast on
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into the subject of organization and my own little system,
which I've very adorably called SIPs SIPs which stands for Sort, Inventory,
Purge and Store. This is not the end all of
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organizational systems. No, I'm not going to write a book
about it. It is just something that actually came to
me as I was processing through how I help our
own clients with their organizational issues. I realized that these
are the four steps that I go through and it
happens to spell the word SIPs. And what I thought
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was cute about it is that or interesting or both.
Is the fact that organization it's all ahead game. It's
all about our head and our heart fighting with each
other over things that are meaningful and things that we
don't want to let go of and things that we
don't want to edit harshly out of our lives or
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out of our homes. And that's why we all end
up holding onto more stuff than we should. Let's face it,
it's all in our head. It truly is our head
in our heart. And so this process of sorting and inventory,
purging and storing, it's SIPs. It's a way to kind
of help get around your heart issues on a thing.
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So you're taking a little sip of a thing, and
you don't have to be intimidated by, you know, guzzling
it all down at once like a fire hose. So
I got to I got through sorting, which is the
most critical step. It's also the easiest. We're not deciding
to keep anything or get rid of anything, or how
to store a thing. We're just making piles. I use
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the example of socks. There's really no way of really
getting an emotional sense of how many socks you have
until they're all in a pile together and then you
inventory them. Step two, you sort and then you inventory
how many socks do we have? We have forty seven
pairs of socks and about nineteen unmatched singles. Well, those
are gone, right, and then the forty seven pairs that
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are left. It allow you, once you've sorted something into
that small of a category, it allows you to be
more rational about this and say, I only have two feet.
There are only seven days in a week. If I
wore three pairs of socks every day all week long
for an entire week, okay, that's only twenty one pairs
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of socks. And that's if I don't do laundry during
the course of the week. So twenty one is not
forty seven. And that allows us some real emotional impetus
to make some cuts, right, to make some cuts, to
reduce down to what's really really necessary. And by the way,
I'm not talking about you having some spartan life in
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which you know, there's just there's your home, and there's
a stool in the corner and a you know, in
a hair shirt over there that you put on to
punish yourself, an itchy shirt, one piece of clothing. That's
not at all what we're talking about. What we're talking
about is max the storytelling capacity of your home by
editing things down and just dealing with a problem that
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we all deal with, which is too much stuff. Even
those who are economically challenged among us the most still
probably have too much stuff. Just something that happens to us.
So we have sorted, we have inventoried. Now comes the
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time to purge, right, And that is what I'm talking about.
When I say do I need forty seven pairs of
stock socks, It's time to toss those out.
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Speaker 1 (05:46):
Thanks for joining us on the program today. We're talking
about all things organization, and we've got to the place
in my little system of sorting, inventory, purging and storage
to give a little bit more intention to the purge.
We all know that's the hardest part of this whole process,
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the purge getting rid of some stuff. And there's not
a whole lot I can tell you other than to
approach this as rationally as possible. From the other two
steps they're sorting in the inventory, so you can actually
get some emotional and mental perspective around just how much
stuff you've got versus how much you need, and then
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we want to let it go. And we don't mean
throwing it away. Most of the things that you've got
that you're tempted to hang on to are going to
be things that other people could use as well, and
so pass it on, share the love. As our earlier
caller suggested as well, there's the Salvation Army, there's Goodwill,
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there's the Rescue Mission. There are places that will come
and pick up your stuff. There are places you can
take it too. They take everything from clothing to furniture
to everything, everything, everything, everything. The fact of the matter
is there are others who could use it, and if
that becomes an emotional point of leverage for you, allow
that to be the fact that this thing's life doesn't
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end with you, but it moves on and it can
find a new life and new memories with new people.
The point is this, there are things you want to
hold on to, things that aren't going to necessarily be
sitting in your house on display. Memorabilia nostalgia keepsakes. Nothing
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wrong with that. The only thing about keepsakes that become
problematic is when an entire garage and a rented storage
area and five other rooms in your house are all
full of them, because at this point they aren't serving you.
Keepsakes should be sorted in such a way that you
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can go and sit down for a little bit of
time you want to and revisit them. Not everything in
your life, not every moment in your life, not every
greeting card you ever received, not everything anybody has ever
given you. No life, no human life, can afford to
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hang on to its memorabilia and become the Smithsonian Institute
for your life. It's just not feasible, And believe me,
it is a far greater burden. Allow memory to serve
its function. And ideally, memorabilia are things that set off memories,
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not having to relive every single moment, every single detail,
but things that set off the best memories for you
along the way. Those are the things that are worthy
of keepsakes. And then we purge the rest, We purge,
we let it go. Now we finally come to the
question of storage, because when we've done our of sorting
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and inventory and purging, we've got stuff left and the
question is what do we do. How do we handle
the stuff that's left well, that finally comes to storage,
storage now me be really clear. Storage comes in two forms.
In fact, I'm so hesitant to even say this in
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the same sentence, but I'm gonna say it anyway. When
it comes to closets inside your house, that's not storage,
not storage at all, but I'm gonna just put it
in this term, right. Storage comes in two forms, staging
and long term storage. Now what's the difference. Okay, Well, technically,
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I guess everything that's in your home, inside a cupboard,
inside a cabinet, inside a chest of drawers, or furniture
or whatever, is storage. But I would rather you think
of it in terms of staging. What's in your house
is ideally best described as staging. What is staging. Staging
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is what furniture and closets are for. It is a
resting place, a short term storage place for frequently used
items to be able to access them. Okay, like your
sock drawer. Okay, not with forty seven pairs of socks
in it, but a few pair of socks, and it's
there for you to get to and get at because
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you go to it every single day. It's that kind
of thing. Staging. Staging is different than long term storage.
Long term storage are simply the things that have to
be stored away somewhere that are important but aren't going
to get used every week or every month or looked
at every other day. You know what I'm talking about.
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So I'm very serious about this, and I really push
my clients to the point of them usually being very
annoyed with me. But I'm very serious about it. Closets
in your home if you are using them as they
should be used in a home. And I'm a home designer,
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so I know all about what closets are for. They
are places where we stage things. Stage the clothing that
you actually wear, Stage the shoes and the socks, and
the hanging items that you actually realistically go to, stage
the stuff, the sports gear or the whatever that you
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actually use on a regular basis. Closets are short term
staging areas staging long term storage. That's for the garage
or for the storage shed, or for wherever else you've
got a room to do that kind of stuff. Long
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term storage, it's about crates, it's about shelving, it's about
organization and so on. In the garage. By the way,
the workbench staging the area above the workbench staging. Okay,
peg board or slat boards up there so that we
can put in little hooks and fixtures to hold tools,
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to organize the screwdriver set, to keep things organized and
clean and clear so you can get to it when
you need it and hang it up out of the
way when you don't need it. That is staging. Long
term storage is stuff that you know you still own,
but you don't have to see it or you're not
going to deal with it. And that's the kind of
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stuff that we want to get as clean and clear
as possible and up and out of the way. Long
term storage the one area that is just kind of
the hybrid between long term and store storage and staging
would be like holiday decorations, the stuff that comes out
seasonally because you know it's going to sit there for
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six plus months at a time, let's just call it seasonal.
If it's seasonal, it's gonna sit there in long term
storage for about nine months and then you need to
access it and then you use it and then it
goes away again. But other things are on long term
storage that aren't seasonal, they're just long term storage. Okay,
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So here are the clues about that. We want to
keep things off the floor as much as possible so
they're not in the way. But there are so many
options when it comes to long term storage these days.
I just walked through the aisles of my local home depot.
It's a couple three days ago, and I thought, you know,
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I'm going over and see what's going on with the
crates and everything. Man, every time I look there, there
are more and more storage ideas. Heavy duty storage racks
that hold crates in a way that they slide out
and are easily accessible. Crates are being built better and
better with stronger lids and longer sidewalls so that crates
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can be stacked and nested on one on another and
stand five six seven crates tall, only taking up a
relatively small area labeling the front of them so you
know what's in each one. There are so many ideas.
I'm going to share a few more with you, But first.
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Speaker 1 (14:25):
Happy Father's Day, Glad that you are here. It's a beautiful,
warm day here in sunny southern California. I hope wherever
you are today, wherever you're listening from, that the weather
is treating you well, and I hope that your family
is treating you well. And if you're a dad, happy
Father's Day. And I hope that your family is celebrating you. Today,
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we are finishing up our conversation about organization and storage
and all of it. And we've come to this place
now where we've gone through the sorting and the inventory
and the purging. I hope, I hope we've got enough
purged that we're in the storage mode. And I shared
with you before the break that storage in a home
comes in two forms, long term and staging. Closets in
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your home, furniture in your home, staging, staging. I guarantee you,
as hard as that may be to embrace, if you
set that as an inviolable rule for yourself that inside
your home furniture and closets are for staging items that
are frequently used, you will never live to regret it.
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Never live to regret it. Okay, you don't need more
closet space most of you. You just need less stuff
and to get a little bit more organized along the way.
It doesn't apply to everybody. I get it, I get it.
Don't write me emails about you don't know how small
my closet. I get it, especially if you live in
an older home, like a pre World War Two era home.
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I know, hardly any storage whatsoever. But what's interesting. You
know what's interesting about pre World War two homes. They
reflect a very very different lifestyle, a very very different
economic strata. Homes built before World War Two, built in
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the twenties and the thirties, which there are a lot
of them in every town, including here in southern California,
people just did not have as much stuff, and yet
they seem to be living perfectly, healthy and happy lives.
It's a different way of looking at the world. Material
possessions were on a different scale back then. That's why
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there aren't that big of a closet in the primary bedroom.
That's why there isn't as much storage. There just wasn't
as much stuff. Some to think about, That's all I'm saying.
It's something to think about when it comes to storage
for the garage. There are so many innovations these days
that are available heavy duty overhead racks. If you have
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a dry walled garage, or even if you don't, if
you've got a well supported garage ceiling above you, you could
take advantage of these overhead racks. They're built to work
around the garage door opener. Both sides of the garage
door opener take advantage of that area up there. They're
relatively easily accessible. Some of them are incredibly accessible. Some
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of them. If you've got the budget for this, you
can get a garage hoist, a motorized hoist that literally
will lower that stuff down to the floor of the garage.
You pull the car out, lower that down, get whatever
you need out of there. It's a good place to
store seasonal things, and then right up it goes back
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up to the ceiling again out of your way. It's
a tricky thing garage ceilings, because most garage ceilings still
have a traditional garage door opener that kind of cuts
off the whole midpoint of the garage. For some of you,
getting rid of that garage door opener is actually the
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first step in getting better organized in your garage. And
you're like, Dan, it's a garage door opener. I said,
I know. Here's the thing. The traditional garage door opener
that sits up on the ceiling and breaks up the
whole ceiling access up there can be replaced with a
modern garage door opener that is direct drive and actually
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mounts on the wall next to the garage door. Nothing
out in the middle. Now you still have the tracks
running back there, okay, but you don't have the big
opener in the center, and so you can get three
sections of storage going on in your garage instead of
just two or even less because you've got the opener
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and the tracks to negotiate around. So that's something that
you should look into. A door wreck drive wall mounted
garage door opener bringing up the entire center space in
between the tracks of that sectional garage door. In addition
to that, I already mentioned slat boards or peg board.
There's still nothing wrong with peg board. Honestly the least
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expensive way to organize tools and stuff out in your
garage up above your workshop cabinets. Still nothing beats peg
board in economy and effectiveness at the same time, plus
stackable crates and again things that are staged, things like
tools that you use in your household all the time.
Let's say you don't have a workbench, then bucket organizers
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five gallon four dollars buckets from the big box store
with a good bucket organizer put inside one for gardening,
one for household tools, one for miscellaneous materials for a
project that you might be doing. Bucket organizers are a
brilliant way of getting things out of your way and
not losing track of them. All right, let's go back
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inside the house now. Okay, let's talk about those closets
we've purged. Now we've got stuff, and we want to
keep closets going in the best way possible. Closet systems
inside your closet. The oldest and most traditional closet system
is what we call in the industry shelf and pole,
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shelf and pole, and that is a closet rod with
a twelve inch shelf sitting above it, mounted to brackets.
Maybe the brackets are wood in old school shelf and pole.
Maybe they're metal brackets with a little cup on the
end that holds a little shelf or a platform that
holds the pole along there. There's absolutely nothing wrong with
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good old shelf and pole. It's the least expensive in
some ways, it's the most durable. Okay. The only thing
is if you're installing more of it yourself, you need
to make sure that a secure ledger on the back
that's holding up the shelf actually gets screwed into the studs,
not just the dry wall in between the studs. That's
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a sure path to disaster when it comes to shelf
and pole. Okay, so we want a ledger and we
want to hit the studs. So a little stud finder
and you can put in your own shelf and pole
really easily. Here is the thing. Though, I'm not a
big fan of pre built organizers. I find most of
them are kind of particle boardy and cheap and flimsy.
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I am a huge fan of top hanging closet systems. Okay,
top hanging closet systems. You can find them at place well,
you can find the most advanced forms of them at
a place like the Container Store, the Alpha system. You
can also find them at Ikea. You can find them
at home Depot and lows in the shelving aisles. They're
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kind of open wired shell coded wired shelves there. But
top hanging systems are brilliant. And what is that. It's
a system in which there is a hooked rail that
mounts all the way up against the ceiling and you
put several screws into it. And you know why, you
can do that easily all the way at the ceiling,
because that is where the top plate of your wall is.
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That's nothing but solid wood up there, left or right.
You don't have to find studs, it's all going to
hit wood. You can literally put a bunch of screws
into that top rail up there, and at that point
it can hold literally hold thousands of pounds. And then
with that rail come these hanging stanchions that hang down
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that have slots in them for shelves and or accessories.
They just clip on and they hang down on the wall.
All of their weight is being supported by the top
plate of the wall. And these stanchions coming down, they
can slide left and right, they can go wider, they
can go closer together. You can put a ton of
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different accessories. You can have single hanging, double hanging shoe racks,
all sorts of stuff going on them. It is a
great system. And the thing I love about it is
that it's a modular system, meaning, you know, closets, in
my opinion, should be allowed to evolve, just like people's
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lives evolved, just like like the home evolves, and you
go through different phases of time. Right, there's a time
when you need that long hanging for those formal suits
and the addresses, and there are other times when you're like,
you know what, I'm way past that now. I'm not
even wearing suits anymore. I'm not wearing We don't need
the dresses. We only need a very small space. I'd
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love to reorganize my closet. So the one downside of
shelf and poll or fixed fancy cabinets inside a closet,
as nice as they are, is that they don't have
a lot of flexibility. But these top hanging modular systems,
we can simply get all the clothes out of there,
slide some things around, take double hanging, turn it into
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single or single hanging, and turn it into double. We
can add storage shells, we can add shoe racks, we
can redesign the closet with the existing materials, and maybe
just adding another shelf for two and one more trip
to the store and another couple of accessories, and you
reconfigure the closet for your current needs. There is just
a lot of wisdom in having a closet system that's strong,
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that's efficient and modular, and that can change with your
changing needs. And if it all comes down to well,
that's all well, and goodeing. But I want a really nice,
fancy walking closet system. That's fine. I would suggest this.
You can call a place like California Closets. By the way,
as far as the closet places are concerned, they're not
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the sponsor of the show. But I'm going to give
you this endorsement. Those guys know how to do it well,
and I find the quality kind of what works well
with the pricing. But if you're going to get overly
fancy inside a closet, just get your cabinet guy involved.
Just bypass the typical closet stores and closet service people
because you will find that they are charging inordinately large
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prices and putting in materials that you wouldn't even put
in in your kitchen. And So, if you want a
quality cabinet built into your closet the way and you
want it to hold up the way your kitchen cabinets
hold up, and guess what, call the kitchen cabinet company
and have them work up a closet design for you
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and get that built in. You will not regret it.
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Right.
Speaker 1 (25:35):
If you're going to spend the money, just spend it
the right way. Otherwise, go with a modular system. You're
going to be thrilled all right more when we return.
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Happy Father's Day to you fathers out there. Hope you've
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Just go there for more information. So wrapping up our
thoughts on storage and organization today, I've taken you through
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the steps that I've kind of developed over the years
that inadvertently ended up spelling the word SIPs. Is that
a word? What I get an actual scrabble score for SIPs?
I guess it's plural of sip, right, more than one
sip is SIPs. But that stands for sort, inventory, purge,
and store. And the reason I've taken you through those
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steps is because you know we, as we've said, storage
and getting rid of stuff and thinning out stuff in
our home. It's all it's all ahead game. It's all
about your head and your heart holding on to things,
and we all need to do a better job. I
think of letting go of those things, not letting go
of nostalgia or memory or anything like that. But you
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know you're coming to a home designer and you're asking
him whether or not you know something should be removed
from a room, or whether the amount of things in
a room should be lessened. You're going to get a
lecture on telling a story in that room, and you're
going to get my lecture on making focal points, not
having too much stuff distracting you from the story and
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the vibe that you want that room telling you. And
unless the story that you're trying to tell is confusion
and clutter, it's time to probably do some editing and
get rid of some things along the way. Sorting non
judgmentally without having to commit to throwing anything away is
the first most important step, and it gets you to
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that place where you've sorted things. Now you can inventory them,
and when you're looking at isolated categories like how many
T shirts do I actually own? How many socks do
I have? How many files of this or that of
medical records from when I was twelve or when the
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kids you know were years and years younger. How much
of this do we need to keep? That is when
when you see the piles of it just in one category,
it gives you emotional leverage over that and it allows
you to get rid of some stuff and to clear
it out. And then when it comes to storage, just
remember staging is for inside the house, closets and furniture.
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Staging it means short term storage or frequently used items.
Long term stuff. Get that out of the house, get
in another area, get it well organized in the garage
or a storage or area, or whatever the case may be.
Long term stuff. Treat it differently than staging along the way,
and you will have a happier, lighter life. And by
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the way, once you get all this set up, the
ongoing discipline is simply this. You're going to run into things.
Tina and I run into things every time we take
a trip. We're like, oh my gosh, I love that.
Let's bring it home and put it on display in
our home. We do it even now. The difference is
knowing that our room, most of the rooms in our
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house are full of the story that we're telling. So
bringing that home means that it's going to get exchanged
for something else that's already there because we don't just
keep adding to and adding to and adding to and
adding to. Okay, it just they can have their place.
And if you decide to rotate seasonally the story of
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a room, fine with that too, just put it in rotation.
It's like, you know what, I can't have this, that
and the other thing all here at once, but I
can do it every three months or every six months,
and everybody gets their shot at being on display in
the room, just like a Just like an art gallery
or a museum will have, you know, exhibits, roving exhibits
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that well, this exhibit will be on display for the
next three months, and don't miss out because then it
goes away for another year. These are all just methods
and techniques for doing this kind of thing, all right.
I hope I have helped you through at least a
couple of speed bumps along the way there and get
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you started in a good sense, all right. True confession,
I don't really have any brilliant Father's Day thoughts for
you today, but I'm going to be as transparent with
you as I can be here because it is Father's Day.
Here's my transparent confession. I woke up this morning really
missing my dad. I lost him thirty years ago, and
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the more I thought about that this morning, the more
I realized that I'm now the only person alive on
this planet who really knew him and who knew us
as father and son together. I'm the only one left
who holds those truths. He's still here with me because
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I have my stories and my albeit imperfect memories. But
it made me sad to think that when I'm gone,
he will be gone too. And that's sad because he mattered.
He wasn't famous or wealthy, or legendary or anything that
anybody else would think of being memorable. But he was
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my dad, and he mattered. I wish I knew him better.
I wish he'd been around to see who I've become.
He left this world just when I was starting to
become something as an adult. I wish he'd been around
to help me through a lot of the things that
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I've been through, instead of me always having to just
guess my way through what it means to be a
good man and a good person. I hope he would
be proud. Mostly I just wish he was around. I
still feel him in things like tools and pocket knives,
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fishing tackle, things that creep on creep up on me unexpectedly,
and suddenly he's there with me again, doing something like
when I was a kid. So that's all I got
for you today. I'm just gonna say this, This is
my dad. And if your dad is still around, just know,
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with all his frailties and his faltering and his imperfections,
he matters. And so find him, give him a hug
and let him know that he matters. And that's it.
And I hope that that's something that you can do
and that it's not too difficult, because I have a
feeling doing those kinds of things are the way that
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we continue, day by day to build ourselves a beautiful one.
And so very very happy Father's Day to all of
you today, have a great week. We'll see you right
back here next weekend. This has been Home with Dean
Sharp the House Whisper. Tune into the live broadcast on
KFI AM six forty every Saturday morning from six to
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eight Pacific time, and every Sunday morning from nine to
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