May 11, 2025 • 37 mins
Dean answers listener questions on everything from choosing the right white paint for rentals to fixing cement board cracks and solving the dreaded “water hammer” pipe noise. Plus, stove hood options for island cooktops, how to properly paint composite trim, and why vinyl-safe paint could save your project. It’s color, construction, and real-world fixes—served straight from the House Whisperer.
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Design for more information. All right, we're having some fun
this morning on Mother's Day, a colorful day usually, and
we are talking color theory today because color baffles so
many people when it comes to the practical outworking of color.
We're going to return to that discussion. But it is
the top of the hour of our second hour, and
so as is our tradition, it is time to go
(02:03):
to the phones. And I want to talk to Rick. Hey, Rick,
welcome home.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Hello, Hello Katie, can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yes? I can? How can I help you? My friend?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So, I have a rental and I'm going to determine
I'm going to paint in all light and the inside
because uh, it was some colors are picked up by
a designer in the past, when do you decide if
you need to use a primer or not for the
inside obviously for the outside of the house, you did,
you know, I understand I have to use a primer,
but the inside is it is it important to do that?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well? You know, it depends if the if the paint
that's on the wall is in good shape, okay, uh
and uh, and it doesn't have too heavy of achine
on it, if it's flat paint or a matte kind
of paint, then you can get away with what they call,
you know, paint and primer in one, right, those kinds
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of combos. Just about every major manufacturer makes a version
of their paint, which is paint slash primer in one
and you can get decent cover and as long as though,
as long as the wall colors aren't too intense. Elma
and I were talking before the show about he's got
black walls in some of his place and like when
he moves out, he wanted to know, like, no, what
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do I need to do? Am I gonna be able
to cover up those black walls? And I told him
black not without a primer first, primer code first, and
then another coat of white on top of that and
you should be good to go. But if they're just
you know, pastel's or you know, nothing too serious, and
the paint is in decent shape, then you could go
on top of the existing paint. Now, if you're going
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Bear primer is for when there is nothing on the wall,
and you never use a paint primer combo with Bear drywall, okay,
because it is not designed to go on without any
primer code it all. Even though it makes that claim,
A paint primer combo is basically just there so that
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you can put a coat on an existing layer of
decently applied paint and change the color or neutralize it
or whatever. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
That makes sense?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
All right?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Can how manything else usually recommend? Do you recommend using
two coats or it just depends on if you're going
from you know, a dark color to light color?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, if you're going
from a heavy dark colored to two coats, definitely, I
always recommend two coats because it's just nice. But if
you can get it done with one, if you're if
you're changing like, for instance, a light tan wall, I
mean just really light like sandy beige, wall to white.
Then one coat of a good quality of paint on
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top of that should get the job done. You know,
you'll know, you'll know, that's the point. You'll know. You'll
know after you put that first coat on, you let
it dry, and you walk in, you're like, you know what,
it looks fine. And if it looks fine, it is fine.
That's the point, right, That's kind of where we were
talking about already. Color. It's in our heads. And if
your eyeball is interpreting the color in the room after
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you put a single coat of white on top of
a lighter color that, yeah, this room is white now,
then you know what You're good to go.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Perfect.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Okay, I have one more quick question. Do we have
time or can I should I call that?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, now let's do it. Let's do it, let's go.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I have on the outside of the house, I have
a cement and board and it's a white house, pretty
bright white. And I've noticed we bought the house a
few years ago, that there's starting to be little cracks
in the cement board I think it's called cement board.
And we had the painter come out and try to
fill in the cracks and they seem to be coming back.
Is there any sort of filler that sort of stretches
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that you'd recommend for that? And again it's it's like
a white surface.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Okay, so is it smooth cement board on the outside
of the house, large sheets? Are we talking about cementious sighting?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Large sheets? Yeah, the cement sides, board siding. It's like
the hardy board or I don't know what you'd call them.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, best thing you can do for
uh now, No, they filled it and it looked good
and then it cracked again.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, in about six months. We live a couple of
miles from the beach, so it's not too you know,
it doesn't get too hot here, so we don't live
off the beach a couple of miles.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So you know, these are like spidery cracks, very thin cracks.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
They start like that, they get a little bit wider,
definitely wider than spidery Okay, all right, well, probably the
thing that stretches or something.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the mistake is that that
and this has always been a tough thing because you know,
you approach a crack in a wall for paint purposes,
either from a spacklepective perspective right, spackling in the crack
or from a culking perspective, and there's a there's a
short side to both of them. Spackle is a nice
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solid filler and you can smooth it out and then
it doesn't recede back when it dries, and so it
gives you that smooth, continuous, can't see the crack anymore
kind of scenario. But it is brittle, and so if
the crack shifts a little bit more, then the crack returns, okay.
Calking is the opposite. Caulking is stretchy, okay, But when
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calking dries, it actually recedes a little bit, and so
it has a tendency to show where it was. You're
like jeanez, I thought I filled that thing, and now
I can still see where the crack was. But as
it stretches, it actually bridges the gap, and the crack
itself doesn't tend to come back, but you can see
the indentation. Fortunately. Now there are some bridging products, and
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you've got to find this at a good paint store,
but there are some bridging products that are kind of
spackley with elast americ compounds in them. That'll get both
jobs done. They're not super you can find them at
better dedicated paint stores, not so much out on the
on the shelf at the big box store, but they exist.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
What is it called a It's like a lastomeric bridging.
Is that exactly what I have them to look for?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, that's that's what you want to ask for. Yeah,
there are different brands you want to ask them. You
get explained. I got cement board. I got it. I
needed to be filled, but I also needed to stretch
when I'm done, and uh, and they'll get you in
the right direction. And then you may want to paint
with an elastomeric based paint on top of that, so
the paint itself has a stretching crack bridging to you know,
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capacity if the crack wants to return. So there's kind
of a you know, a double layer of protection that
you could approach that with as you go. Rick, Thanks
for the questions, Bud, and for the call. I hope
that helps uh and get you going in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
When we returned, we will go back to the phones.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
We're talking color today and color theory and how you
get your arms around it and the practical wrestling of
color in your home so you get the colors that
you actually want. Well, we're going to return to that
conversation in just a bit, but it's second hour, which
means we're taking calls, and I want to go back
to the phones. I want to talk to Steve. Hey, Steve,
(09:25):
welcome home, Hello young man.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Hello Mike. Yes, how you doing. I'm doing a great job.
You're doing a great job, and I would like to
ask you a question about possibly a plumber could help me.
But we had our bathroom redone, and then ever since then,
when we would turn the faucet on in the kitchen
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and turn off quick, it makes a pounding noise like
pressure or something. So I don't know if we have
to dig into the wall again. We did tile everything
in there. We did the trick with the water heater,
but that didn't fix it. So what do you think?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
All right, Well, you are you have become a victim
of the water hammer effect. That's what you're water hammer
is common. It's not your plumber's fault. Nobody did anything wrong.
It is Yeah, No, what it is. You know, water
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rushes through pipes, it turns corners, and as it turns corners,
it causes what's like in the world of ships and
submarines and stuff, is called cavitation. Right as what you know,
it doesn't turn a corner as smoothly as we think
it does. Some of that energy gets kind of bundled
up and it creates different kind of pressures that happen
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as a result. So you never know. I mean, it's
just virtually impossible to know. We've plumbed entire you know,
eighteen thousand and square foot homes with seemingly miles and
miles of hot and cold water lines and never had
a single water hammer issue with any faucet, and then
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we've turn around and done very similar house and it's
all over the place. It really has to do with
when you think of your hot and cold running water system,
thinking of it as a gigantic flute, and sometimes it
makes noise and sometimes it doesn't, depending on the twists
and the turn. So here's the thing. It's not the
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plumber's fault because there's just no way to anticipate it.
But fortunately the fix can be pretty dang simple. You
can find sitting on the shelf at the big box store,
at your local plumber supply store, a device called water
hammer Arrestor, And what it literally is is it's kind
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of like a three to four inch sort of copper
nipple device. Inside that tube is a spring and essentially
a shock absorber. It's a shock absorber, and a water
hammer Arrestor can be put in line by a plumber
somewhere up in the attic, but it can also they
have them that it can be installed literally underneath a
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sink in the new bathroom. You can take off the
angle stop that's the valve that's there, and install the
water hammer arrest or first, and then put the angle
stop back on, and you know, just with wrenches, and
more often than not, one or two of these, one
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on the hot line, one on the cold line will
solve the problem. And if it doesn't completely solve it,
then you find another location under another sink and you
add a couple of more. They're inexpensive, they're easy to install,
and that cavitation that's happening in the line, just because
of the configuration of the lines, the shock of as
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will do their job. They'll absorb that shock instead of
letting it reverberate through the pipes all the way through
the house and cause that that uh that you hear
when uh let me get the door, get the door.
Oh there you go, my friend. That's uh, that's that's
the solve. And so it's it's good news. It's you know,
(13:23):
it's not great news, but it's a shout out.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And they give a shout out to uh, my favorite
restaurant and Moro Bay.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Uh sure, why not.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
You've probably been there, but it's carlss for breakfast. Oh
my gosh, Oh yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Oh yeah, are you up in Moro Bed?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
No, I avoid that like the plague today because the
Mother's Day. But I'm sure they're very busy. And but
it's just a shout out because they might even be listening.
You never know. But that is the place to go
if you're in Moro Bay.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Carlis Maro Bay is the place to go. We were
up there a few months ago and spent a week
there in the Pomo overlooking more Obay and then just
enjoying the whole area.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
It is.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It is delicious. It is a delicious place.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Well, I've got good memories of my parents going there.
I've got good memories from my honeymoon and many many
meals there, and this sunsets and just beautiful. So all right,
thank you, mister Dean. You're doing a great job, and
keep up the good work.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Thank you, sir, Thanks Steve, thanks for the question, Thanks
for the vote of confidence. Always love it when when
people are appreciated. Not everybody is always appreciative, by the way,
so that's just the nature of things. Let me tell
you about an email that we got yesterday. On that note, Tina,
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you want to wait here, turn your mica, and I'm
the one who reads those, Yes you are. We can't
actually use the like I'll even tell you what it said.
But the worst it was quite irate about because I
had mentioned, Yeah, somebody called yesterday and wanted to know,
is there a way to keep rattlesnakes out of our
three acre property? And I described snake fencing, and I
(15:10):
described some snake repellent that is actually very effective, non toxic,
not going to kill any snakes. But I did mention
that I was familiar with the problem because as a
youth living in a big open space, we often had
rattlesnakes come in way too close to the house. And
(15:31):
at the time, my father had given me instructions that
you know, if you go outside, you're in charge of this, dean,
because your mother is not physically able to do this
because she was sickly. But my father would say, you're
in charge of this, and so you go outside if
there's a rattlesnake that has curled up in near the house,
on the patio or on the cool concrete, to dispatch
(15:54):
that snake. And I had mentioned to the caller that
I by the time I had reached young adulthood, I
had a large peanut butter jar, empty peanut butter jar
full of rattlesnake rattles from the rattlesnakes that I had
had to dispatch to. You know, I thought, keep my
family safe because they were getting into close and we
just lived in a big open area without fencing, and
(16:16):
so it was difficult to avoid. That's all I said.
And it's one thing, that's all I said. To not
agree with you, that's the kind I don't like killing animals.
But basically we just as a grown We got an
email yesterday essentially that said I was going to burn
in hell for killing wildlife. And so you know, I
appreciate when guys like Steve call up and say that
(16:39):
we're doing a good So that's just that's all. I
have nothing against rattlesnakes, by the way, except when they
try to bite me. Other than that, no problem whatsoever.
I love animals. Olivia is here. She will tell you
Papa loves animals. Okay, there you go, tell him, tell
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them Olivia, he loves animals. And also my dog is
right here. Not okay, so there you go. See all right,
all right, sit down, you be quiet. Now, we're gonna
get you your own show when we return more of
your calls. I just wanted to share that with you.
It's not a big deal. I'm just saying, hopefully I
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don't burn in hill because of my rattlesnake jar uh.
When we return more of your calls. Your Home with
Dean Sharp the House Whisper.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI Am sixty.
Speaker 1 (17:38):
You are Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisper, here
to take your ordinary house and help you make it
an extraordinary home, like we do every weekend live Saturday mornings,
six to eight Pacific time, Sunday mornings, nine to noon
Pacific time. We're talking color and color theory, and we're
gonna be just about we're just about ready to move
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into the practical ads on how do you get your
arms around color problems. But we're still right here middle
hour taking some calls and honoring you and everything that's
going on with your home today. So I want to
go back to the phones and I want to talk
to Joe. Hey, Joe, welcome home.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Oh, good morning, Dean. First, I'll say thank goodness. We're
past the color stage of our renovation project.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Really, we have rested with that as well.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Oh, we certainly did. We finally hired a designer to
help us with it, and it came out just fine.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
We are.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
We have a stove that's on a stovetop that's on
an island, and we've lived there for twenty years without
a hood. But we're moving out and converting it to
a rental unit now, so we need to put in
a stovehood. I understand many of the ones I've looked
at say that they're can vertible, and I'm understanding that
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to mean that either you can put a duct from
the unit up through the attic and the roof, or
alternatively by two carbon filters for twenty five bucks apiece
and not have to duct it. And I'm wondering, am
I understanding that correctly or not? And what is your
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recommendation concerning this?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Okay, really, really good question. It's a confusing whirl of
vent hoods. By the way, let me ask you first
and foremost, the stovetop itself, the stove gas electric. What
do you got going there?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Gas?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Thirty six inch gas?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Okay, So let me explain this real quickly, just because
people are confused by it, and rightly so, because it
is a confusing area of the code. Okay, technically speaking,
the Internet Building Code has no concern whatsoever how much
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fish smell or smoke from searing your steak fills up
your kitchen great or your home. Okay, the technically technically,
if you have an electric cook top, then there is
no code requirement for a hood at all, because the
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hood idea was was added to the code as a
way of exhausting uncombusted gas fumes out of the house
as a safety issue, uncombusted fumes and particulates from a
gas burner, because no gas burner combusts all the gas
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that is coming out of the burner, there's always some
you know, leftover, So that would that would lead us
to the conclusion then that Okay, if that's the case,
then why is isn't it also a code requirement that
every time I turn on my gas burner, the hood
vent has to turn on automatically to evacuate those gas particulars.
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But that's not a part of the code. You can
install one of these things and never turn it on
for your entire life, and uh, it's perfectly okay with
the code. It's a gigantic, gaping hole in the way
that the building code handles, you know, this particular issue.
So I just want to explain that to everybody. If
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you have an electric cook top, an induction cooktop, or
an electric cook top stand, you know, a conventional electric
cook top, technically you don't need a vent hood. If
you have a gas burner, technically you do need one,
and you never have to use it. Most people, though,
are most concerned about, all right, well, when I when
I you know, see a steak, or if I accidentally
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burn something, or if I'm cooking fish or something like that,
I want to get rid of the odors, and I
want to get rid of the excess smoke and or
steam or whatever is coming off the cook top. That
is what most people are thinking about when they think
about vent hoods, and there are two ways to go
about it. You conduct it, meaning that the hood leads in,
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brings all that to smoke in and directs it with
a fan through a ducting system and blows it to
the outside of the house. It doesn't have to go
straight up. It can go sideways once it's in the attic.
It can go through ceiling joists or floor joists or
whatever the case may be, as long as it gets
to the outside of the house and the fan is
powerful enough to push it along and there you go.
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The other option is often found in apartments and things
like that, are hoods that can also utilize a two
stage charcoal filter and draw the air up through the
charcoal filter. The charcoal filter, in theory, catches most of
the particles from the smoke and are a lot of
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the odors from the cooking, and then that air is
blown back into the kitchen space, which again is ironic
when you think about the fact that if that hood
is venting a gas you know cook top, then that
gas those the charcoal filter does not capture the gas
let off, and it blows it back into the kitchen space,
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the same space that it started in. And yet the
code allows that to So just a little bit of
confusing part for the code, but yes, you are correct.
Either ducked less, which is running through standard charcoal filters,
or duck did out of the house, which is better. Well,
ducked it out of the house is always going to
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be better. I mean you don't find many ducked less
hoods in you know, professional kitchens, in executive kitchens, or
in restaurants. In fact, they're not allowed in an executive
kitchen to recirculate the air back into the kitchen environment.
They have to take it out and has to be
blown outside. So yeah, that's better, But both are allowed.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
And then did you say it could be inducted into
the I mean not ducted, but into the attic and
out the vents or up through the roof.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Either it can be taken out through the roof. It
can be taken out through the side gable of a
roofing system. We can't just run it up to we
can't just run an open ducked up to an outside
vent and just sort of allow it to sort of
push its way out there. It needs a positive connection
to the outside of the house, but it doesn't have
to go through the roof. It could go through it
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could run horizontally and go through a vent attachment on
the outside of a house or on the outside of
a gable.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, Well, that answers
my questions. I certainly appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
And Joe, if you want to take a look just
for fun, if you want to take a look at
literally what the cutting a edge of duct less hoods are,
then go to Plasma Plasma, Maade, dot Com Plasma. I'm sorry,
Plasma made USA, dot com Plasma. They're the company Tina
(25:15):
and I saw at the last builder show. They have
They have created a series of electronically high voltagely charged
filters that create a plasma field that literally does eliminate
all smoke, odor, and micron particulates out of the air
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and then restores clean air into the room without using
a duck. Now, the filters themselves cost I don't know,
eleven twelve hundred dollars, but their filters are designed this
is the cool thing to be used with any vent
hood so they don't make vent hoods. They simply make
this filter which installs in what looks like a duck
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leaving the room, but could literally just be a pipe
or a flu that goes up to the ceiling and
goes no further. It's pretty impressive, so you guys should
you should check that out as well. It's plasmamade usa
dot com if you want to see what is currently
the cutting edge of efficient recirculated nonducted vent hoods. Pretty
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impressive stuff, but yeah, it either has to go out
or recirculate through some kind of filter.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
By the way, if if you enjoyed Tim as much
as I do, just know that on Thursday evenings, every
Thursday evening just about just about unless for some reason
I can't get there, But every Thursday evening I hang
out with him from about six twenty till about six fifty.
We come on and we just talk about all things home.
I give him notes ahead time about what we're talking about,
(27:01):
and then we flip a coin as to whether we
actually get to that topic or not, or we just
wander off and talk about something else. But it's always great.
It's always great. We always have a great time every
Thursday evening. Tim Conway Junior and the House Whisper at
six point twenty right here on Kofi. All right, y'all,
(27:22):
we're talking color today. We're about to return to that subject,
but I want to finish up calls for the day,
which means I want to talk to Rick. Hey, Rick,
welcome home.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Hey, Good morning, Dean. My question is in regards to
the exterior window trims and doors and the big garage door. Recently,
my wife wanted to redo the wood trims because they
got damage and rotted and all that good stuff. So
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she went ahead, and she was thinking out of the box,
and she decided to do the the bender board that
you find in the garden areas of the big box stores,
and that trimmed out and mounted around the windows and
doors and such. And it looks great, and it looks
like it's going to hold up a lot longer than
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the wood. However, the issue that I'm having is I
put some of that Zenzer primer on there and then
put some paint. I started with several windows, and once
it cured in all this just bumping into it or
if you just like scratch it with your nail or whatnot,
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it's literally just like flaking off, and it's showing the
brown bender board, so obviously it's not adhering to it.
And also the primer wasn't thick enough apparently to cover
up the small little screw holes which they use to
mount up. And there's little like beings and scratches and
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stuff like that, little imperfections on that plast bender board.
So I was wondering what you suggest that would adhere
to that bender board so that way when the paint
goes on, it sticks and it holds up. Because I
got about thirty to forty windows and doors to do
on the exterior, and I would really like for it
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to last.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I got you, I got you, all right, Well, all right,
I'm going to give you some advice. It's going to
be qualified advice. Qualified because and here's the thing. When
we say plastic composite, plastic composite sounds like a very
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technical term, and it is, but in reality, it's a
generalist term that means I don't know whatever that stuff's
made out of. So yeah, since I don't know what
that stuff is made out of, I really don't. I honestly,
you know, if someone is with to call in with
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a gardening question and say, you know that brown bender
board that we put around our you know what is
that stuff made out? I don't know, recycled trash bags,
coke bottles. I'm not sure. I actually don't know what
that stuff is made out of. And it makes a
difference ultimately because plastic is a super super scientifically generalist term.
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In fact, sometimes plastic doesn't even mean a chemical compound plastic.
It just means that something's bendable or that's moldable. Right,
we talk about the plasticity of the human brain. Our
brains aren't made out of plastic, but they are bendable.
So I'm not sure, Rick, but I will tell you this.
Typically plastic composite window trims that we work with in
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for industry windows stuff, it is always one hundred percent
acrylic latex exterior paint. Hundred percent acrylic latex exterior paint,
and not a generalist primer, okay, but a specific primer.
So the idea is to work backwards. The idea is
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to find a high quality like Benjamin Moore exterior acrylic
latex paint, and then walk backwards and say, all right,
this is the paint we're going to try, which is
the primer that is specifically designed to grab onto this
paint and the surface beneath it, and then you work
from there. I never find, actually, and this may encourage you,
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I've never found that just the generalists like Kills or
the Zins primers do a great job on plastic based
materials outside. So what I want is I want to
go straight to the paint company, deal with them, and
they do nowadays make some extraordinary stuff. In fact, I
would probably lean towards either Sherwin Williams are Benjamin Moore
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as far as their vinyl specialty paints. They both make
a vinyl safe specialty paint. And this is another thing
I didn't ask you how dark these trims are, whether
they're white or whether they're a different color. But for
anybody who's thinking about painting plastic composite trims on the
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outside of their house, or painting their vinyl windows or
the edges of their vinyl windows with a dark color,
you gotta be really careful about that because dark colors absorb.
Now we've gone back to color. Dark colors absorb light
and therefore they absorb heat. You know, It's like most
of us don't wear black t shirts out on one
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hundred degree day because it absorbs so much light and heat,
and then it can actually weaken and soften the vinyl
or the plastic of the trim. So there are companies
like Sherwyn Williams and Benjamin Moore. I love Benjamin Moore's product.
It does amazing stuff. It is a special for vinyl
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that actually has built into it solar reflective coating properties
that reflect out a lot of that stuff and keep
the vinyl or the plastic from warping or buckling. So
the best, and it's fully qualified because I do not
know what that stuff is actually made out of, and
in the end it's science as to what binds to what.
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But I would recommend that you go with a high
quality paint like Benjamin Moore, go with their Vinyl series
exterior stuff, and then go with the primer that Benjamin
Moore mates to that paint to put it onto the trim.
And as far as the holes are concerned, bondo not spackle,
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not caulking to fill the holes. Bondo, the epoxy based
the mix, the catalyst and the putty together, smooth it over,
leave it high, and then give it a little sanding
once it dries in all of five to ten minutes.
Give it a little sane to sand it smooth Bondo. Yes,
like the automotive autobody Bondo stuff. That is the gold
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standard when it comes to exterior durable hole and crack patching.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
How's that rick, Yeah, that sounds a pretty good, Dean,
and it is the dark benderboard unfortunately, so it does
attract the UV's and all that fun stuff. And yeah,
that gives us a good start there. I was even
thinking since you mentioned that bondo, would it be like
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putting a thin coat of the bondo across because it's
about three inches wide, and then having the primer adhere
to that a little bit better? Or just go right
into the primer you're saying, and then go with the paint.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
You know, you know what, that's a really creative idea
and I'm not against it. I'm not against that idea
at all, but it may not be necessary. Here's what
I recommend. I know, I can tell you for a
fact that that that those high quality paints will will
bond to the bondo. Absolutely, it's a given. Bondo is
made in part for that kind of adhesion of paint.
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That's why they use it on autobody stuff. But here's
what I would do. I would go to your local
Benjamin More retailer, Adelina Paints or whatever is nearby in
your area. Take a section, take a go, get a
piece of that of that venderboard stuff, take it into
them and say, here's my problem. All my windows are
trimmed with this stuff. What's going to stick to it?
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And the thing that you get, the thing that you
get at a professional paint store like a Benjamin More retailer,
is you get real paint professionals behind the counter, not
the person who was trained. You know, like I said
earlier in the show, you know, I got nothing against
people who work at Forever twenty one, but not when
i'm you know, they were working there last month and
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now they've got about six hours of training on the
color mixing machine and that's it. They don't know how
to paint a house. And so that's why I send
you to a pro paint store because you're going to
get that advice and you're gonna have you know, you
get the old guy out of the back who's like
looking at and like, you know, this looks like and
they're going to figure out how to get paint to
adhere to that. I promise you. So I know I'm
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pointing you in the right direction. I just don't want
to absolutely tell you oh for sure, it's it's a
grillic one hundred percent and no problem. Take that sample in,
let them look at it, have a conversation with them.
I think they're going to point you in the same
direction as well, and then take it from there. Rick,
Thanks for the call, buddy, really really good call. This
is why we take calls, because we end up with
such interesting questions and answers that help everybody along the way.
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this morning on Mother's Day, a colorful day usually, and
we are talking color theory today because color baffles so
many people when it comes to the practical outworking of color.
We're going to return to that discussion. But it is
the top of the hour of our second hour, and
so as is our tradition, it is time to go
(02:03):
to the phones. And I want to talk to Rick. Hey, Rick,
welcome home.
Speaker 3 (02:09):
Hello, Hello Katie, can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Yes? I can? How can I help you? My friend?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
So, I have a rental and I'm going to determine
I'm going to paint in all light and the inside
because uh, it was some colors are picked up by
a designer in the past, when do you decide if
you need to use a primer or not for the
inside obviously for the outside of the house, you did,
you know, I understand I have to use a primer,
but the inside is it is it important to do that?
Speaker 1 (02:39):
Well? You know, it depends if the if the paint
that's on the wall is in good shape, okay, uh
and uh, and it doesn't have too heavy of achine
on it, if it's flat paint or a matte kind
of paint, then you can get away with what they call,
you know, paint and primer in one, right, those kinds
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of combos. Just about every major manufacturer makes a version
of their paint, which is paint slash primer in one
and you can get decent cover and as long as though,
as long as the wall colors aren't too intense. Elma
and I were talking before the show about he's got
black walls in some of his place and like when
he moves out, he wanted to know, like, no, what
(03:24):
do I need to do? Am I gonna be able
to cover up those black walls? And I told him
black not without a primer first, primer code first, and
then another coat of white on top of that and
you should be good to go. But if they're just
you know, pastel's or you know, nothing too serious, and
the paint is in decent shape, then you could go
on top of the existing paint. Now, if you're going
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Bear primer is for when there is nothing on the wall,
and you never use a paint primer combo with Bear drywall, okay,
because it is not designed to go on without any
primer code it all. Even though it makes that claim,
A paint primer combo is basically just there so that
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you can put a coat on an existing layer of
decently applied paint and change the color or neutralize it
or whatever. Does that make sense?
Speaker 3 (04:15):
That makes sense?
Speaker 1 (04:17):
All right?
Speaker 3 (04:18):
Can how manything else usually recommend? Do you recommend using
two coats or it just depends on if you're going
from you know, a dark color to light color?
Speaker 1 (04:27):
Yeah, I mean, you know, I mean, if you're going
from a heavy dark colored to two coats, definitely, I
always recommend two coats because it's just nice. But if
you can get it done with one, if you're if
you're changing like, for instance, a light tan wall, I
mean just really light like sandy beige, wall to white.
Then one coat of a good quality of paint on
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top of that should get the job done. You know,
you'll know, you'll know, that's the point. You'll know. You'll
know after you put that first coat on, you let
it dry, and you walk in, you're like, you know what,
it looks fine. And if it looks fine, it is fine.
That's the point, right, That's kind of where we were
talking about already. Color. It's in our heads. And if
your eyeball is interpreting the color in the room after
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you put a single coat of white on top of
a lighter color that, yeah, this room is white now,
then you know what You're good to go.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
Perfect.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Okay, I have one more quick question. Do we have
time or can I should I call that?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (05:24):
Yeah, now let's do it. Let's do it, let's go.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
I have on the outside of the house, I have
a cement and board and it's a white house, pretty
bright white. And I've noticed we bought the house a
few years ago, that there's starting to be little cracks
in the cement board I think it's called cement board.
And we had the painter come out and try to
fill in the cracks and they seem to be coming back.
Is there any sort of filler that sort of stretches
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that you'd recommend for that? And again it's it's like
a white surface.
Speaker 1 (05:52):
Okay, so is it smooth cement board on the outside
of the house, large sheets? Are we talking about cementious sighting?
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Large sheets? Yeah, the cement sides, board siding. It's like
the hardy board or I don't know what you'd call them.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, best thing you can do for
uh now, No, they filled it and it looked good
and then it cracked again.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, in about six months. We live a couple of
miles from the beach, so it's not too you know,
it doesn't get too hot here, so we don't live
off the beach a couple of miles.
Speaker 1 (06:21):
So you know, these are like spidery cracks, very thin cracks.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
They start like that, they get a little bit wider,
definitely wider than spidery Okay, all right, well, probably the
thing that stretches or something.
Speaker 1 (06:38):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean the mistake is that that
and this has always been a tough thing because you know,
you approach a crack in a wall for paint purposes,
either from a spacklepective perspective right, spackling in the crack
or from a culking perspective, and there's a there's a
short side to both of them. Spackle is a nice
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solid filler and you can smooth it out and then
it doesn't recede back when it dries, and so it
gives you that smooth, continuous, can't see the crack anymore
kind of scenario. But it is brittle, and so if
the crack shifts a little bit more, then the crack returns, okay.
Calking is the opposite. Caulking is stretchy, okay, But when
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calking dries, it actually recedes a little bit, and so
it has a tendency to show where it was. You're
like jeanez, I thought I filled that thing, and now
I can still see where the crack was. But as
it stretches, it actually bridges the gap, and the crack
itself doesn't tend to come back, but you can see
the indentation. Fortunately. Now there are some bridging products, and
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you've got to find this at a good paint store,
but there are some bridging products that are kind of
spackley with elast americ compounds in them. That'll get both
jobs done. They're not super you can find them at
better dedicated paint stores, not so much out on the
on the shelf at the big box store, but they exist.
Speaker 3 (08:08):
What is it called a It's like a lastomeric bridging.
Is that exactly what I have them to look for?
Speaker 1 (08:14):
Yeah, that's that's what you want to ask for. Yeah,
there are different brands you want to ask them. You
get explained. I got cement board. I got it. I
needed to be filled, but I also needed to stretch
when I'm done, and uh, and they'll get you in
the right direction. And then you may want to paint
with an elastomeric based paint on top of that, so
the paint itself has a stretching crack bridging to you know,
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capacity if the crack wants to return. So there's kind
of a you know, a double layer of protection that
you could approach that with as you go. Rick, Thanks
for the questions, Bud, and for the call. I hope
that helps uh and get you going in the right direction.
Speaker 4 (08:53):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (08:53):
When we returned, we will go back to the phones.
Speaker 5 (08:57):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
We're talking color today and color theory and how you
get your arms around it and the practical wrestling of
color in your home so you get the colors that
you actually want. Well, we're going to return to that
conversation in just a bit, but it's second hour, which
means we're taking calls, and I want to go back
to the phones. I want to talk to Steve. Hey, Steve,
(09:25):
welcome home, Hello young man.
Speaker 4 (09:30):
Hello Mike. Yes, how you doing. I'm doing a great job.
You're doing a great job, and I would like to
ask you a question about possibly a plumber could help me.
But we had our bathroom redone, and then ever since then,
when we would turn the faucet on in the kitchen
(09:52):
and turn off quick, it makes a pounding noise like
pressure or something. So I don't know if we have
to dig into the wall again. We did tile everything
in there. We did the trick with the water heater,
but that didn't fix it. So what do you think?
Speaker 1 (10:08):
All right, Well, you are you have become a victim
of the water hammer effect. That's what you're water hammer
is common. It's not your plumber's fault. Nobody did anything wrong.
It is Yeah, No, what it is. You know, water
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rushes through pipes, it turns corners, and as it turns corners,
it causes what's like in the world of ships and
submarines and stuff, is called cavitation. Right as what you know,
it doesn't turn a corner as smoothly as we think
it does. Some of that energy gets kind of bundled
up and it creates different kind of pressures that happen
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as a result. So you never know. I mean, it's
just virtually impossible to know. We've plumbed entire you know,
eighteen thousand and square foot homes with seemingly miles and
miles of hot and cold water lines and never had
a single water hammer issue with any faucet, and then
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we've turn around and done very similar house and it's
all over the place. It really has to do with
when you think of your hot and cold running water system,
thinking of it as a gigantic flute, and sometimes it
makes noise and sometimes it doesn't, depending on the twists
and the turn. So here's the thing. It's not the
(11:33):
plumber's fault because there's just no way to anticipate it.
But fortunately the fix can be pretty dang simple. You
can find sitting on the shelf at the big box store,
at your local plumber supply store, a device called water
hammer Arrestor, And what it literally is is it's kind
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of like a three to four inch sort of copper
nipple device. Inside that tube is a spring and essentially
a shock absorber. It's a shock absorber, and a water
hammer Arrestor can be put in line by a plumber
somewhere up in the attic, but it can also they
have them that it can be installed literally underneath a
(12:17):
sink in the new bathroom. You can take off the
angle stop that's the valve that's there, and install the
water hammer arrest or first, and then put the angle
stop back on, and you know, just with wrenches, and
more often than not, one or two of these, one
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on the hot line, one on the cold line will
solve the problem. And if it doesn't completely solve it,
then you find another location under another sink and you
add a couple of more. They're inexpensive, they're easy to install,
and that cavitation that's happening in the line, just because
of the configuration of the lines, the shock of as
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will do their job. They'll absorb that shock instead of
letting it reverberate through the pipes all the way through
the house and cause that that uh that you hear
when uh let me get the door, get the door.
Oh there you go, my friend. That's uh, that's that's
the solve. And so it's it's good news. It's you know,
(13:23):
it's not great news, but it's a shout out.
Speaker 4 (13:27):
And they give a shout out to uh, my favorite
restaurant and Moro Bay.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
Uh sure, why not.
Speaker 4 (13:34):
You've probably been there, but it's carlss for breakfast. Oh
my gosh, Oh yeah, you know what I'm talking about.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
Oh yeah, are you up in Moro Bed?
Speaker 4 (13:43):
No, I avoid that like the plague today because the
Mother's Day. But I'm sure they're very busy. And but
it's just a shout out because they might even be listening.
You never know. But that is the place to go
if you're in Moro Bay.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Carlis Maro Bay is the place to go. We were
up there a few months ago and spent a week
there in the Pomo overlooking more Obay and then just
enjoying the whole area.
Speaker 4 (14:06):
It is.
Speaker 1 (14:06):
It is delicious. It is a delicious place.
Speaker 4 (14:09):
Well, I've got good memories of my parents going there.
I've got good memories from my honeymoon and many many
meals there, and this sunsets and just beautiful. So all right,
thank you, mister Dean. You're doing a great job, and
keep up the good work.
Speaker 1 (14:26):
Thank you, sir, Thanks Steve, thanks for the question, Thanks
for the vote of confidence. Always love it when when
people are appreciated. Not everybody is always appreciative, by the way,
so that's just the nature of things. Let me tell
you about an email that we got yesterday. On that note, Tina,
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you want to wait here, turn your mica, and I'm
the one who reads those, Yes you are. We can't
actually use the like I'll even tell you what it said.
But the worst it was quite irate about because I
had mentioned, Yeah, somebody called yesterday and wanted to know,
is there a way to keep rattlesnakes out of our
three acre property? And I described snake fencing, and I
(15:10):
described some snake repellent that is actually very effective, non toxic,
not going to kill any snakes. But I did mention
that I was familiar with the problem because as a
youth living in a big open space, we often had
rattlesnakes come in way too close to the house. And
(15:31):
at the time, my father had given me instructions that
you know, if you go outside, you're in charge of this, dean,
because your mother is not physically able to do this
because she was sickly. But my father would say, you're
in charge of this, and so you go outside if
there's a rattlesnake that has curled up in near the house,
on the patio or on the cool concrete, to dispatch
(15:54):
that snake. And I had mentioned to the caller that
I by the time I had reached young adulthood, I
had a large peanut butter jar, empty peanut butter jar
full of rattlesnake rattles from the rattlesnakes that I had
had to dispatch to. You know, I thought, keep my
family safe because they were getting into close and we
just lived in a big open area without fencing, and
(16:16):
so it was difficult to avoid. That's all I said.
And it's one thing, that's all I said. To not
agree with you, that's the kind I don't like killing animals.
But basically we just as a grown We got an
email yesterday essentially that said I was going to burn
in hell for killing wildlife. And so you know, I
appreciate when guys like Steve call up and say that
(16:39):
we're doing a good So that's just that's all. I
have nothing against rattlesnakes, by the way, except when they
try to bite me. Other than that, no problem whatsoever.
I love animals. Olivia is here. She will tell you
Papa loves animals. Okay, there you go, tell him, tell
(16:59):
them Olivia, he loves animals. And also my dog is
right here. Not okay, so there you go. See all right,
all right, sit down, you be quiet. Now, we're gonna
get you your own show when we return more of
your calls. I just wanted to share that with you.
It's not a big deal. I'm just saying, hopefully I
(17:22):
don't burn in hill because of my rattlesnake jar uh.
When we return more of your calls. Your Home with
Dean Sharp the House Whisper.
Speaker 5 (17:31):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
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Speaker 1 (17:38):
You are Home with Dean Sharp, the house Whisper, here
to take your ordinary house and help you make it
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six to eight Pacific time, Sunday mornings, nine to noon
Pacific time. We're talking color and color theory, and we're
gonna be just about we're just about ready to move
(18:01):
into the practical ads on how do you get your
arms around color problems. But we're still right here middle
hour taking some calls and honoring you and everything that's
going on with your home today. So I want to
go back to the phones and I want to talk
to Joe. Hey, Joe, welcome home.
Speaker 3 (18:21):
Oh, good morning, Dean. First, I'll say thank goodness. We're
past the color stage of our renovation project.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
Really, we have rested with that as well.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
Oh, we certainly did. We finally hired a designer to
help us with it, and it came out just fine.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
We are.
Speaker 3 (18:41):
We have a stove that's on a stovetop that's on
an island, and we've lived there for twenty years without
a hood. But we're moving out and converting it to
a rental unit now, so we need to put in
a stovehood. I understand many of the ones I've looked
at say that they're can vertible, and I'm understanding that
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to mean that either you can put a duct from
the unit up through the attic and the roof, or
alternatively by two carbon filters for twenty five bucks apiece
and not have to duct it. And I'm wondering, am
I understanding that correctly or not? And what is your
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recommendation concerning this?
Speaker 1 (19:28):
Okay, really, really good question. It's a confusing whirl of
vent hoods. By the way, let me ask you first
and foremost, the stovetop itself, the stove gas electric. What
do you got going there?
Speaker 4 (19:43):
Gas?
Speaker 3 (19:43):
Thirty six inch gas?
Speaker 1 (19:45):
Okay, So let me explain this real quickly, just because
people are confused by it, and rightly so, because it
is a confusing area of the code. Okay, technically speaking,
the Internet Building Code has no concern whatsoever how much
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fish smell or smoke from searing your steak fills up
your kitchen great or your home. Okay, the technically technically,
if you have an electric cook top, then there is
no code requirement for a hood at all, because the
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hood idea was was added to the code as a
way of exhausting uncombusted gas fumes out of the house
as a safety issue, uncombusted fumes and particulates from a
gas burner, because no gas burner combusts all the gas
(20:47):
that is coming out of the burner, there's always some
you know, leftover, So that would that would lead us
to the conclusion then that Okay, if that's the case,
then why is isn't it also a code requirement that
every time I turn on my gas burner, the hood
vent has to turn on automatically to evacuate those gas particulars.
(21:12):
But that's not a part of the code. You can
install one of these things and never turn it on
for your entire life, and uh, it's perfectly okay with
the code. It's a gigantic, gaping hole in the way
that the building code handles, you know, this particular issue.
So I just want to explain that to everybody. If
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you have an electric cook top, an induction cooktop, or
an electric cook top stand, you know, a conventional electric
cook top, technically you don't need a vent hood. If
you have a gas burner, technically you do need one,
and you never have to use it. Most people, though,
are most concerned about, all right, well, when I when
I you know, see a steak, or if I accidentally
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burn something, or if I'm cooking fish or something like that,
I want to get rid of the odors, and I
want to get rid of the excess smoke and or
steam or whatever is coming off the cook top. That
is what most people are thinking about when they think
about vent hoods, and there are two ways to go
about it. You conduct it, meaning that the hood leads in,
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brings all that to smoke in and directs it with
a fan through a ducting system and blows it to
the outside of the house. It doesn't have to go
straight up. It can go sideways once it's in the attic.
It can go through ceiling joists or floor joists or
whatever the case may be, as long as it gets
to the outside of the house and the fan is
powerful enough to push it along and there you go.
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The other option is often found in apartments and things
like that, are hoods that can also utilize a two
stage charcoal filter and draw the air up through the
charcoal filter. The charcoal filter, in theory, catches most of
the particles from the smoke and are a lot of
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the odors from the cooking, and then that air is
blown back into the kitchen space, which again is ironic
when you think about the fact that if that hood
is venting a gas you know cook top, then that
gas those the charcoal filter does not capture the gas
let off, and it blows it back into the kitchen space,
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the same space that it started in. And yet the
code allows that to So just a little bit of
confusing part for the code, but yes, you are correct.
Either ducked less, which is running through standard charcoal filters,
or duck did out of the house, which is better. Well,
ducked it out of the house is always going to
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be better. I mean you don't find many ducked less
hoods in you know, professional kitchens, in executive kitchens, or
in restaurants. In fact, they're not allowed in an executive
kitchen to recirculate the air back into the kitchen environment.
They have to take it out and has to be
blown outside. So yeah, that's better, But both are allowed.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
And then did you say it could be inducted into
the I mean not ducted, but into the attic and
out the vents or up through the roof.
Speaker 1 (24:21):
Either it can be taken out through the roof. It
can be taken out through the side gable of a
roofing system. We can't just run it up to we
can't just run an open ducked up to an outside
vent and just sort of allow it to sort of
push its way out there. It needs a positive connection
to the outside of the house, but it doesn't have
to go through the roof. It could go through it
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could run horizontally and go through a vent attachment on
the outside of a house or on the outside of
a gable.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Oh, I see what you're saying. Okay, Well, that answers
my questions. I certainly appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (24:54):
And Joe, if you want to take a look just
for fun, if you want to take a look at
literally what the cutting a edge of duct less hoods are,
then go to Plasma Plasma, Maade, dot Com Plasma. I'm sorry,
Plasma made USA, dot com Plasma. They're the company Tina
(25:15):
and I saw at the last builder show. They have
They have created a series of electronically high voltagely charged
filters that create a plasma field that literally does eliminate
all smoke, odor, and micron particulates out of the air
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and then restores clean air into the room without using
a duck. Now, the filters themselves cost I don't know,
eleven twelve hundred dollars, but their filters are designed this
is the cool thing to be used with any vent
hood so they don't make vent hoods. They simply make
this filter which installs in what looks like a duck
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leaving the room, but could literally just be a pipe
or a flu that goes up to the ceiling and
goes no further. It's pretty impressive, so you guys should
you should check that out as well. It's plasmamade usa
dot com if you want to see what is currently
the cutting edge of efficient recirculated nonducted vent hoods. Pretty
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impressive stuff, but yeah, it either has to go out
or recirculate through some kind of filter.
Speaker 5 (26:31):
You're listening to Home with Dean Sharp on demand from
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Speaker 2 (26:39):
Oh.
Speaker 1 (26:39):
By the way, if if you enjoyed Tim as much
as I do, just know that on Thursday evenings, every
Thursday evening just about just about unless for some reason
I can't get there, But every Thursday evening I hang
out with him from about six twenty till about six fifty.
We come on and we just talk about all things home.
I give him notes ahead time about what we're talking about,
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and then we flip a coin as to whether we
actually get to that topic or not, or we just
wander off and talk about something else. But it's always great.
It's always great. We always have a great time every
Thursday evening. Tim Conway Junior and the House Whisper at
six point twenty right here on Kofi. All right, y'all,
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we're talking color today. We're about to return to that subject,
but I want to finish up calls for the day,
which means I want to talk to Rick. Hey, Rick,
welcome home.
Speaker 2 (27:33):
Hey, Good morning, Dean. My question is in regards to
the exterior window trims and doors and the big garage door. Recently,
my wife wanted to redo the wood trims because they
got damage and rotted and all that good stuff. So
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she went ahead, and she was thinking out of the box,
and she decided to do the the bender board that
you find in the garden areas of the big box stores,
and that trimmed out and mounted around the windows and
doors and such. And it looks great, and it looks
like it's going to hold up a lot longer than
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the wood. However, the issue that I'm having is I
put some of that Zenzer primer on there and then
put some paint. I started with several windows, and once
it cured in all this just bumping into it or
if you just like scratch it with your nail or whatnot,
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it's literally just like flaking off, and it's showing the
brown bender board, so obviously it's not adhering to it.
And also the primer wasn't thick enough apparently to cover
up the small little screw holes which they use to
mount up. And there's little like beings and scratches and
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stuff like that, little imperfections on that plast bender board.
So I was wondering what you suggest that would adhere
to that bender board so that way when the paint
goes on, it sticks and it holds up. Because I
got about thirty to forty windows and doors to do
on the exterior, and I would really like for it
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to last.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
I got you, I got you, all right, Well, all right,
I'm going to give you some advice. It's going to
be qualified advice. Qualified because and here's the thing. When
we say plastic composite, plastic composite sounds like a very
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technical term, and it is, but in reality, it's a
generalist term that means I don't know whatever that stuff's
made out of. So yeah, since I don't know what
that stuff is made out of, I really don't. I honestly,
you know, if someone is with to call in with
(30:03):
a gardening question and say, you know that brown bender
board that we put around our you know what is
that stuff made out? I don't know, recycled trash bags,
coke bottles. I'm not sure. I actually don't know what
that stuff is made out of. And it makes a
difference ultimately because plastic is a super super scientifically generalist term.
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In fact, sometimes plastic doesn't even mean a chemical compound plastic.
It just means that something's bendable or that's moldable. Right,
we talk about the plasticity of the human brain. Our
brains aren't made out of plastic, but they are bendable.
So I'm not sure, Rick, but I will tell you this.
Typically plastic composite window trims that we work with in
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for industry windows stuff, it is always one hundred percent
acrylic latex exterior paint. Hundred percent acrylic latex exterior paint,
and not a generalist primer, okay, but a specific primer.
So the idea is to work backwards. The idea is
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to find a high quality like Benjamin Moore exterior acrylic
latex paint, and then walk backwards and say, all right,
this is the paint we're going to try, which is
the primer that is specifically designed to grab onto this
paint and the surface beneath it, and then you work
from there. I never find, actually, and this may encourage you,
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I've never found that just the generalists like Kills or
the Zins primers do a great job on plastic based
materials outside. So what I want is I want to
go straight to the paint company, deal with them, and
they do nowadays make some extraordinary stuff. In fact, I
would probably lean towards either Sherwin Williams are Benjamin Moore
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as far as their vinyl specialty paints. They both make
a vinyl safe specialty paint. And this is another thing
I didn't ask you how dark these trims are, whether
they're white or whether they're a different color. But for
anybody who's thinking about painting plastic composite trims on the
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outside of their house, or painting their vinyl windows or
the edges of their vinyl windows with a dark color,
you gotta be really careful about that because dark colors absorb.
Now we've gone back to color. Dark colors absorb light
and therefore they absorb heat. You know, It's like most
of us don't wear black t shirts out on one
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hundred degree day because it absorbs so much light and heat,
and then it can actually weaken and soften the vinyl
or the plastic of the trim. So there are companies
like Sherwyn Williams and Benjamin Moore. I love Benjamin Moore's product.
It does amazing stuff. It is a special for vinyl
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that actually has built into it solar reflective coating properties
that reflect out a lot of that stuff and keep
the vinyl or the plastic from warping or buckling. So
the best, and it's fully qualified because I do not
know what that stuff is actually made out of, and
in the end it's science as to what binds to what.
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But I would recommend that you go with a high
quality paint like Benjamin Moore, go with their Vinyl series
exterior stuff, and then go with the primer that Benjamin
Moore mates to that paint to put it onto the trim.
And as far as the holes are concerned, bondo not spackle,
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not caulking to fill the holes. Bondo, the epoxy based
the mix, the catalyst and the putty together, smooth it over,
leave it high, and then give it a little sanding
once it dries in all of five to ten minutes.
Give it a little sane to sand it smooth Bondo. Yes,
like the automotive autobody Bondo stuff. That is the gold
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standard when it comes to exterior durable hole and crack patching.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
How's that rick, Yeah, that sounds a pretty good, Dean,
and it is the dark benderboard unfortunately, so it does
attract the UV's and all that fun stuff. And yeah,
that gives us a good start there. I was even
thinking since you mentioned that bondo, would it be like
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putting a thin coat of the bondo across because it's
about three inches wide, and then having the primer adhere
to that a little bit better? Or just go right
into the primer you're saying, and then go with the paint.
Speaker 1 (34:51):
You know, you know what, that's a really creative idea
and I'm not against it. I'm not against that idea
at all, but it may not be necessary. Here's what
I recommend. I know, I can tell you for a
fact that that that those high quality paints will will
bond to the bondo. Absolutely, it's a given. Bondo is
made in part for that kind of adhesion of paint.
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That's why they use it on autobody stuff. But here's
what I would do. I would go to your local
Benjamin More retailer, Adelina Paints or whatever is nearby in
your area. Take a section, take a go, get a
piece of that of that venderboard stuff, take it into
them and say, here's my problem. All my windows are
trimmed with this stuff. What's going to stick to it?
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And the thing that you get, the thing that you
get at a professional paint store like a Benjamin More retailer,
is you get real paint professionals behind the counter, not
the person who was trained. You know, like I said
earlier in the show, you know, I got nothing against
people who work at Forever twenty one, but not when
i'm you know, they were working there last month and
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now they've got about six hours of training on the
color mixing machine and that's it. They don't know how
to paint a house. And so that's why I send
you to a pro paint store because you're going to
get that advice and you're gonna have you know, you
get the old guy out of the back who's like
looking at and like, you know, this looks like and
they're going to figure out how to get paint to
adhere to that. I promise you. So I know I'm
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pointing you in the right direction. I just don't want
to absolutely tell you oh for sure, it's it's a
grillic one hundred percent and no problem. Take that sample in,
let them look at it, have a conversation with them.
I think they're going to point you in the same
direction as well, and then take it from there. Rick,
Thanks for the call, buddy, really really good call. This
is why we take calls, because we end up with
such interesting questions and answers that help everybody along the way.
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All right, here's the deal. When we come back, we're
diving back into the world of color, and I'm going
to give you the solutions that you are looking for,
the ways to get your arms around color in your home.
You're listening to Dean Sharp, the House Whisperer on KFI.
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