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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI A six on demand. Okay.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
You look around, whether you're in the car, whether you're
out and about during the day, whatever it is that
you're doing at work, it seems there is an intense
amount of anger out there. It's not just with others.
You're dealing with it as well. You battle with this
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all the time. Anger is something that permeates every part
of your life in one form or another. And in
Scripture there's two Greek words and in the New Testament
that are used as the English word anger. One focuses
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on a means passion and energy, and the other means
agitated and boiling. And what I don't want you to
walk away with today is that all anger is bad.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It's not. Obviously.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
When you have passion and energy and it provokes you
and promotes and instigates you to want to do something good,
then that's positive. But if you sit and you become agitated,
and you sit there boiling with the anger, it's of
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no glory to God. It produces nothing, and it's something
that continues to sit and fester. It's easy when you
deal with people when you're in that mental.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
State where everything you've got.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Is important, and everything everyone else has to do or
is a part of, is not important. That's selfish is
what breeds a lot of the negative or unpositive or
sinful anger, because that kind of pride and attitude, that
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selfishness that says, well, I'm more important, I have things
to do. This person's in my way. That's what happens
on the road. The reason why you have a road
rage is because in your head, you're more important than
the people around you, and so if someone cuts you off,
the first thought is, well, don't they know who I am?
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I've got places to be, I've got things to do,
or they think they're more important than me. It seems
silly but true. I mean, how many times have you
been on the road and you feel someone to the.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Side of you.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Maybe you're on the highways the byways and there's someone
coming up next to you and they're going a little faster.
You don't want them to pass you, and you speed
up for no real reason except some sort of false competitiveness.
But it's not just on the road, it's in every
part of your life. There are things that trigger your anger,
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that frustrates you and that aren't productive. They just agitate.
They just make you.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Get in a mindset.
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Where you don't want to deal with anybody except out
of anger when you're someone asks you a question. And
I see this of people that are in a business
where they're called to answer questions, whether they work at
a grocery store, whether they work at a hardware store,
whatever it might be, and they're there to answer questions,
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and still when you ask a question, they respond negatively,
and then it's just pills on, piles on, and continues
to spin out of control as everyone gets angry. Proverbs
fifteen to one says a gentle answer turns away wrath,
but a harsh word stirs up anger. That there's ways
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to respond to people even if you're not happy about
the question, even if you think it's a stupid question,
there's still ways to answer to not accelerate or make
things worse, because you play a part in other people's
anger as well. And if you stir that up and
their anger becomes that which is classified as sin, then
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you play a part of that as well. And you
don't want to get caught up in those types of
personal prideful arguments two Timothy two, twenty three and twenty four.
Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments,
because you know they produce quarrels. And the lord's servant
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must not quarrel. Instead, he must be kind to everyone,
able to teach, not resentful. What a pattern to follow there,
don't stir up an argument for the sake of stirring
up an argument. You may even do this in my name,
sometimes supposedly for my sake. You may stir up an
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argument thinking that you're helping, when actually you're hurting it.
It doesn't mean that there isn't a legitimate place for
an argument or a discussion, even one that's filled with passion.
But be careful the words you use and how you
participate in a discussion that you're moving it forward, not
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escalating it hotter, bringing it to a boil, because you
don't want to get caught up in a quarrel for
the sake of a quarrel. You do want to be
kind to everyone. Find it interesting that if you read this,
it says be kind to everyone comma able to teach,
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comma not resentful. So by being kind to people you're
able to teach, you're in that you have that ability
to pass along information. If you're in a state where
you're just in anger, then you're pushing against everything you
don't want to receive. You're not in the state of receiving.
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You just want people to feel your wrath. You don't
hear a thing they're saying. Your compassion is gone, and
it's just that agitated, boiling anger. Now that the God
given anger, this righteous indignation, is productive. It's there to
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help you deal with the things at hand, problem solving,
troubleshooting something. It propels you, it pushes you, It excites
you with passion and energy, but doesn't make you sit
and fester. And there's examples throughout Scripture of people confronting
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one another that are upset, that are filled with this
energy and this passion, but not that ugly, agitated, festering,
boiling anger. Not all anger is a sin. It's when
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it gets to that place that it becomes rage. It
gets to that place where there's nothing propelling you forward, learning, teaching, experiencing.
It's just about venting full throttle anger, rage, not listening,
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and that has no place in the kingdom. That serves
no purpose and helps no one, you included. And when
you get in that state of anger, you get blind
to truth and it's just about you. Check that next time,
next time you're angry. See how it's so much about
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you and no one else. How it's all about how
you feel and what you're going through, or what you
need or what you want it or whatever it is,
And yet you push aside everyone else around you. Anger
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seems to be a lot of anger. And it's not
that all anger is bad or that all anger is sin.
As you know, sin means to miss the mark, and
there is anger that misses the mark. There's anger that
is caught up in just being angry, just being annoyed,
just being agitated, rather than something that propels you, that
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moves you forward, that makes you want to solve problems.
And the key to anger is you will notice that
anger really becomes sin when it's focused just on you,
When it's selfish in nature and the purpose, the goal
is completely shifted and no longer in focus, and it's
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just about the anger. So if you think of it
this way, that your anger should attack a problem, not
a person. If your anger attacks a problem, not a person,
then it's then you're looking to solve something. Then you're
looking to eradicate a problem, but not just attack a person.
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And in scripture, and this happens so much, we've this
kind has come up on the show over and over again,
that there are times where you don't go to a
person and you feel that they've wronged you or something's happened.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You don't go to them to talk to them.
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You don't confront them face to face, which is the
biblical way. You look for, you know, some reason, just
to smear their name or to be ugly. That doesn't
it doesn't help. Galatians two eleven through fourteen deals with
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this very thing. When you're opposing someone, you oppose them
to their face. If you feel someone's in the wrong,
then you express that to them in a way that
is helpful and propels you forward. But the anger that
I see right now, the anger that maybe you're experiencing yourself,
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whether you be the recipient of it or you'd be
the person sending it out, is that it's only focused
on the individual. It's only about you and what you
need to do. Don't they know I need to do X,
Y and Z. Don't they know that I have to
do this or that I'm this? And usually that type
of anger stems from people in general not listening.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
If you're not.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Attentive, if someone yells at you, in all likelihood, they
don't feel they're being heard. They feel that something you're
doing is hurting them or might hurt them, or is
going to hurt them, and that makes them nervous or scared,
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and it manifests in screaming and anger. Some of the
most angry people in life are the most meek, are
the ones that are so fearful of someone hurting them
that they get loud. And maybe you do this, You
get loud in hopes of people either backing off or
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running away or not coming too close to hurt you anymore.
That type of anger doesn't help. So to biblically deal
with anger, you have to first focus and see and
admit that your anger comes from a selfish place and
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learn to turn that around to where you are attacking
that problem and not attacking a person. Aurora, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Today is a very special day for my son. He's
gonna take Body of Christ for the first time.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh wonderful.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yes, he's extremely excited. He has been asking for it,
and uh, I gotta tell you it's a special need kid.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Okay, And how so he's autistic?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
He is, he actually has celebra policy and the brain damage.
But contrail hold, the prediction is a very He's able
to walk, and you know, it's very good in school.
And he's a very happy child, extremely happy and very emotional.
So we go to church every Sunday and during communion
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he is always always cry. You get emotional. I said,
it is happy and uh so we talk with a priest.
We got some preparation and today is a day and
he has great expectition.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Okay, how so what are his expectations?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well, and that's what I will try to understand. And
you say that it's gonna take the body of Christ
today and then it's going to feel better.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Oh so he thinks that it's going to be there's
going to be healing properties too.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I don't know. I'm afraid that he has some expectation
about that, you know, spiritual part of it. And then
maybe it's me. I'm not understanding him correctly, but I'm
afraid that he's suspecting something. And if so, I don't
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know what to say after you know, what to tell
them because we talk every day about it and what
I told him, I say, yes, you're going to be
feeling good inside. You're gonna be feeling great inside. You're
going to be feeling in all love and and you know,
and I just you know, because it's working very hard
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on correctness. Is problem, is physical problem, and it's learning
out with it. So many surgery and finally he's walking,
you know, with his feet on the ground, no more
on his toes and you know, so it's working very
hard in order to walk to the altar, because you
want to walk to the altar and I want to
be on the wheelchair and he want to be, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
So he sounds wonderful because his spirit has desired to
me better good And that's a good way to see
it as well as the gift of having a special
needs child is first knowing that God trusts you enough
to oversee and care for somebody, so special is a
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pretty amazing thing.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Now, is he's seven or eight years old?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Oh, it's actually ten, so he's longer.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So he's he's older for the process.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
So he's he's going to be taking in some of
this information a little differently as well as he's a
little bit older.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Was there a purpose for waiting.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Was his special needs a part of that decision?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Well, honest, to do, it was more me than himla.
I was afraid that he was not going to understand.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Okay, Well, it's a tough thing to understand at at
any age. I mean, there's there's a lot of adults,
I would say most adults that don't understand truly what's
going on. And even in the Church, you have differences
between Catholics and Protestants.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You know, Catholics and Lutherans celebrate this particular ce ceremony
and look at and and truly believe that Christ that
I Am present truly in the Eucharist now, although they
see things slightly differently in there, whereas Protestant a lot
of other Protestant denominations believe that it's a practice to
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be adhered to because I said so that it was
something to do.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And memorial and in memory of and.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
So there's different views in this as it stands across
the board, which makes it difficult for.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Even adults to comprehend.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I would say that managed expectations is a good term
for you to know in this case, and that is
it's not about being a wet blanket or showering any
hopes with so much reality that they because the balance
between understanding God and how God moves in this world
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and that the trials in life and as they happen
is a difficult one for adults as well, let alone
a child. So the balance here is to say, is
to really make sure that he explains what's going on,
and during the before the first communion, there's time with
the priest. Correct, yeah, okay, and the priest has explained
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and he's gone to Catechism and all of those things
to understand. So there's going to be some knowledge that
comes prior to this, but also to be reinforced by you,
the understanding that it's not magic. It's not about magic,
and it's not about that it's like a it's not
medicine like that.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
It's not going to fix it, no it.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And it's not that that God doesn't have the power
to fix things or to fix what we think is broken,
because oftentimes God says it's not broken. You think it's
broken because you want it to do X, Y and Z,
and you know, honest.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
With you, it is probably maybe more my inspectition.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That's that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So you say that that that you are putting the weight,
the false expectation on this.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Uh No, it's I've been, you know, waiting for the
magic day. You know that one day you wake up
and everything is gone, you know, and maybe maybe it's me.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, you know what the magic day is. The magic
day is understanding that this, that this is life, and
that God is in uh perfection and imperfection by way
of healing. Now it doesn't mean a full physical healing.
That means spiritual healing for most. If you remember, Paul
even had the thorn in the flesh what's referred to
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as a thorn in the flesh in scripture, and he
asked three times to have it removed, and three times
God said no. And yet Paul had to see the
blessing in that understanding that those those privations or the
lack of something that everyone else seemed to have really
made Paul who he was. And that's part of the process.
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And so the managing of expectations for both you and
I love that you're being honest, both you and your boy,
is to understand what's going on. One the first and
foremost the reason why you take communion is because I said,
so in scripture. That's first and foremost, because God said it,
it's in scripture.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Therefore you do it. That the obedience is important.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And secondly, to understand there is something very beautiful despite
all the disagreement that goes on in the different denominations
as to what's going on, and if it actually becomes
the blood and the body and all of these things,
those are inter body discussions. That the Body of Christ
discusses those things and argues those things, and that's fine.
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But most importantly is that it was you're told to
do it, and that it is in remembrance, and that
it does have power. There is something quite beautiful and
connective towards that moment. I was constantly breaking bread and
connecting with people, and this is one of those moments
that cannot be denied.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And you don't know what will take place.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Neither of you, regardless of expectations, know what will take place.
But most importantly, what is guaranteed to take place is
the fulfillment of a commitment towards God. And that is
going to take place. So whether you know anything else
is going to or not going to, that, the fulfillment
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of a commitment towards God.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
That's what's exciting that that he is.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Stepping forward, he is wheeling forward, he is limping forward,
doesn't matter. He is moving forward before God and man
in his commitment towards God.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
You know, you look at his face and he laid
up when you're going to church. If he has and
had that's our priests say, you have thisess in him,
and you know he feels that, and he has a
totally different emotion, and you know, and he has his
own reason and he has his own belief and maybe
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it's different. It's different for me as an adult than him. Uh,
you know, with the way we expressed. But I know
that I appreciate that, I appreciate about the Christ, and
I get closer to you after I got my son.
He's making me better and you know, and all this
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emotion that he's having, him having it with him, and
it's an amazing feeling. It's amazing. It's I don't know,
I don't know how to explain that. You know, somebody
told me why you go to church every Sunday? That
church doesn't do anything for me. And and the best
way that I was able to express, I say, I
feel like I'm home. I had this big warm huk again.
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You know, around me this, I feel like I'm home.
That's my best feeling. And I believe markets feel the
same way. I'm not sure, but they love that. And
he's happy, and you know, and and now you know
it's gonna have his body of Christ today and yesterday
was telling me, Mommy, then I'm gonna have every Sunday
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and every Sunday I can have my body of Christ.
You know, it's it's beautiful. And you know how many
other people are so skeptical about that and how they
are no understanding.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh, they're skepticism in all things, Aurora, and the church
has been a focus of that. I've been a focus
of that for a long time. But I want you
to really deeply enjoy today and take it in for
all the ceremony and love and fun of it, as
well as the deep spiritual meaning that goes along with it.
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And sharing that with your boy and experiencing that is
going to be a very powerful thing. Keep in mind,
keep in mind that that faith and understanding and a
relationship with God. Is it not about being perfect in
this world. It's about understanding and conquering imperfection with the
understanding of who God is and that there is it's
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not only about this world, but about the world to come.
But have the most blessed day, and I hope that
you'll share with us. How today went on a future broadcast,
Brian to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Good morning, Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
My pleasure.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I was discussing with a new friend. She is a
Christian and I am a believer as well, and I
was mentioning that the church that I'm going to is
planning on starting a contemporary style worship service. And she said,
do you have a piano in your church? And I said, well, sure,
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I said, we have a couple. We have one upstairs
and we have one downstairs. And she said, uh, she says,
we don't have any instruments in our church. I said, oh,
that's kind of curious. Do you mind if I asked why?
And she said.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
She said that the New Testament church or the New
the New dispensation is that you know, no instruments in church.
And I said, but there's lots of references where instruments
were used to assist in praising God. When David brought
the arc into the Temple of meeting and you know, oh.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Sure, there's musicians and Bryan.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
There are times in scripture where priests and musicians are referenced,
but only the musicians are referenced by name. There's there's
great importance to music, make a joyful noise. There are
many references to the importance of music and h and
even dancing at times as well.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Ultimately that it came down to the term dispensation. I
don't know what that.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Is, Okay, the term dispensation. Think of it this way,
because there's this gets into different theological understandings of dispensationalism.
But I want you to think of it this way
for the sake of your call. I think this will
be helpful. Think of it as time periods, management of
time periods, and how God manages those time periods, those
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different dispensations. So think of it this way as and
I prefer people to think of it this way anyways.
But if you go through scripture, think of scripture in
humanity as a child that's being born and being raised
by God. Not just individual men and women, but think
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of all men and women, the planet as a whole,
as a child being raised by God. So if you
look at the beginning and the middle and the ending
of scripture. You will see that God interacts with the
world a little differently. And people say, you know, what,
how come the God of the Old Testament seems so angry?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
You know?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And then you know, and how come the God of
the New Testament seems so flowery? And they try putting
these things together. Well, a dispensation is sectioning of scripture
or time periods and the way God interacts interacted. So,
for instance, if you look at the Old Testament, it
does seem like God is angry all the time, but
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that's not true.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Really.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
What it is is, if you think of the world
as a baby, you may interact with a child an
infant differently. They're crying, they're needy. You might even pat
the bottom of a child, but you wouldn't of an
eighteen year old.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It wouldn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So as they grow, you interact with your children differently. Correct, Okay,
So dispensationalism, in a very loose sense is how God
is interacting with humanity during different times and periods throughout history,
not only scripturally but now currently. So, which is a
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wonderful way to look at scripture and to understand scripture.
The problem comes when people use this as a way
of defining God or defining Christianity or Salvation based on
these time periods. Some people separate the scriptures and do
about seven different dispensations or different times or periods where
God is interacting with his creation. But what I want
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you to see is that none of those define God
or Salvation or man correctly. You have to see them
in their totality to understand what's going on. And sometimes
people get lost in certain That's why you'll hear people say, oh,
that's not for today, right, Oh, that's the Old Testament.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That's not for that.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
No, that's ridiculous. God put it in there. It's there
for today, and it's important. And that's like removing the
grace out of the Old Testament or removing the law
out of the New Testament. They both have a place
and a purpose in both of those chapters of the
Christian faith by way of Judaism. So you get lost
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if you say, well, it's not for today, which is
essentially what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Now do they use microphones at all?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Y Oh you know, I didn't. I've heard you say
that on the show before. I did not ask that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I'm always humored by that that that uh that uh
using that it's not an instrument or what happen. Usually
when you get to that point, the church has some unhealthy, uh,
some unhealthy parts to it. Now, I don't know this church,
and I don't know how they're using this term, and
it's coming to me secondhand. But I will tell you this, Brian,
that if that's a that's a bad sign to me
about the health of a particular church.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
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You look around, whether you're in the car, whether you're
out and about during the day, whatever it is that
you're doing at work, it seems there is an intense
amount of anger out there. It's not just with others.
You're dealing with it as well. You battle with this
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all the time. Anger is something that permeates every part
of your life in one form or another. And in
Scripture there's two Greek words and in the New Testament
that are used as the English word anger. One focuses
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on a means passion and energy, and the other means
agitated and boiling. And what I don't want you to
walk away with today is that all anger is bad.
Speaker 1 (01:07):
It's not. Obviously.
Speaker 2 (01:11):
When you have passion and energy and it provokes you
and promotes and instigates you to want to do something good,
then that's positive. But if you sit and you become agitated,
and you sit there boiling with the anger, it's of
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no glory to God. It produces nothing, and it's something
that continues to sit and fester. It's easy when you
deal with people when you're in that mental.
Speaker 1 (01:49):
State where everything you've got.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Is important, and everything everyone else has to do or
is a part of, is not important. That's selfish is
what breeds a lot of the negative or unpositive or
sinful anger, because that kind of pride and attitude, that
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selfishness that says, well, I'm more important, I have things
to do. This person's in my way. That's what happens
on the road. The reason why you have a road
rage is because in your head, you're more important than
the people around you, and so if someone cuts you off,
the first thought is, well, don't they know who I am?
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I've got places to be, I've got things to do,
or they think they're more important than me. It seems
silly but true. I mean, how many times have you
been on the road and you feel someone to the.
Speaker 1 (02:49):
Side of you.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
Maybe you're on the highways the byways and there's someone
coming up next to you and they're going a little faster.
You don't want them to pass you, and you speed
up for no real reason except some sort of false competitiveness.
But it's not just on the road, it's in every
part of your life. There are things that trigger your anger,
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that frustrates you and that aren't productive. They just agitate.
They just make you.
Speaker 1 (03:22):
Get in a mindset.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Where you don't want to deal with anybody except out
of anger when you're someone asks you a question. And
I see this of people that are in a business
where they're called to answer questions, whether they work at
a grocery store, whether they work at a hardware store,
whatever it might be, and they're there to answer questions,
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and still when you ask a question, they respond negatively,
and then it's just pills on, piles on, and continues
to spin out of control as everyone gets angry. Proverbs
fifteen to one says a gentle answer turns away wrath,
but a harsh word stirs up anger. That there's ways
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to respond to people even if you're not happy about
the question, even if you think it's a stupid question,
there's still ways to answer to not accelerate or make
things worse, because you play a part in other people's
anger as well. And if you stir that up and
their anger becomes that which is classified as sin, then
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you play a part of that as well. And you
don't want to get caught up in those types of
personal prideful arguments two Timothy two, twenty three and twenty four.
Don't have anything to do with foolish and stupid arguments,
because you know they produce quarrels. And the lord's servant
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must not quarrel. Instead, he must be kind to everyone,
able to teach, not resentful. What a pattern to follow there,
don't stir up an argument for the sake of stirring
up an argument. You may even do this in my name,
sometimes supposedly for my sake. You may stir up an
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argument thinking that you're helping, when actually you're hurting it.
It doesn't mean that there isn't a legitimate place for
an argument or a discussion, even one that's filled with passion.
But be careful the words you use and how you
participate in a discussion that you're moving it forward, not
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escalating it hotter, bringing it to a boil, because you
don't want to get caught up in a quarrel for
the sake of a quarrel. You do want to be
kind to everyone. Find it interesting that if you read this,
it says be kind to everyone comma able to teach,
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comma not resentful. So by being kind to people you're
able to teach, you're in that you have that ability
to pass along information. If you're in a state where
you're just in anger, then you're pushing against everything you
don't want to receive. You're not in the state of receiving.
(06:37):
You just want people to feel your wrath. You don't
hear a thing they're saying. Your compassion is gone, and
it's just that agitated, boiling anger. Now that the God
given anger, this righteous indignation, is productive. It's there to
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help you deal with the things at hand, problem solving,
troubleshooting something. It propels you, it pushes you, It excites
you with passion and energy, but doesn't make you sit
and fester. And there's examples throughout Scripture of people confronting
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one another that are upset, that are filled with this
energy and this passion, but not that ugly, agitated, festering,
boiling anger. Not all anger is a sin. It's when
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it gets to that place that it becomes rage. It
gets to that place where there's nothing propelling you forward, learning, teaching, experiencing.
It's just about venting full throttle anger, rage, not listening,
(08:17):
and that has no place in the kingdom. That serves
no purpose and helps no one, you included. And when
you get in that state of anger, you get blind
to truth and it's just about you. Check that next time,
next time you're angry. See how it's so much about
(08:38):
you and no one else. How it's all about how
you feel and what you're going through, or what you
need or what you want it or whatever it is,
And yet you push aside everyone else around you. Anger
(09:00):
seems to be a lot of anger. And it's not
that all anger is bad or that all anger is sin.
As you know, sin means to miss the mark, and
there is anger that misses the mark. There's anger that
is caught up in just being angry, just being annoyed,
just being agitated, rather than something that propels you, that
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moves you forward, that makes you want to solve problems.
And the key to anger is you will notice that
anger really becomes sin when it's focused just on you,
When it's selfish in nature and the purpose, the goal
is completely shifted and no longer in focus, and it's
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just about the anger. So if you think of it
this way, that your anger should attack a problem, not
a person. If your anger attacks a problem, not a person,
then it's then you're looking to solve something. Then you're
looking to eradicate a problem, but not just attack a person.
(10:13):
And in scripture, and this happens so much, we've this
kind has come up on the show over and over again,
that there are times where you don't go to a
person and you feel that they've wronged you or something's happened.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You don't go to them to talk to them.
Speaker 2 (10:25):
You don't confront them face to face, which is the
biblical way. You look for, you know, some reason, just
to smear their name or to be ugly. That doesn't
it doesn't help. Galatians two eleven through fourteen deals with
(10:50):
this very thing. When you're opposing someone, you oppose them
to their face. If you feel someone's in the wrong,
then you express that to them in a way that
is helpful and propels you forward. But the anger that
I see right now, the anger that maybe you're experiencing yourself,
(11:13):
whether you be the recipient of it or you'd be
the person sending it out, is that it's only focused
on the individual. It's only about you and what you
need to do. Don't they know I need to do X,
Y and Z. Don't they know that I have to
do this or that I'm this? And usually that type
of anger stems from people in general not listening.
Speaker 1 (11:37):
If you're not.
Speaker 2 (11:37):
Attentive, if someone yells at you, in all likelihood, they
don't feel they're being heard. They feel that something you're
doing is hurting them or might hurt them, or is
going to hurt them, and that makes them nervous or scared,
(11:58):
and it manifests in screaming and anger. Some of the
most angry people in life are the most meek, are
the ones that are so fearful of someone hurting them
that they get loud. And maybe you do this, You
get loud in hopes of people either backing off or
(12:19):
running away or not coming too close to hurt you anymore.
That type of anger doesn't help. So to biblically deal
with anger, you have to first focus and see and
admit that your anger comes from a selfish place and
(12:44):
learn to turn that around to where you are attacking
that problem and not attacking a person. Aurora, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Today is a very special day for my son. He's
gonna take Body of Christ for the first time.
Speaker 1 (13:06):
Oh wonderful.
Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yes, he's extremely excited. He has been asking for it,
and uh, I gotta tell you it's a special need kid.
Speaker 1 (13:16):
Okay, And how so he's autistic?
Speaker 3 (13:19):
He is, he actually has celebra policy and the brain damage.
But contrail hold, the prediction is a very He's able
to walk, and you know, it's very good in school.
And he's a very happy child, extremely happy and very emotional.
So we go to church every Sunday and during communion
(13:41):
he is always always cry. You get emotional. I said,
it is happy and uh so we talk with a priest.
We got some preparation and today is a day and
he has great expectition.
Speaker 1 (13:55):
Okay, how so what are his expectations?
Speaker 3 (13:57):
Well, and that's what I will try to understand. And
you say that it's gonna take the body of Christ
today and then it's going to feel better.
Speaker 2 (14:07):
Oh so he thinks that it's going to be there's
going to be healing properties too.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I don't know. I'm afraid that he has some expectation
about that, you know, spiritual part of it. And then
maybe it's me. I'm not understanding him correctly, but I'm
afraid that he's suspecting something. And if so, I don't
(14:32):
know what to say after you know, what to tell
them because we talk every day about it and what
I told him, I say, yes, you're going to be
feeling good inside. You're gonna be feeling great inside. You're
going to be feeling in all love and and you know,
and I just you know, because it's working very hard
(14:53):
on correctness. Is problem, is physical problem, and it's learning
out with it. So many surgery and finally he's walking,
you know, with his feet on the ground, no more
on his toes and you know, so it's working very
hard in order to walk to the altar, because you
want to walk to the altar and I want to
be on the wheelchair and he want to be, you know.
Speaker 2 (15:17):
So he sounds wonderful because his spirit has desired to
me better good And that's a good way to see
it as well as the gift of having a special
needs child is first knowing that God trusts you enough
to oversee and care for somebody, so special is a
(15:38):
pretty amazing thing.
Speaker 1 (15:41):
Now, is he's seven or eight years old?
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Oh, it's actually ten, so he's longer.
Speaker 1 (15:46):
So he's he's older for the process.
Speaker 2 (15:47):
So he's he's going to be taking in some of
this information a little differently as well as he's a
little bit older.
Speaker 1 (15:55):
Was there a purpose for waiting.
Speaker 2 (15:58):
Was his special needs a part of that decision?
Speaker 3 (16:02):
Well, honest, to do, it was more me than himla.
I was afraid that he was not going to understand.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Okay, Well, it's a tough thing to understand at at
any age. I mean, there's there's a lot of adults,
I would say most adults that don't understand truly what's
going on. And even in the Church, you have differences
between Catholics and Protestants.
Speaker 3 (16:26):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:26):
You know, Catholics and Lutherans celebrate this particular ce ceremony
and look at and and truly believe that Christ that
I Am present truly in the Eucharist now, although they
see things slightly differently in there, whereas Protestant a lot
of other Protestant denominations believe that it's a practice to
(16:51):
be adhered to because I said so that it was
something to do.
Speaker 1 (16:54):
And memorial and in memory of and.
Speaker 2 (16:59):
So there's different views in this as it stands across
the board, which makes it difficult for.
Speaker 1 (17:05):
Even adults to comprehend.
Speaker 2 (17:07):
I would say that managed expectations is a good term
for you to know in this case, and that is
it's not about being a wet blanket or showering any
hopes with so much reality that they because the balance
between understanding God and how God moves in this world
(17:30):
and that the trials in life and as they happen
is a difficult one for adults as well, let alone
a child. So the balance here is to say, is
to really make sure that he explains what's going on,
and during the before the first communion, there's time with
the priest. Correct, yeah, okay, and the priest has explained
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and he's gone to Catechism and all of those things
to understand. So there's going to be some knowledge that
comes prior to this, but also to be reinforced by you,
the understanding that it's not magic. It's not about magic,
and it's not about that it's like a it's not
medicine like that.
Speaker 3 (18:07):
It's not going to fix it, no it.
Speaker 2 (18:09):
And it's not that that God doesn't have the power
to fix things or to fix what we think is broken,
because oftentimes God says it's not broken. You think it's
broken because you want it to do X, Y and Z,
and you know, honest.
Speaker 3 (18:24):
With you, it is probably maybe more my inspectition.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
That's that's interesting.
Speaker 2 (18:30):
So you say that that that you are putting the weight,
the false expectation on this.
Speaker 3 (18:34):
Uh No, it's I've been, you know, waiting for the
magic day. You know that one day you wake up
and everything is gone, you know, and maybe maybe it's me.
Speaker 2 (18:45):
Well, you know what the magic day is. The magic
day is understanding that this, that this is life, and
that God is in uh perfection and imperfection by way
of healing. Now it doesn't mean a full physical healing.
That means spiritual healing for most. If you remember, Paul
even had the thorn in the flesh what's referred to
(19:08):
as a thorn in the flesh in scripture, and he
asked three times to have it removed, and three times
God said no. And yet Paul had to see the
blessing in that understanding that those those privations or the
lack of something that everyone else seemed to have really
made Paul who he was. And that's part of the process.
(19:33):
And so the managing of expectations for both you and
I love that you're being honest, both you and your boy,
is to understand what's going on. One the first and
foremost the reason why you take communion is because I said,
so in scripture. That's first and foremost, because God said it,
it's in scripture.
Speaker 1 (19:53):
Therefore you do it. That the obedience is important.
Speaker 2 (19:57):
And secondly, to understand there is something very beautiful despite
all the disagreement that goes on in the different denominations
as to what's going on, and if it actually becomes
the blood and the body and all of these things,
those are inter body discussions. That the Body of Christ
discusses those things and argues those things, and that's fine.
(20:19):
But most importantly is that it was you're told to
do it, and that it is in remembrance, and that
it does have power. There is something quite beautiful and
connective towards that moment. I was constantly breaking bread and
connecting with people, and this is one of those moments
that cannot be denied.
Speaker 1 (20:40):
And you don't know what will take place.
Speaker 2 (20:42):
Neither of you, regardless of expectations, know what will take place.
But most importantly, what is guaranteed to take place is
the fulfillment of a commitment towards God. And that is
going to take place. So whether you know anything else
is going to or not going to, that, the fulfillment
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of a commitment towards God.
Speaker 1 (21:05):
That's what's exciting that that he is.
Speaker 2 (21:08):
Stepping forward, he is wheeling forward, he is limping forward,
doesn't matter. He is moving forward before God and man
in his commitment towards God.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
You know, you look at his face and he laid
up when you're going to church. If he has and
had that's our priests say, you have thisess in him,
and you know he feels that, and he has a
totally different emotion, and you know, and he has his
own reason and he has his own belief and maybe
(21:43):
it's different. It's different for me as an adult than him. Uh,
you know, with the way we expressed. But I know
that I appreciate that, I appreciate about the Christ, and
I get closer to you after I got my son.
He's making me better and you know, and all this
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emotion that he's having, him having it with him, and
it's an amazing feeling. It's amazing. It's I don't know,
I don't know how to explain that. You know, somebody
told me why you go to church every Sunday? That
church doesn't do anything for me. And and the best
way that I was able to express, I say, I
feel like I'm home. I had this big warm huk again.
(22:27):
You know, around me this, I feel like I'm home.
That's my best feeling. And I believe markets feel the
same way. I'm not sure, but they love that. And
he's happy, and you know, and and now you know
it's gonna have his body of Christ today and yesterday
was telling me, Mommy, then I'm gonna have every Sunday
(22:48):
and every Sunday I can have my body of Christ.
You know, it's it's beautiful. And you know how many
other people are so skeptical about that and how they
are no understanding.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Oh, they're skepticism in all things, Aurora, and the church
has been a focus of that. I've been a focus
of that for a long time. But I want you
to really deeply enjoy today and take it in for
all the ceremony and love and fun of it, as
well as the deep spiritual meaning that goes along with it.
(23:23):
And sharing that with your boy and experiencing that is
going to be a very powerful thing. Keep in mind,
keep in mind that that faith and understanding and a
relationship with God. Is it not about being perfect in
this world. It's about understanding and conquering imperfection with the
understanding of who God is and that there is it's
(23:45):
not only about this world, but about the world to come.
But have the most blessed day, and I hope that
you'll share with us. How today went on a future broadcast,
Brian to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (24:02):
Good morning, Thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (24:04):
My pleasure.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
I was discussing with a new friend. She is a
Christian and I am a believer as well, and I
was mentioning that the church that I'm going to is
planning on starting a contemporary style worship service. And she said,
do you have a piano in your church? And I said, well, sure,
(24:30):
I said, we have a couple. We have one upstairs
and we have one downstairs. And she said, uh, she says,
we don't have any instruments in our church. I said, oh,
that's kind of curious. Do you mind if I asked why?
And she said.
Speaker 3 (24:50):
That.
Speaker 4 (24:52):
She said that the New Testament church or the New
the New dispensation is that you know, no instruments in church.
And I said, but there's lots of references where instruments
were used to assist in praising God. When David brought
the arc into the Temple of meeting and you know, oh.
Speaker 1 (25:15):
Sure, there's musicians and Bryan.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
There are times in scripture where priests and musicians are referenced,
but only the musicians are referenced by name. There's there's
great importance to music, make a joyful noise. There are
many references to the importance of music and h and
even dancing at times as well.
Speaker 4 (25:40):
Ultimately that it came down to the term dispensation. I
don't know what that.
Speaker 2 (25:44):
Is, Okay, the term dispensation. Think of it this way,
because there's this gets into different theological understandings of dispensationalism.
But I want you to think of it this way
for the sake of your call. I think this will
be helpful. Think of it as time periods, management of
time periods, and how God manages those time periods, those
(26:07):
different dispensations. So think of it this way as and
I prefer people to think of it this way anyways.
But if you go through scripture, think of scripture in
humanity as a child that's being born and being raised
by God. Not just individual men and women, but think
(26:27):
of all men and women, the planet as a whole,
as a child being raised by God. So if you
look at the beginning and the middle and the ending
of scripture. You will see that God interacts with the
world a little differently. And people say, you know, what,
how come the God of the Old Testament seems so angry?
Speaker 3 (26:45):
You know?
Speaker 2 (26:45):
And then you know, and how come the God of
the New Testament seems so flowery? And they try putting
these things together. Well, a dispensation is sectioning of scripture
or time periods and the way God interacts interacted. So,
for instance, if you look at the Old Testament, it
does seem like God is angry all the time, but
(27:06):
that's not true.
Speaker 1 (27:07):
Really.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
What it is is, if you think of the world
as a baby, you may interact with a child an
infant differently. They're crying, they're needy. You might even pat
the bottom of a child, but you wouldn't of an
eighteen year old.
Speaker 1 (27:21):
It wouldn't make sense.
Speaker 2 (27:23):
So as they grow, you interact with your children differently. Correct, Okay,
So dispensationalism, in a very loose sense is how God
is interacting with humanity during different times and periods throughout history,
not only scripturally but now currently. So, which is a
(27:45):
wonderful way to look at scripture and to understand scripture.
The problem comes when people use this as a way
of defining God or defining Christianity or Salvation based on
these time periods. Some people separate the scriptures and do
about seven different dispensations or different times or periods where
God is interacting with his creation. But what I want
(28:09):
you to see is that none of those define God
or Salvation or man correctly. You have to see them
in their totality to understand what's going on. And sometimes
people get lost in certain That's why you'll hear people say, oh,
that's not for today, right, Oh, that's the Old Testament.
Speaker 1 (28:27):
That's not for that.
Speaker 2 (28:27):
No, that's ridiculous. God put it in there. It's there
for today, and it's important. And that's like removing the
grace out of the Old Testament or removing the law
out of the New Testament. They both have a place
and a purpose in both of those chapters of the
Christian faith by way of Judaism. So you get lost
(28:49):
if you say, well, it's not for today, which is
essentially what they're saying.
Speaker 1 (28:52):
Now do they use microphones at all?
Speaker 4 (28:54):
Y Oh you know, I didn't. I've heard you say
that on the show before. I did not ask that.
Speaker 2 (28:58):
I'm always humored by that that that uh that uh
using that it's not an instrument or what happen. Usually
when you get to that point, the church has some unhealthy, uh,
some unhealthy parts to it. Now, I don't know this church,
and I don't know how they're using this term, and
it's coming to me secondhand. But I will tell you this, Brian,
that if that's a that's a bad sign to me
about the health of a particular church.
Speaker 1 (29:21):
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