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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM sixty on demand. Sandra, Welcome
to the Jesus Christ Show.

Speaker 2 (00:07):
Howdy, how do you back?

Speaker 1 (00:09):
Catch you?

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Thanks for taking my call here, my pleasure with.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
A greeting like that, of course, how can I help you?

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Well, it sure has been interesting listening to what you've
been having to say in context of what's going on
with me. But essentially, you know, I am an abuse
survivor from my childhood, and you know, stuff happened, and
I do have a relationship with the Lord, but what

(00:44):
has happened is in my daily walk. It's almost like
I don't really want to touch bases on a daily basis.
And it's like I know everything's going to come out
in the end. You know, every thing works too good?
What works for good?

Speaker 1 (01:02):
You know? Sure, but.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
Excruciating things happen, you know, and there's no guarantee even
though you really, excruciating things happen, and so it's like
on a daily basis, it's like almost like why bother.
I know it's going to come out. I believe, you know,

(01:29):
But if I have a daily communication and then these
excruciating things happen, I don't see the point. I just
rather know that it's going to come out okay, and
you know, not really fussed with it.

Speaker 1 (01:45):
Well, so you're saying you don't want to have communication
with God because you don't think it's going to change
the outcome.

Speaker 2 (01:53):
Well, I believe that the outcome is going to be okay,
you know, based on myself, based on everything that the
world has done for me.

Speaker 1 (02:04):
Okay, man, that's fair enough. But why not have a
relationship while you're here?

Speaker 2 (02:13):
It really hurts?

Speaker 1 (02:14):
What does.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
Well, you know, it's like there, I am going through
something that is excruciating, and it's still excruciating, and that
doesn't get taken away.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
But you know, but building the relationship with God is
not to take away the bad things in your life.
Bad things will continue to happen. It's to have that
pillar to lean on and to have that strength and
that promise that bolsters you, that builds you up in
a way to be able to take those trials or
those Shakespearean slings and arrows that you take on every day.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Well, when you say being my pillar, you know, I
think of the Lord as my pillar in knowing that
I will be in the end, everything's going to come
out okay. And when I am in heaven, everything will
be okay. But it's really hard when I'm going through

(03:19):
something that is so painful to connect because it doesn't
make it any less painful, you know. I mean, I
don't just believe it all. It's just I don't want
the things that I'm experiencing that are horrible sometimes too

(03:45):
well to be so horrible. It's like, it's okay if
they happen, but you know, I just need it to
not maybe be so horrible sometimes.

Speaker 1 (03:53):
Well, God is not anesthesia. God is there not to
numb you from the things of this world. As a
matter of fact, it's not just about the promise at
the end. Otherwise, why did God put you here? There's
things to learn here, and part of the learning process

(04:14):
is learning to rely on God, to lean on God
through times of pain. If you're not doing that, yes,
it retards the relationship. And I and I know that
you're going you have there's this disconnect in your logic.
There's some disconnect in what you're doing.

Speaker 3 (04:35):
Now.

Speaker 1 (04:35):
I realize you said you are an abuse survivor that
was at the hands of a parent.

Speaker 2 (04:43):
Uh, there were a number of things that were going on.
There was a hazing during my school years, and there
was some incest, although I actually think the hazing was worse.

Speaker 1 (05:00):
In that when you're dealing with peers in one case
and then dealing with people that you should trust, that
skews how you see life. Most certainly, YEA God transcends
those things. And often because of the term, you know,

(05:22):
God the Father or God the Son or these types
of things, those terms, people kind of apply them in
those common roles in life. And when there's problems in
their childhood, whether it be with a parent, parent or
something like that, that it does make that family structure

(05:43):
skewed and makes it difficult to see sometimes and to
connect with God because of that. But you're reasoning that
you don't want to connect with God because there's problems
in the world on the day to day basis, I'm
just not sure what that means.

Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, what am I relying on the Lord for? I
already know you know that it's going to come out
in the end, But what is he doing for me now?
If I'm going through something that is excruciating? Now, He's

(06:24):
not anesthesia, So what am I turning to him for?

Speaker 1 (06:30):
For strength, for the ability to get through it, for
understanding if there's something to understand, or even better, to
direct you away from things that might cause that, Because
there may be things that you bring into your life
as well, in addition to the garbage that comes by
way of someone else or someone else's decision or whatever.

(06:50):
But you have got in your life actively as a
participant to help guide you away from things that might
be a problem or painful, to help you as an
alarm system, to alarm your body, your senses, your spirit
when you're getting into areas that might not be safe,
and we're good to comfort you and give you strength

(07:14):
in the areas that you can't control when there's pain,
something to give you to dip into that hope of
the promise of heaven, to dip into that hope here
on earth and utilize that to build you strength during
those times, to get you into the times of normalcy

(07:34):
or into a time of peace, to get you through that,
to know that you're not alone.

Speaker 2 (07:44):
Yeah, yeah, it's yeah.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
So you're saying, why would you reject those things, Why
would you not want those things in your life? Granted,
as I said, God is not anesthesia. God is not
there to numb you to life. But it doesn't mean
that God. I mean, friends do the same thing. Friends
help guide you, friends comfort you through times of pain.
Are you gonna reject everybody in your life because pain's

(08:12):
gonna be there? That doesn't make sense. Why would you
do that with God? If you wouldn't do that with
regular relationships? Do you not call people when you're in pain?
Do you not have friends that you lean on or
people that you trust? No, Well, then that's the problem.
You don't have it in your life in any way,
shape or form.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
I guess, I guess you know nobody can fix anything, right.

Speaker 1 (08:39):
Well, it's not about fixing things. You're human, You're broken.
By definition. Life hurts, it does. You enter this world
in the pain of someone else and you exit in
the pain of your own. But there's a lot of
beauty to it too, and there's a lot of wonder

(09:01):
and magic to it. And I will tell you not
all pain is bad and not all pleasure is good.

Speaker 2 (09:09):
Yeah, that's true.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Right, because there are people that took pleasure in causing
harm to you, and that was wrong, and I'm sorry
that you experienced those things. But there is a lot
of love and support and a lot of people that
would love to be there for you, and if you

(09:31):
don't let them in, you're missing You're missing a huge part.
You're missing the the end to the yang. You're missing
the beautiful part on the other side of people coming
together in time of pain and people loving on one another,
and you're missing that. And you're focusing on the ugly
thing and only getting the ugly thing. And I wish
you would branch out. I wish you would allow people

(09:53):
in me included. I know that people like to overly
spiritualize things, and it seems that you try and separate
the things that you go through in life from God

(10:14):
and kind of vice versa, and they go hand in hand.
God purposely puts you on earth if God wanted you to.
If it was only about the promise or only about
the end result, then God wouldn't have created this journey
for you, an often beautiful journey that sometimes is painful,

(10:39):
and this purposeful journey is there for you to learn
things and to know God and to connect with God better.
It's not about well I believe, And I'm just going
to hold my breath until the Kingdom of God comes
and I'll deal with this place. But I don't really

(11:01):
want to deal with this place. That's just not how
it works. God specifically said, my beloved, you're going to
be here, and I don't want you to be the world.
You've got to be here and you've got to deal
with it and go from that. But I don't want
you to learn from them in that sense. I don't
want you to be them. Those that reject, those that

(11:25):
believe they are their own God, which is what mostly happens,
people become their own God. Think about those the atheists
or whatnot, and the different beliefs they have in their
own life. They may not believe in God, but trust me,
they have a religion and they have their own things
that they focus on in their life. But this life
has a purpose and God wants to be a part

(11:47):
of that purpose alongside you. Kerry, Welcome to the Jesus
Christ Show.

Speaker 4 (11:54):
Hi Jesus, thank you for taking my call, and thank
you for everything, all the blessings in my life life
good for bad.

Speaker 1 (12:00):
In the augly well, praise God. How can I help
you today?

Speaker 4 (12:04):
I have a life situation that went from bad to
worse to good.

Speaker 1 (12:08):
Thank you, well, hallelujah, let's hear it.

Speaker 4 (12:11):
Beginning of the year I was well, this year. I
was well into my fourth year of unemployment. I was
in May. I was looking at eviction from my humble
little abode, and I went to a county agency here

(12:34):
that I had heard could help me with that. Unfortunately,
they couldn't help me without me being employed. So I
walked the mile home from there, the first half of
the mile crying and being upset and wondering why God
did this to me, And the second half of the
mile I walked home praying. I got home, was dejected

(13:00):
for a while, and within an hour and a half
of the time that I got home, I received a
phone call asking me to come in for an interview
for a job, for an application that had been floating
out there for a year.

Speaker 2 (13:15):
My goodness, in July, I got that job.

Speaker 1 (13:20):
Oh praise God. That's awesome.

Speaker 4 (13:23):
So it's not always easy to live by face as
opposed to by sight, but it does happen.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
Indeed, so, and isn't that interesting sometimes?

Speaker 3 (13:39):
You know?

Speaker 1 (13:39):
It's often people ask, well, why doesn't God want this
for my life? And we have to remind them that
God does want that for your life. But it may
not be the same time frame that you think, and
to hear things like that, and I appreciate you, Carrie
a calling and sharing your story because to hear things

(14:02):
like you had a you know, a resume, an application,
what have you floating around for a year before you
ever got response on it, before you ever heard back,
or any of those things is a testament to patience
and to your faith because you just don't know. And

(14:24):
for whatever reason God wanted to teach you that patience
or understanding of spending time with Him during that time,
whatever it was, that you learned it and you're back
on the track to balancing everything out in your life.

Speaker 4 (14:42):
It sounds like, yeah, yes, I am. And that's not
to say that my face doesn't waver from time to time.

Speaker 2 (14:50):
Because of course it does. And you know that.

Speaker 4 (14:57):
I tried to learn something from every lesson or life
situation again the goods of bad or the ugly. So
but I wanted to say thank you. And it may
not again, it may not always be in our time,
and sometimes the waiting is really really hard, but the
payoff is way worth it, and not just in this.

Speaker 1 (15:19):
Life, absolutely, and how sweet that is when it comes together.
I appreciate you calling, Carrie, and God bless you and
your patience. And even taking the time to want to
tell a story where you said, hey, you know, things
went from good to bad and then went from bad
to good, because that is a very hard place to live,

(15:41):
and a lot of people live in that space of wow,
it woes me, and nothing is going to get better,
and life is going to continue to be you know,
one pile of dung after the next. And there's a
point where you're sitting there staring at a pile of

(16:04):
dung and all of a sudden, this little sprout pops
up and you realize, oh, yeah, dung is a fertilizer,
and sometimes that garbage that goes on in your life,
that big pile of dung of problems is there to

(16:27):
fertilize for some reason, to make something else grow, something new,
a new direction, a new insight, a new understanding, a
new tool for your tool belt. We always talked about
that on the show, the life's tool belt that you
use every day, that you reach for to have those
tools that help you get through the day. Well, you

(16:48):
kind of it's like a video game, you know, where
you earn this and oh now you have this weapon
or this food supply or this medical supply or whatever.
To keep you going. And God has given you those
opportunities in life to collect those things for your toolbox
to make you better and stronger. And if you give up,

(17:09):
you never get to see them. You never get to
see the ending of the movie, the happy ending. Happy
endings don't only happen in Hollywood. It can happen in
real life if you allow them to, if you allow
God to finish what he started. In Scripture, it says
that God is the author and finisher of your faith,

(17:32):
and the wonderful, the wonderful thing of that, as we
talked about faith many calls dealing with faith today is
the wonderful part of that is that, yes, you have
to participate, you have to read scripture, you have to pray,
you have to actualize your faith and apply it to things.
But it says that ultimately God not only authors your

(17:54):
faith but finishes it. God doesn't just leave you in
the God is there with you in the process of it, all,
with you through the good to bad, and as Carrie said,
the ugly to move you in a direction that is
positive and beneficial to you and to others around you,

(18:16):
if you allow him to, if you allow him to
guide you and not wrestle with it. I see people
do this all the time, fight with machines or systems
or whatever because they want it and they want it now.
And I'm telling you you should beware of that, because

(18:37):
you may be forcing yourself down a path that is
much more dangerous, much more problematic then the path that
takes longer that God's got you on, and that you
will force yourself into something that is a whole world
of hurt. I see this in relationships. People fight to

(18:59):
stay in relationships that horrible because emotionally and because of pride,
they don't want somebody to go. But in the long
run it's often better. So many men that stay with
women that aren't good for them, so many women that
stay with men that aren't good for them, and too long.

(19:23):
It's okay to go down a path and have a
relationship and say, hey, this isn't working, but to keep
it going when it's not, be careful of what you
do to expedite things or to be convenient, because that
will ultimately come back and bite you, and when it does,
it will be ten times bigger than the first problem.

(19:46):
That if you just were patient and waited and trusted
that things would work out in the first place. Tony,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

Speaker 3 (20:01):
Good morning.

Speaker 1 (20:02):
How can I help you.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
I'm an eighty three year old woman and I'm revisiting
my will. My estate is not overwhelming, but it's reasonable.
I have two children. In the past, I've always felt
the right thing to do was to divide everything evenly.
I have different thoughts now. I would never leave all

(20:28):
of my estate to one child, but while I would
consider while I want to leave the bulk of it
to both children, there will be other considerations that I
would now want to leave to one child and not
the other. Because one child has moved away, and while

(20:48):
she occasionally sends a card or makes a call, has
distanced herself, the other child has remained close. He includes
me in all hot holidays, visits me oh two or
three times a week, calls me daily. He and his
wife basically take care of me, although I'm still pretty

(21:11):
able to take care of myself.

Speaker 1 (21:13):
Well, are you being punitive or are you just not
close to that child.

Speaker 3 (21:19):
I've thought about that. No, I don't think it's punitive.
I think it's more realistic that people who stay close
to you and help you and work with you and
for you probably deserve more consideration, fair enough, And I.

Speaker 1 (21:43):
Don't think there's anything wrong with that, Okay. I think
that in a situation where you feel someone has given
you it, just if you're if you want to do
it in a way where you split it up, you
split up a portion of it, and you say this
is this is goes to my children, and I have

(22:05):
split this up evenly amongst you, and this is for
you being you know, my blood and my children, and
I love you. And then have as it's you know,
set up in the will or whatever, and this is
an extra amount for this child for taking the extra
effort to take care of me or watch over my

(22:28):
things or whatever. That's fine as well, however you want
it to be stated. But of course you love your children,
of course, And do you feel that there's some reason
that your daughter has kind of stepped out of the
picture a little bit.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
Frankly, it seems as though she was always more attached.
She tied up with a boy when she was fifteen,
married him, and seemed to have attached herself to him.
Her friends have always meant more to her than her family.
I've accepted it, But now that I'm older and needing

(23:12):
more help. I see more reality in rewarding my son more.
It won't be you know, I'm not leaving everything to
one child and not the other. Sure, the largest part
of the estate will be split. I think that's just

(23:32):
her nature.

Speaker 1 (23:35):
Well, I think I think that's that's fair if somebody
has given the extra if a child has given the
extra effort, and often that falls on to one child
that they end up being whether it's proximity or just character,
it's just, you know, that's just the way they are.
It ends up falling on one child, even in you know,

(23:58):
larger families to take care of. I think that that's fair. Yeah,
I think that's fair. It's your money. You can do
what you want with it. It's even fair if you
wanted to give all Just keep this in mind. Have
all of those things. Again, this is not a legal show.
I'll do with morality, but have all those things in order,

(24:18):
because once you come home with me, they are your
family is left to deal with that and to deal
with any battle that might ensue or frustrations. And do
they have a good relationship as brother and sister, or
she's similarly disconnected.

Speaker 3 (24:40):
With him more attached to other people. I guess similar, okay.

Speaker 1 (24:47):
Similar, but just keep those things in mind. But it's
fair for you to do. There is nothing right or wrong.
I guess A parent is always teaching up until the end, right,
And that's a very uh, that's something that you're you're
teaching and you're saying, hey, listen, we this is a

(25:09):
family inheritance, and family is more than just blood. It
is uh, it's you know, a verb, and you're participatory
in each other's lives. And you have every right to
give that money to whenever you want. And if that's
the case that you choose that that's fine as well.

(25:32):
Just you know, let it be known and to have
that explained in any paperwork so it's understood and therefore accepted.
That last call brings up a lot of thoughts about
family and connection. And I know that life is built
on relationships. It really is. And I've said many many

(25:53):
times that Scripture is all about relationships. It doesn't seem
and that's not to be some new ageing modern thought
of whittling everything down to relationships. It's the truth. If
you go through the beginning and Adam and Eve to
the Book of revelation. It's all about interaction with one another,

(26:14):
in interaction with God and getting to the focus, to
that center of relationships is the key to everything in life.
Of everything, your job, your well being, your home, the
peace at home, all of those things really center on

(26:39):
how you interact with others and can relate. And that
means and by relating, it means not only you know,
if you think one sidedly that you deal well with relationships,
that's not a relationship. If you understand people, take time
to understand them. And in a case of being a

(26:59):
parent and leaving money to your children putting it in
a will, I know that there's a lot of factors
that you're thinking about dealing with. Well, this person took
care of me, or this person took time with me.
But there's also things that you have to think about
when you're gone, and the relationship that that leaves the

(27:20):
rest of the family members in and the siblings in,
how that could build rivalry or that rivalry or interaction
caused problems in the interaction of those siblings, and so
your relationships never stop. Isn't that fascinating that even when
someone passes on, that really the spirit of what they

(27:42):
bring to that family unit or whatever continues to be
a part of that family. And oftentimes there are parents
that mistreated children or favored one or did something that
that continues to last. How many times have we had
phone calls on this very program of people calling in

(28:03):
and saying something happened a long time ago, the parents
are even passed, and it still permeates or has a
driving force in relationships to this very day. So obviously,
relationships are incredibly important, and sometimes people get wrapped up
in the fact that their chemical or chemistry or I

(28:24):
connect with this person or I don't connect with that person.
But ultimately, learning how to deal with other people, learning
how to understand other people's needs and who they are
as a person is part of communicating and part of
having relationships. You need to take time to understand and

(28:45):
to learn about those people as well, and I encourage
you to do that in all walks of life, family, friends, everything.
And I know that there's a lot of noise out
there these days, and a lot going on in the world,
but I want you to remember these simple words. I
am with you always. KFI A M six forty on
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