December 24, 2025 • 25 mins
The Jesus Christ Show Hour 3 (12/24) - Christmas Eve Special 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Happy to be with you on this Christmas Eve. Merry
Christmas to you and your family. I hope you're gathering
around staying warm as the storm continues through southern California
through today and tomorrow and beyond. Just keep it right
here and you'll get everything you need to know if
you have a theology question or a life situation question.
(00:30):
We call them life situations because they can change anywhere
that you hear my voice. Eight hundred five to zero
one five three four. That's eight hundred five to zero
one five three four, Keith. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Hi, Jesus, Hi Keith.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
How can I help you?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
I have a question for you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Was Mary born without original sin? And or did it
happen after conception?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
What you mean sin? What happened after conception hers?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Or mine?
Speaker 6 (01:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
After her conception?
Speaker 7 (01:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So the Immaculate Conception is basically is dogma to the
Catholic Church as of about eighteen.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Fifty four, and that is.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
The belief that Mary was born without sin from the womb,
she was protected, and that my mother was without sin.
Protestants do not believe this. This is one of the
tenants and the separations of the Church. Of course, Protestants
slowed down. The word is Protestant. They were protesting the
(02:15):
church at the time. So the church split and divided,
and then you had Catholics, the universal Church separate into Protestants,
and so the Protestants, the Protestants do not believe in
(02:36):
the virgin birth. And there's a couple of reasons why
so we'll go from scripture, not from dogma. With respect
to our Catholic brothers and sisters, there is no place
in scripture that says Mary is without sin as a
(02:56):
matter of as a matter of fact, there is scripture
after scripture after scripture that says there is no one
except Christ who is sinless. So that's a really, you know,
(03:16):
a problematic when you read Romans three twenty three saying
for all all have sinned and fallen short of the
glory of God. The only one that's ever talked about
being outside of that says in John one, John one
eight through ten. If we say we have no sin,
we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
(03:40):
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just
to forgive us, and so on and so forth. There
are throughout Scripture many cases where it talks about that
everybody other than Christ.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Is with sin.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Also, Mary, my mother refers to me in scripture as savior,
Savior of what the being the savior is to refer
to salvation, and salvation is there in regards to sin
(04:25):
and the sin nature that comes through the bloodline after
the fall in the garden. So ultimately it's it's a
tough cell through scripture. But in deference to our Catholic
brothers and sisters listening there, they have beliefs that are
(04:48):
in addition to Scripture, which is dogma, and their understanding
therein so that ties in to their belief system, and
so that adds another insight as to why they believe
what they believe and where it falls in their belief system.
(05:08):
That is outside of scripture. There's nothing in scripture that
talks about that or being. Those are things that grew later.
There are some historians and theologians that believe, and keep
in mind there's a bias in all those that if
they're Protestants, they're going to look at it from a
Protestant point of view, but believe that it was to
(05:31):
enhance the prominence of Mary in hopes of getting women
more interested in the church at the time. So it
depends where you land on those things. But scripturally, which
is where this show focuses on, even though we do
look at history and those things as well, but try
to remove it from the seeding of one particular church
(05:54):
and focus on the scripture that defines and appoint at
all things and continues to be a direction for all
that is known has been known from the words of God.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And you can give me a call if you have
a question dealing with theology, religion, spirituality, worldviews, the Bible,
or if you're going through something that you swing on you.
We call them life situations. You can give me a
call as well. Eight hundred five to zero one five
three four, eight hundred five to zero one five three four, Lauria,
(06:36):
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Dear Jesus, thank you. I'm grateful for taking my call.
I've tried for a long time quickly and I hope
to be articulate. I'm nervous that I am even talking
to you.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Oh no, sane what I want to say.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
I've for the last couple of years now, I've been
doing re search on the Holy Spirit. It was just
something that came to me and I got into I
think it's anumalogy if I pronounced that correctly. There's things
that I agree with, things that I don't agree with,
but I am totally one hundred percent into the Holy Spirit.
(07:18):
And somewhere somewhere in my research, I came across something
that said, there are sins that we commit that are
unforgivable by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the
spirit of God. And I've mentioned this to some of
my friends that we discuss the Holy Spirit and other things,
(07:40):
and they disagree. They say that there is there is
not a sin that is unforgivable, that is forgivable. Not
articulating and correct. I read that we can commit sins
that are unforgivable by the Holy Spirit. Am I correct?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
There is one?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So first of all, pneumatology numology or when you're studying
that's like lungs or things like that, or there are
certain things. They come from the same word. Actually it
means breath, or it means like the breath of life.
So they come from similar places, but one is the
study of the theological concept of the spirit. So there
(08:29):
is something in scripture that is called the blasphemy of
the Holy Spirit, and it can be very confusing to some.
So I'm going to even know even though that every
analogy breaks down at some point, they're used as an
illustration to help understand bigger concepts.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
So let's look at this for a second.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
If you're driving, heaven forbid down a road towards a
cliff that if you go off the cliff you most
certainly will pass, and it is lined with loved ones,
(09:13):
and they are calling out to you as you drive,
and they say, Gloria, stop the car. You're going to
go over a cliff, and you ignore them and you
continue to drive. And then people say, stop, Gloria, there's
a cliff at the end. You will go over it
and you will surely die. And you continue to go forward,
(09:34):
with all the people and the loved ones in your
life saying don't do it, Gloria.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
You still go.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You pierce that break between the ground and now the sky,
and your vehicle goes over.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
The cliff.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Your realization now is confirmed. Oh my gosh, they were right.
There is no going back after that. You've ignored everything
and you can't say, oh, I want to do over.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
It's done. That is the conviction of your belief.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That is the finalization the consequences of your decision, your
choice of free will. Now, using that, let's go back
and talk about the Trinity, the Father of the Son,
and the Holy Spirit. It is simple to say, the
(10:34):
Holy Spirit woos you and taps on your heart and
brings you to Christ. The belief and conviction of the
death and the cross of perfection in the sinless one
brings you to the Father because that bridge was broken.
(10:54):
So you need that process of the Spirit bringing you
to Christ, bringing you to the Father in the harmony
of the Trinity. If you ignore the Spirit. Now they
refer to this as giving. It talks about the blaspheming
(11:17):
the Holy Spirit being crediting things improperly, not crediting the
Spirit properly or crediting it improperly. Imagine this. The Spirit
is those people, your friends and family standing on the
side of the road wooing you to no Christ. If
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you reject that, if you blasphem, if you reject the
wooing of the Holy Spirit, which Christ himself left for people,
for humans to be the mighty comforter and to bring
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them through the salvation into the hands in the arms
of the Father. If you ignore that unto death, it's
as final as being off the other side of the cliff.
You can't come back from that because if you reject
God unto death, that's your last decision and that is
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respected by God.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Is there is there any scripture that that I can
hold on to? When I mentioned this to my friends,
It's not about.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
A literal scripture where you read this one thing. It's
about the hermonoutics. The balance of scripture, the harmony of
scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is left for humans.
We know that the Holy Spirit brings people to me,
That brings people to the Father. When you put these
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things together, that is the only finality that you can
do to God is with free will reject God. God
will not force himself. Hell is not designed for people.
Hell's is designed for fallen angels. Humans are the only
ones that make a decision to go there or not.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
If you.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Don't love God and serve God for ninety one hundred
years on this planet, why would you want to be
forced to for eternity. God gives people with free will
the ability.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
To not do that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But once you make that decision, God says, either My
will be done or thy will be done. And in
the case of thy will be done, that means you
have made yourself God and you will have the consequences.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Therein you're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Merry Christmas to you and your family. Happy to be
here till four o'clock in for John Cobelt today. We
do this live every single Christmas Eve. Spend time together.
I know it's very wet and rainy out there in
southern California. Be safe and be cautious and anything you
need to know you will get here.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Go nowhere.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Eight hundred five to zero one five three four eight
hundred five two zero one five three four is the number.
If you have a question, let's talk to Christopher, who's
been incredibly patient. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
Hi Jesus, the Happy Birthday.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Why thank you.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I have a couple of questions for you. Okay, I
was wondering how come you were uh nailed. I guess
I wouldn't saying I don't know if nailed is the
correct word, right? How come you were like nailed in
the cross? Because I saw pictures of you and I
(15:17):
saw black coming out your hands and your feet. And
my second question is how how did you first rise
rise up on your birthday?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, actually there's a there's a lot to unravel there,
uh Christopher. For a couple of things. One, yes, nailed pierced,
Uh nailed to the cross. That was I wasn't the
only one that was ever nailed to a tree across
a post. That was cruci fixion was something that predates
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my crucifixion. But if you look at the timeline, you're
talking about getting confused with Christmas and Easter and the
birth and the resurrection and all of those things. So
it's kind of hard to that's the way to say
it unravel that particular particular ball of yarn. So let's
(16:18):
see the piercing. Yes, piercing didn't rise from the dead
on Christmas. Christmas, the celebration of Christmas is actually my birth.
I hope that helps I help Mark. Welcome to the
Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
I asked that a question I believe in scripture refers
to you as the only begotten son of God, and
I was wondering if that was an inference to the
physical conception with Mary and God the Father.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, So this causes people confusion because of translations. If
you go back whenever there's some sort of confusion or
you're not sure as to what the meaning might be.
There's a couple of things that are important. Context is important,
making sure that it's seated in the context of what's
being said. Also, how is that same word used? Ancient
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languages off and use things like context, same as you
do today, but they had less words than the vocabulary
of let's say English today or modern English. So if
you start to break that down and you see it
in its context, it's like mark if I said I
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was working on a table, Well, if I'm a mathematician,
it might be a mathematical table. If I'm a carpenter,
I might be making a table. If I'm working on
some art, I might be actually working on the table, drawing, painting,
doing whatever on the table. So context is important. Secondly
is to take not take the translation per se, but
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to go back and look at the actual words. So
in this case, when you go back and you look
at the actual word that's being used there. In the Greek,
it's monogenous and has two primary definitions. So the first
one to be pertaining to being the only one of
its kind within a specific relationship. Okay, So Hebrews eleven seventeen,
(18:23):
for his instance, it says by faith Abraham, when he
was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received
the promises, was in the act of ordering up his
only son. Used the same word, but Abraham had more
than one son, so it was talking about the relationship
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was specific, not talking about only being begotten. See you
go through Leviticus, and you see so and so begot
so and so and all of these things. You start thinking, well,
then that means they gave birth to But that's not
the truth. The other usage of the word monogenous that
is translated in the King James, which is the one
(19:05):
that causes the most confusion. It refers to a specific uniqueness,
a uniqueness that is one of a kind, a unique
in its kind, unique in its definition, and that's what
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is used there. It's not talking about being born or
being a God's son in the sense that I'm not God,
because it says it says differently in First John in
the beginning was the word.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
The word was with God. The word was God.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And that's very specific as to who I was in
the context of scripture.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
So here monogenous.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
The Greek word is used to say one of a kind,
not begotten in the sense that there was a physical
birth or any of those things.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Because I've predate my birth.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
There are times they're called Christophanes in scripture where you
can find that I pre exist the physical self that
comes later in scripture.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
It is the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Merry Christmas to you and your family. May it be
one of health and happiness and joy connecting with one
another over good food and conversation. And we have just
one more segment here, so let's get to it and
talk with Stephen.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Stephen, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Hello, unhappy anniversary of birth, my holy host.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Thank you. How can I help you today, Stephen?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Well, question regarding I guess the church history more or
less at one point in the early history of the
Church after your death, did Church determine this period to
be a holy day or a recognized day annually to
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what we know today.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It's interesting that you asked that, because if you go
back and you really trace it, it wasn't really. There
are some that celebrate, just like there is anything, but
there was not as much interest early on as one
might think. Wasn't until the fourth century that the church
kind of formalized it. But basically the December twenty fifth
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stuff was kind of trying to push out the robin
pagan winter solstice stuff, so like festivals like Saturnalia and
things like that, the worship being of the sun, and
they would try and kind of put that so the
feast of the Nativity and these types of things push
(21:55):
that out. Christmas comes from Christ's Mass. It's an old
name for church service, for the church service, and then
you have Saint Nicholas and these things and decorations and
Carolyn came later. But if you look at early history,
you'll find that a lot of it was filled with debauchery.
I mean, there were a lot of people that celebrated,
(22:18):
but you know, a bit differently. There was a lot
of drinking and things like that out in the streets
and the like. Well, let's see if we squeeze one more. Kathy,
Welcome to The Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Oh yes, hello, good afternoon.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Hi.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Hi. I was wondering if it's bad to watch Fatal
Traction on Christmas Eve because, for the only reason that
it occurred at this time many years ago, and for
some reason, it gives me solace. It's kind of soothing you.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Thank God you're not in that relationship. What's the solace?
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Well, because she gets revenge.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Oh well, I'm not sure if revenge is healthy, but
I guess if I had to choose before between you
watching it on Christmas Eve versus Easter. If you've seen
it before, you know what I'm saying with the rabbit,
that's probably better. But I'm not crazy about the revenge
part Kathy. But no, there's nothing wrong with watching it.
(23:28):
Let's see if we can squeeze one more in Joe,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
You're the big finale. How can I help you?
Speaker 9 (23:36):
Yeah, I was just wondering, like, don't you do you
feel like it's blasphemy even maybe for you to be
speaking in you know, like if and you know you're
our Lord and savior for the first show, you know,
even though you're answering questions, but just to be speaking
in the first person.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
As if you were here.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
That's an excellent question and a great one to end on. No,
the concept of the program, if you listen to it,
is a way of teaching uniquely people about things that
are hard to talk about otherwise. And no one should
ever take credit for the words of God than God himself.
(24:16):
So on this program, if you listen carefully, all glory
goes to God. All words are from God, and no
one should have their name on this show other than
Christ himself. And if you understand the interaction of let's
call it radio theater, it's a powerful tool. And may
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all the words go out in His name and no
one else's. Have a merry Christmas, be kind to each other,
have empathy, and remember the true reason of the season.
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 10 (24:54):
Everybody reach out and say, personagg Jesus. Some want a
he be some who cared, Person Jesus.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
You are listening to the Jesus Christ Show. To ask
your question, dial eight hundred five to zero one five
three four
Speaker 1 (25:31):
K f I A M six forty on demand
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Happy to be with you on this Christmas Eve. Merry
Christmas to you and your family. I hope you're gathering
around staying warm as the storm continues through southern California
through today and tomorrow and beyond. Just keep it right
here and you'll get everything you need to know if
you have a theology question or a life situation question.
(00:30):
We call them life situations because they can change anywhere
that you hear my voice. Eight hundred five to zero
one five three four. That's eight hundred five to zero
one five three four, Keith. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (00:51):
Hi, Jesus, Hi Keith.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
How can I help you?
Speaker 5 (00:55):
I have a question for you.
Speaker 3 (01:00):
Was Mary born without original sin? And or did it
happen after conception?
Speaker 2 (01:15):
What you mean sin? What happened after conception hers?
Speaker 4 (01:26):
Or mine?
Speaker 6 (01:29):
No?
Speaker 3 (01:30):
After her conception?
Speaker 7 (01:33):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (01:33):
Okay.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
So the Immaculate Conception is basically is dogma to the
Catholic Church as of about eighteen.
Speaker 4 (01:46):
Fifty four, and that is.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
The belief that Mary was born without sin from the womb,
she was protected, and that my mother was without sin.
Protestants do not believe this. This is one of the
tenants and the separations of the Church. Of course, Protestants
slowed down. The word is Protestant. They were protesting the
(02:15):
church at the time. So the church split and divided,
and then you had Catholics, the universal Church separate into Protestants,
and so the Protestants, the Protestants do not believe in
(02:36):
the virgin birth. And there's a couple of reasons why
so we'll go from scripture, not from dogma. With respect
to our Catholic brothers and sisters, there is no place
in scripture that says Mary is without sin as a
(02:56):
matter of as a matter of fact, there is scripture
after scripture after scripture that says there is no one
except Christ who is sinless. So that's a really, you know,
(03:16):
a problematic when you read Romans three twenty three saying
for all all have sinned and fallen short of the
glory of God. The only one that's ever talked about
being outside of that says in John one, John one
eight through ten. If we say we have no sin,
we deceive ourselves, and the truth is not in us.
(03:40):
If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just
to forgive us, and so on and so forth. There
are throughout Scripture many cases where it talks about that
everybody other than Christ.
Speaker 4 (04:00):
Is with sin.
Speaker 2 (04:03):
Also, Mary, my mother refers to me in scripture as savior,
Savior of what the being the savior is to refer
to salvation, and salvation is there in regards to sin
(04:25):
and the sin nature that comes through the bloodline after
the fall in the garden. So ultimately it's it's a
tough cell through scripture. But in deference to our Catholic
brothers and sisters listening there, they have beliefs that are
(04:48):
in addition to Scripture, which is dogma, and their understanding
therein so that ties in to their belief system, and
so that adds another insight as to why they believe
what they believe and where it falls in their belief system.
(05:08):
That is outside of scripture. There's nothing in scripture that
talks about that or being. Those are things that grew later.
There are some historians and theologians that believe, and keep
in mind there's a bias in all those that if
they're Protestants, they're going to look at it from a
Protestant point of view, but believe that it was to
(05:31):
enhance the prominence of Mary in hopes of getting women
more interested in the church at the time. So it
depends where you land on those things. But scripturally, which
is where this show focuses on, even though we do
look at history and those things as well, but try
to remove it from the seeding of one particular church
(05:54):
and focus on the scripture that defines and appoint at
all things and continues to be a direction for all
that is known has been known from the words of God.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
And you can give me a call if you have
a question dealing with theology, religion, spirituality, worldviews, the Bible,
or if you're going through something that you swing on you.
We call them life situations. You can give me a
call as well. Eight hundred five to zero one five
three four, eight hundred five to zero one five three four, Lauria,
(06:36):
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 6 (06:39):
Dear Jesus, thank you. I'm grateful for taking my call.
I've tried for a long time quickly and I hope
to be articulate. I'm nervous that I am even talking
to you.
Speaker 5 (06:52):
Oh no, sane what I want to say.
Speaker 6 (06:55):
I've for the last couple of years now, I've been
doing re search on the Holy Spirit. It was just
something that came to me and I got into I
think it's anumalogy if I pronounced that correctly. There's things
that I agree with, things that I don't agree with,
but I am totally one hundred percent into the Holy Spirit.
(07:18):
And somewhere somewhere in my research, I came across something
that said, there are sins that we commit that are
unforgivable by the Holy Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the
spirit of God. And I've mentioned this to some of
my friends that we discuss the Holy Spirit and other things,
(07:40):
and they disagree. They say that there is there is
not a sin that is unforgivable, that is forgivable. Not
articulating and correct. I read that we can commit sins
that are unforgivable by the Holy Spirit. Am I correct?
Speaker 4 (08:04):
There is one?
Speaker 2 (08:05):
So first of all, pneumatology numology or when you're studying
that's like lungs or things like that, or there are
certain things. They come from the same word. Actually it
means breath, or it means like the breath of life.
So they come from similar places, but one is the
study of the theological concept of the spirit. So there
(08:29):
is something in scripture that is called the blasphemy of
the Holy Spirit, and it can be very confusing to some.
So I'm going to even know even though that every
analogy breaks down at some point, they're used as an
illustration to help understand bigger concepts.
Speaker 4 (08:49):
So let's look at this for a second.
Speaker 2 (08:52):
If you're driving, heaven forbid down a road towards a
cliff that if you go off the cliff you most
certainly will pass, and it is lined with loved ones,
(09:13):
and they are calling out to you as you drive,
and they say, Gloria, stop the car. You're going to
go over a cliff, and you ignore them and you
continue to drive. And then people say, stop, Gloria, there's
a cliff at the end. You will go over it
and you will surely die. And you continue to go forward,
(09:34):
with all the people and the loved ones in your
life saying don't do it, Gloria.
Speaker 4 (09:38):
You still go.
Speaker 2 (09:41):
You pierce that break between the ground and now the sky,
and your vehicle goes over.
Speaker 4 (09:51):
The cliff.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Your realization now is confirmed. Oh my gosh, they were right.
There is no going back after that. You've ignored everything
and you can't say, oh, I want to do over.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
It's done. That is the conviction of your belief.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That is the finalization the consequences of your decision, your
choice of free will. Now, using that, let's go back
and talk about the Trinity, the Father of the Son,
and the Holy Spirit. It is simple to say, the
(10:34):
Holy Spirit woos you and taps on your heart and
brings you to Christ. The belief and conviction of the
death and the cross of perfection in the sinless one
brings you to the Father because that bridge was broken.
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So you need that process of the Spirit bringing you
to Christ, bringing you to the Father in the harmony
of the Trinity. If you ignore the Spirit. Now they
refer to this as giving. It talks about the blaspheming
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the Holy Spirit being crediting things improperly, not crediting the
Spirit properly or crediting it improperly. Imagine this. The Spirit
is those people, your friends and family standing on the
side of the road wooing you to no Christ. If
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you reject that, if you blasphem, if you reject the
wooing of the Holy Spirit, which Christ himself left for people,
for humans to be the mighty comforter and to bring
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them through the salvation into the hands in the arms
of the Father. If you ignore that unto death, it's
as final as being off the other side of the cliff.
You can't come back from that because if you reject
God unto death, that's your last decision and that is
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respected by God.
Speaker 3 (12:35):
Wow.
Speaker 6 (12:36):
Is there is there any scripture that that I can
hold on to? When I mentioned this to my friends,
It's not about.
Speaker 2 (12:50):
A literal scripture where you read this one thing. It's
about the hermonoutics. The balance of scripture, the harmony of
scripture shows that the Holy Spirit is left for humans.
We know that the Holy Spirit brings people to me,
That brings people to the Father. When you put these
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things together, that is the only finality that you can
do to God is with free will reject God. God
will not force himself. Hell is not designed for people.
Hell's is designed for fallen angels. Humans are the only
ones that make a decision to go there or not.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
If you.
Speaker 2 (13:33):
Don't love God and serve God for ninety one hundred
years on this planet, why would you want to be
forced to for eternity. God gives people with free will
the ability.
Speaker 5 (13:50):
To not do that.
Speaker 2 (13:52):
But once you make that decision, God says, either My
will be done or thy will be done. And in
the case of thy will be done, that means you
have made yourself God and you will have the consequences.
Speaker 1 (14:07):
Therein you're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (14:13):
Merry Christmas to you and your family. Happy to be
here till four o'clock in for John Cobelt today. We
do this live every single Christmas Eve. Spend time together.
I know it's very wet and rainy out there in
southern California. Be safe and be cautious and anything you
need to know you will get here.
Speaker 4 (14:32):
Go nowhere.
Speaker 2 (14:34):
Eight hundred five to zero one five three four eight
hundred five two zero one five three four is the number.
If you have a question, let's talk to Christopher, who's
been incredibly patient. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 7 (14:50):
Hi Jesus, the Happy Birthday.
Speaker 4 (14:52):
Why thank you.
Speaker 7 (14:55):
I have a couple of questions for you. Okay, I
was wondering how come you were uh nailed. I guess
I wouldn't saying I don't know if nailed is the
correct word, right? How come you were like nailed in
the cross? Because I saw pictures of you and I
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saw black coming out your hands and your feet. And
my second question is how how did you first rise
rise up on your birthday?
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Well, actually there's a there's a lot to unravel there,
uh Christopher. For a couple of things. One, yes, nailed pierced,
Uh nailed to the cross. That was I wasn't the
only one that was ever nailed to a tree across
a post. That was cruci fixion was something that predates
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my crucifixion. But if you look at the timeline, you're
talking about getting confused with Christmas and Easter and the
birth and the resurrection and all of those things. So
it's kind of hard to that's the way to say
it unravel that particular particular ball of yarn. So let's
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see the piercing. Yes, piercing didn't rise from the dead
on Christmas. Christmas, the celebration of Christmas is actually my birth.
I hope that helps I help Mark. Welcome to the
Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 8 (16:37):
I asked that a question I believe in scripture refers
to you as the only begotten son of God, and
I was wondering if that was an inference to the
physical conception with Mary and God the Father.
Speaker 4 (16:51):
What are your thoughts on that?
Speaker 2 (16:53):
Okay, So this causes people confusion because of translations. If
you go back whenever there's some sort of confusion or
you're not sure as to what the meaning might be.
There's a couple of things that are important. Context is important,
making sure that it's seated in the context of what's
being said. Also, how is that same word used? Ancient
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languages off and use things like context, same as you
do today, but they had less words than the vocabulary
of let's say English today or modern English. So if
you start to break that down and you see it
in its context, it's like mark if I said I
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was working on a table, Well, if I'm a mathematician,
it might be a mathematical table. If I'm a carpenter,
I might be making a table. If I'm working on
some art, I might be actually working on the table, drawing, painting,
doing whatever on the table. So context is important. Secondly
is to take not take the translation per se, but
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to go back and look at the actual words. So
in this case, when you go back and you look
at the actual word that's being used there. In the Greek,
it's monogenous and has two primary definitions. So the first
one to be pertaining to being the only one of
its kind within a specific relationship. Okay, So Hebrews eleven seventeen,
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for his instance, it says by faith Abraham, when he
was tested, offered up Isaac, and he who had received
the promises, was in the act of ordering up his
only son. Used the same word, but Abraham had more
than one son, so it was talking about the relationship
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was specific, not talking about only being begotten. See you
go through Leviticus, and you see so and so begot
so and so and all of these things. You start thinking, well,
then that means they gave birth to But that's not
the truth. The other usage of the word monogenous that
is translated in the King James, which is the one
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that causes the most confusion. It refers to a specific uniqueness,
a uniqueness that is one of a kind, a unique
in its kind, unique in its definition, and that's what
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is used there. It's not talking about being born or
being a God's son in the sense that I'm not God,
because it says it says differently in First John in
the beginning was the word.
Speaker 4 (19:41):
The word was with God. The word was God.
Speaker 2 (19:44):
And that's very specific as to who I was in
the context of scripture.
Speaker 4 (19:49):
So here monogenous.
Speaker 2 (19:50):
The Greek word is used to say one of a kind,
not begotten in the sense that there was a physical
birth or any of those things.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Because I've predate my birth.
Speaker 2 (20:01):
There are times they're called Christophanes in scripture where you
can find that I pre exist the physical self that
comes later in scripture.
Speaker 4 (20:12):
It is the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 1 (20:14):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Merry Christmas to you and your family. May it be
one of health and happiness and joy connecting with one
another over good food and conversation. And we have just
one more segment here, so let's get to it and
talk with Stephen.
Speaker 4 (20:37):
Stephen, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 5 (20:41):
Hello, unhappy anniversary of birth, my holy host.
Speaker 4 (20:44):
Thank you. How can I help you today, Stephen?
Speaker 5 (20:48):
Well, question regarding I guess the church history more or
less at one point in the early history of the
Church after your death, did Church determine this period to
be a holy day or a recognized day annually to
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what we know today.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
It's interesting that you asked that, because if you go
back and you really trace it, it wasn't really. There
are some that celebrate, just like there is anything, but
there was not as much interest early on as one
might think. Wasn't until the fourth century that the church
kind of formalized it. But basically the December twenty fifth
(21:33):
stuff was kind of trying to push out the robin
pagan winter solstice stuff, so like festivals like Saturnalia and
things like that, the worship being of the sun, and
they would try and kind of put that so the
feast of the Nativity and these types of things push
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that out. Christmas comes from Christ's Mass. It's an old
name for church service, for the church service, and then
you have Saint Nicholas and these things and decorations and
Carolyn came later. But if you look at early history,
you'll find that a lot of it was filled with debauchery.
I mean, there were a lot of people that celebrated,
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but you know, a bit differently. There was a lot
of drinking and things like that out in the streets
and the like. Well, let's see if we squeeze one more. Kathy,
Welcome to The Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 7 (22:31):
Oh yes, hello, good afternoon.
Speaker 1 (22:33):
Hi.
Speaker 7 (22:35):
Hi. I was wondering if it's bad to watch Fatal
Traction on Christmas Eve because, for the only reason that
it occurred at this time many years ago, and for
some reason, it gives me solace. It's kind of soothing you.
Speaker 2 (22:56):
Thank God you're not in that relationship. What's the solace?
Speaker 7 (23:04):
Well, because she gets revenge.
Speaker 2 (23:06):
Oh well, I'm not sure if revenge is healthy, but
I guess if I had to choose before between you
watching it on Christmas Eve versus Easter. If you've seen
it before, you know what I'm saying with the rabbit,
that's probably better. But I'm not crazy about the revenge
part Kathy. But no, there's nothing wrong with watching it.
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Let's see if we can squeeze one more in Joe,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (23:32):
You're the big finale. How can I help you?
Speaker 9 (23:36):
Yeah, I was just wondering, like, don't you do you
feel like it's blasphemy even maybe for you to be
speaking in you know, like if and you know you're
our Lord and savior for the first show, you know,
even though you're answering questions, but just to be speaking
in the first person.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
As if you were here.
Speaker 2 (23:52):
That's an excellent question and a great one to end on. No,
the concept of the program, if you listen to it,
is a way of teaching uniquely people about things that
are hard to talk about otherwise. And no one should
ever take credit for the words of God than God himself.
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So on this program, if you listen carefully, all glory
goes to God. All words are from God, and no
one should have their name on this show other than
Christ himself. And if you understand the interaction of let's
call it radio theater, it's a powerful tool. And may
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all the words go out in His name and no
one else's. Have a merry Christmas, be kind to each other,
have empathy, and remember the true reason of the season.
Merry Christmas.
Speaker 10 (24:54):
Everybody reach out and say, personagg Jesus. Some want a
he be some who cared, Person Jesus.
Speaker 4 (25:20):
You are listening to the Jesus Christ Show. To ask
your question, dial eight hundred five to zero one five
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