December 24, 2025 • 25 mins
The Jesus Christ Show Hour 1 (12/24) - Christmas Eve Special 2025.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Happy to be with you this Christmas Eve live as
we do every single year here on KFI. And for
John Cobelt, yeah, he takes the day off. He doesn't
talk about this much, but he uses the whole day
to try to get off the naughty list, just crams
it into one day, kind of like a Hail Mary
(00:27):
type thing. I'll due respect, that's all right. We're happy
to be here with you and we will open up
the phone. So if you have a question, theological question
dealing with God, religion, spirituality, worldviews, the Bible, or if
you're going through something, I know the holiday season can
(00:50):
bring a lot of joy, but for some it brings
pain or reminders of things from the past, whatever it
might be, give us a call eight hundred five to
zero one five three four, eight hundred five to zero
one five three four and will be with you until
four o'clock. Every year around this time, the focus is
(01:16):
on the spirit of Christmas. People say happy Holidays. The
reality is the day holiday actually means Holy Day. Holy
days were a time of spending time with your family,
connecting with your loved ones, thinking about the spiritual needs
(01:44):
and not just the physical worldly day to day life.
The power in the Holy Days comes from focusing on
things in which gratitude should be paramount. Now, gifts are lovely,
and there are those that say, well, gifts take away
(02:08):
the reason for the season, the focus on God. And
if a gift can take your eyes your spirit away
from God, then there's other problems. Be long long beyond
the gifts. We'll get into the gifts that were given
to me as a child, the reason that you are
(02:33):
celebrating the eve of christ Mass today and celebrating Christmas tomorrow.
But I want you to think about gift giving, the
purpose of it, the reason you do it. Finding those
(02:53):
special things about somebody that you want to amplify. That's
what a gift is. That's what the gifts were to me,
Amplifying what you see in that person, what you love
about that person, what you know about them. It's a
way a nod to them, going I see you, I
(03:17):
know who you are, I appreciate you. And there's power
in that. There's connectivity in gift giving when done right. Now,
there's nothing wrong with giving small little gifts to recognize
somebody that may be less personal whether it's candy or
(03:40):
cookies or because with that comes the notion of I
care enough about you, you are on my list in life.
So it's not about the grandiose gesture. It's about the
power of connection seeing other people. When you notice people
(04:01):
getting irate, you go. You're driving, You see people driving.
You go. Now the hustle and bustle of shopping. You
see people getting irate. You know what makes them irate?
There are two things in those situations. One either entitlement
(04:23):
somebody feels entitled and doesn't know why you're messing with them.
But the other one is more likely, and that is, hey,
you don't see me. You think you're more important than me,
just to smidge the entitlement, But really it's it's more, hey,
(04:44):
i'm here. You just crossed in front of me, ignoring me.
You just took my spot there. Just you're ignoring another
human being, and the desire of humans are to be
seen and to connect rightly. So that's how you were designed.
(05:04):
So there's power in gift giving and that the little
dance that goes with it, like wrapping. I'll explain more
in a moment.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You're listening to kfi Am six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I hope that you are being cozied up. As a
storm goes through the south Land, stay right here. Anything
you need to know you will hear. Any road closures
or beyond, you will hear about it here. If you
have a question, a theology question or life situation question,
anywhere that you can hear, this dial eight hundred five
(05:44):
to zero one five three four. That's eight hundred five
to zero one five three four. Time for gifts. This
season brings out gift giving and the spirit of joy
and appreciating the small things. And it doesn't matter where
they come from. I know trees and the pagan origins
(06:06):
and all these things, but the reality is that there
is joy inexperiences of family and connection. And I know
the hustle and bustle is at full blast, but ultimately,
if you think of the end results of just getting together.
We've said this before that happiness is a momentary feeling
(06:28):
of joy due to a happening. Just something happens, you
get the gift to go, oh yeah, And there's that.
But true joy comes at all times. True joy is
impenetrable by circumstances. It's not there because something is good
or bad or indifferent. It's there because it is. It's
(06:50):
the sheer appreciation of life and existence and one more
day to change or to be better, or to do
something for someone else. And it's been said many times
that Christmas is a time for non believers to feel
what believers feel on a daily basis, and that is
(07:14):
that joy that focus on those things. So back to
gifts and the importance of them. It's not about, oh,
I'm accumulating stuff. I've been giving something of worth. The
worth is not the gift. The worth is the inside
of the individual who gives it to you, what they
know about you, that you're on their list, that you're
(07:36):
important enough to be thought of. So it doesn't matter
what the gift is unless the gift ties into that.
It's like I know you, I know about you, and
here's something I know about you. Those are the best.
Even down to the wrapping, why do you well? Anticipation
(08:03):
right to enhance the significance goes back to ancient times,
shows protecting of the item. It shows care for the
desire of someone to feel. The anticipation and the unwrapping
(08:27):
as to what is what is in it? The experience
of those things, makes it delightful, makes you feel something
a little different, an experience that you wouldn't have had.
(08:48):
So what about the traditions, What about the traditions of
the three gifts given? Everybody knows about them, right, Gold,
frankencense and what a trio. So this builds up with
the magi though what are referred to as the wise
(09:11):
men or the magicians really is where that comes back
back to not followers of God in the traditional sense.
And it doesn't say that there were just three of them.
As a matter of fact, Magi is plural and there
could have been dozens. The assumption that there's three is
(09:32):
because the gifts are three. So think about those gold.
Interesting thing to give a child, ah, saving for saving,
up for life, saving up for college. No denoted kingship, royalty, frankencense.
(09:59):
It's an incense, but it's a very specific one. Franking
sense shows uh talks to divinity, spirituality, the godness of
the baby and the manger and mur even equally stranger
mr an embalming spice. How would you give that to
(10:24):
a child, a brand new baby. So muhr was used
for many things as a perfume of sorts, but often
as an embalming spice placed upon the body at death
and burial. This is said to signify my life thirty
(10:47):
three eight years later in ministry as Savior, acknowledging these
roles collectively reckoning me as a child, as King, God
and Savior. The completion, the perfection of who I was,
(11:16):
is and always will be, the prophetic significance, the tribute
of the world, All of these things, the power of
those things stated in each of those gifts, showing that
(11:36):
even those that were part of a different even a
pagan belief system like the Magi, knew something was happening,
something big, something significant, and in that shows the power
(11:58):
of what you celebrate on this Christmas Eve leading into Christmas.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I am your Holy Host, Happy to be with you
this Christmas Eve as I'm with you normally on Sunday mornings.
This is our special Christmas Eve Live that we do
every single year here on KFI. Thanks for joining us.
A Merry Christmas to you and yours. If you have
a theology question or a life situation question, give us
(12:30):
a call eight hundred five to zero one five three
four that's eight hundred five to zero one five three
four Patty, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Hi Jesus, how are you well?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I am well? How are you? How can I help
you today?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Thank you for taking my call? And I know happy
birthday for tomorrow. But that's my question. We know it
was in December. I was always of the opinion it
was during the fall because the wise men were following
the star. But then I was having a conversation with
someone recently and she actually said it was something to
(13:09):
do with the sheep and when the lambs are born,
and that's always in the spring, and the fact that
there were shepherds at your birth place. I just I
knew I could get the right answer from you because
you knew where you were born. So that's my question.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, there isn't anything that specifies specifically in scripture. It
certainly was not December. That is tied that is tied
to church stuff and other pagan holidays and the church
trying to push through those things to remain current and
(13:46):
relevant and things like that. The likelihood of it being
around September mid to late September seems to be one
of the consensus that comes from scholars looking at dealing
like you said, dealing with shepherds, because it talks about
the shepherds being in the fields, and there are certain
things that denote things that can be traced back and
(14:09):
look into as to what was going on so two
thousand plus years ago, and so in doing that, traditions
and the things that are talked about, that is where
most theologians land is sometime in mid to late September
is when they look at that. But it's the celebration
(14:32):
is the celebration, and most important is to be reminded
of the beginning, middle and end. Everything of import throughout
Scripture talks about the beginning, middle and end. The Calgary,
you know, Gessemine, the empty tomb, all these things have
(14:54):
a pattern of that beginning, middle, and ending. That's imperative
and important. And so that's the beginning is what's being celebrated.
The beginning, not of God in people's lives, not the
beginning of even a faith, but the beginning of redemption
and salvation, which could not be obtained. That's the reality,
(15:16):
it was not attainable. There are two ways really talked
about in scripture about getting into heaven, and it says,
be perfect like your father God in heaven is perfect.
Not going to happen or no. Take the blood on
the cross as the payment in full.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Amen, And I do. I appreciate you doing that for
us and making that sacrifice over two thousand years ago,
and it's just great to have you in my life.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, the wonder of that is is that that smile
that I hear and the joy that I hear when
you say those things. Praise to God that those things,
those things are seen by people around you. That is
why people will ask you to You know, there is
a presence of a person. This thought of having to
shove a belief system down someone's throat or be a
(16:14):
Bible thumper or any of those things. It's not necessary.
If there if someone was glowing green, you would look
at them and go, wow, you're glowing green. Why are
you glowing green? I mean, people will ask questions on something.
It's the shortcut, shortcut to try and force it on somebody.
(16:36):
It's another thing to live in a way, to have
an energy about you that comes from the joy that
surpasses understanding, that is in your heart and in your
life even when times are bad. That makes people want
to know about you know, Patty, what makes you tick?
Why even during tough times do you seem to have
a strength that I don't understand or I don't have,
(17:00):
or whatever it might be. And there's power in that.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Well, thank you. I really appreciate that. But I know
without you, I wouldn't be where I'm at today. And yeah,
we all have struggles, like I think I've even heard
you say in other episodes, you know, life House shark edges.
Oh yeah, but just a matter of that really, just
the wisdom and knowledge and the faith. I mean, that's
where faith comes in. You know, you can't see it.
(17:25):
You just got to know it's right and it's there
and just do what you do. So thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
You're very correct. We've said that many times about the
world having sharp edges and the fact that you cannot
nerf the world. You're going to bump into things. And Patty,
that is why having the strength and the power of
God in your corner in your life, not for Gosh,
be a genie and make nothing hurt and all that.
(17:51):
It's give me the strength the ability to look past
these things. God bless you, Patty, and Merry Christmas to
you and I love hearing that you focusing on those
things and understanding the spirit of God. And still you know,
whether you knew the date of my birth or not
(18:12):
is a curiosity and intellectual curiosity, and that's wonderful. But
it didn't matter. You still loved, You still focused on
the things of God even without that knowledge, and there's
power in that as well. Eight hundred five two zero
one five three four is the number for you to
call if you have a theology question or world views
(18:33):
the Bible, whatever might be on your mind, or if
you're going through something in life and you want to
talk about it. We call those life situations. And believe me,
situations can change good, good can go to bad, bad
can go back to good. Eight hundred five two zero
one five three four.
Speaker 1 (18:50):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
If you have a theology question or a life situation
question anywhere you can hear my voice, give me a call.
Eight hundred and five to zero one five three four.
That's eight hundred five to zero one five three four. Donald,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (19:16):
Well, thank you very much. I had a question, how
old is everything? How long ago? Was? Was creations. I
know there's a few theologians out there teaching the literal
chronology and genealogy is just a little over six thousand years.
Ye's what's the correct answer.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Okay, So those that are of the young Earth variety
in theology are incorrect the conclusions that they come to
or false on a couple of things. Ones, they're the
one they're using the genealogy, and the genealogy is not there.
They are like signposts of the genealogy. They aren't literal
(20:02):
years or generations to count down and say, okay, this
is how long the earth is. Never is it said,
never is it placed anywhere in scripture that that is
the canon the measuring rod that should be used as
to the age of the earth. Science still learns from
(20:25):
different methods of gauging and metrology, which is the study
of measuring things. So they use different types of metrology
to come to conclusions as to how old the universe
is and those things in it. So the two things
theologically that people that tend to stop people in their
(20:45):
tracks are one the period of creation that has talked
about in Genesis about the seven day mark, so the
word there in the Hebrew and the ancient Hebrew is
the same as the word that is used in Hebrew
now yom. Now yom is what you use for like
(21:08):
Yom Kippur and these types of things where you're talking
about a day. However, in the actual language, yom can
mean many things. It can mean a twenty four hour period.
It can be mean daylight, the period of daylight, which
is of course not the entirety of the day. It
can mean many things, including infinitude. Depending on its context
(21:35):
and the use of the word and where it is used,
it can mean many different things. This happens a lot
in ancient languages, especially in ancient Hebrew. Is one word
is used for many things, so it can mean you know,
(21:56):
stick or log or post or so depending on its usage.
And so. There are those that like Christian and astrophysicist
Hugh ross Out in southern California, believes that the Earth
is billions of years old, and this aligns perfectly with
(22:19):
scientific consensus, and he looks at the concept of the
progress of what they call progressive day age creationism or
Old Earth creationism. The producer of the show, Neil Savedra,
is also an Old Earth creationist, meaning that the you
(22:39):
know the time of Biblical texts ties into what is
known scientifically and does not counter that in any way,
shape or form until and only until one tries to
come up with a measurement based on something like the genealogies,
which it never says, this is the age of the
(23:00):
earth by these things. So that is something that people
have misused scripture for. But there is nothing in scripture
that says specifically that the concept of billions of years old,
the universe being billions of years old, of the Earth
being billions of years old, is contradictory. Does that happen?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Appreciate that?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Okay, you're very very welcome. Merry Christmas to you, and
I hope that that helps you understand it is. The
Bible is a fascinating work. It's not one book. It's
under one cover mostly, but it's not one book. It's
sixty six plus books to the Christian written over a
(23:51):
span of thousands of years, three different continents, three different languages,
times of peace, times of war, by kings written and
by peasants alike. And there's power in its continuity. Is
it a book of science? No? Does it contradict science? No?
(24:15):
I mean you have the concept of miracles. But science
often puts a label on a can before it understands
what's in the can, things like quarks, things like labels
that science will go, this is a thing. We don't
know what that thing is, but this is a thing.
There is something going on, some phenomenon. Because science is observational,
(24:41):
you can't observe a past singular event like creation. But
if you stood on a seven foot ladder and dropped marbles,
handful of marbles, and they hit the ground and scattered,
and you could calculate the the friction of the surface
(25:02):
in which they hit, and you could calculate the height
in which they were dropped, the weight, and the true
spherical nature of the marble, because they're not true spheres,
they have anomaly. If you could calculate all those things
and the speed in which they would slow down as
they moved out, then forensically you could look at those
(25:22):
things and then reverse the math and come to the
point where they were dropped and how high they were dropped,
and these things. So forensically, everyone is looking backwards towards
a past singular event when it comes to history of
any kind, where you don't have the modern conveniences of
logging other than writing drawings, things like that. But there
(25:46):
is nothing in scripture that says nothing that says the
Earth is six thousand years old.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
KFI AM six forty on demand
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Happy to be with you this Christmas Eve live as
we do every single year here on KFI. And for
John Cobelt, yeah, he takes the day off. He doesn't
talk about this much, but he uses the whole day
to try to get off the naughty list, just crams
it into one day, kind of like a Hail Mary
(00:27):
type thing. I'll due respect, that's all right. We're happy
to be here with you and we will open up
the phone. So if you have a question, theological question
dealing with God, religion, spirituality, worldviews, the Bible, or if
you're going through something, I know the holiday season can
(00:50):
bring a lot of joy, but for some it brings
pain or reminders of things from the past, whatever it
might be, give us a call eight hundred five to
zero one five three four, eight hundred five to zero
one five three four and will be with you until
four o'clock. Every year around this time, the focus is
(01:16):
on the spirit of Christmas. People say happy Holidays. The
reality is the day holiday actually means Holy Day. Holy
days were a time of spending time with your family,
connecting with your loved ones, thinking about the spiritual needs
(01:44):
and not just the physical worldly day to day life.
The power in the Holy Days comes from focusing on
things in which gratitude should be paramount. Now, gifts are lovely,
and there are those that say, well, gifts take away
(02:08):
the reason for the season, the focus on God. And
if a gift can take your eyes your spirit away
from God, then there's other problems. Be long long beyond
the gifts. We'll get into the gifts that were given
to me as a child, the reason that you are
(02:33):
celebrating the eve of christ Mass today and celebrating Christmas tomorrow.
But I want you to think about gift giving, the
purpose of it, the reason you do it. Finding those
(02:53):
special things about somebody that you want to amplify. That's
what a gift is. That's what the gifts were to me,
Amplifying what you see in that person, what you love
about that person, what you know about them. It's a
way a nod to them, going I see you, I
(03:17):
know who you are, I appreciate you. And there's power
in that. There's connectivity in gift giving when done right. Now,
there's nothing wrong with giving small little gifts to recognize
somebody that may be less personal whether it's candy or
(03:40):
cookies or because with that comes the notion of I
care enough about you, you are on my list in life.
So it's not about the grandiose gesture. It's about the
power of connection seeing other people. When you notice people
(04:01):
getting irate, you go. You're driving, You see people driving.
You go. Now the hustle and bustle of shopping. You
see people getting irate. You know what makes them irate?
There are two things in those situations. One either entitlement
(04:23):
somebody feels entitled and doesn't know why you're messing with them.
But the other one is more likely, and that is, hey,
you don't see me. You think you're more important than me,
just to smidge the entitlement, But really it's it's more, hey,
(04:44):
i'm here. You just crossed in front of me, ignoring me.
You just took my spot there. Just you're ignoring another
human being, and the desire of humans are to be
seen and to connect rightly. So that's how you were designed.
(05:04):
So there's power in gift giving and that the little
dance that goes with it, like wrapping. I'll explain more
in a moment.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
You're listening to kfi Am six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
I hope that you are being cozied up. As a
storm goes through the south Land, stay right here. Anything
you need to know you will hear. Any road closures
or beyond, you will hear about it here. If you
have a question, a theology question or life situation question,
anywhere that you can hear, this dial eight hundred five
(05:44):
to zero one five three four. That's eight hundred five
to zero one five three four. Time for gifts. This
season brings out gift giving and the spirit of joy
and appreciating the small things. And it doesn't matter where
they come from. I know trees and the pagan origins
(06:06):
and all these things, but the reality is that there
is joy inexperiences of family and connection. And I know
the hustle and bustle is at full blast, but ultimately,
if you think of the end results of just getting together.
We've said this before that happiness is a momentary feeling
(06:28):
of joy due to a happening. Just something happens, you
get the gift to go, oh yeah, And there's that.
But true joy comes at all times. True joy is
impenetrable by circumstances. It's not there because something is good
or bad or indifferent. It's there because it is. It's
(06:50):
the sheer appreciation of life and existence and one more
day to change or to be better, or to do
something for someone else. And it's been said many times
that Christmas is a time for non believers to feel
what believers feel on a daily basis, and that is
(07:14):
that joy that focus on those things. So back to
gifts and the importance of them. It's not about, oh,
I'm accumulating stuff. I've been giving something of worth. The
worth is not the gift. The worth is the inside
of the individual who gives it to you, what they
know about you, that you're on their list, that you're
(07:36):
important enough to be thought of. So it doesn't matter
what the gift is unless the gift ties into that.
It's like I know you, I know about you, and
here's something I know about you. Those are the best.
Even down to the wrapping, why do you well? Anticipation
(08:03):
right to enhance the significance goes back to ancient times,
shows protecting of the item. It shows care for the
desire of someone to feel. The anticipation and the unwrapping
(08:27):
as to what is what is in it? The experience
of those things, makes it delightful, makes you feel something
a little different, an experience that you wouldn't have had.
(08:48):
So what about the traditions, What about the traditions of
the three gifts given? Everybody knows about them, right, Gold,
frankencense and what a trio. So this builds up with
the magi though what are referred to as the wise
(09:11):
men or the magicians really is where that comes back
back to not followers of God in the traditional sense.
And it doesn't say that there were just three of them.
As a matter of fact, Magi is plural and there
could have been dozens. The assumption that there's three is
(09:32):
because the gifts are three. So think about those gold.
Interesting thing to give a child, ah, saving for saving,
up for life, saving up for college. No denoted kingship, royalty, frankencense.
(09:59):
It's an incense, but it's a very specific one. Franking
sense shows uh talks to divinity, spirituality, the godness of
the baby and the manger and mur even equally stranger
mr an embalming spice. How would you give that to
(10:24):
a child, a brand new baby. So muhr was used
for many things as a perfume of sorts, but often
as an embalming spice placed upon the body at death
and burial. This is said to signify my life thirty
(10:47):
three eight years later in ministry as Savior, acknowledging these
roles collectively reckoning me as a child, as King, God
and Savior. The completion, the perfection of who I was,
(11:16):
is and always will be, the prophetic significance, the tribute
of the world, All of these things, the power of
those things stated in each of those gifts, showing that
(11:36):
even those that were part of a different even a
pagan belief system like the Magi, knew something was happening,
something big, something significant, and in that shows the power
(11:58):
of what you celebrate on this Christmas Eve leading into Christmas.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
I am your Holy Host, Happy to be with you
this Christmas Eve as I'm with you normally on Sunday mornings.
This is our special Christmas Eve Live that we do
every single year here on KFI. Thanks for joining us.
A Merry Christmas to you and yours. If you have
a theology question or a life situation question, give us
(12:30):
a call eight hundred five to zero one five three
four that's eight hundred five to zero one five three
four Patty, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (12:42):
Hi Jesus, how are you well?
Speaker 2 (12:44):
I am well? How are you? How can I help
you today?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Thank you for taking my call? And I know happy
birthday for tomorrow. But that's my question. We know it
was in December. I was always of the opinion it
was during the fall because the wise men were following
the star. But then I was having a conversation with
someone recently and she actually said it was something to
(13:09):
do with the sheep and when the lambs are born,
and that's always in the spring, and the fact that
there were shepherds at your birth place. I just I
knew I could get the right answer from you because
you knew where you were born. So that's my question.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Well, there isn't anything that specifies specifically in scripture. It
certainly was not December. That is tied that is tied
to church stuff and other pagan holidays and the church
trying to push through those things to remain current and
(13:46):
relevant and things like that. The likelihood of it being
around September mid to late September seems to be one
of the consensus that comes from scholars looking at dealing
like you said, dealing with shepherds, because it talks about
the shepherds being in the fields, and there are certain
things that denote things that can be traced back and
(14:09):
look into as to what was going on so two
thousand plus years ago, and so in doing that, traditions
and the things that are talked about, that is where
most theologians land is sometime in mid to late September
is when they look at that. But it's the celebration
(14:32):
is the celebration, and most important is to be reminded
of the beginning, middle and end. Everything of import throughout
Scripture talks about the beginning, middle and end. The Calgary,
you know, Gessemine, the empty tomb, all these things have
(14:54):
a pattern of that beginning, middle, and ending. That's imperative
and important. And so that's the beginning is what's being celebrated.
The beginning, not of God in people's lives, not the
beginning of even a faith, but the beginning of redemption
and salvation, which could not be obtained. That's the reality,
(15:16):
it was not attainable. There are two ways really talked
about in scripture about getting into heaven, and it says,
be perfect like your father God in heaven is perfect.
Not going to happen or no. Take the blood on
the cross as the payment in full.
Speaker 3 (15:40):
Amen, And I do. I appreciate you doing that for
us and making that sacrifice over two thousand years ago,
and it's just great to have you in my life.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
Well, the wonder of that is is that that smile
that I hear and the joy that I hear when
you say those things. Praise to God that those things,
those things are seen by people around you. That is
why people will ask you to You know, there is
a presence of a person. This thought of having to
shove a belief system down someone's throat or be a
(16:14):
Bible thumper or any of those things. It's not necessary.
If there if someone was glowing green, you would look
at them and go, wow, you're glowing green. Why are
you glowing green? I mean, people will ask questions on something.
It's the shortcut, shortcut to try and force it on somebody.
(16:36):
It's another thing to live in a way, to have
an energy about you that comes from the joy that
surpasses understanding, that is in your heart and in your
life even when times are bad. That makes people want
to know about you know, Patty, what makes you tick?
Why even during tough times do you seem to have
a strength that I don't understand or I don't have,
(17:00):
or whatever it might be. And there's power in that.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Well, thank you. I really appreciate that. But I know
without you, I wouldn't be where I'm at today. And yeah,
we all have struggles, like I think I've even heard
you say in other episodes, you know, life House shark edges.
Oh yeah, but just a matter of that really, just
the wisdom and knowledge and the faith. I mean, that's
where faith comes in. You know, you can't see it.
(17:25):
You just got to know it's right and it's there
and just do what you do. So thank you.
Speaker 2 (17:29):
You're very correct. We've said that many times about the
world having sharp edges and the fact that you cannot
nerf the world. You're going to bump into things. And Patty,
that is why having the strength and the power of
God in your corner in your life, not for Gosh,
be a genie and make nothing hurt and all that.
(17:51):
It's give me the strength the ability to look past
these things. God bless you, Patty, and Merry Christmas to
you and I love hearing that you focusing on those
things and understanding the spirit of God. And still you know,
whether you knew the date of my birth or not
(18:12):
is a curiosity and intellectual curiosity, and that's wonderful. But
it didn't matter. You still loved, You still focused on
the things of God even without that knowledge, and there's
power in that as well. Eight hundred five two zero
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Speaker 4 (19:16):
Well, thank you very much. I had a question, how
old is everything? How long ago? Was? Was creations. I
know there's a few theologians out there teaching the literal
chronology and genealogy is just a little over six thousand years.
Ye's what's the correct answer.
Speaker 2 (19:36):
Okay, So those that are of the young Earth variety
in theology are incorrect the conclusions that they come to
or false on a couple of things. Ones, they're the
one they're using the genealogy, and the genealogy is not there.
They are like signposts of the genealogy. They aren't literal
(20:02):
years or generations to count down and say, okay, this
is how long the earth is. Never is it said,
never is it placed anywhere in scripture that that is
the canon the measuring rod that should be used as
to the age of the earth. Science still learns from
(20:25):
different methods of gauging and metrology, which is the study
of measuring things. So they use different types of metrology
to come to conclusions as to how old the universe
is and those things in it. So the two things
theologically that people that tend to stop people in their
(20:45):
tracks are one the period of creation that has talked
about in Genesis about the seven day mark, so the
word there in the Hebrew and the ancient Hebrew is
the same as the word that is used in Hebrew
now yom. Now yom is what you use for like
(21:08):
Yom Kippur and these types of things where you're talking
about a day. However, in the actual language, yom can
mean many things. It can mean a twenty four hour period.
It can be mean daylight, the period of daylight, which
is of course not the entirety of the day. It
can mean many things, including infinitude. Depending on its context
(21:35):
and the use of the word and where it is used,
it can mean many different things. This happens a lot
in ancient languages, especially in ancient Hebrew. Is one word
is used for many things, so it can mean you know,
(21:56):
stick or log or post or so depending on its usage.
And so. There are those that like Christian and astrophysicist
Hugh ross Out in southern California, believes that the Earth
is billions of years old, and this aligns perfectly with
(22:19):
scientific consensus, and he looks at the concept of the
progress of what they call progressive day age creationism or
Old Earth creationism. The producer of the show, Neil Savedra,
is also an Old Earth creationist, meaning that the you
(22:39):
know the time of Biblical texts ties into what is
known scientifically and does not counter that in any way,
shape or form until and only until one tries to
come up with a measurement based on something like the genealogies,
which it never says, this is the age of the
(23:00):
earth by these things. So that is something that people
have misused scripture for. But there is nothing in scripture
that says specifically that the concept of billions of years old,
the universe being billions of years old, of the Earth
being billions of years old, is contradictory. Does that happen?
Speaker 4 (23:27):
Appreciate that?
Speaker 2 (23:28):
Okay, you're very very welcome. Merry Christmas to you, and
I hope that that helps you understand it is. The
Bible is a fascinating work. It's not one book. It's
under one cover mostly, but it's not one book. It's
sixty six plus books to the Christian written over a
(23:51):
span of thousands of years, three different continents, three different languages,
times of peace, times of war, by kings written and
by peasants alike. And there's power in its continuity. Is
it a book of science? No? Does it contradict science? No?
(24:15):
I mean you have the concept of miracles. But science
often puts a label on a can before it understands
what's in the can, things like quarks, things like labels
that science will go, this is a thing. We don't
know what that thing is, but this is a thing.
There is something going on, some phenomenon. Because science is observational,
(24:41):
you can't observe a past singular event like creation. But
if you stood on a seven foot ladder and dropped marbles,
handful of marbles, and they hit the ground and scattered,
and you could calculate the the friction of the surface
(25:02):
in which they hit, and you could calculate the height
in which they were dropped, the weight, and the true
spherical nature of the marble, because they're not true spheres,
they have anomaly. If you could calculate all those things
and the speed in which they would slow down as
they moved out, then forensically you could look at those
(25:22):
things and then reverse the math and come to the
point where they were dropped and how high they were dropped,
and these things. So forensically, everyone is looking backwards towards
a past singular event when it comes to history of
any kind, where you don't have the modern conveniences of
logging other than writing drawings, things like that. But there
(25:46):
is nothing in scripture that says nothing that says the
Earth is six thousand years old.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
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