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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. It's
the simple things. It's the simple things you remember that
are helpful. It's the simple things that you forget. It
could be damaging. I want you to think about how
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when you interact with people on a daily basis, when
you come to know someone, even if it's just for
a few moments, why do they stick out to you?
What makes them stand above others? What are the little
things that they do, say, how they act that set
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them apart. All throughout scriptures there is examples, life, examples
for you to see how people lived. Some of it
is describing how they live, not prescribing it, meaning that
it's just saying, hey, this is what took place, this
is what happened, doesn't mean you should necessarily do it.
And then other parts show what you know when somebody
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acted or interacted in a particular way and says this,
this is the way I want you to see it,
this is the way I want you to do it.
I've been asked so many times about very different parts
of scripture. What about this one? Why was that in there?
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Or I don't understand how come this was put in there?
The Bible is a narrative, a narrative with great purpose,
and that great purpose is to bring understanding and enlightenment
towards your relationships interacting with God, interacting with man. And
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look for that, look for that nugget in there. That's
what you're looking for. To find those things, Unfortunately, they
often get kind of read over. You're looking for the
verses you remember, or you're looking for the verses that
seem to stand out, or I don't know taut a
particular cause, and you like those. But I want you
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to see scripture in its entirety and the beauty that
it breathes forth by by just its simplicity. In chapter
seventeen of Luke, you'll find a story starting on verse ten,
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and it will have a header or something along the
likes of Christ cleanses ten lepers. And that seems to
be a running theme, right. People are cleansed, people are healed,
the lame walk, the blind sea, the deaf. Here all
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wonderful things. But there's something interesting about those whom were lepros.
And in this particular story, it points out an actual
happening and exchange, and I want you to hear it
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verse eleven, and it came about while he was on
the way to Jerusalem, that he was passing between Samaria
and Galilee, and he entered a certain village. Ten leprous
men who stood at the distance, met him, and they
raised their voices, saying, Jesus Master, have mercy on us.
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And when he saw them, he said to them, go
and show yourselves to the priests. And it came about
that as they were going, they were cleansed. You see,
the mere act of responding to what I had asked
of them, the mere act of me saying this is
what you should do. By doing that, by being obedient,
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the cleansing had already been done. You know, there's so
much analysis that goes into these things, and people start
looking and saying, well, oh, so was it. They turned around,
and then they were going to go was it? What
did the priests have to do it? So they were
gonna go and show themselves to the priests, and the
priest was gonna And what did the priest know? It
was just the obedience, their obedience that brought forth their cleansing.
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And it came about as they were going they were cleansed.
Now listen to this next part in verse fifteen, now
one of them. When he saw that he had been healed,
he turned back, glorifying God with a loud voice, and
he fell on his face and his feet, giving thanks
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to him. He happened to be a Samaritan. And I
answered him that day, I said, where where's everyone else?
Weren't there ten lepers that were just cleansed? But the nine?
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Where are they? Was no one found who turned back
to give glory to God except this one, this one foreigner.
And I looked at him and I said, rise, go
on your way. Your faith has made you well. It
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was that act. But the beauty of this is not
just a miracle. You can get lost in miracles in scripture.
They're wonderful, beautiful, they're supernatural. They take the strength and
power of God. I can see why you're enamored with them.
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But in Luke's seventeen, starting in verse eleven, as it
talks about these ten leprous men, it's there to point
out something more important than just their healing. It's pointing
out only one out of ten came back to thank
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only one one of them came back to thank me.
And on top of that, it was the foreigner, was
the non believer, per se and how that translates to life.
That often it is those that don't believe they kind
of put you to shame with what they do, how
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they interact, and the simplicity of gratitude, just saying thank you,
I appreciate it. It costs nothing. And I want to
get you in that mindset this morning, the mindset of
the Samaritan, this leprous Samaritan that out of a group
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of ten, was the only to turn back when healed
to say thank you. Now, of course he's giving glory
to God as well he should. But God has designed creation,
and you interact with creation as well, every single day.
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And what I want from you is to find yourself
a place of consistency in your gratitude that you don't
just say it. Because I've seen those empty eyes. You
kind of grab the bag off of the counter where
you just purchased something and you say thank you, and
your eyes barely glance them and it's just from wrote,
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it's just from memory, but it's not from your heart.
I don't mean to act as if there's got to
be some weepy moment at a grocery store. That's not
my point, but to find to appreciate the things that
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you have to appreciate when something's done for you, to
get in that mode of appreciation, to always go back
and think, to always take a moment. I know things
have changed people right on internet, on the internet versus
and doing email versus a handwritten note. And you'll have
to gauge that as it pertains. But just don't forget,
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don't let it fall by the wayside. It's imperative to
live with a generous heart. Alan, Welcome to the Jesus
Christ Show.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Hello, I have a I had like a miracle happened
to me about forty plus years ago, and I want
to know if it was a miracle. Maybe you don't know,
but maybe it will give people some hope to call
into your show. I was at March or March No
No Lake Paris and my buddy said I'm going to
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swim out there to that island, and I said, okay,
I'm too, and he took off way ahead of me,
and I was way out there and the water got
real choppy, the wind picked up the I don't know
if the shore porte or the clothes guard told everybody,
all the boats to get off the lake. I could
barely see the shore and I was going to die.
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And here comes all of the odds, this rubber kids,
like a rubber duck with a Dutch hat on it
and floating by me. I mean, what are the odds?
And I just grabbed it and I was alive. And
what's that a miracle?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Is that a rubber duck floated up to you?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It was? It was a child's slowly it had a
duck's hit on it, like Donald duck, like an enter two.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Got it. And this was a public place.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It was, yes, a public lake, Yes, yes it is,
and it was it's a big lake, lake Paris. And
I'm not that good of a swimmer. I wasn't that
good of a swimmer. And I thought I was.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But well, what what do you think it means?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Wait, you won't let me leave this service? For sure?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Well not yet. I think I think it's wonderful that
you were able to survive that situation. Miracles have to
have a purpose. Now, a miracles is a powerful thing.
In scripture, it's referred to as signs and wonders. Yes,
and they had a particular purpose, and that was to
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glorify God or to point towards God and to separate
specifically me from everyone else that was claiming to be
God or the Masshikh, the Messiah at the time, because
on every corner somebody was claiming it. So they had
a very specific purpose. I'm not sure what the specific
purpose of a rober ducky kid's floating device floating up
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to you would be. However, that's pretty wonderful that it
took place. Yes, the likelihood, if you want me to
actually break down the mathematical odds, I don't know that
we have the time to do that, but the mathematical
odds are actually halfway decent that at a public place
that sees probably hundreds of thousands of people and children,
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of which are many are children like that would have
the possibility maybe even the probability of coming across the
floating But regardless, it's a pretty wonderful thing that it
took place and that we are able to have this
conversation Allan, and that you're okay. So if it was
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a miracle in the true sense, it would it's miraculous
people use a miracle with the mathematical probability, Wow, that
was not likely that that would happen. That's not exactly
what a miracle is. A miracle is something that really
points to the Father and you can't take it away
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from you. Maybe there was a connection or something that
God was doing with you, But a miracle, a true miracle,
should be something that speaks to the overall community of Christ.
And I'm not sure that that fits into that category.
But boy, it sure was a pretty wonderful thing to happen,
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I'll tell you that much. Clinton. Welcome to the Jesus
Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Hey, good morning, How are you.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I am well? How are you? Sir?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Well? I could be better? You know, I had a
two part question for you. Okay, going through service and whatnot.
You know, I've been hearing the pastors always saying, you know,
the second Coming of U.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
K.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
And but you know what, in going through the passages
and whatnot, I had read that that, Okay, that just
came down to visited Abraham, and then I figured that's
that's the first step, and then then the birth and
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you know, Bethlehem and then also after the resurrection coming
back down the visit Mary and and whatnot. I'm wondering,
you know, when when the phrase comes around for for
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the second Coming, how.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
How I mean, are you trying to say that there's
more than I've been here multiple times? Not, it won't
just be the second time. Well, because the eight when
you get into the Old Testament stuff, you're dealing with
something called a theophony or a christophany, and that's the
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appearance of Me prior to birth. That's that's different. That's different.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Now I'm now I'm wondering. You know, I had been
reading that that the next time that our Lord comes down, Uh,
it's going to be in through Uh, like in Revelations,
you know, where it's I judgment, Yes.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And then in the Book of Revelation, it talks about
the second Coming. And that's that's post that's post resurrection.
It's not counting every single time. Uh, it's talking about
post resurrection and uh, ascending into heaven. It's talking about
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coming back again after that. I know that that does
sound a little confusing, but that's that's the reality. It's
based on on that. Not every appearance dealing with like
I said, the pre incarnate Christ, which is called a christophany,
and those are times that prior to birth in the flesh,
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that the Sun, the second person of the Trinity, has
appeared in scripture in one form or the other, but
that's not counted in the same way, in the same sense. Mary,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Hi, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I'm Mary. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Well, I have cancer and I've been fighting it for
like fifteen years, and there's really nothing more medically that
can be done. And I just I really yearn just
to be with God and my you know, my family
and friends are like, you need to pray, order, you
need to try harder, and I just I feel like
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this time for me is over. Is that wrong to
feel that way?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, not to feel that way to act upon it
would be a problem to give up at any time. Well,
let's look at this for a moment. You said it's
something that you have fought for fifteen years. Would you
have stopped fighting fifteen years ago?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Okay, So we're the last fifteen years of value? Yes, okay.
So it is to say that the next leg, however
long it will be, won't have value.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Well, if I know that the next leg.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Is very limited, then I know it's just.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I mean, I maybe I don't know, Maybe I shouldn't
say I know.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
But.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I happen to be a medical professional as well, so
I kind of know that. You know the next part
of this, I just I'm tired of people telling me
to fight. I don't think I have any more fights.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Well, then don't fight. Live You're not your illness. Your
illness is a privation. It's something that is a battle
for sure. But if you don't want to fight, don't fight,
but live. Just live. The only the only issue is
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that every day, whether you know it or not, your
body is in a battle to thrive and survive every day.
The only difference is you have a name for your
enemy now and you're looking the enemy in the eye.
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But the body dealing with first and second laws of thermodynamics.
The body is fighting decay every day. Every person life
is an illness it is it is fighting the decay
and the breakdown every day. The difference is the intensity
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level when you have an illness like yours and that
you know its name and that you're staring it in
the face. There are people that want to give up
and do with just day to day life, and I
realize that the severity of battling cancer is much different
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and going through different regiments of you know, drugs or
treatments or whatever it might be, even going to see
the doctor regularly. But let me tell you something. As
a medical professional, you know this. Doctors, nurses, medical professionals
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cannot tell you what's going to happen. They can only
tell you what they've seen before. And there is something
in that fight that ultimately helps everyone, whether it's to
see somebody experience it in a new way, or respond
to differently to treatments. So there's actual learning and understanding.
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Every time you go through a treatment, you're adding to
the knowledge of science and to the experiential of the
fund of experience that doctors, scientists, and professionals have about
what this cancer does to people. And in doing that,
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you are building a case not only for your own illness,
but for other people with that illness for future experiences.
And if you bow out and you say, hey, I
don't want to be a part of this experiment called life,
then it's not just about you. Everything you're experiencing will
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help or generate knowledge that will help other people as
well in the future. And uh, you know, beyond just you.
And that's a very powerful thing, and it's a lot
to put on you. I realize. But you're calling me
for a broader perspective of the situation, and I'm going
to give it to you. There's a lot going on
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here that's not just about you.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Unfortunately it stinks because you're going to experience this, but
everyone will experience some illness, everyone will experience death, everyone
will experience decay. You're battling yours, but I mean, when
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when do you When do you stop fighting for life? Ever?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I guess I just it's not that I don't love
my life.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I do.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I love everyone in my life, but I also know
that there's something that comes after this, and I sort
of yearn for that, and I maybe maybe I'm just tired.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
All legitimate and all true. Of course, to yearn for
those things are great. But if you're yearning for those things,
it's because you believe in God, right right, Okay, because
that's what the promise is in the afterlife. And if
you believe in God, then you have to believe God
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has the power and all these things, and you have
to believe that God is saying I need you here
for whatever reason. You can't really have one without the other. Now,
there is a difference, and I want to make this
very clear, because a lot of people politicize these things
and then they get lost and they don't understand there
is a difference between saving lives and prolonging death. I'm
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not asking you to prolong death. You know these people
that go on and do all these things, and while
I think I saw them blink or I saw this
or whatever. It's like, if you're prolonging someone's death and
they're just they're dying, and medicine and machines can make
them look alive, that's different. But you are vibrant and
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smart and attentive and present, and you have more to do.
And I don't know if it's writing. I don't know
if you like to write. I don't know if there's
something you should put to paper, if there's thoughts about this,
things that can comfort, if there's something you can do
to help others that are in even more dire situation
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when things start to get go ahead.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
It's funny you say that because I have a homeless
outreach that I've sort of been bowing out of a
little bit. Maybe I shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Maybe That's what I'm supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I don't know if you can't do something for yourself,
then do it for others. There is a point in which,
especially when people are very focused on themselves and you
kind of have to be with what you're going through,
then to focus on others changes your perspective because when
you're looking about it just as yourself, I get it.
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You may go in, Hey, you know, for me, I'm done,
but maybe you're not done for others. Maybe that's there's
other things, And I say maybe, but the reality is
definitely because God has you here, God wants you here.
God can take you home at any time. But he's saying,
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you know, Mary, honey, I have a plan, and I'm
sorry that it involves your pain, but I assure you everything.
In scripture, Mary talks about life being a mist, life
being temporary, life being momentary, you know, in compare into
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the eternity that waits Tewod Corinthians four seventeen eighteen. For
this light momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternity,
an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison. As we
look not to the things that are seen, but to
the things that are unseen. For the things that are
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seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal,
and right now, God says, you're here, honey, and there's
work to be done. And as long as you are
pulling a breath, that very breath that I breathed into Adam,
that I breathed into Eve, as long as you're pulling
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that breath, I need you to glorify God.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
You know, I have to.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Thank you because he said absolutely nothing that I thought
you would say and really gave me a shift in perspective.
So I have to thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Well, You're welcome, and I hope that you you see
the value that God sees in you to pull that
breath for now and fight that fight, not just for
yourself but for others. And I'm sorry that you're going
through this. I know that there is even though there
are similar attributes that people other people experience, every person
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experiences an illness, even though it has the same name,
experiences it differently because of their family, because of their
you know, their strength, partners in life, whatever it might be.
And so this is yours. I get that, and I'm
sorry that you're going through it. But I'm telling you
God is God is saying, honey, you're here until you're here,
and I need you to participate as long as you're here,
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and you should do normal fighting. You don't you know,
you don't have to do anything abnormal, do the normal
procedures to keep you to to save your life, not
to prolong your death. And you sound vibrant, and you
sound healthy, and you sound together, and the world deserves
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to have that here for as long as they can.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Okay, I think I'll take your advice.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Thank you so much for calling. I really appreciate it, Marian,
and you will be in my prayers. I know that
that is an intense battle, and I pray that you
see why God has you here and what good you
could be doing while you are here, you know, interestingly enough,
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just so you know the power of experiencing things and
others being touched by them. As we chatted with Mary
and talked about cancer and her illness and her desire
or lack thereof, to fight, sometimes we were bombarded with
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calls of sympathy, empathy and the like from people just listening.
Maybe they're going through it. There were people in tears saying,
you know, I'm experiencing that, or I understand that, or
I've been there, or those types of things, and so Mary,
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you are not alone at all. You know, God is
more interested in you than you believe. I know sometimes
you may feel insignificant or just a tiny part of things.
But every star, every drop in the ocean, everything is
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purposely placed by God for balance and structure of how
this place works before you go to the next place.
In Matthew ten, verse thirty, it says, but the very
hairs of your head are all numbered. Now, in the
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case of producer Neil, that's not really difficult. But for
people with hair, that's a pretty amazing stat talking about
God knowing and therefore caring about even the hairs on
your head. And with that comes purpose, and with purpose
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comes execution of that purpose, living, living to see those
things through whatever God has for you, whatever God asks
of you. To glorify God. Your value is not just
being shiny and new as you go through life, life
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being really just a series of decay. You have purpose.
God wants you to see that purpose through, to shine
as bright as you can for as long as you can,
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and in that it will shine upon and point to
the glory of God. Kf I am sixty on demand
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand. It's
the simple things. It's the simple things you remember that
are helpful. It's the simple things that you forget. It
could be damaging. I want you to think about how
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when you interact with people on a daily basis, when
you come to know someone, even if it's just for
a few moments, why do they stick out to you?
What makes them stand above others? What are the little
things that they do, say, how they act that set
(00:44):
them apart. All throughout scriptures there is examples, life, examples
for you to see how people lived. Some of it
is describing how they live, not prescribing it, meaning that
it's just saying, hey, this is what took place, this
is what happened, doesn't mean you should necessarily do it.
And then other parts show what you know when somebody
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acted or interacted in a particular way and says this,
this is the way I want you to see it,
this is the way I want you to do it.
I've been asked so many times about very different parts
of scripture. What about this one? Why was that in there?
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Or I don't understand how come this was put in there?
The Bible is a narrative, a narrative with great purpose,
and that great purpose is to bring understanding and enlightenment
towards your relationships interacting with God, interacting with man. And
(01:52):
look for that, look for that nugget in there. That's
what you're looking for. To find those things, Unfortunately, they
often get kind of read over. You're looking for the
verses you remember, or you're looking for the verses that
seem to stand out, or I don't know taut a
particular cause, and you like those. But I want you
(02:17):
to see scripture in its entirety and the beauty that
it breathes forth by by just its simplicity. In chapter
seventeen of Luke, you'll find a story starting on verse ten,
(02:38):
and it will have a header or something along the
likes of Christ cleanses ten lepers. And that seems to
be a running theme, right. People are cleansed, people are healed,
the lame walk, the blind sea, the deaf. Here all
(02:58):
wonderful things. But there's something interesting about those whom were lepros.
And in this particular story, it points out an actual
happening and exchange, and I want you to hear it
(03:21):
verse eleven, and it came about while he was on
the way to Jerusalem, that he was passing between Samaria
and Galilee, and he entered a certain village. Ten leprous
men who stood at the distance, met him, and they
raised their voices, saying, Jesus Master, have mercy on us.
(03:46):
And when he saw them, he said to them, go
and show yourselves to the priests. And it came about
that as they were going, they were cleansed. You see,
the mere act of responding to what I had asked
of them, the mere act of me saying this is
what you should do. By doing that, by being obedient,
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the cleansing had already been done. You know, there's so
much analysis that goes into these things, and people start
looking and saying, well, oh, so was it. They turned around,
and then they were going to go was it? What
did the priests have to do it? So they were
gonna go and show themselves to the priests, and the
priest was gonna And what did the priest know? It
was just the obedience, their obedience that brought forth their cleansing.
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And it came about as they were going they were cleansed.
Now listen to this next part in verse fifteen, now
one of them. When he saw that he had been healed,
he turned back, glorifying God with a loud voice, and
he fell on his face and his feet, giving thanks
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to him. He happened to be a Samaritan. And I
answered him that day, I said, where where's everyone else?
Weren't there ten lepers that were just cleansed? But the nine?
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Where are they? Was no one found who turned back
to give glory to God except this one, this one foreigner.
And I looked at him and I said, rise, go
on your way. Your faith has made you well. It
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was that act. But the beauty of this is not
just a miracle. You can get lost in miracles in scripture.
They're wonderful, beautiful, they're supernatural. They take the strength and
power of God. I can see why you're enamored with them.
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But in Luke's seventeen, starting in verse eleven, as it
talks about these ten leprous men, it's there to point
out something more important than just their healing. It's pointing
out only one out of ten came back to thank
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only one one of them came back to thank me.
And on top of that, it was the foreigner, was
the non believer, per se and how that translates to life.
That often it is those that don't believe they kind
of put you to shame with what they do, how
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they interact, and the simplicity of gratitude, just saying thank you,
I appreciate it. It costs nothing. And I want to
get you in that mindset this morning, the mindset of
the Samaritan, this leprous Samaritan that out of a group
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of ten, was the only to turn back when healed
to say thank you. Now, of course he's giving glory
to God as well he should. But God has designed creation,
and you interact with creation as well, every single day.
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And what I want from you is to find yourself
a place of consistency in your gratitude that you don't
just say it. Because I've seen those empty eyes. You
kind of grab the bag off of the counter where
you just purchased something and you say thank you, and
your eyes barely glance them and it's just from wrote,
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it's just from memory, but it's not from your heart.
I don't mean to act as if there's got to
be some weepy moment at a grocery store. That's not
my point, but to find to appreciate the things that
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you have to appreciate when something's done for you, to
get in that mode of appreciation, to always go back
and think, to always take a moment. I know things
have changed people right on internet, on the internet versus
and doing email versus a handwritten note. And you'll have
to gauge that as it pertains. But just don't forget,
(08:52):
don't let it fall by the wayside. It's imperative to
live with a generous heart. Alan, Welcome to the Jesus
Christ Show.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Hello, I have a I had like a miracle happened
to me about forty plus years ago, and I want
to know if it was a miracle. Maybe you don't know,
but maybe it will give people some hope to call
into your show. I was at March or March No
No Lake Paris and my buddy said I'm going to
(09:27):
swim out there to that island, and I said, okay,
I'm too, and he took off way ahead of me,
and I was way out there and the water got
real choppy, the wind picked up the I don't know
if the shore porte or the clothes guard told everybody,
all the boats to get off the lake. I could
barely see the shore and I was going to die.
(09:49):
And here comes all of the odds, this rubber kids,
like a rubber duck with a Dutch hat on it
and floating by me. I mean, what are the odds?
And I just grabbed it and I was alive. And
what's that a miracle?
Speaker 1 (10:07):
Is that a rubber duck floated up to you?
Speaker 2 (10:09):
It was? It was a child's slowly it had a
duck's hit on it, like Donald duck, like an enter two.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Got it. And this was a public place.
Speaker 2 (10:24):
It was, yes, a public lake, Yes, yes it is,
and it was it's a big lake, lake Paris. And
I'm not that good of a swimmer. I wasn't that
good of a swimmer. And I thought I was.
Speaker 1 (10:38):
But well, what what do you think it means?
Speaker 2 (10:43):
Wait, you won't let me leave this service? For sure?
Speaker 1 (10:47):
Well not yet. I think I think it's wonderful that
you were able to survive that situation. Miracles have to
have a purpose. Now, a miracles is a powerful thing.
In scripture, it's referred to as signs and wonders. Yes,
and they had a particular purpose, and that was to
(11:08):
glorify God or to point towards God and to separate
specifically me from everyone else that was claiming to be
God or the Masshikh, the Messiah at the time, because
on every corner somebody was claiming it. So they had
a very specific purpose. I'm not sure what the specific
purpose of a rober ducky kid's floating device floating up
(11:31):
to you would be. However, that's pretty wonderful that it
took place. Yes, the likelihood, if you want me to
actually break down the mathematical odds, I don't know that
we have the time to do that, but the mathematical
odds are actually halfway decent that at a public place
that sees probably hundreds of thousands of people and children,
(11:56):
of which are many are children like that would have
the possibility maybe even the probability of coming across the
floating But regardless, it's a pretty wonderful thing that it
took place and that we are able to have this
conversation Allan, and that you're okay. So if it was
(12:20):
a miracle in the true sense, it would it's miraculous
people use a miracle with the mathematical probability, Wow, that
was not likely that that would happen. That's not exactly
what a miracle is. A miracle is something that really
points to the Father and you can't take it away
(12:41):
from you. Maybe there was a connection or something that
God was doing with you, But a miracle, a true miracle,
should be something that speaks to the overall community of Christ.
And I'm not sure that that fits into that category.
But boy, it sure was a pretty wonderful thing to happen,
(13:03):
I'll tell you that much. Clinton. Welcome to the Jesus
Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
Hey, good morning, How are you.
Speaker 1 (13:12):
I am well? How are you? Sir?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Well? I could be better? You know, I had a
two part question for you. Okay, going through service and whatnot.
You know, I've been hearing the pastors always saying, you know,
the second Coming of U.
Speaker 1 (13:31):
K.
Speaker 3 (13:32):
And but you know what, in going through the passages
and whatnot, I had read that that, Okay, that just
came down to visited Abraham, and then I figured that's
that's the first step, and then then the birth and
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you know, Bethlehem and then also after the resurrection coming
back down the visit Mary and and whatnot. I'm wondering,
you know, when when the phrase comes around for for
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the second Coming, how.
Speaker 1 (14:19):
How I mean, are you trying to say that there's
more than I've been here multiple times? Not, it won't
just be the second time. Well, because the eight when
you get into the Old Testament stuff, you're dealing with
something called a theophony or a christophany, and that's the
(14:40):
appearance of Me prior to birth. That's that's different. That's different.
Speaker 3 (14:45):
Now I'm now I'm wondering. You know, I had been
reading that that the next time that our Lord comes down, Uh,
it's going to be in through Uh, like in Revelations,
you know, where it's I judgment, Yes.
Speaker 1 (15:09):
And then in the Book of Revelation, it talks about
the second Coming. And that's that's post that's post resurrection.
It's not counting every single time. Uh, it's talking about
post resurrection and uh, ascending into heaven. It's talking about
(15:31):
coming back again after that. I know that that does
sound a little confusing, but that's that's the reality. It's
based on on that. Not every appearance dealing with like
I said, the pre incarnate Christ, which is called a christophany,
and those are times that prior to birth in the flesh,
(15:51):
that the Sun, the second person of the Trinity, has
appeared in scripture in one form or the other, but
that's not counted in the same way, in the same sense. Mary,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (16:09):
Hi, thank you for taking my call.
Speaker 1 (16:11):
I'm Mary. What's going on?
Speaker 4 (16:14):
Well, I have cancer and I've been fighting it for
like fifteen years, and there's really nothing more medically that
can be done. And I just I really yearn just
to be with God and my you know, my family
and friends are like, you need to pray, order, you
need to try harder, and I just I feel like
(16:35):
this time for me is over. Is that wrong to
feel that way?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Well, not to feel that way to act upon it
would be a problem to give up at any time. Well,
let's look at this for a moment. You said it's
something that you have fought for fifteen years. Would you
have stopped fighting fifteen years ago?
Speaker 2 (17:00):
No?
Speaker 1 (17:00):
Okay, So we're the last fifteen years of value? Yes, okay.
So it is to say that the next leg, however
long it will be, won't have value.
Speaker 4 (17:14):
Well, if I know that the next leg.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
Is very limited, then I know it's just.
Speaker 4 (17:20):
I mean, I maybe I don't know, Maybe I shouldn't
say I know.
Speaker 2 (17:24):
But.
Speaker 4 (17:26):
I happen to be a medical professional as well, so
I kind of know that. You know the next part
of this, I just I'm tired of people telling me
to fight. I don't think I have any more fights.
Speaker 1 (17:39):
Well, then don't fight. Live You're not your illness. Your
illness is a privation. It's something that is a battle
for sure. But if you don't want to fight, don't fight,
but live. Just live. The only the only issue is
(18:08):
that every day, whether you know it or not, your
body is in a battle to thrive and survive every day.
The only difference is you have a name for your
enemy now and you're looking the enemy in the eye.
(18:28):
But the body dealing with first and second laws of thermodynamics.
The body is fighting decay every day. Every person life
is an illness it is it is fighting the decay
and the breakdown every day. The difference is the intensity
(18:53):
level when you have an illness like yours and that
you know its name and that you're staring it in
the face. There are people that want to give up
and do with just day to day life, and I
realize that the severity of battling cancer is much different
(19:17):
and going through different regiments of you know, drugs or
treatments or whatever it might be, even going to see
the doctor regularly. But let me tell you something. As
a medical professional, you know this. Doctors, nurses, medical professionals
(19:40):
cannot tell you what's going to happen. They can only
tell you what they've seen before. And there is something
in that fight that ultimately helps everyone, whether it's to
see somebody experience it in a new way, or respond
to differently to treatments. So there's actual learning and understanding.
(20:07):
Every time you go through a treatment, you're adding to
the knowledge of science and to the experiential of the
fund of experience that doctors, scientists, and professionals have about
what this cancer does to people. And in doing that,
(20:27):
you are building a case not only for your own illness,
but for other people with that illness for future experiences.
And if you bow out and you say, hey, I
don't want to be a part of this experiment called life,
then it's not just about you. Everything you're experiencing will
(20:53):
help or generate knowledge that will help other people as
well in the future. And uh, you know, beyond just you.
And that's a very powerful thing, and it's a lot
to put on you. I realize. But you're calling me
for a broader perspective of the situation, and I'm going
to give it to you. There's a lot going on
(21:16):
here that's not just about you.
Speaker 4 (21:19):
Now.
Speaker 1 (21:19):
Unfortunately it stinks because you're going to experience this, but
everyone will experience some illness, everyone will experience death, everyone
will experience decay. You're battling yours, but I mean, when
(21:42):
when do you When do you stop fighting for life? Ever?
Speaker 4 (21:49):
I guess I just it's not that I don't love
my life.
Speaker 2 (21:55):
I do.
Speaker 4 (21:56):
I love everyone in my life, but I also know
that there's something that comes after this, and I sort
of yearn for that, and I maybe maybe I'm just tired.
Speaker 1 (22:07):
All legitimate and all true. Of course, to yearn for
those things are great. But if you're yearning for those things,
it's because you believe in God, right right, Okay, because
that's what the promise is in the afterlife. And if
you believe in God, then you have to believe God
(22:28):
has the power and all these things, and you have
to believe that God is saying I need you here
for whatever reason. You can't really have one without the other. Now,
there is a difference, and I want to make this
very clear, because a lot of people politicize these things
and then they get lost and they don't understand there
is a difference between saving lives and prolonging death. I'm
(22:53):
not asking you to prolong death. You know these people
that go on and do all these things, and while
I think I saw them blink or I saw this
or whatever. It's like, if you're prolonging someone's death and
they're just they're dying, and medicine and machines can make
them look alive, that's different. But you are vibrant and
(23:16):
smart and attentive and present, and you have more to do.
And I don't know if it's writing. I don't know
if you like to write. I don't know if there's
something you should put to paper, if there's thoughts about this,
things that can comfort, if there's something you can do
to help others that are in even more dire situation
(23:37):
when things start to get go ahead.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
It's funny you say that because I have a homeless
outreach that I've sort of been bowing out of a
little bit. Maybe I shouldn't be doing that.
Speaker 2 (23:51):
Maybe That's what I'm supposed to be doing.
Speaker 1 (23:53):
I don't know if you can't do something for yourself,
then do it for others. There is a point in which,
especially when people are very focused on themselves and you
kind of have to be with what you're going through,
then to focus on others changes your perspective because when
you're looking about it just as yourself, I get it.
(24:15):
You may go in, Hey, you know, for me, I'm done,
but maybe you're not done for others. Maybe that's there's
other things, And I say maybe, but the reality is
definitely because God has you here, God wants you here.
God can take you home at any time. But he's saying,
(24:38):
you know, Mary, honey, I have a plan, and I'm
sorry that it involves your pain, but I assure you everything.
In scripture, Mary talks about life being a mist, life
being temporary, life being momentary, you know, in compare into
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the eternity that waits Tewod Corinthians four seventeen eighteen. For
this light momentary affliction is preparing for us an eternity,
an eternal weight of glory beyond all comparison. As we
look not to the things that are seen, but to
the things that are unseen. For the things that are
(25:22):
seen are transient, but the things that are unseen are eternal,
and right now, God says, you're here, honey, and there's
work to be done. And as long as you are
pulling a breath, that very breath that I breathed into Adam,
that I breathed into Eve, as long as you're pulling
(25:43):
that breath, I need you to glorify God.
Speaker 2 (25:50):
You know, I have to.
Speaker 4 (25:51):
Thank you because he said absolutely nothing that I thought
you would say and really gave me a shift in perspective.
So I have to thank you.
Speaker 1 (26:00):
Well, You're welcome, and I hope that you you see
the value that God sees in you to pull that
breath for now and fight that fight, not just for
yourself but for others. And I'm sorry that you're going
through this. I know that there is even though there
are similar attributes that people other people experience, every person
(26:24):
experiences an illness, even though it has the same name,
experiences it differently because of their family, because of their
you know, their strength, partners in life, whatever it might be.
And so this is yours. I get that, and I'm
sorry that you're going through it. But I'm telling you
God is God is saying, honey, you're here until you're here,
and I need you to participate as long as you're here,
(26:46):
and you should do normal fighting. You don't you know,
you don't have to do anything abnormal, do the normal
procedures to keep you to to save your life, not
to prolong your death. And you sound vibrant, and you
sound healthy, and you sound together, and the world deserves
(27:10):
to have that here for as long as they can.
Speaker 4 (27:15):
Okay, I think I'll take your advice.
Speaker 1 (27:18):
Thank you so much for calling. I really appreciate it, Marian,
and you will be in my prayers. I know that
that is an intense battle, and I pray that you
see why God has you here and what good you
could be doing while you are here, you know, interestingly enough,
(27:41):
just so you know the power of experiencing things and
others being touched by them. As we chatted with Mary
and talked about cancer and her illness and her desire
or lack thereof, to fight, sometimes we were bombarded with
(28:03):
calls of sympathy, empathy and the like from people just listening.
Maybe they're going through it. There were people in tears saying,
you know, I'm experiencing that, or I understand that, or
I've been there, or those types of things, and so Mary,
(28:25):
you are not alone at all. You know, God is
more interested in you than you believe. I know sometimes
you may feel insignificant or just a tiny part of things.
But every star, every drop in the ocean, everything is
(28:47):
purposely placed by God for balance and structure of how
this place works before you go to the next place.
In Matthew ten, verse thirty, it says, but the very
hairs of your head are all numbered. Now, in the
(29:09):
case of producer Neil, that's not really difficult. But for
people with hair, that's a pretty amazing stat talking about
God knowing and therefore caring about even the hairs on
your head. And with that comes purpose, and with purpose
(29:34):
comes execution of that purpose, living, living to see those
things through whatever God has for you, whatever God asks
of you. To glorify God. Your value is not just
being shiny and new as you go through life, life
(30:00):
being really just a series of decay. You have purpose.
God wants you to see that purpose through, to shine
as bright as you can for as long as you can,
(30:21):
and in that it will shine upon and point to
the glory of God. Kf I am sixty on demand
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