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March 2, 2025 • 28 mins
Romans 13 and Paying Taxes
Boss is a Bully
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI A six forty on demand. David,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Good morning, Hi, David.

Speaker 2 (00:12):
I was calling to ask about Romans thirteen, okay, verses
one through seven, and fourteen.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Okay, Well that's an interesting combination. Why would you combine
those two.

Speaker 2 (00:24):
Something about taxes and stuff, and I have a different
understanding of Romans thirteen than most.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Of Okay, Well, let's let's read it to give it context.
Let every person be in subjection to the governing authorities.
For there's no authority except from God, and those which
exist are established by God. Therefore, he who resists authority
has opposed the ordinance of God. And they who have
opposed will receive condemnation upon themselves. For the rulers are

(01:00):
not a cause of fear for good behavior, but for evil.
Do you want to have fear of authority? Do you
do what is good and you will have praise from
the same, For it is a minister of God to
you for good. But if you do what is evil,
be afraid, for it does not bear the sword for nothing,

(01:23):
for it is a minister of God and avenger who
brings wrath upon the one who practices evil and then
you bring in verse fourteen way down at the end there,
but put on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make no
provision for the flesh in regard to its lusts. Okay,
so what's your interpretation there.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
Well, I get a lot of people that tell me
we're supposed to obey the laws of the land and
stuff like that, and you.

Speaker 1 (01:51):
Don't believe, so you think you should be able to
do whatever you want.

Speaker 2 (01:54):
No, that's not what I'm saying. I believe we're supposed
to obey godly laws of the land, but not all
the lands are godly.

Speaker 1 (02:01):
Of course, in Nevada. In parts of Nevada, it's legal.
Prostitution is legal. Doesn't mean that a Christian can go
to a prostitute just because it's legal in the laws
of the land, of course.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
No, absolutely, Okay, you see, I recall the stories of
Shad Rakney, Shack and have been the gall and Daniel
in the Old Testament, where the king's made laws that
they were supposed to obey and they didn't obem.

Speaker 1 (02:30):
Well, there are times when you were to rebel against authority,
and that is when it tries to squelch your god
given right to worship God the way you see fit,
and there are times where you need to defend against that,
or if there was tyranny or a dictator that was
defining the ways to go. But if you remember, even

(02:51):
I gave respect to ponscious Pilot saying that he didn't
even have the authority to crucify me, except that God
gave it to him. So even misused authority is given
by God. It doesn't mean it's used properly, but it's
still given by God, just like life itself is given
by God and sometimes misused. So I don't know, are

(03:13):
you trying to get out of paying taxes? Is that
what you're bothered by?

Speaker 2 (03:18):
No, I believe in paying all the taxes and doing
all the responsibilities that you're just.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Saying that across the board, not all rules of the
government are worthy of following.

Speaker 2 (03:28):
But if the if the income tax is put in
by fraud and it's not constitutional, it's not legal and lawful.
And the way the government is prosecuting people for income
taxes by using punishments for alcohol, tobacco, on firearms, does

(03:49):
that make it legal unlawful? But you know, because according
to the i r S Internal Revenue Code, income taxes voluntary?
What the hecks is a voluntary mean? You know, if
we have to pay the tax, how is that voluntary?

Speaker 1 (04:05):
Well, there are there are people that opt out, but
it comes with consequence, David, as does many things. Now,
I think your I think your overall notion is fined
there that the people, in the case of the United States,
living in a republic that is uh, you know, activated

(04:26):
by way of democracy, that you should participate in that democracy,
and that based on the governing papers, which is the
Constitution of the United States, being the guide from which
you judge. That you can go and you can make
arguments for you know, what seems to be legal and
what seems not to be legal, but it has to

(04:47):
be done through the same government and the courts therein.
But ultimately the people have the power. It kind of
takes the wherewithal to act upon those things. But if
you think there is an injustice or a law that
is incorrect, then you fight against it legally. But that's

(05:11):
not what Romans is saying. What Romans thirteen is saying
is that all authority, even misused or ugly or violent authority,
is exists because God is ultimately authoritative. God is the
ultimate authority, and so in having that that those that

(05:33):
live in authority now or those that govern any area,
are governing based on the standards of God. Now, they
may pervert them, or pollute them, or change them. But
the concept of authority is just like the concept of life.
It can't exist with outside of God. It can be misused,
but cannot exist outside of God. So Chapter thirteen of

(05:54):
Romans is really talking about the power of those things
and that if you live, and it's assuming that it's
just authority. It's not saying do wrong if authority tells
you to do wrong. What it's saying is really about
from the standpoint of the individual, assuming that the authority
is living by the standards that God holds to be good.

(06:18):
Because hear it's saying that if you are under an authority,
that you should only fear that authority if you're doing wrong.
Otherwise you wouldn't. But you couldn't say that of a
bad authority or an abuse of authority, because they're the
ones that are changing the standard of what is wrong
and what is right. So it's obvious that here it's

(06:41):
talking about wrong and right by the standards of God,
which means that the government is adhering to those standards
of God, whether it be the Ten Commandments or others.
So once they veer from those, then yes, questions can
arise and not everything legal is good for the believer.

(07:03):
So it's not just about that it comes from the government.
But there's a difference between whether prostitutions legal or whether
prostitution was forced upon you, meaning that it's legal, but
you have to do it as well. Even as a Christian,
that's not what's going on. They're legalizing it for those
that choose to do it, but to a Christian it's

(07:24):
still not a choice. The problem would become when if
the government forced you to practice prostitution, that would be
a problem. The others come could be argued that it's
the forms of liberty and freedom of those that want

(07:46):
to do certain things being able to do certain things.
So it's the interpretation you have is sort of off.
But yes, if you are concerned about something the government says,
it doesn't mean just blindly obey them. It means obey
them as they stand in the Word of God or
stand towards those things which are true, even if they're
not proclaiming it to be Christianity or anything like that,

(08:08):
that there's still laws that adhere to the Laws of God.
The Ten Commandments. You can call them whatever you want
and post them on a wall in any order you want,
and you could even take the one about God off there,
and the other one still would adhere to the laws
of God, and those you would have to adhere to. Paula,

(08:31):
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.

Speaker 3 (08:34):
Yes, that's Jesus. I've been having some financial difficulties and
I've heard people say, well, maybe God's dealing with you
in some way and trying to get your attention or something.
I'm wondering if that's true, and also if it's true
that God's trying to deal with the people I owe

(08:55):
money to, because I've had to borrow from a couple
of good people as the same mindset that I'm not
able to pay them back.

Speaker 1 (09:05):
So you've borrowed money from people and you haven't been
able to pay them back.

Speaker 3 (09:09):
Yeah, because I've been in and out of work and
I've you know, I get a little bit of money
and I've had to pay my utility built and.

Speaker 4 (09:18):
Things like that.

Speaker 1 (09:21):
Well, they the principle of loaning money to people really
should be to help somebody out of a situation, not
out of lifestyle. If it's something you're currently in and
you're going to continue be in it, it's if they're
going to loan money, I would hope that they would
just give it to you at that point. But in
this particular case, you're asking if God is mad at you.

(09:44):
That's not how God works. There are consequences to the
decisions you make in life, and if you're living in
a way or you're doing things that are not productive,
you're not going to be making money, or you're not
going to be if you're strictly following let's say a
false dream. And I know that's part of the wonderful
world of discernment to get to a point where you
understand what dreams should be followed and what should not.

(10:06):
But if you're in a kind of a spiral and
you're into this, you know, auguring down and down and
down and down, I'm hoping that you are doing things
to either prop yourself up or protect yourself from falling
down any further. If you're just borrowing, it's going to
continue to dig yourself into a hole. But if you're saying,

(10:28):
is that because of God being mad at you. No,
it's not like God. God is putting a curse on you.
It's more like you're putting a curse on yourself by
the decisions you make. Or oftentimes it's just bad circumstances.
You know, businesses fold or collapse, or finances change, and
if you haven't prepared a large enough nest egg, or

(10:51):
you haven't padded things well enough, you can end up
putting yourself in a bad situation. And that's not about
God punishing you. That's because you weren't you know, preparing
properly for anything that could happen. And it's very easy
to confuse the two. I get people contacting me all

(11:12):
the time about that, saying, is God punishing me because
this is going on in my life? And that's usually
not the case. The punishment is usually just consequences to
the life decisions you've made. And I would say, Paula,
by the sound of your circumstance, it sounds like you're
just barely squeaking by. And if you're borrowing money at

(11:38):
a time where you can't even you know, pay for
your electrical bill and stuff, that's beyond borrowing money. You're
now at a state where you need a tremendous amount
of help. That's not just just get me through this
month type thing. And therefore, if you continue to borrow money,
you're going to continue to owe money because it doesn't

(12:00):
sound like there's been any sort of change in the circumstance.
And if you find yourself in a position where things
seem to be going, you know, spiraling out of control,
there is time for some change. Most definitely, people keep waiting,
and this happens a lot with jobs being what they are.

(12:22):
People kept looking for the job that they had rather
than getting a job to get a job, and then
most of those ended up getting filled quickly. So sometimes
you need a life change, say see something completely different,
and that extra perspective will help you out immensely. Shannon,

(12:45):
Welcome to the Jesus Christ.

Speaker 4 (12:48):
Good morning. I just want to say to begin with
that my faith in God is unwavering and I've never
had a prayer go and answer it in my almost
sixty years.

Speaker 1 (13:01):
Wonderful.

Speaker 4 (13:03):
Yes, so I'm very careful about what I pray for,
and I want to say I need guidance. I'm this
is not the first time I've dealt with a bully.
So I recognized it from the get go with this individual.
But this individual is my boss, oh boy, and you

(13:24):
know I defer to him. I have on several occasions
from the beginning when I was hired, very very calmly
asked him, you know, I hope there's a time when
we could communicate better. I mean, I feel like i'm
I'm I'm reduced to at this point having having to

(13:52):
be dragged into his way of doing things.

Speaker 1 (13:56):
Well, that's kind of that's kind of that's kind of
how bosses work. You know you're going to be dragged.
You're there to execute the vision of your boss exactly.

Speaker 4 (14:06):
So, but it's not clear.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
Okay. So that being said, what would be what would
be an example of.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
The boy, Well, yesterday was a was a perfect example,
and it's happened many times before. An extremely busy day.
I work in retail, and I you know, I'm not
a stranger to it. I've worked since I was fourteen
years old, so I know in large operations like this

(14:34):
and also in small operations that you know, there's going
to be situations, situations that are not perfect. So this
it came down to crunch time and everything was going smoothly.
And what happens is he allows chaos. This is my
personal opinion. He allows chaos to be created and he's

(14:58):
sort of an instrument in that. And then he he
shows up when everything's a mess and he's the hero
basically that's going to save everybody. But yesterday, in the
middle of several transactions that were going on, there was
a huge line and he he he actually began to

(15:19):
mock me in front of customers other workers. And he's
done this before and I wasn't. I was not in
no way responsible for anything. And as I said, this
is the first time, but I have to stay cool
to get through the you know, the how did you?

(15:40):
He pulled me off of one transaction that had become
a mess because he created it, and threw me into
another another one halfway into it, didn't explain it to me,
and then I continued the transaction not knowing what I
should do, and I didn't do what I was supposed to.

Speaker 1 (16:01):
Is he younger than you?

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Quite quite? And you know, but I understand how that
works too. I understand the dynamics there too. But what
happened to me is I had a physical reaction. I
just and this is this happened one time before I
just started to shake. I started to shake, and I

(16:25):
was still conducting business properly and trying to get through
all this in the two different things I was working in,
and one of the customers actually grabbed my hand and
and I you know, nothing was said that would untoward,
that would let her be dragged into this either, but
she was like she was feeling like she had to

(16:46):
console me, which I think is outrageous, you know, And
this is the first time it was actually a nun.
It was a nun that I was working with, which
doesn't really mean anything. It was a person that we were,
a customer that we were trying to provide good service.

Speaker 1 (17:05):
And she was sensitive to your to your situation.

Speaker 4 (17:07):
Yeah, but I mean, no one. I didn't think I
was giving off anything that was that she she could
see the situation. She was objective and felt for me,
which was fine, but I had to I had to
leave this situation, you know, after I had completed what
I was supposed to do, and I had to remove myself,
and I mean my whole body was shaking, and I

(17:30):
just broke down in tears, which is not like me.
And I this is the first time, I felt like
I had to report it to someone else.

Speaker 1 (17:39):
Well, and you did, I'm assuming I did.

Speaker 4 (17:42):
I spoke to someone about it.

Speaker 1 (17:44):
And do you have an HR department that they place?

Speaker 4 (17:47):
So our HR department is in India? I see, it's
a corporation. Okay, In all due respect to my boss,
the one in question. He you know, my boss has
to win a race every month, but actually every week
because they have financial goals they have to run. Of course, yes,
and he has to do things, in my opinion, that

(18:09):
I would never do. And I'm in a situation where
I don't work directly under him. He's he's the general
manager of sales, but I'm in another department, I see,
And he has an influence over me the power of
the pen and making my schedule. Okay, And but I
am not directly under him.

Speaker 1 (18:30):
Okay. Well, there's a there's a lot of pieces of this,
and I and I have a feeling we can get
even deeper to become confusion people much. So basically, let's
look at the biggest portions of this that are most important.
That is, very few victims in life, mostly volunteers. So yeah, yeah,

(18:50):
so at this point, and I need you to listen,
because this is this is important that at this point
you have to stand up yourself and make decisions as
to what you will be okay with and what you
won't be okay with, and and say if this is
not a good work environment, and I know that, people go, well,

(19:13):
you know I need the job, then you have to
understand the job is what the job is and if not.
In this there's hundreds of dynamics that can be playing
a part in this when when younger people are overseeing
older people that there are differences in the age that

(19:34):
cause problems translation. You'd think, well, we're both speaking English,
we're both doing this, but there are differences, major differences,
and in that generational gap lies a problem in communication.
Younger people think differently and are thinking based on the
things they are learning and knowing now, and an older
generation tends to think in a different way, usually one

(19:59):
that is a little more sent and kind and communicative.
So these things don't always work. They didn't work two
thousand years ago. There are stories in scripture where older
generations and newer generations did not get along, even on
things dealing with God, where the writing was right in
front of them. So First of all, you are to

(20:23):
go to the individual. Always go to the individual and
say this is unacceptable. The way you treated me, I
felt like I was being thrown into a situation without
giving the proper information as to what was going on,
and then I was looked to be made a fool
in front of the very people that I'm trying to serve.
On your behalf unacceptable. If you don't have an HR

(20:46):
department or someone to go above, then it's a bad
situation to be in. He holds all the power and
either you like him and will work for him, or
you won't. Fair or unfair. When somebody is the boss
in situation, have you are there to exercise their vision
and execute it. That's it to go in and to

(21:09):
do what they ask of you. If you don't agree
with that vision, then you leave. The best case scenario
is to be a part of something that you believe
in the vision at least the majority. Let's say eighty
twenty is a pretty decent rule that seems to go
with everything else in life. And if you can at
least agree eighty percent, then you give in the other

(21:32):
or you raise to the level of seniority to where
you are in charge and you run things the way
you want to run them. That's as far as the
business goes, as far as the individual's concerned. You put
up with whatever you put up with. If you don't
want to put up with it, don't. And it's a
sad situation because the person holding all the cards is

(21:55):
the one in authority, not a whole lot of you
around that. And if they don't have the proper structure
with their HR department, department and everything else, it's going
to be a tough one to deal with. And it's
a shame because if you're there to work and you've
got the heart and the passion to do it, it's
a shame that someone doesn't appreciate that and use you appropriately.

(22:17):
There are many people that are in places or positions
of authority that are really bad at it. They have
no people skills. They've gotten there and you know, from lying,
cheating and stealing, and it's a shame. But that's the
truth that that does happen without this individual being on

(22:40):
the phone with us today to explain their side or
where they're coming from. I will just deal with it
in generalities, and that is, don't put yourself through something
that you don't feel as right, speak up to the
individual first, and if they deny you, then go to
someone above them. If they deny you, leave. It's not

(23:01):
a company you want to pull a paycheck from, and
you have to allow yourself that scary situation to get
up and leave. And it's not enough to say, well,
it's not fair, they're the ones. Well, the company's fit
to put them in charge. And if the company sees
fit to put them in charge, either they don't know

(23:23):
who they are and what they're really about, which is
why you go and you you bring your concerns, or
they do and don't care. Neither way, you're out of
luck in that situation. And it's very sad. Bullying is
an ugly, ugly, ugly thing and comes from deep, deep
rooted insecurity. So without having this individual here to explore

(23:49):
that and to see what the concern is, you may
just chalk it up to the fact that you guys
don't work well together. And I've met wonderful people that
don't work well together. And we say over and over
on this program that relationships are very much like colors.
No ugly colors, just ugly color combinations. So some people

(24:10):
you put them together in relationships of any kind and
they don't work out. It's not about him being good
or bad or you being good or bad. They just
don't work out and it may be time to move on. Sadly.
Go through the channel of command and explain your grievances
and let them know that it's becoming a hostile work environment.

(24:31):
And if they don't take action, then leave the very patient. Dwayne, Dwayne,
how can I help you?

Speaker 5 (24:43):
Hi? Hi there, Jesus. I just had a couple of
quick questions. My mother died and she did not live
in the mainstream Christian religion. She lived in an alternate one,
and I've had three or four pastors tell me that
she went she is in ill. And then the second
question is, is on the Baptist when he was in

(25:05):
prison sent bessies for Jesus to tell him to ask
him if he was the one or should we look
for another? Or when I thought he didn't know?

Speaker 1 (25:16):
Yes, Okay, both good questions. Let's go through him as
quickly as possibly. First, but your mom, no man will know.
Now if they can say if she stayed in this
or she rejected Christ unto death, then yes, but no
one knows that for sure, and you have to trust
God in those things. That doesn't mean that you should
not be every moment that someone's alive, doing the best

(25:37):
you can to explain faith to them and the necessity
for the salvation that came through the blood on the cross. Absolutely,
but you don't really know in those moments, and it's
one of those things that I prefer people not to
worry about once it's done. Once it's done, you have
to trust God for any outcome there. As far as

(26:00):
John the Baptist, there's a lot of things. Unfortunately too
many things to get into in the time that we have,
but a lot of interesting things that went on with
John the Baptist and I in context of me being
the Messiah. Of course, you know we're cousins and there's that,
but we didn't spend a whole lot of time together. Really,

(26:21):
what's going on is when John asks about this in Matthew,
he's in prison and essentially he's going and he was
taught differently. It's not like he went to rabbinical school
and all these things and it was structured in that sense.
This is a man who was really fed primarily via
the Holy Spirit and now he's in prison, and he's going,

(26:44):
wait a second, I'm supposed to be the one who
leads the way for the Messiah. So if he's the Messiah,
then what am I doing in prison? I have to
lead the way for him? So really that's kind of
the question that's taking place in that verse in Matthew eleven.
So it's kind of focusing on that. And even I

(27:04):
didn't answer him directly, but made the disciples go and
explain all the things I had done and report, you
know that there was the blind being given sight and
so on, to give him that information so that it
would jive with his understanding of what the Holy Spirit
had put on his heart. It wasn't about him being

(27:25):
ignorant in the same way like, hey, I didn't know
he was. It was more, wait a second, I thought
he was, but I thought I was supposed to lead
the way for him. I'm in jail, so is he
not the Messiah? So it's more on him second guessing
himself in what he's been told and not second guessing me.
He believed I was, knew I was, but the circumstance

(27:46):
confused him a little bit and made him want some
reassurance which is why that goes down the way it
goes down. Thank you so much for listening. Join me
again next week, and remember, more importantly than all this craziness,
these simple words, I Am with you always. K f
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