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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI A six on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
So as the season of summer rolls to a close,
it's interesting how you can hear people talking about the
different the different parts of the season, the heat or
the weather. Maybe something affected you, and there seems to
be this pattern of people getting and maybe you're this
way as well, getting fed up or done with the
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weather as it stands. Heard someone just say that they
were tired of all the summer and the heat and
couldn't wait for fall. And I'm sure someone will have
similar sentiments about fall as they look forward to winter. Right,
But you should remember that every single season is important.
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Every single season has a purpose, and you're going to
have seasons in your life as well. It's not just
the seasons around you, but there's going to be times
in your life that you'll be eager to pass through
things that are going on that you wish they would
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speed up or move on because you're done with them.
Just as you may be done with summer, you may
be that in that place in your mind where you're
you're moving forward, okay, on to the next thing. Kids
are back in school, focuses change. Ecclesiastes three one through eight.
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Maybe you've heard this in a song or two. Starting
in verse one, says, there is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens. A
time to be born and it's time to die. A
time to plan and a time to uproot, a time
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to kill and a time to heal. A time to
tear down and a time to build. A time to
weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn
and a time to dance. A time to scatter stones
and a time to gather them. A time to embrace
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and a time to refrain from embracing. Time to search
and a time to give up, a time to keep
and a time to throw away, a time to tear
and a time to mend. A time to be silent
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and a time to speak, a time to love and
a time to hate, a time for war and a
time for peace. You're going to experience all kinds of
seasons in your life. Some of them will be wonderful
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and some of them will be painful. But you should
learn to appreciate every single season for what it has
to offer, refrain from the desire to rush through them.
That can be a huge problem in your life if
you only see the experiences things that are going on
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in your life is something you need to pass through,
something you need to get to the other side of.
And there will be times like that as well, things
that you need to just get through or just hold
tight during. But often it's about understanding that each time
has its purpose if you allow God to do. What
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God is going to do in your life at any
given time is when balance comes to your life. You're
just looking to press through the good times or the
bad times for whatever reason, you'll rush it, you'll miss
it because rushing each each season in your life just
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rushes time, right, And is that really something that you
want to rush? Do you really want to rush time?
Think about all the things that go on in your
life that have special moments or things that you look
forward to, things that you work towards or work for,
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all the time that you've spent for different goals. Do
you really want to get to the place where you're
rushing that you're pushing through those experiences and missing It
will move fast enough on its own. It doesn't need
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you up in the peanut gallery cheering it on. It's
really about finding the balance in life and seeing that
the truly truly, God has a specific and special plan
for you, and the seasons will come and go. The
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seasons are important, but if you get lost in a
particular one, or you think that you want to pass
through or brush through one too quickly, you can end
up making a bigger mess of things than you might think.
If you appreciate every single season and savor its uniqueness,
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it's specialty, and what God has planned for you in it,
then you'll see the bigger picture better. You'll see how
things are broader. God has this great, big plan for
what He's doing in your life. If you are only
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looking at them as seasons and wanting to push through
what you might see as a benefit, For instance, with summer,
Oh I'm tired of the heat. Oh I'm done with this.
Oh I can't wait for the kids to get back
in school. And what you think is a blessing moving
forward to that next place can be rushing the very
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thing that God wants you to savor. As you push
your kids through school, or you rush through summer, that
means another season has passed, Time has moved moved forward,
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and you're there encouraging it, and there will be a
day where you look back and go wow, Wow, I
remember the wonder full time I had when the kids
were young and there were summers and we got to
do things or experience different things. And now you've rushed
through them and the kids are older and they've moved on,
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and you want those times back. If you live in
the present, if you live right here, right now, then
that's the best way to be running alongside God and
what God has for you. If you get too caught
up in the future, if you're too far ahead, or
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if you live in the past, either way you've skewed
the perception of what God has for you, because now
it's become this either just a goal or something that
has harmed you or what have you in the past.
Time is an amazing gift, and it tends to pass
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quickly on its very own without you nudging it or
pushing it along. And there's a healthy and kind of
a wonderful urgency to it naturally that pushes and propels,
but not one that you should should make you worry
or make you anxious, but hopeful and excited about every single,
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tiny little second you have. And if you get to
that place where where you use every moment you're given
towards something productive or valuable, glorifying to God. That's where
you want to be. You don't want to squander it
just on anything. And the day to day, I realize
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it piles up and you get so caught up in
it that you want to get through the day, or
you want to get through the world, or you want
to get through your chores, or you want to get
through whatever. But keep in mind, you're not just pushing
the chores or your work day ahead. You're pushing your
life ahead. When you're too anxious, when you don't sit
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and enjoy and take in every moment of the seasons
in front of you, the seasons you're living in now,
the experience that God has for you now. If you
don't sit and experience it now, you're merely pushing yourself,
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pushing yourself through times. So the season of summer pushes along,
and it's very easy to tire of one part of
a season or one season and be excited for the next,
just pushing along. But when you do that, you push
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along the entirety of your life. You have to appreciate
every season, savor every part of its uniqueness. Because time
is a gift that tends to pass quickly on its own.
If you if you use every moment towards something productive, valuable,
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something that glorifies God, and you don't squander it, then
you're on the right path. Psalm ninety twelve says, teach
us to number our days a aright, that we may
gain a heart of wisdom. Knowing that time flies, as
you've heard it's said many many times, is part of
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being very wise and consequently using your time wisely. Of
all the commodities in your life, time is the only
one you can't make more of, but it's the one
you probably squander the most. Be a good steward of
your time. This precious gift is something to explore, to enjoy,
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to maximize, not something to push along or get rid of.
You do have a purpose. There are things that need
to be done. You don't want to rush or slow
down your time, because, as Ecclesiastes points out, as we
said earlier, there are seasons, and all things should be
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experienced in their proper time. Find the balance between productivity
and rest, learning and teaching. Ephesians five fifteen and sixteen says, therefore,
be careful how you walk, not as an unwise man,
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but as a wise making the most of your time,
understanding that seasons come and go, and understanding the way
preciousness of time and that it is passing and it's
imperative to learn to use it wisely. This will give
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you a heart of wisdom to be productive and most importantly,
glorifying to God. John, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Hello Jesus, how are you?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I'm well John, how are you?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I'm doing great. First of all, I like to say
thanks for bringing laughter and love and truth to the
great airways of this world.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Oh well, that's very nice of you to say. And
I'm glad you mentioned laughter too, So I think that's
an important part for everybody to have humor. People always
hear about the show and they go, well, is it funny. Well,
it's not a comedy show, but certainly we laugh. So
I'm glad that you recognize that as well. So how
can I help you today?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Well, three years ago, well it's four years now, my
wife heaven went on to be with God in heaven,
and I'm having trouble totally letting go and getting on
with my life. I'm a truck driver. I threw myself
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right back into my work and everything, and I'm still
running up and down the highways, and the Lord is
investing with this job, so I can go ahead and
help my family out still and help them get to
where they need to be, and and that's pretty well
what I'm doing. But it still hurts a great deal
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and I can't just let go. I'm having trouble just
letting go.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, I'm not sure letting letting go is the right way.
I know people use that term, but that's it is hard,
and you lose somebody it's so close to you, and
someone especially it's been a partner, and it doesn't just
it doesn't just shut off. It's a matter of the
relationship taking a different place in your life because it
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won't ever be the same again.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And so it's okay to keep loving her and everything,
So not totally let go, because sometimes I feel her
spirit and I feel the closeness steal from time to time.
So I don't maybe I need to rephrase that, but
not totally let go, but just go on with my
life anyway and just continue to love her and know
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that she's well.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, absolutely, there's a lot of mechanisms that humans use
to feel close to someone. And theologically we could get
into all the ins and outs about that, but really
what I want you to take with you is that
when someone passes on like that, and we tell people
over and over on the program, you end up being
the curator of their museum and they and so they
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they've passed on, but there's a lot that they brought.
And there's the jokes they told or or the way,
you know, having made a particular meal or she did something,
whatever it was. You're the past days along to others
and that still lives. Those are wonderful things. Though you
don't need to put everything in a box and shove
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it away and and you know, put your head in
a hole. And that's what people do sometimes when they
think they're letting go. It's about her of incorporating it
in a healthy way into your life as you move forward.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Now, Oh, she definitely brought a lot to my life.
Her smiles, her laughter, everything about or just in her name,
it's heaven. I mean, you know, everything I met in
heaven to be that's what she was. She was wonderful
with children. She was you know, great with kids, and
she babysat kids and that's when she was truly happy. Hey, John,
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truly happy John.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
How'd you meet her?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I met her at a well, I come off the
road and a friend of mine asked me to come
over to a get together and and I guess the
spirit letting me in that direction, and that it was
at my brother's house and I met her and she
was sitting there talking to my dad and met him first,
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and the rest was history.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And yeah, and the first time you saw her, what
she looked like.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Hard to describe the beauty, I mean, just the blue eyes,
the blond hair, the the beauty. And then I saw
a guy sitting with her, and that kind of bummed
me out, but turned out to be a friend of
the family, so it was okay.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So you moved on in?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, I moved on in and she welcomed me with
open arms and it was wonderful for seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And what the first time you heard her name? What
do you think?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well? I, well, I thought I was kind of in
awe And then she told me her brother was a preacher,
and then I had to pinch myself, Well did I.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
So?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Did the rest of her family have kind of spiritual
or biblical names?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Uh no, No.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
So she wish they named her Heaven.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Huh yeah, her name was Heaven and her dad to
give her that name, and she kept it and she
was wonderful. Well, phil Is, I'll see her again.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Absolutely, from heaven she came, and to Heaven she'll return.
And that's kind of the cycle, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yes, it is, yes, And it's.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Not about erasing them. Uh. I don't like when people
get to this place where they have to racing. That
doesn't mean that there isn't a time of morning where
some people might take down photos or you know, to
get over the loss, or to change and reset life
a little bit. But there's no reason to get over her.
You can. You can think happy thoughts, You can enjoy
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the the past memories. You can, as I said, be
the curator of her. You see him and tell people
about her and share that. But you need to move
on and be the sole focus of your family as well,
now you know, and take those things moving on and
continue to grow. You were someone before her, you'll be
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someone after her. And the beauty is is that God
has said for in his wisdom that he wants you
here still, and you have a purpose and part of
that plan. And before you ever married Heaven, you were
married to Heaven and God's being God's Church. You're married
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to Christ and being my bride means that you've got
to you know, serve out that time here serving God
and proclaiming the Gospel and living a life that glorifies God.
And you're not done with that. So that is that
is your to do list. Heaven check that off and
has now moved into glory with the Father. And you
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sure to enjoy her and tell people about her, but
continue to live your life moving forward.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You can do that, right, Yes, I certainly can't. I
believe all in what you say, and I'm going to
follow through on that, and I truly miss her and
I'll see her again.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yes you will. And you just keep the same same thoughts.
Like how you drive, John, you only look in the
rearview mirror if it helps you move forward. So only
look back if it helps you move forward. Because if
you were looking driving in the rearview mirror all the time,
what would happen as a trucker, John.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Well, I'd meet people unexpectedly.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yes, you certainly would, at probably high speeds as well. Brother,
You go in peace and thank you for sharing. Thank
you a story about his beloved heaven. What a name.
And as she passes on, John stays here that one
of the hardest things to do is when you lose
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that partner in life and you're looking at all the
things they did and all the things they are to
you and work to you, and to see that change
is It's difficult and will remain difficult. But there's always
this kind of what I don't like to see is
forced emotion on either side, people pretending to be happy
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when they're not, but also people feeling like they have
to be sad when they're not. And I know a
lot of things. People deal with mourning completely different. Each
individual deals with it different. I'm always frustrated to see
television shows that say, oh, well, so and so, you know,
we think that they're innocent, guilty or whatever because they
didn't cry here, or they did cry there or whatever.
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That's very human to go through that, but you never
know what what is going to motivate the tears or
how somebody reacts in sadness. And when there's a loss,
many different layers of loss, and there will be great tears.
Sometimes there's some people that are very introspective during those times,
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they get introverted, but in a healthy kind of inspection
of what took place and why. And there's those that
are very you know, outside and the tears come flowing,
and that's how they do it. And you've got to
let people mourn in their own right. It becomes unhealthy
when you're manipulating or forcing yourself one way or the other,
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or you're not moving forward at a normal rate. You
go through your time of mourning, and for some that
can be a full year, but there's a point where
you have to pick up and move on. It doesn't
mean about forgetting, and it doesn't mean, you know, letting
go in the sense that it's you know, like a
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balloon you're never going to see. It's you're allowing somebody
to graduate and to go and do their part fulfill
the part of theirs, which is to go be with
the Father. And you still are here for the rest
of your mission, and you should do it proudly and
with great excitement, both anticipating the fulfillment of those things
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that give glory to God and the fulfillment of your
mission and purpose here on earth, and then also to
be fulfill that time when you will be with God
in heaven proper and being with Father and with the
other children of God and all those things in the
proper time and place. But when you lose someone, I know,
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it's very difficult to move on. But it doesn't help
anybody to stay, and it certainly isn't what your loved
one would want for you to stay in that mental
state of just anguish and sadness, never moving on or
never finding God's will in things anymore. You have a
purpose if you're here, and you need to fulfill it. ROBERTA.
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Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Hi, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I am well? How are you?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I'm good?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
What's going on? ROBERTA?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Well, okay, kind of took me by surprise. I do
that often, okay. I I recently had a very deep,
profound healing at a revival that I went to. I
went all seven nights.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No names please, because we get a lot of people
just thanks, and I went.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
For all through call, all seven nights. And I've never
done anything like that before. Anyway, I've pretty.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Well what motivated you to God? What made motivated you
to go to this event?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
God told me that he wanted me to go loud
and clear. Yeah, I feel like a new person, and
I kind of don't really know for sure exactly what
to do with my new self because I've always been
a scrapper, you know, how how I've survived in my life,
life and all the things that I didn't do, I
sort of learned how to be a scrapper.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Nothing wrong with scrapping, with mixing it up. You mean,
you were a fighter in life and you were willing
to mix it up. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Well, I feel like being much sweeter and kinder and
more forgiving and more compassionate now.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, so now you're scrapping with yourself, that's all. That's
the only difference is now you're fighting with yourself and
your sin nature to keep it from coming out and
bringing out that person that you don't want anymore. And
and so the fight turns more inward than it was out.
You were fighting with the world and God and everybody
else before, and now you're fighting with yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Very well put. But I'd also I also feel now
that I would like to be giving a lot more.
I've been pretty selfish and I'd like to be giving
more and wonderful. I don't think that has to be
anything big and grandiose. I think that can be you know,
just every day as things show up and people show
up in front of me.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Oh definitely. That's what we talked about, living sacrifice, taking
up your cross. And you know, it's funny you talk
to kids and you say, you know, would you do
anything for your parent? They're, oh, yeah, I would lay
down my life for my parent to protect my parent.
You say, well, will you take out the trash? And
they go, oh, well, I don't want to let me
take up the trash. That just seems like, okay, well
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you do the dishes. Well, doing the dishes seems like,
you know, I wanted to watch my show. And it's
funny how people are always willing to do that big,
grandiose thing to show their love, but no one wants
to do the practical, day to day, smaller stuff. You're
absolutely on the right track. It's the it's those little
things every day that show God's glory, whether it's you know,
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breaking the leaves or or helping a neighbor, or doing
little things to show that you care about this, this gift,
this planet, the people on it that God has created,
and those will come in in little forms, whether it's
at church or in your neighborhood. What's one that you
would like to start with?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Oh gee, that's easy. There's people all around all the time,
every day, you know. I mean I live in a
senior complex and there are people here that have tremendous struggles,
and there's you know, there is an older man here
who is having a really hard time, and he fell
down a few days ago, and you know, I mean,
all I need to do is just kind of sit
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with him and talk with him and be his friend.
It's not that difficult, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Oh goodness, you mean compassion and kindness that people think
is so difficult.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I can say this one last thing. It feels really
really good to have a healed heart and to not
be carrying around all that old stuff anymore. It feels incredible.
I can't even describe in words what it feels like
to have a healed heart and to feel so much
closer to Jesus. You know, it feels really really good.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
You know, people harbor so much hate and anger, and
you know, we get calls for bird all the time, saying,
what you know, forgiving, you should I forgive this person? Really,
forgiveness is for you. It's to release that garbage off.
Reconciliation is different, but forgiveness really is for the forgiver.
It's to release that that garbage and to purify your
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heart and to get in a state of mind where
you're not bound up by all that hate and anger.
Is lovely, and you hit it on the head that
the most that you can give to somebody is care
and compassion, and it will spread like wildfire. Kfi AM
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
So as the season of summer rolls to a close,
it's interesting how you can hear people talking about the
different the different parts of the season, the heat or
the weather. Maybe something affected you, and there seems to
be this pattern of people getting and maybe you're this
way as well, getting fed up or done with the
(00:28):
weather as it stands. Heard someone just say that they
were tired of all the summer and the heat and
couldn't wait for fall. And I'm sure someone will have
similar sentiments about fall as they look forward to winter. Right,
But you should remember that every single season is important.
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Every single season has a purpose, and you're going to
have seasons in your life as well. It's not just
the seasons around you, but there's going to be times
in your life that you'll be eager to pass through
things that are going on that you wish they would
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speed up or move on because you're done with them.
Just as you may be done with summer, you may
be that in that place in your mind where you're
you're moving forward, okay, on to the next thing. Kids
are back in school, focuses change. Ecclesiastes three one through eight.
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Maybe you've heard this in a song or two. Starting
in verse one, says, there is a time for everything,
and a season for every activity under the heavens. A
time to be born and it's time to die. A
time to plan and a time to uproot, a time
(02:03):
to kill and a time to heal. A time to
tear down and a time to build. A time to
weep and a time to laugh, a time to mourn
and a time to dance. A time to scatter stones
and a time to gather them. A time to embrace
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and a time to refrain from embracing. Time to search
and a time to give up, a time to keep
and a time to throw away, a time to tear
and a time to mend. A time to be silent
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and a time to speak, a time to love and
a time to hate, a time for war and a
time for peace. You're going to experience all kinds of
seasons in your life. Some of them will be wonderful
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and some of them will be painful. But you should
learn to appreciate every single season for what it has
to offer, refrain from the desire to rush through them.
That can be a huge problem in your life if
you only see the experiences things that are going on
(03:31):
in your life is something you need to pass through,
something you need to get to the other side of.
And there will be times like that as well, things
that you need to just get through or just hold
tight during. But often it's about understanding that each time
has its purpose if you allow God to do. What
(03:56):
God is going to do in your life at any
given time is when balance comes to your life. You're
just looking to press through the good times or the
bad times for whatever reason, you'll rush it, you'll miss
it because rushing each each season in your life just
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rushes time, right, And is that really something that you
want to rush? Do you really want to rush time?
Think about all the things that go on in your
life that have special moments or things that you look
forward to, things that you work towards or work for,
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all the time that you've spent for different goals. Do
you really want to get to the place where you're
rushing that you're pushing through those experiences and missing It
will move fast enough on its own. It doesn't need
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you up in the peanut gallery cheering it on. It's
really about finding the balance in life and seeing that
the truly truly, God has a specific and special plan
for you, and the seasons will come and go. The
(05:22):
seasons are important, but if you get lost in a
particular one, or you think that you want to pass
through or brush through one too quickly, you can end
up making a bigger mess of things than you might think.
If you appreciate every single season and savor its uniqueness,
(05:47):
it's specialty, and what God has planned for you in it,
then you'll see the bigger picture better. You'll see how
things are broader. God has this great, big plan for
what He's doing in your life. If you are only
(06:08):
looking at them as seasons and wanting to push through
what you might see as a benefit, For instance, with summer,
Oh I'm tired of the heat. Oh I'm done with this.
Oh I can't wait for the kids to get back
in school. And what you think is a blessing moving
forward to that next place can be rushing the very
(06:32):
thing that God wants you to savor. As you push
your kids through school, or you rush through summer, that
means another season has passed, Time has moved moved forward,
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and you're there encouraging it, and there will be a
day where you look back and go wow, Wow, I
remember the wonder full time I had when the kids
were young and there were summers and we got to
do things or experience different things. And now you've rushed
through them and the kids are older and they've moved on,
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and you want those times back. If you live in
the present, if you live right here, right now, then
that's the best way to be running alongside God and
what God has for you. If you get too caught
up in the future, if you're too far ahead, or
(07:38):
if you live in the past, either way you've skewed
the perception of what God has for you, because now
it's become this either just a goal or something that
has harmed you or what have you in the past.
Time is an amazing gift, and it tends to pass
(08:00):
quickly on its very own without you nudging it or
pushing it along. And there's a healthy and kind of
a wonderful urgency to it naturally that pushes and propels,
but not one that you should should make you worry
or make you anxious, but hopeful and excited about every single,
(08:27):
tiny little second you have. And if you get to
that place where where you use every moment you're given
towards something productive or valuable, glorifying to God. That's where
you want to be. You don't want to squander it
just on anything. And the day to day, I realize
(08:51):
it piles up and you get so caught up in
it that you want to get through the day, or
you want to get through the world, or you want
to get through your chores, or you want to get
through whatever. But keep in mind, you're not just pushing
the chores or your work day ahead. You're pushing your
life ahead. When you're too anxious, when you don't sit
(09:16):
and enjoy and take in every moment of the seasons
in front of you, the seasons you're living in now,
the experience that God has for you now. If you
don't sit and experience it now, you're merely pushing yourself,
(09:37):
pushing yourself through times. So the season of summer pushes along,
and it's very easy to tire of one part of
a season or one season and be excited for the next,
just pushing along. But when you do that, you push
(09:59):
along the entirety of your life. You have to appreciate
every season, savor every part of its uniqueness. Because time
is a gift that tends to pass quickly on its own.
If you if you use every moment towards something productive, valuable,
(10:23):
something that glorifies God, and you don't squander it, then
you're on the right path. Psalm ninety twelve says, teach
us to number our days a aright, that we may
gain a heart of wisdom. Knowing that time flies, as
you've heard it's said many many times, is part of
(10:47):
being very wise and consequently using your time wisely. Of
all the commodities in your life, time is the only
one you can't make more of, but it's the one
you probably squander the most. Be a good steward of
your time. This precious gift is something to explore, to enjoy,
(11:10):
to maximize, not something to push along or get rid of.
You do have a purpose. There are things that need
to be done. You don't want to rush or slow
down your time, because, as Ecclesiastes points out, as we
said earlier, there are seasons, and all things should be
(11:30):
experienced in their proper time. Find the balance between productivity
and rest, learning and teaching. Ephesians five fifteen and sixteen says, therefore,
be careful how you walk, not as an unwise man,
(11:51):
but as a wise making the most of your time,
understanding that seasons come and go, and understanding the way
preciousness of time and that it is passing and it's
imperative to learn to use it wisely. This will give
(12:13):
you a heart of wisdom to be productive and most importantly,
glorifying to God. John, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 1 (12:27):
Hello Jesus, how are you?
Speaker 2 (12:28):
I'm well John, how are you?
Speaker 1 (12:30):
I'm doing great. First of all, I like to say
thanks for bringing laughter and love and truth to the
great airways of this world.
Speaker 2 (12:41):
Oh well, that's very nice of you to say. And
I'm glad you mentioned laughter too, So I think that's
an important part for everybody to have humor. People always
hear about the show and they go, well, is it funny. Well,
it's not a comedy show, but certainly we laugh. So
I'm glad that you recognize that as well. So how
can I help you today?
Speaker 1 (13:00):
Well, three years ago, well it's four years now, my
wife heaven went on to be with God in heaven,
and I'm having trouble totally letting go and getting on
with my life. I'm a truck driver. I threw myself
(13:20):
right back into my work and everything, and I'm still
running up and down the highways, and the Lord is
investing with this job, so I can go ahead and
help my family out still and help them get to
where they need to be, and and that's pretty well
what I'm doing. But it still hurts a great deal
(13:41):
and I can't just let go. I'm having trouble just
letting go.
Speaker 2 (13:47):
Well, I'm not sure letting letting go is the right way.
I know people use that term, but that's it is hard,
and you lose somebody it's so close to you, and
someone especially it's been a partner, and it doesn't just
it doesn't just shut off. It's a matter of the
relationship taking a different place in your life because it
(14:11):
won't ever be the same again.
Speaker 1 (14:13):
And so it's okay to keep loving her and everything,
So not totally let go, because sometimes I feel her
spirit and I feel the closeness steal from time to time.
So I don't maybe I need to rephrase that, but
not totally let go, but just go on with my
life anyway and just continue to love her and know
(14:34):
that she's well.
Speaker 2 (14:35):
Yeah, absolutely, there's a lot of mechanisms that humans use
to feel close to someone. And theologically we could get
into all the ins and outs about that, but really
what I want you to take with you is that
when someone passes on like that, and we tell people
over and over on the program, you end up being
the curator of their museum and they and so they
(14:57):
they've passed on, but there's a lot that they brought.
And there's the jokes they told or or the way,
you know, having made a particular meal or she did something,
whatever it was. You're the past days along to others
and that still lives. Those are wonderful things. Though you
don't need to put everything in a box and shove
(15:17):
it away and and you know, put your head in
a hole. And that's what people do sometimes when they
think they're letting go. It's about her of incorporating it
in a healthy way into your life as you move forward.
Speaker 1 (15:29):
Now, Oh, she definitely brought a lot to my life.
Her smiles, her laughter, everything about or just in her name,
it's heaven. I mean, you know, everything I met in
heaven to be that's what she was. She was wonderful
with children. She was you know, great with kids, and
she babysat kids and that's when she was truly happy. Hey, John,
(15:50):
truly happy John.
Speaker 2 (15:51):
How'd you meet her?
Speaker 1 (15:53):
I met her at a well, I come off the
road and a friend of mine asked me to come
over to a get together and and I guess the
spirit letting me in that direction, and that it was
at my brother's house and I met her and she
was sitting there talking to my dad and met him first,
(16:15):
and the rest was history.
Speaker 2 (16:18):
And yeah, and the first time you saw her, what
she looked like.
Speaker 1 (16:23):
Hard to describe the beauty, I mean, just the blue eyes,
the blond hair, the the beauty. And then I saw
a guy sitting with her, and that kind of bummed
me out, but turned out to be a friend of
the family, so it was okay.
Speaker 2 (16:39):
So you moved on in?
Speaker 1 (16:41):
Yeah, I moved on in and she welcomed me with
open arms and it was wonderful for seventeen years.
Speaker 2 (16:46):
And what the first time you heard her name? What
do you think?
Speaker 1 (16:51):
Well? I, well, I thought I was kind of in
awe And then she told me her brother was a preacher,
and then I had to pinch myself, Well did I.
Speaker 3 (17:03):
So?
Speaker 2 (17:04):
Did the rest of her family have kind of spiritual
or biblical names?
Speaker 1 (17:10):
Uh no, No.
Speaker 2 (17:12):
So she wish they named her Heaven.
Speaker 1 (17:14):
Huh yeah, her name was Heaven and her dad to
give her that name, and she kept it and she
was wonderful. Well, phil Is, I'll see her again.
Speaker 2 (17:25):
Absolutely, from heaven she came, and to Heaven she'll return.
And that's kind of the cycle, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (17:31):
Yes, it is, yes, And it's.
Speaker 2 (17:33):
Not about erasing them. Uh. I don't like when people
get to this place where they have to racing. That
doesn't mean that there isn't a time of morning where
some people might take down photos or you know, to
get over the loss, or to change and reset life
a little bit. But there's no reason to get over her.
You can. You can think happy thoughts, You can enjoy
(17:56):
the the past memories. You can, as I said, be
the curator of her. You see him and tell people
about her and share that. But you need to move
on and be the sole focus of your family as well,
now you know, and take those things moving on and
continue to grow. You were someone before her, you'll be
(18:18):
someone after her. And the beauty is is that God
has said for in his wisdom that he wants you
here still, and you have a purpose and part of
that plan. And before you ever married Heaven, you were
married to Heaven and God's being God's Church. You're married
(18:39):
to Christ and being my bride means that you've got
to you know, serve out that time here serving God
and proclaiming the Gospel and living a life that glorifies God.
And you're not done with that. So that is that
is your to do list. Heaven check that off and
has now moved into glory with the Father. And you
(19:03):
sure to enjoy her and tell people about her, but
continue to live your life moving forward.
Speaker 1 (19:09):
You can do that, right, Yes, I certainly can't. I
believe all in what you say, and I'm going to
follow through on that, and I truly miss her and
I'll see her again.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Yes you will. And you just keep the same same thoughts.
Like how you drive, John, you only look in the
rearview mirror if it helps you move forward. So only
look back if it helps you move forward. Because if
you were looking driving in the rearview mirror all the time,
what would happen as a trucker, John.
Speaker 1 (19:38):
Well, I'd meet people unexpectedly.
Speaker 2 (19:41):
Yes, you certainly would, at probably high speeds as well. Brother,
You go in peace and thank you for sharing. Thank
you a story about his beloved heaven. What a name.
And as she passes on, John stays here that one
of the hardest things to do is when you lose
(20:03):
that partner in life and you're looking at all the
things they did and all the things they are to
you and work to you, and to see that change
is It's difficult and will remain difficult. But there's always
this kind of what I don't like to see is
forced emotion on either side, people pretending to be happy
(20:27):
when they're not, but also people feeling like they have
to be sad when they're not. And I know a
lot of things. People deal with mourning completely different. Each
individual deals with it different. I'm always frustrated to see
television shows that say, oh, well, so and so, you know,
we think that they're innocent, guilty or whatever because they
didn't cry here, or they did cry there or whatever.
(20:48):
That's very human to go through that, but you never
know what what is going to motivate the tears or
how somebody reacts in sadness. And when there's a loss,
many different layers of loss, and there will be great tears.
Sometimes there's some people that are very introspective during those times,
(21:09):
they get introverted, but in a healthy kind of inspection
of what took place and why. And there's those that
are very you know, outside and the tears come flowing,
and that's how they do it. And you've got to
let people mourn in their own right. It becomes unhealthy
when you're manipulating or forcing yourself one way or the other,
(21:30):
or you're not moving forward at a normal rate. You
go through your time of mourning, and for some that
can be a full year, but there's a point where
you have to pick up and move on. It doesn't
mean about forgetting, and it doesn't mean, you know, letting
go in the sense that it's you know, like a
(21:51):
balloon you're never going to see. It's you're allowing somebody
to graduate and to go and do their part fulfill
the part of theirs, which is to go be with
the Father. And you still are here for the rest
of your mission, and you should do it proudly and
with great excitement, both anticipating the fulfillment of those things
(22:11):
that give glory to God and the fulfillment of your
mission and purpose here on earth, and then also to
be fulfill that time when you will be with God
in heaven proper and being with Father and with the
other children of God and all those things in the
proper time and place. But when you lose someone, I know,
(22:35):
it's very difficult to move on. But it doesn't help
anybody to stay, and it certainly isn't what your loved
one would want for you to stay in that mental
state of just anguish and sadness, never moving on or
never finding God's will in things anymore. You have a
purpose if you're here, and you need to fulfill it. ROBERTA.
(23:01):
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (23:03):
Hi, how you doing?
Speaker 2 (23:04):
I am well? How are you?
Speaker 3 (23:05):
I'm good?
Speaker 2 (23:06):
What's going on? ROBERTA?
Speaker 3 (23:08):
Well, okay, kind of took me by surprise. I do
that often, okay. I I recently had a very deep,
profound healing at a revival that I went to. I
went all seven nights.
Speaker 2 (23:23):
No names please, because we get a lot of people
just thanks, and I went.
Speaker 3 (23:28):
For all through call, all seven nights. And I've never
done anything like that before. Anyway, I've pretty.
Speaker 2 (23:35):
Well what motivated you to God? What made motivated you
to go to this event?
Speaker 3 (23:41):
God told me that he wanted me to go loud
and clear. Yeah, I feel like a new person, and
I kind of don't really know for sure exactly what
to do with my new self because I've always been
a scrapper, you know, how how I've survived in my life,
life and all the things that I didn't do, I
sort of learned how to be a scrapper.
Speaker 2 (24:04):
Nothing wrong with scrapping, with mixing it up. You mean,
you were a fighter in life and you were willing
to mix it up. There's nothing wrong with that.
Speaker 3 (24:11):
Well, I feel like being much sweeter and kinder and
more forgiving and more compassionate now.
Speaker 2 (24:16):
Yeah, so now you're scrapping with yourself, that's all. That's
the only difference is now you're fighting with yourself and
your sin nature to keep it from coming out and
bringing out that person that you don't want anymore. And
and so the fight turns more inward than it was out.
You were fighting with the world and God and everybody
else before, and now you're fighting with yourself.
Speaker 3 (24:39):
Very well put. But I'd also I also feel now
that I would like to be giving a lot more.
I've been pretty selfish and I'd like to be giving
more and wonderful. I don't think that has to be
anything big and grandiose. I think that can be you know,
just every day as things show up and people show
up in front of me.
Speaker 2 (25:00):
Oh definitely. That's what we talked about, living sacrifice, taking
up your cross. And you know, it's funny you talk
to kids and you say, you know, would you do
anything for your parent? They're, oh, yeah, I would lay
down my life for my parent to protect my parent.
You say, well, will you take out the trash? And
they go, oh, well, I don't want to let me
take up the trash. That just seems like, okay, well
(25:20):
you do the dishes. Well, doing the dishes seems like,
you know, I wanted to watch my show. And it's
funny how people are always willing to do that big,
grandiose thing to show their love, but no one wants
to do the practical, day to day, smaller stuff. You're
absolutely on the right track. It's the it's those little
things every day that show God's glory, whether it's you know,
(25:41):
breaking the leaves or or helping a neighbor, or doing
little things to show that you care about this, this gift,
this planet, the people on it that God has created,
and those will come in in little forms, whether it's
at church or in your neighborhood. What's one that you
would like to start with?
Speaker 3 (26:00):
Oh gee, that's easy. There's people all around all the time,
every day, you know. I mean I live in a
senior complex and there are people here that have tremendous struggles,
and there's you know, there is an older man here
who is having a really hard time, and he fell
down a few days ago, and you know, I mean,
all I need to do is just kind of sit
(26:21):
with him and talk with him and be his friend.
It's not that difficult, you know.
Speaker 2 (26:26):
Oh goodness, you mean compassion and kindness that people think
is so difficult.
Speaker 3 (26:34):
I can say this one last thing. It feels really
really good to have a healed heart and to not
be carrying around all that old stuff anymore. It feels incredible.
I can't even describe in words what it feels like
to have a healed heart and to feel so much
closer to Jesus. You know, it feels really really good.
Speaker 2 (26:54):
You know, people harbor so much hate and anger, and
you know, we get calls for bird all the time, saying,
what you know, forgiving, you should I forgive this person? Really,
forgiveness is for you. It's to release that garbage off.
Reconciliation is different, but forgiveness really is for the forgiver.
It's to release that that garbage and to purify your
(27:17):
heart and to get in a state of mind where
you're not bound up by all that hate and anger.
Is lovely, and you hit it on the head that
the most that you can give to somebody is care
and compassion, and it will spread like wildfire. Kfi AM
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