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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Live as we do this every year on Christmas Eve
here on KFI. Thanks for joining us. You can hear
the Jesus Show every Sunday from six to nine am
here as well and anywhere in the United States on
the free iHeart Radio app. Eight hundred five to zero
one five three four. Eight hundred five two zero one
(00:29):
five three four is the number to call. If you
have a question dealing with God, spirituality, worldviews, the Bible,
or if you're going through something in life that you
want to talk about, you can give me a call
as well. Eight hundred five two zero one five three four. James,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Good morning, and thank you for taking this call.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I appreciate this, and I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I just recently.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Started going to Mass and doing my own following of
Christian values and such, and just wanted to get an
idea of what you were like as a young teen
or early twenties. I know, of course you were at Carpenter.
I want to know what your personality was like.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well, it's interesting because some people refer to these as
the silent or lost years they're not lost and they're
not silent. Scripture is purposeful. It's not a day to
day recreation anyway, shape or form. It's more like you know,
around this time of the year, people will send out
little newsletters about their family with little highlights and little
(01:38):
timmy graduated from high school and all these things whatever,
they break them down, they're just kind of the highlights
that are important to what's going on in the family. Well, likewise,
scripture is the same, so there is certain parts that
are incredibly important that are talked about in scripture. Obviously,
(02:00):
of my birth is the starting of it, and then
it goes to it goes to a point where I
am in the temple and teaching and my parents come
looking for me, and I say, don't you know to
(02:23):
be about my father's business. Speaking about specifically being the
son of God, there is also a scripture that talks
about that I just grew simply in obedience to my parents,
listening to them and learning. It also says in Luke
(02:44):
to fifty two that I increased in wisdom and in
stature and in favor with God and man, which is
really interesting because when you're dealing with the hypostatic union
between my divinity and my humanity. The questions always have
to be asked twice because you have to ask can
(03:06):
God learn something? No, not the same way same sense
that you think about a human learning or taking on knowledge.
But as man growing up, I still had to go
through the process of learning to walk and talk and
do those things that any human did in that way.
But it says that I was doing those things. I
(03:27):
was studying, practicing. That's really what it is. I was
what they referred to as in the carpentry shop during
those periods. I was being a good son. I was
doing those things. Now that stops at some point, and
as a matter of fact, you can tell that I
was in town that people knew who I was and
had interaction with me. Because when I started, when I
(03:52):
moved from being in what is referred to as the
carpentry shop, when I moved from being this son of
Joseph and Mary working in that carpenter carpentry shop and
doing those things, when I moved from that into my
ministry at the age of thirty, that you see that
(04:13):
people reacted in Matthew thirteen fifty five says, is this Jesus,
the son of Joseph, the carpenter's son, and they start
asking that in Luke for twenty two, John six forty
two is referring to the things that I was doing
during that time prior to being thirty years of age
(04:35):
when my ministry started. And then that changes even my
relationship with my mother, because at the wedding of Cana,
I'm asked by my mother to help this family who
was going to be ridiculed and embarrassed in the situation
different than embarrassment today at the wedding for running out
(04:59):
of wine. And this goes into ancient history and the
time biblical times of what it meant to be married.
It was different than now. You'd invite the whole town
and they would last four days weeks, and there was
a process of taking care of people during that time.
(05:20):
And I said, you know, it's not yet mother, it's
not a woman actually, which is very specific separating and
changing our relationship from mother and child to savior. And
now that relationship changes and becomes this powerful moment when
the first recorded miracle takes place and the ministry is
(05:44):
changed at that point. Now you have signs and miracles
and these types of things that were going on there
that changed the whole relationship. So that is basically what
leads up to that there's just nothing. Everything was normal
as far as a child's concerned. That's why people respond.
(06:05):
It's not like there's some books that are referred to
as apocryphal or that don't have the earmarks of age
and authorship and language and things like that that aren't
canonized in scripture. And there are some that talk about, oh,
(06:27):
I was knocking birds out of the air with powers,
and you know, all kinds of weird things. But no,
that's it. It seals it up nicely in scripture. I
was doing normal kid things during that period and working
with my family, and then when it was time to
go into ministry, that's when you hear about what's going
(06:49):
on in my life again, because that is what actually
ties in to scripture and helps to tell the story.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You're listening to KFI AM six on demand.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Merry Christmas to you and your family. We get together
not only on Sundays from six to nine right here
on KFI, but also live every Christmas Eve to come
together and remind you, as the bumper sticker says, the
reason for the season right and if you have a question,
a theology question, or life situation question. I'd love to
(07:24):
hear from you anywhere you can hear my voice dial
eate one hundred and five to zero one five three four.
That's eight hundred five to zero one five three four.
H let's see here, Tony. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi, Hi, Tony.
(07:54):
How can I help you today?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I'm curious.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
More than curious, I'm fascinated with the correlation between the
possibility of alien contact, which I've come to believe is
going to happen in my lifetime, from being absolute skeptic
to believing it's going to happen. But the correlation between
(08:21):
scripture and the possibility of alien metaphors or maybe even
literal of you know, alien and outer space type entities
being described in the Bible.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, in.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Theology and studying of scripture, there's something called exegete and isogate,
and when that means there is a time where you're
taking information from scripture, and then there's times where people
read into scripture based on views. And you see this
(09:07):
when it comes to politics and things like that. People
always trying to push their views into scripture rather than
learning from the views that are in scripture naturally, So
when it comes to aliens meaning extraterrestrials life forms as
similar to humans, meaning that they are sentient in the
(09:30):
sense that they can think and reason and all of
these things in the same way, there's nothing really in
scripture that would back that up. There are talks of
people going through Ezekiel and looking at the wheel in
the sky or trying to look towards some of these things.
There are times when I in scripture say things like
(09:54):
there are others that are not of this flock, But
that's talking about the difference between Jews and Gentiles. A
scripture said first to the Jews, second to the Gentiles.
So when it's talking about the flock, it's talking about
the separation between the Jews and the special nature of Judaism,
(10:16):
and then the Gentiles, which came later the Christianity and
so forth. So that's not talking about other life on
other planets or anything like that either. So some people
will read into that. One of the biggest issues that
I think is never talked about Tony when it comes
to this is a verse in Hebrews Hebrews to sixteen
(10:38):
through eighteen, and it says that I did not come
to help the angels, says Jesus did not come to
save the angels, and then it goes on to say
that the mission of coming and dying was specifically for
the children of Abrahim or Abraham, so that it is
(11:04):
about humanity. That's referring to humanity in scripture, all of humanity.
So if it's not for the angels, which were created
and only for humankind, then you have to ask yourself
some pretty heavy theological and philosophical questions. So does that
(11:25):
mean that either other life forms are perfect and do
not need salvation, which there's nothing in scripture that would
have to mean that there are pluralist gods and not
monotheism Ishmah Israel deny a god, Hero Israel, the Lord,
(11:48):
our God. The Lord is one a God, one one God.
So monotheism now it would break down monotheism and you'd
need either multiple gods with differfferent ways of dealing with
each separate planet or each separate life form. You would
really need to break down. If not, then they're perfect,
(12:09):
and what is the purpose? Because God says this is
not the best world Earth, it's the best way to
the best world, which is heaven paradise, and so looking
at those things, it really is more than just wow,
there might be life. And then you have to look
(12:30):
at the scientific aspect of it, the amount of technology,
and to assume that someone is more technologically savvy because
they're at a different location is just as strange as
saying that because you live on Earth and are in
a different location from someone else than you must be
the one that is more technologically savage savvy. So when
(12:52):
you go to the boom in the forties of the
concept of extraterrestrials in the life and being visited, and
you look at the stories that were told and the concepts,
it was based on a lot of things, including a
smaller amount of building blocks for life. There are more
(13:13):
building blocks now and actually more understanding rather about the
building blocks that make life like you as a human
than there were in the forties and fifties when there
was proliferation about the belief in extraterrestrials. And then you'd
have to go to well, they'd have to be so
far advanced that they could travel at light speed or
(13:37):
quite honestly faster to be able to travel here and
make themselves known. So there's a lot of questions in there,
Tony that are beyond well, Gosh is thesekiel talking about
the wheel in the sky keeps turning, Sorry journey, But
if that deals with aliens and all of these things,
(13:58):
there's much more to it than there are still some
major scientific exclusions for travel, for connection, for similarity. The
mathematics as it is, for life to exist on it
as it is now is a mathematical impossibility save for
(14:18):
the fact that it exists. So for that to happen
twice adds even more zeros to that probability. And then
theologically and philosophically you get into some other things that
would make, as it stands now scripture obsolete because of
salvation and God and having one God, not saying I'm
(14:42):
the God of Earth, but the God of the universe,
creating all things from heaven and Earth and everything else.
There's a lot more to it than just the thought, Gosh,
be neat if there was life somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
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Speaker 2 (15:04):
Happy to be with you on this Christmas Eve, as
we are normally with you every Sunday from six to
nine am. Little fun fact for those playing the home game.
That was Dave Coots, producer Neil's cousin, Beautiful Voice, beautiful song,
beautiful person. As a matter of fact, if you have
(15:26):
a question theology, dealing with God, religion, world views, the Bible,
or if there's something going on in your life, we
call them life situations. Believe it or not, they do
change if things can go from good to bad. For
some reason, people believe that they can't go from bad
to good. But they can give us a call. Eight
hundred five to zero one five three four, eight hundred
(15:49):
five to zero one five three four Manuel, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Good Jesus, thank you for receiving my call. Question. My
question seems kind of simple, but you can guide me
in the right direction and what they can do. I
got married to I did all my sacramento as a
little child, my brothers and sisters, catechism. I got married
(16:19):
through the church Catholic divorced in two of five, and
I find out that I cannot receive communion because I
was married to the church and I have to go
through the diocese to fill out paperwork to get it
completed or so I can't do it. Yes, I've done.
(16:42):
I've gone to church and I've received the host, and
I tell my friends and family. You can't do it, Junior,
I'll come, Well, you're buried by the church. You have
to and this like I wanted. I wanted to compete
the circle and I feel empty without receiving communion. What
can I do on my end to feel good or
(17:05):
can I do it?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well, here's the thing. Manuel, you're talking about the rules
of the Catholic Church, and if you want to be
a Catholic, then by their rules you should abide. If not,
you're not a Catholic. Now then you have to ask
(17:28):
yourself if it's important to you as a Catholic. Who've
done the sacraments and did your first communion and I'm
assuming that in that you also did your confirmation and
all of those things. You got married in the church,
And if it is your goal to be a strong Catholic,
(17:50):
then by their rules you must abide. Now. Is that
God's wish for you? That's a different question. Is there
anything in scripture that says sharing or using the communion
(18:11):
as a memoriam and a reminder of the sacrifice of Christ. No,
there's nothing, but in the Catholic Church. You approach with reverence,
you bow your head, you respond a man to the
body of Christ. You consume it immediately, either making what
(18:32):
is referred to as the throne with the hands or
on the tongue, extending the tongue. And those are the
steps that the Catholic Church has prescribed. So if you
want to be a good Catholic, then you have to
abide by their rules. Now, Protestants and the like would
(18:55):
say it is for all those that claim Me as
their savior, and so that's really what it comes down
to Manuel as to where you stand. If you're looking
to be a good Catholic, then yes, their rules are
the rules. But if you're asking if you are right
(19:17):
with God, yes, God has covered your sins. My death
on the Cross was for all and there is nothing
to be added to it in any way, shape or form.
That's blasphemy. And so you have to look at things
that way as to what part you play and how
(19:39):
that is in your life. But Catholicism, that's controlled by Catholics,
and you can't call yourself a Catholic and ignore their rules.
That doesn't make any sense because you can't say, Gosh,
you know what, I'm a circle and then show everybody
your corners. You have corners, you're That's just that's how
(20:03):
they define it and everyone. Protestants define it one way,
Catholics define it another way. Even those within the Protestant
Church have different definitions about certain things. The one thing
they all agree on is the salvation in the blood
on the cross.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Happy to be with you this Christmas Eve. Merry Christmas
to you as I'm with you every single Sunday normally
from six to nine AM. Happy to be with you
on this day before the celebration of my birth. If
you have any questions dealing with what's going on in
your life or theology, your religion, world views, anything like that,
(20:50):
give me a call. Eight hundred five two zero one
five three four. That's eight hundred five two zero one
five three four Antonio. Welcome to the Jesus Christ. Yes, Hi, Hi,
How can I help you?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
I'm a Christian, a new a new Christian that I
haven't been a Christian that lot about eight eight years.
I was a Catholic.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
I started Catholic.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And Catholics are Christian.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yes, yes, yes, okay, thank you. Yes.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
And so now that I'm a Christian, I guess I
hear a lot of things, and I get you can
say you watch, you know, Facebook, TikTok and other things,
and then you hear things and that I'm confused of
celebrating Christmas and not celebrating Christmas due to.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I guess, h paganism.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
So I kind of now I let my family, my
son and my wife celebrate, but I kind of don't
inter fear I just say I don't celebrate it.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
So I don't know where to stand.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Okay, Well, I know there's a lot there that can
be confusing to people, but let's look at it a
couple different ways. First of all, there is no mandate
in scripture that says you should celebrate it, and on
the flip side, there is no mandate that says you shouldn't.
And one of the scriptures I want to point you
(22:28):
to is Romans fourteen five and six, and that is
one person considers one day more sacred than others, another
considers every day a like. Each of them should be
fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day
as special does so to the Lord whoever eats meat
(22:48):
does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God.
And whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives
thanks to God. So basically, what it's saying here is
is you shouldn't judge people for celebrating Christmas or not
celebrating Christmas. I think there's a lot of joy in
(23:09):
family connections in Christmas, and it can be confusing to
the rest of the family and children to not unless
you have a good reason. If you are worried about
pagan roots, I will tell you this, there are so
many different pagan roots that you participate in every single
(23:30):
day that you would have to take the ring off
your finger for marriage has pagan roots. The very tie
around your neck if you wear a tie somewhere has
pagan or a different belief system roots. There are so
many different pagan things. The point is you're not celebrating pagans. Basically,
(23:56):
what Romans is saying there in Romans fourteen to five,
and it's basically talking about do all things to the
glory of God. And you're not wrong. Now, you can't
do something that is against scripture, can't kill somebody to
the glory or murder somebody rather to the glory of God.
But it's about doing these things to the glory of God.
(24:18):
There is absolutely, positively nothing wrong with giving gifts, putting
up a tree and lights, and celebrating Christmas to the
glory of God. Zero. So the traditions that you grew
up with, those things, they're mostly just fine. You can
put a Nativity scene if you wish, you can do
(24:39):
these things. If you're worshiping the tree, there's a problem.
If you're worshiping the Nativity scene, there's a problem. If
you're worshiping the gifts. If you're worship there's a problem.
But if you're celebrating and using it as a jumping
point for kids to learn and to understand the importance
of giving and connecting and all of those things, there's
(25:01):
beautiful symbolism and connectivity with the family in Christmas. Don't
look for the devil under every rock. The devil already
has enough ground as it is on this planet. You
don't need to look for evil. So allow yourself to
enjoy the things of God. Nature is a beautiful thing.
(25:24):
To take a photo of a sunset, to be a
gasp when you see a beautiful sunset or something in
creation is wonderful, you start worshiping the creation. That's the problem.
So it really to find the balance in there is imperative.
It's one of those things. And if it was important,
(25:46):
you know, if there was something there, Antonio, where you
had to defy something to show the glory of God,
I'd tell you. But there's not. There is no win
in not celebrating, especially if it's a family tradition. In
this sense, all it ends up being is a division
(26:09):
and separating yourself anymore than celebrating a birthday or celebrating
a wedding itself, you know, those things. It could all
be traced back to pagan beliefs. And you know, really
you're going to just start picking apart your entire life
trying to figure out what you can and cannot do.
(26:31):
Why don't you just glorify God in the process.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Okay, yeah, so exactly what I was gonna say, Yes,
we will and then then we'll Yeah, that'll be number one.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yes, hold your people tight, Antonio, love on them. And
in scripture it says do not don't be fearful of
different foods. The whole thing is people used to you know,
why you pray before a meal is not only to
be grateful and thankful to God for the bounty, but
also that Pagans would kill animals as sacrifices to their
(27:10):
gods or their belief system, and Christians would say, well,
I don't want to eat that, and God says, eat it.
Just be thankful to God for it and give the
glory to God, not to whomever they killed it for.
And therein lies the attitude is to give glory to
God and all those things. And that covers it in
(27:33):
the way in which God wants you to be thoughtful
and mindful. But hug your family, go be with them,
exchange gifts, love on them, enjoy the spirit of Christmas.
Read the story of My Birth, whatever it is, but
connect with any with them, and don't let anybody say
you can't, because there's nothing in scripture that says you can't.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
KFI A six on demand
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Live as we do this every year on Christmas Eve
here on KFI. Thanks for joining us. You can hear
the Jesus Show every Sunday from six to nine am
here as well and anywhere in the United States on
the free iHeart Radio app. Eight hundred five to zero
one five three four. Eight hundred five two zero one
(00:29):
five three four is the number to call. If you
have a question dealing with God, spirituality, worldviews, the Bible,
or if you're going through something in life that you
want to talk about, you can give me a call
as well. Eight hundred five two zero one five three four. James,
Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Good morning, and thank you for taking this call.
Speaker 4 (00:52):
I appreciate this, and I'm just curious.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
I just recently.
Speaker 4 (00:55):
Started going to Mass and doing my own following of
Christian values and such, and just wanted to get an
idea of what you were like as a young teen
or early twenties. I know, of course you were at Carpenter.
I want to know what your personality was like.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
Well, it's interesting because some people refer to these as
the silent or lost years they're not lost and they're
not silent. Scripture is purposeful. It's not a day to
day recreation anyway, shape or form. It's more like you know,
around this time of the year, people will send out
little newsletters about their family with little highlights and little
(01:38):
timmy graduated from high school and all these things whatever,
they break them down, they're just kind of the highlights
that are important to what's going on in the family. Well, likewise,
scripture is the same, so there is certain parts that
are incredibly important that are talked about in scripture. Obviously,
(02:00):
of my birth is the starting of it, and then
it goes to it goes to a point where I
am in the temple and teaching and my parents come
looking for me, and I say, don't you know to
(02:23):
be about my father's business. Speaking about specifically being the
son of God, there is also a scripture that talks
about that I just grew simply in obedience to my parents,
listening to them and learning. It also says in Luke
(02:44):
to fifty two that I increased in wisdom and in
stature and in favor with God and man, which is
really interesting because when you're dealing with the hypostatic union
between my divinity and my humanity. The questions always have
to be asked twice because you have to ask can
(03:06):
God learn something? No, not the same way same sense
that you think about a human learning or taking on knowledge.
But as man growing up, I still had to go
through the process of learning to walk and talk and
do those things that any human did in that way.
But it says that I was doing those things. I
(03:27):
was studying, practicing. That's really what it is. I was
what they referred to as in the carpentry shop during
those periods. I was being a good son. I was
doing those things. Now that stops at some point, and
as a matter of fact, you can tell that I
was in town that people knew who I was and
had interaction with me. Because when I started, when I
(03:52):
moved from being in what is referred to as the
carpentry shop, when I moved from being this son of
Joseph and Mary working in that carpenter carpentry shop and
doing those things, when I moved from that into my
ministry at the age of thirty, that you see that
(04:13):
people reacted in Matthew thirteen fifty five says, is this Jesus,
the son of Joseph, the carpenter's son, and they start
asking that in Luke for twenty two, John six forty
two is referring to the things that I was doing
during that time prior to being thirty years of age
(04:35):
when my ministry started. And then that changes even my
relationship with my mother, because at the wedding of Cana,
I'm asked by my mother to help this family who
was going to be ridiculed and embarrassed in the situation
different than embarrassment today at the wedding for running out
(04:59):
of wine. And this goes into ancient history and the
time biblical times of what it meant to be married.
It was different than now. You'd invite the whole town
and they would last four days weeks, and there was
a process of taking care of people during that time.
(05:20):
And I said, you know, it's not yet mother, it's
not a woman actually, which is very specific separating and
changing our relationship from mother and child to savior. And
now that relationship changes and becomes this powerful moment when
the first recorded miracle takes place and the ministry is
(05:44):
changed at that point. Now you have signs and miracles
and these types of things that were going on there
that changed the whole relationship. So that is basically what
leads up to that there's just nothing. Everything was normal
as far as a child's concerned. That's why people respond.
(06:05):
It's not like there's some books that are referred to
as apocryphal or that don't have the earmarks of age
and authorship and language and things like that that aren't
canonized in scripture. And there are some that talk about, oh,
(06:27):
I was knocking birds out of the air with powers,
and you know, all kinds of weird things. But no,
that's it. It seals it up nicely in scripture. I
was doing normal kid things during that period and working
with my family, and then when it was time to
go into ministry, that's when you hear about what's going
(06:49):
on in my life again, because that is what actually
ties in to scripture and helps to tell the story.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
You're listening to KFI AM six on demand.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Merry Christmas to you and your family. We get together
not only on Sundays from six to nine right here
on KFI, but also live every Christmas Eve to come
together and remind you, as the bumper sticker says, the
reason for the season right and if you have a question,
a theology question, or life situation question. I'd love to
(07:24):
hear from you anywhere you can hear my voice dial
eate one hundred and five to zero one five three four.
That's eight hundred five to zero one five three four.
H let's see here, Tony. Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show. Hi, Hi, Tony.
(07:54):
How can I help you today?
Speaker 3 (07:57):
I'm curious.
Speaker 5 (08:01):
More than curious, I'm fascinated with the correlation between the
possibility of alien contact, which I've come to believe is
going to happen in my lifetime, from being absolute skeptic
to believing it's going to happen. But the correlation between
(08:21):
scripture and the possibility of alien metaphors or maybe even
literal of you know, alien and outer space type entities
being described in the Bible.
Speaker 1 (08:44):
Well, in.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Theology and studying of scripture, there's something called exegete and isogate,
and when that means there is a time where you're
taking information from scripture, and then there's times where people
read into scripture based on views. And you see this
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when it comes to politics and things like that. People
always trying to push their views into scripture rather than
learning from the views that are in scripture naturally, So
when it comes to aliens meaning extraterrestrials life forms as
similar to humans, meaning that they are sentient in the
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sense that they can think and reason and all of
these things in the same way, there's nothing really in
scripture that would back that up. There are talks of
people going through Ezekiel and looking at the wheel in
the sky or trying to look towards some of these things.
There are times when I in scripture say things like
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there are others that are not of this flock, But
that's talking about the difference between Jews and Gentiles. A
scripture said first to the Jews, second to the Gentiles.
So when it's talking about the flock, it's talking about
the separation between the Jews and the special nature of Judaism,
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and then the Gentiles, which came later the Christianity and
so forth. So that's not talking about other life on
other planets or anything like that either. So some people
will read into that. One of the biggest issues that
I think is never talked about Tony when it comes
to this is a verse in Hebrews Hebrews to sixteen
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through eighteen, and it says that I did not come
to help the angels, says Jesus did not come to
save the angels, and then it goes on to say
that the mission of coming and dying was specifically for
the children of Abrahim or Abraham, so that it is
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about humanity. That's referring to humanity in scripture, all of humanity.
So if it's not for the angels, which were created
and only for humankind, then you have to ask yourself
some pretty heavy theological and philosophical questions. So does that
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mean that either other life forms are perfect and do
not need salvation, which there's nothing in scripture that would
have to mean that there are pluralist gods and not
monotheism Ishmah Israel deny a god, Hero Israel, the Lord,
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our God. The Lord is one a God, one one God.
So monotheism now it would break down monotheism and you'd
need either multiple gods with differfferent ways of dealing with
each separate planet or each separate life form. You would
really need to break down. If not, then they're perfect,
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and what is the purpose? Because God says this is
not the best world Earth, it's the best way to
the best world, which is heaven paradise, and so looking
at those things, it really is more than just wow,
there might be life. And then you have to look
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at the scientific aspect of it, the amount of technology,
and to assume that someone is more technologically savvy because
they're at a different location is just as strange as
saying that because you live on Earth and are in
a different location from someone else than you must be
the one that is more technologically savage savvy. So when
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you go to the boom in the forties of the
concept of extraterrestrials in the life and being visited, and
you look at the stories that were told and the concepts,
it was based on a lot of things, including a
smaller amount of building blocks for life. There are more
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building blocks now and actually more understanding rather about the
building blocks that make life like you as a human
than there were in the forties and fifties when there
was proliferation about the belief in extraterrestrials. And then you'd
have to go to well, they'd have to be so
far advanced that they could travel at light speed or
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quite honestly faster to be able to travel here and
make themselves known. So there's a lot of questions in there,
Tony that are beyond well, Gosh is thesekiel talking about
the wheel in the sky keeps turning, Sorry journey, But
if that deals with aliens and all of these things,
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there's much more to it than there are still some
major scientific exclusions for travel, for connection, for similarity. The
mathematics as it is, for life to exist on it
as it is now is a mathematical impossibility save for
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the fact that it exists. So for that to happen
twice adds even more zeros to that probability. And then
theologically and philosophically you get into some other things that
would make, as it stands now scripture obsolete because of
salvation and God and having one God, not saying I'm
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the God of Earth, but the God of the universe,
creating all things from heaven and Earth and everything else.
There's a lot more to it than just the thought, Gosh,
be neat if there was life somewhere else.
Speaker 1 (15:00):
You're listening to KFI am six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
Happy to be with you on this Christmas Eve, as
we are normally with you every Sunday from six to
nine am. Little fun fact for those playing the home game.
That was Dave Coots, producer Neil's cousin, Beautiful Voice, beautiful song,
beautiful person. As a matter of fact, if you have
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a question theology, dealing with God, religion, world views, the Bible,
or if there's something going on in your life, we
call them life situations. Believe it or not, they do
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some reason, people believe that they can't go from bad
to good. But they can give us a call. Eight
hundred five to zero one five three four, eight hundred
(15:49):
five to zero one five three four Manuel, Welcome to
the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (15:58):
Good Jesus, thank you for receiving my call. Question. My
question seems kind of simple, but you can guide me
in the right direction and what they can do. I
got married to I did all my sacramento as a
little child, my brothers and sisters, catechism. I got married
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through the church Catholic divorced in two of five, and
I find out that I cannot receive communion because I
was married to the church and I have to go
through the diocese to fill out paperwork to get it
completed or so I can't do it. Yes, I've done.
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I've gone to church and I've received the host, and
I tell my friends and family. You can't do it, Junior,
I'll come, Well, you're buried by the church. You have
to and this like I wanted. I wanted to compete
the circle and I feel empty without receiving communion. What
can I do on my end to feel good or
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can I do it?
Speaker 2 (17:07):
Well, here's the thing. Manuel, you're talking about the rules
of the Catholic Church, and if you want to be
a Catholic, then by their rules you should abide. If not,
you're not a Catholic. Now then you have to ask
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yourself if it's important to you as a Catholic. Who've
done the sacraments and did your first communion and I'm
assuming that in that you also did your confirmation and
all of those things. You got married in the church,
And if it is your goal to be a strong Catholic,
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then by their rules you must abide. Now. Is that
God's wish for you? That's a different question. Is there
anything in scripture that says sharing or using the communion
(18:11):
as a memoriam and a reminder of the sacrifice of Christ. No,
there's nothing, but in the Catholic Church. You approach with reverence,
you bow your head, you respond a man to the
body of Christ. You consume it immediately, either making what
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is referred to as the throne with the hands or
on the tongue, extending the tongue. And those are the
steps that the Catholic Church has prescribed. So if you
want to be a good Catholic, then you have to
abide by their rules. Now, Protestants and the like would
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say it is for all those that claim Me as
their savior, and so that's really what it comes down
to Manuel as to where you stand. If you're looking
to be a good Catholic, then yes, their rules are
the rules. But if you're asking if you are right
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with God, yes, God has covered your sins. My death
on the Cross was for all and there is nothing
to be added to it in any way, shape or form.
That's blasphemy. And so you have to look at things
that way as to what part you play and how
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that is in your life. But Catholicism, that's controlled by Catholics,
and you can't call yourself a Catholic and ignore their rules.
That doesn't make any sense because you can't say, Gosh,
you know what, I'm a circle and then show everybody
your corners. You have corners, you're That's just that's how
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they define it and everyone. Protestants define it one way,
Catholics define it another way. Even those within the Protestant
Church have different definitions about certain things. The one thing
they all agree on is the salvation in the blood
on the cross.
Speaker 1 (20:21):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (20:27):
Happy to be with you this Christmas Eve. Merry Christmas
to you as I'm with you every single Sunday normally
from six to nine AM. Happy to be with you
on this day before the celebration of my birth. If
you have any questions dealing with what's going on in
your life or theology, your religion, world views, anything like that,
(20:50):
give me a call. Eight hundred five two zero one
five three four. That's eight hundred five two zero one
five three four Antonio. Welcome to the Jesus Christ. Yes, Hi, Hi,
How can I help you?
Speaker 6 (21:06):
I'm a Christian, a new a new Christian that I
haven't been a Christian that lot about eight eight years.
I was a Catholic.
Speaker 3 (21:18):
I started Catholic.
Speaker 2 (21:20):
And Catholics are Christian.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
Yes, yes, yes, okay, thank you. Yes.
Speaker 6 (21:26):
And so now that I'm a Christian, I guess I
hear a lot of things, and I get you can
say you watch, you know, Facebook, TikTok and other things,
and then you hear things and that I'm confused of
celebrating Christmas and not celebrating Christmas due to.
Speaker 3 (21:47):
I guess, h paganism.
Speaker 7 (21:51):
So I kind of now I let my family, my
son and my wife celebrate, but I kind of don't
inter fear I just say I don't celebrate it.
Speaker 6 (22:05):
So I don't know where to stand.
Speaker 2 (22:07):
Okay, Well, I know there's a lot there that can
be confusing to people, but let's look at it a
couple different ways. First of all, there is no mandate
in scripture that says you should celebrate it, and on
the flip side, there is no mandate that says you shouldn't.
And one of the scriptures I want to point you
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to is Romans fourteen five and six, and that is
one person considers one day more sacred than others, another
considers every day a like. Each of them should be
fully convinced in their own mind. Whoever regards one day
as special does so to the Lord whoever eats meat
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does so to the Lord, for they give thanks to God.
And whoever abstains does so to the Lord and gives
thanks to God. So basically, what it's saying here is
is you shouldn't judge people for celebrating Christmas or not
celebrating Christmas. I think there's a lot of joy in
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family connections in Christmas, and it can be confusing to
the rest of the family and children to not unless
you have a good reason. If you are worried about
pagan roots, I will tell you this, there are so
many different pagan roots that you participate in every single
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day that you would have to take the ring off
your finger for marriage has pagan roots. The very tie
around your neck if you wear a tie somewhere has
pagan or a different belief system roots. There are so
many different pagan things. The point is you're not celebrating pagans. Basically,
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what Romans is saying there in Romans fourteen to five,
and it's basically talking about do all things to the
glory of God. And you're not wrong. Now, you can't
do something that is against scripture, can't kill somebody to
the glory or murder somebody rather to the glory of God.
But it's about doing these things to the glory of God.
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There is absolutely, positively nothing wrong with giving gifts, putting
up a tree and lights, and celebrating Christmas to the
glory of God. Zero. So the traditions that you grew
up with, those things, they're mostly just fine. You can
put a Nativity scene if you wish, you can do
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these things. If you're worshiping the tree, there's a problem.
If you're worshiping the Nativity scene, there's a problem. If
you're worshiping the gifts. If you're worship there's a problem.
But if you're celebrating and using it as a jumping
point for kids to learn and to understand the importance
of giving and connecting and all of those things, there's
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beautiful symbolism and connectivity with the family in Christmas. Don't
look for the devil under every rock. The devil already
has enough ground as it is on this planet. You
don't need to look for evil. So allow yourself to
enjoy the things of God. Nature is a beautiful thing.
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To take a photo of a sunset, to be a
gasp when you see a beautiful sunset or something in
creation is wonderful, you start worshiping the creation. That's the problem.
So it really to find the balance in there is imperative.
It's one of those things. And if it was important,
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you know, if there was something there, Antonio, where you
had to defy something to show the glory of God,
I'd tell you. But there's not. There is no win
in not celebrating, especially if it's a family tradition. In
this sense, all it ends up being is a division
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and separating yourself anymore than celebrating a birthday or celebrating
a wedding itself, you know, those things. It could all
be traced back to pagan beliefs. And you know, really
you're going to just start picking apart your entire life
trying to figure out what you can and cannot do.
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Why don't you just glorify God in the process.
Speaker 6 (26:38):
Okay, yeah, so exactly what I was gonna say, Yes,
we will and then then we'll Yeah, that'll be number one.
Speaker 2 (26:46):
Yes, hold your people tight, Antonio, love on them. And
in scripture it says do not don't be fearful of
different foods. The whole thing is people used to you know,
why you pray before a meal is not only to
be grateful and thankful to God for the bounty, but
also that Pagans would kill animals as sacrifices to their
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gods or their belief system, and Christians would say, well,
I don't want to eat that, and God says, eat it.
Just be thankful to God for it and give the
glory to God, not to whomever they killed it for.
And therein lies the attitude is to give glory to
God and all those things. And that covers it in
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the way in which God wants you to be thoughtful
and mindful. But hug your family, go be with them,
exchange gifts, love on them, enjoy the spirit of Christmas.
Read the story of My Birth, whatever it is, but
connect with any with them, and don't let anybody say
you can't, because there's nothing in scripture that says you can't.
Speaker 1 (27:56):
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