December 25, 2025 • 24 mins
This Christmas episode explores the true meaning behind the holiday season. Jesus delves into the significance of gift giving, highlighting the importance of connection and appreciation over material possessions. He also discusses the origins of Christmas traditions, including the story of the Magi and the gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Additionally, Jesus answers questions from listeners, including a discussion about the age of the Earth and the Bible's account of creation.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It is the Jesus Christ Show. I am your Holy Host,
happy to be with you this Christmas, as we do
every single year here on KFI. We're happy to be
here with you and we will open up the phone.
So if you have a question, a theological question dealing
with God, religion, spirituality, worldviews, the Bible, or if you're
(00:32):
going through something, I know the holiday season can bring
a lot of joy, but for some it brings pain
or reminders of things from the past. Whatever it might be,
give us a call eight hundred five to zero one
five three four, eight hundred five to zero one five
(00:53):
three four and we'll be with you until four o'clock.
Every year around this time, the focus is on the
spirit of Christmas. People say happy Holidays, the reality is
the day holiday actually means Holy Day. Holy Days were
(01:15):
a time of spending time with your family, connecting with
your loved ones, thinking about the spiritual needs and not
just the physical worldly day to day life. The power
(01:38):
in the Holy Days comes from focusing on things in
which gratitude should be paramount. Now, gifts are lovely, and
there are those that say, well, gifts take away the
reason for the season, focus on God. And if a
(01:58):
gift can take your eyes your spirit away from God,
then there's other problems. Be long long beyond the gifts.
We'll get into the gifts that were given to me
as a child, the reason that you are celebrating the
(02:21):
Eve of christ Mass today and celebrating Christmas tomorrow. But
I want you to think about gift giving, the purpose
of it, the reason you do it. Finding those special
things about somebody that you want to amplify. That's what
(02:44):
a gift is. That's what the gifts were to me,
amplifying what you see in that person, what you love
about that person, what you know about them. It's a
way a nod to them, going I see you, I
know who you are, I appreciate you. And there's power
(03:09):
in that. There's connectivity in gift giving when done right now,
there's nothing wrong with giving small, little gifts to recognize
somebody that may be less personal, whether it's candy or
cookies or because with that comes the notion of I
(03:30):
care enough about you, you are on my list in life.
So it's not about the grandiose gesture. It's about the
power of connection. Seeing other people. When you notice people
getting irate and going driving, see people driving you go,
(03:55):
now the hustle and bustle of shopping, you see people
getting irate, you know what makes them I rate? There
are two things in those situations. One either entitlement. Somebody
feels entitled and doesn't know why you're messing with them.
(04:15):
But the other one is more likely, and that is, hey,
you don't see me. You think you're more important than me.
Just a smidge of the entitlement, But really it's it's more, hey,
I'm here. You just crossed in front of me, ignoring me.
(04:36):
You just took my spot there. You just you're ignoring
another human being. And the desire of humans are to
be seen and to connect rightly. So it's how you
were designed. So there's power and gift giving and that
the little dance that goes with it, like wrapping. I'll
(05:02):
explain more in a moment.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Time for Gifts. This season brings out gift giving and
the spirit of joy and appreciating the small things. And
it doesn't matter where they come from. I know trees
and the pagan origins and all these things. But the
reality is that there is joy in experiences of family
(05:32):
and connection. And I know the hustle and bustle is
at full blast, but ultimately, if you think of the
end results of just getting together. We've said this before
that happiness is a momentary feeling of joy due to
a happening. Just something happens, you get the gift to go,
(05:52):
oh yeah, and there's that. But true joy comes at
all times. True joy is impenetrable by circumstances. It's not
there because something is good or bad or indifferent. It's
there because it is. It's the sheer appreciation of life
and existence and one more day to change, or to
(06:17):
be better, or to do something for someone else. And
it's been said many times that Christmas is a time
for non believers to feel what believers feel on a
daily basis, and that is that joy. That focus on
those things. So back to gifts and the importance of them.
(06:39):
It's not about oh, I'm accumulating stuff. I've been giving
something of worth. The worth is not the gift. The
worth is the inside of the individual who gives it
to you, what they know about you, that you're on
their list, that you're important enough to be thought of.
(07:00):
It doesn't matter what the gift is unless the gift
ties into that. It's like I know you, I know
about you, and here's something I know about you. Those
are the best. Even down to the wrapping, Why do
you wrap well? Anticipation right to enhance the significance goes
(07:31):
back to ancient times, shows protecting of the item. It
shows care for the desire of someone to feel the
anticipation and the unwrapping as to what is what is
in it? The experience of those things makes it delightful,
(08:02):
makes you feel something a little different, an experience that
you wouldn't have had. So what about the traditions? What
about the traditions of the three gifts? Given? Everybody knows
about them? Right, Gold, frankincense and murrher What a trio.
(08:27):
So this builds up with the magi though what are
referred to as the wise men or the magicians really
is where that comes back back to not followers of
God in the traditional sense. And it doesn't say that
there were just three of them. As a matter of fact,
magi is plural and there could have been dozens. The
(08:50):
assumption that there's three is because the gifts are three,
So think about those gold interesting thing to give a child,
saving for saving, up for life, saving up for college.
No denoted kingship, royalty, frankncense. It's an incense, but it's
(09:20):
a very specific one. Frankencense shows uh talks to divinity, spirituality,
the godness of the baby and the manger and Mr.
Even equally stranger Mr. An embalming spice. How would you
(09:44):
give that to a child, a brand new baby? So
muhr was used for many things, as a perfume of sorts,
but often as an embalming spice placed upon the body
at death and burial. This is said to signify my
(10:04):
life thirty three eight years later in ministry as Savior,
acknowledging these roles collectively recognizing me as a child, as King,
(10:26):
God and Savior, the completion, the perfection of who I was,
is and always will be, the prophetic significance, the tribute
of the world, all of these things, the power of
(10:51):
those things stated in each of those gifts, showing that
even those that were part of a different, even a
pagan belief system like the Magi, knew something was happening,
something big, something significant, and in that shows the power
(11:16):
of what you celebrate on this Christmas.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Patty, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Hi Jesus, how are you well?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I am well? How are you? How can I help
you do?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
There?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Thank you for taking my call? And I know, happy
birthday for tomorrow. But that's the question. We know it
was in December. I was always of the opinion it
was during the fall because the white men were following
the star. But then I was having a conversation with
someone recently and she actually said it was something to
(11:57):
do with the sheep and when the lambs are born,
and that's always in the spring. And the fact that
there were shepherds at your birthplace. I knew I could
get the right answer from you because you knew where
you were born. So that's my question.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, there isn't anything that specifies specifically in scripture. It
certainly was not December. That is tied that is tied
to church stuff and other pagan holidays and the church
trying to push through those things to remain current and
(12:33):
relevant and things like that. The likelihood of it being
around September mid to late September seems to be one
of the consensus that comes from scholars looking at dealing
like you said, dealing with shepherds, because it talks about
the shepherds being in the fields, and there are certain
things that denote things that can be traced back and
(12:57):
look into as to what was going on so two
thousand plus years ago, and so in doing that, traditions
and the things that are talked about, that is where
most theologians land is sometime in mid to late September
is when they look at that. But it's the celebration
(13:19):
is the celebration, and most important is to be reminded
of the beginning, middle and end. Everything of import throughout
scripture talks about the beginning, middle and end. The Calgary,
you know, Gessimone, the empty tomb, all these things have
(13:41):
a pattern of that beginning, middle, and ending. That's imperative
and important. And so that's the beginning is what's being celebrated.
The beginning, not of God in people's lives, not the
beginning of even a faith, but the beginning of redemption
and salvation, which could not be obtained. That's the reality,
(14:03):
it was not attainable. There are two ways, really talked
about in scripture about getting into heaven, and it says,
be perfect like your father God in heaven is perfect.
Not going to happen or no. Take the blood on
the cross as the payment in.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Full amen, And I do. I appreciate you doing that
for us and making that sacrifice over two thousand years ago,
and it's just great to have you in my life.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Well, the wonder of that is is that that smile
that I hear and the joy that I hear when
you say those things. Praise to God that those things,
those things are seen by people around you. That is
why people will ask you to you know, there is
a presence of a person. This thought of having to
shove a belief system down someone's throat or be a
(15:02):
Bible thumper or any of those things. It's not necessary there.
If someone was glowing green, you would look at them
and go, wow, you're glowing green. Why are you glowing green?
I mean, people will ask questions on something. It's the shortcut,
shortcut to try and force it on somebody. It's another
(15:24):
thing to live in a way, to have an energy
about you that comes from the joy that surpasses understanding,
that is in your heart and in your life even
when times are bad. That makes people want to know
about you, know, Patty, what makes you tick? Why even
during tough times do you seem to have a strength
(15:44):
that I don't understand or I don't have, or whatever
it might be. Then there's power in that.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Well, thank you. I really appreciate that. But I know
without you, I wouldn't be where I'm at today. And yeah,
we all have struggles, Like I think I've even heard
you say in other episodes, you know, life house sharp edges.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh yeah, but just a.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Matter of that really, just the wisdom and knowledge and
the faith. I mean, that's where faith comes in. You know,
you can't see it. You just got to know it's
right and it's there and just do what you do.
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You're very correct. We've said that many times about the
world having sharp edges and the fact that you cannot
nerve the world. You're going to bump into things. And Patty,
that is why having the strength and the power of
God in your corner in your life, not for gosh,
be a genie and make nothing hurt and all that.
(16:38):
It's give me the strength the ability to look past
these things. God bless you, Patty, and Merry Christmas to you.
And I love hearing that you focusing on those things
and understanding the spirit of God. And still you know.
Whether you knew the date of my birth or not
(17:00):
is a curiosity and intellectual curiosity, and that's wonderful. But
it didn't matter. You still loved, You, still focused on
the things of God even without that knowledge, and there's
power in that as well. Eight hundred five two zero
one five three four is the number for you to
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(17:20):
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Speaker 1 (17:38):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (17:46):
Happy to be with you this Christmas as I'm normally
with you on Sunday mornings from six to nine am
here on KFI. If you have a theology question or
a life situation question anywhere you can hear my voice,
give me a call. Eight hundred five to zero one
five three four that's eight hundred five to zero one, five,
(18:08):
three four Donald, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Well, thank you very much. I had a question, how
old is everything? How long ago with creations? I know
there's a few theologians out there teaching the literal chronology
and genealogy is just a little over six thousand years. Yeah,
what's the what's the correct answer?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Okay, So those that are of the young Earth variety
in theology are incorrect the conclusions that they come to
or false on a couple of things. Ones, they're the
one they're using the genealogy, and the genealogy is not there.
They are like signposts of the genealogy. They aren't literal
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years or generations to count down and say, okay, this
is how long the earth is. Never is it said,
never is it placed anywhere in scripture that that is
the canon or the measuring rod that should be used
as to the age of the Earth. Science still learns
(19:23):
from different methods of gauging and metrology, which is the
study of measuring things. So they use different types of
metrology to come to conclusions as to how old the
universe is and those things in it. So the two
things theologically that people that tend to stop people in
(19:44):
their tracks are one the period of creation that has
talked about in Genesis, about the seven daymark. So the
word there in the Hebrew and the ancient Hebrew is
the same as the word that is used in Hebrew
now yom. Now yome is what you use for like
(20:07):
Yom Kippur and these types of things where you're talking
about a day. However, in the actual language, yom can
mean many things. It can mean a twenty four hour period.
It can be mean daylight, the period of daylight, which
is of course not the entirety of the day. It
can mean many things, including infinitude. Depending on its context
(20:34):
and the use of the word and where it is used,
it can mean many different things. This happens a lot
in ancient languages, especially in ancient Hebrew. Is one word
is used for many things, so it can mean you know,
(20:55):
stick or log or post or rod, so depending on
its usage. And so there are those that like Christian
and astrophysicist Hugh ross Out in southern California, believes that
the Earth is billions of years old, and this aligns
(21:18):
perfectly with scientific consensus, and he looks at the concept
of the progressive what they call progressive day age creationism
or Old Earth creationism. The producer of the show, Neil Savedra,
is also an Old Earth creationist, meaning that the you know,
(21:40):
the time of Biblical texts ties into what is known
scientifically and does not counter that in any way, shape
or form until and only until one tries to come
up with a measurement based on something like the genealogies,
which it never says, this is the age of the
(22:00):
earth by these things. So that is something that people
have misused scripture for. But there is nothing in scripture
that says specifically that the concept of billions of years old,
the universe being billions of years old, of the Earth
being billions of years old, is contradictory. Does that happen?
(22:26):
Appreciate that? Okay, you're very very welcome. Merry Christmas to you,
and I hope that that helps you understand it is.
The Bible is a fascinating work. It's not one book.
It's under one cover mostly, but it's not one book.
It's sixty six plus books to the Christian written over
(22:50):
a span of thousands of years, three different continents, three
different languages, times of peace, times of war, by kings
written and by peasants alike, and there's power in its continuity.
Is it a book of science? No? Does it contradict science? No?
(23:14):
I mean you have the concept of miracles, But science
often puts a label on a can before it understands
what's in the can, things like quarks, things like labels
that science will go, this is a thing. We don't
know what that thing is, but this is a thing.
There is something going on, some phenomenon. Because science is observational,
(23:40):
you can't observe a past, singular event like creation. But
if you stood on a seven foot ladder and dropped marbles,
handful of marbles, and they hit the ground and scattered,
and you could calculate the of the surface in which
(24:01):
they hit, and you could calculate the height in which
they were dropped, the weight, and the true spherical nature
of the marble, because they're not true spheres, they have anomaly.
If you could calculate all those things and the speed
in which they would slow down as they moved out,
then forensically you could look at those things and then
(24:22):
reverse the math and come to the point where they
were dropped and how high they were dropped and these things.
So forensically, everyone is looking backwards towards a past, singular
event when it comes to history of any kind where
you don't have the modern conveniences of logging other than
writing drawings, things like that. But there is nothing in
(24:45):
scripture that says nothing that says the Earth is six
thousand years old.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
KFI AM sixty on demand
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
It is the Jesus Christ Show. I am your Holy Host,
happy to be with you this Christmas, as we do
every single year here on KFI. We're happy to be
here with you and we will open up the phone.
So if you have a question, a theological question dealing
with God, religion, spirituality, worldviews, the Bible, or if you're
(00:32):
going through something, I know the holiday season can bring
a lot of joy, but for some it brings pain
or reminders of things from the past. Whatever it might be,
give us a call eight hundred five to zero one
five three four, eight hundred five to zero one five
(00:53):
three four and we'll be with you until four o'clock.
Every year around this time, the focus is on the
spirit of Christmas. People say happy Holidays, the reality is
the day holiday actually means Holy Day. Holy Days were
(01:15):
a time of spending time with your family, connecting with
your loved ones, thinking about the spiritual needs and not
just the physical worldly day to day life. The power
(01:38):
in the Holy Days comes from focusing on things in
which gratitude should be paramount. Now, gifts are lovely, and
there are those that say, well, gifts take away the
reason for the season, focus on God. And if a
(01:58):
gift can take your eyes your spirit away from God,
then there's other problems. Be long long beyond the gifts.
We'll get into the gifts that were given to me
as a child, the reason that you are celebrating the
(02:21):
Eve of christ Mass today and celebrating Christmas tomorrow. But
I want you to think about gift giving, the purpose
of it, the reason you do it. Finding those special
things about somebody that you want to amplify. That's what
(02:44):
a gift is. That's what the gifts were to me,
amplifying what you see in that person, what you love
about that person, what you know about them. It's a
way a nod to them, going I see you, I
know who you are, I appreciate you. And there's power
(03:09):
in that. There's connectivity in gift giving when done right now,
there's nothing wrong with giving small, little gifts to recognize
somebody that may be less personal, whether it's candy or
cookies or because with that comes the notion of I
(03:30):
care enough about you, you are on my list in life.
So it's not about the grandiose gesture. It's about the
power of connection. Seeing other people. When you notice people
getting irate and going driving, see people driving you go,
(03:55):
now the hustle and bustle of shopping, you see people
getting irate, you know what makes them I rate? There
are two things in those situations. One either entitlement. Somebody
feels entitled and doesn't know why you're messing with them.
(04:15):
But the other one is more likely, and that is, hey,
you don't see me. You think you're more important than me.
Just a smidge of the entitlement, But really it's it's more, hey,
I'm here. You just crossed in front of me, ignoring me.
(04:36):
You just took my spot there. You just you're ignoring
another human being. And the desire of humans are to
be seen and to connect rightly. So it's how you
were designed. So there's power and gift giving and that
the little dance that goes with it, like wrapping. I'll
(05:02):
explain more in a moment.
Speaker 1 (05:05):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
Time for Gifts. This season brings out gift giving and
the spirit of joy and appreciating the small things. And
it doesn't matter where they come from. I know trees
and the pagan origins and all these things. But the
reality is that there is joy in experiences of family
(05:32):
and connection. And I know the hustle and bustle is
at full blast, but ultimately, if you think of the
end results of just getting together. We've said this before
that happiness is a momentary feeling of joy due to
a happening. Just something happens, you get the gift to go,
(05:52):
oh yeah, and there's that. But true joy comes at
all times. True joy is impenetrable by circumstances. It's not
there because something is good or bad or indifferent. It's
there because it is. It's the sheer appreciation of life
and existence and one more day to change, or to
(06:17):
be better, or to do something for someone else. And
it's been said many times that Christmas is a time
for non believers to feel what believers feel on a
daily basis, and that is that joy. That focus on
those things. So back to gifts and the importance of them.
(06:39):
It's not about oh, I'm accumulating stuff. I've been giving
something of worth. The worth is not the gift. The
worth is the inside of the individual who gives it
to you, what they know about you, that you're on
their list, that you're important enough to be thought of.
(07:00):
It doesn't matter what the gift is unless the gift
ties into that. It's like I know you, I know
about you, and here's something I know about you. Those
are the best. Even down to the wrapping, Why do
you wrap well? Anticipation right to enhance the significance goes
(07:31):
back to ancient times, shows protecting of the item. It
shows care for the desire of someone to feel the
anticipation and the unwrapping as to what is what is
in it? The experience of those things makes it delightful,
(08:02):
makes you feel something a little different, an experience that
you wouldn't have had. So what about the traditions? What
about the traditions of the three gifts? Given? Everybody knows
about them? Right, Gold, frankincense and murrher What a trio.
(08:27):
So this builds up with the magi though what are
referred to as the wise men or the magicians really
is where that comes back back to not followers of
God in the traditional sense. And it doesn't say that
there were just three of them. As a matter of fact,
magi is plural and there could have been dozens. The
(08:50):
assumption that there's three is because the gifts are three,
So think about those gold interesting thing to give a child,
saving for saving, up for life, saving up for college.
No denoted kingship, royalty, frankncense. It's an incense, but it's
(09:20):
a very specific one. Frankencense shows uh talks to divinity, spirituality,
the godness of the baby and the manger and Mr.
Even equally stranger Mr. An embalming spice. How would you
(09:44):
give that to a child, a brand new baby? So
muhr was used for many things, as a perfume of sorts,
but often as an embalming spice placed upon the body
at death and burial. This is said to signify my
(10:04):
life thirty three eight years later in ministry as Savior,
acknowledging these roles collectively recognizing me as a child, as King,
(10:26):
God and Savior, the completion, the perfection of who I was,
is and always will be, the prophetic significance, the tribute
of the world, all of these things, the power of
(10:51):
those things stated in each of those gifts, showing that
even those that were part of a different, even a
pagan belief system like the Magi, knew something was happening,
something big, something significant, and in that shows the power
(11:16):
of what you celebrate on this Christmas.
Speaker 1 (11:20):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Patty, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Hi Jesus, how are you well?
Speaker 2 (11:32):
I am well? How are you? How can I help
you do?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
There?
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Thank you for taking my call? And I know, happy
birthday for tomorrow. But that's the question. We know it
was in December. I was always of the opinion it
was during the fall because the white men were following
the star. But then I was having a conversation with
someone recently and she actually said it was something to
(11:57):
do with the sheep and when the lambs are born,
and that's always in the spring. And the fact that
there were shepherds at your birthplace. I knew I could
get the right answer from you because you knew where
you were born. So that's my question.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Well, there isn't anything that specifies specifically in scripture. It
certainly was not December. That is tied that is tied
to church stuff and other pagan holidays and the church
trying to push through those things to remain current and
(12:33):
relevant and things like that. The likelihood of it being
around September mid to late September seems to be one
of the consensus that comes from scholars looking at dealing
like you said, dealing with shepherds, because it talks about
the shepherds being in the fields, and there are certain
things that denote things that can be traced back and
(12:57):
look into as to what was going on so two
thousand plus years ago, and so in doing that, traditions
and the things that are talked about, that is where
most theologians land is sometime in mid to late September
is when they look at that. But it's the celebration
(13:19):
is the celebration, and most important is to be reminded
of the beginning, middle and end. Everything of import throughout
scripture talks about the beginning, middle and end. The Calgary,
you know, Gessimone, the empty tomb, all these things have
(13:41):
a pattern of that beginning, middle, and ending. That's imperative
and important. And so that's the beginning is what's being celebrated.
The beginning, not of God in people's lives, not the
beginning of even a faith, but the beginning of redemption
and salvation, which could not be obtained. That's the reality,
(14:03):
it was not attainable. There are two ways, really talked
about in scripture about getting into heaven, and it says,
be perfect like your father God in heaven is perfect.
Not going to happen or no. Take the blood on
the cross as the payment in.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Full amen, And I do. I appreciate you doing that
for us and making that sacrifice over two thousand years ago,
and it's just great to have you in my life.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
Well, the wonder of that is is that that smile
that I hear and the joy that I hear when
you say those things. Praise to God that those things,
those things are seen by people around you. That is
why people will ask you to you know, there is
a presence of a person. This thought of having to
shove a belief system down someone's throat or be a
(15:02):
Bible thumper or any of those things. It's not necessary there.
If someone was glowing green, you would look at them
and go, wow, you're glowing green. Why are you glowing green?
I mean, people will ask questions on something. It's the shortcut,
shortcut to try and force it on somebody. It's another
(15:24):
thing to live in a way, to have an energy
about you that comes from the joy that surpasses understanding,
that is in your heart and in your life even
when times are bad. That makes people want to know
about you, know, Patty, what makes you tick? Why even
during tough times do you seem to have a strength
(15:44):
that I don't understand or I don't have, or whatever
it might be. Then there's power in that.
Speaker 3 (15:52):
Well, thank you. I really appreciate that. But I know
without you, I wouldn't be where I'm at today. And yeah,
we all have struggles, Like I think I've even heard
you say in other episodes, you know, life house sharp edges.
Speaker 2 (16:04):
Oh yeah, but just a.
Speaker 3 (16:05):
Matter of that really, just the wisdom and knowledge and
the faith. I mean, that's where faith comes in. You know,
you can't see it. You just got to know it's
right and it's there and just do what you do.
So thank you.
Speaker 2 (16:17):
You're very correct. We've said that many times about the
world having sharp edges and the fact that you cannot
nerve the world. You're going to bump into things. And Patty,
that is why having the strength and the power of
God in your corner in your life, not for gosh,
be a genie and make nothing hurt and all that.
(16:38):
It's give me the strength the ability to look past
these things. God bless you, Patty, and Merry Christmas to you.
And I love hearing that you focusing on those things
and understanding the spirit of God. And still you know.
Whether you knew the date of my birth or not
(17:00):
is a curiosity and intellectual curiosity, and that's wonderful. But
it didn't matter. You still loved, You, still focused on
the things of God even without that knowledge, and there's
power in that as well. Eight hundred five two zero
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(17:20):
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Speaker 1 (17:38):
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Speaker 2 (17:46):
Happy to be with you this Christmas as I'm normally
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(18:08):
three four Donald, Welcome to the Jesus Christ Show.
Speaker 4 (18:15):
Well, thank you very much. I had a question, how
old is everything? How long ago with creations? I know
there's a few theologians out there teaching the literal chronology
and genealogy is just a little over six thousand years. Yeah,
what's the what's the correct answer?
Speaker 2 (18:35):
Okay, So those that are of the young Earth variety
in theology are incorrect the conclusions that they come to
or false on a couple of things. Ones, they're the
one they're using the genealogy, and the genealogy is not there.
They are like signposts of the genealogy. They aren't literal
(19:01):
years or generations to count down and say, okay, this
is how long the earth is. Never is it said,
never is it placed anywhere in scripture that that is
the canon or the measuring rod that should be used
as to the age of the Earth. Science still learns
(19:23):
from different methods of gauging and metrology, which is the
study of measuring things. So they use different types of
metrology to come to conclusions as to how old the
universe is and those things in it. So the two
things theologically that people that tend to stop people in
(19:44):
their tracks are one the period of creation that has
talked about in Genesis, about the seven daymark. So the
word there in the Hebrew and the ancient Hebrew is
the same as the word that is used in Hebrew
now yom. Now yome is what you use for like
(20:07):
Yom Kippur and these types of things where you're talking
about a day. However, in the actual language, yom can
mean many things. It can mean a twenty four hour period.
It can be mean daylight, the period of daylight, which
is of course not the entirety of the day. It
can mean many things, including infinitude. Depending on its context
(20:34):
and the use of the word and where it is used,
it can mean many different things. This happens a lot
in ancient languages, especially in ancient Hebrew. Is one word
is used for many things, so it can mean you know,
(20:55):
stick or log or post or rod, so depending on
its usage. And so there are those that like Christian
and astrophysicist Hugh ross Out in southern California, believes that
the Earth is billions of years old, and this aligns
(21:18):
perfectly with scientific consensus, and he looks at the concept
of the progressive what they call progressive day age creationism
or Old Earth creationism. The producer of the show, Neil Savedra,
is also an Old Earth creationist, meaning that the you know,
(21:40):
the time of Biblical texts ties into what is known
scientifically and does not counter that in any way, shape
or form until and only until one tries to come
up with a measurement based on something like the genealogies,
which it never says, this is the age of the
(22:00):
earth by these things. So that is something that people
have misused scripture for. But there is nothing in scripture
that says specifically that the concept of billions of years old,
the universe being billions of years old, of the Earth
being billions of years old, is contradictory. Does that happen?
(22:26):
Appreciate that? Okay, you're very very welcome. Merry Christmas to you,
and I hope that that helps you understand it is.
The Bible is a fascinating work. It's not one book.
It's under one cover mostly, but it's not one book.
It's sixty six plus books to the Christian written over
(22:50):
a span of thousands of years, three different continents, three
different languages, times of peace, times of war, by kings
written and by peasants alike, and there's power in its continuity.
Is it a book of science? No? Does it contradict science? No?
(23:14):
I mean you have the concept of miracles, But science
often puts a label on a can before it understands
what's in the can, things like quarks, things like labels
that science will go, this is a thing. We don't
know what that thing is, but this is a thing.
There is something going on, some phenomenon. Because science is observational,
(23:40):
you can't observe a past, singular event like creation. But
if you stood on a seven foot ladder and dropped marbles,
handful of marbles, and they hit the ground and scattered,
and you could calculate the of the surface in which
(24:01):
they hit, and you could calculate the height in which
they were dropped, the weight, and the true spherical nature
of the marble, because they're not true spheres, they have anomaly.
If you could calculate all those things and the speed
in which they would slow down as they moved out,
then forensically you could look at those things and then
(24:22):
reverse the math and come to the point where they
were dropped and how high they were dropped and these things.
So forensically, everyone is looking backwards towards a past, singular
event when it comes to history of any kind where
you don't have the modern conveniences of logging other than
writing drawings, things like that. But there is nothing in
(24:45):
scripture that says nothing that says the Earth is six
thousand years old.
Speaker 1 (24:51):
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