October 25, 2025 • 31 mins
Guests galore! Andy chats with KTLA’s Eric Spillman about the Dodgers blowout. Andy also chats with Art Cervantes, the director of RADwood SoCal automotive festival, which celebrates the retro era of the ’80s and ’90s. And then there's Andy’s chat with author Steve Kosareff about his new book, “The Glass Eye Invasion” about television and media consumption in the midcentury. We listened to an ’80s-style cover song made by artificial intelligence, courtesy of the YouTube channel Reimagined AI.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:04):
The energy was great in southern California leading up to,
of course, this first game of the World Series tonight,
where the Toronto Blue Jays just crushed our Los Angeles
Dodgers eleven of four. Oof joining us now, my good
friend and yours, mister Dodger himself, Eric Spilman, live on
the phone via from all the way from Canada.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yes, what a beat down?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Huh yeah, man, hw brutal, It was brutal. What happened.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
What happened was that the Blue Jays, first of all,
I think are kind of underrated or underestimated by Dodger fans.
I mean, they're a very good hitting team, and they
proved it tonight, and they exploited the Dodgers' weakness, which
is their bullpen. Blake Snell had an okay game. He
was sort of struggling a little bit with control. They
took him out of the game and they brought in
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Imagean and that's when things went downhill really really quick.
Blue Jay's got a grand slam Hoad home run, and
they got another home run all of a sudden, Before
you know it, they'd scored what was it nine runs
in that one inning?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, crazy, they just exploded.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
But this is a team that is a really good team,
you know, and if you're a Dodger fan, you're thinking, wow,
we blew past Milwaukee. You know, the postseason has been
a breeze for the Dodgers. Well, guess what, now we're
playing the Blue Jays and they are a very very
good team. And so you know, first of all, it's
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only Game one, and the theory is going around and
I knew i'd hear this. Oh, the Dodgers had a
week off. That's why this happened, because they had a
you know, they just they weren't playing baseball and for
that reason, they were rusty. And you know, this is
this is the result if they if they had played
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continuously like like the Blue Jays did you know, and
did not have a long rest, that they would have done.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Do you put a lot of stock in that, No,
that's just.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Sort of the common thing. I knew I was going
to hear that. Yeah, and sure enough people said that
on social media and other people have said it as well.
I don't know, yeah, you know, I just think that,
you know, they had a bad game, you know, the
plan that the Dodgers have, the strategy that they have
is the starters need to go extremely long. They need
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to pitch into the eighth inning. You know, That's what
happened before, and that's how they were able to have success.
They bypassed the bullpen. You didn't go to the bullpen.
That's how you win, right, And then maybe you bring
in Sasaki at the end. In this case, you know,
five full innings from Blake Snell, he gets into the
sixth inning, he gets into trouble, you bring in relievers,
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and then things just didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Now, are there any actual Dodger fans in Toronto with
you there? Or is it just you and the media?
There's not a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I mean, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
It's expensive to get here. It's far. Tickets were expensive.
I I just don't think a lot of people made
the trip. And I understand why there's there's There are
a few, and you know, they they were excited coming
into this and afterwards they told us, hey, we haven't
lost faith. It's only game one. You know, we'll see
what happens tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, what are you feeling for tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I mean Yamamoto is a great pitcher. I mean, perhaps
the strategy will work tomorrow if he has a really
good game and the Dodgers can get some hitting. They
miss some opportunities at the plate. Could have done better
in that regard, Yeah, at least at least towards the
beginning of the game. So yeah, I mean they could
you know, they could tie. I think the goal for
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the Dodgers would would have been, and still is to
come away from this road trip these first two games
with one win. If they come back to LA with
one win, I think they'll be very happy.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, I think that the momentum will shift there for sure. Well,
I don't want to keep you any longer. Thank you
so much for calling. I'm sure it's way past your
bedtime with the point, but you are the best as always,
keep us posted and if you're still there, when do
you come back? Sunday?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Sunday?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
At a morning news broadcasting live from Dodger Stadium on Monday.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
How exciting is that?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
There we go Game three Monday night?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
All right, Eric Spilman from KTLA live from Toronto. Following
that beat down, brutal game. But hey, there's a reason
to be happy. That's because in southern California it's real
rad specifically tomorrow in the Port of Los Angeles, down
in Pedro or San Pedro. As you may have heard it,
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Radwood is a celebration of automotive excellence from the eighties, nineties,
and I guess a little bit later than after that
as well. But you're seeing some really cool eighties and
nineties cars. You're portly nine eleven's your Ferrari testa Ross.
I've been before in the past. I love that era
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of cars. Joining us now to talk more about it
from Radwood, it's Art Servantes, the director of the show,
joining us now live on KFI. Good evening, Thanks for.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Calling, hello, Well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
This is awesome.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Hey, I was down there a couple of years ago.
I've got an early nineties BMW convertible that I think
is a perfect fit for the show. Is it too
late for me to bring it on down, Well, we.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Can make an exception for it if you. Mike, we
are officially sold out of car response, but we have
plenty of room for people. And you know, as you said,
this is a celebration of eighties and nineties culture, so
it's not just the cars that is at the core
of what we celebrate here, but we celebrate lifestyle, so
period correct clothing, accessories, music, and anything associated with the era.
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So when you come to our events, you're going to
find all sorts of fun epemera, including people incorporating Nintendos
into the trunks of their cars, or a wide variety
of cars, just as you mentioned E thirty BMW's maybe
to Casterosa's Bugattis and everything in between.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
It's cool because I think that this is an era
of car that typically was not beloved or celebrated until
people maybe in our generation. I think we're probably about
the same age. We liked these cars because they were
the cars that were on the posters on the walls
of our bedrooms as kids. So now that we are
of age, I'm not going to you know, buying a
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house might be out of the question, but I can
at least put some money down on a on early
nineteen nineties Mercedes sl SL rather. But you know, the
thing that's so great about it is, like you said,
it's a celebration of all of those cars maybe from
that era and also the culture. But you do have
very special cars as well. There like there's things that
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you would never see anywhere else, very rare cars from
that era. What do you guys have this year?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
That's right? Yeah, And so one of the things that
I like to say is because there wasn't a platform
before us, and for the most part, we still continue
to be the premier event to celebrate this era. We
bring a lot of cars out of the woodwork that
you normally wouldn't see anywhere else, and so you're going
to see few G and x's of the world and
occasionally some very obscure, kind of rare versions of maybe
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mundane cars that you kind of forgot existed. Right, And
I've been in the automotive space for a very long
time and I'm always surprised by what we end up
seeing air events. We do have some very heavy hidden cars,
for example, iconic, maybe priceless, the Michael Keaton nineteen eighty
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nine Batmobile, also driven in the Batman Returns film. That's
at the core of our show what we call our
Radwood Royalty showcase inside of a super industrial warehouse, so
making for great photos. We have a NSX high bar,
which is an extremely rare, very valuable NSX now is
their sort of motorsport kind of racecar for the street edition.
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And you're also going to see a lot of you know,
not necessarily super valuable cars, but just extremely clean examples.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Of who heard that cars from that from that area. Yeah, totally, totally.
I remember you have like a bunch of like European
only versions of like BMW wagons. There's a Japanese import
section as well. I mean, you've got really cool stuff
that shows really well, and like I said, things that
maybe you know, didn't get the kind of love and
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appreciation back when they were being produced and so they
didn't get preserved. But then there's the couple of them
that did get preserved that actually end up on your
show floor, which is such a cool, cool thing to see.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
One hundred percent. And one of them, one of the
cars that I tend to see at our events and
nowhere else these days, is the Chrysler K car. Are
you familiar with those?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
So this is ann in the eighties basically Chrysler trying
to compete with the Japanese import or from trying to
make an efficient, you know, compact vehicle that you had
four doors and can you know, transport a family with
their around.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I just googled it and I definitely I remember it now, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
You remember those things. Yeah, and so those are obsolete now, right,
They simply god exists. They've all rusted away and now
you're c and pop up at our events.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
The most part the production line with rust as a future.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Actually this is true. Yeah, and you know one of
the things that we're seeing now, just as you're describing, right,
historically there wasn't a place to celebrate this era and
as we see this generational FIP happening right where like, yes,
I love hot rods, I love muscle cars too, I
love everything, but this is what's most relevant to me.
And we have people like Brettestein Fires who are now
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producing tires that are specific for these cars.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, weird, weird like fourteen and stuff like.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
That, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yah.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, So you know we're we're all like now, you know,
as we're preserving these cars and there's more attention being
paid to them. You know, we have partners like that
and companies in all over the industry that are producing
products to taylor to these particular vehicles because we cherish them,
and you know, and there's a big opportunity to last.
Want to see that happening.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Absolutely, last question before we get out of here. If
you are in the market for a cool car that
you think is going to be a future classic. I mean,
obviously you can't buy anything anymore that's now valuable, but like,
what's in that I think it's probably late nineties, early
two thousands. What's in that window now for a car
that you think that you would be like, Okay, I
think this is going to be a future classic that
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you can pick up for a couple of grand these days.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Oh a couple of grand, that's stuff, let's say so.
But yeah, I think you're going to find some gems
out there where we're seeing stuff, especially the Dapanese cars,
they're still a little bit more attainable and affordable, and
so I feel like your Nissan performance vehicles of the era,
right so you're three hundred GX quint turbos, you know,
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things of that nature. They still you know, they're they're
maybe fifteen grand for like a decent driver, but they're
not fifty yet, you know, but they're kind of making
their way town with their low Mileshine examples are super cheap.
But one other thing that is of interest here is
that we're starting, as you're saying, yeah, like starting to
see that more interest in the early two thousand again,
(11:22):
that that ship happening right as all of these folks
get established and seek out the stuff they left it
after when they were kids, and so there's a lot
more value there, I feel like, you know that, Like
for example, like if you start, you start with performance stuff, right,
so like the Mustang gts of the early two thousands,
and you know again with the Camaro equivalents, the performance trucks.
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Those are all really cool and they're still you know,
sub twenty for really really clean examples. Yeah, and those
are all starting to actually move up, and we're seeing
that in auction results and across the industry well.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Very good art surroundings from Bradwood kicks off tomorrow at
eleven am at the Port of Los Angeles. That's in
San Pedro Celebration, the premiere automotive festival focused on style,
culture cars of the eighties and nineties. You do not
want to miss it. I've been many times. It's such
a great time, especially if those are cars from your
own childhood.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I I'm Andy Reesmeyer. You can find me on the
internet at Andy KTLA. If you'd like to say hello,
that's on the Instagram dms, or if you'd like to
maybe even find me on Twitter x formerly known as Twitter.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
You've popped up in my Facebook recommendations.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And you know what's amazing, Runner, is that I haven't
received a friend request.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Well, Reesemeyer, since we're going with high school last names tonight,
I'm taking issue with the necktie you're wearing in that photo.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh and because it's a skinny tie.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Well, I don't know what kind of not that is,
or if it's like a tourniquet or a wind sock.
I don't know what you're doing with your necktie. It's
pretty bad. I mean, that was a weird tie. I
remember that day.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I was not supposed that the photo was not supposed
to be taken that day. I wasn't gonna it was
a bad it was all. It was bad all around.
You're right, I should change it.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Does anybody take responsibility for anything anymore?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I don't know. You know, I think that, if anything,
I'm going to start rejecting any kind of uh onus
when it comes to shirt compatibility to tie not like,
there's just far too much to know now. The old
era of men's wear has been replaced by a billion
different shirts, a billion different tie knots. There's all these
(13:34):
rules now about how a guy should look. You know,
you can't wear a skinny tie with a spread call.
I mean, it's like there's too many things to pay
attention to.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
All right, listen, I'm gonna help you out here. You
can never go wrong with a regular old half wins
or not. Okay, okay, well that's good. Tony's shaking his head.
What's your problem? Yeah, Tony, what's your deal? Dude?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You got an issue with the boy talk over here
about I just don't know what any of that stuff
is even you're so Oh. I wear band shirts and
cargo shorts. Okay, stay out of this. I wear a
suit every day, like a real buttoned up suit with
a tight collar and a and a double windsor not
usually in the in the tie. Oh, like the full
(14:15):
windsor that's like the size of a fist. Yeah, I
because the spread collar. You got to do that a
little bit. But this was the photo that was taken
was like two years ago is before I was wearing
a tie every day, so I didn't really understand. But
you know, the television as it were, is the gift
that has given me so much in my life. I
love TV. Before I ever dreamed of working in it,
(14:37):
I watched it constantly. It was always on in the house.
My parents loved I mean, we didn't watch anything except news, really,
but my parents paid attention to the news anchors.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
That's kind of child abuse. They only showed you a
news Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
My god, we watched the I remember watching the OJ
Pursuit on the kitchen counter like as a you know,
I mean, and I was like five, probably five or six.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Oh, I would have called CPS on your folks.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
No, no, I mean, I loved it. It was a
great education. And you know, I think to end up
working in TV. What I always say is I got
into TV because that was what my parents paid attention to,
and that's what they Those are the people who they validated.
So in order to get attention from my parents, I
went into TV.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
And so now you feel more real. Yeah, yeah, now
I feel defined.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, But TV was a big deal in my life
and I love thinking about TV and the history of TV,
and you know KTLA just like KFI legacy stations. They've
been around forever, and I think that it's no I
am constantly reminded of the privilege I have to be
at a place that people care about and that they
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like and that they have a relationship with forever. And
TV I think was very unique in that. And a
new book called The Glass Eye Invasion Television Sets Invade
the mid Century Home is all about how TV invaded
the house in the fifties and shape culture. It's written
by an author named Stephen Steve KOs Ref who's joining
(16:06):
us now via the telephone. Steve, do you hear me? H?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I sure do, Eddie. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Thank you for Colin, and thanks for writing the book.
You know, I know that you've written about television, probably
first book maybe twenty years ago. And yeah, TV is
in twenty years has become so different than it was
in two thousand and five. But take me back with
this new book to the fifties. I want you to
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sort of reflect on what TV presented. What I want
to say, what it did to culture because that's sort
of loaded, but what it created, and I want you
to maybe even if you can compare that to or
can you compare that to how the internet has changed
us social media has changed us.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Yeah, there's parallel, that's for sure. I think people going
into reading this book have to sort of imagine a
time before smartphone, computers, tablets, even television sets. Not so
long ago, the only way you could see a moving
image was to go into a movie theater, or if
you were wealthy enough, you know, you had a whole
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movie projector you know, radio was king then of you know,
the network television shows we see now, we're only on
radio at that point, and so people listened to the radio.
If they wanted to go out to see a moving image,
they went to a movie. And television had been spoken
about for oh, you know, one hundred years prior to that,
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and you know, it was always just around the corner,
always just around the corner. And it wasn't until the
mid nineteen thirties that it actually looked like become a reality.
But unfortunately, World War two, you know, came about, and
that put everything on the back burner for a while.
But once that ended, you know, people had a lot
of money. There were a lot of suburban families at
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that point, and so the stars had aligned for it
to take off at that point and for a very
short period of time, basically five years from like nineteen
forty eight to fifty three is what I cover in
The Glass Eye Invasion. When television sets invaded, literally invaded
the American home. Yeah, and how that changed, you know,
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the culture and relationships even within the family.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, Steve, I'll tell you what I'm up against. A
heartbreak here, but can you stick with us? And after
the commercial break we'll continue to talk about this awesome
new book. Sure, Glass Eye Invasion by Steve koser F
will pick up this conversation on the other side.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand talking.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
With Steve kosa F from The Glass Eye Invasion. It's
a book he wrote about television sets invading the mid
century home. We're talking about the I don't know if
you would call it a golden era, maybe the beginning
era of television and how it shaped culture. What do
you think would be the biggest surprise to the media
consumer of twenty twenty five if they were to turn
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on a broadcast back in the late forties the early fifties, Well.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
I think they'd actually have to see inside a home
the family watching it, particularly if they were the first
family on a block to have a television set, because
once they threw up that antenna on the roof, they
would draw neighbors like flies.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Because right in Back to the Future, which forgive me,
I know it's not you know, a piece of record
as far as the fifties, but you know, they do
make a lot of jokes in the movie made in
the eighties, obviously, but they make jokes about how they're
the first TV set that they ever got, and Marty
talks about having two TVs. And I think Marty's uncle,
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who's a kid in the Yeah, if you've seen the movie,
you get it's like, Wow, two TVs, you must be rich,
which is funny to think about now because they feel
like that, you know, they're giving away TVs.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Well, that was pretty much. I mean, my family was
the same situation. We had one television set until I
sold Christmas cards when I was fourteen to buy my own. Wow,
and you know, my parents hog that set. They I
wasn't watching what I wanted to.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
I watched The Lawrence Welk Show and whatever else they
were watching, which I didn't particularly like, so I understand that,
but you know what the first sets, people would either
drop over unannounced or they might have television parties which
often people dressed up for and the host was expected
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to supply snacks, and you know, often these people did not,
They did not bring their own snacks. You know, they
were mooching off their hosts.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
This is outrageous. So you got to buy the TV
and also supply the snacks.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Basically you're running a movie theater in.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
The living room. And uh, in the book and only imagine.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, and in the book, you know what do what
do people? What can they look forward to to learn
it about? Maybe some fun stories that you're really excited
about including in the book.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Well, the actually the beginnings of it in the home
are pretty interesting about people just prior to buying sets,
watching them on sidewalks, showing up at dealers who left
their sets on and sitting outdoors and cold weather watching them.
And you know, the poor salesman the next morning would
have to sweep up all this candy and stuff. And
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there was one instance for a dealer, a salesman actually
sweeping up some false teeth that they found out front
on a slidewalk.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
So yeah, so it was kind of messy. There are
some great stories.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
One in particular is the nineteen forty seven RCA Television Caravan,
and this was a group of twelve men and women
and they toured. They drove across the United States and
six jeep station wagons and if you can imagine going
over bumpy roads man with delicate television equipment. At that time,
you know, all television cameras had tubes. Yeah, And so
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they're going over bumpy roads and they're driving criss crossing
the country, going to twenty two United department stores and
in a day they set up a television studio to
demonstrate products that the sponsors who are paying for the
trip shown and people in these small towns, you know,
large and small cities across the country or is seeing
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television for the first time. And it was an interesting,
you know trip with these people going across the country.
And there were women who actually worked on this. There
was actually a female camera operator, which was pretty unusual
but was one of the few industries at the time
that were open to women. After the end of World
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War two.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
That's wild. It's still pretty rare to have unfortunately, I
mean to show you how the progress really hasn't hasn't
made up to that point. Still still pretty rare.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Yeah, you don't see it too often. And there are
a couple other great stories in here. One is about
the television manufacturers nineteen fifty there are some Things a
Son or Daughter Won't tell You advertising campaign, And the
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Television Manufacturers Association was made up of about ten television
manufacturers and they had this ad campaign that literally backfired
on them across the country. And in the ad they
had a boy and a girl who looked like they
were basically war orphans. Oh, and the headline says, there
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are some things a son or daughter won't tell you.
And basically the whole gist of this thing was that
if you didn't, if you were a parent and you
didn't buy a television sept for your child, you were
less than the people you know reading this the newspapers.
You know, there was a lot of blowback, particularly for
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an educator by the name of Angelo Petrick, who lent
his name to this campaign, and he had been a
well known educator for about thirty years prior to this.
He had a syndicated newspaper column and they he became
the butt of their anger, and a lot of parents
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were demanding that their local newspapers dropped his column.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
And he was forced into a corner and had to
explain himself. Ela R. Roosevelt got infalled because she was
part of this campaign, and so yeah, so she pulled
her support initially till they decided to change the ad campaign,
which they finally did, but you know, by then, the
damage was already done. And this thing.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
I tell the story in depth in the book, and
it just goes just when you think you can't get
any worse, and it's it's quite an amazing story that
hasn't been told. In fact, most of the stuff in
the book is new information that nobody's seen before.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
We're speaking with Steven Steve Kosaf, the author of The
Glass Eye Invasion television sets invade the mid century home.
The book is now available everywhere books are sold, including Amazon.
Is there a place that you want people to buy
this book, because I know some people don't like to
get them on online retailers. They like local. Is it
better on website?
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Where should we find the book?
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Well, you can get it basically everywhere Amazon and Barnes
and Noble have that you can order it from them.
You can actually order it from your local bookstore or
a gift shop for that matter. I like Amazon because
I think their print version of it came out much better.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
They just seem to do a little better job. The
colors pop that much more. There you go, So I
would go with them even if you don't like Amazon.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
But well, thank you, Steve. Appreciate you calling. Like I said,
the book is available now. Glass Eye Invasion is what
it's called. It's all about stories from nineteen the mid
nineteen forties all the way to the early nineteen fifties,
talking about when television invaded the mid century home and
how it shaped culture, plus a lot of fun stories
(26:16):
that have never been told about it. Steve, thank you
so much for being a part of the show. We
will talk to you real soon and let us know
when the next book comes out. Okay, I we'll do Steve.
There he goes, well that's fun. Did you like watching
TV as a kid?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Ronner?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Sorry?
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Yeah, it really took all the self restrained I had
not to jump in and start asking him a bunch
of questions.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
You could, what do you mean this is a listen?
I have no ownership over the airwaves.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
I'm just following your lead, but I mean it's that
period especially is interesting when you hear about things like say,
I love Lucy kind of dictating how middle class American
families thought their houses should look.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
That's such a good point and that exists continually today
to people wanting to make their house look like a
Nancy Myers movie or whatever the social media influencer of
your choice is doing.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
And I really like old TV from that area, like
Route sixty six, because all the regional places still look
different and had their own character.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah. Yeah, that's where every place looks the same. Well, man,
we should call Steve back Yew can get back on
the phone. All right, Well is it is it time?
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Let's do it?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
All right?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Last couple of minutes here, we were so behind the
whole show. I got to like ten percent of what
I wanted to get to. That dang pursuit, that dang Dodgers,
my stupid story about ties.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Well I kind of initiated that way. I take responsibility.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I have a real bad time with add So it
is a shiny thing, you know, I'll go for it.
By the way, AI music is just getting horrifically good,
like to the point where like I don't even know
that it's not AI anymore. Listen to this song for
a second. Okay, so you're like, yeah, cool, whatever. It's
(28:11):
just like an eighties pop thing, sounds a little synthesized,
share whatever, right, we get it. Now, listen to this
make them.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Just pass on a home bound.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
It's from Reimagined AI. It's a YouTube channel that reimagines
pop songs in different eras. This is not a revolutionary idea,
but the thing is that it is unfortunately awesome. I
am a musical purist. I believe in humans making music.
(28:55):
I don't know what to do about this because this
is the first time that I've heard for real AI
generated music that I wouldn't be able to tell you
was fake. And I also feel like it has merit
on its own, which is a really weird thing to feel,
a weird thing to say. A lot of the AI
stuff is garbage. You watch like a lot of those
(29:17):
Suno videos of people making music with AI and it sucks,
But this is a weird I don't know what this
means for the future. This Sunday on The Andy Reesemeyer
Show between two and four pm on KFI, I will
be interviewing mister Rob Cavallo. He'll be joining us in studio,
super producer. He is the man behind one hundred and
(29:38):
thirty million sales of records worldwide, three time Grammy winner.
You know, has worked with Green Day, my Chemical Romance,
Eric Clapton, Lincoln Park, and my favorite, the Goo Goo Dolls.
Produced all of those giant Googoo Dolls records. Iris. The
reason it sounds like that, it's because Cavallo. So he'll
(30:01):
be with us on Sunday. I'm going to ask him
about the AI music revolution. I don't like it. I'm
not into It freaks me out a little bit. It's
kind of a weird time to contemplate what it means
to make things.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
My recommendation as that you shun it.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, I mean I do. I think I've been pretty
open about hating chat, GPT and AI and all this stuff.
I think it's terrible.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
At the very least, it should all be labeled so
at least we know what we're getting.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Totally totally. This is a weird thing, though, because it's
the first time I've heard someone was like, Oh, that's
that's kind of a it's kind of a banger. Did
it make you feel like you had a mullet again? Yeah,
it wasn't that long ago that I had one, though,
you know over COVID everybody was doing it.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Yeah. I had some really ill advised hair stuff going
on too before you started, And I'm not.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Proud of it. I can kind of feel like that
it would be a thing for you, though, I can
see it working in sort of a craft work kind
of way.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
No options are limited, you got to stick with what works.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I hear you. COVID really made a lot of us
get slovenly. Oh my god, I had a really disgusting beard. Really,
I can't grow a beard. I mean like, not only
I'm not really supposed to have a beard on TV,
but I also like physically can't grow a beard very well.
I love it like a little health food store hippie guy.
It's worse than that. It's just like scraggly. It's like
like watching a little uh, one of those little uh
(31:30):
you know, a Western movie, the thing bouncing around the
down down the road, you know, the tumbleweed, like tumbleweed
growing on my face.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Well, I guess I'm gonna need to see that now
in addition to the neck type pic.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
The energy was great in southern California leading up to,
of course, this first game of the World Series tonight,
where the Toronto Blue Jays just crushed our Los Angeles
Dodgers eleven of four. Oof joining us now, my good
friend and yours, mister Dodger himself, Eric Spilman, live on
the phone via from all the way from Canada.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yes, what a beat down?
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Huh yeah, man, hw brutal, It was brutal. What happened.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
What happened was that the Blue Jays, first of all,
I think are kind of underrated or underestimated by Dodger fans.
I mean, they're a very good hitting team, and they
proved it tonight, and they exploited the Dodgers' weakness, which
is their bullpen. Blake Snell had an okay game. He
was sort of struggling a little bit with control. They
took him out of the game and they brought in
(00:55):
Imagean and that's when things went downhill really really quick.
Blue Jay's got a grand slam Hoad home run, and
they got another home run all of a sudden, Before
you know it, they'd scored what was it nine runs
in that one inning?
Speaker 2 (01:10):
Yeah, crazy, they just exploded.
Speaker 3 (01:14):
But this is a team that is a really good team,
you know, and if you're a Dodger fan, you're thinking, wow,
we blew past Milwaukee. You know, the postseason has been
a breeze for the Dodgers. Well, guess what, now we're
playing the Blue Jays and they are a very very
good team. And so you know, first of all, it's
(01:34):
only Game one, and the theory is going around and
I knew i'd hear this. Oh, the Dodgers had a
week off. That's why this happened, because they had a
you know, they just they weren't playing baseball and for
that reason, they were rusty. And you know, this is
this is the result if they if they had played
(01:54):
continuously like like the Blue Jays did you know, and
did not have a long rest, that they would have done.
Speaker 2 (02:00):
Do you put a lot of stock in that, No,
that's just.
Speaker 3 (02:03):
Sort of the common thing. I knew I was going
to hear that. Yeah, and sure enough people said that
on social media and other people have said it as well.
I don't know, yeah, you know, I just think that,
you know, they had a bad game, you know, the
plan that the Dodgers have, the strategy that they have
is the starters need to go extremely long. They need
(02:24):
to pitch into the eighth inning. You know, That's what
happened before, and that's how they were able to have success.
They bypassed the bullpen. You didn't go to the bullpen.
That's how you win, right, And then maybe you bring
in Sasaki at the end. In this case, you know,
five full innings from Blake Snell, he gets into the
sixth inning, he gets into trouble, you bring in relievers,
(02:45):
and then things just didn't work out.
Speaker 2 (02:47):
Now, are there any actual Dodger fans in Toronto with
you there? Or is it just you and the media?
There's not a lot.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
I mean, I'll be honest with you.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
It's expensive to get here. It's far. Tickets were expensive.
I I just don't think a lot of people made
the trip. And I understand why there's there's There are
a few, and you know, they they were excited coming
into this and afterwards they told us, hey, we haven't
lost faith. It's only game one. You know, we'll see
what happens tomorrow.
Speaker 2 (03:17):
Yeah, what are you feeling for tomorrow?
Speaker 5 (03:20):
Well?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
I mean Yamamoto is a great pitcher. I mean, perhaps
the strategy will work tomorrow if he has a really
good game and the Dodgers can get some hitting. They
miss some opportunities at the plate. Could have done better
in that regard, Yeah, at least at least towards the
beginning of the game. So yeah, I mean they could
you know, they could tie. I think the goal for
(03:42):
the Dodgers would would have been, and still is to
come away from this road trip these first two games
with one win. If they come back to LA with
one win, I think they'll be very happy.
Speaker 2 (03:53):
Yeah, I think that the momentum will shift there for sure. Well,
I don't want to keep you any longer. Thank you
so much for calling. I'm sure it's way past your
bedtime with the point, but you are the best as always,
keep us posted and if you're still there, when do
you come back? Sunday?
Speaker 3 (04:08):
Sunday?
Speaker 5 (04:08):
Okay?
Speaker 3 (04:09):
At a morning news broadcasting live from Dodger Stadium on Monday.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
How exciting is that?
Speaker 3 (04:14):
There we go Game three Monday night?
Speaker 2 (04:16):
All right, Eric Spilman from KTLA live from Toronto. Following
that beat down, brutal game. But hey, there's a reason
to be happy. That's because in southern California it's real
rad specifically tomorrow in the Port of Los Angeles, down
in Pedro or San Pedro. As you may have heard it,
(04:38):
Radwood is a celebration of automotive excellence from the eighties, nineties,
and I guess a little bit later than after that
as well. But you're seeing some really cool eighties and
nineties cars. You're portly nine eleven's your Ferrari testa Ross.
I've been before in the past. I love that era
(04:59):
of cars. Joining us now to talk more about it
from Radwood, it's Art Servantes, the director of the show,
joining us now live on KFI. Good evening, Thanks for.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Calling, hello, Well, thanks for having me.
Speaker 3 (05:12):
This is awesome.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
Hey, I was down there a couple of years ago.
I've got an early nineties BMW convertible that I think
is a perfect fit for the show. Is it too
late for me to bring it on down, Well, we.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Can make an exception for it if you. Mike, we
are officially sold out of car response, but we have
plenty of room for people. And you know, as you said,
this is a celebration of eighties and nineties culture, so
it's not just the cars that is at the core
of what we celebrate here, but we celebrate lifestyle, so
period correct clothing, accessories, music, and anything associated with the era.
(05:48):
So when you come to our events, you're going to
find all sorts of fun epemera, including people incorporating Nintendos
into the trunks of their cars, or a wide variety
of cars, just as you mentioned E thirty BMW's maybe
to Casterosa's Bugattis and everything in between.
Speaker 2 (06:06):
It's cool because I think that this is an era
of car that typically was not beloved or celebrated until
people maybe in our generation. I think we're probably about
the same age. We liked these cars because they were
the cars that were on the posters on the walls
of our bedrooms as kids. So now that we are
of age, I'm not going to you know, buying a
(06:28):
house might be out of the question, but I can
at least put some money down on a on early
nineteen nineties Mercedes sl SL rather. But you know, the
thing that's so great about it is, like you said,
it's a celebration of all of those cars maybe from
that era and also the culture. But you do have
very special cars as well. There like there's things that
(06:51):
you would never see anywhere else, very rare cars from
that era. What do you guys have this year?
Speaker 4 (06:57):
That's right? Yeah, And so one of the things that
I like to say is because there wasn't a platform
before us, and for the most part, we still continue
to be the premier event to celebrate this era. We
bring a lot of cars out of the woodwork that
you normally wouldn't see anywhere else, and so you're going
to see few G and x's of the world and
occasionally some very obscure, kind of rare versions of maybe
(07:20):
mundane cars that you kind of forgot existed. Right, And
I've been in the automotive space for a very long
time and I'm always surprised by what we end up
seeing air events. We do have some very heavy hidden cars,
for example, iconic, maybe priceless, the Michael Keaton nineteen eighty
(07:41):
nine Batmobile, also driven in the Batman Returns film. That's
at the core of our show what we call our
Radwood Royalty showcase inside of a super industrial warehouse, so
making for great photos. We have a NSX high bar,
which is an extremely rare, very valuable NSX now is
their sort of motorsport kind of racecar for the street edition.
(08:03):
And you're also going to see a lot of you know,
not necessarily super valuable cars, but just extremely clean examples.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Of who heard that cars from that from that area. Yeah, totally, totally.
I remember you have like a bunch of like European
only versions of like BMW wagons. There's a Japanese import
section as well. I mean, you've got really cool stuff
that shows really well, and like I said, things that
maybe you know, didn't get the kind of love and
(08:30):
appreciation back when they were being produced and so they
didn't get preserved. But then there's the couple of them
that did get preserved that actually end up on your
show floor, which is such a cool, cool thing to see.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
One hundred percent. And one of them, one of the
cars that I tend to see at our events and
nowhere else these days, is the Chrysler K car. Are
you familiar with those?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
No?
Speaker 2 (08:51):
What is that?
Speaker 4 (08:53):
So this is ann in the eighties basically Chrysler trying
to compete with the Japanese import or from trying to
make an efficient, you know, compact vehicle that you had
four doors and can you know, transport a family with
their around.
Speaker 2 (09:10):
I just googled it and I definitely I remember it now, Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 4 (09:15):
You remember those things. Yeah, and so those are obsolete now, right,
They simply god exists. They've all rusted away and now
you're c and pop up at our events.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
The most part the production line with rust as a future.
Speaker 4 (09:26):
Actually this is true. Yeah, and you know one of
the things that we're seeing now, just as you're describing, right,
historically there wasn't a place to celebrate this era and
as we see this generational FIP happening right where like, yes,
I love hot rods, I love muscle cars too, I
love everything, but this is what's most relevant to me.
And we have people like Brettestein Fires who are now
(09:46):
producing tires that are specific for these cars.
Speaker 2 (09:50):
Yeah, weird, weird like fourteen and stuff like.
Speaker 6 (09:55):
That, you know.
Speaker 5 (09:56):
Yah.
Speaker 4 (09:57):
Yeah, So you know we're we're all like now, you know,
as we're preserving these cars and there's more attention being
paid to them. You know, we have partners like that
and companies in all over the industry that are producing
products to taylor to these particular vehicles because we cherish them,
and you know, and there's a big opportunity to last.
Want to see that happening.
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Absolutely, last question before we get out of here. If
you are in the market for a cool car that
you think is going to be a future classic. I mean,
obviously you can't buy anything anymore that's now valuable, but like,
what's in that I think it's probably late nineties, early
two thousands. What's in that window now for a car
that you think that you would be like, Okay, I
think this is going to be a future classic that
(10:39):
you can pick up for a couple of grand these days.
Speaker 4 (10:42):
Oh a couple of grand, that's stuff, let's say so.
But yeah, I think you're going to find some gems
out there where we're seeing stuff, especially the Dapanese cars,
they're still a little bit more attainable and affordable, and
so I feel like your Nissan performance vehicles of the era,
right so you're three hundred GX quint turbos, you know,
(11:02):
things of that nature. They still you know, they're they're
maybe fifteen grand for like a decent driver, but they're
not fifty yet, you know, but they're kind of making
their way town with their low Mileshine examples are super cheap.
But one other thing that is of interest here is
that we're starting, as you're saying, yeah, like starting to
see that more interest in the early two thousand again,
(11:22):
that that ship happening right as all of these folks
get established and seek out the stuff they left it
after when they were kids, and so there's a lot
more value there, I feel like, you know that, Like
for example, like if you start, you start with performance stuff, right,
so like the Mustang gts of the early two thousands,
and you know again with the Camaro equivalents, the performance trucks.
(11:43):
Those are all really cool and they're still you know,
sub twenty for really really clean examples. Yeah, and those
are all starting to actually move up, and we're seeing
that in auction results and across the industry well.
Speaker 2 (11:54):
Very good art surroundings from Bradwood kicks off tomorrow at
eleven am at the Port of Los Angeles. That's in
San Pedro Celebration, the premiere automotive festival focused on style,
culture cars of the eighties and nineties. You do not
want to miss it. I've been many times. It's such
a great time, especially if those are cars from your
own childhood.
Speaker 1 (12:15):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (12:19):
I I'm Andy Reesmeyer. You can find me on the
internet at Andy KTLA. If you'd like to say hello,
that's on the Instagram dms, or if you'd like to
maybe even find me on Twitter x formerly known as Twitter.
Speaker 5 (12:32):
You've popped up in my Facebook recommendations.
Speaker 2 (12:34):
And you know what's amazing, Runner, is that I haven't
received a friend request.
Speaker 5 (12:39):
Well, Reesemeyer, since we're going with high school last names tonight,
I'm taking issue with the necktie you're wearing in that photo.
Speaker 2 (12:49):
Oh and because it's a skinny tie.
Speaker 5 (12:52):
Well, I don't know what kind of not that is,
or if it's like a tourniquet or a wind sock.
I don't know what you're doing with your necktie. It's
pretty bad. I mean, that was a weird tie. I
remember that day.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
I was not supposed that the photo was not supposed
to be taken that day. I wasn't gonna it was
a bad it was all. It was bad all around.
You're right, I should change it.
Speaker 5 (13:08):
Does anybody take responsibility for anything anymore?
Speaker 2 (13:11):
I don't know. You know, I think that, if anything,
I'm going to start rejecting any kind of uh onus
when it comes to shirt compatibility to tie not like,
there's just far too much to know now. The old
era of men's wear has been replaced by a billion
different shirts, a billion different tie knots. There's all these
(13:34):
rules now about how a guy should look. You know,
you can't wear a skinny tie with a spread call.
I mean, it's like there's too many things to pay
attention to.
Speaker 5 (13:42):
All right, listen, I'm gonna help you out here. You
can never go wrong with a regular old half wins
or not. Okay, okay, well that's good. Tony's shaking his head.
What's your problem? Yeah, Tony, what's your deal? Dude?
Speaker 2 (13:54):
You got an issue with the boy talk over here
about I just don't know what any of that stuff
is even you're so Oh. I wear band shirts and
cargo shorts. Okay, stay out of this. I wear a
suit every day, like a real buttoned up suit with
a tight collar and a and a double windsor not
usually in the in the tie. Oh, like the full
(14:15):
windsor that's like the size of a fist. Yeah, I
because the spread collar. You got to do that a
little bit. But this was the photo that was taken
was like two years ago is before I was wearing
a tie every day, so I didn't really understand. But
you know, the television as it were, is the gift
that has given me so much in my life. I
love TV. Before I ever dreamed of working in it,
(14:37):
I watched it constantly. It was always on in the house.
My parents loved I mean, we didn't watch anything except news, really,
but my parents paid attention to the news anchors.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
That's kind of child abuse. They only showed you a
news Oh.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
My god, we watched the I remember watching the OJ
Pursuit on the kitchen counter like as a you know,
I mean, and I was like five, probably five or six.
Speaker 5 (15:02):
Oh, I would have called CPS on your folks.
Speaker 2 (15:04):
No, no, I mean, I loved it. It was a
great education. And you know, I think to end up
working in TV. What I always say is I got
into TV because that was what my parents paid attention to,
and that's what they Those are the people who they validated.
So in order to get attention from my parents, I
went into TV.
Speaker 5 (15:18):
And so now you feel more real. Yeah, yeah, now
I feel defined.
Speaker 2 (15:22):
Okay, But TV was a big deal in my life
and I love thinking about TV and the history of TV,
and you know KTLA just like KFI legacy stations. They've
been around forever, and I think that it's no I
am constantly reminded of the privilege I have to be
at a place that people care about and that they
(15:43):
like and that they have a relationship with forever. And
TV I think was very unique in that. And a
new book called The Glass Eye Invasion Television Sets Invade
the mid Century Home is all about how TV invaded
the house in the fifties and shape culture. It's written
by an author named Stephen Steve KOs Ref who's joining
(16:06):
us now via the telephone. Steve, do you hear me? H?
Speaker 4 (16:09):
I sure do, Eddie. Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Thank you for Colin, and thanks for writing the book.
You know, I know that you've written about television, probably
first book maybe twenty years ago. And yeah, TV is
in twenty years has become so different than it was
in two thousand and five. But take me back with
this new book to the fifties. I want you to
(16:32):
sort of reflect on what TV presented. What I want
to say, what it did to culture because that's sort
of loaded, but what it created, and I want you
to maybe even if you can compare that to or
can you compare that to how the internet has changed
us social media has changed us.
Speaker 6 (16:51):
Yeah, there's parallel, that's for sure. I think people going
into reading this book have to sort of imagine a
time before smartphone, computers, tablets, even television sets. Not so
long ago, the only way you could see a moving
image was to go into a movie theater, or if
you were wealthy enough, you know, you had a whole
(17:12):
movie projector you know, radio was king then of you know,
the network television shows we see now, we're only on
radio at that point, and so people listened to the radio.
If they wanted to go out to see a moving image,
they went to a movie. And television had been spoken
about for oh, you know, one hundred years prior to that,
(17:32):
and you know, it was always just around the corner,
always just around the corner. And it wasn't until the
mid nineteen thirties that it actually looked like become a reality.
But unfortunately, World War two, you know, came about, and
that put everything on the back burner for a while.
But once that ended, you know, people had a lot
of money. There were a lot of suburban families at
(17:53):
that point, and so the stars had aligned for it
to take off at that point and for a very
short period of time, basically five years from like nineteen
forty eight to fifty three is what I cover in
The Glass Eye Invasion. When television sets invaded, literally invaded
the American home. Yeah, and how that changed, you know,
(18:18):
the culture and relationships even within the family.
Speaker 2 (18:21):
Yeah, Steve, I'll tell you what I'm up against. A
heartbreak here, but can you stick with us? And after
the commercial break we'll continue to talk about this awesome
new book. Sure, Glass Eye Invasion by Steve koser F
will pick up this conversation on the other side.
Speaker 1 (18:35):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand talking.
Speaker 2 (18:39):
With Steve kosa F from The Glass Eye Invasion. It's
a book he wrote about television sets invading the mid
century home. We're talking about the I don't know if
you would call it a golden era, maybe the beginning
era of television and how it shaped culture. What do
you think would be the biggest surprise to the media
consumer of twenty twenty five if they were to turn
(19:01):
on a broadcast back in the late forties the early fifties, Well.
Speaker 6 (19:07):
I think they'd actually have to see inside a home
the family watching it, particularly if they were the first
family on a block to have a television set, because
once they threw up that antenna on the roof, they
would draw neighbors like flies.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Because right in Back to the Future, which forgive me,
I know it's not you know, a piece of record
as far as the fifties, but you know, they do
make a lot of jokes in the movie made in
the eighties, obviously, but they make jokes about how they're
the first TV set that they ever got, and Marty
talks about having two TVs. And I think Marty's uncle,
(19:46):
who's a kid in the Yeah, if you've seen the movie,
you get it's like, Wow, two TVs, you must be rich,
which is funny to think about now because they feel
like that, you know, they're giving away TVs.
Speaker 4 (19:59):
Well, that was pretty much. I mean, my family was
the same situation. We had one television set until I
sold Christmas cards when I was fourteen to buy my own. Wow,
and you know, my parents hog that set. They I
wasn't watching what I wanted to.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
I watched The Lawrence Welk Show and whatever else they
were watching, which I didn't particularly like, so I understand that,
but you know what the first sets, people would either
drop over unannounced or they might have television parties which
often people dressed up for and the host was expected
(20:34):
to supply snacks, and you know, often these people did not,
They did not bring their own snacks. You know, they
were mooching off their hosts.
Speaker 2 (20:43):
This is outrageous. So you got to buy the TV
and also supply the snacks.
Speaker 6 (20:49):
Basically you're running a movie theater in.
Speaker 4 (20:51):
The living room. And uh, in the book and only imagine.
Speaker 2 (20:55):
Yeah, and in the book, you know what do what
do people? What can they look forward to to learn
it about? Maybe some fun stories that you're really excited
about including in the book.
Speaker 6 (21:05):
Well, the actually the beginnings of it in the home
are pretty interesting about people just prior to buying sets,
watching them on sidewalks, showing up at dealers who left
their sets on and sitting outdoors and cold weather watching them.
And you know, the poor salesman the next morning would
have to sweep up all this candy and stuff. And
(21:27):
there was one instance for a dealer, a salesman actually
sweeping up some false teeth that they found out front
on a slidewalk.
Speaker 2 (21:35):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (21:35):
So yeah, so it was kind of messy. There are
some great stories.
Speaker 6 (21:41):
One in particular is the nineteen forty seven RCA Television Caravan,
and this was a group of twelve men and women
and they toured. They drove across the United States and
six jeep station wagons and if you can imagine going
over bumpy roads man with delicate television equipment. At that time,
you know, all television cameras had tubes. Yeah, And so
(22:06):
they're going over bumpy roads and they're driving criss crossing
the country, going to twenty two United department stores and
in a day they set up a television studio to
demonstrate products that the sponsors who are paying for the
trip shown and people in these small towns, you know,
large and small cities across the country or is seeing
(22:27):
television for the first time. And it was an interesting,
you know trip with these people going across the country.
And there were women who actually worked on this. There
was actually a female camera operator, which was pretty unusual
but was one of the few industries at the time
that were open to women. After the end of World
(22:48):
War two.
Speaker 2 (22:49):
That's wild. It's still pretty rare to have unfortunately, I
mean to show you how the progress really hasn't hasn't
made up to that point. Still still pretty rare.
Speaker 6 (23:00):
Yeah, you don't see it too often. And there are
a couple other great stories in here. One is about
the television manufacturers nineteen fifty there are some Things a
Son or Daughter Won't tell You advertising campaign, And the
(23:21):
Television Manufacturers Association was made up of about ten television
manufacturers and they had this ad campaign that literally backfired
on them across the country. And in the ad they
had a boy and a girl who looked like they
were basically war orphans. Oh, and the headline says, there
(23:44):
are some things a son or daughter won't tell you.
And basically the whole gist of this thing was that
if you didn't, if you were a parent and you
didn't buy a television sept for your child, you were
less than the people you know reading this the newspapers.
You know, there was a lot of blowback, particularly for
(24:06):
an educator by the name of Angelo Petrick, who lent
his name to this campaign, and he had been a
well known educator for about thirty years prior to this.
He had a syndicated newspaper column and they he became
the butt of their anger, and a lot of parents
(24:29):
were demanding that their local newspapers dropped his column.
Speaker 4 (24:33):
And he was forced into a corner and had to
explain himself. Ela R. Roosevelt got infalled because she was
part of this campaign, and so yeah, so she pulled
her support initially till they decided to change the ad campaign,
which they finally did, but you know, by then, the
damage was already done. And this thing.
Speaker 6 (24:54):
I tell the story in depth in the book, and
it just goes just when you think you can't get
any worse, and it's it's quite an amazing story that
hasn't been told. In fact, most of the stuff in
the book is new information that nobody's seen before.
Speaker 2 (25:10):
We're speaking with Steven Steve Kosaf, the author of The
Glass Eye Invasion television sets invade the mid century home.
The book is now available everywhere books are sold, including Amazon.
Is there a place that you want people to buy
this book, because I know some people don't like to
get them on online retailers. They like local. Is it
better on website?
Speaker 5 (25:29):
Like?
Speaker 2 (25:29):
Where should we find the book?
Speaker 6 (25:31):
Well, you can get it basically everywhere Amazon and Barnes
and Noble have that you can order it from them.
You can actually order it from your local bookstore or
a gift shop for that matter. I like Amazon because
I think their print version of it came out much better.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
They just seem to do a little better job. The
colors pop that much more. There you go, So I
would go with them even if you don't like Amazon.
Speaker 2 (25:56):
But well, thank you, Steve. Appreciate you calling. Like I said,
the book is available now. Glass Eye Invasion is what
it's called. It's all about stories from nineteen the mid
nineteen forties all the way to the early nineteen fifties,
talking about when television invaded the mid century home and
how it shaped culture, plus a lot of fun stories
(26:16):
that have never been told about it. Steve, thank you
so much for being a part of the show. We
will talk to you real soon and let us know
when the next book comes out. Okay, I we'll do Steve.
There he goes, well that's fun. Did you like watching
TV as a kid?
Speaker 4 (26:31):
Ronner?
Speaker 2 (26:34):
Sorry?
Speaker 5 (26:34):
Yeah, it really took all the self restrained I had
not to jump in and start asking him a bunch
of questions.
Speaker 2 (26:39):
You could, what do you mean this is a listen?
I have no ownership over the airwaves.
Speaker 5 (26:44):
I'm just following your lead, but I mean it's that
period especially is interesting when you hear about things like say,
I love Lucy kind of dictating how middle class American
families thought their houses should look.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
That's such a good point and that exists continually today
to people wanting to make their house look like a
Nancy Myers movie or whatever the social media influencer of
your choice is doing.
Speaker 5 (27:08):
And I really like old TV from that area, like
Route sixty six, because all the regional places still look
different and had their own character.
Speaker 2 (27:16):
Yeah. Yeah, that's where every place looks the same. Well, man,
we should call Steve back Yew can get back on
the phone. All right, Well is it is it time?
Speaker 5 (27:26):
Let's do it?
Speaker 2 (27:26):
All right?
Speaker 1 (27:27):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (27:31):
Last couple of minutes here, we were so behind the
whole show. I got to like ten percent of what
I wanted to get to. That dang pursuit, that dang Dodgers,
my stupid story about ties.
Speaker 5 (27:46):
Well I kind of initiated that way. I take responsibility.
Speaker 2 (27:49):
I have a real bad time with add So it
is a shiny thing, you know, I'll go for it.
By the way, AI music is just getting horrifically good,
like to the point where like I don't even know
that it's not AI anymore. Listen to this song for
a second. Okay, so you're like, yeah, cool, whatever. It's
(28:11):
just like an eighties pop thing, sounds a little synthesized,
share whatever, right, we get it. Now, listen to this
make them.
Speaker 4 (28:29):
Just pass on a home bound.
Speaker 2 (28:35):
It's from Reimagined AI. It's a YouTube channel that reimagines
pop songs in different eras. This is not a revolutionary idea,
but the thing is that it is unfortunately awesome. I
am a musical purist. I believe in humans making music.
(28:55):
I don't know what to do about this because this
is the first time that I've heard for real AI
generated music that I wouldn't be able to tell you
was fake. And I also feel like it has merit
on its own, which is a really weird thing to feel,
a weird thing to say. A lot of the AI
stuff is garbage. You watch like a lot of those
(29:17):
Suno videos of people making music with AI and it sucks,
But this is a weird I don't know what this
means for the future. This Sunday on The Andy Reesemeyer
Show between two and four pm on KFI, I will
be interviewing mister Rob Cavallo. He'll be joining us in studio,
super producer. He is the man behind one hundred and
(29:38):
thirty million sales of records worldwide, three time Grammy winner.
You know, has worked with Green Day, my Chemical Romance,
Eric Clapton, Lincoln Park, and my favorite, the Goo Goo Dolls.
Produced all of those giant Googoo Dolls records. Iris. The
reason it sounds like that, it's because Cavallo. So he'll
(30:01):
be with us on Sunday. I'm going to ask him
about the AI music revolution. I don't like it. I'm
not into It freaks me out a little bit. It's
kind of a weird time to contemplate what it means
to make things.
Speaker 4 (30:17):
You know.
Speaker 5 (30:19):
My recommendation as that you shun it.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Yeah, I mean I do. I think I've been pretty
open about hating chat, GPT and AI and all this stuff.
I think it's terrible.
Speaker 5 (30:33):
At the very least, it should all be labeled so
at least we know what we're getting.
Speaker 2 (30:37):
Totally totally. This is a weird thing, though, because it's
the first time I've heard someone was like, Oh, that's
that's kind of a it's kind of a banger. Did
it make you feel like you had a mullet again? Yeah,
it wasn't that long ago that I had one, though,
you know over COVID everybody was doing it.
Speaker 5 (30:52):
Yeah. I had some really ill advised hair stuff going
on too before you started, And I'm not.
Speaker 2 (30:56):
Proud of it. I can kind of feel like that
it would be a thing for you, though, I can
see it working in sort of a craft work kind
of way.
Speaker 5 (31:03):
No options are limited, you got to stick with what works.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
I hear you. COVID really made a lot of us
get slovenly. Oh my god, I had a really disgusting beard. Really,
I can't grow a beard. I mean like, not only
I'm not really supposed to have a beard on TV,
but I also like physically can't grow a beard very well.
I love it like a little health food store hippie guy.
It's worse than that. It's just like scraggly. It's like
like watching a little uh, one of those little uh
(31:30):
you know, a Western movie, the thing bouncing around the
down down the road, you know, the tumbleweed, like tumbleweed
growing on my face.
Speaker 5 (31:38):
Well, I guess I'm gonna need to see that now
in addition to the neck type pic.
Speaker 2 (31:41):
Sure it's kf I AM six forty. We're live everywhere
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