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October 17, 2025 32 mins
Michael J. Fox wrote a memoir titled “Future Boy,” and is doing the press rounds. He talks about his Back to the Future costar Crispin Glover, who was rumored to be difficult on set. Nancy Pelosi snapped “shut up!” at a reporter who asked her questions about January 6. Bay Area mortgage broker James Reddick chats with Andy about mortgage rates going down. The LA Times has come up with a list of restaurants that cost $50 for two people to eat. 
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand The
Power of Love.

Speaker 2 (00:06):
Of course, we know that song from Back to the Future,
which is this month, celebrating forty years since that movie
came out October of nineteen eighty five. I mean, Andy Resmi,
this is KFI AM six forty. We are live everywhere
on the iHeartRadio app. This is my favorite movie of
all time. I make no bones about it. Michael J.

(00:29):
Fox has been doing a little bit of a media tour,
a blitz, if you will. There's a lot of celebration
about the fortieth anniversary of the film, but there also
is celebration because he's written a new memoir called Future Boy,
which of course is a reference to Doc's nickname for Marty. Listen,
good night, future Boy. And I've always wondered, as maybe

(00:53):
you have you watch the movie a million times. It's
just a cultural it's a part of culture that's so
un touched. I guess is the right phrasing, though I
don't love that because there's only the three movies. There's
like a TV series, an animated show, there's the Ride,
there's the musical couple, video games here and there, but

(01:13):
it's not like Star Wars, where there's five hundred movies.
It's been rebooted a million times. We told the story
different ways. It's just those three films that's it. And
I think that that makes it pure in a sense
because it just existed in this very specific time with
these very specific actors, pretty small story compared to, you know,

(01:34):
an entire universe of fighting like in Star Wars. And
as you know, Crispin Glover, who played George McFly, Marty's father,
his antics are well known. He didn't come back for
the second and the third movies because, as Bob Gail,
the director writer has said, our co creator rather and

(01:56):
writer has said, it's a mechis directed it. Crispin wanted
the same amount of money as Marty or as Michael J. Fox.
None of this is that important. There's a lot of
dispute about this. But I always wondered what Michael J.
Fox thought of Crispin Glover. I wondered how that was
working with him, because you know, he's in a ton
of scenes with him in this movie. And recently he

(02:19):
talked a deadline all I'm sorry. He talked to the
New York Post and said there was a little bit
of friction working with him, but he respected how he
remained true to George. And Michael J. Fox says Crispin
Glover's talent was unquestionable, although his methods sometimes created friction.

(02:39):
He said, quote, nobody puts Crispin in a box, but
that didn't prevent the camera crew from literally building a
box around him. He was remembering a scene of dialogue
with Glover, who was playing George McFly, in which Crispin
wouldn't stay on his mark. As Crispin approached the camera,
he was meant to stay in a lane between the
clothesline and me, but Crispin had a different My guess

(03:01):
is he saw George as a wanderer of free spirit
who traveled in random patterns, in this case perpendicular to
the camera. This is the scene where I think they're
planning what's going to happen when he gets to the
enchantment end of the sea dance. It's an act. So
the crew made a miniature corral made of sandbags and
sea stands, which trapped Crispin into adhering to the established

(03:22):
blocking of the shot. And Michael J. Fox says he
loved working with Glover and that he knew Crispin before
Back to the Future, and I love this. He added this,
I wouldn't say I was prepared to act with him.
There's no way to prepare for Crispin. With Chris Lloyd,
who obviously played Doc, I had an inkling of what

(03:43):
he was up to. Neither he nor Crispin ever did
the same thing the same way twice. How cool? What
an iconic movie forty years ago.

Speaker 3 (03:53):
Have you seen the recent reports that Michael J. Fox
got together with Eric Stoltz, who was the original Marty
but got fired.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Yes, and he said that it didn't make them enemies,
that they kind of liked each other. I like that,
don't you.

Speaker 4 (04:05):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (04:05):
I love that. It's another thing, you know. You know
all these stories about Eric Stoles They filmed half the
movie and had to recast him because he just didn't
have the right chemistry. He was too dark for Marty.
They needed somebody a little bit brighter. But then you
don't really know what those individual actors took away from that,
And I think it's cool to hear those stories now.

Speaker 3 (04:24):
Trivia, you know who Chrispin Glover's dad was, No Bruce Glover,
who was one of the pair of gay bad guys
in Diamonds Are Forever who tried to kill James Bond
in several different ways.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
Does he look like him? Oh yeah, I mean he
passed away recently, but oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely, Okay,
I didn't know. Yeah that that is the genetics are
strong with the Glover family.

Speaker 3 (04:46):
He is directly related to the mister Wynt and mister
Kidd couple. Kind of revolutionary for the early seventies. Yeah,
gay bad guys, what a trip. I didn't know that.

Speaker 2 (04:57):
I maybe had remembered that when he passed away, but
I have had cleared the cash on whatever happened that month.
But you got limited bandwidth, you know, Lord knows, we're
all just hanging on. This is kind of interesting thing
that happened Washington today. I had some interesting sound that
I wanted to share with you. Nancy Pelosi in the

(05:18):
news for her comeback, her clapback, snapping at a reporter
who was asking about if she might face some kind
of repercussions for her alleged supposed involvement in January sixth.

Speaker 5 (05:34):
Are you at all concerned about the new January sixth
committee finding you wiable for that day? Why did you
refuse the National Guard on January sixth.

Speaker 6 (05:44):
Shut up, I did not refuse the national Guard. The
President didn't send it. Why are you coming here with
Republican talking points? As if you're as a serious journal.

Speaker 5 (05:53):
The American people want to know, we still have questions.
Thank you?

Speaker 2 (05:58):
Oh, I don't think a politically whatever, this is wild.

Speaker 1 (06:06):
Shut up.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
I think I want that as a drop. It's kind
of refreshing.

Speaker 1 (06:12):
Shut up.

Speaker 6 (06:17):
I did not refuse the National Guard. The President didn't
send it. Why are you coming here with Republican talking points?

Speaker 2 (06:23):
She loses it here a little bit.

Speaker 6 (06:25):
Talking points as if you're as a serious journal the.

Speaker 5 (06:28):
American people want to know we still have a question.

Speaker 2 (06:30):
I also think that I hate this. I know that
it's important to hold account the whole power, speak truth
the power. But even as a journalist and having done
something like this throughout my past, when I was first
starting out, when you would try to talk to people,
try to get sound for your package or whatever, especially
when you're on the red carpet and you're yelling at

(06:51):
Taylor Swift who's never going to stop for you, it
feels so yucky. I think you have to have a
specific kind of headspace that you can be in which
makes you want to go up and bumpy people with questions.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Well, my default would always be to side with the journalists,
but in this case, you got to do your homework,
and this journalist did not.

Speaker 2 (07:08):
Yeah, what's the follow up? What does she say here?

Speaker 5 (07:10):
Though the American people want to know, we still have questions.
Thank you.

Speaker 7 (07:15):
We have responsibility, Terry. We did not have any accountability
for what was going on there, and we should have.
This is ridiculous. You're gonna ask me in the middle
of the thing when they've already breached the inaugural stuff
that that should we call the Capitol police? I mean

(07:37):
the National Guard? Why weren't the National Guard there to
begin with?

Speaker 2 (07:42):
That was? That would have been that audio I think
was from Jase a couple of days after January sixth,
the second part of that audio, because it sounds like
she's wearing a mask. So it's just what I'm us
doing there, you go. Lots still coming up in the show.
Like I said, we're going to talk to a mortgage
broker about interest rates coming down? How so is that
whoa plus fifty dollars dinners? It's all in vogue. Ten

(08:09):
dollars coffees, fifty dollars dinners.

Speaker 1 (08:11):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

Speaker 2 (08:15):
Coming up on nine to nineteen on this Thursday, October sixteenth.
Lots to talk about this evening. Joining us via the
telephone is mister James Reddick, who is a mortgage broker
out of the Bay Area, always talks to us when
mortgage rates are on the move. Mister Reddick, Good evening.

Speaker 4 (08:34):
Eddie Reesemeyer, how are you, sir?

Speaker 2 (08:36):
I'm so well. Mortgage rates are quickly approaching long term lows.
But I guess long term is relative depending on how
long you've been looking at these, But I know that
in the past few days we've been hovering around ooh
six point one two five on an average, maybe even
a six point one something. What's going on?

Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah? Absolutely, race that make you salivate when we've been
living in and you know, the barren desert of a
horrid mortgage rate for going on and I think four
years now, So yeah, absolutely, it's been fantastic to see
them coming down over the recent days.

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Is there any specific reason why we might have expected
them to do this? I mean, I know that like
psychologically the six percent threshold is a big deal for
buyers and also people look into refinance.

Speaker 4 (09:25):
It really is. Yeah. You know, you see conflicting figures
there between whether or not six percent or five and
a half percent. It's kind of that that queue where
people feel more comfortable to move forward. And I know
here in near six percent, we're definitely seeing a lot
of home buyers start to jump into the market.

Speaker 6 (09:41):
Now.

Speaker 4 (09:41):
The decrease in interest rate that we're seeing is really
namely around the jobs report. You know, we've seen weakening inflation,
or rather a softening economy over the last few months,
but we weren't really sure to what extent that was
taking place, and now seeing the Jerome Powell basically step
in and say, yes, the jobs report is worse than

(10:03):
we thought. We're definitely seeing a pretty significant softening in
the economy, and they're signaling at potentially more rate cuts
than we had anticipated. And anytime the Fed signals that
they're going to cut rates, the market will generally respond
the bond market. So we saw a pretty significant drop

(10:24):
on Monday of this week.

Speaker 2 (10:25):
So one of the things that Mark Runter and I
were just talking about is that some posts have been
going viral. I'm going to go through a couple of
them and help us sort the fact from fiction. Please.
One of the things we saw was that the US
housing market has reached its most unaffordable level in history.
Is that true? Is it a surprise? Is it meaningful

(10:46):
even though it obviously hurts?

Speaker 4 (10:49):
I mean that's a complicated one. Right. Would I say
that houses or are as expensive as they've been in history?
I don't think so, to be honest, I think that
we're off of the high that we would have seen
in late twenty nineteen prior to COVID. Are we close?

Speaker 2 (11:07):
Sure?

Speaker 4 (11:07):
But as far as affordability goes, if the dollars weekend
and an inflation is still higher than we're used to
in the cost of everything is up, then potentially yes.
I think that the affordability is definitely an issue for
most Americans.

Speaker 2 (11:23):
There's also something that's going around on Twitter that has
like six million views that is basically a graph that
shows FAHA loan locks to immigrants without permanent residency, including
H one B visa holders. Now I'm getting in the
weeds here. I know this is hard to sort of
talk about numbers on the radio, but what they are
illustrating here is or they are alleging, is that since

(11:47):
the FHA ban went into effect in May of twenty
twenty five, that there was a huge drop in loan
locks for FAHA loans to immigrants without residency. Now, I
guess that makes sense, because that is what happened when
the ban happened. But then I think some are trying
to take this and say that this is indicative of

(12:10):
some kind of conspiracy where people who were not permanent
residents were taking up all of the housing.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
Sure, you know, I think I did see that graph.
So a couple things to point out there. The figure
was about six percent of FAHA homelocks were immigrants rather
H one B visa holders or non permanent residents. Right,
So that's six percent of FAHA loans not of conforming

(12:41):
or conventional loans. So FAHA is just one subset of
government backed mortgages, and it's the smaller of the larger
picture of mortgages. So FAHA loans total about fifteen percent
of the entire mortgage market. So this is six percent
of fifteen percent of the market. I think that's probably

(13:01):
about zero point eight or zero point nine percent of
all mortgage mortgage locks nationally, so we're talking about a
very small figure here to begin with. Secondly, H one
B visa holders, these are generally, you know, I think
that using the term immigrant is probably meant to be
intentionally inflammatory towards, you know, a certain demographic. H one

(13:24):
B visa holders are generally someone who is specialized in
a field, whether that's medicine, technology, you know, these are
folks in high paying jobs in the day area in
Los Angeles who are coming over here. They have substantial
down payments. One of the things that the post mentioned,
as I recall, is that it posted as if they're
taking advantage of a public welfare system. Now, FAH, loans

(13:48):
are backed by the government, but they're not a public
welfare system. You're not receiving free money. It is a
loan that you pay for with an interest rate and
a funding fee, just like you would any other So
to insinuate that they're somehow taking advantage of some sort
of an American you know, public benefit.

Speaker 2 (14:07):
Right taxpayer, I think, yeah, and there is.

Speaker 4 (14:10):
No taxpayer money going toward you know in Faha.

Speaker 2 (14:14):
Well, I'll tell you what. It's not the first time
something dubious was posted on the Internet. I'll just say
that much. Sometimes people post things that are inflammatory in
order to get attention, because, as we know, they make
money when their posts go viral. We don't have to
get into the details of all of that, but I
do I do appreciate that analysis. When you look at

(14:34):
this fall and into the winter, places like San Francisco
and Los Angeles a little bit different than maybe the
middle part of the country. I know I have family
members back in Indiana. The housing market there has just stopped.
Do you think the same is on the way for
these more, more busy metropolitan areas.

Speaker 4 (14:54):
I don't. And here's the reason. So you know, obviously
we have a much larger concentrate of the population here
right What I do think has happens. We've had a
slight softening in the market, so we've seen home prices
come down for the first time and you know, in
a very long time. However, there's still is a massive

(15:14):
pool of buyers who are waiting to buy. And I think,
you know, it's not even an issue of qualification, even
considering how expensive homes still are and higher interest rates,
it's really a question of comfort. I hosted an open
house here in the Bay Area last weekend and someone
came up to me and they said, you know, listen,
I've got a down payment, I've got the money saved,

(15:36):
my income's strong. I can buy a one point five
million dollar house. But should I? And then I think
that's the question on a lot of folks' minds, is
you know, I can afford to It's a stretch, but
I can do it. But should I? And what they
really want to know is is their security long term?
Is the economy going to be secure? Is this a
good investment for the money that I do have? Or

(15:58):
should I stay in the rental market? So I think
once we have a little bit of stability, I think
you'll see a lot of those buyers come into the
market pretty quickly. Well.

Speaker 2 (16:08):
That will be good for mortgage brokers, realtors and people
trying to sell them their homes for sure. James, thank
you so much for Colin. As always, how do people
find you on the internet?

Speaker 4 (16:19):
Thank you find me at search for James Reddick with
Barrett's Financial. James Reddick, That's Barrett Financial.

Speaker 2 (16:25):
Two rs and two teas. Thank you, buddie, you have
a great one. There, he goes James, James Reddick always
always nice to talk to him. And by the way,
James Reddick just became a father a couple of weeks ago.
How about that little baby Aloise. Congratulations to James. I
think he just hung up, but very very wonderful to
see that. See that happening.

Speaker 1 (16:47):
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Speaker 2 (16:51):
Rolling on here recipes stays freely seventy four too young, indeed,
Please say hello if you'd like to at Andy KTLA
on Instagram and also Twitter or x. I'm not on
Blue Sky. Didn't get the invite. I know it's open
to the public now. Too many social medias just waiting

(17:13):
for AI to come. Suck it all up, mark my words.
We were talking about coffee earlier and expensive coffee. Remember
that Clatch coffee in San Gabriel in the valley there
in the San Gabriel Valley seventy eight dollars latte. How
long can we go on like this? Like truly, something's

(17:37):
got to give. I don't know who has the money
for this kind of stuff. Dinner for two people and
a couple drinks regularly two hundred dollars at a I
mean fancy or trendy restaurant in Los Angeles. That's unusual.
That doesn't seem normal. It shouldn't be, but it kind
of is. LA Times came out with a list of

(18:02):
fifty restaurants maybe to help with this, where you can
eat dinner for under fifty dollars per person. These are
places where before tax and tip, the food is like
thirty eight dollars. That's how this works out. Includes a
twenty percent tip, so per person one hundred bucks. One
hundred buck date you know you could, That's that'd be
a good deal these days. Some standouts on the list

(18:27):
include Blood Cells a few locations there. Great Barbecue at
one point was kind of LA's only barbecue place. There
have been a few that have come and gone in
the era since there's a lot more. I think in
South Los Angeles, East Los Angeles Moosecraft I comes to mind.

(18:47):
Holy Basil is a fun tie spot in Atwater Village
that's also on the list. Father's Office. They just had
a location closed in Arts District, but I think they're
still open in Culver City and in Santa Monica. At
the original location, they got a great burger, great beer.
Do not ask for ketchup they will not give it
to you. It is a no ketchup establishment. I don't

(19:09):
get it. I don't understand why. I don't understand what
point you're making anymore.

Speaker 3 (19:15):
I get no ketchup on hot dogs because that's not
to be done.

Speaker 2 (19:20):
Sure, but well, what's the deal with burgers. Well, the
burger has maybe a mayo on it or something, and
I know that the fries you dip in they're aoli. Also,
let's not get too precious about the condiments, all right,
but you know it's there, right. There's a place called
Sonora Town in mid City. They have a famous burrito

(19:41):
called the Burrito two point zero. It's very good. The
whole list is available on La Times. They are strangely
missing islands. I didn't see islands on the list, nor
the Chili's in Woodland Hills. You can definitely have a
nice meal there for under fifty bucks. Also places that
are on the list, like found Oyster, which is in
East Hollywood, you can order a little piece of toast,

(20:06):
but that's hardly a meal. Bestia is also on the list,
but pretty much only if you get one of the pizzas.
When you go to those places, you really want to
have the things that they offer there that are great,
and unfortunately that means it's a lot of money. Other places.
I would love to add Big Deans in Santa Monica,
just a really consistent burger at a good price, big

(20:27):
old beers right on the water. There no pretense mess
hall in those feelis that's fun. Stout Hollywood. They used
to have one in Studio City. It was a great
late night hang and the Great Greek. Gotta love the
Great Greek, good authentic Greek food. Every time you're in there.

(20:47):
It's just Greek people. And also shout out mas Italian
Kitchen and Burbeck just up the street. And I got
to tell you, when I was dating, it could get
really expensive, especially when you're going out on dates with
somebody where you're probably not gonna see him again, you know,
because you meet somebody on the internet you can't account

(21:08):
for chemistry. Then you show up in real life and
you're sitting there and you're like, oh man, this is
just it's okay, it's not going to work. But I
still got to pay for dinner, because that's the rule.
If you're doing the asking, you got to be doing
the paying. Call me old fashioned, but I think that
that's the way it should go. I'll never forget this.
One time I went to a restaurant. God, it was

(21:32):
right after i'd moved to LA I think I met
somebody like on ok Cupid. So this was probably like
twenty twelve or twenty thirteen, and I was so broke.
I had no money. You know, you're a kid. You're
like twenty two years old, twenty three years old. You
got no money. You can't go out to dinner, even
though dinner was half the cost it is now. I
went to the dinner with this date, first date better

(21:55):
on the internet. It's going okay. I think she's pretty attractive.
Maybe there's gonna be another day. Perhaps waiter makes a
round after we have our food wrapping up. You know,
can I get you anything else? She goes, yeah, I'd
love to look at the menu. Uh oh, I said, okay, yeah,

(22:15):
we'll probably gonn got a dessert. Maybe she's gonna get
a little something else from side of fries. Would you
believe she ordered another entree to go on your dime?
Oh yeah, Oh, you gotta shut that down. What's the
word for that, The Yiddish word schnorer. I've never heard
that Snora. Okay, Nicky knows. Yeah, that's somebody who turns

(22:39):
up right when dinner is serving being served. It's very convenient.
Oh my goodness, that's so funny. Well, Schnorer's uh. Notwithstanding,
it was it was a good learning lesson for me
as she took her entree to go and I never
saw her again.

Speaker 3 (22:58):
Well, that in and of itself would get and that
wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (23:02):
You know, it's funny because I think back now as
an adult. You know, there was a time in my
life where that kind of toxicity was exciting for me.
See you remember what the entree was? I think it. No,
it was at Red Oh so it would have been
something in that headspace. That restaurant doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 3 (23:17):
I don't know that place. Perhaps a nice pill, a mignon, something,
something easy on the wallet.

Speaker 2 (23:22):
No, it was it was expensive, no matter what, because
again I was like twenty two years old. Everything was
too expensive. I guess Redo still does exist. It was
probably some don't I don't know. I don't remember, but
it was a real it was a real eye opening experience.
The other worst date that I ever had was I
took a girl back after dinner I picked up at

(23:43):
her apartment and then she had me drop her off
somewhere else, which I found out later was a different
guy's house, also somewhat rude. Yeah, you know that's how
it is out there.

Speaker 3 (23:53):
Did she just shout out next?

Speaker 4 (23:56):
Next?

Speaker 2 (23:57):
I just like took her somewhere and was like, oh,
this is kind of weird. Walks up the stairs, open
the door. There's a dude no shirt on. He gives
her a big hug. I was like, okay, so he
was half ready for.

Speaker 3 (24:11):
That's exactly right. So you know this is a it's
fun here. I'm glad you mentioned Bloodstoughs. I picked up
from them a few times, and their barbecue is really good.

Speaker 2 (24:18):
It's really good. Did you ever get down to San
Pedro Fish Market? I did not.

Speaker 3 (24:22):
No, No, I've become a strange shut in, much to
the chagrin of Tim Conway Junior.

Speaker 2 (24:27):
What why is? Why does that? Why is Tim?

Speaker 3 (24:29):
Have a thought about that? Because I'm not going to
the morongo things. Oh you know, I've become a strange,
paranoid hermit bud and this is harshened on everybody's mellow.
But no, I need to go to that fish market
because that looked really good.

Speaker 2 (24:41):
Yeah, it's good. It's a good spot. And they have
just opened their new location there on the waterfront, or
reopened a waterfront location, and Mike told me they had
like five thousand people on the first day. That is crazy.

Speaker 3 (24:55):
We keep looking for places with outdoor seating just to
be COVID safe, and it's not not always the easiest thing.

Speaker 2 (25:02):
And now that the.

Speaker 3 (25:03):
Weather is getting a little colder, maybe not the most
comfortable thing either.

Speaker 2 (25:07):
Yeah, I heard that, heard that for sure. Well, I'll
tell you what. I will come up with a list
of good outdoor outdoor eateries with with heaters and I'll
send it on over to you.

Speaker 3 (25:20):
Meanwhile, sale Park is at Costco ooh hey, I mean,
you wouldn't wear one of those on a first date.
But you know, if you're into the groove, nobody cares
no and.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
The groove, as they say, is in the heart.

Speaker 1 (25:36):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

Speaker 2 (25:40):
I told you about this earlier. Did you know that
there are now, according to some reports, sixty seven million
people currently working as full or part time creators like influencers.
They never expected to go up to more than one
hundred and five million by twenty thirty. Collee, according to
Goldman Sachs, who's never done anything wrong.

Speaker 3 (26:05):
Take everything they say of face value everything.

Speaker 2 (26:08):
Hollywood Reporter says that this is the year that the
power dynamic in Hollywood has finally flipped, because for years,
Hollywood has generally looked at influencers as lesser than However,
content creators are making big money. Content deals are expected
to surpass ten billion dollars this year, and all of
it is putting Hollywood on notice as the traditional entertainment

(26:31):
industry is showing eagerness to embrace the creator economy. Not
only is traditional talent embracing digital platforms, but writers, actors,
and producers who previously worked in old school entertainment are
now working on social first content creators are hiring scriptwriters,
production managers, and out of work actors as Hollywood pivots.

(26:54):
You've heard about vertical dramas. I'm sure Netflix's CEO Ted's
Randa says that the streaming platform is actively hunting for
Internet talent. They have a show with uh Miss Rachel
as well, and it's not all a bunch of young
kids or gen zers doing dances on TikTok The fastest

(27:15):
growing group in the creative economy are grown ups, adult
professionals who have gotten laid off, who retired of working
for a company and are becoming creators as a way
to grow their own businesses and the later stage. Professional
creators have been a boon for advertisers that are seeking
to reach previously untapped communities online. Here's the problem with this.
It's not entertainment. It's advertising. None of it is the

(27:39):
same as movies or TV. It's it's content for selling
something using the algorithm to do so. It's all ads,
doesn't matter how I mean. That's the big wheel that
makes monetization on the Internet possible. You gotta sell your

(28:00):
diet tea. The rise of AI, of course, though, might
throw a wrench in all this. You saw Sora, two
videos that are basically indistinguishable, easy to make, aislop everywhere,
very hard for the algorithm to, at least at this point,

(28:22):
identify what is created by AI versus what is made
by a human. AI podcasts are everywhere. They're getting served up.
There's one company that's making three thousand AI podcasts a week.
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Speaker 5 (28:46):
I mean, seriously, I find Cinderella just so inspiring as
a character throughout this whole book.

Speaker 2 (28:50):
Yeah, I know, right, and she does it all in
those tiny glass slippers. Unreal. All right, So let's dive
into today's review topic. Atomic theory. I mean, maybe has
more charisma than me. Sometimes it still sounds pretty bad,
but this is six or seven months ago. Eleven Labs,
the company behind those, claims that this is going to
be revolutionary, and like I said, maybe if it sucks,

(29:13):
it doesn't make a difference because the company who makes
podcasts like three thousand a week uploads them to the
regular podcast app that we get all our regular stuff on,
not the iHeart app, but podcasts or Spotify says that
they have a disclosure and it says it's an AI
generated podcast. But many people don't care. The horror I

(29:35):
think for somebody who loves traditional media and respects it
and grew up in it and thought, hey, that seems
like a cool thing to do with your life, is
that the podcasts go out into the world and they
become good enough, not so good, but good enough that
people just don't care. An AI slop, you know, it's

(29:58):
not really manufacturing or it's not really it's like an
ANTECDI for instance. But if a I think told you
a story, it's not a real story this side or
whatever joke that I mean, that's just something that it
cludes together from all the other stuff on the Internet.
I think what we like about people, especially ones that
we want to listen to day in and day out,

(30:19):
are that they have unique experiences and those are real
or edited for FCC compliance. It's a strange world out there,
and I just hope that there's enough foresight from the
people who are in charge, and by in charge, I

(30:42):
mean big media. I guess I don't know. It's all
nebulous out there. I don't ever get access to it
that they understand that people still want people Ronn. We
talked about this last week. Oh yeah, I read about
it all the time as well.

Speaker 3 (30:54):
There was an interesting article chart study going around all
yesterday about the number of AI generated articles online eclipsing
the number of human generated articles. Yeah, and the upshot
of this is that all AI does is steal and
assimilate things. So the more of this you get, the
more it's a copy of a copy of a.

Speaker 2 (31:14):
Copy, potentially the dumber it is, yeah, exactly, but it's
just harder and harder to cut through. I mean, the
dead Internet theory is so crazy that like, not only
are the bots reading and commenting on everything, but they
might be reading and commenting on stuff that other bots
have made.

Speaker 3 (31:27):
Right, and so it'll continue to degenerate as it just
goes through cycle after cycle of that.

Speaker 2 (31:33):
Also, nobody wants this. Nobody wants this.

Speaker 3 (31:36):
All art, including radio, including podcasts, is about connecting with
and becoming more of a human being.

Speaker 2 (31:42):
There you go, well said, and we will be here
tomorrow as well to do all of those things all
over again. A big thanks to and in memory of
Ace Freely, James Reddick, John Tesh and the tesh Heads.
Then and now the voice of cost Is Staples Center,
seventy eight dollars coffee, Mark Ronner's book Friends in New England,

(32:04):
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(32:24):
anchor Mark Ronner, I mean Andy Reestmeyer. Will see you tomorrow,
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