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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Speaker 2 (00:04):
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little practice for what we have coming up this weekend.
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One of the stories that is hot right now is
that it looks like we're going to have an alternative
to Bad Bunny at the super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (00:33):
Now.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You may have heard Mark Ronner talking about the story
in the past that Bad Bunny is the halftime entertainment
at the Super Bowl. And Mark made very clear, you know,
Bad Bunny is not an American. Bad Bunny is you know, he's.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Not from here. Yeah, he's not. He's not from America.
He's from Puerto Rico.
Speaker 2 (00:51):
And so, you know, I don't know why they don't
have an American there, like Coldplay, the Rolling Stones or Hera, Right,
why don't they have a.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Good American bands there or you too?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
They didn't. Instead they opted for Bad Bunny. That's sarcasm.
Of course, Puerto Rico is an American territory. He is American.
Tommy Lauren, the the I don't know what you want
to call her, news host on one of those far
right places like okay, that perfect, perfect she was she
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was like, oh, he's not even American, and her guest
had to correct her and do exactly what Nikki just
did and say, it's Puerto Rico, that's an American territory.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah. Uh.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
Still people are upset. So a bunch of people in
the Maga Wings are very upset that Bad Bunny is
the super Bowl halftime entertainment. Then Bad Bunny went on
Saturday Night Live last week and he said something in
Spanish and said, if you don't know, if you don't
know what that means, you have four months to learn whatever. Right,
(01:58):
So he's kind of he's kind of he's kind of
trolling a little bit, and then people are like, how
dare he? He shouldn't have done that. It's like he's like,
you elected the troller in chief and now you're getting upset.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
Don't just don't okay, just spare me.
Speaker 2 (02:13):
But the issue with bad Bunny is, well, first of all,
his songs are in Spanish, which.
Speaker 3 (02:19):
Is just really pissed people off.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
But he said he's not gonna do us tour dates
because he he doesn't like that Ice is threatening to
show up but his concerts. So what does this administration do?
They say, all right, we're gonna send Ice to the
Super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (02:35):
Cool? Who's buying their tickets?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Are we don't have to buy We're not spending taxpayer
dollars to get Ice agents inside the super Bowl?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Are we?
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Those tickets are expensive. We're not doing that, are we?
Because somehow I don't think that there are a number
of undocumented people who suddenly have an extra eight thousand
dollars a seat to go watch Bad Bunny at a
halftime show. I just don't think that's gonna happen. But
it doesn't matter. It's all about optics. So now there's
an alternative. For those of you that say, Bad Bunny's
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not an American, Bad Bunny doesn't deserve to be at
the halftime show. Bad Bunny, the number one downloaded artist
in the world, bigger than Taylor Swift, doesn't deserve to
be at your halftime show. For those of you that
say I gonna I'm gonna boycott the NFL again, just
like I did the last time. I'm definitely boycotting more.
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This is gonna be the most boycottist ever I've been.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Maybe you don't have to.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
There will be an alternative, Turning Point USA, that's the
group that was founded by the late conservative activist Charlie
Kirk announcing they are going to host counter programming to
the Super Bowl halftime show, and they they haven't. They
haven't said who it's gonna be yet, so they're not gonna.
They and other conservative critics said that the Bad Bunny
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should not headline because of his criticist of the president
and the president's agenda, and that he sings in Spanish.
They also don't like his gender fluid fashion, so that's
the delial. The counterprogramming essay, according to The Washington Post,
a fresh reminder of the increasing politicization, which is a
word I can never say correctly when I have a
microphone in front of my mouth. Turning Point USA writing
(04:20):
the show will celebrate faith, family, and freedom. They did
not name any performers who will participate or nor did
they detail where the show would be held or how
it would be broadcast. They won't have any problems finding
a venue, they want, any problems finding somebody to perform
for them, they won't. In fact, Lee Greenwood is already
volunteered to replace Bad Bunny, So Mike Johnson, the Speaker
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of the House, said that that Bad Bunny needs to
be he shouldn't be there, he shouldn't be the halftime show.
Lee Greenwood should do it.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
What is the fixation with Lee Greenwood?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
The dude had one jingleistic song in the eighties name
Let's play a game.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
Will someone please name another Lee Greenwood song? Go, it's
a short game. Thank you.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
I've never heard of Lee Greenwood.
Speaker 3 (05:09):
Uh, oh no, don't do it. Don't do it.
Speaker 2 (05:12):
It is the most overplayed song ever and I people
are always like, if you don't like that song, you're
not an American. Bull Lonely, I'm allowed to be an
American and say that song is too jinguistic.
Speaker 3 (05:25):
And it's just not a great song anyway.
Speaker 2 (05:29):
Lee Greenwood is eighty two, and according to TMZ, he's
such a hot ticket. He's set to rock halftime for
the Cowboys on Monday Night Football coming up on November three.
Speaker 3 (05:39):
I wonder what he'll sing, hmm.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
With bad Money already locked in for the halftime spotlight,
lisays maybe the NFL can still tap him to fire
up the crowd pregame. Well, there is a chance that
he gets asked to perform for the Turning Point USA
super Bowl.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
It could happen. That would be not great.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
I just can't, man, I just can't. One very hot
song a couple of years back was Kendrick Lamar and
his distrack.
Speaker 5 (06:18):
They not like Us, They not like us, They not
like us.
Speaker 1 (06:22):
Very catchy, not like us.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
They not like us.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
They not like that. It doesn't take long to learn.
So Drake was very upset about this. It was a
dis track about Drake. Drake got mad and Drake sued
Universal Music and he was like you this this defamation.
He put out a song that said bad things about me,
and I don't like it. So Universal Music Group alleged
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the song excuse me. He claimed the song falsely implied,
oh hang on, back up, Yes, he implied that the
label enabled or covered up misconduct and damaged his reputation.
The court said that the lyrics are protected artistic expression
and opinion. They are not provable factual statements, and so uh,
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they not like us, They not like us. They're not
like us.
Speaker 5 (07:18):
They're not like us. They're not like us.
Speaker 3 (07:20):
Somebody does bang, They're not.
Speaker 4 (07:22):
Like such a good like us. Did you see his
super Bowl performance?
Speaker 3 (07:30):
Kendrick Lamars? Good? Why didn't they have an American do
it that year?
Speaker 6 (07:34):
Understand Kendrick Lamars he's American? Well, I mean, you know,
isn't he from like Inglewood or something?
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Have you seen his birth certificate?
Speaker 4 (07:43):
He was born in Chicago or something?
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Was okay, Well that's they say that about Obama too,
that he was born in Hawaii.
Speaker 3 (07:50):
But I haven't seen the birth certificate. I haven't seen.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
It was a certificate of live birth, but I didn't
see a birth certificate.
Speaker 3 (07:58):
Still questions to.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
He answered, And we haven't seen Kendrick Lamar's per certificate either,
so I don't know about that.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Also, fun fact, Drake is not American, He's Canadian.
Speaker 2 (08:09):
Yeah, yeah, good job the Canadians that was That was
one of those British territories that was not formed to
keep criminals.
Speaker 6 (08:18):
The only good Canadian is Pamela Anderson. Pamela, Pamela, Pamela.
Speaker 2 (08:24):
Pamela, Pamela. There are lots of just left out. William Shatner,
and I find that's so unaccepted.
Speaker 3 (08:31):
Ryan Reynolds.
Speaker 4 (08:33):
Ryan Reynolds is not a good Canadian. But Michael J.
Fox is a great.
Speaker 3 (08:41):
There's lots of Mike Myers.
Speaker 6 (08:44):
Dan Ackroyd, Seth Rogen always he Canadian, he is.
Speaker 3 (08:49):
I didn't know that.
Speaker 2 (08:49):
That's fantastic. See look, you just named a whole bunch
of them. It's the matter with you though. The cast
of Letter Kenny so really good stuff. Jimmy Kimmel is
making headlines again, and some clickbait sources are really leaning
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into the headlines.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
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Speaker 2 (09:15):
Chris Marrel KFI AM sixty. It's more stimulating talk. Listen
anytime on demand on the I Heart radio app. Kimmel's
still making some headlines. It is interesting to see the
way that people craft some of these headlines from the
This is Money website dot co dot uk. So you
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know it's legit.
Speaker 3 (09:38):
It's it's written out in is this a Daily Mail publication?
Speaker 4 (09:44):
They took it from the Daily Mail?
Speaker 2 (09:46):
This is Money is part of the Daily Mail, it says, okay,
so I had to go down to the bottom of
the website. So the Daily Mail, if you're if you're
unfamiliar is basically UK tabloid. Sojimmy Kimmel said that he
would love to have the President on his show amid
his tumbling ratings headline made to click bait, Jimmy Kimmel
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makes transparently desperate plead to Trump to save his tanking
show after audiences vanish.
Speaker 3 (10:17):
All right, you want to hear what we said, here
we go.
Speaker 7 (10:21):
And I don't think any of those guys should be
required to speak the way I do, or the way
Stephen Colbert does or John Stewart does. And I think
that applies to people on television too, that they don't.
You don't have to do this, I choose to do it.
Speaker 2 (10:36):
Since you came back, have you asked Trump ri Car
to come on?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
No, I haven't.
Speaker 7 (10:44):
I wouldn't necessarily be interested in Brendan Carr on the show.
But yeah, I'd love to have Trump on the show
for sure. Yeah. I mean, I feel like he knows
that he wants I don't know, all right, I'll ask him.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
Okay, why doesn't he want to have Brendan Carr, the
chair of the FCC, on his show? Now, if you're
not in the business it's it may seem like, oh,
he's not interested, he doesn't want the conflict this kind
of thing. No, he doesn't want Brendan Carr in a
show because the audience doesn't care about the chair of
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the FCC. If you were to survey this country and
say what is the name of the chair of the
Federal Communications Commission, I'm gonna say, well, easily less than
ten percent would know, but probably probably under five percent
would know the name Brendan Carr. Under five percent would
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know Brendan Carr. So why would Jimmy Kimmel want Brendan
Carr in a show? Would Jimmy Kimmel want Donald Trump?
Of course he would. It'd be amazing for ratings. He knows. See,
when people write there, their clickbait stories about Jimmy Kimmel
being done.
Speaker 3 (12:01):
There, they're doing it because they know that they're.
Speaker 2 (12:03):
Writing to an audience that isn't aware of how the
inner workings are.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
So the uh, the the whole.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Oh, he's desperate to save his tanking show because it's
the audience has vanished. And then they go on to
say the TV host was reinstated but has recorded sliding
ratings ever since his viewership, with viewership excuse me, down
more than seventy percent in his first week since his return. Yeah,
of course it is because he had six and a
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half million people watch his show live when he came back.
What did you think that there was gonna be maintained?
Of course not, and anybody with half of a brain
cell would know. Yeah, six and a half millions the
most he's gonna have watching live. It's not like that
number is going up. People stayed up late to watch
his return till late night, and now that he's back,
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they go, okay, I saw it. I'm going back to
bed now. What's it for, though, is how many people
are watching online. The story doesn't do that because it's
it's it's a tabloid journalism. But while six and a
half million people watched his show live, twenty four million
people streamed the monologue. Twenty four million streamed it on YouTube,
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almost four times as many people watched his monologue after
the fact than watched it live. So look, I don't
know if Kimball is sticking around. I know that his
writing's back. Under two million a night is not great.
Historically speaking, the night talk shows have done many many
more people but all of the talk shows are down,
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and it's not because the hosts. It's because there are
so many different options now that we're never there before.
And everybody that says Johnny Carson used to have fifteen
million people every night, well of course he did.
Speaker 3 (13:54):
He was one of three options. It was it.
Speaker 2 (13:58):
Kimmel is one of three network options. And then you've
got cable options, and then you've got YouTube, and then
you've got every other streaming services out there that has
all kinds of stand up comedy, or they've got sitcoms,
or for Pete's sake, Mark's gonna go home and take
off his pants and get a tub of peanut butter
and probably a side of Crisco and sit Chris Cross
(14:19):
Apple sauce in front of his tube all night, just
spooning into one tub and then into the other. He
loves the way it mixes together. There are so many
different options now.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Well it is Thursday. I always liked that you play along?
You like that? Yeah, I do, I do.
Speaker 2 (14:38):
That's what I have always liked about you is always
play along. What I always appreciated about you. Well, I know, Nicky,
I do. Nope, Nope, nope, We're good. Nicky's got a
peanut butter and Cris go too. But if for something
completely different, I'm not touching that one. You well, Mark, Well,
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so much for subtlety. You invited her o kyed Oak.
Speaker 3 (15:05):
All right, let's shift.
Speaker 2 (15:05):
I hate to do this story, I really do because
I like Paul Pierce. Here's a Kansas guy. You know
that's a Jayhawk right there. Paul Pierce, NBA champion, now
may have another photo for his next playing card.
Speaker 3 (15:23):
Some breaking news.
Speaker 5 (15:24):
Former NBA star Paul Pierce arrested for DUI overnight on
the one to one in the Valley. The CHP says
officers found him asleep behind the wheel around eleven thirty
last night. Lanes were closed for a separate crash near Lancashem,
and officers found a Pierce's rang drover stopped. They say
that he showed signs of alcohol impairmid and was arrested.
Pierce retired from the NBA in twenty seventeen and played
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first several teams, but was most known for his time
with the Celtics.
Speaker 3 (15:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (15:50):
Well, uh, look, I'm always glad when they get a
drunk driver off road.
Speaker 3 (15:53):
I'm always glad about that.
Speaker 2 (15:55):
I am if you're trying to get away with it, though,
what that's bad luck, good reason not to get a
away with it, because how many times you've been on
the road sober of course, you've been on the road
and you come up on an accident and you end
up getting stopped and you're stuck there for a while.
Right now, imagine if you're drunk and you come up
on that accident on the road. Right So now all
of a sudden, uh oh, I'm a sit and duck.
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Then that's exactly what happened. So I hope he gets
his hope he gets his button gear. I don't know
what the what the BAC was, I don't know any
of that stuff. But I don't like it when I
don't like when anybody's drinking a drive, and it just
it's one of the easiest mistakes you don't have to make. Also,
if you've got the kind of money that a pro
athlete has, always the question, isn't it like, why would
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you do that? Hey ding dong, you've got could you
not afford the uber?
Speaker 3 (16:46):
Why would you not do that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (16:48):
It just never made sense to me, never does, and
yet it constantly happens. I think Mark. Don't you think
it has to do with an overestimation of their abilities?
So there's definitely some Dunning Kruger effect going on exactly
what it is, although it's a drunken cougar Krueger.
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Thank you for that. You thought your neighborhood brewery would always.
Speaker 2 (17:08):
Be there, But the taps are starting to run dry.
You're gonna hear why your next pint might be your last.
It's next Chris Merrill.
Speaker 1 (17:17):
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on demand on the iHeartRadio app. It seems that we
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are near the bubble, the beer bubble beer according to
some by the way, they've been predicting this death for
a long time, but according to some, now this is inting.
Speaker 3 (17:58):
Some more mainstream outlets.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
Axios reporting the craft beer bubble has now burst. Oh
it's leading to closings and downsizings.
Speaker 3 (18:09):
So what was it ten years ago? Fifteen?
Speaker 8 (18:12):
Not?
Speaker 3 (18:12):
Yeah, ten fifteen years ago? It was just massive, the
craft beer stuff. And this is when I love this.
Speaker 2 (18:20):
If I can just give you a personal story, this
is when I first moved to San Diego. I went
to moved to California as my first time living here
was twenty twelve, and craft beer was really taking off.
Speaker 3 (18:31):
There are some really.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
Incredible, incredible breweries in San Diego as well. There aren't
you know here too if you know where to go,
but San Diego has got some really good ones. They've
got some great breweries, and San Diego is doing these
massive beer festivals. And I had the luxury of being
a radio guy who would go to the fairgrounds when
they would do this monstrous beer festival, and I would
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I do live remotes, and then of course, as part
of the remote you have to partake.
Speaker 3 (19:00):
I mean you're not allowed not to. So what was
I gonna do? Right?
Speaker 2 (19:06):
So I did, and I just I love that scene.
And there's really a handful of place. Denver obviously is massive.
That's where they host the Great American Beer Festival. And
then my brother lived in Grand Rapids, Michigan. He's since
moved out of there, but my brother lived in Grand Rapids, Michigan,
and now my daughter lives there. And Grand Rapids you
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wouldn't think of it, but because it's not a very
big town, but it is. They're really working hard to
be kind of the craft beer capital of the world,
and I think they still.
Speaker 3 (19:36):
Have a lot of momentum.
Speaker 2 (19:37):
As you may or may not know, if you're unfamiliar,
the Midwest tends to be they kind of lag behind
in trends. You know, trends are started here or New York,
and then it kind of kind of in fills and
the rest of the country into Middle America. So it's
still very very popular there. However, the craft beer boom
that we saw, and of course we led the way
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ten fifteen years ago, they say it is set to burst.
A nearly thirty billion dollar industry, they say faces a
crisis as competition is waning and interest leads to.
Speaker 3 (20:09):
Downsizing, mergers, enclosures.
Speaker 2 (20:13):
Craft beer production dropped four percent last year, the largest
decrease in in industry history outside of the pandemic. They
said that this year doesn't look any better. The Brewers Association,
which is based in Colorado. They say craft volume is
down five percent year over year, with brewery closings outpacing openings.
So if we dropped four percent last year five percent
this year, this is not This is not a good sign.
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Part of this I have to wonder if it has
to do with some of these some of these unique
beers being bought up by the larger companies.
Speaker 3 (20:44):
And I did. I witnessed that in San Diego, Vanheuser
Bush came in and bought chock Top.
Speaker 2 (20:49):
I think, or is that the beer, Nicky, will you
look that up for me? Is shot Top the beer company?
Or is that the beer itself from the company? I
don't recall. Anyway, an has Bush came in and bought
them out, and then of course Anheiser becomes InBev.
Speaker 3 (21:04):
But that was one of the things that became a
bit of an issue.
Speaker 2 (21:07):
They went, Wow, this craft beer is so good, it's
become so popular, and now I got bought out by
this commercial operation. And so part of what was so
attractive about the beer itself is that it wasn't a
massive commercial thing, and so you know, you're purists, went,
now you've sold out.
Speaker 3 (21:21):
So then they didn't like it.
Speaker 2 (21:25):
I guess the Great American Beer Festival started today in Denver?
Speaker 3 (21:29):
Is that? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (21:29):
Started today in Denver, And there's kind of this. They say,
there's a bit of a pull over everything. Ticket sales
are down from the height of the craft beer era.
Festival still though, they say they expect to draw a
thirty to forty thousand people and they've got four hundred
and fifty plus breweries representing nearly every state. That's cool,
but it's not comic Con. I mean, forty thousand people
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is a lot of people, but it's not. This isn't
beer Con. So they said a year ago the festival
started adding more experiences. They've got live music games, They've
got the more beverage options like ciders and cocktails and
uh and hard seltzers and things like that.
Speaker 3 (22:06):
Oh, I did get shot Top is the brand? Oh
they sold again.
Speaker 4 (22:11):
Ann Houser Busch but Ray brands.
Speaker 3 (22:15):
Now where is till Ray?
Speaker 2 (22:18):
Huh?
Speaker 3 (22:21):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (22:21):
Okay, so yeah, Anheuser Busch bought them as a response
to Blue Moon growing in popularity, which is still pretty good,
and then they sold the till Ray till Ray brands.
I don't know anything about that. I don't think I've
ever heard shock Top, Red Hook. They've got a bunch
of Alpine beer, that kind of stuff. Operations in Canada,
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United States, Europe, and Latin America and nowhere else.
Speaker 3 (22:46):
Are you seeing what I'm seeing?
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Their Nikki Canada, US, Europe and Latin America.
Speaker 4 (22:50):
And they also do cannabis.
Speaker 2 (22:53):
And I was trying to bait her mark because they
also operate in Australia. I was trying to get her
to get up over you because we took the over
and how many times she would say Australia during the show.
I was trying to get you to you didn't take
the bait. Good for you, You'll have plenty more chances.
So till Ray also bought four more brands from Mulsen
Cors as well. How about that Breckenridge Brewery. All right,
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Alpine Beer? Oh that Green Flash, that's the San Diego
brand Green Flash? Yeah, wow, okay, cool, I hadn't heard it,
till Ray excellent, excellent, all right, Well, good for them anyway.
It sounds like this craft beer bubble is kind of
bursting right now. So if you're a craft beer fan,
you know, find your favorites and hope that they hang on.
Speaker 3 (23:35):
I hope they do.
Speaker 2 (23:37):
It's one of those neat things. It's a kitchy Americana
thing in my mind, and I love that. I love it,
so I'd like to see a lot of these hang
on for a lot longer. Okay, it happens. It happens
to the best of us. We get up in the morning,
we look in the mirror, we run our fingers through
what's left of our hair. We give ourselves a little
(23:59):
wink maybe, uh maybe finger pistols. Hey, who's that good
looking guy staring back at me? Hey, you think you're cool?
Speaker 3 (24:12):
We all do.
Speaker 2 (24:14):
But do you actually check the six boxes that science
says you need to be cool? Find out if you
deserve finger guns and if you make that cut? That
is next time, Chris Merrill.
Speaker 1 (24:25):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
George Norri from Coast to Coast.
Speaker 2 (24:31):
He comes your way, coming up here in just over
ten minutes, George, what do we have to expect tonight?
Speaker 8 (24:36):
My friend Chris, Who've got a great show tonight. By
the way, you're very kind, Thank you for the compliments.
We're going to talk about biblical prophecy and later on
take a little walk on the paranormal side on coast
to coast.
Speaker 3 (24:49):
Oh, I can't wait.
Speaker 2 (24:50):
And biblical prophecy is maybe one of the most fascinating topics.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Am I am always enthralled when I hear it. I'm
looking forward to that. George, thank you, it is thank you.
Must listen, must listen, r ad io. I'll be doing it.
I hope that you will as well. Fascinating. Okay, so
what do we have left here? Guys? We had something
else we're gonna wrap up.
Speaker 2 (25:13):
Oh oh oh.
Speaker 3 (25:15):
Yeah, how cool are you? That's right.
Speaker 2 (25:18):
You get up in the morning, you you'll look in
the mirror and you think, hey, hey, don't lie. We've
all had our Fonzie moment. Now, maybe you were like
nine and combing your hair back and trying to slick
it back because you thought it looked cool. Maybe you
were a little bit older and you just needed a
little bit of a a little pep talk. We all
do it. Oh hey, come to find out you're not cool?
Speaker 8 (25:41):
No.
Speaker 3 (25:43):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (25:43):
In fact, what we have found, according to scientists, is
that the harder you try to be cool, the less
cool you are. Okay, so cool is context dependent, right?
What plays in one crowd can flop in another. So
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suppose that you are an intellectual and you're you're a mixer,
and you've got fun stories about your latest project and
how you worked under a Nobel Prize winner.
Speaker 3 (26:17):
Oh that's fun, that's neat, what a good story. He's
got a great storytelling.
Speaker 2 (26:21):
Now imagine that you're that same person and you get
arrested and then you get dropped into San Quentin and
you start you go out to the yard and you
start trying to tell that story out there.
Speaker 3 (26:27):
You can get your ass kicked. That's not cool.
Speaker 2 (26:30):
So it is context dependent, but there are a few
traits that are consistent when it comes to being cool.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
So if you want to be cool here, they are
be yourself. Check. This is the hardest thing in the world.
Speaker 2 (26:50):
And this is one of the things I got advice
in my in my career, and they said, we want
you to just be your authentic self. And I realized
at that time I didn't know who that was. And honestly,
I'm still working on every day. I work on it
because I said, wait a minute, They said, yeah, they said,
don't try to be funny all the time. I said,
but I am somebody who's always trying to be funny.
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And what I realized is that I'm often not my
authentic self. Even when I'm in company with people with
whom I am comfortable, I'm often not my authentic self.
Speaker 3 (27:25):
I'm often putting on that facade. Right. So authenticity and
being true to yourself is what makes you look cool.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
Confidence, but not arrogance, is the most important trait if
you are confident and real. By the way, this is
not something you just flip a switch and do overnight.
It comes off as being cool. I was never the
cool kid in school. I was always I was never
like the outcast. But I was never on the at
the cool kids table, right, I was. Look, I'm in radio.
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I did theater. I was not the cool I was
in band, right, I was on the football team. I
was the equipment manager. Okay, that was me in high school, right,
That's who you're talking to.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Now, be student.
Speaker 2 (28:09):
I'm about as mid as anybody could get. And so
I'm working this gig, one time radio gig, and uh,
you know, I'm bombastic. I do the dumb things. And
I had a manager say to me one time. He says, hey,
I need you to get behind me on this initiative.
And I said, yeah, yeah, sure, he says a lot
of people look to you and they they're looking to
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you to kind of tell them what to think and
how to you know, be a leader. And I and
it struck me as on they go, I don't think
anybody looks to me that way. They look at you
as the leader. And then what I realized is that
by being authentically mid, right, by just being mid, people
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kind of respected that.
Speaker 3 (28:55):
They went that guy, he's.
Speaker 2 (28:57):
Mid as hell, but he just it's just who he is,
and that's kind of cool. You remember the kids that
were cool in high school? Hey, you know, they took
their picture and they always they take My oldest son
still he's thirty. Still doesn't drives me crazy. Yeah, when
he takes his picture, turns up one side of his mouth.
Speaker 3 (29:17):
Hey, hey, don't do that.
Speaker 2 (29:20):
That's not a smile. When you came out of the womb,
you weren't coming out looking like the Phonsie. Hey, no,
that wasn't the case.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
And so.
Speaker 2 (29:31):
Being comfortable in your own skin gives you the freedom
to be confident, but it doesn't give you an air
of arrogance. It allows you to be authentic. There are
a few other things that you can learn. However, for instance,
social competence knowing how to read a room, they say
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is key to being cool. I have a good friend
of mine. I have this issue, and I think it
comes from from my father. I tend to gravitate toward
or maybe it's just that I don't press them away.
I tend to gravitate, gravitate toward people who are socially
awkward but have genuine good hearts. And you would really
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call them like the nerdy kids in school or the
dorks in school, right, they were the dorky kids.
Speaker 8 (30:20):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
I am so attracted to someone's purity of heart. Their
social awkwardness doesn't get in the way. And I this
dawned to me, I don't know, a decade ago or something,
as I was doing some evaluation of who I am
and how I got here, you know, therapy kind of crap,
and I realize that's my father.
Speaker 3 (30:39):
My father is.
Speaker 2 (30:40):
Incredibly socially awkward, very uncomfortable in social situations, doesn't really
know what to say. He just he's he doesn't want
to say the wrong thing. Well, my father is an
incredibly generous individual. He's just a good person who wants
to leave a positive stamp on the world. Well, I
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didn't realize that it's gonna end up crying as this
show went on. But here I am sorry. I feel
like I'm giving a eulogy. Uh, he's in bed. God
Dad goes to bed at seven thirty East Coast, so
Dad's been in bed since four thirty our time, So
it's not like he's hearing this. Don't worry about it.
It's not like I have to have that awkward hug
with him later. He is a genuinely good person, but
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he's very socially awkward, and I realized that I tend
to be attracted to socially awkward people who are who
have really good hearts. Now, if you're socially awkward and
you're a jerk, I don't want anything to do with you.
And generally, if you're a really good person and you're
not socially awkward, you've got so many friends you're not
spending time with me. So I guess maybe that's why
I end up with these people. But I love these
these kind of misfits. I'm just a fan of it.
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You can learn social competence, though, you can learn how
to read a room. I've got this friend who is
socially awkward, but he's got a really good heart. The
problem is he tends to think that being annoying is endearing.
He's like, I'm going to try to annoy people, then
they'll think it's fun.
Speaker 3 (32:02):
No, it's not. And I know what he's doing.
Speaker 2 (32:04):
He's putting up as he's putting on a character so
that if people reject him, he can say, well, they
didn't really reject me. They rejected this persona that I've
put out there, rather than trying to be his own
authentic self and being confident in that. The hard part
is you get rejected and physical attractiveness does help, and
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then finally humor rounds out the list. So if you
can hone some of your humor skills, that helps too.
The hardest thing for me right now continues to me,
and I'll probably fight this the rest of my life.
Maybe you're in the same boat, is that I put
myself out there and I try to be real. I
try to be authentic, and hell I cry about how
much I love my dad on the radio. What I
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hate is when people are trolls. It crushes me and
so it scares me and makes me want to be
authentic even less, and it's really hard. So hopefully you're
not running into that. Hopefully you're that good person with
a genuine heart. And when someone is putting themselves out there,
even if it's a little bit awkward, you'll still embrace
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that person.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I hope you do. I hope you do because that
that's cool. Man. You know who else is cool? Tony?
Tony's about as cool as they get. Tony, thanks for
being here tonight. Man. You're just you're just one of
my favorite people. You're just a good dude. Thank you, man.
But no cool. You know you've made it uncomfortable. Yeah, No,
Tony is a good dude.
Speaker 2 (33:31):
Everybody loves Tony. Everybody loves Tony. Everybody loves Mark. Not
so true, A little less true on that truck. Well,
I love Mark. I'll take it. He is a he
is a He is a nut and a half and
I love him for it. And Nikky is You're gonna
get us all fired one day, I swear to god
she is.
Speaker 3 (33:50):
But it is fun for the ride.
Speaker 2 (33:52):
I'll tell you that she's a hell of a lot
of fun to have on the ship before.
Speaker 4 (33:56):
That's what they always say about the ride.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Thanks for working hard and you did a really great job.
People didn't see what you did behind the scenes and
you were fantastic, So thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (34:07):
All right, looking.
Speaker 2 (34:08):
Forward to catch up with you guys again tomorrow. I'm
back again tomorrow night. And then remember every Sunday at
four o'clock, I'm Chris Merril KFI AM six forty live
everywhere in the iHeartRadio
Speaker 1 (34:17):
App, KFI AM six forty on demand