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May 27, 2025 13 mins
KFI & KTLA tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich talks about Google I/O, Jony Ive & OpenAI, a handy gadget alert, and Samsung’s new Galaxy S25 Edge.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It is time for as we do every Tuesday at
this time, we do the Tech segment with Rich Demurow
Rich seen on KTLA every day, Rich on Tech every
Saturday here on KFI at eleven am to two pm,
Instagram at rich on Tech website, rich on Tech dot TV.

Speaker 2 (00:19):
Good morning, Rich, Good morning to you.

Speaker 1 (00:22):
Bill. Okay, last week we talked about the event that
you went to, the Google event.

Speaker 2 (00:29):
If I'm not.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Mistaken, yes, and so happened. Okay, So what came out
of that? Because I know you anticipate and then what
actually happens and then you report on what came out
and you go, ooh, let me tell you, Let me
tell you, folks, this happens.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
So do we have any great news there?

Speaker 4 (00:47):
Well, I think for the takeaways obviously that Google was
forced into AI by chatubt, even though they had been.

Speaker 2 (00:55):
Working on it for a long time.

Speaker 4 (00:57):
They forced their hand into kind of releasing all these
new products and services and whatever that to take advantage
of AI. And now Google is saying, look, okay, the
last couple of years we've been dipping our toes. Now
we are really showing off the fact that we know
what we're doing with AI. We already have all the
base knowledge of the Internet because we've been doing that
really well for twenty five years, and now we're going

(01:20):
to supercharge everything that we've done and make it AI
to the limit, and so things to go.

Speaker 3 (01:26):
Ahead, Yeah, please go ahead.

Speaker 4 (01:28):
No, no, yeah, I'm I mean, look, Gemini is their
version of AI. They're putting that into every single product.
And then I think for consumers the main thing to
know is twofold number one. This new AI mode is
in Google. We've talked about it before on the show
because a couple of months ago I said how cool
it was.

Speaker 2 (01:46):
It was an experiment.

Speaker 4 (01:48):
I guess it's been so good that now they're like
almost replacing their search with it. So when you're searching,
if you see that little tab or button that says
AI mode, tap it. It is incredible. You can ask
really complex questions that nobody's ever asked the Internet before
and still get answers. So it goes way beyond keywords.
And then on the iPhone there's a really cool feature

(02:08):
now called Gemini Live. You can share the video from
your phone's camera, so you can basically have AI take
a look at something. And so, for instance, I was
trying to figure out my sprinkler system. I just pointed
my camera at the sprinkler system in my yard and
like ask questions about it. Hey, what does this button do?
How do I adjust this? What do I need to
know here? And it's like having the smartest person answer

(02:30):
your questions.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Who knows your sprinkler system?

Speaker 4 (02:35):
Yeah, and everything else in the world. I mean I
read into the radio show and he said, Rich, nobody
could tell me what these two little connectors were for
on my new car. I pointed AI at it and asked,
and instantly it explained what those were. Four he said,
this is this is amazing.

Speaker 3 (02:51):
So you have.

Speaker 1 (02:52):
Different companies doing different versions of AI, and give me
an idea.

Speaker 3 (02:58):
You chat GPT is one of the first people out.

Speaker 1 (03:02):
I mean, they basically invented or created the concept. What
do these other companies do that it doesn't do? And
can they be proprietary about what they've developed?

Speaker 4 (03:15):
Well, it's interesting because someone like, Okay, so there's a
I mean, obviously there's a bunch of companies all doing this.

Speaker 2 (03:21):
You've got the main ones like.

Speaker 4 (03:24):
Chat GBT, Open AI. You've got Microsoft, which is using
chat GBT technology underlying. You've got Google, which has Gemini,
You've got Grock, which is part of you know, Elon
Musk's Empire of Things, and that's doing it as well.

Speaker 2 (03:39):
You've got deep Seek out of.

Speaker 4 (03:40):
China, You've got Mistral out of France, and then you've
got Meta, you know which owns Facebook. They're doing it
as well, and they've built it into all of their products.
So the proprietary nature is interesting because some companies are
taking more of an open source aspect to this. A
lot of these companies are sort of secretive about the

(04:01):
you know what powers the AI, but someone like Meta
is opening up their AI whereas anyone can use it
to program what they want to do. So they're all
taking a slightly different approach. But at the end of
the day, Bill, I think the big trend is, you know,
companies want to use this to power things and to
power systems that they're building, and so of course they
can do that and pay these companies on the back end.

(04:23):
But I think for consumers, the real sticky factor at
this point is that these AI bots are getting to
know the people that are using them. And so, for instance,
I was reading an article and basically the thesis is
that the more these AI bots get to know the customer,
the more customized they become, and the less you're going
to want to switch to a different AI chatbop.

Speaker 2 (04:45):
And that makes a lot of sense.

Speaker 3 (04:48):
What I've been hearing.

Speaker 1 (04:49):
And my daughter is the one I go to on
this one because she's my tech nerd and is getting
her master's degree in cybersecurity or whatever the hell she's studying.
And that is AI is wiping out entire sectors of industry.
I mean just across the board, any research done, any
analysis going to be done. In the legal field, for example,

(05:13):
a first year associate comes in and they are put
on research done. There is no time. And I was
reading some articles saying that there really are no entry
level jobs anymore because they're all going to be done,
which means as the medium level management and the upper
level management retire, there'll be no one there that has

(05:36):
the experience that can run companies.

Speaker 4 (05:39):
Yeah, there was we talked about on KTLA today is
this article and op ed in the New York Times
which you may have seen by one of the executives
at linked In saying, look, AI is definitely disrupting the
entry level job sector. Like you said, paralegals anyone that's
getting their first job. And obviously we've got a lot

(06:00):
of college grads getting into the job market right now,
and they're not all too excited about it because the
jobs that they used to use to either learn the
ropes or you know, just get their foot in the
door are no longer available or they've changed because you
just don't need someone to do those. Like you said,
AI is really good at simple tasks like analyzing large

(06:23):
amounts of data and very simple things that used to
take a person time and energy to do, and AI
can now do it in seconds. So I guess the
thesis of the LinkedIn article was basically that jobs still
have to hire these people, but help them work with AI,
because otherwise, if we don't get these young people sort
of into the folds, there's going to be a deficit

(06:47):
in the future of people that can have these higher
level jobs that understand the whole company.

Speaker 3 (06:52):
It's crazy.

Speaker 1 (06:52):
My daughter with her bachelor's degree can't get an entry
level job in the field, which is.

Speaker 3 (06:58):
Why she's doing your master's degree.

Speaker 1 (07:00):
And I'm very proud of the fact that she's going
to have a master's degree and will not be able.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
To get a job.

Speaker 4 (07:09):
You know, I think she's taken the approach of like,
let's see what happens, because right now everything has been
thrown up in the air.

Speaker 2 (07:16):
You know, companies are still trying to figure this out.

Speaker 4 (07:18):
And look, Bill, if you're a company, what are you
trying to do? You're trying to save money. And so
if someone from your department in it is saying, hey, look,
AI can do this and it can replace these people
and it's more efficient and it's this price, of course
you're going to do that.

Speaker 2 (07:32):
Now.

Speaker 4 (07:33):
We don't know what the long term sort of effect
of all of this is, whether companies come back and say, Okay,
this works, this doesn't work, we need people for this still.
So I think it's all still up in the air.
But yes, it is definitely changing for sure.

Speaker 3 (07:45):
Yeah, it's crazy. Oh do I take an opportunity now
to hustle a job for my daughter?

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Uh?

Speaker 3 (07:50):
Neil, I don't think I've ever done that.

Speaker 2 (07:51):
How I.

Speaker 3 (07:54):
Is that even allowed? Is that even allowed?

Speaker 1 (07:57):
If anybody, if anybody needs an entry level person, just
write me and you probably won't hire my daughter either
like everybody else won't. Or any new trainee or intern
who has good computer skills she's going out of her mind.
And you know, based on that LinkedIn article which I read,
or that executive, she is not alone.

Speaker 3 (08:18):
She is not alone. It's really tough.

Speaker 1 (08:21):
Okay, let's talk about the Samsung Galaxy S twenty five Edge.

Speaker 3 (08:25):
I'm assuming that's a new phone.

Speaker 1 (08:29):
And you know, when you talk about the newer, better
sort of the blastow five thousand of the iPhones which
I have, I'm getting the idea that Samsung is moving
ahead of the curve, that they're more advanced and are
working more in terms of newer technology.

Speaker 3 (08:49):
Do I have that right?

Speaker 4 (08:52):
Yeah? I would say that they probably try more things
for sure.

Speaker 1 (08:58):
Okay, good answer. Okay with that, Oh we're gonna have
a good time with this.

Speaker 3 (09:02):
Uh what's your go to? Do you do? Android or
iPhone or both?

Speaker 2 (09:08):
Well?

Speaker 4 (09:08):
I mean, I look, I carry three phones because I've
got to answer questions on the radio show about all
of them. And uh, you know, you've got You've got
iPhone is obviously very popular, You've got Samsung probably the
second most popular, and then Google's Pixel is a very
popular phone as well. So uh, and that's and that
one i'd say is probably gaining the most new fans

(09:33):
because it's really clean, it works really well. The camera,
obviously everyone knows, is really good. But you know, when
it comes to the it's interesting when you ask that
question about Apple versus Samsung. So Samsung definitely tries more
things like This new phone is coming out on Friday.
It's the Galaxy S twenty five Edge. It's super slim.

(09:54):
I've been using it for a couple of weeks now.
It is undeniably fun and different because it's a really
thin and lightweight phone, but it's very high powered, like
it has all the features you need. The two downsides
that I have noticed are the zoom because they can't
have as good of a zoom lens as maybe if
you've got the iPhone Pro or all the other ones

(10:15):
that have a dedicated zoom lens. This does not have that,
so the zoom is a little bit iffy. And also
the battery life. It definitely runs down a little bit
faster than some of the other phones out there. But
at the same time, it's super thin and lightweight, and
so people are going to see that as kind of refreshing,
and we know that Apple is expected to do something
very similar with a thin and light iPhone later this year,

(10:36):
maybe nickname the Air or something like that, the Ultra,
who knows. But my point is with Apple, they have
a much different approach because they control everything from what's
inside the phone to the software, and that leads them
to be able to do very different things when it
comes to power efficiency, when it comes.

Speaker 2 (10:55):
To features, the camera, Siri.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
The way things work on the iPhone is just much
more integrated than the way they work on Android phones
because Android has a mix of all different parts and
all different software and all different manufacturers, and so it's
just a different approach to a very similar problem.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Okay, yeah, we're probably gonna have that conversation. You know, obviously.

Speaker 1 (11:18):
You know I'm an iPhone guy, and I won't even
try anybody any other phone.

Speaker 3 (11:23):
Because I just don't want to learn it. I just
don't have the ability.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
I just learn how to turn my phone on, which
I'm assuming a lot of people have a problem with
the technology.

Speaker 3 (11:31):
All right, Gadget alert real quickly. Only have a couple
of minutes. And I always love gadgets.

Speaker 4 (11:37):
Oh this is great. This is a super simple, fun
new gadget. It's not I guess you can't even call
a gadget, but it is a power cable from a
company called twelve South, and what they have done is
they have made a cable that on one side is
a plug and on the other side is USBC plug.

(11:57):
So basically it's a power chord, that's what they call it.
And it the best part about this thing is that
you're not looking. You know, when you get a power
cable at your house, you need to get the plug
that goes into the wall, and then you have to
get the power cord itself right the USB cable and
you plug those in and it's always too short.

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Number two.

Speaker 4 (12:13):
So if you have kids like I do that always
want their iPad plugged in they're moving around the house
or sitting on the couch or sitting on the bed,
they're sitting on the floor, this thing comes in a
ten foot length, so you can sit there on the
couch and actually have your phone plugged in and use
it without pulling this thing out.

Speaker 2 (12:30):
Of the wall. So it's just a super simple.

Speaker 4 (12:32):
Gadget that you know, it's not new to have a
power cable like this, but it is kind of refreshing
that it works with all your different.

Speaker 2 (12:40):
Devices and it just is simple.

Speaker 4 (12:42):
So forty dollars or fifty dollars if you want that
ten foot length. But I love this thing. I've been
playing with it for a week. Just came out, and
it does make life a lot easier, especially for travel.
You just plug, you know, one thing to bring that's it.

Speaker 3 (12:56):
Can't you buy like a twenty foot cable out there
some place?

Speaker 4 (13:00):
Yes you can, but you know, most of the time
it's just a cable, so it might not have the
plug part of it. And then you wonder. You know
a lot of people are also using plugs that are
not powerful enough for their phone, Like they're not taking
full advantage because they're using an older plug, you know,
like that power adapter that goes into the wall might
be from a previous device that doesn't give you as

(13:21):
much juice. This one has thirty watts, which is plenty
for almost every gadget nowadays. You know, some laptops will
take that as a trickle charge. I know it's getting
a little technical, but you know, it depends on the
wattage of the device. But all the phones and things
like that will charge really fast with a thirty walk.

Speaker 1 (13:39):
All right, Rich will catch you this weekend Saturday morning
tomorrow on KTLA and or Saturday eleven am to two
pm here on KFI and next Tuesday.

Speaker 3 (13:50):
All right, you have a good one.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Oh right, thank you,
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