August 6, 2025 • 11 mins
KTLA & KFI tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show for ‘Tech Tuesday.’ Today, Rich talks about Amazon getting into the used car business, OpenAI updating ChatGPT, Lenovo’s new rollable laptop, and the NEW Tesla diner in Hollywood.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now it is time for rich on Tech, our tech segment.
You can hear Rich Live every Saturday, eleven am to
two pm rich on Tech. He's on KTLA every day
at Channel five, on Instagram, at rich on Tech website,
rich on Tech dot tv, and live in person, Ladies
(00:21):
and gentlemen, Rich Demurrow, Morning Rich.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good morning, Bill.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, nice to have you back. Were you here last week?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Well, I was here last week. I was here last week.
Oh I said last week that it's been a while,
but it was at that point.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
See, I've completely forgotten that you were here last week.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It happens every day, every other minute, it happens.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Okay. A couple things that I find fascinating.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
The Tesla Diner in Hollywood, seriously.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yeah, yeah, Well, you know I got to visit these things,
and you know, look, this thing started planning in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It has finally come to fruition.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
And I actually have a little bit of trivia for
you if you know what this was. Do you know
what this was before it was the Tesla Diner, this area.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Where Hollywood West, Hollywood Porno shops, Men's Day neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It was a Shaky's Pizza.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Oh, I thought you were talking about the entire neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Oh well, no, that you can discuss forever. No, this
was a Shaky's Pizza. It's now a Tesla twenty four
to seven diner and super charger hub.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So it's got this giant, it's kind of.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Retro futuristic looking, twenty four to seven diners, so you
can order in your car, you can charge your car.
You can also go into the diner, so that the
diner is open twenty four to seven, like I said,
but you can only go in from six am until midnight.
The other times you can you know, you can eat
in your car if you want, you can eat up there.
But it's also has eighty superchargers, not just for Tesla's.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
If your Tesla, if your.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
EV can take one of these chargers with either an
adapter or it's got the Tesla charger built in, you
can charge your car there. Otherwise you cannot park there.
That's the thing you need to know. If you have
a Tesla, you can get right in, no big Gilt
or an EV.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
That's definitely thing is clever. I mean that that is clever.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Not only is it clever in terms of a potential
money maker. I'm assuming it's a revenue for the company.
I don't know how much, but what a neat way
to have people come in and kill time as opposed
to sitting in their car watching Netflix for twenty minutes
at a time.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yes, and there's also two giant screens. I mean, have
you seen any of the videos or pictures out of
this place or no?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
No, I have not.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Okay, okay, So there's two.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
This is a little obviously it's Elon Musk, so there's
a little controversy. But there's two giant screens. Like it's
a drive in as well, so you can watch a
video on these screens as you charge up. It's just
kind of a place to hang out. But one of
the screens is actually in front of an apartment building
where there are you know, balconies, and so it blocks
(03:17):
all the views that these people used to have, which
is kind of wild and I don't know how they
got around that if the owner of the building was like, yeah,
do whatever you want. But these screens are like sixty
six feet They're huge, and you can watch the content
on them, or just like an old drive in theater,
you can sync the audio to your car. So you
can tune in the same thing that's on the screen
(03:39):
and listen to it. But you can also order food
right from your car's dashboard, which I thought was kind
of cool. They've got burgers, fries, tuna melts. My food
came in a mini cyber truck box, which apparently people
like I paid seven dollars extra for the metal souvenir cup.
And when you go inside, it's got this old school
(03:59):
like retro feel, but it's also very futuristic, very optimistic
about the future. All the Tesla stuff is on display.
People were gobbling up the Tesla merchandise. There were people
I talked to from all over. Wasn't just La people.
It was people from Phoenix, people from New Orleans, and
it's just it's a site to be seen. So I
think that Tesla, even though you know all the controversy
(04:22):
surrounding Tesla and Elon Musk, I still think that this
is going to be one of the attractions that people
seek out when they visit La because there's nothing else
like it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, I mean, that's clever as hell. And of course
two questions. Number one, how's the food that's for starters?
And is you had mentioned an extra seven bucks for
the souvenir cup.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
How expensive is the food?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, so I can tell you number one the first question.
What was the first question?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Sorry again, you're starting.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
To sound like me. Now, how was the food or
how we what's the food?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Okay, the food is I thought it was excellent.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I got a burger.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
It's a smash burger, and of course the menu is small,
but it's high quality and so the burger was great.
They do have a person that brings it out to
your car, you know, like car hop style, or you
can go in and eat and they call out your number. Whatever,
you've got options there the pricing. So in the time
I was there, I was there for about, you know,
maybe an hour and a half.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The charging of the car was.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Maybe twenty dollars and then the food was another thirty five.
So you're talking about fifty bucks in just an hour
and a half. And I didn't buy any merchandise. So
this is also a money making operation as well. And
the thing is Tesla owners will know that there's something
called an idling fee. So Tesla has come up with
this pretty smart way of getting people to get out
(05:49):
of their chargers when they're done charging, you can't let
your car sit there without incurring a fee, and it
kicks in after about you know, five minutes of your
charge being done. This in this hub, they actually give
you a grace period because they know people are gonna
want to hang out there, So you get about thirty
five minutes of grace.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Period before you're hit with a fee and idlely fee.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Now twenty bucks for a charge. Is that right in
line with Tesla chargers all over the country.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, you know, it all depends. Tesla charging is dynamic,
so there's not one price for everything. So yeah, it
just sort of depends on the place you're charging and
what time it is.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And you said thirty five for the food. Was that
just you?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I got a burger and the and a drink and
the cup. It came out to about thirty five. I
think the burger was like maybe fourteen fifteen bucks. I
should have looked more closely.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, because you know what I was going to hit us.
What you knew what I was going to ask that question.
I mean, that's a gift.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
No tipping, by the way, no tipping says it says
your tip is included in the price of the food.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Which I thought was interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, looking at my second okay, it.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Was seventeen dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
By the way, Yeah, and I yeah, I don't know
how much that is. That's a twenty for a twenty
minute charge, right, and that brings you up to eighty percent.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That actually got me one hundred percent. I was there.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I was there total for an hour and twenty three minutes.
Now that's you know, typically if you're at a Chesla
charger for that long, you're going to be charged extra.
But this, like I said, they are doing that grace
period because they know, they know this is kind of
a lucky place. You know, you go there and you
hang out and you see stuff fair enough.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So Amazon, you know, every time Amazon I turn around,
Amazon is getting into some new business. And as I've
often said, they if they want to buy Pakistan tomorrow afternoon,
they can do it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So now they're in they used car business. Explain how
that works?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And are they going to compete with Carvana and companies
of that ilk.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
They're going to try, I'm not They're doing it a
little bit differently because Carvana. Okay, well let me give
you the nuts and balls first. So now, so last
year Amazon said they are going to partner with Hyundai
to sell new cars. And the whole thing was you
can go to Amazon dot com, slash autos, you can
search through find the Hyundai that you want, the price
(08:13):
is clear, everything was like very easy.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You could do it all online and then you would
go to a dealership to pick up your car.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
So they were partnering with dealerships, not really cutting into
their business, kind of a new lead for business, right
and I guess that's gone pretty well. But now they're
getting into used cars and certified pre owned cars, and
right now they're starting with Hyundai dealerships in La I
guess since they already have that relationship, but they want
to expand it to you know, other cars, other brands
(08:40):
and other cities. And so it's the same kind of thing.
You get the you know, the transparent pricing, no hidden fees,
you can see the vehicle history report, you get a
three day, three hundred mile return policy, one thousand mile warranty,
and again you buy your car through Amazon, but you
go pick it up at the dealer. So it's kind
of like a nice middle ground where they're saying like, look,
(09:00):
we're very friendly dealers, We're not trying to take your business.
We're trying to give you more business. But of course
they take a cut, I'm sure of something. And are
they competing with Carvana and CarMax in a way. I
think they would love to. But the difference is those
companies purchase your car from you and then they sell
it to someone else. Right now. Amazon is not doing that.
(09:24):
I'm not sure they ever want to get involved in
that business because that is a very up and down business.
It's certainly been for Carvana and Carmacks. Of course, we
see they have tons of locations as well, so interesting,
we'll see if this works out. Amazon tries her hand
and a lot of things, Bill, As you know.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
One of the things about CarMax, which I really appreciate
that I've gone through CarMax before and sold a car,
not buying a car, but sold a car because I
got a very good price for it, is Yeah, there's
no negotiating here. It is yeah, And that is kind
of neat. Also, Costco is in car sales, but I
think it's new cars, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, I believe Costco is new cars. And I think
it's one of those things where it's like the price
is fixed as well, like it's not. Is there a
negotiation with Costco? I'm not sure, but I have sold
several cars, I think two or three now to CarMax,
and most recently, during the pandemic, I sold a car
through a company called Shift and I couldn't believe how
(10:26):
much they gave me for my old car, and I
could not cast that check fast enough and I was like,
this is this cannot be sustainable. And sure enough that
company has gone out of business during the pandemic. There
are a whole bunch of these companies trying to compete
with Carvana, you know, and to a lesser extent, CarMax
because they come to you and buy the car right
(10:47):
from you, and you know, CarMax is a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Because you go to them.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
But yeah, you know, look, used cars are always going
to be a good business. It's just the Internet has
changed things because you know, you can search on that
and find used cars pretty much anywhere at this point
and get them to your local area.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
All right, rich We'll see you on k t l
A Today Live rich on Tech every Saturday here on
KFI eleven am to two pm. Instagram at rich on
Tech website, rich on tech dot TV, on the news letter,
(11:26):
rich on tech dot TV. Rich, We'll catch you again
next well, we'll see you this weekend of course on
KFI at eleven o'clock we'll hear you, and then next
week right here, you have a.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Good day, youtubell. Thank you all right, take care,
Now it is time for rich on Tech, our tech segment.
You can hear Rich Live every Saturday, eleven am to
two pm rich on Tech. He's on KTLA every day
at Channel five, on Instagram, at rich on Tech website,
rich on Tech dot tv, and live in person, Ladies
(00:21):
and gentlemen, Rich Demurrow, Morning Rich.
Speaker 2 (00:25):
Good morning, Bill.
Speaker 3 (00:27):
Yeah, nice to have you back. Were you here last week?
Speaker 4 (00:32):
Well, I was here last week. I was here last week.
Oh I said last week that it's been a while,
but it was at that point.
Speaker 3 (00:38):
See, I've completely forgotten that you were here last week.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
It happens every day, every other minute, it happens.
Speaker 3 (00:47):
Okay. A couple things that I find fascinating.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
The Tesla Diner in Hollywood, seriously.
Speaker 4 (00:59):
Yeah, yeah, Well, you know I got to visit these things,
and you know, look, this thing started planning in twenty eighteen.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
It has finally come to fruition.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
And I actually have a little bit of trivia for
you if you know what this was. Do you know
what this was before it was the Tesla Diner, this area.
Speaker 1 (01:17):
Where Hollywood West, Hollywood Porno shops, Men's Day neighborhood.
Speaker 2 (01:27):
It was a Shaky's Pizza.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Oh, I thought you were talking about the entire neighborhood.
Speaker 4 (01:32):
Oh well, no, that you can discuss forever. No, this
was a Shaky's Pizza. It's now a Tesla twenty four
to seven diner and super charger hub.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
So it's got this giant, it's kind of.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Retro futuristic looking, twenty four to seven diners, so you
can order in your car, you can charge your car.
You can also go into the diner, so that the
diner is open twenty four to seven, like I said,
but you can only go in from six am until midnight.
The other times you can you know, you can eat
in your car if you want, you can eat up there.
But it's also has eighty superchargers, not just for Tesla's.
Speaker 2 (02:08):
If your Tesla, if your.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
EV can take one of these chargers with either an
adapter or it's got the Tesla charger built in, you
can charge your car there. Otherwise you cannot park there.
That's the thing you need to know. If you have
a Tesla, you can get right in, no big Gilt
or an EV.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
That's definitely thing is clever. I mean that that is clever.
Speaker 1 (02:28):
Not only is it clever in terms of a potential
money maker. I'm assuming it's a revenue for the company.
I don't know how much, but what a neat way
to have people come in and kill time as opposed
to sitting in their car watching Netflix for twenty minutes
at a time.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
Yes, and there's also two giant screens. I mean, have
you seen any of the videos or pictures out of
this place or no?
Speaker 3 (02:52):
No, I have not.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
Okay, okay, So there's two.
Speaker 4 (02:55):
This is a little obviously it's Elon Musk, so there's
a little controversy. But there's two giant screens. Like it's
a drive in as well, so you can watch a
video on these screens as you charge up. It's just
kind of a place to hang out. But one of
the screens is actually in front of an apartment building
where there are you know, balconies, and so it blocks
(03:17):
all the views that these people used to have, which
is kind of wild and I don't know how they
got around that if the owner of the building was like, yeah,
do whatever you want. But these screens are like sixty
six feet They're huge, and you can watch the content
on them, or just like an old drive in theater,
you can sync the audio to your car. So you
can tune in the same thing that's on the screen
(03:39):
and listen to it. But you can also order food
right from your car's dashboard, which I thought was kind
of cool. They've got burgers, fries, tuna melts. My food
came in a mini cyber truck box, which apparently people
like I paid seven dollars extra for the metal souvenir cup.
And when you go inside, it's got this old school
(03:59):
like retro feel, but it's also very futuristic, very optimistic
about the future. All the Tesla stuff is on display.
People were gobbling up the Tesla merchandise. There were people
I talked to from all over. Wasn't just La people.
It was people from Phoenix, people from New Orleans, and
it's just it's a site to be seen. So I
think that Tesla, even though you know all the controversy
(04:22):
surrounding Tesla and Elon Musk, I still think that this
is going to be one of the attractions that people
seek out when they visit La because there's nothing else
like it.
Speaker 1 (04:33):
Yeah, I mean, that's clever as hell. And of course
two questions. Number one, how's the food that's for starters?
And is you had mentioned an extra seven bucks for
the souvenir cup.
Speaker 3 (04:45):
How expensive is the food?
Speaker 4 (04:48):
Yeah, so I can tell you number one the first question.
What was the first question?
Speaker 2 (04:54):
Sorry again, you're starting.
Speaker 3 (04:56):
To sound like me. Now, how was the food or
how we what's the food?
Speaker 4 (05:00):
Okay, the food is I thought it was excellent.
Speaker 2 (05:04):
I got a burger.
Speaker 4 (05:05):
It's a smash burger, and of course the menu is small,
but it's high quality and so the burger was great.
They do have a person that brings it out to
your car, you know, like car hop style, or you
can go in and eat and they call out your number. Whatever,
you've got options there the pricing. So in the time
I was there, I was there for about, you know,
maybe an hour and a half.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
The charging of the car was.
Speaker 4 (05:27):
Maybe twenty dollars and then the food was another thirty five.
So you're talking about fifty bucks in just an hour
and a half. And I didn't buy any merchandise. So
this is also a money making operation as well. And
the thing is Tesla owners will know that there's something
called an idling fee. So Tesla has come up with
this pretty smart way of getting people to get out
(05:49):
of their chargers when they're done charging, you can't let
your car sit there without incurring a fee, and it
kicks in after about you know, five minutes of your
charge being done. This in this hub, they actually give
you a grace period because they know people are gonna
want to hang out there, So you get about thirty
five minutes of grace.
Speaker 2 (06:07):
Period before you're hit with a fee and idlely fee.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
Now twenty bucks for a charge. Is that right in
line with Tesla chargers all over the country.
Speaker 4 (06:16):
Yeah, you know, it all depends. Tesla charging is dynamic,
so there's not one price for everything. So yeah, it
just sort of depends on the place you're charging and
what time it is.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
And you said thirty five for the food. Was that
just you?
Speaker 2 (06:30):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (06:31):
I got a burger and the and a drink and
the cup. It came out to about thirty five. I
think the burger was like maybe fourteen fifteen bucks. I
should have looked more closely.
Speaker 1 (06:41):
Yeah, because you know what I was going to hit us.
What you knew what I was going to ask that question.
I mean, that's a gift.
Speaker 4 (06:48):
No tipping, by the way, no tipping says it says
your tip is included in the price of the food.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Which I thought was interesting.
Speaker 3 (06:55):
Yeah, looking at my second okay, it.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
Was seventeen dollars.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
By the way, Yeah, and I yeah, I don't know
how much that is. That's a twenty for a twenty
minute charge, right, and that brings you up to eighty percent.
Speaker 2 (07:08):
That actually got me one hundred percent. I was there.
Speaker 4 (07:10):
I was there total for an hour and twenty three minutes.
Now that's you know, typically if you're at a Chesla
charger for that long, you're going to be charged extra.
But this, like I said, they are doing that grace
period because they know, they know this is kind of
a lucky place. You know, you go there and you
hang out and you see stuff fair enough.
Speaker 1 (07:26):
So Amazon, you know, every time Amazon I turn around,
Amazon is getting into some new business. And as I've
often said, they if they want to buy Pakistan tomorrow afternoon,
they can do it.
Speaker 3 (07:40):
So now they're in they used car business. Explain how
that works?
Speaker 1 (07:45):
And are they going to compete with Carvana and companies
of that ilk.
Speaker 4 (07:52):
They're going to try, I'm not They're doing it a
little bit differently because Carvana. Okay, well let me give
you the nuts and balls first. So now, so last
year Amazon said they are going to partner with Hyundai
to sell new cars. And the whole thing was you
can go to Amazon dot com, slash autos, you can
search through find the Hyundai that you want, the price
(08:13):
is clear, everything was like very easy.
Speaker 2 (08:15):
You could do it all online and then you would
go to a dealership to pick up your car.
Speaker 4 (08:18):
So they were partnering with dealerships, not really cutting into
their business, kind of a new lead for business, right
and I guess that's gone pretty well. But now they're
getting into used cars and certified pre owned cars, and
right now they're starting with Hyundai dealerships in La I
guess since they already have that relationship, but they want
to expand it to you know, other cars, other brands
(08:40):
and other cities. And so it's the same kind of thing.
You get the you know, the transparent pricing, no hidden fees,
you can see the vehicle history report, you get a
three day, three hundred mile return policy, one thousand mile warranty,
and again you buy your car through Amazon, but you
go pick it up at the dealer. So it's kind
of like a nice middle ground where they're saying like, look,
(09:00):
we're very friendly dealers, We're not trying to take your business.
We're trying to give you more business. But of course
they take a cut, I'm sure of something. And are
they competing with Carvana and CarMax in a way. I
think they would love to. But the difference is those
companies purchase your car from you and then they sell
it to someone else. Right now. Amazon is not doing that.
(09:24):
I'm not sure they ever want to get involved in
that business because that is a very up and down business.
It's certainly been for Carvana and Carmacks. Of course, we
see they have tons of locations as well, so interesting,
we'll see if this works out. Amazon tries her hand
and a lot of things, Bill, As you know.
Speaker 1 (09:42):
One of the things about CarMax, which I really appreciate
that I've gone through CarMax before and sold a car,
not buying a car, but sold a car because I
got a very good price for it, is Yeah, there's
no negotiating here. It is yeah, And that is kind
of neat. Also, Costco is in car sales, but I
think it's new cars, if I'm not mistaken.
Speaker 4 (10:04):
Yeah, I believe Costco is new cars. And I think
it's one of those things where it's like the price
is fixed as well, like it's not. Is there a
negotiation with Costco? I'm not sure, but I have sold
several cars, I think two or three now to CarMax,
and most recently, during the pandemic, I sold a car
through a company called Shift and I couldn't believe how
(10:26):
much they gave me for my old car, and I
could not cast that check fast enough and I was like,
this is this cannot be sustainable. And sure enough that
company has gone out of business during the pandemic. There
are a whole bunch of these companies trying to compete
with Carvana, you know, and to a lesser extent, CarMax
because they come to you and buy the car right
(10:47):
from you, and you know, CarMax is a little bit different.
Speaker 2 (10:51):
Because you go to them.
Speaker 4 (10:52):
But yeah, you know, look, used cars are always going
to be a good business. It's just the Internet has
changed things because you know, you can search on that
and find used cars pretty much anywhere at this point
and get them to your local area.
Speaker 1 (11:05):
All right, rich We'll see you on k t l
A Today Live rich on Tech every Saturday here on
KFI eleven am to two pm. Instagram at rich on
Tech website, rich on tech dot TV, on the news letter,
(11:26):
rich on tech dot TV. Rich, We'll catch you again
next well, we'll see you this weekend of course on
KFI at eleven o'clock we'll hear you, and then next
week right here, you have a.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
Good day, youtubell. Thank you all right, take care,
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