September 23, 2025 • 13 mins
Neil Saavedra fills in for Bill while he is out on vacation. KTLA & KFI tech reporter Rich DeMuro joins the show to discuss Verizon’s budget brand Visible, popular power bank maker Anker is recalling another 500,000 units because they can catch fire, and Facebook’s AI dating assistant
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
A sign for some Rich DeMuro. You can see him
on Channel five. You see him early in the morning. Man,
you have a worse schedule than I do right now,
And of course here I'm here on KFI.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
How you doing, Rich?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
But I love what I do and so that's why
I do it.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I don't work a day in my life. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It's I can honestly say that, Neil. I mean, so
can you.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I mean, this is like, yeah, there are far worse
things we could be doing.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You know. I was listening to you as I want
to do on KFI here and you were talking about
the anchor recall, and I think this pains you the
same way it pains me, because, like you, I've always
thought of it as a great brand, a trustworthy brand.
And this is what the third recall in the past
(00:51):
what two years?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah, it's it's it's at least I mean I remember
because I've done them on the radio show and I'm like,
wait a second. The first one is surprise me. Then
the second one surprised me, and now the third. Now
here's the thing. I will give a couple of things here.
Number one, anchor is very popular, and not just myself many,
many tech people. It is become kind of the recommendation
(01:16):
for power banks because they put out a good product
at a very affordable price tag, and so why not
when you have those two combinations of things, recommend them.
And most of the tech people I know use Anchor products,
including myself. I have one in my bag right now
that I use and love. But yeah, another recall for
their power banks five hundred thousand units now. Also to
(01:38):
put that into perspective, it's a lot, but I have
a feeling that Anchor sells millions upon millions upon millions
of these, So yeah, it's percentages. But the reality is,
you don't want something that you have to be recalled,
and you don't want to be using something that could
potentially overheat or cause a fire whatever. So there are one, two, three, four,
(01:59):
five models. I mean, I could give you the model numbers,
but reality is you probably want to go to the
website and check them out. Rich on tech dot tv
hit notes up at the top. I put all the
model numbers there. But these were sold at best Buy, Target, Amazon, Walmart,
TikTok between August twenty twenty three and June twenty twenty five,
(02:20):
and Neil you can get a refund or a gift card.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But this is I've actually had to do this before.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I don't know if you've ever had to do this,
but I've gotten some of these product recalls on Amazon.
You have to write on the device like Recalled in
permanent marker and then submit a photo to get the refunds.
So I had to do this with another product on
Amazon to get a refund. That's what they want you
to do.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, and then what do you send it back to them?
Or do you send it to an electric waste you
know out, Yeah, good question. You cannot just put these
in the trash.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Do not do that. Don't put them in your regular recycling.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
You have to basically on Anchor's website, they have instructions
for how to find a hazardous waste center. Which is
probably the biggest pain of this whole process is getting
rid of this thing once you are done with it,
once you market as you know Recalled, because you don't
want to market, get the refund, and then still use
it because you just put.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yourself at risk. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's strangely.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I've told you before that I do electronics and make
all kinds of stuff at home. And I was going
through my electronics and came across a mercury switch, which
they don't make anymore, that has actual mercury in it.
And that was my first thought is, Oh, this is
going to be a pain, and they asked to get
rid of.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, and what you do that's why.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Well, you can find places that have hazardous waste and
most of them will take electronics as well.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
But I'm the same way.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I try and make sure that electronics go to the
proper electronics recycling centers and the like, and not just
toss them in your trash, because there's a lot of
stuff in electronics that can be harmful if it goes
into the wrong place. All right, next thing at best Buy,
that's some Verizon's budget brand, right.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, So this is so I had to look at
my notes.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
We covered the launch of Visible back in twenty eighteen,
and back then, Verizon sort of kept it a secret.
They kind of like, they didn't really say it was Verizon.
They didn't really make a big deal out of it,
but they they kind of put it out there and
there was no stores. That was their big thing, that
this was all digital. So if you wanted to save
a ton of money.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I think it.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Started at forty dollars a month was the initial cost
of this of this monthly plan, So it was forty
dollars a month, unlimited everything, And even at the time
when I was doing the story, I just didn't understand
how that could be true, and so we tested it.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
We tried it.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
It worked out great, but the big catch was that
you had to sign up through their app and it
was only available on iPhone. Anyway, it's come a long
way since then. Visible is very popular. People that know
about it, they love it because it's inexpensive, but it
runs on Verizon's network.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Starting September twenty eighth, you can actually go into a
Best Buy store and purchase Visible plans, but also get
a SIM card if you need it, check your device
to make sure it's compatible before you switch, and talk
to someone with limited questions. It doesn't sound like it's
the full retail experience that you might get at a store,
but hey, it's it's better than nothing if you have
(05:20):
a question about this, all.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Right, Rich, So the iOS twenty six rollout, give us,
give us the nutshell?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah, So, I mean this came out last week and
people have been installing it. I installed it. I was
running the beta before, not on my main device, so
I have been testing it for a while, but I
don't like to put that on my main phone. So
I did install it, just like everyone else out there.
At first, didn't really like it very much. I said, Okay,
what's the point of this. It looks too glitzy and
(05:50):
all these movements and everything's clear. They call it liquid glass.
But now I have grown to really like it, and
I think what I'm hearing from other people is is
very similar responses. So couple things. Number one, like I said,
liquid glass, that's the new name for it. They did
skip from iOS eighteen to iOS twenty six, And if
(06:10):
you want to stay on iOS eighteen you can do that.
When you go into your settings, it says you know
software update, you'll see there's like iOS eighteen point seven.
If you want to stick with iOS eighteen, you can
do that. Apple will continue to put out security updates
at least for a while. Could that be a year,
could it be two years. We're not sure, but I
will let you know when that changes. If you want
(06:32):
to update, you can do that too. So what can
you do in the new system messages gets a lot
of changes. You can create a poll, you can create
backgrounds for your messages.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
That's kind of fun.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
The big feature that I'm really digging is called call screening,
and so basically, once you toggle this on, callers have
to say who they are and why they're calling before
your phone even rings, and then you'll see that info
on your lock screen transcribed and you can decide if
you want to call or sorry, if you want to
pick up. There's also a whole assist which I used
(07:04):
yesterday when I was on hold with a company. Basically,
when it when your phone hears that hold music, it says, hey,
do you want us to hold for you?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Let's see what else clawes. It just doesn't well.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Question, it's well, it senses the hold music. So basically,
once it hears that hold music, it says you get
a little notification on your phone screen. It says do
you want us to hold for you? You tap yes
or you accept it, and then it listens to that
hold music. It listens for a human to pick up,
and once it does, it rings your phone or vibrates
(07:38):
your phone. That's what it did yesterday. Yeah, and by
the way, I know if you're listening and you are
an Android person, You're like rich, you're talking about stuff
it's been available and Android for years. I am well
aware of that. I am not comparing Android to iPhone
right now. Here's the deal. iPhone users, you know, they
understand that when features come to them, it is new
(08:00):
to them. So you can't say, oh, Samsung has had
this forever, Pixel has had this forever. It doesn't matter
to an iPhone user because they have the iPhone and
they don't know what Pixel has. They don't know what
Samsung has, nor do they care. So I'm just putting
that out there. I'm not making, you know, judgments on
which one's better or worse. So I get a lot
of emails about that stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Neil, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Oh, no, I understand, trust me.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
So the clock you can choose your own snooze time. Now,
it used to be limited.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Did you know this.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
It was limited to nine minutes the snooze. Every time
I thought that was.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I didn't know. It was like, you couldn't change it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I just just you know, left it as is, assuming
it was their highest one or whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Now you can do one minute to fifteen minutes. So
if you want a little more snooze. Let's see what.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Oh, this is kind of fun.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
You can make your own ringtone from any audio file,
so that if you open up an audio file.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Remember you used to have to pay like ninety nine
cents for a ringtone.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Back in the day. Oh yeah, now you can just
do that.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
You can just when you're on an audio file, just
share it out and it says uses ringtone. So I
set my own voice. We had some fun at KTLA.
We recorded a segment and I recorded my.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Own voice singing you rickrolled the entire audience. Y.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, man, you really, you don't miss a thing, really,
do you know?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I enjoy work, I really do.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And but I wanted to I wanted to have that
as a ringtone. I was going to move that as
a ring tone on my phone. When Handle calls me.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
That's yeah, you should do that. Just put it or
put on his phone. Yeah, roll him.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It would confuse him, the poor man.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, confused. Well, it doesn't take much.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
No, okay, that's pretty cool. Get on there pretty simply.
You don't have to jump through a bunch of hoops.
You used to have to be a little bit of
a techie back in the day to get your own
ring tones of any kind.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Correct, So you can do that. And then there's a
new app on there. It's called Preview, and this comes
in handy if you ever get you know, your kid,
you got to sign a document, you got to track
whatever you gotta sign, you can now scan it with
this new Preview app and you can edit the PDF
in there, you know, add markups, you fill out the forms,
sign it with your finger on your screen.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So all that good stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
And then, of course, if you hate all of this,
if you don't like the look of liquid glass, I
did post on my Instagram at rich on Tech how
you can kind of tone it down a little bit.
In the accessibility settings, there is an option to reduce transparency,
which means things won't be sc through.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay, now what about the Facebook AI dating Assistant.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I'm so glad. I'm nona in the need.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Thought this was interesting because you know, everyone's swiping. And
by the way, quick story, I was at one of
the original parties for Tinder, and I'll never forget the
guy who started it showing me Tinder like an early
prototype and he's like, watch how fast it is. To
find a date. And I looked at it and I'm
not kidding. This girl went on there like demo it
(10:58):
and she got like a thousand messages and once second
and I'm like, that is insane.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
How is that ever gonna work? Like? This is great?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Anyway, it became a huge thing, but now everyone's swiping, swiping, swiping, swiping.
Facebook says we have swipe fatigue. So now they're using
AI to let you search for people using natural language,
like find someone I can bring home to my parents,
or find a Brooklyn tech bro who likes ed M.
(11:26):
These are the examples they gave Yees so.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Sounds like the mostrrible example I could positively imagine.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Well, I mean that describes a lot of people, I think.
But anyway, so this uses they're not making inferences about people,
They're actually using the info on your profile. But you know,
we all know AI can be horrifically wrong. So we'll
see how this works. But I think it is interesting.
My wife and I always joke that this whole dating
app world, you literally just select like you like you're like,
(12:00):
I want someone who likes bagels on a Sunday morning,
who likes to run, who likes to listen to this music.
Who likes to do that? It's like you're just like
looking for the the other version of you that you
want to love.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So well, my wife's an atheist who hates food.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
So oh well, well let's see. But you guys met
hold on, did you meet online dating?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
We actually met here at the station many years ago.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Right, but now, if you would have met someone, you
would meet someone that loves food. That's basically just you
in another human's body.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, eventually, Yeah, I don't even like sleeping next to myself.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
That's a whole other thing. I'll call doctor Wendy for
that one.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
All right, rich DeMuro, thanks so much for taking the time, buddy,
And yeah, seriously, you are my number one source to
keep up with tech in my life, and I recommend
people who haven't had a chance to listen to the
show or get your newsletter or check out the website
to do so at richon tech oh dot tv as well.
All right, my friend, thanks so much for taking the time.
(13:07):
Thanks Neil, We'll see you everywhere.
A sign for some Rich DeMuro. You can see him
on Channel five. You see him early in the morning. Man,
you have a worse schedule than I do right now,
And of course here I'm here on KFI.
Speaker 2 (00:10):
How you doing, Rich?
Speaker 3 (00:12):
But I love what I do and so that's why
I do it.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
I don't work a day in my life. Yeah, it is.
Speaker 3 (00:19):
It's I can honestly say that, Neil. I mean, so
can you.
Speaker 4 (00:24):
I mean, this is like, yeah, there are far worse
things we could be doing.
Speaker 2 (00:28):
Absolutely.
Speaker 1 (00:29):
You know. I was listening to you as I want
to do on KFI here and you were talking about
the anchor recall, and I think this pains you the
same way it pains me, because, like you, I've always
thought of it as a great brand, a trustworthy brand.
And this is what the third recall in the past
(00:51):
what two years?
Speaker 4 (00:53):
Yeah, it's it's it's at least I mean I remember
because I've done them on the radio show and I'm like,
wait a second. The first one is surprise me. Then
the second one surprised me, and now the third. Now
here's the thing. I will give a couple of things here.
Number one, anchor is very popular, and not just myself many,
many tech people. It is become kind of the recommendation
(01:16):
for power banks because they put out a good product
at a very affordable price tag, and so why not
when you have those two combinations of things, recommend them.
And most of the tech people I know use Anchor products,
including myself. I have one in my bag right now
that I use and love. But yeah, another recall for
their power banks five hundred thousand units now. Also to
(01:38):
put that into perspective, it's a lot, but I have
a feeling that Anchor sells millions upon millions upon millions
of these, So yeah, it's percentages. But the reality is,
you don't want something that you have to be recalled,
and you don't want to be using something that could
potentially overheat or cause a fire whatever. So there are one, two, three, four,
(01:59):
five models. I mean, I could give you the model numbers,
but reality is you probably want to go to the
website and check them out. Rich on tech dot tv
hit notes up at the top. I put all the
model numbers there. But these were sold at best Buy, Target, Amazon, Walmart,
TikTok between August twenty twenty three and June twenty twenty five,
(02:20):
and Neil you can get a refund or a gift card.
Speaker 3 (02:25):
But this is I've actually had to do this before.
Speaker 4 (02:27):
I don't know if you've ever had to do this,
but I've gotten some of these product recalls on Amazon.
You have to write on the device like Recalled in
permanent marker and then submit a photo to get the refunds.
So I had to do this with another product on
Amazon to get a refund. That's what they want you
to do.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
Well, and then what do you send it back to them?
Or do you send it to an electric waste you
know out, Yeah, good question. You cannot just put these
in the trash.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
Do not do that. Don't put them in your regular recycling.
Speaker 4 (02:54):
You have to basically on Anchor's website, they have instructions
for how to find a hazardous waste center. Which is
probably the biggest pain of this whole process is getting
rid of this thing once you are done with it,
once you market as you know Recalled, because you don't
want to market, get the refund, and then still use
it because you just put.
Speaker 3 (03:12):
Yourself at risk. You know.
Speaker 2 (03:14):
It's strangely.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
I've told you before that I do electronics and make
all kinds of stuff at home. And I was going
through my electronics and came across a mercury switch, which
they don't make anymore, that has actual mercury in it.
And that was my first thought is, Oh, this is
going to be a pain, and they asked to get
rid of.
Speaker 3 (03:35):
Yeah, and what you do that's why.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Well, you can find places that have hazardous waste and
most of them will take electronics as well.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
But I'm the same way.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
I try and make sure that electronics go to the
proper electronics recycling centers and the like, and not just
toss them in your trash, because there's a lot of
stuff in electronics that can be harmful if it goes
into the wrong place. All right, next thing at best Buy,
that's some Verizon's budget brand, right.
Speaker 3 (04:04):
Yeah, So this is so I had to look at
my notes.
Speaker 4 (04:07):
We covered the launch of Visible back in twenty eighteen,
and back then, Verizon sort of kept it a secret.
They kind of like, they didn't really say it was Verizon.
They didn't really make a big deal out of it,
but they they kind of put it out there and
there was no stores. That was their big thing, that
this was all digital. So if you wanted to save
a ton of money.
Speaker 3 (04:27):
I think it.
Speaker 4 (04:28):
Started at forty dollars a month was the initial cost
of this of this monthly plan, So it was forty
dollars a month, unlimited everything, And even at the time
when I was doing the story, I just didn't understand
how that could be true, and so we tested it.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
We tried it.
Speaker 4 (04:43):
It worked out great, but the big catch was that
you had to sign up through their app and it
was only available on iPhone. Anyway, it's come a long
way since then. Visible is very popular. People that know
about it, they love it because it's inexpensive, but it
runs on Verizon's network.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Well.
Speaker 4 (04:59):
Starting September twenty eighth, you can actually go into a
Best Buy store and purchase Visible plans, but also get
a SIM card if you need it, check your device
to make sure it's compatible before you switch, and talk
to someone with limited questions. It doesn't sound like it's
the full retail experience that you might get at a store,
but hey, it's it's better than nothing if you have
(05:20):
a question about this, all.
Speaker 1 (05:22):
Right, Rich, So the iOS twenty six rollout, give us,
give us the nutshell?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Yeah, So, I mean this came out last week and
people have been installing it. I installed it. I was
running the beta before, not on my main device, so
I have been testing it for a while, but I
don't like to put that on my main phone. So
I did install it, just like everyone else out there.
At first, didn't really like it very much. I said, Okay,
what's the point of this. It looks too glitzy and
(05:50):
all these movements and everything's clear. They call it liquid glass.
But now I have grown to really like it, and
I think what I'm hearing from other people is is
very similar responses. So couple things. Number one, like I said,
liquid glass, that's the new name for it. They did
skip from iOS eighteen to iOS twenty six, And if
(06:10):
you want to stay on iOS eighteen you can do that.
When you go into your settings, it says you know
software update, you'll see there's like iOS eighteen point seven.
If you want to stick with iOS eighteen, you can
do that. Apple will continue to put out security updates
at least for a while. Could that be a year,
could it be two years. We're not sure, but I
will let you know when that changes. If you want
(06:32):
to update, you can do that too. So what can
you do in the new system messages gets a lot
of changes. You can create a poll, you can create
backgrounds for your messages.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
That's kind of fun.
Speaker 4 (06:42):
The big feature that I'm really digging is called call screening,
and so basically, once you toggle this on, callers have
to say who they are and why they're calling before
your phone even rings, and then you'll see that info
on your lock screen transcribed and you can decide if
you want to call or sorry, if you want to
pick up. There's also a whole assist which I used
(07:04):
yesterday when I was on hold with a company. Basically,
when it when your phone hears that hold music, it says, hey,
do you want us to hold for you?
Speaker 2 (07:12):
Let's see what else clawes. It just doesn't well.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Question, it's well, it senses the hold music. So basically,
once it hears that hold music, it says you get
a little notification on your phone screen. It says do
you want us to hold for you? You tap yes
or you accept it, and then it listens to that
hold music. It listens for a human to pick up,
and once it does, it rings your phone or vibrates
(07:38):
your phone. That's what it did yesterday. Yeah, and by
the way, I know if you're listening and you are
an Android person, You're like rich, you're talking about stuff
it's been available and Android for years. I am well
aware of that. I am not comparing Android to iPhone
right now. Here's the deal. iPhone users, you know, they
understand that when features come to them, it is new
(08:00):
to them. So you can't say, oh, Samsung has had
this forever, Pixel has had this forever. It doesn't matter
to an iPhone user because they have the iPhone and
they don't know what Pixel has. They don't know what
Samsung has, nor do they care. So I'm just putting
that out there. I'm not making, you know, judgments on
which one's better or worse. So I get a lot
of emails about that stuff.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Neil, Yeah, I.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
Oh, no, I understand, trust me.
Speaker 3 (08:22):
I guess.
Speaker 4 (08:23):
So the clock you can choose your own snooze time. Now,
it used to be limited.
Speaker 3 (08:27):
Did you know this.
Speaker 4 (08:27):
It was limited to nine minutes the snooze. Every time
I thought that was.
Speaker 2 (08:32):
I didn't know. It was like, you couldn't change it.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
I just just you know, left it as is, assuming
it was their highest one or whatever.
Speaker 4 (08:40):
Now you can do one minute to fifteen minutes. So
if you want a little more snooze. Let's see what.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Oh, this is kind of fun.
Speaker 4 (08:47):
You can make your own ringtone from any audio file,
so that if you open up an audio file.
Speaker 3 (08:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:52):
Remember you used to have to pay like ninety nine
cents for a ringtone.
Speaker 3 (08:54):
Back in the day. Oh yeah, now you can just
do that.
Speaker 4 (08:58):
You can just when you're on an audio file, just
share it out and it says uses ringtone. So I
set my own voice. We had some fun at KTLA.
We recorded a segment and I recorded my.
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Own voice singing you rickrolled the entire audience. Y.
Speaker 4 (09:13):
Yeah, man, you really, you don't miss a thing, really,
do you know?
Speaker 2 (09:16):
I enjoy work, I really do.
Speaker 1 (09:19):
And but I wanted to I wanted to have that
as a ringtone. I was going to move that as
a ring tone on my phone. When Handle calls me.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
That's yeah, you should do that. Just put it or
put on his phone. Yeah, roll him.
Speaker 2 (09:33):
It would confuse him, the poor man.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Yeah, confused. Well, it doesn't take much.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
No, okay, that's pretty cool. Get on there pretty simply.
You don't have to jump through a bunch of hoops.
You used to have to be a little bit of
a techie back in the day to get your own
ring tones of any kind.
Speaker 4 (09:52):
Correct, So you can do that. And then there's a
new app on there. It's called Preview, and this comes
in handy if you ever get you know, your kid,
you got to sign a document, you got to track
whatever you gotta sign, you can now scan it with
this new Preview app and you can edit the PDF
in there, you know, add markups, you fill out the forms,
sign it with your finger on your screen.
Speaker 3 (10:12):
So all that good stuff.
Speaker 4 (10:13):
And then, of course, if you hate all of this,
if you don't like the look of liquid glass, I
did post on my Instagram at rich on Tech how
you can kind of tone it down a little bit.
In the accessibility settings, there is an option to reduce transparency,
which means things won't be sc through.
Speaker 3 (10:29):
Gotcha.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
Okay, now what about the Facebook AI dating Assistant.
Speaker 2 (10:34):
I'm so glad. I'm nona in the need.
Speaker 3 (10:36):
Oh yeah, I.
Speaker 4 (10:37):
Thought this was interesting because you know, everyone's swiping. And
by the way, quick story, I was at one of
the original parties for Tinder, and I'll never forget the
guy who started it showing me Tinder like an early
prototype and he's like, watch how fast it is. To
find a date. And I looked at it and I'm
not kidding. This girl went on there like demo it
(10:58):
and she got like a thousand messages and once second
and I'm like, that is insane.
Speaker 3 (11:03):
How is that ever gonna work? Like? This is great?
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Anyway, it became a huge thing, but now everyone's swiping, swiping, swiping, swiping.
Facebook says we have swipe fatigue. So now they're using
AI to let you search for people using natural language,
like find someone I can bring home to my parents,
or find a Brooklyn tech bro who likes ed M.
(11:26):
These are the examples they gave Yees so.
Speaker 1 (11:31):
Sounds like the mostrrible example I could positively imagine.
Speaker 3 (11:37):
Wow.
Speaker 4 (11:37):
Well, I mean that describes a lot of people, I think.
But anyway, so this uses they're not making inferences about people,
They're actually using the info on your profile. But you know,
we all know AI can be horrifically wrong. So we'll
see how this works. But I think it is interesting.
My wife and I always joke that this whole dating
app world, you literally just select like you like you're like,
(12:00):
I want someone who likes bagels on a Sunday morning,
who likes to run, who likes to listen to this music.
Who likes to do that? It's like you're just like
looking for the the other version of you that you
want to love.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
So well, my wife's an atheist who hates food.
Speaker 4 (12:14):
So oh well, well let's see. But you guys met
hold on, did you meet online dating?
Speaker 3 (12:20):
No?
Speaker 2 (12:21):
We actually met here at the station many years ago.
Speaker 4 (12:24):
Right, but now, if you would have met someone, you
would meet someone that loves food. That's basically just you
in another human's body.
Speaker 1 (12:31):
Yeah, eventually, Yeah, I don't even like sleeping next to myself.
Speaker 2 (12:39):
That's a whole other thing. I'll call doctor Wendy for
that one.
Speaker 1 (12:44):
All right, rich DeMuro, thanks so much for taking the time, buddy,
And yeah, seriously, you are my number one source to
keep up with tech in my life, and I recommend
people who haven't had a chance to listen to the
show or get your newsletter or check out the website
to do so at richon tech oh dot tv as well.
All right, my friend, thanks so much for taking the time.
(13:07):
Thanks Neil, We'll see you everywhere.
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