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Speaker 1 (00:00):
And as we do every Tuesday, right around this time,
we go to Rich Dumurow, kfi's tech guy, heard every
Saturday right here on KFI eleven am to two pm.
He's on KTLA TV everyday, Instagram at rich on tech website,
Rich on tech dot TV.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Good morning, Rich, Good morning to you.
Speaker 3 (00:21):
Bill.
Speaker 4 (00:21):
Okay, here we go.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
We start with a really interesting story about Australia. Now
we've been talking and I was just the entire world's
been talking, particularly us. Here we hear about a social
media band, I mean outright media ban for kids. Australia
has just picked that one up and it's actually there.
Speaker 4 (00:41):
You want to talk about that, please.
Speaker 3 (00:44):
This is the biggest fear of the US tech companies
what they're doing in Australia, because in the US, you know,
we don't really have a lot of regulations around this stuff.
And so all the tech companies, like the Tiktoks of
the world, the metas, the Instagrams, they have all tried
to make their own parental rules, right, and I'm putting
up air quotes because they're trying. But the reason they're
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trying is because they don't want the US government to
do anything about this. They want to be in charge. Well,
in Australia they said, you know what, enough is enough,
And on Wednesday there is no more social media for
children under sixteen.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
That's it.
Speaker 3 (01:21):
So more than a million accounts are going to be
shut down on Wednesday. These platforms including TikTok, Instagram, YouTube,
Facebook x, Snapchat, Reddit, they all have to take reasonable
steps to make sure that kids under sixteen cannot open
up new accounts and they have to close down the
old accounts or i'll say face fines.
Speaker 1 (01:41):
Now the word you said is reasonable attempts.
Speaker 4 (01:45):
Uh, let's get into that.
Speaker 2 (01:46):
I love you the lawyer coming out.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
Right, because all I can think of, Okay, I'm a
fourteen year old and I'm gonna lie, are you sixteen?
Speaker 3 (01:54):
Well, yeah i am, but I'm not right and they're
already doing that, by the way. So basically, here's that's
what's happened in America over the past you know, ten
years or so. Everyone's been raw, raw raw about all
the technology. Right, sign everyone up, get everyone signed up.
So every parent sign up, their kids, let their kids
sign up, and you get to that little speed bump
that says how old are you? Parent? Goes, I'll just
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put whatever age, twenty one, whatever, didn't matter, right. Well,
now what's happening is all these companies are starting to
use AI to figure out the child's actual age. So
even if your kid put in twenty one because it
was more convenient for the parents and not have to
deal with all that stuff, now the platforms are coming
back and saying, we've scanned the way that this account
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is used and we've used AI to do that, and
we've realized that this child is closer to thirteen than
twenty one, like the account was originally established that so
now we're going to retro change that and you have
to fight to change it back.
Speaker 2 (02:50):
All right. This is happening on Google too.
Speaker 3 (02:52):
People are getting notifications on Google saying, hey, your account
looks like you're under eighteen or twenty one or whatever.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
You have to verify you are who you say you are.
Speaker 1 (03:01):
Yeah, sorry interrupt, But the first thing that came to
mind using AI to figure out someone's age.
Speaker 4 (03:09):
How does that work?
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You know? What is is it an algorithm that has
to be developed putting everything together? Birthday parties they go
to texts that they send each other. What is the
tool that's used or how does the tool work.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, I mean, look, they're all slightly different.
Speaker 3 (03:27):
Like Roadblocks is taking a visual scan of kids' faces,
and so you know, starting in January here in the US,
kids will have to scan their face and they will
be put into a bucket of ages based on their face.
And then other platforms are using different signals like you
mentioned you know, who you text, who you follow, what
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you say, what you post, what you look at. These
are all signals that are fed into AI, and the
algorithm has been trained on what people in their twenties do,
what people in there, you know, thirteen to sixteen do
people in their you know, fifties do, And so that
way they can put you into a bucket of people
that makes sense for what you're doing on there. It's
not always going to be perfect, but especially with kids,
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you know, they're not looking at fine vacations, you know,
in the Baltic Sea or whatever, you know what I mean,
They're they're looking at certain things, certain influencers, and they
know that they're that age.
Speaker 1 (04:20):
So I you know, I'm just thinking, because I always
looked older than my age, I was just the oldest
looking person, and I'm thinking, okay, uh, you know, let
me throw something at you Armenian teenagers where the girls
are growing mustaches quicker than you know the rest of
the population. That, by the way, is going to get
me about fifteen emails.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Why do you do that to rich He doesn't want
to stand next to that. Yeah, well I have to
throw it. I have to throw it at him because he.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
Doesn't get this stuff on his on his other shows
that he does.
Speaker 2 (04:51):
Oh, I certainly do not.
Speaker 4 (04:53):
Yeah, La doesn't.
Speaker 3 (04:54):
I'm gonna look, I'm gonna, I'm just gonna. I looked
at your history on Instagram. So the things that you're
looking at those Worther's hard candies, newspapers, magnifying glass advertisements. Oh,
those giant remote controls with like three buttons on them,
the volume up, down, power. So look, they can tell
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that you are of a certain age just by looking
at your history. Let's put it that way.
Speaker 1 (05:21):
Wow, Okay, I'm sort of I'm not stunned, but I'm
thinking how far it can go?
Speaker 4 (05:29):
And there's really no limit.
Speaker 1 (05:31):
One of the things, just real quickly before we take
a break and we go into the shopping tips and
what you can do to really get great prices on
so many things is I was thinking Sam Altman, when
you were talking about how these companies do not want
these these major companies, sam Altman chat gpt he They
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showed an interview with him a few months ago where
he argued that yes, we do indeed, and over the
course of the years, we do need some controls from
the government. We do need some guardrails. And then something
you said a few days ago, no guardrails. Nope, we
have to do it on our own. So things are
changing pretty quickly.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Yeah, it's in their best interest to not have the guardrails.
It's in our best interest to have at least some guardrails.
But that's still to be determined because everyone has a
different opinion on how those should work, and it's getting
tougher and tougher for people to agree on what we
all agree on.
Speaker 2 (06:28):
If you've noticed, yep.
Speaker 1 (06:30):
And now it is a holiday season upon us and
we are buying still very strong. I mean, sales, particularly
Internet sales are through the roof. So Rich, let's go
through some of the tips you have.
Speaker 3 (06:45):
Yeah, so, I guess my first tip is really for Amazon,
because this is where people do a lot of their shopping.
So Amazon added a new feature this year that you
may not even notice, but it's called price history. So
look for a little link near the price tag that
shows you the price history. So if you're wondering if
you should buy something, you can tap that and you'll
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get thirty to ninety days worth of pricing data, so
you can say, Okay, this is actually on sale at
a pretty reasonable number compared to the past.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
If you want to get this information longer or more
of it.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I guess I should say, there's a website called Camel
Camel Camel. I believe we've spoken about this before, but
you basically paste in one of these Amazon product URLs,
it'll give you a whole bunch of data on pricing.
And if you just want this information always on your
Amazon product pages, you can install an extension called kip A,
k EEPA and bill. Once you install that, there's so
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much information that they put on your Amazon product listings
you may uninstall it because you're like, Okay, this is
just too.
Speaker 2 (07:45):
Much nerdy information for me.
Speaker 3 (07:46):
For instance, I'm looking at this Amazon Kindle fire seven,
and I can tell you all this information that can
give you product data variations, all these things on the page.
While you're looking at your Amazon listings.
Speaker 4 (08:00):
So what would you go all right.
Speaker 1 (08:02):
Real quickly, why would you go to Amazon as opposed
to one of the apps that shows the price across
the board, not just Amazon, but all of the other retailers.
Speaker 3 (08:14):
Well, here's the thing about Amazon, bill. They have these
crawlers that go out on the web, and as soon
as the price gets marked down somewhere, let's say it's
at Target, Macy's, best Buy, whatever, Amazon pretty much matches
that price almost instantly. So the thing about Amazon shoppers
is that they pretty much are loyal to Amazon. They start,
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you know, there's different places where people start their searches
for things for shopping. A lot of people don't even
go to Google. They just go straight to Amazon. And
I don't know if you're like that, but I sure am.
And when I do try to comparison shop, you find that, okay,
well it's the same price at best Buy. It's a
lot easier for Amazon just to deliver this thing to
my front door.
Speaker 4 (08:55):
Yeah, no kidding.
Speaker 1 (08:56):
And then return policy go to ups because lindsay by
a lot of stuff and we get box after box
and I'm the one that drops it off. They don't
even argue, just here we go, they do this zip
with the scanner and you are done and you're in
and out in thirty seconds.
Speaker 3 (09:11):
Yeah, we that we did that two days ago and
we had a whole bunch of stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:14):
And now I will.
Speaker 3 (09:15):
Tell you your return is not completely done until Amazon
reviews it. So it seems like they give you the
money instantly, and sometimes they do. But sometimes, and we
have had this happen where they do that whole system
and you still don't get your refund because after they
go through all their checks and balances, they say, wait,
you return the wrong thing, you scan the wrong thing.
Speaker 2 (09:34):
Whatever.
Speaker 3 (09:35):
Sometimes it's right, sometimes it's not all right. Two sites
that I love for deals Slick Deals. If you're looking
for deals. This is crowdsourced, which means people on the
Internet post great deals, other people vote up the best ones.
Deal News another one, but they use editors. Simply Codes
this website. If you're looking for a promo code before
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you check out, simplycodes dot Com is one of the
best ways to do that. I know we'll run out
of time, so let me give you one good one here.
If you're shopping for groceries over the holiday season, maybe
making those dinners, there's a great new feature at a
website called get savewise dot com slash grocery Get savewise
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dot com slash grocery bill. If you install this extension
on your browser, the next time you go to Ralphs
dot com Vonds dot com, it will activate all those
digital coupons and load them onto your card so you
don't have to do all that work.
Speaker 1 (10:30):
That sounds absolutely great. What are TVs a bargain computers?
What are we looking at in terms of the great
bargains this holiday season?
Speaker 3 (10:41):
I think all of it. I mean, I know we've
heard that tariff's term being thrown around a lot in
the news, but I'll be honest. I mean the prices
we're seeing this year are pretty competitive. You know, fifty
five inch TVs now, I mean now people are up
to sixty five, seventy five inch TVs, eighty five quickly
coming up.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
So TVs are a good deal.
Speaker 3 (10:58):
Laptops, I mean, I'm seeing a lot of deals on laptops,
in fact, slick deals which I mentioned. People are asking
like which laptop to get which laptop? All the prices
I'm seeing are fantastically discounted, and you can find a
list of the best deals going at slick deals, you
can get even Apple's latest MacBook Air for like seven
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hundred and fifty dollars right now. So, I mean, we're
really seeing a lot of discounts on these things. Working
up a list as well on my website. I've got
like the top ten gadgets people are buying this year,
and almost all of them are discounted.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Okay, that's the website is Rich on tech dot TV. Rich.
Thank you. We'll catch you on Sunday.
Speaker 2 (11:40):
Thanks Bill Saturday.
Speaker 1 (11:40):
I'm sorry, I'll catch you on Saturday. I just think
I was talking to Joel Saturday, eleven am to two pm.
Speaker 2 (11:45):
Rich.
Speaker 1 (11:45):
You have a good one, Okay. Happy happy holidays, even
though I'm going to talk to you before the holidays officially,
all right,