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Speaker 1 (00:00):
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Let's start with HBO No Max No.

Speaker 3 (00:28):
Two years ago, the deep thinkers at Warner Brothers Discovery
had the not so bright idea of taking HBO Max
their flagship streaming service, dropping HBO, which was, as you know,
synonymous as being the Cadillac of PayTV, and instead just
went with Max. Yeah, that worked out really, really well.

(00:49):
It turned out that not only did consumers not really
respond to a company called Max, but by bringing in
all of the Discovery content as a selling point, turned
out nobody's really watching the Discovery content. They were going
on to Max to see the HBO content.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
Now, hold on, I do love the HBO content, but
I love watching house hunting shows because I I think
I've mentioned this before, I mock the people on there mercilessly.
If you want a genuine look into my ID, hang
out with me while I'm watching one of those shows.

(01:24):
I am a horrible, horrible person. And my son and
I do this together. It's how we bond, and we
laugh and we laugh and we laugh, Okay, Carrion.

Speaker 3 (01:36):
And that was a real issue, and so the execsit
Warner Brothers Discovery finally came around after two years and said,
you know.

Speaker 2 (01:43):
What we should do.

Speaker 3 (01:43):
We should rename Max HBO Max. And so here we are.
What's old is new again, deja vu all over again.
Put it however you want. We're back where we started.
And it's not such a big surprise because right now
Warnerer's Discovery is discovered they can't compete with Netflix. Netflix
wants to be all things to all people, whereas Warner

(02:05):
Brothers Discovery now realizes the way to position HBO Max
as it's being re christened, is as a high end
niche player, in other words, the Cadillac of PATV companies,
which is what HBO was in the first place.

Speaker 2 (02:19):
All right, Well whatever, as long as I got the content,
I was just getting used to calling it Max. But
I thought it was a dumb move too. But I've
seen other companies that have rebranded themselves, and it takes
a little while for us to get used to it,
and then we do or we don't call the max.

Speaker 4 (02:31):
I just called it HBO Max the entire time, and
it's just like Twitter and X. Nobody calls it X
you're weird. So yeah, it's so pointless. Just give me
my shows, man.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
I think you're right when when we've talked about Last
of Us and other shows on there, we just say
it's on HBO, don't we right? Yeah, you're right, you're right.
I just don't care. But I don't have any investment
in it. So as long as I know which icon
I'm clicking on on my Prime or my yeah my,
what do I have Amazon TV or my Roku or

(03:02):
whatever I have one of each, then uh, I don't care.
As long as I can log in, I don't care
what it's called. Don't don't start cracking down on passwords.
That's the big one.

Speaker 4 (03:13):
That and never take friends off of the streaming service.
That's all I care about.

Speaker 2 (03:17):
I think they're going to crack down on password schaaring.
Why why do you say that I read something that
they're cracking down on password chearing?

Speaker 4 (03:23):
Oh okay, well yeah do it?

Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, yeah, I hope they don't, but I hate when
they do.

Speaker 4 (03:28):
Well Netflix said that they were going to do it,
and I have not been impacted. I don't know about
anybody else in the world.

Speaker 2 (03:33):
But here's the funny thing is that I'm not the
one who's who's stealing it. I'm not the one who's
benefiting than me. Well, no, I share my no, no, no, no, no, no,
I would share with you. I share with my kids, though,
who are all like your age. I share with my
kids so that they don't have to pay right, because
they're broke.

Speaker 4 (03:51):
Yeah, my brother shares with me because I live in
LA and it's crazy.

Speaker 2 (03:54):
It's crazy, right, right, So I share with my kids
and they're like, well you can do that, Like, they
don't have the money for it, so you know, as
far as they're concerned, they don't care. And I think,
now you want my kids watching your shows because they're
going to talk about it with other people. And that's
how you you know, remember when Netflix used to encourage

(04:15):
people to share their passwords because that's how they get
word of mouth, that's how they get buzz. So some
of these smaller streamers, you know, the HBO, I don't know.
HBO has like thirty million subscribers, a hundred million I
don't know how many of that, but not as many
as Netflix. And so I think when you're the underdog,
you've got to have as many eyeballs on your product

(04:35):
as possible. I was saying, give it away for free.
You got to get eyeballs on your products. Speaking of
trying to get eyeballs on the product, how about the
greatest cable channel ever? You know what that is? C Span.
Of course, c SPAN is getting ready to really live
and things.

Speaker 5 (04:51):
Up in a nation divided, a rare moment of unity
this fall. C SPAN presents ceasefire, where the shouting stops
and the conversation begins.

Speaker 2 (05:03):
This sounds like a Saturday Night Live bit, doesn't it.
Cease fire. It's when we don't really do much that's exciting.
Cease fire only on c Span.

Speaker 5 (05:14):
In a town where partisan fighting prevails.

Speaker 2 (05:16):
They even found like the boring is v O guy
who's got a place. Don't get me wrong, I never
want to knock somebody in the business who's you know,
working hard, but it's like they're trying to build excitement.
And then they go in a world, in a world,
in a town where in a town, in a town, right,
you gotta in a world, give.

Speaker 4 (05:36):
The most boring delivery, drive delivery you could possibly get.
That's kind of what the note said when they.

Speaker 5 (05:41):
In a town.

Speaker 6 (05:42):
Where in a town, in a town, and if you
want to come by, it's okay, it'd be great.

Speaker 2 (05:48):
No, you gotta be like you want to be a
town in a town? Yeah right, I just like I
kicked it by my EQ.

Speaker 5 (06:00):
In a town where partisan fighting prevails, one table, two leaders,
one goal, to find common ground.

Speaker 2 (06:08):
No.

Speaker 7 (06:09):
No.

Speaker 2 (06:11):
In a town, one table, two leaders, one door, only
one gets out alive veins only on c SPAN.

Speaker 5 (06:22):
In a town where partisan fighting prevails, Right, two leaders,
one goal.

Speaker 2 (06:29):
Only one survives.

Speaker 5 (06:31):
To find common ground.

Speaker 2 (06:33):
No this fall.

Speaker 5 (06:35):
Ceasefire on the network that doesn't take sides only on
c SPAN.

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Listen to that uplifting music Ceasefire, turning down the rhetoric.
I support it. I think it's going to be very intelligent,
and it is also proof that we are never going
back to a world of civility ever, because if it's
on c SP, it is officially uninteresting and way too smart.
We are not going to sit down and try to

(07:05):
find solutions. That is not what America does anymore. We
don't so good tri c span and you've ruined everything. Well,
speak of politics in entertainment. Did you see that the
the tariffs that proposed, you know, the one hundred percent
tariffs and things not produced in Hollywood could wreck Croatia?

(07:27):
Did you catch this? Poor Croatia? It turns out that
the town that the Game of Thrones was filmed in
has been in a number of other projects as well,
and they are really worried.

Speaker 8 (07:39):
Dreams of tourists flocked to the ancient Croatian city of
Dubrovnik to visit Game of Thrones filming locations.

Speaker 2 (07:46):
And now that we've got writers reporting in their high
English accent, we know it's legit.

Speaker 8 (07:51):
But US President Donald Trump's threats to impose a one
hundred percent tariff on all movies produced outside the US
have alarmed the entertainment industry. Some locals in Dubrovnik, which
was also used to film Star Wars The Last Jedi
Thear directors, may no longer film there. Central European countries
and the Balkans have been used by Hollywood for years

(08:13):
for their dramatic scenery, architecture and tuop filming costs. If
a movie or series is a hit, those locations can
become hugely popular with visitors. At Dubrovnik, tour Guide said
the numbers of visitors there have hiked, with one thousand
of tourists joining a Game of Thrones tour every day.

Speaker 2 (08:32):
Wow. Here Throw has been off the air for a
few years too, and they've still got a thousand tourists
a day for that.

Speaker 8 (08:37):
New souvenir shops were opened and jobs created for tourist
tribes and locals. Assisting in form.

Speaker 6 (08:42):
Was that let's say it's not too shocking, because don't
people still.

Speaker 2 (08:46):
Do the walk for Lord of the Rings. Oh yeah,
probably in New Zealand probably. Yeah. Last Jedi, she said,
was film there twenty eighteen's Robin Hood. Did anybody see that?
Not like that was one of those where it was
in the theater for a week. No. Yeah. James Bond
franchise specific scenes are limited and often focused on locations

(09:08):
outside of the old town. The city's stunning coastline and
architectural beauty have been featured in the background of various
sequences in James Bond movies, as well so a few
other things that have been in there. It's a really
cool old town, kind of a medieval, kind of deal,
and yeah, they're worried about tariffs and it could could
wreck everything. All right, we'll continue. There's no business like

(09:31):
show business.

Speaker 1 (09:33):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.

Speaker 2 (09:38):
There's no business.

Speaker 4 (09:39):
Line show business.

Speaker 2 (09:42):
The latest on Diddy Diddy or Didity Union Tea and
his ex girlfriend. I guess, Cassie Ventura. Fine, she's married
now and she's eight months pregnant. I took the stand
as a tough spot for defense attorney because they have
to you basically say to the victim, You're not really

(10:03):
a victim, are you? That is awkward.

Speaker 9 (10:06):
Cassie Ventura on the witness stand for a fourth day
in the federal criminal trial against hip hop mogul Sean
Diddy Combs. The defense continuing cross examination this morning, confronting
her with dozens of her own messages, many explicit, hoping
to convince the jury she was an eager sexual partner
who matched Combs's desires. I'm always ready to freak off,

(10:26):
one message, said. Ventura testified that she had no free
will in their relationship, and that when she tried to
leave one of those drug fueled performances, this violence captured
on cameras at a Los Angeles hotel ensued you can.

Speaker 2 (10:38):
Oh yeah, you remember you saw that video. That's the
one where he comes She comes out of a hotel
room and heads to the elevator, and he comes out
wearing nothing but a towel and flip flops, catches her
at the elevator and then just smacks the hell out
of her, kicks her, drags her by her hair. Uh yeah,
that's the video we're talking about in Sea.

Speaker 4 (10:58):
Combs kicking in, drag her.

Speaker 9 (11:00):
But the defense said Ventura's participation in the freak Offs
was at times her idea, showing a text message from
days earlier that said, baby, I want to fo so bad.
You proposed a freak off? A defense attorney said, you
kept asking him. Combs's lawyers revealed he overdosed on painkillers
in twenty twelve.

Speaker 2 (11:17):
That anybody ever been invited to a freak off? I
never got invited to one. I wonder why.

Speaker 4 (11:21):
I don't think I'm cool enough to get invited to
a freaking yeah or unlucky enough.

Speaker 2 (11:25):
Usually they just tell me to buzz off freak but
never a freak.

Speaker 4 (11:29):
Off, So asking Ventura.

Speaker 9 (11:31):
Were the worst years associated in any way with his
drug use. Yeah, I would say the defense.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
Oh, the drugs made him do it. Oh, that's the problem.

Speaker 9 (11:40):
I'm hoping to convince the jury Combs became violent not
to coerce Ventura into sex, but because.

Speaker 4 (11:45):
He was an addict.

Speaker 9 (11:46):
They argue he may have been abusive, but that he's
not guilty of sex trafficking.

Speaker 2 (11:51):
Yah. That's the defense you get when you've got the
guilty as sin defendant. Like, he may have been very violent,
he may have beaten the the s out of his girlfriends,
but he's not a sex trafficker, is he? Trump? Stop it,
don't go down that road. Don't you dare you? Don't

(12:16):
you dare to?

Speaker 9 (12:17):
As attorney's optimistic outside of court, get us in trouble,
doing great.

Speaker 2 (12:21):
I said she was ready, and I think she's demonstrating that. Okay,
But there's a twist to this. Remember I said she's
eight months pregnant now.

Speaker 10 (12:29):
In a letter to the judge overnight, federal prosecutors argue
that defense lawyers are trying to purposely prolong their cross
examination of Cassie Ventura, hoping that if she goes into
labor that there could be potentially a mistrial. The defenses
argue though, that they have a right to thoroughly cross
examine the witness fill up.

Speaker 2 (12:50):
So they're like, well, maybe we just have to we
just have to delay as long as we can, so
maybe she goes into labor and then they have to
call the whole thing off. You gotta love the American
justice system. Were We're like, well, you know, what are
we gonna do? She went into labor, so I guess
we can't put this sex trafficking guy behind bars, So
you know better look next time. Sorry? Did he did

(13:13):
send her a text after that elevator incident. You want
to hear what it said? Mind you, this is pretty gross. Okay,
So here it is. So he beats the hell out
of her at that elevator. It's the video that we
all saw. And then just days after the incident, did
he texted Ventura and said, I'm so horny for you.

(13:37):
Ventura said she was surprised and replied, you are What
made you feel that way? He said, I felt that
way from Friday? What you doing? Yeah? She said she
thought it was a little strange that Colmbs would say
that he desired her sexually after he kicked and punched
her that day. She said that wasn't a good vibe.

(13:58):
We need a different vibe than Friday. And he said
f Friday. Lol, I don't even want to do that again.
She said, lol. True, So that feels like a healthy relationship. Meanwhile,
just see, Chris Brown got dragged into this this ole
diddy thing. His name got dropped at one of the trials.

(14:19):
So Chris Brown's the name gets dropped, and he came
up when Combs lawyer asked Casey Venture about the time
when the Bad Boy Records mogul was mad at her.
Do you remember when Comb's thought you were dancing with
Chris Brown? She said, I do, but I was not.
I wasn't dancing with Chris Brown. And then he moved

(14:40):
on to another topic. So Chris Brown came up in
the conversation. Chris Brown has got his own problems. Though
Chris Brown is now under arrest in the UK.

Speaker 11 (14:47):
A UK cort has ordered Chris Brown to be held
in custody for twenty twenty three nightclub assault. Police arrested
Brown in Manchester for his alleged attack on a man
at a London nightclub two years ago. He's been with
grievous bodily harm with intent Brown is currently on tour
in the UK, but it's unclear how this case will
impact his remaining shows there.

Speaker 2 (15:08):
Yeah, not the not great news for Chris Brown. You
just got brought up in a sex trafficking trial, although
not really associated with anything, and then now you've been
arrested for assault. Incidentally, did you see what sug Knight said?
Sug Knight said that Trump is gonna pardon Diddy if
Didd he is convicted. What are the odds that happens?

(15:28):
Is Trump gonna pardon did he if he found guilty
for sex trafficking and racketeering?

Speaker 4 (15:36):
I don't think Trump said anything about Diddy.

Speaker 2 (15:38):
And hasn't sug Knight did.

Speaker 4 (15:41):
Yeah, I know, but I think if Trump was gonna
do that, Trump would have probably said something, don't you think, Uh?

Speaker 2 (15:46):
You know, they they pitched to Trump that he should
that he should pardon Derek Chauvin. That's the guy that
killed George Floyd. Who do you think what would be worse?
What would be a bigger mistake? Let me phrase it
that way, would be a bigger mistake pardoning Diddy or
partning Derek Chauvin.

Speaker 4 (16:06):
Both of them are awful, horrible.

Speaker 2 (16:09):
I think he could get away with. Politically speaking, I
think he could get away with pardoning Derek Chaulveren because
I think a lot of his his accolytes are like, oh,
that was a terrible trial, that was all media and racism,
and Derek Chauven was just being a good cop. But
if you pardon a sex trafficker, then that's a bad deal. Like,

(16:30):
you'll have no support on that. But I'm with you.
How about you don't pardon anybody? That would be fine
with me too. I hope Chaven rots for the rest
of his life behind bars. That's what he deserves, So
I hope nobody gets a pardon. It just frustrates me
that these names even get thrown out as potential pardons.

Speaker 4 (16:50):
And then this political climbing. You just never know what's
going to happen. It's like, you know, you were talking
about the White House having its own channel or streaming
service service, yeah, entertainment service.

Speaker 6 (16:59):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
It's like it's it doesn't feel like political reality. It
seems like a reality television show.

Speaker 2 (17:05):
And it's plausible though, Like you throw that out and
you go, I believe that could happen, right, nobody goes
that would never happen. We all go, yeah, I could
see it. Oh, unbelievable. All right, we messed up with
No Broke Broke. Next, you're gonna find out just how
broke we all are.

Speaker 1 (17:22):
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Speaker 2 (17:28):
How are spending my Sunday evening of news? Thank you
so much for being a part of it, Chris Merrill,
I AM six forty on demand anytime the iHeartRadio app.
How much are you spending on your subscriptions? We just
made mention the last I don't know, two seconds ago,
whatever it was, we made mention that HBO is changing

(17:50):
their their name or I guess Max is changing their
name back to HBO Max. And we were talking about
how I don't really care what the what they call themselves.
Just don't crack down and password sharing because I share
my password with my kids. My kids are adults, they're
all they're all in there, rule breaker. Yeah, I know,
I'm a real rebel. Uh and uh so I share

(18:13):
with them. They're broke, they ain't got nothing, huh and
uh As we all know, nobody's messing with No Broke Broke.

Speaker 12 (18:22):
Saying see you go, dig u machine mess and win.
No broke broke up saying, see machine, well, how much
are you spending? Because I got to think it about this.
I have a lot of subscriptions I've made mentioned before.
I dumped Netflix because it was my most expensive subscription,
and so every time I see one of those, Oh,
this show on Netflix is breaking records and this has

(18:43):
one hundred percent Rotten Tomatoes score, I.

Speaker 2 (18:45):
Kind of feel like I'm missing out. But I just uh,
I just added Disney Plus and so I've rather Disney
Plus Hulu package or whatever. And then, uh, I was
just thinking about this. I got Apple, which I like
best value, although I got around Christmas. I got Peacock

(19:05):
for two dollars a month for a year, So that's
pretty good value. Hell yeah, Peacock rules, it's pretty good value,
especially two bucks a month, Right, how do you pass
that up? But I also have I got Max and
Amazon Prime, and I feel like I'm still missing one
in there somewhere.

Speaker 6 (19:20):
I just feel like, and they all have their own strains,
but I feel like Peacock has like the broadest library
because technically it's NBC, right, right, But you've got shows
that are from CBS, Fox, Kate or not Kate DLA.
But the CW Yeah, like they it covers so many

(19:42):
great lot of them.

Speaker 2 (19:43):
Yeah, I'm with you on that. I get it. I
get it, which is what you know, Netflix was trying
to do with so many And that's one of the
reasons I like Hulu so much, because Hulu's got a
bunch of that too. It's not just ABC products, it's
it's it's a bunch of other stuff, including Wrexham, which
first two episodes of Wrexham are stellar. So I was
thinking about it and I go, man, I'm putting in
you know, it's ten bucks here, it's eighteen dollars there,

(20:05):
it's fifteen dollars here, and then Amazon Prime keeps going up.
To come to find out, Seene did a study and
they said that Americans spend over one thousand dollars a
year on just subscriptions. Now we're not even only talking
about We're not just talking about streaming subscriptions. These are
other subscriptions as well.

Speaker 6 (20:22):
And.

Speaker 2 (20:24):
That's adding up quick like. But by generation it's a
little bit different. The generation that spends the most is Kayla,
that's you girl, You are spending the most.

Speaker 4 (20:38):
I've really helped me.

Speaker 2 (20:41):
I can't do it millennials spending the most, but also
the millennials tend to and I'm going to lump you
in with all the other millennials, Kayla. They tend to
be at that age where they're settling down, starting families,
that sort of thing, and so they're starting to assuage
the night life and engage in the family life. Kaylee,
you're not. You're still crazy.

Speaker 13 (21:01):
I'm a millennial doing exactly that what you're talking about exactly.

Speaker 2 (21:05):
Okay, let's use Brigitta a lot.

Speaker 4 (21:07):
That's an example. I'm outside party. I was spending so
much too as a family woman.

Speaker 2 (21:13):
Okay, on streaming or on other stuff.

Speaker 4 (21:15):
Oh I just jumped into this conversation.

Speaker 13 (21:18):
No not oh yeah, no, on streaming and on just
subscriptions in general, every service, yes, everything.

Speaker 2 (21:25):
The other thing too. If we take a look at
the breakdown, it's not just it's not just streaming services.
We're spending it on. Hold on here, what I got
in front of me. It's not just streamers, industries under pressure,
blah blah blah blah. Oh, that's that's about streamers specifically,
But it's it's like you said, magazine or online news articles.
It's about other subscriptions that we get wrapped up in.

(21:48):
And then the crazy thing is you've got a lot
of places that are making money on you that promise
to track your subscriptions. Have you seen what's the is
it quick Books? It's got the They're like, oh, are
you anyway do you have a subscription? You don't even
know about it. And everybody's to spend a Spotify and
Pandora and maybe they got to satellite radio. Don't do that,
you got iHeart free. But a lot of other subscriptions

(22:11):
going on as well. So people are going, I don't
have any money, and then they take a look and
they go where's my money going, and go, oh, it's
going away fifteen bucks at a time. And we are shifting.
We are shifting to a rental economy. I tried to
explain this to my kids. I said, we rent everything
because you can't take anything with you. But the longer

(22:32):
you own it, the less your payments on the rent.
So for instance, you buy a house, I own this house. Sure,
you do until you're dust, and once your dust, you
don't own it anymore. That house is getting passed on
to somebody else, or it's being sold and somebody else
is going to take the profits. Ultimately, everything that we
have is temporary. And I'm gonna sound a little bit

(22:54):
philosophical here, and I don't mean to get too deep
in the weeds on this, but everything is a constant payment,
even after you get something paid off. Like, for instance,
I got a car. I'm making payments on my car
right and I know that once I have that car
paid off, the longer I hold on to that car,
the more value I get out of every payment that
I made along the way. Okay, so everything is a
constant payment. But what happens when you go and buy

(23:16):
a car? What does the salesperson always say? Salesperson doesn't
say how much you want to spend? No, no, no,
no no, no, salesperson knows. They say what do you
want your monthly payment to be? That's because we do
everything now. We don't base our lives any longer about
building equity. For many people, they've given up on the
American dream of owning a home and they just go,

(23:37):
I'm gonna be a forever renter. And rather than saying
I'm gonna squirrel away money so I can come up
with a down payment, we start seeing the news articles
in California about how you have to make three hundred
and fifty thousand dollars a year to be able to
afford a median home in Orange County, and you go,
I'll never do that. But I can keep renting my
current place at three grand a month or four grand
a month, whatever you're paying, I don't know. And you go,

(23:59):
I can do that, but I can't keep squirreling away
enough money to come up with two hundred thousand dollars
for a down payment. Instead, I'm gonna take any extra money.
I'm gonna put that in a vacation front and I'm
gonna go live my life. I'm gonna rent, and then
I'm gonna spend the rest of my money on living.
In other words, we're not concerned with building equity any longer.
It's all about cash flow, not a great way to

(24:19):
build wealth. A lot of people saying, yeah, but I'm
living my life. I'm not saving money. I'm not squirreling
that away for a down payment in order to build wealth.
But I am going to enjoy the new season of
Wrexham or Last of Us or ted Lasso or whatever's
on Peacock. That's what we've decided we're gonna spend our

(24:40):
money on instead, and we've basically resolved ourselves to saying
life is about rentals, It's about cash flow. And since
I can't take it with me anyway, what do I
care if I have a lot in the end. When
you're gonna care is when you want to retire. That's
when you're gonna care about it, because honestly, building wealth,
as long as you're taking those cash flows, that's fine

(25:02):
until it comes time to retire. And I don't know
about you guys, but I hit my mid forties and
I went I only got about twenty some years left here,
and that means I better make sure I got enough money.
And if I got enough money, if I've got enough wealth,
I can enjoy another twenty years after that. Of course,

(25:22):
probably not. My heart will probably give out, probably have
some heart attack day before I retire. My wife will
collect all the life insurance. I won't enjoy anything. Just
don't get any fights, that's right, because, as we learned
earlier on tonight's show, every time I get in a fight,
I get my ass kicked bad. All right? If I

(25:45):
kick off, will my wife DI have a broken heart syndrome.
Probably not, according to science.

Speaker 1 (25:52):
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to chill.

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Just love Kaylea all right, I have just learned about
that drop today.

Speaker 2 (26:31):
Yeah, what was it like three weeks ago that some
guy said that I love it. That's my favorite thing ever.
It's so good. Kayla needs to chill, calm down, Kayla exactly.
And then Brigitta. Whenever Brigitta comes in, everything gets a
little bit better. So we're we're so glad that when
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feels likelies come home. Yeah, yes, perfect. Speaking of family,
there's nobody we like more than our big sister, doctor
Wendy Walsh. She brings to doctor Wendy after dark, starting
at seven o'clock. Doctor Wendy, I wanted to ask you
about this. What's a broken heart syndrome? I was reading
about this week. It is the thing, and I've said

(27:14):
before my grandmother died like a year after my grandfather, huh,
and when he passed, she just didn't know what to
do with herself. And when she died, it was I mean,
it was a surprise, but well it was like I
think it was a broken heart syndrome situation. Yeah, And
they're saying that it kind of manifests itself in uh,
you know, like.

Speaker 4 (27:37):
Right grieving.

Speaker 7 (27:39):
Here's the thing about relationships, You actually kind of emerge
and become one identity. Obviously, you have to have individual
autonomy to have a healthy relationship and some overlap, but
that overlap is what dies.

Speaker 4 (27:49):
Right.

Speaker 7 (27:50):
And actually my own parents, my mom died of breast
cancer and like about six months later, my dad got
lung cancer and died in six weeks.

Speaker 2 (27:58):
Really, oh yeah.

Speaker 4 (28:00):
And I was young. It was it was, it was bad.

Speaker 7 (28:02):
But anyway, So we had a cardiologist on our show
a couple of years ago who said two things that
was interesting. He said, broken heart syndrome really is a
thing and people can die from it. But secondly, he's
never known anyone who's in deep love in the early
stages of love to ever have a heart attack. He
thinks love is very protective of heart disease.

Speaker 2 (28:25):
Interesting, is that like maybe the adrenaline or something, maybe.

Speaker 7 (28:30):
All those hormones, all of those hormones.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (28:34):
Interesting. So, doctor Wendy, I wanted to kind of talk
with you about that and then the things that you've
talked about about relationships, that relationships have like a time
period and you go and this relationship was great until
it was over right, But like in the case of
my grandparents is fifty years together and I'm guessing your
parents were together a long time.

Speaker 4 (28:53):
You know, thirty thirty five, thirty years thirty five.

Speaker 2 (28:56):
So I mean, when we talk about a relationship, it
was good and then we were just done and it
was fine, and that's that's part of the cycle of relationships.
But how does that how does that reconcile because this
broken heart syndrome seems like, as you mentioned, people start
to kind of meld into one identity.

Speaker 7 (29:13):
A lot of people can suffer great mental health and
physical health after divorce as well, not just death. And
that's from really secure, long term attachments. But I think
the other thing you're kind of getting that here is
that because of our very long life expectancies, you know,
we're outliving our relationships, right, and they end when they end,

(29:34):
and closure and culmination happens. I hate the term a
failed relationship. No such thing, right, But in our grandparents' time,
there were different expectations for relationships. You didn't expect to
find your soulmate and have romantic love until death to
us part. You kind of stayed in your own lane,
and you each had your job to do, and it

(29:56):
was one of survival and exchanging enough care to get
some kids up and out of the nest and everybody
stay alive. And today relationships are far more fragile because
people are putting much higher expectations on them.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Is that fair?

Speaker 7 (30:12):
It's not fair at all. But I'll tell you what
relationships have become a replacement for the village. We have
lost our interconnected village. So our social support system used
to be our friends, our family, our small town. But
now because of the last of really i'd say thirty
forty years of the mobility needed for modern capitalism, mobility

(30:36):
of employees. People are just moving around the country like
crazy and being pulled away from their support networks. So
they're putting it all on their significant other to be everything.
And it is really unfair.

Speaker 2 (30:50):
I've really but I yeah, yeah, why is my wife
soone fair to me? I've done that. I mean radio,
You know how radio goes. You work your way up
and you move from market to market.

Speaker 7 (31:02):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (31:03):
Yeah, No, this is if you're moving.

Speaker 7 (31:05):
You're moving her uprooting her and bringing her around. That
means every place you land and the people you've left
behind you replace them and their jobs in her life,
their emotional jobs.

Speaker 2 (31:16):
Yeah, but she the same thing for me, right, I mean, so.

Speaker 4 (31:19):
You start to rely on each other more.

Speaker 2 (31:21):
Right, But I always thought that was a good thing
for the relationship, like, hey, we're always there for one another.

Speaker 7 (31:25):
Yeah, but humans need a wide support system. Yes, you
do need a best friend that you can rely on
in your relationship. But it also makes them more fragile
because most relationships can't live up to that expectation of
all be everything for you.

Speaker 2 (31:41):
And this is why I keep telling her to lower
her expectations of me.

Speaker 7 (31:45):
I actually think it sad, but it sounds like good
advice see listen.

Speaker 2 (31:51):
If you want to warm up to Doctor Wendy, you
want to listen to my show starting at four o'clock
every Sunday, and the Doctor Wendy will take it home.
But if you want good relationship advice for a few
hours beforehand will before you get the great relationship advice,
I'm here for you and lowering expectations is where it starts.
Dr Wendy Walls Doctor Wendy after Doctor it starts right
after we check O News with Brigitta, Doctor Wendy have
a great show, Camp Doctor next week to check it's

(32:12):
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