August 24, 2025 • 39 mins
Hour 3- There's no business like show business!! We are talking to Bella Zoe Martinez about Once More, Like Rain Man, a short film currently up for an Oscars nomination. Written by and starring autistic actress Bella Zoe Martinez, the film follows a 14 year old Zoe as she navigates a frustrating series of auditions for autistic roles, only to be told again and again that she’s “not autistic enough.” It’s a poignant, humorous, and all too real reflection on the challenges of authenticity and representation in Hollywood. MORE THAN 40% of the cast and crew are either neurodiverse or living with a disability, as well. It's all on KFIAM-640!!
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hear that, Kayla?
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That was aggressive?
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Wow, teacher's pet over there. You know what you have?
He was listening to the show. You're working on killing me?
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Maybe?
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Speaker 3 (01:05):
All right, in from O Kelly this week, so we'll
find out. Uh did you prime our guests?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Kayla?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Okay, so she's ready to go here? Oh yeah, very good.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Please welcome to the program, actress, writer, producer, anything else
you want to throw in her at the end of Bella,
Zoey Martinez, there's no business like.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Bella.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Remember, there's no business like Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
All right, Kayla, that one.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Listen. I'm blaming I'm blaming Nikki and Sam right now.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, I get that. Guys, do we have.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I had everything set up?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Oh my yeah, I know this is great. This is
going over really well. I love this Bella. Are you there?
Can you hear me? Now? Can you hear me? Now? Hey? Sam,
will you just let me know it's down my ear.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
When you when she's good? Okay, Cala, let's continue to
tell me you Bella on. Okay, I'm feeling I'm feeling
wonderful about the way this is going right now, Uh quick,
heads up here, really sad news and in fact, Brigitta,
I don't know if you talked about this, but Jerry
Adler passed away.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I know that we've mentioned this in the news a
few times tonight. I don't know if it was in
your cast. Hello, who is this? Sorry line?
Speaker 7 (02:28):
What?
Speaker 8 (02:28):
Dad? Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I can? Is this?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Bela?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yes, Bella, Zilly Martinez.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
There's no business like business?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
All right? There? There she did?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Thank you, Balla.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
All right, listen, Bella, here's what I think happened. Bella.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
We're gonna blame Sam. So if you want to say, Sam,
shame on you. I'm down with that same.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
Shame on you.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Shame Sam.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
I don't know. I don't know what happened, but that was.
That was a panic of a minute.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Right because I didn't have anything else plan for this segment, so,
you know, brutal for all of us.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
But I was ready to stay a bit because I
was and I'm like, and then I cut me off.
I'm like, you're very very real.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yes, it was, You're great. Hey, talk to me a
little bit because I was.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I saw the press release on your film, and I
apologize because I had not seen the short.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But then all of a sudden, I took a look
at all the awards you won.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Holy cow, I mean you walked away with all the
jury awards and prizes from just about every film festival
you wentered. The film was once more like rain Man,
So it seems to be not necessarily autobiographical, but but
very paris.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
It's not really a documentary. It's loosely based off real
auditions that I have gone to or like some that.
But but it's it's not a documentary. It's just a
story told by somebody who happens to be on the spectrum,
which is me and of the cast and crew were
like some forum of nerday virsions as well, and we
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ended earlier every day.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
So that was awesome.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
I actually did break I think I actually broke Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh it was your fault, I see now I don't know. Yeah,
So how did you end up with Sam?
Speaker 8 (04:20):
Blame Sam like.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You said, but yeah, we're blaming Sam and all of it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
How did you end up with forty percent of the
cast and crew that were neurodiversion?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Is that something that you set out to do?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Did you hire people with whom you had previous working
relationships or was it one of those things that the
more you started discussing, you know, the film and the content,
you found out, Wow, a lot of people around us
have these experiences.
Speaker 8 (04:41):
Okay, we started mainly like discussing, like my parents were
the main producers on my short film, and like we
were basically able to just talk about this film with
a lot of people that we knew and just like
brought in connections from there because we were filming this
particular short during the writer strike in twenty twenty three,
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and we had that's not the paperwork, so we were
like technically the only film somewhat getting paid for our
effort year. But like we all got like paid these
exact same amounts. Oh wow, the man that this was
her first directing job, and she did absolutely phenomenal and
we would not have been like seen the funnel result
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without her.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
She was amazing one hundred percent. Again.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
The film once More Like rain Man follows this fourteen
year old named Zoe as she's going through a number
of auditions for autistic roles. And you were told or
whether I say, your character was told not autistic enough?
Is that something that you and your By the way,
you're not fourteen, you're how old are you?
Speaker 8 (05:48):
I turned twenty this month. Actually when I was filming,
I was actually like around eighteen.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Okay, all right, so not not too far off? Have
you actually gone to auditions where somebody said to you
that you're not autistic enough.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
Yes, actually I've actually been. Like a lot of them
are based off real scripts that I've actually gotten, but
like they were never met with like any ill intent.
Like when it came to like doing breakdowns for normal characters,
I had thoughts feeling complex motivation, but when I got
like breakdowns for like autistic characters, they've always kind of
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felt like flat and one dimensional. And then I was like,
wait a minute, I'm not I'm not the hero or
like the thing to like over like the person that
overcomes the obstacles. I am the obstacle. What what is this?
Am I being frenched or something?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And that sounds very one dimensional too, right, So so
all of these were they all the obviously I'm gonna
guess that all of these were supporting characters in some way,
shape or.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Form or not.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
Technically yes, and technically no. A lot of them were
like daughter of the love interest, or like autistic niece
of the love interest, or just like very bare bones.
I don't know how to describe it other than that,
but like sure, like for some of them, like they
tried adding more, but like the hard part about writing
character that is a bit more on the spectrum is like,
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because there there's one trope where like you like that
character throws away like their nerd evergency, like their autism
and dire like moments in Dire Peril, which is unfortunately
the opposite because in like one scene which was like
they're shooting at her with bullets, like and and the
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dad yells like fire escape and she's like, what are
you talking about? There's no fire. You don't go out
the fire escape but there's no fire.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, And he.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
Yells at her, and she goes, if that was my sister,
she would be yelling at like it would turn into
an argument of why are you yelling at me? And
outlive God trying to get the last word in that
is unfortunately the reality that's past.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Bella Zoey Martinez is our guest. She wrote, then started,
and uh, once more like rain Man, why that I mean,
why the title, I mean the thing with rain Man
that that harkens back to the Academy Award winning performance.
Speaker 8 (08:09):
It was actually very intentional. Without that film, the services
for kids on the spectrum that like were able to
serve like an entire industry was created because of that film.
Like if like I didn't get services when I was
a kid, I would not be here. So that was
kind of like paying like it created an entire like
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industry of like kids, like people trying to help people
on the spectrum get to like where they can be
now like and actually succeed in life. And now that
that that that it's been like years since that film
came out, like I can actually like do the things
that I wouldn't be able to do without like those
services actually being created or existing.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Wow, I just said I didn't realize that that that
film literally changed the world.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
That's so it really did. So people care about what
they see and it really does show.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, Bella Zoey Martinez is joining us.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
She she wrote the film once More like rand Man
starred in it as well, and she she mentioned the
director Suan is it Pan?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Is that how you say your name? What is it? Pan?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Janne?
Speaker 8 (09:19):
Pan?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Okay? All right, very good?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Have you guys since this film was released and you've
won like all of the jury awards and everything else,
all the grand prizes at all the film festivals you've
entered in.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I mean, what's next? Are you? Are you getting are
you getting a distribution offers?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Uh? Are you all of a sudden a hot commodity
in Hollywood?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Is everyone looking for you to be the next to
the next bright spot that's going to change the world
for well.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
We do have a feature script in the works for
this particular film. It's quite it's quite the story for that, Okay,
I haven't. We started our Offscar qualifying run for the
twenty twenty six Oscars for the short as well, And
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that's quite amazing. And it was my mind because I
don't think little Bella would even believe that I'd be
in a film like this, because like I just started
out making videos just for myself and making stories for
myself and didn't realize until later and like just after
using acting as a way to cope with bullying that wait,
you can get paid for this, and then later just
(10:26):
here now at an adult, like it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So, Belly, you've made mentioned that you filmed this when
you were eighteen. You just turned twenty, Happy birthday. You
filmed it when you were eighteen? How old were you
when you wrote this?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
When you started writing, I.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
Started writing it like I had the idea of it
when I was around sixteen. Wow, it and it took
it took like two years of development before we recorded it,
and like screen the entire thing, like the entire it
was a one location shoot, like the Palace Theater, like
like every shot that you see, like it's one part
(11:04):
of a different like segment of the entire Palace Theater,
like downtown Los Angeless. The people at the Palace Theater
are very kind, by the way, like we loved it
better than like we like came there, Like.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
They're very nice.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
To love them all right, So do we have you
say you're working on the feature, so you're you're taking
this and you're expanding it basically you're taking the short
much it grows out.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Wow, I'm fascinated by this. Will you please let us
know how that goes along and then what we can do,
you know, as you as you're getting you know, trying
to get that oscar buzz going, because this sounds amazing,
I'm really excited for you.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
It's almostly the first time it's ever been from a
truly like autistic point of view, because it's always been
from the omnission point of view or like a parent's
point of view, but never from the kids point of view.
It's something that I've noticed in media in general, like
it's never from their point of view, Like I know
there were some attempts, but it wasn't like truly from
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their point of view, but I wanted to change that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It sounds like you're on the right path because the
way you describe the other characters as being, you know,
almost the burden for the main character, or the thing
that allows the main character to develop, whereas you know,
the autistic individual is the is the one dimensional obstacle.
That's that's so spot on, really great stuff. I love
your insight, I love your mind. Thank you so much
(12:27):
for sharing it with us. Please keep us up on
what we can do to help with that, oscar By
appreciate it. Bello, Zoe Martinez our guest here. We'll continue
in just a few moments. Kayla, this is your turn.
Now there's no business like.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Nailed it. Boy, this is going swimmingly.
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There's no business like solve business. God, we got it.
Oh that was touching.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Go there, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Uh Brigita, yes, sir, as you listened to the last
you know, twenty minutes of this show. I mean, were
you cringing the whole time? I mean, once we got
Bella on the air, I thought she was fantastic. But
I mean there's this part where you must have been
just watching what appeared to be a.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Train wreck in slow motion.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
I have no confident you just couldn't.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You couldn't turn away, right, It was like watching a
NASCAR crash, like, oh my.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Gosh, it's horrible. I'm sure somebody's not coming out of
that one. But let's watch it again in slow mo.
Speaker 9 (13:33):
Truth be told. I was working on other stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Oh okay, Well.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
That's how I felt, Chris, that was my feeling to
a t.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Well, I'm just glad you were paying attention more or less.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Meanwhile, Brigitta was just not that's great, unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
I was having my own crash in here.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Hey, so I saw that Jerry Adler died and Brigida,
did you mention this?
Speaker 10 (13:56):
I was I took a little I just got here.
I have not, but it is in some of my
casts in the.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Okay, yeah, so Jerry Adler, if you're unfamiliar, actor who
was in Sopranos, known for that, he's in the Good Wife.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
He's a character actor. If you saw his face, you go, oh,
I know him.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I got I didn't realize that he didn't start acting
until he was what's sixty two or something.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
Yeah, that's right, that's why incredible.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
That gives me hope. Maybe my dreams aren't dead.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Maybe one day, oh Kila, call Bella back and see
if she wants me in her feature film.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I could just be a bad guy.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
You are a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Type casting perfect, do it? I love it.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Jimmy Kimmel says there's no way that Stephen Colbert was
losing forty million dollars a year. I tend to believe
what Kimmel is saying. I don't know how they could
possibly be losing forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
What I think is happening because.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Remember see like, oh yeah, we were losing forty million
dollars a year, and I had people are like, oh, yes,
they definitely.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I mean that that costs so much to put I
just don't think it does.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I don't think you're losing forty million dollars a year.
And Kimmel said, I want to say that the idea
of Stephen Colbert show losing forty million dollars years beyond nonsensical.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
He was talking with variety.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
These alleged insiders who supposedly analyze the budgets of the shows.
I don't know who they are, but I do know
they don't know what they're talking about. According to Kimmel,
the financial loss reports seem only to be focused on
advertising revenue and have completely forgotten about affiliate fees, which
number in the hundreds of millions, probably in total billions,
and you must allocate a certain percentage of those fees
(15:43):
to late night shows. It's really, it really is surprising
how little the media seems to know about how the
media works. There's just not a snowballs chance in hell
that that's anywhere near accurate. Even that all you need
to know suddenly he's losing forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Question mark. I agree. So I think what's.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Happening is AD revenue is down, So AD revenue is down,
and they they blame the host, they blame the show.
Let me tell you how this goes. It's from just
post position, okay, and I'm I don't have a dog
in the fight for Colbert Kimmel fallon, no dog.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
In that fight.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
But let me tell you what goes on behind the scenes.
If the show is going really well and sales is
out there selling it, then management says, great job. You know,
if the ratings are up, then you get a bonus.
That's great. But when it comes to the annual meeting,
(16:43):
they're all like, let's give a run of a plus
to sales. Look at the incredible job they did. Look
at how much is sales sold this year?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Look at that. It's just really great job by sales.
Unbelievable sales. Wow, salespeople are really great. We should hire
more of them.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Also, the ones that are already in management positions, promote
them to management positions even higher up. Let's give him
a raise. Sales, everybody sales. But then when sales are down, oh, man,
I'll tell you what that Merril show that it's just
a real dud. Just couldn't sell it, you know, could
not sell that show. Who man, the ratings were up. Yeah,
(17:19):
ratings are up, but I mean we couldn't sell it though,
so I mean it's just it doesn't have the kind
of appeal that we really need to be able to
sell to our audience. So really, I mean, what are
we gonna do? You know, had to get rid of him.
And I've been on both sides to that, at the
same radio station, not this one. At the same radio
station I have been, Kayla. I wish you could have
seen it on the inside out. It was the most
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disturbing thing in the world. On one minute, I'm top five,
I'm raking bonuses. I'm feeling good by the way, Kayla.
I always share bonuses with everybody that's in the that's
on the crew, so I would get a bonus. And
then I'm coming in with I'm like Santa Cris coming
in with the little gift cards for everybody else. It's
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news producers, uh, tech directors, all everybody is part of it.
Boom boom boom. I'm just tossing it out.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Wow, I've gotten nothing in the past three years.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
That's right, because Savadra doesn't take care of you. He
gives you doggy bag to the leftovers that he spit up.
But I take care of you. It's just that we
don't have a contract with bonuses, right, So when things
are going well, they patch it on the back, and
then they reward sales and sales like, we're going to
do a sales contest and the winner is going to
(18:32):
get a weekend Tahoe, and you go, cool, Can we
do a programming contest? Whoever's got the highest ratings gets
a weekend in Tahoe.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
They're like, no, no, no, no, no, go back to your studio.
Shut up.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And then when things go badly and this happened to
me at a radio station, everybody's numbers were down. Everybody's
numbers were down, which means there was an audience changeover.
But I was on a radio station that had Rush
Limbaugh at the time is before he died, obviously, and
I was I was doing better than Rush.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I was.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
The whole station was down, but I had the best ratings,
which I was not proud of. I mean, I was
glad that I had the best ratings. I thought that
would take some pressure off my back, but instead they said, nah,
you're not really fitting the mold, so you know, we
can't really sell you even though your ratings are better
than everybody else is we can't really sell you the
way that we want to, so we're not going to
renew the contract, and so yeah, it hurt. So I
(19:23):
think that's what's going on with Cold Beert is they go, hey, Colbert,
your numbers are I mean, they're better than the other
network guys, but you know, we really can't sell you.
Plus you know, we got the Sky Dance merger, and
so we're just gonna tell everybody that we can't sell
it and then we're gonna walk away.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I think that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I do. I don't think this. Everybody wants to go
go go broke. I'm just not buying into that stuff.
Just don't buy into it. By the way you said,
I think tomorrow was gonna announce it. I think Stern
signed a new contract. That guy had been saying for
years that he was going to retire, and then it
sounded like he was not gonna redo his contract or
that serious was gonna, you know, make him take a
(20:03):
big Bay cut, and everybody's like, that's right, go go broke.
Now it sounds like he's gonna sign another contract, and
I think that's just purely out of spite, purely out
of spite. Just okay, you think I'm gonna get fired. Okay,
well now I'm not gonna get fired. I'm gonna be
a seventy one year old man not getting fired. I
think that's what he's saying.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I'm not mad at it. That's a statement.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Kinda I kind of felt bad for the guy because
I now I think he listen, if I'm seventy one,
I want to retire.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Taylor, Oh yeah, I'm gonna lay down now.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I want you to just be like, hey, reminder, old man.
And by that time, you'll you know, you'll have gray hair,
your boobs will be down on your knees. It's just
gonna be a it's gonna be a sad situation. But
I will still be older than you and you'll be
You'll have to go listen to full Timer.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Remember how you wanted to retire, get get gone.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
I can do that. I can do that responsibility.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That's what I need.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yeah, you're almost there too. It's like, what do you
have like another two weeks or so.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
It's close. It's close.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
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The Great Doctor Wendy Walsh joins us. About fifteen minutes chat.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Chris Merril KFI AM six forty, more stimulating conk. I
got a couple of doctor Wendy questions that are specific
to her, and we'll probably discuss with her a little
bit about this right now.
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Speaker 3 (21:45):
I didn't think that was going to be possible. But
somehow gen Z is like, no, you know what, we
don't need sex.
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Now. How did they end up doing it?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
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Them with same day delivery. I guess everything is online now. Yeah.
If you're a boomer and you're looking for.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
A mate, as doctor Wendy would say, whether that's a
hookup or somebody to be with, you go out, you
go meet people, go do things right. You get to
know somebody and then you know, one thing leads to another.
Gen X we do it, Millennials, We'll do a little online,
a little in person, gen Z. They treat that Tinder
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like it's an Amazon cart. Just put this one over here,
put that one over there.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
Aren't they just too poor though, to like go out
and date and go out and drink.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Isn't that the thing?
Speaker 10 (22:47):
Whether they're not drinking and they're not going out. A
lot of them say that they're just not dating because
they literally can't afford to. That is a really great
pay live at home with mom and dad? Still, yes?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Or are they going to bring a date home?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I got two gen zs, both of them at home.
I got one millennial. He is the only one who's out.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
And did they bring women home? Probably not?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Uh no, No, Well my daughter brings dudes home and
I hate it. I'm not kidding. I just hate it.
And I'm like, sweetheart, I go make him work for
it a little bit, don't because now what, he didn't
need to come back here. He knows the milk is free.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
He didn't need to do that.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Oh, don't do that stuff, survey found, Brigida to your
point in fact, that did you do a video on
this as well?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
That gen Z's not.
Speaker 9 (23:38):
Basically always talking about these topics.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, if you're not following Creshida's Instagram, you should. Fifty
four of gen Z women and fifty three percent of
gen Z men say that on a monthly basis they
spend a total of zero dollars on dates. I still
contend that technology has something to do with this. Even
reporting on this technology has ruined here. I went looking
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for audio to supplement the story to talk about, and
I found a place called buzz Now USA.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
They used AI to tell this story.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
Imagine an entire generation in America saying dating, no thanks.
Half of general Z is spending zero dollars a month
on romance.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
First of all, is that general Z. General Z sounds
like Russian invaders in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
That's not it. But then zero dollars on romance.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
This AI spent zero dollars on the personality augmentation upgrade.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
That's rhino dates.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That's right, No dates, that's so bad.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Oh, that's rhino dates, No dinners, no roses. Welcome to
the Romance Recession introduction. In today's video, we're diving into
one of the strangest trends shaping America right now. Love once,
the harpy of culture, is being replaced by financial caution
and career hustle.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Here's where I'm gonna I'm gonna diverge a little bit
from what you said, Burshida, because while we may not
be going to the movies, or we're not gonna go bowling,
we don't have the extra money to do whatever the
whatever the activity is. There are free dates, right, there's
there's free dates. You're gonna buy groceries anyway, you can
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go grocery shopping together as a date. You can learn
a lot more from somebody when you go grocery shopping
with them than you can by.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Going to the movies with them.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I would argue grocery shopping is a far better date
for determining whether or not the relationship has legs.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
But women don't want to go home with men that
they don't know.
Speaker 10 (25:40):
So if you go to the groceries where they're like,
come over, I'll cook you dinner, women are like, that's
so sketchy.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
All right, well that's first dates, right, but you're just
not gonna get to that at all.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Right, sounds like they're sounds like they're not even gonna
get to that.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Okay, all right again, gen Z has ruined sex ago
evidently coffee is too expensive for a first date. Now
you can't even do that.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Huh that's the truth. Really.
Speaker 11 (26:09):
Yeah, if you want to go out on a date
with somebody, usually first dates that are appropriating, you know,
maybe go grab lunch or a coffee. Yeah, people actually
have to like almost take out a second mortgage if
they want to do that nowadays.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Uh, it's bad.
Speaker 11 (26:25):
I say, you know what, maybe we can go home,
or like I can brew some coffee at home and
bring it over and even that sketch because they're gonna
think that I put something in the coffee.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Oh yeah, never, I would tell my daughter don't accept
any drinks from him.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
But I could see, Hey there's this cute little coffee shop.
Let's go get coffee and then we'll go walk at
the nearby park or something, right, just something to get
to know somebody.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
The cuter it is, the more expensive it is. Just
saying that can't be true. Oh yeah, just to go
for a walk. Oh you say, coffee in a walk.
If you don't want to go for a walk, then
you know you might get away with it. Better be
nic scenery though, I hear you on this Chris.
Speaker 10 (27:04):
But also I see that gen Z doesn't even want
to date someone if they don't make more than two
hundred thousand dollars a year, So they have unrealistic expectations,
like they don't want to go on free dates. Oh
that's interesting, even if they're poor and they gets too
low effort. But you know, they have AI boyfriends and girlfriends,
so that's fine.
Speaker 11 (27:23):
That's the thing. Their emotional needs are getting met in
other ways.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Now, this is fascinating because Sam is a therapist. For
those that didn't hear it earlier, Sam is a therapist.
Are you running into this where people are feeling like
they've got emotional like that's all being done.
Speaker 11 (27:36):
I haven't had any new clients or anybody who are
bringing up like relationships with AI, but I've been seeing
so many stories in the news of people like generations
beyond us. It's going to become more and more normalized.
I think thirty I saw a study that said something
like thirty percent of gen z are like they're looking
(27:57):
at AI relationships as viable options, and that percentage is
only gonna go up because more and more people growing
up are gonna have that as already built in option.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Part of the fun of a relationship is not getting
along sometimes. I mean, if AI is only giving me
what I want from it all the time, then how
is that making me a better person. That's the most
narcissistic relationship there is. That's that's a that's that's I
(28:30):
don't know. I like to be challenged. My wife and
I argue all the time, and not my I don't
say we argue all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
That makes some bad.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
My wife and I will disagree on things. She'll tell
me to shut up, you don't know what you're talking about.
A I would say, Okay, that's right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I can't. I can't with that.
Speaker 11 (28:46):
AI is getting way more developed. There is a guy
out there the news. The story's been in the news.
His what He has a wife and a kid, and
he proposed to AI and the AI said yes. Now
the AI. One of these stories said that they he
got into an argument with the AI and the AI
forgot he existed for twenty four hours.
Speaker 9 (29:11):
Cold shoulder.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That's funny, it's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Cuts you off, that's next level, you know who. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
My wife would hate that.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
When when my wife and I were dating, we got
a new argument, she gave me the silent treatment, and
I just kind of learned.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
What she didn't know is that my mother is the
king of the silent treatment. My mother once.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Got uh she got a cold shoulder from somebody at
work one time, and my mother refused to talk to
this person for a year, like they worked like in
neighboring cubicles. My mother would not acknowledge her existence for
a full year. And they were friends prior to whatever
this episode was. This one day that this other woman
was having a bad day. So when my wife gives
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me the cold shulder, I'm like, okay, I guess this
is how we do it. So then now I sadly
will turn passive aggressive because obviously I learned that from
my mother, and it dress my wife nuts.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I can't even imagine if AI.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Just ignored her for a while, she would my wife
would throw the computer right out the window.
Speaker 12 (30:06):
Doctor Wendy says, that's a form of just like I
don't know, abuse.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Yeah, Like that's no.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I'm not saying I'm good. I'm not proud of it.
I'm just telling you that's my coping mechanism.
Speaker 9 (30:18):
Stay toxic.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Well not wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
It's not that I'm necessarily being passive aggressive, she says,
he's trying to be passive aggressive. What I'm doing is avoidance, right,
So sometimes I can be passive aggressive. My wife is
the one who actually will employ it as passive aggression.
I'm more of avoidance. I don't want to fight with you.
I don't want to argue. And if I start talking
to you're gonna start yelling at me, and I don't
want to deal with that, so I'm just gonna go away.
(30:43):
And then she's like, you're doing this to hurt me,
and I'm like, no, I'm doing this because I don't
want to be hurt. See yeah, And I'm not telling
you it's emotionally mature. I'm not telling you it's good.
This is one of the things that we've talked about
with therapists before and saying how do we get better
at communicating so that we don't go through this because
it doesn't doesn't go well, but it is what I do.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Maybe we'll have to hire sam Sex to say.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
M oh, I thought he was putting a little cap
on his ar.
Speaker 11 (31:16):
I'm sorry, I have to push the button I was
trying to push my mic button on.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
And pushed the front. I thought it was like sex,
doctor Sam. And then yeah, yeah, all right, all right,
we'll get ready to push that button again. Is it
marrying up or is it gold digging? They call it hypergamy.
That's next, Chris Merrill can if I am six forty,
we live everywhere on the iHeart.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Radio, start looking forward to that.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Stinky you think that Zelmans would have like a stink
eye means through something of the sort. Give us the
next incarnation, Chris Merril, ca, if I am six forty,
more stimulating talk. The great doctor Wendy Wallash coming up
here at seven o'clock because she just got called back
for an interview that she has to uh go.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Try to set up again, So we will make do
without her.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
But I wanted to invite Bragia back in because Bragina
made mention of something a moment ago when we were
talking about gen Z's.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I say, gen Z is not as interested in dating.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
She says they can't afford it, and then she said
gen zs they only want to date people that make
more than two hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 11 (32:20):
You kill me, n say she you go digs and
window broke nice say she.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You go dig.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It feels to me Bragida like it is lacking self awareness.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
Well, how they going to get out of their mom's
house if they don't have a sugarman or sugar woman
to get them out?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Of course, the catch twenty two on that is that
if all of them are waiting for someone else to
rescue them, then everyone's just bobbing around the iceberg waiting
for somebody else to show.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Up with a lifeboat. Well.
Speaker 10 (32:51):
I also see hilarious articles that are like gen z
is uh, you know dating boomers, like young women are
dating boomers.
Speaker 9 (32:59):
I'm like, well, that's always happened.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, I was gonna say, is there a new website
for that? It's weird? What is it?
Speaker 11 (33:07):
I think it's sugar daddy dot com.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Oh, I don't have enough for that.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I can't afford the cover charge to get onto sugar
daddy dot com. Just my wife can't afford the cover
charge to get on sugar Mama dot com either, So
that's fine with me.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Whatever. I guess we're just stuck with each other. Is it?
Are you marrying up? Or are you gold digging?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
They're calling it hypergamy uh and that is this idea
that you are marrying for not just love, but you
are marrying for let's call it security.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah. Security.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
People are looking for hypergamous relationships, sometimes referred to as
marrying up this from USA today, creating long term or
romantic relationship with somebody who has a higher status in
a certain way or value.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Milania.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Hypergamus relationship is not only about economic status, he said.
A person may want to marry it for social, spiritual, intellectual,
or creative reasons too. This brigida does not seem new either.
I'd like to point to the Prince of England, Prince
of Wales and his wife. Remember it was a big
deal that Kate Middleton, wasn't She wasn't the part of
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the what.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
Do you call it, the the upper class?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
No, what the aristocracy? Aristocracy? Thank you, that's the word,
doctor Sam. Thank you Nikki who grew up in a
British penal colony Island. We appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Jill Day You like I've said, I'd rather be a
convict than a puritan. I mean, I'm not wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Okay, so this doesn't seem all that new to me either,
How then, hm hm, how then does it all work
out if everyone is trying to marry up for money
or status and they don't have it to start with
landed gentry, that was the one I was looking for.
Aristocracy also works, though, I A. I also wonder this
(35:01):
and Brigs, you know you're closer to it than I am,
being that you're an actual journalist.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
How much of this is clickbait?
Speaker 10 (35:08):
I think a lot of it is clickbait. I mean,
don't we all want to marry somebody's super rich. It's
not like a new thing. I just I feel like
they're just trying to make something out of it. The
truth is gen Z they do the gen Z stare
because they're emotionally not able to connect because they spent
so much time online.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I agree with that. That's an issue that we're having
with my daughter. She hears somebody she doesn't like and
she just stares at you.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Huh. It drives me nuts.
Speaker 9 (35:31):
They're just getting us ready for our future interacting with robots.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
And I guess so imagine if you're imagine if the
nurse at your nursing home just gives you that stare.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
I got the gen Z stair recently, and I was
offended until I figured out what it was, and I
was like, oh, it's not me, okay, And I.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Still don't know how to communicate.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
I didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
They just just eyeballs. You just it's just dead in
the eyes. That's how my daughters.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
They looked at me like they hated me.
Speaker 10 (35:59):
But then I realized they just hated their job, and
I could I could relate to times in my life
where that was true.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
They used to give us gen xers that kind of
grief too, Like it's every generation, and I.
Speaker 9 (36:11):
Called them out. Next time it happens, we'll be oh,
my god, you're doing the thing. You're doing the thing.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Oh okay, that'll be funny. Would that be like the
millennial or the gen X call out?
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (36:23):
I don't know, is that a thing?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It is if we start it?
Speaker 9 (36:27):
Okay, cool?
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Just every time we see a gen Z or we
just call them out for that stuff. I just think
every generation picks on the youngest generation, of course, and
it's just gen Z's turn. I mean Millennials for the
It was right up until about twenty twenty that it
was the millennials were the problem.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Oh millennials, Millennials, Oh, millennials, are wearing.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
We're ruining the workplace all millennials, and boy, I remember
growing up Generation X, Generation next, we were we were
just ruining everything. There was no hope for the future
of America. And now it's Gen Z and everybody's going
to be fine. But I think a lot of these
stories are all about yeah, they are. They are because
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the one thing is that every generation has its own
challenges and they just have to figure it out and
overcome it.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
What does what does not find look like?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Do we turn into a dystopian state now.
Speaker 12 (37:13):
To communicate and connect with each other and just connect
and communicate with robots only and loose human touch.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
That's only bad based on your perspective.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
It's not. It's not. It's evolution.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Okay, let me Okay, So my grandparents would be very
dismayed that I don't read very often.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I read every day. Now, wait a.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Minute, I read a lot. I just don't sit down
with a book at the end of the night. I
don't crack open a book very often. But I read constantly.
I'm constantly reading the news mostly right, or I'm reading
stats on something, or I'm reading whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I am reading constantly.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
windows visible, and my two monitors. Right now, I'm reading
all of it. It's all open to different things. But
I don't sit down and read Hemingway, which, by the way,
I think the last book I read was Hemingway, wonderful writer.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I just don't do it a whole lot. My grandparents
would be appalled all this generation. They're terre they don't
even read anymore.
Speaker 11 (38:19):
No, but I'm.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Interacting with people and stories online, and while I don't
have the newspaper in front of me, I don't think
that I'm less well adjusted. I don't think I'm less intellectual.
But they would be appalled because their perspective is different. Kayla,
you're a book worm and I just ruined everything for you.
You're like, yeah, I'm with your grandparents.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
You need to read your books.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
You're the worst, all right, you know what. That's enough, Brageta,
thank you for rescuing the last half hour this show.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
You're welcome, because honestly, Kayla was crapped for the first
two and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
It was really hard.
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Speaker 1 (00:18):
I am racing. I know what's going on, Tayla. I'm
happy to listen to you and I can respond. You
hear that, Kayla?
Speaker 5 (00:25):
Yeah, I'm brown on his nose, Sir, better than me?
That was aggressive?
Speaker 1 (00:30):
Wow, teacher's pet over there. You know what you have?
He was listening to the show. You're working on killing me?
Speaker 6 (00:39):
Chris. I can't wait to hear you in the moke
Kelly show tomorrow. Mark, you guys are crazy. I want
to bet with my wife because I toltal. It would
take three to five seconds for you and Mark to
say something crazy. You guys talked about Jimmy Carter and
his uh blown a dark urine?
Speaker 5 (00:52):
Did we Jimmy Carter has blowing the dark urine?
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Maybe?
Speaker 6 (00:57):
Hey, while you're there, can you ask if why don't
moke Kelly take on a Kareem abdul jabanas Bar. I'll
pay fifty bucks on that the old versus the bold.
Speaker 3 (01:05):
All right, in from O Kelly this week, so we'll
find out. Uh did you prime our guests?
Speaker 5 (01:11):
Kayla?
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Okay, so she's ready to go here? Oh yeah, very good.
Speaker 3 (01:16):
Please welcome to the program, actress, writer, producer, anything else
you want to throw in her at the end of Bella,
Zoey Martinez, there's no business like.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Bella.
Speaker 5 (01:29):
Remember, there's no business like Wow.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
All right, Kayla, that one.
Speaker 5 (01:39):
Listen. I'm blaming I'm blaming Nikki and Sam right now.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Yeah, I get that. Guys, do we have.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
I had everything set up?
Speaker 1 (01:47):
Oh my yeah, I know this is great. This is
going over really well. I love this Bella. Are you there?
Can you hear me? Now? Can you hear me? Now? Hey? Sam,
will you just let me know it's down my ear.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
When you when she's good? Okay, Cala, let's continue to
tell me you Bella on. Okay, I'm feeling I'm feeling
wonderful about the way this is going right now, Uh quick,
heads up here, really sad news and in fact, Brigitta,
I don't know if you talked about this, but Jerry
Adler passed away.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
I know that we've mentioned this in the news a
few times tonight. I don't know if it was in
your cast. Hello, who is this? Sorry line?
Speaker 7 (02:28):
What?
Speaker 8 (02:28):
Dad? Can you hear me?
Speaker 1 (02:30):
I can? Is this?
Speaker 4 (02:31):
Bela?
Speaker 1 (02:32):
Yes, Bella, Zilly Martinez.
Speaker 4 (02:34):
There's no business like business?
Speaker 1 (02:37):
All right? There? There she did?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Thank you, Balla.
Speaker 1 (02:39):
All right, listen, Bella, here's what I think happened. Bella.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
We're gonna blame Sam. So if you want to say, Sam,
shame on you. I'm down with that same.
Speaker 8 (02:49):
Shame on you.
Speaker 1 (02:50):
Shame Sam.
Speaker 8 (02:51):
I don't know. I don't know what happened, but that was.
That was a panic of a minute.
Speaker 3 (02:55):
Right because I didn't have anything else plan for this segment, so,
you know, brutal for all of us.
Speaker 8 (03:01):
But I was ready to stay a bit because I
was and I'm like, and then I cut me off.
I'm like, you're very very real.
Speaker 1 (03:15):
Yes, it was, You're great. Hey, talk to me a
little bit because I was.
Speaker 3 (03:19):
I saw the press release on your film, and I
apologize because I had not seen the short.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
But then all of a sudden, I took a look
at all the awards you won.
Speaker 3 (03:26):
Holy cow, I mean you walked away with all the
jury awards and prizes from just about every film festival
you wentered. The film was once more like rain Man,
So it seems to be not necessarily autobiographical, but but
very paris.
Speaker 8 (03:46):
It's not really a documentary. It's loosely based off real
auditions that I have gone to or like some that.
But but it's it's not a documentary. It's just a
story told by somebody who happens to be on the spectrum,
which is me and of the cast and crew were
like some forum of nerday virsions as well, and we
(04:07):
ended earlier every day.
Speaker 7 (04:08):
So that was awesome.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
I actually did break I think I actually broke Hollywood.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
Oh it was your fault, I see now I don't know. Yeah,
So how did you end up with Sam?
Speaker 8 (04:20):
Blame Sam like.
Speaker 1 (04:21):
You said, but yeah, we're blaming Sam and all of it.
Speaker 3 (04:24):
How did you end up with forty percent of the
cast and crew that were neurodiversion?
Speaker 1 (04:28):
Is that something that you set out to do?
Speaker 3 (04:30):
Did you hire people with whom you had previous working
relationships or was it one of those things that the
more you started discussing, you know, the film and the content,
you found out, Wow, a lot of people around us
have these experiences.
Speaker 8 (04:41):
Okay, we started mainly like discussing, like my parents were
the main producers on my short film, and like we
were basically able to just talk about this film with
a lot of people that we knew and just like
brought in connections from there because we were filming this
particular short during the writer strike in twenty twenty three,
(05:02):
and we had that's not the paperwork, so we were
like technically the only film somewhat getting paid for our
effort year. But like we all got like paid these
exact same amounts. Oh wow, the man that this was
her first directing job, and she did absolutely phenomenal and
we would not have been like seen the funnel result
(05:25):
without her.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
She was amazing one hundred percent. Again.
Speaker 3 (05:29):
The film once More Like rain Man follows this fourteen
year old named Zoe as she's going through a number
of auditions for autistic roles. And you were told or
whether I say, your character was told not autistic enough?
Is that something that you and your By the way,
you're not fourteen, you're how old are you?
Speaker 8 (05:48):
I turned twenty this month. Actually when I was filming,
I was actually like around eighteen.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Okay, all right, so not not too far off? Have
you actually gone to auditions where somebody said to you
that you're not autistic enough.
Speaker 8 (06:02):
Yes, actually I've actually been. Like a lot of them
are based off real scripts that I've actually gotten, but
like they were never met with like any ill intent.
Like when it came to like doing breakdowns for normal characters,
I had thoughts feeling complex motivation, but when I got
like breakdowns for like autistic characters, they've always kind of
(06:22):
felt like flat and one dimensional. And then I was like,
wait a minute, I'm not I'm not the hero or
like the thing to like over like the person that
overcomes the obstacles. I am the obstacle. What what is this?
Am I being frenched or something?
Speaker 1 (06:39):
Yeah? Right?
Speaker 3 (06:40):
And that sounds very one dimensional too, right, So so
all of these were they all the obviously I'm gonna
guess that all of these were supporting characters in some way,
shape or.
Speaker 1 (06:48):
Form or not.
Speaker 8 (06:51):
Technically yes, and technically no. A lot of them were
like daughter of the love interest, or like autistic niece
of the love interest, or just like very bare bones.
I don't know how to describe it other than that,
but like sure, like for some of them, like they
tried adding more, but like the hard part about writing
character that is a bit more on the spectrum is like,
(07:13):
because there there's one trope where like you like that
character throws away like their nerd evergency, like their autism
and dire like moments in Dire Peril, which is unfortunately
the opposite because in like one scene which was like
they're shooting at her with bullets, like and and the
(07:35):
dad yells like fire escape and she's like, what are
you talking about? There's no fire. You don't go out
the fire escape but there's no fire.
Speaker 1 (07:41):
Yeah, And he.
Speaker 8 (07:42):
Yells at her, and she goes, if that was my sister,
she would be yelling at like it would turn into
an argument of why are you yelling at me? And
outlive God trying to get the last word in that
is unfortunately the reality that's past.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
Bella Zoey Martinez is our guest. She wrote, then started,
and uh, once more like rain Man, why that I mean,
why the title, I mean the thing with rain Man
that that harkens back to the Academy Award winning performance.
Speaker 8 (08:09):
It was actually very intentional. Without that film, the services
for kids on the spectrum that like were able to
serve like an entire industry was created because of that film.
Like if like I didn't get services when I was
a kid, I would not be here. So that was
kind of like paying like it created an entire like
(08:32):
industry of like kids, like people trying to help people
on the spectrum get to like where they can be
now like and actually succeed in life. And now that
that that that it's been like years since that film
came out, like I can actually like do the things
that I wouldn't be able to do without like those
services actually being created or existing.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
Wow, I just said I didn't realize that that that
film literally changed the world.
Speaker 8 (08:59):
That's so it really did. So people care about what
they see and it really does show.
Speaker 1 (09:06):
Yeah, Bella Zoey Martinez is joining us.
Speaker 3 (09:08):
She she wrote the film once More like rand Man
starred in it as well, and she she mentioned the
director Suan is it Pan?
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Is that how you say your name? What is it? Pan?
Speaker 4 (09:18):
Janne?
Speaker 8 (09:19):
Pan?
Speaker 1 (09:20):
Okay? All right, very good?
Speaker 3 (09:21):
Have you guys since this film was released and you've
won like all of the jury awards and everything else,
all the grand prizes at all the film festivals you've
entered in.
Speaker 1 (09:30):
I mean, what's next? Are you? Are you getting are
you getting a distribution offers?
Speaker 4 (09:34):
Are you?
Speaker 1 (09:34):
Uh? Are you all of a sudden a hot commodity
in Hollywood?
Speaker 3 (09:37):
Is everyone looking for you to be the next to
the next bright spot that's going to change the world
for well.
Speaker 8 (09:42):
We do have a feature script in the works for
this particular film. It's quite it's quite the story for that, Okay,
I haven't. We started our Offscar qualifying run for the
twenty twenty six Oscars for the short as well, And
(10:04):
that's quite amazing. And it was my mind because I
don't think little Bella would even believe that I'd be
in a film like this, because like I just started
out making videos just for myself and making stories for
myself and didn't realize until later and like just after
using acting as a way to cope with bullying that wait,
you can get paid for this, and then later just
(10:26):
here now at an adult, like it's kind of crazy.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
So, Belly, you've made mentioned that you filmed this when
you were eighteen. You just turned twenty, Happy birthday. You
filmed it when you were eighteen? How old were you
when you wrote this?
Speaker 1 (10:39):
When you started writing, I.
Speaker 8 (10:43):
Started writing it like I had the idea of it
when I was around sixteen. Wow, it and it took
it took like two years of development before we recorded it,
and like screen the entire thing, like the entire it
was a one location shoot, like the Palace Theater, like
like every shot that you see, like it's one part
(11:04):
of a different like segment of the entire Palace Theater,
like downtown Los Angeless. The people at the Palace Theater
are very kind, by the way, like we loved it
better than like we like came there, Like.
Speaker 7 (11:15):
They're very nice.
Speaker 4 (11:16):
To love them all right, So do we have you
say you're working on the feature, so you're you're taking
this and you're expanding it basically you're taking the short
much it grows out.
Speaker 3 (11:29):
Wow, I'm fascinated by this. Will you please let us
know how that goes along and then what we can do,
you know, as you as you're getting you know, trying
to get that oscar buzz going, because this sounds amazing,
I'm really excited for you.
Speaker 8 (11:41):
It's almostly the first time it's ever been from a
truly like autistic point of view, because it's always been
from the omnission point of view or like a parent's
point of view, but never from the kids point of view.
It's something that I've noticed in media in general, like
it's never from their point of view, Like I know
there were some attempts, but it wasn't like truly from
(12:04):
their point of view, but I wanted to change that.
Speaker 3 (12:07):
It sounds like you're on the right path because the
way you describe the other characters as being, you know,
almost the burden for the main character, or the thing
that allows the main character to develop, whereas you know,
the autistic individual is the is the one dimensional obstacle.
That's that's so spot on, really great stuff. I love
your insight, I love your mind. Thank you so much
(12:27):
for sharing it with us. Please keep us up on
what we can do to help with that, oscar By
appreciate it. Bello, Zoe Martinez our guest here. We'll continue
in just a few moments. Kayla, this is your turn.
Now there's no business like.
Speaker 1 (12:38):
Nailed it. Boy, this is going swimmingly.
Speaker 3 (12:40):
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Speaker 1 (12:53):
There's no business like solve business. God, we got it.
Oh that was touching.
Speaker 5 (12:59):
Go there, yeah, I know.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
Uh Brigita, yes, sir, as you listened to the last
you know, twenty minutes of this show. I mean, were
you cringing the whole time? I mean, once we got
Bella on the air, I thought she was fantastic. But
I mean there's this part where you must have been
just watching what appeared to be a.
Speaker 1 (13:18):
Train wreck in slow motion.
Speaker 9 (13:20):
I have no confident you just couldn't.
Speaker 3 (13:22):
You couldn't turn away, right, It was like watching a
NASCAR crash, like, oh my.
Speaker 1 (13:26):
Gosh, it's horrible. I'm sure somebody's not coming out of
that one. But let's watch it again in slow mo.
Speaker 9 (13:33):
Truth be told. I was working on other stuff.
Speaker 1 (13:35):
Oh okay, Well.
Speaker 5 (13:36):
That's how I felt, Chris, that was my feeling to
a t.
Speaker 1 (13:39):
Well, I'm just glad you were paying attention more or less.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Meanwhile, Brigitta was just not that's great, unbelievable, unbelievable.
Speaker 9 (13:48):
I was having my own crash in here.
Speaker 3 (13:52):
Hey, so I saw that Jerry Adler died and Brigida,
did you mention this?
Speaker 10 (13:56):
I was I took a little I just got here.
I have not, but it is in some of my
casts in the.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Okay, yeah, so Jerry Adler, if you're unfamiliar, actor who
was in Sopranos, known for that, he's in the Good Wife.
Speaker 1 (14:09):
He's a character actor. If you saw his face, you go, oh,
I know him.
Speaker 3 (14:12):
I got I didn't realize that he didn't start acting
until he was what's sixty two or something.
Speaker 9 (14:18):
Yeah, that's right, that's why incredible.
Speaker 1 (14:21):
That gives me hope. Maybe my dreams aren't dead.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Maybe one day, oh Kila, call Bella back and see
if she wants me in her feature film.
Speaker 1 (14:32):
I could just be a bad guy.
Speaker 5 (14:35):
You are a bad guy.
Speaker 1 (14:37):
Type casting perfect, do it? I love it.
Speaker 3 (14:44):
Jimmy Kimmel says there's no way that Stephen Colbert was
losing forty million dollars a year. I tend to believe
what Kimmel is saying. I don't know how they could
possibly be losing forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (14:56):
What I think is happening because.
Speaker 3 (14:59):
Remember see like, oh yeah, we were losing forty million
dollars a year, and I had people are like, oh, yes,
they definitely.
Speaker 1 (15:05):
I mean that that costs so much to put I
just don't think it does.
Speaker 3 (15:09):
I don't think you're losing forty million dollars a year.
And Kimmel said, I want to say that the idea
of Stephen Colbert show losing forty million dollars years beyond nonsensical.
Speaker 1 (15:17):
He was talking with variety.
Speaker 3 (15:21):
These alleged insiders who supposedly analyze the budgets of the shows.
I don't know who they are, but I do know
they don't know what they're talking about. According to Kimmel,
the financial loss reports seem only to be focused on
advertising revenue and have completely forgotten about affiliate fees, which
number in the hundreds of millions, probably in total billions,
and you must allocate a certain percentage of those fees
(15:43):
to late night shows. It's really, it really is surprising
how little the media seems to know about how the
media works. There's just not a snowballs chance in hell
that that's anywhere near accurate. Even that all you need
to know suddenly he's losing forty million dollars a year.
Speaker 1 (15:56):
Question mark. I agree. So I think what's.
Speaker 3 (15:59):
Happening is AD revenue is down, So AD revenue is down,
and they they blame the host, they blame the show.
Let me tell you how this goes. It's from just
post position, okay, and I'm I don't have a dog
in the fight for Colbert Kimmel fallon, no dog.
Speaker 1 (16:19):
In that fight.
Speaker 3 (16:21):
But let me tell you what goes on behind the scenes.
If the show is going really well and sales is
out there selling it, then management says, great job. You know,
if the ratings are up, then you get a bonus.
That's great. But when it comes to the annual meeting,
(16:43):
they're all like, let's give a run of a plus
to sales. Look at the incredible job they did. Look
at how much is sales sold this year?
Speaker 1 (16:48):
Look at that. It's just really great job by sales.
Unbelievable sales. Wow, salespeople are really great. We should hire
more of them.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
Also, the ones that are already in management positions, promote
them to management positions even higher up. Let's give him
a raise. Sales, everybody sales. But then when sales are down, oh, man,
I'll tell you what that Merril show that it's just
a real dud. Just couldn't sell it, you know, could
not sell that show. Who man, the ratings were up. Yeah,
(17:19):
ratings are up, but I mean we couldn't sell it though,
so I mean it's just it doesn't have the kind
of appeal that we really need to be able to
sell to our audience. So really, I mean, what are
we gonna do? You know, had to get rid of him.
And I've been on both sides to that, at the
same radio station, not this one. At the same radio
station I have been, Kayla. I wish you could have
seen it on the inside out. It was the most
(17:42):
disturbing thing in the world. On one minute, I'm top five,
I'm raking bonuses. I'm feeling good by the way, Kayla.
I always share bonuses with everybody that's in the that's
on the crew, so I would get a bonus. And
then I'm coming in with I'm like Santa Cris coming
in with the little gift cards for everybody else. It's
(18:04):
news producers, uh, tech directors, all everybody is part of it.
Boom boom boom. I'm just tossing it out.
Speaker 5 (18:09):
Wow, I've gotten nothing in the past three years.
Speaker 3 (18:12):
That's right, because Savadra doesn't take care of you. He
gives you doggy bag to the leftovers that he spit up.
But I take care of you. It's just that we
don't have a contract with bonuses, right, So when things
are going well, they patch it on the back, and
then they reward sales and sales like, we're going to
do a sales contest and the winner is going to
(18:32):
get a weekend Tahoe, and you go, cool, Can we
do a programming contest? Whoever's got the highest ratings gets
a weekend in Tahoe.
Speaker 1 (18:39):
They're like, no, no, no, no, no, go back to your studio.
Shut up.
Speaker 3 (18:44):
And then when things go badly and this happened to
me at a radio station, everybody's numbers were down. Everybody's
numbers were down, which means there was an audience changeover.
But I was on a radio station that had Rush
Limbaugh at the time is before he died, obviously, and
I was I was doing better than Rush.
Speaker 1 (19:00):
I was.
Speaker 3 (19:01):
The whole station was down, but I had the best ratings,
which I was not proud of. I mean, I was
glad that I had the best ratings. I thought that
would take some pressure off my back, but instead they said, nah,
you're not really fitting the mold, so you know, we
can't really sell you even though your ratings are better
than everybody else is we can't really sell you the
way that we want to, so we're not going to
renew the contract, and so yeah, it hurt. So I
(19:23):
think that's what's going on with Cold Beert is they go, hey, Colbert,
your numbers are I mean, they're better than the other
network guys, but you know, we really can't sell you.
Plus you know, we got the Sky Dance merger, and
so we're just gonna tell everybody that we can't sell
it and then we're gonna walk away.
Speaker 1 (19:39):
I think that's what happened.
Speaker 3 (19:41):
I do. I don't think this. Everybody wants to go
go go broke. I'm just not buying into that stuff.
Just don't buy into it. By the way you said,
I think tomorrow was gonna announce it. I think Stern
signed a new contract. That guy had been saying for
years that he was going to retire, and then it
sounded like he was not gonna redo his contract or
that serious was gonna, you know, make him take a
(20:03):
big Bay cut, and everybody's like, that's right, go go broke.
Now it sounds like he's gonna sign another contract, and
I think that's just purely out of spite, purely out
of spite. Just okay, you think I'm gonna get fired. Okay,
well now I'm not gonna get fired. I'm gonna be
a seventy one year old man not getting fired. I
think that's what he's saying.
Speaker 5 (20:20):
I'm not mad at it. That's a statement.
Speaker 3 (20:22):
Kinda I kind of felt bad for the guy because
I now I think he listen, if I'm seventy one,
I want to retire.
Speaker 5 (20:30):
Taylor, Oh yeah, I'm gonna lay down now.
Speaker 3 (20:32):
I want you to just be like, hey, reminder, old man.
And by that time, you'll you know, you'll have gray hair,
your boobs will be down on your knees. It's just
gonna be a it's gonna be a sad situation. But
I will still be older than you and you'll be
You'll have to go listen to full Timer.
Speaker 1 (20:46):
Remember how you wanted to retire, get get gone.
Speaker 5 (20:50):
I can do that. I can do that responsibility.
Speaker 1 (20:52):
That's what I need.
Speaker 5 (20:53):
Yeah, you're almost there too. It's like, what do you
have like another two weeks or so.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
It's close. It's close.
Speaker 3 (20:59):
America is soughring. Don't worry about a recession. We're having
a sex session. That's next, Chris merrilf I AM six forty.
We're live everywhere on the iHeartRadio. You're listening to Bill
Handle on demand from KFI AM six forty.
Speaker 1 (21:15):
The Great Doctor Wendy Walsh joins us. About fifteen minutes chat.
Speaker 3 (21:20):
Chris Merril KFI AM six forty, more stimulating conk. I
got a couple of doctor Wendy questions that are specific
to her, and we'll probably discuss with her a little
bit about this right now.
Speaker 1 (21:32):
I didn't realize it. Gen Z has figured out how
to ruin doing it so way to go.
Speaker 3 (21:45):
I didn't think that was going to be possible. But
somehow gen Z is like, no, you know what, we
don't need sex.
Speaker 1 (21:56):
Now. How did they end up doing it?
Speaker 3 (21:59):
Mostly because they just expect everything to come to.
Speaker 1 (22:04):
Them with same day delivery. I guess everything is online now. Yeah.
If you're a boomer and you're looking for.
Speaker 3 (22:16):
A mate, as doctor Wendy would say, whether that's a
hookup or somebody to be with, you go out, you
go meet people, go do things right. You get to
know somebody and then you know, one thing leads to another.
Gen X we do it, Millennials, We'll do a little online,
a little in person, gen Z. They treat that Tinder
(22:38):
like it's an Amazon cart. Just put this one over here,
put that one over there.
Speaker 10 (22:42):
Aren't they just too poor though, to like go out
and date and go out and drink.
Speaker 9 (22:47):
Isn't that the thing?
Speaker 10 (22:47):
Whether they're not drinking and they're not going out. A
lot of them say that they're just not dating because
they literally can't afford to. That is a really great
pay live at home with mom and dad? Still, yes?
Speaker 1 (22:57):
Yes?
Speaker 9 (22:58):
Or are they going to bring a date home?
Speaker 3 (23:00):
I got two gen zs, both of them at home.
I got one millennial. He is the only one who's out.
Speaker 1 (23:04):
Yeah.
Speaker 9 (23:05):
And did they bring women home? Probably not?
Speaker 3 (23:07):
Uh no, No, Well my daughter brings dudes home and
I hate it. I'm not kidding. I just hate it.
And I'm like, sweetheart, I go make him work for
it a little bit, don't because now what, he didn't
need to come back here. He knows the milk is free.
Speaker 1 (23:28):
He didn't need to do that.
Speaker 3 (23:30):
Oh, don't do that stuff, survey found, Brigida to your
point in fact, that did you do a video on
this as well?
Speaker 1 (23:37):
That gen Z's not.
Speaker 9 (23:38):
Basically always talking about these topics.
Speaker 3 (23:40):
Yeah, if you're not following Creshida's Instagram, you should. Fifty
four of gen Z women and fifty three percent of
gen Z men say that on a monthly basis they
spend a total of zero dollars on dates. I still
contend that technology has something to do with this. Even
reporting on this technology has ruined here. I went looking
(24:02):
for audio to supplement the story to talk about, and
I found a place called buzz Now USA.
Speaker 1 (24:08):
They used AI to tell this story.
Speaker 7 (24:12):
Imagine an entire generation in America saying dating, no thanks.
Half of general Z is spending zero dollars a month
on romance.
Speaker 3 (24:21):
First of all, is that general Z. General Z sounds
like Russian invaders in Ukraine.
Speaker 1 (24:30):
That's not it. But then zero dollars on romance.
Speaker 3 (24:34):
This AI spent zero dollars on the personality augmentation upgrade.
Speaker 5 (24:40):
That's rhino dates.
Speaker 1 (24:41):
That's right, No dates, that's so bad.
Speaker 7 (24:44):
Oh, that's rhino dates, No dinners, no roses. Welcome to
the Romance Recession introduction. In today's video, we're diving into
one of the strangest trends shaping America right now. Love once,
the harpy of culture, is being replaced by financial caution
and career hustle.
Speaker 3 (25:02):
Here's where I'm gonna I'm gonna diverge a little bit
from what you said, Burshida, because while we may not
be going to the movies, or we're not gonna go bowling,
we don't have the extra money to do whatever the
whatever the activity is. There are free dates, right, there's
there's free dates. You're gonna buy groceries anyway, you can
(25:24):
go grocery shopping together as a date. You can learn
a lot more from somebody when you go grocery shopping
with them than you can by.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
Going to the movies with them.
Speaker 3 (25:32):
I would argue grocery shopping is a far better date
for determining whether or not the relationship has legs.
Speaker 9 (25:37):
But women don't want to go home with men that
they don't know.
Speaker 10 (25:40):
So if you go to the groceries where they're like,
come over, I'll cook you dinner, women are like, that's
so sketchy.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
All right, well that's first dates, right, but you're just
not gonna get to that at all.
Speaker 1 (25:52):
Right, sounds like they're sounds like they're not even gonna
get to that.
Speaker 3 (25:55):
Okay, all right again, gen Z has ruined sex ago
evidently coffee is too expensive for a first date. Now
you can't even do that.
Speaker 1 (26:06):
Huh that's the truth. Really.
Speaker 11 (26:09):
Yeah, if you want to go out on a date
with somebody, usually first dates that are appropriating, you know,
maybe go grab lunch or a coffee. Yeah, people actually
have to like almost take out a second mortgage if
they want to do that nowadays.
Speaker 1 (26:21):
Uh, it's bad.
Speaker 11 (26:25):
I say, you know what, maybe we can go home,
or like I can brew some coffee at home and
bring it over and even that sketch because they're gonna
think that I put something in the coffee.
Speaker 3 (26:33):
Oh yeah, never, I would tell my daughter don't accept
any drinks from him.
Speaker 1 (26:38):
Yeah, one hundred percent.
Speaker 3 (26:39):
But I could see, Hey there's this cute little coffee shop.
Let's go get coffee and then we'll go walk at
the nearby park or something, right, just something to get
to know somebody.
Speaker 11 (26:49):
The cuter it is, the more expensive it is. Just
saying that can't be true. Oh yeah, just to go
for a walk. Oh you say, coffee in a walk.
If you don't want to go for a walk, then
you know you might get away with it. Better be
nic scenery though, I hear you on this Chris.
Speaker 10 (27:04):
But also I see that gen Z doesn't even want
to date someone if they don't make more than two
hundred thousand dollars a year, So they have unrealistic expectations,
like they don't want to go on free dates. Oh
that's interesting, even if they're poor and they gets too
low effort. But you know, they have AI boyfriends and girlfriends,
so that's fine.
Speaker 11 (27:23):
That's the thing. Their emotional needs are getting met in
other ways.
Speaker 3 (27:27):
Now, this is fascinating because Sam is a therapist. For
those that didn't hear it earlier, Sam is a therapist.
Are you running into this where people are feeling like
they've got emotional like that's all being done.
Speaker 11 (27:36):
I haven't had any new clients or anybody who are
bringing up like relationships with AI, but I've been seeing
so many stories in the news of people like generations
beyond us. It's going to become more and more normalized.
I think thirty I saw a study that said something
like thirty percent of gen z are like they're looking
(27:57):
at AI relationships as viable options, and that percentage is
only gonna go up because more and more people growing
up are gonna have that as already built in option.
Speaker 3 (28:08):
Part of the fun of a relationship is not getting
along sometimes. I mean, if AI is only giving me
what I want from it all the time, then how
is that making me a better person. That's the most
narcissistic relationship there is. That's that's a that's that's I
(28:30):
don't know. I like to be challenged. My wife and
I argue all the time, and not my I don't
say we argue all the time.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
That makes some bad.
Speaker 3 (28:36):
My wife and I will disagree on things. She'll tell
me to shut up, you don't know what you're talking about.
A I would say, Okay, that's right, Okay.
Speaker 1 (28:44):
I can't. I can't with that.
Speaker 11 (28:46):
AI is getting way more developed. There is a guy
out there the news. The story's been in the news.
His what He has a wife and a kid, and
he proposed to AI and the AI said yes. Now
the AI. One of these stories said that they he
got into an argument with the AI and the AI
forgot he existed for twenty four hours.
Speaker 9 (29:11):
Cold shoulder.
Speaker 1 (29:11):
That's funny, it's hilarious.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Cuts you off, that's next level, you know who. It's crazy.
Speaker 1 (29:18):
My wife would hate that.
Speaker 3 (29:19):
When when my wife and I were dating, we got
a new argument, she gave me the silent treatment, and
I just kind of learned.
Speaker 1 (29:25):
What she didn't know is that my mother is the
king of the silent treatment. My mother once.
Speaker 3 (29:29):
Got uh she got a cold shoulder from somebody at
work one time, and my mother refused to talk to
this person for a year, like they worked like in
neighboring cubicles. My mother would not acknowledge her existence for
a full year. And they were friends prior to whatever
this episode was. This one day that this other woman
was having a bad day. So when my wife gives
(29:49):
me the cold shulder, I'm like, okay, I guess this
is how we do it. So then now I sadly
will turn passive aggressive because obviously I learned that from
my mother, and it dress my wife nuts.
Speaker 1 (30:00):
I can't even imagine if AI.
Speaker 3 (30:01):
Just ignored her for a while, she would my wife
would throw the computer right out the window.
Speaker 12 (30:06):
Doctor Wendy says, that's a form of just like I
don't know, abuse.
Speaker 5 (30:11):
Yeah, Like that's no.
Speaker 3 (30:13):
I'm not saying I'm good. I'm not proud of it.
I'm just telling you that's my coping mechanism.
Speaker 9 (30:18):
Stay toxic.
Speaker 1 (30:19):
Well not wait a minute, wait a minute.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
It's not that I'm necessarily being passive aggressive, she says,
he's trying to be passive aggressive. What I'm doing is avoidance, right,
So sometimes I can be passive aggressive. My wife is
the one who actually will employ it as passive aggression.
I'm more of avoidance. I don't want to fight with you.
I don't want to argue. And if I start talking
to you're gonna start yelling at me, and I don't
want to deal with that, so I'm just gonna go away.
(30:43):
And then she's like, you're doing this to hurt me,
and I'm like, no, I'm doing this because I don't
want to be hurt. See yeah, And I'm not telling
you it's emotionally mature. I'm not telling you it's good.
This is one of the things that we've talked about
with therapists before and saying how do we get better
at communicating so that we don't go through this because
it doesn't doesn't go well, but it is what I do.
Speaker 1 (31:06):
Maybe we'll have to hire sam Sex to say.
Speaker 3 (31:09):
M oh, I thought he was putting a little cap
on his ar.
Speaker 11 (31:16):
I'm sorry, I have to push the button I was
trying to push my mic button on.
Speaker 3 (31:19):
And pushed the front. I thought it was like sex,
doctor Sam. And then yeah, yeah, all right, all right,
we'll get ready to push that button again. Is it
marrying up or is it gold digging? They call it hypergamy.
That's next, Chris Merrill can if I am six forty,
we live everywhere on the iHeart.
Speaker 1 (31:37):
Radio, start looking forward to that.
Speaker 3 (31:41):
Stinky you think that Zelmans would have like a stink
eye means through something of the sort. Give us the
next incarnation, Chris Merril, ca, if I am six forty,
more stimulating talk. The great doctor Wendy Wallash coming up
here at seven o'clock because she just got called back
for an interview that she has to uh go.
Speaker 1 (32:00):
Try to set up again, So we will make do
without her.
Speaker 3 (32:03):
But I wanted to invite Bragia back in because Bragina
made mention of something a moment ago when we were
talking about gen Z's.
Speaker 1 (32:09):
I say, gen Z is not as interested in dating.
Speaker 3 (32:12):
She says they can't afford it, and then she said
gen zs they only want to date people that make
more than two hundred thousand dollars a year.
Speaker 11 (32:20):
You kill me, n say she you go digs and
window broke nice say she.
Speaker 1 (32:27):
You go dig.
Speaker 3 (32:29):
It feels to me Bragida like it is lacking self awareness.
Speaker 10 (32:34):
Well, how they going to get out of their mom's
house if they don't have a sugarman or sugar woman
to get them out?
Speaker 3 (32:40):
Of course, the catch twenty two on that is that
if all of them are waiting for someone else to
rescue them, then everyone's just bobbing around the iceberg waiting
for somebody else to show.
Speaker 1 (32:50):
Up with a lifeboat. Well.
Speaker 10 (32:51):
I also see hilarious articles that are like gen z
is uh, you know dating boomers, like young women are
dating boomers.
Speaker 9 (32:59):
I'm like, well, that's always happened.
Speaker 1 (33:01):
Yeah, I was gonna say, is there a new website
for that? It's weird? What is it?
Speaker 11 (33:07):
I think it's sugar daddy dot com.
Speaker 1 (33:09):
Oh, I don't have enough for that.
Speaker 3 (33:12):
I can't afford the cover charge to get onto sugar
daddy dot com. Just my wife can't afford the cover
charge to get on sugar Mama dot com either, So
that's fine with me.
Speaker 1 (33:20):
Whatever. I guess we're just stuck with each other. Is it?
Are you marrying up? Or are you gold digging?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
They're calling it hypergamy uh and that is this idea
that you are marrying for not just love, but you
are marrying for let's call it security.
Speaker 1 (33:36):
Yeah. Security.
Speaker 3 (33:38):
People are looking for hypergamous relationships, sometimes referred to as
marrying up this from USA today, creating long term or
romantic relationship with somebody who has a higher status in
a certain way or value.
Speaker 1 (33:51):
Milania.
Speaker 3 (33:52):
Hypergamus relationship is not only about economic status, he said.
A person may want to marry it for social, spiritual, intellectual,
or creative reasons too. This brigida does not seem new either.
I'd like to point to the Prince of England, Prince
of Wales and his wife. Remember it was a big
deal that Kate Middleton, wasn't She wasn't the part of
(34:13):
the what.
Speaker 9 (34:14):
Do you call it, the the upper class?
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (34:19):
No, what the aristocracy? Aristocracy? Thank you, that's the word,
doctor Sam. Thank you Nikki who grew up in a
British penal colony Island. We appreciate that.
Speaker 1 (34:32):
Jill Day You like I've said, I'd rather be a
convict than a puritan. I mean, I'm not wrong.
Speaker 3 (34:38):
Okay, so this doesn't seem all that new to me either,
How then, hm hm, how then does it all work
out if everyone is trying to marry up for money
or status and they don't have it to start with
landed gentry, that was the one I was looking for.
Aristocracy also works, though, I A. I also wonder this
(35:01):
and Brigs, you know you're closer to it than I am,
being that you're an actual journalist.
Speaker 1 (35:06):
How much of this is clickbait?
Speaker 10 (35:08):
I think a lot of it is clickbait. I mean,
don't we all want to marry somebody's super rich. It's
not like a new thing. I just I feel like
they're just trying to make something out of it. The
truth is gen Z they do the gen Z stare
because they're emotionally not able to connect because they spent
so much time online.
Speaker 3 (35:23):
I agree with that. That's an issue that we're having
with my daughter. She hears somebody she doesn't like and
she just stares at you.
Speaker 1 (35:29):
Huh. It drives me nuts.
Speaker 9 (35:31):
They're just getting us ready for our future interacting with robots.
Speaker 3 (35:36):
And I guess so imagine if you're imagine if the
nurse at your nursing home just gives you that stare.
Speaker 10 (35:44):
I got the gen Z stair recently, and I was
offended until I figured out what it was, and I
was like, oh, it's not me, okay, And I.
Speaker 1 (35:50):
Still don't know how to communicate.
Speaker 9 (35:51):
I didn't do anything wrong.
Speaker 3 (35:54):
They just just eyeballs. You just it's just dead in
the eyes. That's how my daughters.
Speaker 9 (35:57):
They looked at me like they hated me.
Speaker 10 (35:59):
But then I realized they just hated their job, and
I could I could relate to times in my life
where that was true.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
You know.
Speaker 3 (36:05):
They used to give us gen xers that kind of
grief too, Like it's every generation, and I.
Speaker 9 (36:11):
Called them out. Next time it happens, we'll be oh,
my god, you're doing the thing. You're doing the thing.
Speaker 3 (36:15):
Oh okay, that'll be funny. Would that be like the
millennial or the gen X call out?
Speaker 1 (36:22):
Oh?
Speaker 9 (36:23):
I don't know, is that a thing?
Speaker 1 (36:24):
It is if we start it?
Speaker 9 (36:27):
Okay, cool?
Speaker 3 (36:27):
Just every time we see a gen Z or we
just call them out for that stuff. I just think
every generation picks on the youngest generation, of course, and
it's just gen Z's turn. I mean Millennials for the
It was right up until about twenty twenty that it
was the millennials were the problem.
Speaker 1 (36:41):
Oh millennials, Millennials, Oh, millennials, are wearing.
Speaker 3 (36:43):
We're ruining the workplace all millennials, and boy, I remember
growing up Generation X, Generation next, we were we were
just ruining everything. There was no hope for the future
of America. And now it's Gen Z and everybody's going
to be fine. But I think a lot of these
stories are all about yeah, they are. They are because
(37:03):
the one thing is that every generation has its own
challenges and they just have to figure it out and
overcome it.
Speaker 1 (37:07):
What does what does not find look like?
Speaker 3 (37:09):
Do we turn into a dystopian state now.
Speaker 12 (37:13):
To communicate and connect with each other and just connect
and communicate with robots only and loose human touch.
Speaker 1 (37:23):
That's only bad based on your perspective.
Speaker 5 (37:26):
It's not. It's not. It's evolution.
Speaker 3 (37:29):
Okay, let me Okay, So my grandparents would be very
dismayed that I don't read very often.
Speaker 1 (37:36):
I read every day. Now, wait a.
Speaker 3 (37:37):
Minute, I read a lot. I just don't sit down
with a book at the end of the night. I
don't crack open a book very often. But I read constantly.
I'm constantly reading the news mostly right, or I'm reading
stats on something, or I'm reading whatever it is.
Speaker 1 (37:52):
I am reading constantly.
Speaker 3 (37:54):
I have one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine,
windows visible, and my two monitors. Right now, I'm reading
all of it. It's all open to different things. But
I don't sit down and read Hemingway, which, by the way,
I think the last book I read was Hemingway, wonderful writer.
Speaker 1 (38:12):
I just don't do it a whole lot. My grandparents
would be appalled all this generation. They're terre they don't
even read anymore.
Speaker 11 (38:19):
No, but I'm.
Speaker 3 (38:20):
Interacting with people and stories online, and while I don't
have the newspaper in front of me, I don't think
that I'm less well adjusted. I don't think I'm less intellectual.
But they would be appalled because their perspective is different. Kayla,
you're a book worm and I just ruined everything for you.
You're like, yeah, I'm with your grandparents.
Speaker 5 (38:40):
You need to read your books.
Speaker 1 (38:41):
You're the worst, all right, you know what. That's enough, Brageta,
thank you for rescuing the last half hour this show.
Speaker 3 (38:46):
You're welcome, because honestly, Kayla was crapped for the first
two and a half hours.
Speaker 1 (38:50):
It was really hard.
Speaker 2 (38:51):
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