October 9, 2025 • 35 mins
Chris Merrill talks!!! Today, it's about the guy who set the Palisades Fire getting caught in Florida. Katie Porter blew her gubernatorial shot thanks to melting down in a CBS interview... Gubernatorial candidate Stephen J. Cloobeck joins Chris to pay his respects to her dead campaign... And how long will this government shutdown last??? It would lovely to have a well-stocked air control tower at Burbank Airport. Just saying...
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to k IF. I am six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
I'm Chris Merrill. Thanks for being a h mark. I
heard your story there about Dolly. That's what a relief.
I actually have some some of the audio from her, uh,
from her Instagram. I know you had some of it,
but I've got I've got a little bit extended version.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You want to hear it? Yeah? Please, we can't lose Dolly. No,
I know, I know We've been through enough.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Right, we lost James Earl Jones, we lost Betty White,
Bob Barker recently, and Dick Van Dyke of course in
Clint Eastwood and.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
That some of those are still with us. I believe.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Oh you lose Robert Redford though, right, he is still dead. Yeah,
finger on the pulse on that one, good one, very good.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And then Dolly.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I'm kidding vision, No matter what you do, don't shout
in me at her.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's one of those movies from the seventies that I
actually do know. So my kid knows almost every single
line from that movie. That means you raised him, right, Yeah,
you're the best parent in the world.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, thank you. You raised him, right, you did you
did that? So Sam is in with us tonight. Of
course he was there with the Conway as well. Of
course Mark steps in and Richie is helping me put
everything together today. Beit a while since you and I
got together. Yea, but here we are. I know, I
was at excited.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Richie sent me a Texas morning he says, hey, I'm
gonna help you today, and yes, got you? Got you Richie?
What sid?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
And then of course we got this breaking news about
the firebug that got arrested for the Palisades fire. The
press conferences just dip into a little bit of what
was happening. With the press conference. What stood out to
me was the chat GPT stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
That's from his chat ChiPT uh.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
That's an image he produced a few months before the
fire started. It shows shows a city being burnt there.
The allegations are further supported by the defendant cell phone,
his false statements to law enforcement, and his behavior during
the Lochman fire, which the defendant is charged with maliciously
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starting shortly after midnight on New Year's Day of this year,
and which eventually became the Palace States fire.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Okay, so they've got a ton of evidence on this guy. Right,
They've got the GPS, they've got DNA, they've got all
kinds of things, and so they charged him with starting
a fire, destruction of property.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
They're probably going to tack some more stuff on there.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
There are a few aspects of the story that really
jump out at me. First is that it sounds like
he started the fire. The fire department was called, and
then they put the fire out, but then it wasn't
all the way out right, So the Lockman fire was
the first one in it.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
They caught that on New Year's Day, and.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The fire department got it and I went, okay, clear
the scene, and then I think they went back to
it and they went, yep, everything's good, We're all good.
And then a week later, the smoldering turns into the
fire that of course destroyed so many places and then
claimed the lives of a dozen people.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Horrific.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I have already heard from some people and I see
their point, but I can't get on board. They say
this guy shouldn't be charged with murder. They're talking about
throwing murder charges on this guy. They oh, he shouldn't
be charged with murder because the fire department didn't do
their jobs. Is the refrain. I'm not on board with that.
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I just I can't get on with that. And let
me explain. I want you to imagine that you are.
You've got a loved one who's in a in a
bad car accident. And let's say that they've got internal
injuries and they are rushed to the er. Right they're
in this car accident. Let's say a drug driver hit him.
Pow drunk driver hit him. Happens all often in our country.
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Your loved one is rushed to the hospital. They've got
internal injuries. They're immediately taken into surgery. The surgeon gets
in there, stops the bleeding, is able to mend the
innards of your friend, and then they are in ICU
for a day or two. They come out of ICU,
they're improving, they're looking good, you're running tests, you're doing
everything that you need to do. And the doctor says,
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I'm gonna let you go home and recover from home
after this, And so your loved one goes home. It
feels like they really, you know, they got a miracle.
And then once they're home three days later, suddenly they
spike a fever and they get the chills, and they
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start turning pale, and you call an ambulance, and the
ambulance comes and they go, oh, his blood oxygen is low,
and he's he's got this problem and that problem. And
so they put your loved one in the in the
back of the rig and they haul into the hospital
and by the time they get there, your loved one
is lost. Come to find out, your loved one died
from complications of those internal injuries. Is it the drunk
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driver's fault or is it the surgeon's fault. Most of
us would say the surgeon did the very best that
they could, and tragic things happen. That's just the way
life goes, and it sucks. But had that drunk driver
not gotten behind the wheel, none of this would have happened.
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So who's responsible for the death of your loved one,
The surgeon or the drunk driver. And that's my analogy
on this fire. So you've got a guy who started
the fire. He and our analogy is the drunk driver, Okay,
did something intentionally risky, dumb should have known better, YadA, YadA, YadA.
And then the fire department comes and they put it
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out and they do what they're supposed to do. And
then they're off to try to help the next place
that's catching fire because now wildfire season is year round,
so the fire department is off to the next fire
that they're trying to douse.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
A week later, we find out.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
That there was smoldering, that smoldering catches, and then it
turns into this horrific, horrific blaze that is still the
fault of the guy that did wrong to begin with.
So I can't get on board because I'm hearing a
lot of people are saying, you know this, this is
a really complicated story because you know, this guy, he
didn't start a fire that that killed anybody because the
fire department put it out.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
No, no, no, he started that fire.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
The fact that the fire didn't get put completely out
is irrelevant. He started it. This wasn't a lightning strike,
This wasn't it. He started the fire, period, So allegedly,
if in fact this is the guy, which it looks
like it is, but even if it's not, it's somebody else,
it's still that person's fault.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's that the fire department's fault.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
That's not to say that we don't need to evaluate
best practices. It's not to say that the surgeon can't
learn from whatever happened to your loved one so that
the next time it's better. Right, there's nothing that says
we can't learn from what happened. But as far as
accountability and responsibility goes, it's the dude that started the fire.
That's it. I just I can't fathom any other way
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around it. There is something else, though, and it's a
sin that we commit. Media and I would say law
enforcement does this too. So they talked about the chat
GPT image that he created. In fact, I think Fox
eleven was talking about it too. Here's a Fox eleven
was reporting. Everybody of course was reporting on this.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Right, and they were saying, they really don't want to
get into motive too much, but they do believe that
this is someone who was really into fire. He obviously,
they're saying, had that chat GPT image generating that fire,
showing people fleeing from it. This was a few months
before this fire actually started. And then they're also saying
that he was listening to that French rap song that
also talked about fire as well. So definitely something that
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they're going to be continuing to look into.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Okay, from that, I don't know about you, but I
the obvious this fire was a direct result of the French.
French trappers absolutely, and and I think we need to
hold all of them accountable.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
So it was more of a flambay.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Ugh.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay, your guy was fascinated by fire.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I mean it would stand a reason, right if in
fact this is the but this whole thing like, well
they found images of fires. So okay, maybe paused for
just a second, because Mark, you've written lots of uh,
graphic novels, right, comic books?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yes, thank you, Oh god, thank you so much. Oh god.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I hate a pretentious a hole every time I have
to say it's not a comic book, it's a graphic novel.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Shut up. Comic is. Comic book is less pretentious.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
It's what they are when when you jam them together
into like a bound volume.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You can call them whatever you want. I don't care,
yeah whatever. But the fact is is that there are
there are action sequences. And so.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Now we're going to say, well, they were fascinated by
this art. That means that they definitely did this crime.
Stop right, right. I hope you never watched Beavis and
butthead and there butt heead was it?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh? It's Beavis, the one who says fire, fire, fire,
right right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Come on, people, let's just let's just dial it back,
just dial it back and be like, can you believe
that he did this? And of course you know the
police are going to say we found this. It's more
reason not to question our work. And media is like, oh,
look at this guy, he did this thing. But and
again it looks like they have plenty of other evidence
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pointing to this particular Florida man, which, by the way, Florida,
don't export your Florida man crap to us. Please keep
your Florida man stuff to yourself. But do you remember
Richard Jewel the nineteen ninety six Olympic bombing.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Of course Richard Jewel.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
He was a security guard that had access and when
they raided his house they found pornography, and everyone, oh, well,
he obviously was the bomber because that guy had porn.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Come on on, come on, I just I don't like that.
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
What other chat GPT images did he have? Was it
only fire when you walked into his room? Was it
just a shrine to arson or did he did you
find an example of him making this? This this picture,
which could have been quite easily for his own personal
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graphic novel. He's a Florida man, he's very elite, of course.
Come on, I just I can't get on board with
this stuff. I just can't. I can't do it. There's
my uh, there's my hot takes for today.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
A hot take. I see what you did there, Thank you,
hot take about it. I'm glad you caught it. Nice
work on that, thank you. Uh did you happen to
see the unforced error by Katie Porter today? I've been
reading about it.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Oh my gosh, Like how to sink a gubernatorial campaign
in one easy step?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That is next.
Speaker 3 (10:59):
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Speaker 2 (11:17):
So Katy Porter.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Sat down with CBS and she was doing an interview,
and CBS is interviewing everybody that is looking to be
a governor, and they were asking her questions like what
do you say about this, and then when she would
say something, they did a follow up. And here's what
we know about Katy Porter. Now, do not ask Katie
Porter questions.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
She does not approve redistricting. What do you think of
the governor's plan?
Speaker 9 (11:43):
I support the governor's plan.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
What do you say to the forty percent of California
voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted
for Trump?
Speaker 9 (11:52):
How would I need them in order to win?
Speaker 10 (11:54):
So?
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
of the vote, do you think you'll get sixty ps all,
everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.
Speaker 9 (12:02):
That's what you're going a general election?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yes, okay. First of all, slight error by the interviewer.
She should have said you may need to win rather
than you will need to win. But just the same,
Katie Porter was not prepared to say I will work
across the aisle. Hey, what is it that every candidate
says when they're running from I will work across the aisle?
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Katie Porter repeat after me, I will work across the aisle.
I will work even if you don't mean it, I
will work across the aisle if it is.
Speaker 11 (12:36):
Me versus a Republican. I think that I will win
the people who did not.
Speaker 10 (12:40):
Vote for What if it's you versus another Democrat.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
I don't intend that to be the case.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I mean, it's a jungle primary, so it absolutely could
be the case. What do you mean I don't intend
for that to be a case. I don't intend for
that to be the case.
Speaker 10 (12:54):
What so, how do you not intend that to be
the case? Do you do?
Speaker 7 (12:58):
You?
Speaker 10 (12:58):
Are you going to ask them not to run?
Speaker 11 (13:00):
You know, I'm saying I'm going to build the support.
I have the support already in terms of name recognition,
and so I'm going to do the very best I
can to make sure that we get through this primary
in a really strong position. But let me be clear
with you. I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area.
I have stood on my own two feet and one
Republican votes before. That's not something every candidate and this
race can say. If you're from a deep blue area,
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if you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you.
Speaker 10 (13:24):
Don't have an experience, then you don't need those Trump voters.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, I mean, port you should have given that answer
to start with.
Speaker 11 (13:31):
You asked me if I needed them to win, So
you don't. I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
What is your question?
Speaker 10 (13:37):
The question is the same thing I asked everybody that
this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's
power graph. Every other candidate has answered this question. Is
it's not argument I support it.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
So And the question is what do you say to
the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump?
Speaker 11 (13:55):
Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you
need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm
happy to answer the question. What's the question as you
haven't written, and I'll.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Answer, Oh, this is the new popular thing is to
attack the reporter, isn't it. I mean, it's always been there,
but now I guess this is just the new.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I wonder why the youngest generation doesn't want to get
into news and they want to just be podcasters.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
H wonder why.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win?
Speaker 10 (14:24):
And you're saying no, you don't.
Speaker 11 (14:25):
No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every
vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
That Okay, a couple of things going on. Let's talk
inner monologue for a moment. Do you think that Katie Porter,
her inner monologue is going oh don't oh, oh okay,
this just became argumentative. I can either bring it back
and make it congenial, or I can acknowledge this argumentative
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and then blame the reporter.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's what's going on in her inner monologue.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
As the reporter goes, let me just tell you how
this works. Reporter at first is taken aback by Katie Porter. Uh,
jumping at it like WHOA didn't seem like a tough question.
And then as Katie Porter kept digging herself a hole,
the reporter kept thinking, Oh this is good. Oh this
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is going viral. That's how the inner monologues work between
those two people, well.
Speaker 10 (15:21):
To those voters.
Speaker 11 (15:22):
Okay, so you I don't want to keep doing it
because I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
Thank you, I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
You're not gonna do the interview with them.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
It's not like this.
Speaker 11 (15:30):
I'm not not with seven follow ups to every single
question you ask.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Outstanding Porter's like I'm going to make a statement. I'm
going to bail on this, and the reporter's like, oh,
oh god, bless it. This is amazing. I'm watching someone's
political career self destruct right in front of me.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
This is going on my reel.
Speaker 10 (15:51):
Every other candidate has answered calls.
Speaker 9 (15:53):
I don't care.
Speaker 11 (15:54):
I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you
asked me about every issue on this list. And if
every question that you're going to make up a follow
up question, then we're never going to get there.
Speaker 12 (16:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm pretty sure that's how journalism works, mister.
Speaker 9 (16:08):
We're just going to circle A R A and hesitative
had to.
Speaker 10 (16:10):
Do this before ever, You've never had.
Speaker 9 (16:13):
To have an conversation in order.
Speaker 10 (16:17):
Okay, but every other candidate has done this.
Speaker 11 (16:19):
What part of I'm me? I'm reading for governor because
I'm a leader.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
So yeah, sounds like I am going to.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
Make So you're not going to answer questions from reporters.
Speaker 10 (16:28):
Okay, why don't we go through?
Speaker 8 (16:30):
I will continue to ask follow up questions because that's
my job as a journalist, but I will go through
and ask these and if you don't want to answer,
you don't want to answer.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Oh that was a good move by the journalist. So
she is giving porter more rope. Here you go I
see that you're already swinging by your neck, but you're
still gasping.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Let me just see if I can.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
Finish the job so nearly every legislative.
Speaker 9 (16:51):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
With you, and I don't want to have an unhappy
experience with you. Oh. I think Katie Porter trying to
break up with.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
Media, and I don't want this on on camera.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either.
I would love to continue to ask these questions so
that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels
about every one of these issues that they care about.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
What do you think she meant by I don't want
to have this on camera. Okay, that's where the inner
monologue went. Uh oh, doubling down was the wrong choice.
Now it's out there. Uh oh, it's on tape. You're screwed.
I don't want this camera. I'm a leader, you know.
I want to be the leader.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
And redistricting it's a massive issue. We're going to do
an entire story just on the responses to that question,
and I asked everybody the same follow up questions.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
That was it game over? Huh oh?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
So Porter keeps challenging the questions themselves. She keeps getting
upset about it. Former staffer, remember, did accuse Porter in
the past of verbal abuse and retaliation.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Porter denied those claims so that they were politically motivated.
So it's your fault. The reporter made me look bad.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Of course, those allegations are are catching more traction again
after this meltdown.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Truly tremendous.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
You just watched You watched a politician and I don't
know if she stood a chance of winning the governor's
race at all. I'm gonna say she didn't. But uh, you
just watch your seal her own fate. That's what just happened.
And you're gonna be able to go, oh, we will
be referring to this, this own goal for decades like, oh,
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well they really portered themselves. There, we're turning Porter into
a verb. Ooh, did this gubernatorial candidate just porter themselves?
That's the future of Katie Porter, now, that's it. Well,
she could become president. I thought the same thing, honestly, Mark,
I thought the same thing. I thought, Oh, arguing with
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the reporter looking bad and then saying the reporter made
me do it.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, that's enough. To get you.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I wonder if there's any precedent for this kind of
behavior journalists.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yes, have you ever seen this happen before? Is their
precedent for this?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Who has lashed out a journalists in the recent past
that we could possibly point to out of the California's
gonna stand for it. We're gonna hear from one of
the other gubernatorial candidates who's running against Porter in the
primary and get the reaction there. That is next time,
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Speaker 1 (19:23):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Chris Merrell.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Remember you can grab us anytime on demand the iHeart
Radio app. Katie Porter had a total meltdown talking with
a CBS interviewer. The interviewer asked how she planned to
win over Trump voters, and Porter said, how would I
need them to win, ma'am? And then it was just
a couple of moments later, after some back and forth
that we heard this, Oh, come on, go, why is
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my stuff not working?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Now? Guys?
Speaker 9 (19:56):
I don't want to keep doing it because I'm gonna
call it.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I don't know why I'm gonna blame Richie for breaking
my Richie, why'd you do that?
Speaker 9 (20:02):
I don't want to keep doingness. I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Like that.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Richie's like, yeah, whatever, I'm breaking the next sound it
was one hundred percent me. Yeah, I don't want to
keep doing this. So she just says, I'm out.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
I don't want to keep doing this. I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Joining us. Right now is Stephen J.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Klubeck. He's a candidate for governor as well as a
Democrat running against Porter in the primaries. Mister Kluebec, I'm
going to call it the end of her political aspirations.
That interview was it? That was her Ducaucus in the
tank moment. That was her Howard Dean's scream moment. Did
you read anything.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Else rest in piece, Kadie Porter?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
It was not great man, it was I mean, would
you said that was there? Was there a little bit
of you that felt like even a little bit of
a sympathy for us, because at one point I'm watching
herself destruct and I'm thinking, oh no, oh, I like
I felt pity.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
No, because because she is who she is, So the
costume came off.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, I guess that's fair.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
That's the that's the authentic, that's the authentic, Katie Porter.
Everyone got to be unapologetically authentic. That's what we're missing today.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
You'll run some big companies, right, I mean, surely there
have been heated expansions in your companies before. I mean,
there's got to be a limit between like pushing somebody
or pushing back and completely self destructing.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
But I sat for an hour with Julie Watts at CBS,
as she did with every other candidate, and at the
end of the is she asked tough questions.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
She has tough.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Questions, and I answered all the questions candidly, with integrity
and unapologetically. And you know, she told me that I
sound like all the Republicans. I said, I'm a Californian.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
What can I tell you? It's it's a complement. I'm
a Reagan Democrat. I'm old school, and you know, I'm
not a politician. But look, there's no excuse for that.
There's no excuse for that. The customers of California deserve
more better. And there's nine months left till the primary
and things will shake out. You know, we hope for
the best for California because California is too great of
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a state. I mean, I didn't expect to do this.
I mean I literally interviewed every candidate and there was
not one I could back. And I'm trained by you know,
Bill Clinton, Harry Reid, my adopted dad. Yeah, I just
this is not easy. California is a workout. It's a
business workout. It really needs skills of a business person,
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business leader fixed. What's broken?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Is there an opportunity from just from a political standpoint,
Stephen J. Klubeck is joining me right now, gubernatorial candidate.
Is there an opportunity from from a political standpoint to
sort of capitalize on this because you know, oh, your
opponents are going to try to make Hay well the sun.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Is up on this. Oh.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
I mean I played my interview with Julie against Katie
Porter's interview and it was just you can look at it,
go to my instagram.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Stephen J.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Kouban at night and day. I mean, just you have
a respect for reporters. Reporters have to ask tough questions,
and you answer the question, you know, unapologetically, authentically, with integrity,
and if you don't know the answer, you say, I
don't know, but you don't push back like that. You're
leading the fourth largest economy of the world, and that's
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what this horse race is about, because you know, we
got to the leaders. Leaders have to protect our life safety.
They have to know how to sign the front of
a check. Great jobs, deliver performance and results. That's how
leaders lead and you can't be compromised. And unfortunately the
politicians that we have in this great state are all carareists.
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They think they're entitled to this, and you've got to
roll up your sleeves.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's a fair assessment. Stephen J. Klubeck is joining me
right now, gubernatorial candidate.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
We're talking about Katie Porter's meltdown in the interview with
CBS News. They are career politicians, but I would also
say that that may give them an advantage when it
comes to metaphorical combat in the political arena. What have
you noticed? Obviously, you're a successful businessman, You've got I mean,
you've done very well. So what are you noticing is
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like the biggest difference between running a business and then
trying to run a campaign. Certainly there's similarities, but there's
got to be some glaring differences.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Oh well, I've I've been around forty years and watched.
But I ran tourism in the United States. I worked
for the White House for three years. I created Brand
New USA, the Tourism Department of the United States. I've
been a regulator. I ran, you know, the largest athletic
commission in the world. So and I passed laws. So
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the problem is most business people don't want to get
involved in the politics because it's a nasty business. It's
the blood sport. And you know, they're great leaders that
we have just don't want to touch it because there's
no money in it. It's really selfless and you have
to be at the right place in your life to
even want to do it. And we need more business
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leaders actually have that have done well they get involved
in politics and policy. California would be better off, the
world wouldn't be better off. And when I investigated this race,
there was no succession. We haven't created great leaders. So, frankly,
shame on the last three governors for not creating great leaders.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Well, how come it's not very often we have somebody
that's been a very successful businessman like yourself and then
running as a as a Democrat. Why don't we see
more business leaders who are gravitating toward the left side
of the political aisle, is it?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I mean, is it expediency and tells what's what's the deal?
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Well, because I grew up in the San Fern and
a valley and I was a Democrat since I was
eighteen years old, and the Democratic Party was ranked Democrat.
It was it was conservative, middle of the road, blue
dog Democrat. It was called we're business leaders, and we
led when we were fighters and we protected and we
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had integrity. And the Democratic Party everyone says it's woke. No,
I think it got weak and we need brass balls.
Where's the brass balls. I'm gonna come on. We've got
to be a protector and a fighter.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Stephen Jay Klubec, candidate for Governor, In response to what
Katie Porter did with the CBS News interview.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Mister Luebeck, thank you so much, appreciate you taking it.
Thank you, Thanks buddy, appreciate that my pleasure. Be well bye,
thank you, thank you so much. Hey, well there's a
guy that knows about resorts.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
We'll talk a little bit about the big one that's
coming to California that's coming up here after eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And uh, is it possible.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
We could be seeing an end to the government shutdown
starting right here in southern California. It's entirely possible. The
catalyst is someplace you've already been. That is next time
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Speaker 4 (27:10):
Ah.
Speaker 3 (27:11):
Yes, oh, Chris Merril kfi AM six forty more stimulating
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Speaker 2 (27:18):
Uh. Oh, Mark, you did.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
You have the news about the We've got peace in
the Middle East now, finally it's been two thousand years.
I believe Trump has announced that Israel and Hamas have
signed off on the first phase of it. No, it's done.
Oh my mistake. Yeah, did I not jump the gun enough?
Oh they're they're they're getting together in the the and
that Actually what I saw is that the first phase
is the coming together.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Phase two is when they sing kumbayah. Okay, Well that's happening. Yeah.
We strive for accuracy. Yeah. Hamas is working on a
come bay gotcha, gotcha? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
It's kind of great though that the hostages are getting back.
I mean, I'm like, I can't even imagine if you're
a family member and you've just every night, how do
you even sleep?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
For the last two years, how do you even sleep?
Just horrible.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
So I'm really really happy to see that this has
that this is happening. It's a it's all good news,
it's all good and I hope it holds.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I do. I genuinely hope that it holds.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Will it be enough to get Trump the Nobel Peace Prize?
And how long will he wait before he says he
deserves it? On truth social anybody want to guess I'm
gonna stay out of this if you don't mind, Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That's fine. Is that alright with you?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Well, he said that this was the first step towards strong,
durable and everlasting piece.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So we've got it. We're done done. I hope so,
and I hope so.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Be curious to see how this continues to play out,
because you know that there's gonna be some toes stepped on.
Hopefully it doesn't devolve into something horrific again. Meanwhile, back home,
our government continues to remain shut down. M I think
that could end all because of southern California, because specifically
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the Burbank Airport.
Speaker 13 (29:04):
For now, those air traffic controllers are going to be
back out of work this morning here at Hollywood Burbank Airport,
but the Federals.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
This is from Katla this morning.
Speaker 13 (29:11):
Aviation Administration warning this morning that those concerns are far
from over. There are expected delays and cancelations not only
here at Burbank, but also at airports nationwide. In fact,
travel experts also saying passengers need to be ready because
these problems are just getting started.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
This is just the beginning.
Speaker 13 (29:29):
In fact, this morning, eight major airports across the country,
including Las Vegas, Houston, Dallas, Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, Nashville, and
even Nework are experiencing air traffic control tower staffing issues.
The control tower workers who guide planes into and out
of those airports are calling in sick. That's because they
won't be getting paid until this shutdown ends on Monday night.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
The oh, let's do some irresponsible speculation. What will the
narrative be if we have a plane crash? But don't
want to guess? Oh my goodness, Oh, the politicians be
pointing fingers all over the place.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Oh, it's their fault. No, it's their fault. No, it's
their fault. No, it's their fault. No they did it. No,
they did it.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Oh my goodness, isn't everything still President Biden's fault with
regardable transportation. Here's the one thing I do know is
that a number of these air traffic controllers were found
in Hunter Biden's laptop.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
So you know, we're gonna get to the bottom of that.
Many many people are telling me that.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, if you've paid attention to Sean Duffy in his interviews, Okay,
well there's let's just end that sentence in the middle. Nope, yep, nope, nope.
I think this could be the end of the of
the shutdown. Here's why I heard the promo that Bill
handle was talking about. He talked about the longest shutdown
in American history was under Trump's first term. Do you
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know when the shortest shut down in American history happened?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Mark? Do you know this? Off the top of your hand?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I don't what is it? It was also during Trump's
first urn? How many total or under? I think he
had four?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah? Four?
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Four?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Okay, I got it right. Oh, look at that, thank you,
But that right off the top? Does anybody else have four?
Did Reagan have three? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I'll do the math. Okay, thanks man, I appreciate that.
So Reagan did have the same problem. The air traffic
controllers union went on strike. He fired eleven thousand of
those back in eighty one, if you'll recall, and very controversial.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
And it it made all kinds of hell.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Right during Trump shutdown twenty nineteen, you had a number
of controllers that called out sick, specifically in New York
at LaGuardia, and there were hundreds of flights delayed, and
that made Trump mad and he said, okay, it's time
to be done. I We've got Hollywood. Burbank is the
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first and worst example. Right when all eighth we had
eight eight. Okay, so there you go, Mark, Jimmy Carter
had five. Oh no kidding, I didn't realize it was
that many. Yeah, but they none of them lasted thirty
five days. Most of them were two days. I think
the average is to point eight or something. I did
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the math on this a while back. Anyway, where was
I I don't know, do we have a commercial ready
to go?
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Stop?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
My watch is talking to me out love that anyway,
So we have the first shutdown here where we have
no air traffic controllers at Hollywood, Burbank. And obviously it's
very difficult to communicate and not crash when you don't
have the air traffic controllers. And so now we're seeing
this happen elsewhere. I think this is going to be
the thing that pushes people and we go, we don't care.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Just get the government open. I can see that happening.
And what are we at? Seven day? Eight days? We're
at eight days now.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I don't know that this one's gonna last thirty five days.
I don't know that it's gonna happen. I also hope
it doesn't because I have a flight on the twenty fifth,
and I really so, I'm gonna be very under.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
On this one's gonna be ooh good one, oh man?
Do we need to take a break to actually think
about this? Wait? Are we betting? Are replacing bets? I'm done?
We don't bet. We don't bet? We we we we bet? Well,
I don't know if we're illegally allowed to bet? I
bet okay, I bet we don't get caught making illegal
bets on this?
Speaker 7 (33:24):
All right?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
How long is this gonna last? Let's go. Anybody want
to jump in.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I'm gonna go with seventeen days. Sam says, seventeen. Where
did you get that figure? But that's what that's exactly
what I thought.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Oh yeah, I have no idea because there's so many
different factors that you got to figure into this. I'll
just pick a random number that's gonna last three weeks,
all right, So twenty one if that's random, and I
and I have no reason to believe that it could
be true. Did Richie skip out yet? I can't see
and it was I can't see his camera. He's running
back in. Oh okay, he said, who's Ricky?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I said, Richie? Did I say Ricky? Yeah? No I didn't.
It's all good, Bill, It's Ricky now, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
It's Ricky now, Ricky, Ricky?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Where's Ricky? You've got to quell this revolt.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I love this? All right, Richie? How many days the
government gonna be shut down? He says, fifteen?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
All right? Fifteen? Does now?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
The let me see last week this week is fifteen?
Is a really good guess. Dang, would you just would
you say, Sam? You said seventeen? I said seventeen.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
The price is right thing and just undercut Sam by
two days it's not prices.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Right rules. How long we.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Got the seventeen more days until my flight? Uh seventeen
plus the anthe wing Fintan's twenty five. We don't want
to go that long. Let's go Uh dang, I'm like seventeen.
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go on the low side.
I'm gonna go twelve. I'm gonna say we get the
sucker wrapped up.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
End of this week. Oh, that's bold over the weekend. Twelve. Yep,
I'm gonna go twelve.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
There it is so now, you know, from the greatest
authorities on the matter, Mark sam Me Ricky. Yeah, we
have no idea if I actually did, Clay Ricky, I'm
really sorry.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I didn't mean that at all.
Speaker 12 (35:29):
It's all good. Yeah, welcome to show biz kid. Sorry, buddy,
I feel like such a tit when I do that.
All right, forget going to Vegas. You're just gonna be
able to head up the grapevine. We'll play a y next.
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Speaker 3 (00:09):
I'm Chris Merrill. Thanks for being a h mark. I
heard your story there about Dolly. That's what a relief.
I actually have some some of the audio from her, uh,
from her Instagram. I know you had some of it,
but I've got I've got a little bit extended version.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
You want to hear it? Yeah? Please, we can't lose Dolly. No,
I know, I know We've been through enough.
Speaker 3 (00:28):
Right, we lost James Earl Jones, we lost Betty White,
Bob Barker recently, and Dick Van Dyke of course in
Clint Eastwood and.
Speaker 2 (00:36):
That some of those are still with us. I believe.
Speaker 3 (00:39):
Oh you lose Robert Redford though, right, he is still dead. Yeah,
finger on the pulse on that one, good one, very good.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
And then Dolly.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
I'm kidding vision, No matter what you do, don't shout
in me at her.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
That's one of those movies from the seventies that I
actually do know. So my kid knows almost every single
line from that movie. That means you raised him, right, Yeah,
you're the best parent in the world.
Speaker 3 (01:12):
Yeah, thank you. You raised him, right, you did you
did that? So Sam is in with us tonight. Of
course he was there with the Conway as well. Of
course Mark steps in and Richie is helping me put
everything together today. Beit a while since you and I
got together. Yea, but here we are. I know, I
was at excited.
Speaker 2 (01:32):
Richie sent me a Texas morning he says, hey, I'm
gonna help you today, and yes, got you? Got you Richie?
What sid?
Speaker 3 (01:39):
And then of course we got this breaking news about
the firebug that got arrested for the Palisades fire. The
press conferences just dip into a little bit of what
was happening. With the press conference. What stood out to
me was the chat GPT stuff.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
That's from his chat ChiPT uh.
Speaker 5 (01:54):
That's an image he produced a few months before the
fire started. It shows shows a city being burnt there.
The allegations are further supported by the defendant cell phone,
his false statements to law enforcement, and his behavior during
the Lochman fire, which the defendant is charged with maliciously
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starting shortly after midnight on New Year's Day of this year,
and which eventually became the Palace States fire.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Okay, so they've got a ton of evidence on this guy. Right,
They've got the GPS, they've got DNA, they've got all
kinds of things, and so they charged him with starting
a fire, destruction of property.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
They're probably going to tack some more stuff on there.
Speaker 3 (02:38):
There are a few aspects of the story that really
jump out at me. First is that it sounds like
he started the fire. The fire department was called, and
then they put the fire out, but then it wasn't
all the way out right, So the Lockman fire was
the first one in it.
Speaker 2 (02:53):
They caught that on New Year's Day, and.
Speaker 3 (02:57):
The fire department got it and I went, okay, clear
the scene, and then I think they went back to
it and they went, yep, everything's good, We're all good.
And then a week later, the smoldering turns into the
fire that of course destroyed so many places and then
claimed the lives of a dozen people.
Speaker 2 (03:12):
Horrific.
Speaker 3 (03:14):
I have already heard from some people and I see
their point, but I can't get on board. They say
this guy shouldn't be charged with murder. They're talking about
throwing murder charges on this guy. They oh, he shouldn't
be charged with murder because the fire department didn't do
their jobs. Is the refrain. I'm not on board with that.
(03:37):
I just I can't get on with that. And let
me explain. I want you to imagine that you are.
You've got a loved one who's in a in a
bad car accident. And let's say that they've got internal
injuries and they are rushed to the er. Right they're
in this car accident. Let's say a drug driver hit him.
Pow drunk driver hit him. Happens all often in our country.
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Your loved one is rushed to the hospital. They've got
internal injuries. They're immediately taken into surgery. The surgeon gets
in there, stops the bleeding, is able to mend the
innards of your friend, and then they are in ICU
for a day or two. They come out of ICU,
they're improving, they're looking good, you're running tests, you're doing
everything that you need to do. And the doctor says,
(04:23):
I'm gonna let you go home and recover from home
after this, And so your loved one goes home. It
feels like they really, you know, they got a miracle.
And then once they're home three days later, suddenly they
spike a fever and they get the chills, and they
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start turning pale, and you call an ambulance, and the
ambulance comes and they go, oh, his blood oxygen is low,
and he's he's got this problem and that problem. And
so they put your loved one in the in the
back of the rig and they haul into the hospital
and by the time they get there, your loved one
is lost. Come to find out, your loved one died
from complications of those internal injuries. Is it the drunk
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driver's fault or is it the surgeon's fault. Most of
us would say the surgeon did the very best that
they could, and tragic things happen. That's just the way
life goes, and it sucks. But had that drunk driver
not gotten behind the wheel, none of this would have happened.
(05:29):
So who's responsible for the death of your loved one,
The surgeon or the drunk driver. And that's my analogy
on this fire. So you've got a guy who started
the fire. He and our analogy is the drunk driver, Okay,
did something intentionally risky, dumb should have known better, YadA, YadA, YadA.
And then the fire department comes and they put it
(05:50):
out and they do what they're supposed to do. And
then they're off to try to help the next place
that's catching fire because now wildfire season is year round,
so the fire department is off to the next fire
that they're trying to douse.
Speaker 2 (06:01):
A week later, we find out.
Speaker 3 (06:03):
That there was smoldering, that smoldering catches, and then it
turns into this horrific, horrific blaze that is still the
fault of the guy that did wrong to begin with.
So I can't get on board because I'm hearing a
lot of people are saying, you know this, this is
a really complicated story because you know, this guy, he
didn't start a fire that that killed anybody because the
fire department put it out.
Speaker 2 (06:23):
No, no, no, he started that fire.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
The fact that the fire didn't get put completely out
is irrelevant. He started it. This wasn't a lightning strike,
This wasn't it. He started the fire, period, So allegedly,
if in fact this is the guy, which it looks
like it is, but even if it's not, it's somebody else,
it's still that person's fault.
Speaker 2 (06:48):
It's that the fire department's fault.
Speaker 3 (06:49):
That's not to say that we don't need to evaluate
best practices. It's not to say that the surgeon can't
learn from whatever happened to your loved one so that
the next time it's better. Right, there's nothing that says
we can't learn from what happened. But as far as
accountability and responsibility goes, it's the dude that started the fire.
That's it. I just I can't fathom any other way
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around it. There is something else, though, and it's a
sin that we commit. Media and I would say law
enforcement does this too. So they talked about the chat
GPT image that he created. In fact, I think Fox
eleven was talking about it too. Here's a Fox eleven
was reporting. Everybody of course was reporting on this.
Speaker 6 (07:31):
Right, and they were saying, they really don't want to
get into motive too much, but they do believe that
this is someone who was really into fire. He obviously,
they're saying, had that chat GPT image generating that fire,
showing people fleeing from it. This was a few months
before this fire actually started. And then they're also saying
that he was listening to that French rap song that
also talked about fire as well. So definitely something that
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they're going to be continuing to look into.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Okay, from that, I don't know about you, but I
the obvious this fire was a direct result of the French.
French trappers absolutely, and and I think we need to
hold all of them accountable.
Speaker 2 (08:08):
So it was more of a flambay.
Speaker 7 (08:10):
Ugh.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Okay, your guy was fascinated by fire.
Speaker 3 (08:15):
I mean it would stand a reason, right if in
fact this is the but this whole thing like, well
they found images of fires. So okay, maybe paused for
just a second, because Mark, you've written lots of uh,
graphic novels, right, comic books?
Speaker 2 (08:31):
Yes, thank you, Oh god, thank you so much. Oh god.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
I hate a pretentious a hole every time I have
to say it's not a comic book, it's a graphic novel.
Speaker 2 (08:42):
Shut up. Comic is. Comic book is less pretentious.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
It's what they are when when you jam them together
into like a bound volume.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
You can call them whatever you want. I don't care,
yeah whatever. But the fact is is that there are
there are action sequences. And so.
Speaker 3 (08:56):
Now we're going to say, well, they were fascinated by
this art. That means that they definitely did this crime.
Stop right, right. I hope you never watched Beavis and
butthead and there butt heead was it?
Speaker 2 (09:08):
Oh? It's Beavis, the one who says fire, fire, fire,
right right, yeah.
Speaker 3 (09:12):
Come on, people, let's just let's just dial it back,
just dial it back and be like, can you believe
that he did this? And of course you know the
police are going to say we found this. It's more
reason not to question our work. And media is like, oh,
look at this guy, he did this thing. But and
again it looks like they have plenty of other evidence
(09:33):
pointing to this particular Florida man, which, by the way, Florida,
don't export your Florida man crap to us. Please keep
your Florida man stuff to yourself. But do you remember
Richard Jewel the nineteen ninety six Olympic bombing.
Speaker 2 (09:46):
Of course Richard Jewel.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
He was a security guard that had access and when
they raided his house they found pornography, and everyone, oh, well,
he obviously was the bomber because that guy had porn.
Speaker 2 (09:59):
Come on on, come on, I just I don't like that.
I don't like it.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
What other chat GPT images did he have? Was it
only fire when you walked into his room? Was it
just a shrine to arson or did he did you
find an example of him making this? This this picture,
which could have been quite easily for his own personal
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graphic novel. He's a Florida man, he's very elite, of course.
Come on, I just I can't get on board with
this stuff. I just can't. I can't do it. There's
my uh, there's my hot takes for today.
Speaker 2 (10:41):
A hot take. I see what you did there, Thank you,
hot take about it. I'm glad you caught it. Nice
work on that, thank you. Uh did you happen to
see the unforced error by Katie Porter today? I've been
reading about it.
Speaker 3 (10:51):
Oh my gosh, Like how to sink a gubernatorial campaign
in one easy step?
Speaker 2 (10:58):
That is next.
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Speaker 2 (11:17):
So Katy Porter.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
Sat down with CBS and she was doing an interview,
and CBS is interviewing everybody that is looking to be
a governor, and they were asking her questions like what
do you say about this, and then when she would
say something, they did a follow up. And here's what
we know about Katy Porter. Now, do not ask Katie
Porter questions.
Speaker 8 (11:39):
She does not approve redistricting. What do you think of
the governor's plan?
Speaker 9 (11:43):
I support the governor's plan.
Speaker 8 (11:45):
What do you say to the forty percent of California
voters who you'll need in order to win, who voted
for Trump?
Speaker 9 (11:52):
How would I need them in order to win?
Speaker 10 (11:54):
So?
Speaker 8 (11:54):
Well, unless you think you're going to get sixty percent
of the vote, do you think you'll get sixty ps all,
everybody who did not vote for Trump will vote for you.
Speaker 9 (12:02):
That's what you're going a general election?
Speaker 3 (12:04):
Yes, okay. First of all, slight error by the interviewer.
She should have said you may need to win rather
than you will need to win. But just the same,
Katie Porter was not prepared to say I will work
across the aisle. Hey, what is it that every candidate
says when they're running from I will work across the aisle?
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Katie Porter repeat after me, I will work across the aisle.
I will work even if you don't mean it, I
will work across the aisle if it is.
Speaker 11 (12:36):
Me versus a Republican. I think that I will win
the people who did not.
Speaker 10 (12:40):
Vote for What if it's you versus another Democrat.
Speaker 9 (12:42):
I don't intend that to be the case.
Speaker 3 (12:45):
I mean, it's a jungle primary, so it absolutely could
be the case. What do you mean I don't intend
for that to be a case. I don't intend for
that to be the case.
Speaker 10 (12:54):
What so, how do you not intend that to be
the case? Do you do?
Speaker 7 (12:58):
You?
Speaker 10 (12:58):
Are you going to ask them not to run?
Speaker 11 (13:00):
You know, I'm saying I'm going to build the support.
I have the support already in terms of name recognition,
and so I'm going to do the very best I
can to make sure that we get through this primary
in a really strong position. But let me be clear
with you. I represented Orange County. I represented a purple area.
I have stood on my own two feet and one
Republican votes before. That's not something every candidate and this
race can say. If you're from a deep blue area,
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if you're from LA or you're from Oakland, you.
Speaker 10 (13:24):
Don't have an experience, then you don't need those Trump voters.
Speaker 2 (13:27):
Yeah, I mean, port you should have given that answer
to start with.
Speaker 11 (13:31):
You asked me if I needed them to win, So
you don't. I feel like this is unnecessarily argumentative.
Speaker 9 (13:36):
What is your question?
Speaker 10 (13:37):
The question is the same thing I asked everybody that
this is being called the empowering voters to stop Trump's
power graph. Every other candidate has answered this question. Is
it's not argument I support it.
Speaker 8 (13:49):
So And the question is what do you say to
the forty percent of voters who voted for Trump?
Speaker 11 (13:55):
Oh, I'm happy to say that. It's the do you
need them to win? Part that I don't understand. I'm
happy to answer the question. What's the question as you
haven't written, and I'll.
Speaker 3 (14:01):
Answer, Oh, this is the new popular thing is to
attack the reporter, isn't it. I mean, it's always been there,
but now I guess this is just the new.
Speaker 2 (14:12):
Huh.
Speaker 3 (14:13):
I wonder why the youngest generation doesn't want to get
into news and they want to just be podcasters.
Speaker 2 (14:17):
H wonder why.
Speaker 8 (14:19):
And we've also asked the other candidates, do you think
you need any of those forty percent of California voters
to win?
Speaker 10 (14:24):
And you're saying no, you don't.
Speaker 11 (14:25):
No, I'm saying I'm going to try to win every
vote I can. And what I'm saying to you is.
Speaker 3 (14:29):
That Okay, a couple of things going on. Let's talk
inner monologue for a moment. Do you think that Katie Porter,
her inner monologue is going oh don't oh, oh okay,
this just became argumentative. I can either bring it back
and make it congenial, or I can acknowledge this argumentative
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and then blame the reporter.
Speaker 2 (14:53):
That's what's going on in her inner monologue.
Speaker 3 (14:55):
As the reporter goes, let me just tell you how
this works. Reporter at first is taken aback by Katie Porter. Uh,
jumping at it like WHOA didn't seem like a tough question.
And then as Katie Porter kept digging herself a hole,
the reporter kept thinking, Oh this is good. Oh this
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is going viral. That's how the inner monologues work between
those two people, well.
Speaker 10 (15:21):
To those voters.
Speaker 11 (15:22):
Okay, so you I don't want to keep doing it
because I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 9 (15:25):
Thank you, I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 10 (15:28):
You're not gonna do the interview with them.
Speaker 9 (15:30):
It's not like this.
Speaker 11 (15:30):
I'm not not with seven follow ups to every single
question you ask.
Speaker 3 (15:34):
Outstanding Porter's like I'm going to make a statement. I'm
going to bail on this, and the reporter's like, oh,
oh god, bless it. This is amazing. I'm watching someone's
political career self destruct right in front of me.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
This is going on my reel.
Speaker 10 (15:51):
Every other candidate has answered calls.
Speaker 9 (15:53):
I don't care.
Speaker 11 (15:54):
I want to have a pleasant, positive conversation which you
asked me about every issue on this list. And if
every question that you're going to make up a follow
up question, then we're never going to get there.
Speaker 12 (16:04):
Uh.
Speaker 2 (16:05):
I'm pretty sure that's how journalism works, mister.
Speaker 9 (16:08):
We're just going to circle A R A and hesitative
had to.
Speaker 10 (16:10):
Do this before ever, You've never had.
Speaker 9 (16:13):
To have an conversation in order.
Speaker 10 (16:17):
Okay, but every other candidate has done this.
Speaker 11 (16:19):
What part of I'm me? I'm reading for governor because
I'm a leader.
Speaker 2 (16:23):
So yeah, sounds like I am going to.
Speaker 8 (16:25):
Make So you're not going to answer questions from reporters.
Speaker 10 (16:28):
Okay, why don't we go through?
Speaker 8 (16:30):
I will continue to ask follow up questions because that's
my job as a journalist, but I will go through
and ask these and if you don't want to answer,
you don't want to answer.
Speaker 3 (16:38):
Oh that was a good move by the journalist. So
she is giving porter more rope. Here you go I
see that you're already swinging by your neck, but you're
still gasping.
Speaker 2 (16:47):
Let me just see if I can.
Speaker 8 (16:48):
Finish the job so nearly every legislative.
Speaker 9 (16:51):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
With you, and I don't want to have an unhappy
experience with you. Oh. I think Katie Porter trying to
break up with.
Speaker 9 (17:00):
Media, and I don't want this on on camera.
Speaker 8 (17:02):
I don't want to have an unhappy experience with you either.
I would love to continue to ask these questions so
that we can show our viewers what every candidate feels
about every one of these issues that they care about.
Speaker 3 (17:12):
What do you think she meant by I don't want
to have this on camera. Okay, that's where the inner
monologue went. Uh oh, doubling down was the wrong choice.
Now it's out there. Uh oh, it's on tape. You're screwed.
I don't want this camera. I'm a leader, you know.
I want to be the leader.
Speaker 8 (17:29):
And redistricting it's a massive issue. We're going to do
an entire story just on the responses to that question,
and I asked everybody the same follow up questions.
Speaker 2 (17:36):
That was it game over? Huh oh?
Speaker 3 (17:42):
So Porter keeps challenging the questions themselves. She keeps getting
upset about it. Former staffer, remember, did accuse Porter in
the past of verbal abuse and retaliation.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
Porter denied those claims so that they were politically motivated.
So it's your fault. The reporter made me look bad.
Speaker 3 (18:00):
Of course, those allegations are are catching more traction again
after this meltdown.
Speaker 2 (18:07):
Truly tremendous.
Speaker 3 (18:08):
You just watched You watched a politician and I don't
know if she stood a chance of winning the governor's
race at all. I'm gonna say she didn't. But uh, you
just watch your seal her own fate. That's what just happened.
And you're gonna be able to go, oh, we will
be referring to this, this own goal for decades like, oh,
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well they really portered themselves. There, we're turning Porter into
a verb. Ooh, did this gubernatorial candidate just porter themselves?
That's the future of Katie Porter, now, that's it. Well,
she could become president. I thought the same thing, honestly, Mark,
I thought the same thing. I thought, Oh, arguing with
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the reporter looking bad and then saying the reporter made
me do it.
Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yeah, that's enough. To get you.
Speaker 3 (18:57):
I wonder if there's any precedent for this kind of
behavior journalists.
Speaker 2 (19:02):
Yes, have you ever seen this happen before? Is their
precedent for this?
Speaker 3 (19:06):
Who has lashed out a journalists in the recent past
that we could possibly point to out of the California's
gonna stand for it. We're gonna hear from one of
the other gubernatorial candidates who's running against Porter in the
primary and get the reaction there. That is next time,
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Speaker 1 (19:23):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (19:28):
Chris Merrell.
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Remember you can grab us anytime on demand the iHeart
Radio app. Katie Porter had a total meltdown talking with
a CBS interviewer. The interviewer asked how she planned to
win over Trump voters, and Porter said, how would I
need them to win, ma'am? And then it was just
a couple of moments later, after some back and forth
that we heard this, Oh, come on, go, why is
(19:54):
my stuff not working?
Speaker 2 (19:55):
Now? Guys?
Speaker 9 (19:56):
I don't want to keep doing it because I'm gonna
call it.
Speaker 3 (19:57):
I don't know why I'm gonna blame Richie for breaking
my Richie, why'd you do that?
Speaker 9 (20:02):
I don't want to keep doingness. I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 2 (20:07):
Like that.
Speaker 3 (20:07):
Richie's like, yeah, whatever, I'm breaking the next sound it
was one hundred percent me. Yeah, I don't want to
keep doing this. So she just says, I'm out.
Speaker 9 (20:17):
I don't want to keep doing this. I'm gonna call it.
Speaker 2 (20:20):
Joining us. Right now is Stephen J.
Speaker 3 (20:21):
Klubeck. He's a candidate for governor as well as a
Democrat running against Porter in the primaries. Mister Kluebec, I'm
going to call it the end of her political aspirations.
That interview was it? That was her Ducaucus in the
tank moment. That was her Howard Dean's scream moment. Did
you read anything.
Speaker 7 (20:41):
Else rest in piece, Kadie Porter?
Speaker 2 (20:45):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (20:46):
It was not great man, it was I mean, would
you said that was there? Was there a little bit
of you that felt like even a little bit of
a sympathy for us, because at one point I'm watching
herself destruct and I'm thinking, oh no, oh, I like
I felt pity.
Speaker 7 (21:04):
No, because because she is who she is, So the
costume came off.
Speaker 2 (21:12):
Yeah, I guess that's fair.
Speaker 7 (21:13):
That's the that's the authentic, that's the authentic, Katie Porter.
Everyone got to be unapologetically authentic. That's what we're missing today.
Speaker 3 (21:22):
You'll run some big companies, right, I mean, surely there
have been heated expansions in your companies before. I mean,
there's got to be a limit between like pushing somebody
or pushing back and completely self destructing.
Speaker 7 (21:36):
But I sat for an hour with Julie Watts at CBS,
as she did with every other candidate, and at the
end of the is she asked tough questions.
Speaker 2 (21:48):
She has tough.
Speaker 7 (21:48):
Questions, and I answered all the questions candidly, with integrity
and unapologetically. And you know, she told me that I
sound like all the Republicans. I said, I'm a Californian.
Speaker 2 (22:02):
Yeah, I get that.
Speaker 7 (22:03):
What can I tell you? It's it's a complement. I'm
a Reagan Democrat. I'm old school, and you know, I'm
not a politician. But look, there's no excuse for that.
There's no excuse for that. The customers of California deserve
more better. And there's nine months left till the primary
and things will shake out. You know, we hope for
the best for California because California is too great of
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a state. I mean, I didn't expect to do this.
I mean I literally interviewed every candidate and there was
not one I could back. And I'm trained by you know,
Bill Clinton, Harry Reid, my adopted dad. Yeah, I just
this is not easy. California is a workout. It's a
business workout. It really needs skills of a business person,
(22:49):
business leader fixed. What's broken?
Speaker 3 (22:51):
Is there an opportunity from just from a political standpoint,
Stephen J. Klubeck is joining me right now, gubernatorial candidate.
Is there an opportunity from from a political standpoint to
sort of capitalize on this because you know, oh, your
opponents are going to try to make Hay well the sun.
Speaker 2 (23:03):
Is up on this. Oh.
Speaker 7 (23:06):
I mean I played my interview with Julie against Katie
Porter's interview and it was just you can look at it,
go to my instagram.
Speaker 2 (23:15):
Stephen J.
Speaker 7 (23:16):
Kouban at night and day. I mean, just you have
a respect for reporters. Reporters have to ask tough questions,
and you answer the question, you know, unapologetically, authentically, with integrity,
and if you don't know the answer, you say, I
don't know, but you don't push back like that. You're
leading the fourth largest economy of the world, and that's
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what this horse race is about, because you know, we
got to the leaders. Leaders have to protect our life safety.
They have to know how to sign the front of
a check. Great jobs, deliver performance and results. That's how
leaders lead and you can't be compromised. And unfortunately the
politicians that we have in this great state are all carareists.
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They think they're entitled to this, and you've got to
roll up your sleeves.
Speaker 2 (24:06):
That's a fair assessment. Stephen J. Klubeck is joining me
right now, gubernatorial candidate.
Speaker 3 (24:09):
We're talking about Katie Porter's meltdown in the interview with
CBS News. They are career politicians, but I would also
say that that may give them an advantage when it
comes to metaphorical combat in the political arena. What have
you noticed? Obviously, you're a successful businessman, You've got I mean,
you've done very well. So what are you noticing is
(24:29):
like the biggest difference between running a business and then
trying to run a campaign. Certainly there's similarities, but there's
got to be some glaring differences.
Speaker 7 (24:39):
Oh well, I've I've been around forty years and watched.
But I ran tourism in the United States. I worked
for the White House for three years. I created Brand
New USA, the Tourism Department of the United States. I've
been a regulator. I ran, you know, the largest athletic
commission in the world. So and I passed laws. So
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the problem is most business people don't want to get
involved in the politics because it's a nasty business. It's
the blood sport. And you know, they're great leaders that
we have just don't want to touch it because there's
no money in it. It's really selfless and you have
to be at the right place in your life to
even want to do it. And we need more business
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leaders actually have that have done well they get involved
in politics and policy. California would be better off, the
world wouldn't be better off. And when I investigated this race,
there was no succession. We haven't created great leaders. So, frankly,
shame on the last three governors for not creating great leaders.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
Well, how come it's not very often we have somebody
that's been a very successful businessman like yourself and then
running as a as a Democrat. Why don't we see
more business leaders who are gravitating toward the left side
of the political aisle, is it?
Speaker 2 (25:53):
I mean, is it expediency and tells what's what's the deal?
Speaker 7 (25:57):
Well, because I grew up in the San Fern and
a valley and I was a Democrat since I was
eighteen years old, and the Democratic Party was ranked Democrat.
It was it was conservative, middle of the road, blue
dog Democrat. It was called we're business leaders, and we
led when we were fighters and we protected and we
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had integrity. And the Democratic Party everyone says it's woke. No,
I think it got weak and we need brass balls.
Where's the brass balls. I'm gonna come on. We've got
to be a protector and a fighter.
Speaker 3 (26:30):
Stephen Jay Klubec, candidate for Governor, In response to what
Katie Porter did with the CBS News interview.
Speaker 2 (26:38):
Mister Luebeck, thank you so much, appreciate you taking it.
Thank you, Thanks buddy, appreciate that my pleasure. Be well bye,
thank you, thank you so much. Hey, well there's a
guy that knows about resorts.
Speaker 3 (26:48):
We'll talk a little bit about the big one that's
coming to California that's coming up here after eight o'clock.
Speaker 2 (26:52):
And uh, is it possible.
Speaker 3 (26:54):
We could be seeing an end to the government shutdown
starting right here in southern California. It's entirely possible. The
catalyst is someplace you've already been. That is next time
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Speaker 4 (27:10):
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Speaker 2 (27:18):
Uh. Oh, Mark, you did.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
You have the news about the We've got peace in
the Middle East now, finally it's been two thousand years.
I believe Trump has announced that Israel and Hamas have
signed off on the first phase of it. No, it's done.
Oh my mistake. Yeah, did I not jump the gun enough?
Oh they're they're they're getting together in the the and
that Actually what I saw is that the first phase
is the coming together.
Speaker 2 (27:41):
Phase two is when they sing kumbayah. Okay, Well that's happening. Yeah.
We strive for accuracy. Yeah. Hamas is working on a
come bay gotcha, gotcha? Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 3 (27:52):
It's kind of great though that the hostages are getting back.
I mean, I'm like, I can't even imagine if you're
a family member and you've just every night, how do
you even sleep?
Speaker 2 (28:01):
For the last two years, how do you even sleep?
Just horrible.
Speaker 3 (28:04):
So I'm really really happy to see that this has
that this is happening. It's a it's all good news,
it's all good and I hope it holds.
Speaker 2 (28:12):
I do. I genuinely hope that it holds.
Speaker 3 (28:15):
Will it be enough to get Trump the Nobel Peace Prize?
And how long will he wait before he says he
deserves it? On truth social anybody want to guess I'm
gonna stay out of this if you don't mind, Oh, yeah.
Speaker 2 (28:28):
That's fine. Is that alright with you?
Speaker 3 (28:29):
Well, he said that this was the first step towards strong,
durable and everlasting piece.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
So we've got it. We're done done. I hope so,
and I hope so.
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Be curious to see how this continues to play out,
because you know that there's gonna be some toes stepped on.
Hopefully it doesn't devolve into something horrific again. Meanwhile, back home,
our government continues to remain shut down. M I think
that could end all because of southern California, because specifically
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the Burbank Airport.
Speaker 13 (29:04):
For now, those air traffic controllers are going to be
back out of work this morning here at Hollywood Burbank Airport,
but the Federals.
Speaker 2 (29:10):
This is from Katla this morning.
Speaker 13 (29:11):
Aviation Administration warning this morning that those concerns are far
from over. There are expected delays and cancelations not only
here at Burbank, but also at airports nationwide. In fact,
travel experts also saying passengers need to be ready because
these problems are just getting started.
Speaker 2 (29:28):
This is just the beginning.
Speaker 13 (29:29):
In fact, this morning, eight major airports across the country,
including Las Vegas, Houston, Dallas, Chicago, Boston, Atlanta, Nashville, and
even Nework are experiencing air traffic control tower staffing issues.
The control tower workers who guide planes into and out
of those airports are calling in sick. That's because they
won't be getting paid until this shutdown ends on Monday night.
Speaker 3 (29:52):
The oh, let's do some irresponsible speculation. What will the
narrative be if we have a plane crash? But don't
want to guess? Oh my goodness, Oh, the politicians be
pointing fingers all over the place.
Speaker 2 (30:07):
Oh, it's their fault. No, it's their fault. No, it's
their fault. No, it's their fault. No they did it. No,
they did it.
Speaker 3 (30:12):
Oh my goodness, isn't everything still President Biden's fault with
regardable transportation. Here's the one thing I do know is
that a number of these air traffic controllers were found
in Hunter Biden's laptop.
Speaker 2 (30:25):
So you know, we're gonna get to the bottom of that.
Many many people are telling me that.
Speaker 3 (30:29):
Yeah, if you've paid attention to Sean Duffy in his interviews, Okay,
well there's let's just end that sentence in the middle. Nope, yep, nope, nope.
I think this could be the end of the of
the shutdown. Here's why I heard the promo that Bill
handle was talking about. He talked about the longest shutdown
in American history was under Trump's first term. Do you
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know when the shortest shut down in American history happened?
Speaker 2 (30:54):
Mark? Do you know this? Off the top of your hand?
Speaker 3 (30:55):
I don't what is it? It was also during Trump's
first urn? How many total or under? I think he
had four?
Speaker 2 (31:01):
Yeah? Four?
Speaker 7 (31:02):
Four?
Speaker 2 (31:02):
Okay, I got it right. Oh, look at that, thank you,
But that right off the top? Does anybody else have four?
Did Reagan have three? Anyway?
Speaker 3 (31:13):
I'll do the math. Okay, thanks man, I appreciate that.
So Reagan did have the same problem. The air traffic
controllers union went on strike. He fired eleven thousand of
those back in eighty one, if you'll recall, and very controversial.
Speaker 2 (31:25):
And it it made all kinds of hell.
Speaker 3 (31:29):
Right during Trump shutdown twenty nineteen, you had a number
of controllers that called out sick, specifically in New York
at LaGuardia, and there were hundreds of flights delayed, and
that made Trump mad and he said, okay, it's time
to be done. I We've got Hollywood. Burbank is the
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first and worst example. Right when all eighth we had
eight eight. Okay, so there you go, Mark, Jimmy Carter
had five. Oh no kidding, I didn't realize it was
that many. Yeah, but they none of them lasted thirty
five days. Most of them were two days. I think
the average is to point eight or something. I did
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the math on this a while back. Anyway, where was
I I don't know, do we have a commercial ready
to go?
Speaker 8 (32:19):
Oh?
Speaker 2 (32:19):
Stop?
Speaker 3 (32:20):
My watch is talking to me out love that anyway,
So we have the first shutdown here where we have
no air traffic controllers at Hollywood, Burbank. And obviously it's
very difficult to communicate and not crash when you don't
have the air traffic controllers. And so now we're seeing
this happen elsewhere. I think this is going to be
the thing that pushes people and we go, we don't care.
Speaker 2 (32:43):
Just get the government open. I can see that happening.
And what are we at? Seven day? Eight days? We're
at eight days now.
Speaker 3 (32:51):
I don't know that this one's gonna last thirty five days.
I don't know that it's gonna happen. I also hope
it doesn't because I have a flight on the twenty fifth,
and I really so, I'm gonna be very under.
Speaker 2 (33:04):
On this one's gonna be ooh good one, oh man?
Do we need to take a break to actually think
about this? Wait? Are we betting? Are replacing bets? I'm done?
We don't bet. We don't bet? We we we we bet? Well,
I don't know if we're illegally allowed to bet? I
bet okay, I bet we don't get caught making illegal
bets on this?
Speaker 7 (33:24):
All right?
Speaker 2 (33:24):
What do you think?
Speaker 3 (33:25):
How long is this gonna last? Let's go. Anybody want
to jump in.
Speaker 2 (33:32):
I'm gonna go with seventeen days. Sam says, seventeen. Where
did you get that figure? But that's what that's exactly
what I thought.
Speaker 3 (33:41):
Oh yeah, I have no idea because there's so many
different factors that you got to figure into this. I'll
just pick a random number that's gonna last three weeks,
all right, So twenty one if that's random, and I
and I have no reason to believe that it could
be true. Did Richie skip out yet? I can't see
and it was I can't see his camera. He's running
back in. Oh okay, he said, who's Ricky?
Speaker 2 (34:04):
I said, Richie? Did I say Ricky? Yeah? No I didn't.
It's all good, Bill, It's Ricky now, that's fine.
Speaker 3 (34:12):
It's Ricky now, Ricky, Ricky?
Speaker 2 (34:18):
Where's Ricky? You've got to quell this revolt.
Speaker 3 (34:20):
I love this? All right, Richie? How many days the
government gonna be shut down? He says, fifteen?
Speaker 2 (34:27):
All right? Fifteen? Does now?
Speaker 3 (34:30):
The let me see last week this week is fifteen?
Is a really good guess. Dang, would you just would
you say, Sam? You said seventeen? I said seventeen.
Speaker 2 (34:39):
Yeah he did.
Speaker 3 (34:40):
The price is right thing and just undercut Sam by
two days it's not prices.
Speaker 2 (34:43):
Right rules. How long we.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Got the seventeen more days until my flight? Uh seventeen
plus the anthe wing Fintan's twenty five. We don't want
to go that long. Let's go Uh dang, I'm like seventeen.
I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go on the low side.
I'm gonna go twelve. I'm gonna say we get the
sucker wrapped up.
Speaker 2 (35:05):
End of this week. Oh, that's bold over the weekend. Twelve. Yep,
I'm gonna go twelve.
Speaker 3 (35:10):
There it is so now, you know, from the greatest
authorities on the matter, Mark sam Me Ricky. Yeah, we
have no idea if I actually did, Clay Ricky, I'm
really sorry.
Speaker 2 (35:28):
I didn't mean that at all.
Speaker 12 (35:29):
It's all good. Yeah, welcome to show biz kid. Sorry, buddy,
I feel like such a tit when I do that.
All right, forget going to Vegas. You're just gonna be
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