July 21, 2025 • 36 mins
Chris talks Donald Trump lashing out against his own supporters, calling them gullible “weaklings” for questioning the transparency of a secretive government inquiry into the late high-profile socialite and sex offender Jeffrey Epstein, and Trump filed a lawsuit for $10 billion against the Wall Street Journal and Rupert Murdoch, accusing WSJ of defaming him with an article about a lewd birthday letter to Epstein the outlet said bore Trump's signature and so much more. It's all on KFIAM-640!
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand, not
I mean.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Chris Merril ki AM six forty more stimulating talk live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app Let me just take againder here.
I was thinking about, let's think about all the Epstein
crap that's going down, although actually I wanted to hit
some some of your talkbacks first, but all this Epstein
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stuff is not really going away. And this has been
This has been problematic for the President, who normally can
just say there's nothing to see here, move on, and
then everybody goes, Okay, I guess we'll move on. And
as much as some people want to keep asking questions
about different issues, inevitably his legions say now we're not
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talking about that. We're moving on. But when it comes
to Epstein, he's had some issues with that. So a
little bit about how that's evolved this week, a bit
of a a recap, and then sort of a preview
of what you can expect going into the following week.
We asked the question, what's the biggest mistake you ever made?
Excuse me? We were discussing this dude in Brentwood who
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who seems to be a serial impersonator even have bought
a fire truck so we can get into the Palisades fire.
Why why would you do that?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
You would use a fire truck to enter across the
lines so that way you can rob the houses because
they think you're a fire department, and that's why you're
back where all the fire is. Okay, you steal all
the stuff before the fire comes through and wipes out
the house, and then ensure it takes it off there.
Who knows lots of money?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, I'm with you. I agree that could be a
motivation for doing it, except that the dude lives in Brentwood,
he's the CEO of a company. There's nothing that would
indicate he needs the money, so is it simply for adventure.
There's also no indication that he took anything yet. Now
that doesn't mean and that's not gonna those details aren't
going to come out, and who knows, there could be
other details that he's completely broke because he spent his
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money in a fire truck. I don't know just did.
Something's not adding up to me because something's not quite
right on that, and I think I think the guy's
got to screw loose upstairs. But then we were talking
about there's like used fire truck websites. I had no idea.
I thought you had to show that you actually were
a fire department in order to to buy a fire truck.
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I know that when I was younger, I studied emergency medicine,
and so we used to get the catalogs had like
the sirens and first responder stuff in it, and oh,
you're you're good, Kayla. They didn't let me in. You're
fine now, they said I was. They said I would
be a terrible first responder, so you're safe. Yeah. But
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I was headed toward that career for a while, and
then I got into radio. So obviously there's another huge
mistake I've made in my life. But I was I
was looking at the fire trucks. How do you even
get your hands on a fire truck? Because I thought
you had to be a registered department or some sort.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Hey, Chris, you know, sometimes small rural areas, either up
in the mountains or out in small little communities that
are off the grid, they have their own volunteer fire departments,
and oftentimes they might need a fire rig to add
to their equipment, and getting one that's previously been owned
and used, and then they referbed that thing and now
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they have some equipment in case they have to fight
a fire.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, I get you.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I just thought i'd let you know.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, I understand the reason for buying is some of
the fire trucks that I was seeing for the used
fire fire truck, fire equipment again whatever, it was so
old that there's I don't know, if you're a rural department,
you wouldn't spend the money on it. And I know
this in large part because I actually own a home
in an area that only has volunteer fire. So my
wife and I have a place near my hometown in
No lordn Michigan. It is where she spends summer and
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then she leaves me to deal with the lunacy of
the summertime here. But she's there near the shores of
Lake Michigan, and we have this nice, little, very very modest.
Don't think I have beautiful lake home or anything crazy.
It's very modest. But she's there, my family's there. It's fantastic.
The fire department is all volunteer and they do buy
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used or reconditioned fire equipment. Many of the different township
departments too, so I understand exactly what you're saying. The
ones I was seeing on the site, though, the really
old ones. Nobody's buying a nineteen eighty five ladder truck
for ten grand, because that's more trouble. And the last
thing you want is a volunteer firefighter because they take
their jobs very seriously. Even if it is a volunteer,
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they do not want to be driving a Jelopi and
they worry about the ladder networking. All right, more of
your questions here on the talkback coming up in just
a few moments. What is the worst decision you ever made?
And light of the Coldplay kiss cam CEO hr director debacle,
what's the time that you really made a boneheaded move?
Hit us up on the talk back on the iHeartRadio app.
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So earlier this week, the Epstein stuff wouldn't go away,
and President Trump's said this is a vast left wing conspiracy.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Amid the fallout over his administration's handling of the Jeffrey
Epstein files. President Trump isn't just hoping people move on,
He's demanding so, claiming Democrats are inciting the pressure and
calling his supporters pressing for more information stupid.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
The sad part is it's people that are really doing
the Democrats work.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
There's stupid people. Let me tell you what people love
to hear. They love to hear after they've supported you
for the last ten years, how stupid they are. I'm this.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That was a.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Terrible thing for him to say, Really a terrible deal.
That was a This is already an own goal, and
he compounded it when he started calling people stupid and weak,
the people who have supported him all along, mostly because
he's the guy that said he was going to out
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these files.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I love to poorly educate it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
See he's called people done before and it hasn't really
thank you guys, it hasn't really hurt. But now I'm
telling you this is this is a bigly mistake, huge
own goal.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Throughout then candidate Trump's campaign, influential Trump supporters and several
of his closest allies alleged to the Epstein files were
a cover up by Democrats.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Seriously, we need to release the f Stein list. You're stupid.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Epstein, a convicted.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Oh I'm sorry that the President said you're very.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Stupid sex offender who died in jail awaiting trial for
sex trafficking charges during Trump's first term has since been
the subject of a slew of conspiracy theories. The Trump
campaign embraced some of them, and earlier this year, the
DOJ released binders to a group of influencers, calling it
the Epstein Files. Phase one followed by the most transparent
administration in history. Those files released were not new there
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was no phase two. In a memo last week, the DOJ.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, remember when they said we're going to release the
files and then they came out and everybody's like, there's
nothing in here. Yeah, welcome.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
In a memo last week, the DOJ and FBI concluded,
among other things, that there is no incriminating client list
and confirmed Epstein died by suicide.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Okay, first, let's address this real quick. Whether or not
there is a log book with a bunch of names
written down on it is immaterial. We know that there
was sex trafficking. We know that there were victims. We
know that there were under age victims because uh Gizlane
Maxwell is in prison for this stuff. And we know
then that there are rapists, right, We know this. Whether
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or not there's an actual diary of a list is immaterial.
We know that there are people who are rapists that
the DOJ seems not interested in following up on. And
had they just simply said, we're still trying to track
these people down. We're we're still trying to build our case,
whatever it is, they could have kept pushing this one
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down the road, like in the first term when Trump
everybody wanted to see his taxes and they were all
convinced there was something on the taxes, something on the taxes, something,
and then finally we get kind of a look at
some old taxes and you realize there actually is nothing
on the taxes. It was all much to do about nothing.
He didn't have to release He didn't have to make
a big deal out of that, but he did. If
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his name is not on here, then why are you
making a big deal out of it. It reminds me of
the taxes. Don't do that to yourself. But if your
name is in the files, and they quite possibly could be,
because we knew that he and Epstein used to party
together in the early two thousand and nineties, in the
two thousands, But if there's nothing that says that he
was doing untoward things to young girls, just release it.
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But then you don't, and it looks like you're covering
something up, just like it did with the taxes.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
The calls for transparency now echoing on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Listen, I think everything that can be released consistent with
the prosecution should be released.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Trump has asked Attorney General Pam Bondi to release any
additional credible files, though it's unclear what that entails, if anything.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, especially, I mean that going to be phase two.
They already said no.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
And yesterday the DOJ fired attorney Marine Comy, who successfully
prosecuted Epstein associate Glene Maxwell. She's also the daughter of
former FBI director James Comy, who Trump fired in his
first term. Yeah, Christian Cordero, ABC News Washington, thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So he fired the prosecutor who actually got Gislane fired her,
but that was Comy's daughter. So did you fire because
it's Kmy's daughter, or you fire because she knows about
the the Epstein stuff? Right? These are continued own goals,
which is why did you know that you could? Earlier
this week I saw this, You could put a bet
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down on who was going to be named in the
Epstein files. See what people were betting on, or rather
I will share with you what people were betting on
in just a few moments. And why now Trump is
turning on another one of his longtime supporters and how
that's going to play out. That's next. Chris merril caff
I Am six to forty were Live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app Chris Merril caff six forty more stimulating talk.
(10:03):
He's talking about the Newsom here segment back and Newsom
was he's ripping on the president and he's talking about
how terrible the president is. And then I was discussing
that Newsom sure seems to be uh talking a lot
about national stuff, tying it of course to California because
he can then say I'm the governor. I had to
do this. But then he says, hey, this is gonna
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happen everywhere. Sounds an awful lot like a campaign.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Hey, Chris, it's Vernon Ridondo. I'll tell you what dippity
Doo was doing in South Carolina, the same thing bas
did with her Ice stump, avoiding the press conference in
the Palisades and addressing the issues of people really suffering
instead of having.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Women bond and hint over ba Okay, all right, he's
a just campaign, Hey, Chris. The show it's always entertaining
and it's always informative. Just a real quick side note,
it is still not too late to get into crypto.
Oh yeah, we were talking about crypto earlier. I was
talking about the worst decision I ever made. My wife
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made me sell all the crypto stuff I had in
like twenty eighteen or I think it was about twenty eighteen,
and I was into it then. I'm not really into
it now, but yeah, that one costs us some money.
But at the time it was costing me a lot
of money that I was doing the whole mining thing
and trading, and it was costing money at the time.
Speaker 9 (11:32):
In fact, if I were you, I'd be dumping quite
a bit of money into bitcoin and a little less
so in Ethereum.
Speaker 10 (11:38):
Okay, because I've been in this game now for thirteen years.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And oh this still a long, long long way to
go playing it. Run way, buddy, you're not too late,
all right, this guy let me tell you something, Kayla.
Get this guy's number, because he's rich, he's been doing
this stuff. Yet. If he's been doing this for thirteen years,
he was he was buying in when when bitcoin was
like three hundred bucks. Oh yeah, he said, he's loaded
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Diet his number. You're gonna want that?
Speaker 11 (12:08):
Yeah, okay, yes, I'm going to email him and shoot
my shot right now.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Good for you. Good for I like that idea. I
feel like we've done some good work today. I didn't
realize this that you know Polymarket. Are you familiar with
Polly Market. They let you bet on all kinds of
crazy stuff. So you can bet on the presidential winner
right now for twenty twenty eight, according to their market.
By the way, Jade Vance leads. Gavin Newsom is in second.
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You can bet on who the nominees are going to be.
You can bet on whether or not the Fed will
raise the interest rates in July. You can bet on
whether or not Trump will fire Jerome Powell. You can
bet on the Coldplay CEO getting divorced. You can bet
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on whether or not the Epstein files are going to
be made public. Well, Polly Market allowed you to bet
on who would be named in the Epstein fire and
they had that market open until the end of June.
That's before the DOJ came out and said they weren't
going to release the files at all. Names that were
that the betters thought were on the list. All right,
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Tony Blair, remember the former PM of the UK. Let
me see Alec Baldwin. People thought his name would be
on the list. David Coke, They thought his name would
be on the list, Kevin Spacey, Henry Kissinger, Prince Andrew.
That one was pretty obvious, right in fact, ninety over
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ninety nine percent chance people thought he was on the list.
Alan Dershowitz over ninety nine percent chances people thought he
was on the list. Name I didn't think would be
there David Copperfield. I thought that was interesting. People thought
Michael Jackson's name would be on that list, and they
thought overwhelmingly Donald Trump's name would be on that list.
Those that people thought the majority thought would not be
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on the list Anderson Cooper, Quentin Tarantino, Bernie Sanders, Rachel
al Gore, Stephen Colbert, AOC, Robert Donney, Junior, Chuck Schumer.
I mean, just listen names, Tom Hanks, I don't know
why his name keeps coming up with this, Oprah jay Z.
Number of names that people were betting on but they
thought would not be on there. But Trump people thought
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overwhelmingly would be on that list. We may never find out,
because now they're going to say, well, we're going to
ask the DOJ. The DOJ is going to ask a
judge to release some of that info. You know, it's
all up to the courts. So what are we gonna
do about it. That's what they should have said to
start with, we want to release it, but it's the
courts have tied our hands on it. That's what they
should have been saying, but they didn't, and they're saying
case closed. We're not doing any more investigations. This is
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not going away. People are not going to be satisfied
with the quote unquote most transparent administration ever, which every
administration says, giving up on following known rapists. We know
that there were rapists going to the island. That's not
a question. That's not up for debate. We know that
there were six crimes committed on Epstein Island, and you're
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not gonna you're not gonna try to track that down. Huh.
In the meantime, the Wall Street Journal puts out what
is purported to be a birthday letter that Trump sent
to Jeffrey Epstein for his fiftieth birthday in two thousand
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and three. I didn't realize Epstein was that old. He
was seventy seventy one or something right when he offed
himself almost seventy in that neighborhood. Didn't really that, I
don't anyway. In this Trump said allegedly that they had
some secrets together, and then it was attached to a
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picture of a naked lady that he drew, and Trump said,
I don't do that.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
The Justice Department request follows a report in The Wall
Street Journal that a quote body letter bearing Trump's name
is included in an album from dozens of Epstein's associates
to celebrate his fiftieth birthday in two thousand and three.
The journal reports the letter contains several lines of typewritten
text framed in the outline of a naked woman drawn
in heavy marker, including in a mac.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Nobody I've never used a heavy marker in my.
Speaker 9 (16:13):
Life imaginary exchange between Trump and Epstein. The president told
the journal Tuesday evening quote, this is not me.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
This is a fake thing.
Speaker 9 (16:20):
I never wrote a picture in my life, never.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Wrote a picture, never used a heavy pen, heavy marker.
Never happened. Ever.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
I don't draw pictures of women. It's not my language,
it's not my words. That I might believe and threatened
to sue the Wall Street Journal, which shares ownership with
Fox News. Fox News has not independently confirmed the truth
of the Wall Street Journal's claims about the letter.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Court filing show this afternoon, President Trump did file a
lawsuit over that Wall Street Journal article. Fox News has
asked the White House for comment at the White House
Rich Edson Fox News.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And of course, when he says I never wrote a
picture before, then it takes like zero points zero seconds
for people to find pictures that he's drawn and actually
sold it things like charity auctions. So either he's lying
now when he says he's he doesn't draw pictures, he's
never written a picture before, I don't write I've never
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wrote a picture, or he was lying when he signed
to the other pictures that were then sold at at
charity auctions when he said he did that. So which
is you were committing fraud back then, or are you
just lying to us now now that you're not under oath,
which which is it? Right? So that's not great. Just
for context, Trump did sue Bob Woodward over a book
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that Woodward put out. It's kind of a sneaky thing.
He was mad that Woodward put out a book that
he said was it didn't make him look very good,
and so what they use for an angle? He says, Uh,
Bob Woodwork can't put that book out. He didn't claim defamation.
He claimed, Uh, we were supposed to co auth through
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that together, and he backed out of the deal. That
judge has dismissed the case. So that didn't go over
very well. I think I think what happens with the
Wall Street Journal is not going to go over very well.
I'd love to see it go on. I can't wait
to see discovery in that one. I hope it happens
all right. AI AI AI is it ruining your life,
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taking your job? Chances are it's doing the exact opposite.
That's next, Chris Merril KFI AM six forty. We're live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Chris Merril KFI AM six forty more stimulating thoughts on
demand anytime in the iHeartRadio app. This whole AI boom
is it's good for California because it's creating a lot
of creating a lot of jobs for the Silicon Valley.
For all the tech smarties that are out there, And
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then there's questions about is californ when you're going to
regulate AI kind of a tricky situation because we're seeing
a lot of AI coming out of places like Amazon
or Microsoft Seattle area. Certainly we've got some things happening
in Silicon Valley as well with Meta. But how much
regulation does California want to put on AI? And if
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we put regulation on AI, is that going to translate nationwide?
Or are you going to have other companies that are
trying to poach some of our some of our what
do they call it? Intellectual properties? So are our brainy acts?
Are they going to try to do that? I was
looking at a it was an interview that was done
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with the CEO of Nvidia, Jensen Wong is his name,
and I was fascinated by this. I was fascinated because
it's what I've been saying all along. I'm very smart man.
I keep telling my kids that I'm a very smart man.
You have to listen to I'm a very smart man.
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Don't don't doubt my brilliance. I tell this to Kayla
all the time too. She rolls her eyes at me.
But Kayla, when have I ever been wrong? That's right? Okay,
that's right, you got it right the first time. Yep,
very good. There was a guy he's dead now, but
his name was Bill, and Bill wrote a play and
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the play was called The Tempest, and in the Tempest
comes the phrase what's past his prologue, which means basically,
everything that's happened before is why we are here now. Right.
It's also an indicator of hey, peeps, been there, done that.
So Jensen Wong said the same thing I've been saying
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all over all for a long time, and that is,
don't freak out whenever technology makes an advancement. He said, however,
if you now look at history, because everybody's like, hey,
I is going to replace everybody. Hey, I is going
to take all the jobs, we're all gonna be we're
all gonna be out of work, and everybody's working worried
about what they're calling the white collar apocalypse. And he said,
if you look at history and you ask yourself, do
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I have more ideas so that if I were to
be more productive, I could do more? Then you would
describe a condition that reflects human history that we have
become more productive over time, we've become more productive raising crops.
It's not like all of a sudden, as a result
of mechanization, everybody ran out of work. I totally agree.
I've been saying this before. When John Deere comes along
with the plow, we didn't go, oh, this is gonna
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put all the farmers out of work. No, it meant
the farmers could do more. Sure, there were some farm
hands that did lose their jobs, and then they became
plow mechanics. Here's what Wong says. Everyone's jobs will change.
Some jobs will be unnecessary, some people will lose jobs,
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but many new jobs will be created. The world will
be more productive, there will be higher GDP, there will
be more jobs. But every job will be augmented by
AI in the same way that basically every job has
been augmented by the Internet. Yeah, but that doesn't mean
that we've suddenly replaced people, right, we haven't. Well, you know,
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I used to have a gajillion file cabinets and I
had to hire three people to keep my files. And
now it's being done on this computer. So I guess
suddenly nobody has any jobs because we had to get
rid of people who filed things now, the term Ludites
comes from textile workers in the seventeen hundreds. Are you
familiar with this cana? I think I've told this story before.
Let me educate you again. I'm very smart. So the
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lud Heites were textile workers and all of a sudden,
the loom comes along and they went, oh, my goodness,
you can make clothing so much faster. This is going
to put us out of work. And they were afraid
of the technology, and they did everything they could to
stop the introduction of the technology. Is anybody running around naked?
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Are all the textile workers now out of work? China
seems to be doing real well with textile workers now. Granted,
as a percentage of the population, there are fewer textile
workers today than there were in the seventeen hundreds, but
there are an awful lot more sewing machine repair people
I suppose, or manufacturers or whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It is.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Right, it creates more, you get more done, allowing you
to create more and be more creative, exactly what Wang
is saying. In fact, he's not alone on this. Some
people are picking up what he's putting down. Goodwill says, actually,
Ai has been pretty good for creating jobs from KTLA.
Speaker 12 (23:45):
AI is impacting so many aspects of work.
Speaker 13 (23:48):
Even at Goodwill, you'll see a variety of things. But
we have tons of new instruments because he's speakers, a
cart a telescope.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
It even comes with snazzy music.
Speaker 12 (24:00):
Brian Smith is with Shopgodwill dot com. They recently teamed
up with Microsoft to streamline how products are listed for sale.
Speaker 10 (24:08):
We are very focused on leveraging technology right now, very
much the capabilities around AI to really unlock some of
the value.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
This music bet is really flipping me out right now.
For these not for profit organizations.
Speaker 13 (24:21):
Photography work has been done.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I am so distracted by it, and now I will
upload it to the AI tool.
Speaker 12 (24:27):
Goodwill worked with Microsoft's Tech for Social Impact.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Group did AI make this music bed.
Speaker 12 (24:33):
Too, to create an AI tool that helps employees list
donations faster and with less training.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Oh my goodness. It is going to put Goodwill workers out.
We won't have to have as many people taking pictures.
We won't need so many people uploading the pictures. We're
gonna get rid of all the people that are training
the people that we're doing all these things.
Speaker 13 (24:50):
Ah, we had some listeners who were posting maybe forty
five items a day are now posting one hundred and plus.
Speaker 12 (24:58):
When items are donated to Goodwill, they need to be identified, photographed,
and listed for sale on their auction site.
Speaker 13 (25:04):
It would get the item, and if you didn't know
what it was, you kind of could tell it was
a clock. You would start researching that clock on either
Google or you know, any other search engine or eBay.
Speaker 12 (25:15):
That research takes time and assumes that the employee even
knows what they're looking at.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So here we have it.
Speaker 13 (25:21):
It's a Blessing USA trombone with pace.
Speaker 12 (25:23):
Now AI does the heavy lifting.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Could any I tell you to get rid of the
music that it's so distracting.
Speaker 12 (25:30):
Empowering employees, including those with disabilities, to be productive from
day one.
Speaker 13 (25:35):
There's no additional expertise needed.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
By the employees.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Okay, list the product.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
That tool will do that for them.
Speaker 12 (25:41):
The system figures out the product category description and even
notes flaws.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You're probably firing the people working for you then, right,
there's just getting rid of everybody. My god, if you
were doing forty five listings before and now they can
do one hundred, that means you only need half as
many people. Oh, it's a good Will apocalypse.
Speaker 13 (25:58):
A lot of times, AI is kind of demonized as
taking jobs away, But we're trying to flip that story
on its head and use AI to employ more people
because we can cast a much broader net of skill sets.
Speaker 10 (26:12):
Very happy to see that the work that they've done
here has actually increased the number of jobs that they
have available for folks of all kinds, of different, different
types of disabilities.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
All this, okay, all this, I can't. I can't listen
to music, but anymore, my point is we're already seeing
it creating jobs. Yes, some companies will make layoffs. They will,
they're going to try to quote unquote right size. But
the smart companies are going to use AI to turbocharge
what they have going on right now. If the status
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quo is all you're aiming for, then AI will be
used to replace people. What it should be used for
is replacing the CEO that lacks vision. However, where some
people think that AI is going to make everything easier,
probably not. It's probably gonna do just the opposite. Yeah,
(27:06):
if you thought you were getting fridays off, forget about it.
In fact, get ready to start working the weekends. That's next.
Chris merril k if I AM six forty. We're live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Cookie Time, we mean cookie
time better, Kayla, we mean cookie time better.
Speaker 11 (27:22):
Cookie time is never bad.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
No, Cookie time is better now. Oh yeah, yeah, I
feel that. I like cookie Time. I like you. Thank
you for inviting us in during cookie Time. Chris Merril
kfi AM six forty more stimulating talk on demand anytime
in the iHeartRadio app. Kayla worries about the AI. She
says I'm gonna replace her. Kayla, will not replace you
(27:45):
with AI. AI will replace all of us.
Speaker 11 (27:47):
No, it will not doctors, lawyers, spaceship drivers.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It's going to reduce the number of mistakes that doctors make. Already,
there was a story this week about the first It
was like gollbladder surgery that was done using chat GPT,
where an experienced surgeon basically guided a robot that was
operated by AI to gallbladder surgery. I thought that was
really interesting. So if you take the human element out
(28:14):
of it, which we already have robotic assist going out
in medicine, it's going to reduce human error. I like that.
It's going to make lawyers better at lawyer in provided
that the data you get is accurate already lawyers who
tried to cut corners, and we know that some of
the language learning models from AI start to make cases
up and so there's room for growth. But the Nvidia CEO,
(28:37):
Jensen Wang, said, look, this is not going to destroy
all of humanity. This is going to This is going
to make us more productive. There's going to be more
jobs higher GDP. And I'd like to point out too,
I made mention the last segment, you know, the lud
heights and the seventeen hundreds making clothing, that we're worried
about the looms and the and the machines coming in,
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and they did everything they could to stop it because
they thought it was going to take our jobs. I
remember I grew up in Michigan and in the eighties
they were all worried about the robots are going to
replace all the assembly line workers. Look not really. I mean, yeah,
the robots are being used, but honestly, the issues that
hit Detroit weren't because of the robots. Robots helped save it.
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It's save this. It's been we have fewer farmers now
since the advent of the plow and then subsequently the tractor.
But one farmer can do way more than ever before,
doesn't need as many farm hands, doesn't need as many
people helping them out. However, the price of our the
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price of our vegetables, stays down, and people that had
been farmhands in the past they retool, they retrain, they
get different jobs. In fact, throughout history, no technological advancement,
think about this, no technolo logical advancement. Go back to
the Romans. Prior to the aqueducts. Somebody had to shovel crap.
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That was their job, shovel pooh. And then the Romans
were like, you know what, we just came up with sewers,
and they went, what a great idea, Maybe the rats
can live there. And then all of a sudden, the
pooh shovelers they weren't going, oh, they're gonna take our jobs,
and they went, hey, we don't have to shovel crap anymore.
(30:26):
Then they became brick layers for the sewers. Never in
human history has technological advancement decimated a society, except maybe
the atom bump. But other than that, no technological advancement
has ever wiped out of society. It doesn't happen. It
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makes things better or at least more productive. In fact,
I was reading another article and I wanted to share
this with you from the Wall Street Journal that talked
about AI and how AI is being used in the workplace,
and now you may be able to get more done.
So you're breezing. This is from the Wall Street Journal.
Breezing through the tedious items on our to do list
(31:08):
is supposed to make us see AI as an ally,
not a threat. But unless finishing early comes with extra
downtime or other gains, the real beneficiaries are likely to
be the business is looking to squeeze more productivity out
of their team. So recent survey says nearly half of
workers believe their AI time savings should belong to them,
(31:28):
not their employers. That survey, conducted by a business software maker,
also found workers using AI save almost an hour a
day on average. So you're saving an hour a day
on average because you're using AI. Doesn't that mean you
should be able to take off early on Fridday? Whatever
happened to that four day work week concept? Shouldn't AI
make that a reality? No? No, Instead, what we say
(31:51):
is good, Now you can do more, You can get
more done. Your quotas go up. Now, you're not gonna
like it. But while everyone else is worried about how
jobs are going away, AI is going to replace everybody
they are not. We are already seeing that employers are
not replacing people with AI. They're demanding more of the
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people they already have. So, Kayla, we're not replacing you
with AI. AI is not going to do the job
of looking up stories and answering, pulling up the talkbacks
and all that kind of stuff. It's going to mean
that you have to get more of it done. Oh
that's not a good thing either. Yes, more audio, more
story crafting, more all of this in order to make
(32:35):
this show really pop. I want a little production value here.
How about some wiz bangs thrown in every now and again.
When was the last time you gave me a whiz bang?
That's what I thought, good answer, So a little little
peppier here. Let's pep it up, let's step it up.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Okay, all right, let's.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Get it done. There is concern though, that a number
of students are using chatbots and it's making them dumber.
I remember back in the old days when now, cal
I'm going to take you back to it, the really
old days, oh Man. Early on in the internets, now,
there was a time that you might get an assignment
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to read Shakespeare, which of course you've probably read it
all many times, but just the same you had to
do that assignment. But you also had a number of
other assignments due all at the same time. And so
you go online looking for a little bit of inspiration,
and you happen to find somebody else's paper, and you
know that's interesting, and suddenly your paper looks a lot
like that paper. Those are the old days. Now they
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run that through like a scan to see see if
what you turn in has been used elsewhere. Now they
try to scan it to see if you had AI
use it. Students are using AI to write all their crap.
Who wouldn't I would if I was a student, right.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Hey, I.
Speaker 14 (33:58):
Used it to help just I'd put articles in there,
just why I can get an idea of what I
was reading before I started reading it. Because I knew
I would have to get citations and all that stuff
that AI wouldn't be able to provide, and that that
takes some unique perspective from a human to be able
to make it. So academically it passes Muster but if
it's really, they've every all of the professors now are
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sniffing out AI for their papers, and there's a lot
of people thinking that they're going to get away with it.
Lawyers thought that they could make laws suits using it
brief out and they ended up like AI has a
tendency to make up stuff if it doesn't happen or
it does, so yeah, that's why you can't rely on it.
Speaker 11 (34:37):
I've heard a lot of people are going to flip
phones too, just to escape AI and be able to
get there they are. It was in NBC, Man, Doctor
Wendy are going to cover later. It's true talk No,
it's on NBC. It's gen Z getting flip phones because
they want to get their attention span back and they
want to not let AI take over.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
No, no, no, Like three people on gen Z saw a
trend on TikTok on their on their smartphones, and then
NBC it was like, let's run a story. This is
like when they ran a story about all the kids
are sniffing tied. No they were not, and this goes
all the kids all that. Oh crazy people are putting
razor blades and apples. Yeah, trust those apples.
Speaker 11 (35:15):
You couldn't come on, all right, you can't believe everything
you read.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I can't believe it. No, that doesn't mean there isn't
somebody doing it, but it's not a trend. Oh oh,
they really want to start driving manual transmissions so they
can feel the road again. Sure they do. Okay, you
found one kid that thought it was fun to learn
how to drive a stick and now you're gonna make
it look like all of gen Z is doing it.
No you're not. But here's the delio on this. I
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love what Sam was saying though, that he's using it
basically as cliffs notes, so he's got AI creating summaries
for him, which is what we used to do with
cliff notes or cheat sheets. Right, that's the old days.
You whipper snappers don't know what it's like to go
to the bookstore and have to pay almost as much
for the stupid cliffs notes as you would have had
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to spend for the book. Those cliffs notes were pretty
good though. They really helped out. You don't even know
what I'm talking about, do you? Yeah? Real quiet in here,
real fast cliffs notes. Cliff notes were around when I
was a kid. Man, Kayla doesn't know where they are,
doesn't know who Cliff is unbelievable. It's like, geez, I
(36:21):
guess so nice good pull. I did like that. I
like that a lot. Uh, there's no business like shelf business. Next,
Chris Merril kf IM six forty were live everywhere on
the iHeartRadio app
Speaker 1 (36:34):
Kf I AM six forty on demand
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand, not
I mean.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Chris Merril ki AM six forty more stimulating talk live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app Let me just take againder here.
I was thinking about, let's think about all the Epstein
crap that's going down, although actually I wanted to hit
some some of your talkbacks first, but all this Epstein
(00:32):
stuff is not really going away. And this has been
This has been problematic for the President, who normally can
just say there's nothing to see here, move on, and
then everybody goes, Okay, I guess we'll move on. And
as much as some people want to keep asking questions
about different issues, inevitably his legions say now we're not
(00:52):
talking about that. We're moving on. But when it comes
to Epstein, he's had some issues with that. So a
little bit about how that's evolved this week, a bit
of a a recap, and then sort of a preview
of what you can expect going into the following week.
We asked the question, what's the biggest mistake you ever made?
Excuse me? We were discussing this dude in Brentwood who
(01:14):
who seems to be a serial impersonator even have bought
a fire truck so we can get into the Palisades fire.
Why why would you do that?
Speaker 3 (01:26):
You would use a fire truck to enter across the
lines so that way you can rob the houses because
they think you're a fire department, and that's why you're
back where all the fire is. Okay, you steal all
the stuff before the fire comes through and wipes out
the house, and then ensure it takes it off there.
Who knows lots of money?
Speaker 2 (01:45):
Yeah, I'm with you. I agree that could be a
motivation for doing it, except that the dude lives in Brentwood,
he's the CEO of a company. There's nothing that would
indicate he needs the money, so is it simply for adventure.
There's also no indication that he took anything yet. Now
that doesn't mean and that's not gonna those details aren't
going to come out, and who knows, there could be
other details that he's completely broke because he spent his
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money in a fire truck. I don't know just did.
Something's not adding up to me because something's not quite
right on that, and I think I think the guy's
got to screw loose upstairs. But then we were talking
about there's like used fire truck websites. I had no idea.
I thought you had to show that you actually were
a fire department in order to to buy a fire truck.
(02:27):
I know that when I was younger, I studied emergency medicine,
and so we used to get the catalogs had like
the sirens and first responder stuff in it, and oh,
you're you're good, Kayla. They didn't let me in. You're
fine now, they said I was. They said I would
be a terrible first responder, so you're safe. Yeah. But
(02:48):
I was headed toward that career for a while, and
then I got into radio. So obviously there's another huge
mistake I've made in my life. But I was I
was looking at the fire trucks. How do you even
get your hands on a fire truck? Because I thought
you had to be a registered department or some sort.
Speaker 4 (03:01):
Hey, Chris, you know, sometimes small rural areas, either up
in the mountains or out in small little communities that
are off the grid, they have their own volunteer fire departments,
and oftentimes they might need a fire rig to add
to their equipment, and getting one that's previously been owned
and used, and then they referbed that thing and now
(03:23):
they have some equipment in case they have to fight
a fire.
Speaker 2 (03:25):
Yeah, I get you.
Speaker 4 (03:26):
I just thought i'd let you know.
Speaker 2 (03:27):
Yeah, I understand the reason for buying is some of
the fire trucks that I was seeing for the used
fire fire truck, fire equipment again whatever, it was so
old that there's I don't know, if you're a rural department,
you wouldn't spend the money on it. And I know
this in large part because I actually own a home
in an area that only has volunteer fire. So my
wife and I have a place near my hometown in
No lordn Michigan. It is where she spends summer and
(03:48):
then she leaves me to deal with the lunacy of
the summertime here. But she's there near the shores of
Lake Michigan, and we have this nice, little, very very modest.
Don't think I have beautiful lake home or anything crazy.
It's very modest. But she's there, my family's there. It's fantastic.
The fire department is all volunteer and they do buy
(04:09):
used or reconditioned fire equipment. Many of the different township
departments too, so I understand exactly what you're saying. The
ones I was seeing on the site, though, the really
old ones. Nobody's buying a nineteen eighty five ladder truck
for ten grand, because that's more trouble. And the last
thing you want is a volunteer firefighter because they take
their jobs very seriously. Even if it is a volunteer,
(04:32):
they do not want to be driving a Jelopi and
they worry about the ladder networking. All right, more of
your questions here on the talkback coming up in just
a few moments. What is the worst decision you ever made?
And light of the Coldplay kiss cam CEO hr director debacle,
what's the time that you really made a boneheaded move?
Hit us up on the talk back on the iHeartRadio app.
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So earlier this week, the Epstein stuff wouldn't go away,
and President Trump's said this is a vast left wing conspiracy.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Amid the fallout over his administration's handling of the Jeffrey
Epstein files. President Trump isn't just hoping people move on,
He's demanding so, claiming Democrats are inciting the pressure and
calling his supporters pressing for more information stupid.
Speaker 6 (05:18):
The sad part is it's people that are really doing
the Democrats work.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
There's stupid people. Let me tell you what people love
to hear. They love to hear after they've supported you
for the last ten years, how stupid they are. I'm this.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
That was a.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
Terrible thing for him to say, Really a terrible deal.
That was a This is already an own goal, and
he compounded it when he started calling people stupid and weak,
the people who have supported him all along, mostly because
he's the guy that said he was going to out
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these files.
Speaker 1 (06:00):
I love to poorly educate it.
Speaker 2 (06:03):
See he's called people done before and it hasn't really
thank you guys, it hasn't really hurt. But now I'm
telling you this is this is a bigly mistake, huge
own goal.
Speaker 5 (06:12):
Throughout then candidate Trump's campaign, influential Trump supporters and several
of his closest allies alleged to the Epstein files were
a cover up by Democrats.
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Seriously, we need to release the f Stein list. You're stupid.
Speaker 5 (06:24):
Epstein, a convicted.
Speaker 2 (06:25):
Oh I'm sorry that the President said you're very.
Speaker 5 (06:27):
Stupid sex offender who died in jail awaiting trial for
sex trafficking charges during Trump's first term has since been
the subject of a slew of conspiracy theories. The Trump
campaign embraced some of them, and earlier this year, the
DOJ released binders to a group of influencers, calling it
the Epstein Files. Phase one followed by the most transparent
administration in history. Those files released were not new there
(06:50):
was no phase two. In a memo last week, the DOJ.
Speaker 2 (06:54):
Yeah, remember when they said we're going to release the
files and then they came out and everybody's like, there's
nothing in here. Yeah, welcome.
Speaker 5 (07:01):
In a memo last week, the DOJ and FBI concluded,
among other things, that there is no incriminating client list
and confirmed Epstein died by suicide.
Speaker 2 (07:10):
Okay, first, let's address this real quick. Whether or not
there is a log book with a bunch of names
written down on it is immaterial. We know that there
was sex trafficking. We know that there were victims. We
know that there were under age victims because uh Gizlane
Maxwell is in prison for this stuff. And we know
then that there are rapists, right, We know this. Whether
(07:33):
or not there's an actual diary of a list is immaterial.
We know that there are people who are rapists that
the DOJ seems not interested in following up on. And
had they just simply said, we're still trying to track
these people down. We're we're still trying to build our case,
whatever it is, they could have kept pushing this one
(07:55):
down the road, like in the first term when Trump
everybody wanted to see his taxes and they were all
convinced there was something on the taxes, something on the taxes, something,
and then finally we get kind of a look at
some old taxes and you realize there actually is nothing
on the taxes. It was all much to do about nothing.
He didn't have to release He didn't have to make
a big deal out of that, but he did. If
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his name is not on here, then why are you
making a big deal out of it. It reminds me of
the taxes. Don't do that to yourself. But if your
name is in the files, and they quite possibly could be,
because we knew that he and Epstein used to party
together in the early two thousand and nineties, in the
two thousands, But if there's nothing that says that he
was doing untoward things to young girls, just release it.
(08:38):
But then you don't, and it looks like you're covering
something up, just like it did with the taxes.
Speaker 5 (08:42):
The calls for transparency now echoing on Capitol Hill.
Speaker 2 (08:46):
Listen, I think everything that can be released consistent with
the prosecution should be released.
Speaker 5 (08:51):
Trump has asked Attorney General Pam Bondi to release any
additional credible files, though it's unclear what that entails, if anything.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, especially, I mean that going to be phase two.
They already said no.
Speaker 7 (09:01):
And yesterday the DOJ fired attorney Marine Comy, who successfully
prosecuted Epstein associate Glene Maxwell. She's also the daughter of
former FBI director James Comy, who Trump fired in his
first term. Yeah, Christian Cordero, ABC News Washington, thank you.
Speaker 2 (09:17):
So he fired the prosecutor who actually got Gislane fired her,
but that was Comy's daughter. So did you fire because
it's Kmy's daughter, or you fire because she knows about
the the Epstein stuff? Right? These are continued own goals,
which is why did you know that you could? Earlier
this week I saw this, You could put a bet
(09:38):
down on who was going to be named in the
Epstein files. See what people were betting on, or rather
I will share with you what people were betting on
in just a few moments. And why now Trump is
turning on another one of his longtime supporters and how
that's going to play out. That's next. Chris merril caff
I Am six to forty were Live everywhere on the
iHeartRadio app Chris Merril caff six forty more stimulating talk.
(10:03):
He's talking about the Newsom here segment back and Newsom
was he's ripping on the president and he's talking about
how terrible the president is. And then I was discussing
that Newsom sure seems to be uh talking a lot
about national stuff, tying it of course to California because
he can then say I'm the governor. I had to
do this. But then he says, hey, this is gonna
(10:24):
happen everywhere. Sounds an awful lot like a campaign.
Speaker 8 (10:28):
Hey, Chris, it's Vernon Ridondo. I'll tell you what dippity
Doo was doing in South Carolina, the same thing bas
did with her Ice stump, avoiding the press conference in
the Palisades and addressing the issues of people really suffering
instead of having.
Speaker 2 (10:49):
Women bond and hint over ba Okay, all right, he's
a just campaign, Hey, Chris. The show it's always entertaining
and it's always informative. Just a real quick side note,
it is still not too late to get into crypto.
Oh yeah, we were talking about crypto earlier. I was
talking about the worst decision I ever made. My wife
(11:11):
made me sell all the crypto stuff I had in
like twenty eighteen or I think it was about twenty eighteen,
and I was into it then. I'm not really into
it now, but yeah, that one costs us some money.
But at the time it was costing me a lot
of money that I was doing the whole mining thing
and trading, and it was costing money at the time.
Speaker 9 (11:32):
In fact, if I were you, I'd be dumping quite
a bit of money into bitcoin and a little less
so in Ethereum.
Speaker 10 (11:38):
Okay, because I've been in this game now for thirteen years.
Speaker 2 (11:42):
And oh this still a long, long long way to
go playing it. Run way, buddy, you're not too late,
all right, this guy let me tell you something, Kayla.
Get this guy's number, because he's rich, he's been doing
this stuff. Yet. If he's been doing this for thirteen years,
he was he was buying in when when bitcoin was
like three hundred bucks. Oh yeah, he said, he's loaded
(12:06):
Diet his number. You're gonna want that?
Speaker 11 (12:08):
Yeah, okay, yes, I'm going to email him and shoot
my shot right now.
Speaker 2 (12:11):
Good for you. Good for I like that idea. I
feel like we've done some good work today. I didn't
realize this that you know Polymarket. Are you familiar with
Polly Market. They let you bet on all kinds of
crazy stuff. So you can bet on the presidential winner
right now for twenty twenty eight, according to their market.
By the way, Jade Vance leads. Gavin Newsom is in second.
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You can bet on who the nominees are going to be.
You can bet on whether or not the Fed will
raise the interest rates in July. You can bet on
whether or not Trump will fire Jerome Powell. You can
bet on the Coldplay CEO getting divorced. You can bet
(12:52):
on whether or not the Epstein files are going to
be made public. Well, Polly Market allowed you to bet
on who would be named in the Epstein fire and
they had that market open until the end of June.
That's before the DOJ came out and said they weren't
going to release the files at all. Names that were
that the betters thought were on the list. All right,
(13:13):
Tony Blair, remember the former PM of the UK. Let
me see Alec Baldwin. People thought his name would be
on the list. David Coke, They thought his name would
be on the list, Kevin Spacey, Henry Kissinger, Prince Andrew.
That one was pretty obvious, right in fact, ninety over
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ninety nine percent chance people thought he was on the list.
Alan Dershowitz over ninety nine percent chances people thought he
was on the list. Name I didn't think would be
there David Copperfield. I thought that was interesting. People thought
Michael Jackson's name would be on that list, and they
thought overwhelmingly Donald Trump's name would be on that list.
Those that people thought the majority thought would not be
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on the list Anderson Cooper, Quentin Tarantino, Bernie Sanders, Rachel
al Gore, Stephen Colbert, AOC, Robert Donney, Junior, Chuck Schumer.
I mean, just listen names, Tom Hanks, I don't know
why his name keeps coming up with this, Oprah jay Z.
Number of names that people were betting on but they
thought would not be on there. But Trump people thought
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overwhelmingly would be on that list. We may never find out,
because now they're going to say, well, we're going to
ask the DOJ. The DOJ is going to ask a
judge to release some of that info. You know, it's
all up to the courts. So what are we gonna
do about it. That's what they should have said to
start with, we want to release it, but it's the
courts have tied our hands on it. That's what they
should have been saying, but they didn't, and they're saying
case closed. We're not doing any more investigations. This is
(14:38):
not going away. People are not going to be satisfied
with the quote unquote most transparent administration ever, which every
administration says, giving up on following known rapists. We know
that there were rapists going to the island. That's not
a question. That's not up for debate. We know that
there were six crimes committed on Epstein Island, and you're
(15:00):
not gonna you're not gonna try to track that down. Huh.
In the meantime, the Wall Street Journal puts out what
is purported to be a birthday letter that Trump sent
to Jeffrey Epstein for his fiftieth birthday in two thousand
(15:22):
and three. I didn't realize Epstein was that old. He
was seventy seventy one or something right when he offed
himself almost seventy in that neighborhood. Didn't really that, I
don't anyway. In this Trump said allegedly that they had
some secrets together, and then it was attached to a
(15:43):
picture of a naked lady that he drew, and Trump said,
I don't do that.
Speaker 9 (15:50):
The Justice Department request follows a report in The Wall
Street Journal that a quote body letter bearing Trump's name
is included in an album from dozens of Epstein's associates
to celebrate his fiftieth birthday in two thousand and three.
The journal reports the letter contains several lines of typewritten
text framed in the outline of a naked woman drawn
in heavy marker, including in a mac.
Speaker 2 (16:11):
Nobody I've never used a heavy marker in my.
Speaker 9 (16:13):
Life imaginary exchange between Trump and Epstein. The president told
the journal Tuesday evening quote, this is not me.
Speaker 2 (16:19):
This is a fake thing.
Speaker 9 (16:20):
I never wrote a picture in my life, never.
Speaker 2 (16:22):
Wrote a picture, never used a heavy pen, heavy marker.
Never happened. Ever.
Speaker 9 (16:29):
I don't draw pictures of women. It's not my language,
it's not my words. That I might believe and threatened
to sue the Wall Street Journal, which shares ownership with
Fox News. Fox News has not independently confirmed the truth
of the Wall Street Journal's claims about the letter.
Speaker 6 (16:44):
Court filing show this afternoon, President Trump did file a
lawsuit over that Wall Street Journal article. Fox News has
asked the White House for comment at the White House
Rich Edson Fox News.
Speaker 2 (16:54):
And of course, when he says I never wrote a
picture before, then it takes like zero points zero seconds
for people to find pictures that he's drawn and actually
sold it things like charity auctions. So either he's lying
now when he says he's he doesn't draw pictures, he's
never written a picture before, I don't write I've never
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wrote a picture, or he was lying when he signed
to the other pictures that were then sold at at
charity auctions when he said he did that. So which
is you were committing fraud back then, or are you
just lying to us now now that you're not under oath,
which which is it? Right? So that's not great. Just
for context, Trump did sue Bob Woodward over a book
(17:39):
that Woodward put out. It's kind of a sneaky thing.
He was mad that Woodward put out a book that
he said was it didn't make him look very good,
and so what they use for an angle? He says, Uh,
Bob Woodwork can't put that book out. He didn't claim defamation.
He claimed, Uh, we were supposed to co auth through
(17:59):
that together, and he backed out of the deal. That
judge has dismissed the case. So that didn't go over
very well. I think I think what happens with the
Wall Street Journal is not going to go over very well.
I'd love to see it go on. I can't wait
to see discovery in that one. I hope it happens
all right. AI AI AI is it ruining your life,
(18:21):
taking your job? Chances are it's doing the exact opposite.
That's next, Chris Merril KFI AM six forty. We're live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app.
Speaker 1 (18:28):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (18:34):
Chris Merril KFI AM six forty more stimulating thoughts on
demand anytime in the iHeartRadio app. This whole AI boom
is it's good for California because it's creating a lot
of creating a lot of jobs for the Silicon Valley.
For all the tech smarties that are out there, And
(18:58):
then there's questions about is californ when you're going to
regulate AI kind of a tricky situation because we're seeing
a lot of AI coming out of places like Amazon
or Microsoft Seattle area. Certainly we've got some things happening
in Silicon Valley as well with Meta. But how much
regulation does California want to put on AI? And if
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we put regulation on AI, is that going to translate nationwide?
Or are you going to have other companies that are
trying to poach some of our some of our what
do they call it? Intellectual properties? So are our brainy acts?
Are they going to try to do that? I was
looking at a it was an interview that was done
(19:42):
with the CEO of Nvidia, Jensen Wong is his name,
and I was fascinated by this. I was fascinated because
it's what I've been saying all along. I'm very smart man.
I keep telling my kids that I'm a very smart man.
You have to listen to I'm a very smart man.
(20:02):
Don't don't doubt my brilliance. I tell this to Kayla
all the time too. She rolls her eyes at me.
But Kayla, when have I ever been wrong? That's right? Okay,
that's right, you got it right the first time. Yep,
very good. There was a guy he's dead now, but
his name was Bill, and Bill wrote a play and
(20:23):
the play was called The Tempest, and in the Tempest
comes the phrase what's past his prologue, which means basically,
everything that's happened before is why we are here now. Right.
It's also an indicator of hey, peeps, been there, done that.
So Jensen Wong said the same thing I've been saying
(20:44):
all over all for a long time, and that is,
don't freak out whenever technology makes an advancement. He said, however,
if you now look at history, because everybody's like, hey,
I is going to replace everybody. Hey, I is going
to take all the jobs, we're all gonna be we're
all gonna be out of work, and everybody's working worried
about what they're calling the white collar apocalypse. And he said,
if you look at history and you ask yourself, do
(21:06):
I have more ideas so that if I were to
be more productive, I could do more? Then you would
describe a condition that reflects human history that we have
become more productive over time, we've become more productive raising crops.
It's not like all of a sudden, as a result
of mechanization, everybody ran out of work. I totally agree.
I've been saying this before. When John Deere comes along
with the plow, we didn't go, oh, this is gonna
(21:27):
put all the farmers out of work. No, it meant
the farmers could do more. Sure, there were some farm
hands that did lose their jobs, and then they became
plow mechanics. Here's what Wong says. Everyone's jobs will change.
Some jobs will be unnecessary, some people will lose jobs,
(21:47):
but many new jobs will be created. The world will
be more productive, there will be higher GDP, there will
be more jobs. But every job will be augmented by
AI in the same way that basically every job has
been augmented by the Internet. Yeah, but that doesn't mean
that we've suddenly replaced people, right, we haven't. Well, you know,
(22:11):
I used to have a gajillion file cabinets and I
had to hire three people to keep my files. And
now it's being done on this computer. So I guess
suddenly nobody has any jobs because we had to get
rid of people who filed things now, the term Ludites
comes from textile workers in the seventeen hundreds. Are you
familiar with this cana? I think I've told this story before.
Let me educate you again. I'm very smart. So the
(22:36):
lud Heites were textile workers and all of a sudden,
the loom comes along and they went, oh, my goodness,
you can make clothing so much faster. This is going
to put us out of work. And they were afraid
of the technology, and they did everything they could to
stop the introduction of the technology. Is anybody running around naked?
(23:04):
Are all the textile workers now out of work? China
seems to be doing real well with textile workers now. Granted,
as a percentage of the population, there are fewer textile
workers today than there were in the seventeen hundreds, but
there are an awful lot more sewing machine repair people
I suppose, or manufacturers or whatever.
Speaker 3 (23:24):
It is.
Speaker 2 (23:24):
Right, it creates more, you get more done, allowing you
to create more and be more creative, exactly what Wang
is saying. In fact, he's not alone on this. Some
people are picking up what he's putting down. Goodwill says, actually,
Ai has been pretty good for creating jobs from KTLA.
Speaker 12 (23:45):
AI is impacting so many aspects of work.
Speaker 13 (23:48):
Even at Goodwill, you'll see a variety of things. But
we have tons of new instruments because he's speakers, a
cart a telescope.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
It even comes with snazzy music.
Speaker 12 (24:00):
Brian Smith is with Shopgodwill dot com. They recently teamed
up with Microsoft to streamline how products are listed for sale.
Speaker 10 (24:08):
We are very focused on leveraging technology right now, very
much the capabilities around AI to really unlock some of
the value.
Speaker 2 (24:17):
This music bet is really flipping me out right now.
For these not for profit organizations.
Speaker 13 (24:21):
Photography work has been done.
Speaker 2 (24:22):
I am so distracted by it, and now I will
upload it to the AI tool.
Speaker 12 (24:27):
Goodwill worked with Microsoft's Tech for Social Impact.
Speaker 2 (24:30):
Group did AI make this music bed.
Speaker 12 (24:33):
Too, to create an AI tool that helps employees list
donations faster and with less training.
Speaker 2 (24:40):
Oh my goodness. It is going to put Goodwill workers out.
We won't have to have as many people taking pictures.
We won't need so many people uploading the pictures. We're
gonna get rid of all the people that are training
the people that we're doing all these things.
Speaker 13 (24:50):
Ah, we had some listeners who were posting maybe forty
five items a day are now posting one hundred and plus.
Speaker 12 (24:58):
When items are donated to Goodwill, they need to be identified, photographed,
and listed for sale on their auction site.
Speaker 13 (25:04):
It would get the item, and if you didn't know
what it was, you kind of could tell it was
a clock. You would start researching that clock on either
Google or you know, any other search engine or eBay.
Speaker 12 (25:15):
That research takes time and assumes that the employee even
knows what they're looking at.
Speaker 2 (25:20):
So here we have it.
Speaker 13 (25:21):
It's a Blessing USA trombone with pace.
Speaker 12 (25:23):
Now AI does the heavy lifting.
Speaker 2 (25:27):
Could any I tell you to get rid of the
music that it's so distracting.
Speaker 12 (25:30):
Empowering employees, including those with disabilities, to be productive from
day one.
Speaker 13 (25:35):
There's no additional expertise needed.
Speaker 3 (25:37):
By the employees.
Speaker 2 (25:38):
Okay, list the product.
Speaker 3 (25:39):
That tool will do that for them.
Speaker 12 (25:41):
The system figures out the product category description and even
notes flaws.
Speaker 2 (25:45):
You're probably firing the people working for you then, right,
there's just getting rid of everybody. My god, if you
were doing forty five listings before and now they can
do one hundred, that means you only need half as
many people. Oh, it's a good Will apocalypse.
Speaker 13 (25:58):
A lot of times, AI is kind of demonized as
taking jobs away, But we're trying to flip that story
on its head and use AI to employ more people
because we can cast a much broader net of skill sets.
Speaker 10 (26:12):
Very happy to see that the work that they've done
here has actually increased the number of jobs that they
have available for folks of all kinds, of different, different
types of disabilities.
Speaker 2 (26:22):
All this, okay, all this, I can't. I can't listen
to music, but anymore, my point is we're already seeing
it creating jobs. Yes, some companies will make layoffs. They will,
they're going to try to quote unquote right size. But
the smart companies are going to use AI to turbocharge
what they have going on right now. If the status
(26:42):
quo is all you're aiming for, then AI will be
used to replace people. What it should be used for
is replacing the CEO that lacks vision. However, where some
people think that AI is going to make everything easier,
probably not. It's probably gonna do just the opposite. Yeah,
(27:06):
if you thought you were getting fridays off, forget about it.
In fact, get ready to start working the weekends. That's next.
Chris merril k if I AM six forty. We're live
everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Cookie Time, we mean cookie
time better, Kayla, we mean cookie time better.
Speaker 11 (27:22):
Cookie time is never bad.
Speaker 2 (27:24):
No, Cookie time is better now. Oh yeah, yeah, I
feel that. I like cookie Time. I like you. Thank
you for inviting us in during cookie Time. Chris Merril
kfi AM six forty more stimulating talk on demand anytime
in the iHeartRadio app. Kayla worries about the AI. She
says I'm gonna replace her. Kayla, will not replace you
(27:45):
with AI. AI will replace all of us.
Speaker 11 (27:47):
No, it will not doctors, lawyers, spaceship drivers.
Speaker 2 (27:52):
It's going to reduce the number of mistakes that doctors make. Already,
there was a story this week about the first It
was like gollbladder surgery that was done using chat GPT,
where an experienced surgeon basically guided a robot that was
operated by AI to gallbladder surgery. I thought that was
really interesting. So if you take the human element out
(28:14):
of it, which we already have robotic assist going out
in medicine, it's going to reduce human error. I like that.
It's going to make lawyers better at lawyer in provided
that the data you get is accurate already lawyers who
tried to cut corners, and we know that some of
the language learning models from AI start to make cases
up and so there's room for growth. But the Nvidia CEO,
(28:37):
Jensen Wang, said, look, this is not going to destroy
all of humanity. This is going to This is going
to make us more productive. There's going to be more
jobs higher GDP. And I'd like to point out too,
I made mention the last segment, you know, the lud
heights and the seventeen hundreds making clothing, that we're worried
about the looms and the and the machines coming in,
(28:59):
and they did everything they could to stop it because
they thought it was going to take our jobs. I
remember I grew up in Michigan and in the eighties
they were all worried about the robots are going to
replace all the assembly line workers. Look not really. I mean, yeah,
the robots are being used, but honestly, the issues that
hit Detroit weren't because of the robots. Robots helped save it.
(29:22):
It's save this. It's been we have fewer farmers now
since the advent of the plow and then subsequently the tractor.
But one farmer can do way more than ever before,
doesn't need as many farm hands, doesn't need as many
people helping them out. However, the price of our the
(29:44):
price of our vegetables, stays down, and people that had
been farmhands in the past they retool, they retrain, they
get different jobs. In fact, throughout history, no technological advancement,
think about this, no technolo logical advancement. Go back to
the Romans. Prior to the aqueducts. Somebody had to shovel crap.
(30:06):
That was their job, shovel pooh. And then the Romans
were like, you know what, we just came up with sewers,
and they went, what a great idea, Maybe the rats
can live there. And then all of a sudden, the
pooh shovelers they weren't going, oh, they're gonna take our jobs,
and they went, hey, we don't have to shovel crap anymore.
(30:26):
Then they became brick layers for the sewers. Never in
human history has technological advancement decimated a society, except maybe
the atom bump. But other than that, no technological advancement
has ever wiped out of society. It doesn't happen. It
(30:47):
makes things better or at least more productive. In fact,
I was reading another article and I wanted to share
this with you from the Wall Street Journal that talked
about AI and how AI is being used in the workplace,
and now you may be able to get more done.
So you're breezing. This is from the Wall Street Journal.
Breezing through the tedious items on our to do list
(31:08):
is supposed to make us see AI as an ally,
not a threat. But unless finishing early comes with extra
downtime or other gains, the real beneficiaries are likely to
be the business is looking to squeeze more productivity out
of their team. So recent survey says nearly half of
workers believe their AI time savings should belong to them,
(31:28):
not their employers. That survey, conducted by a business software maker,
also found workers using AI save almost an hour a
day on average. So you're saving an hour a day
on average because you're using AI. Doesn't that mean you
should be able to take off early on Fridday? Whatever
happened to that four day work week concept? Shouldn't AI
make that a reality? No? No, Instead, what we say
(31:51):
is good, Now you can do more, You can get
more done. Your quotas go up. Now, you're not gonna
like it. But while everyone else is worried about how
jobs are going away, AI is going to replace everybody
they are not. We are already seeing that employers are
not replacing people with AI. They're demanding more of the
(32:14):
people they already have. So, Kayla, we're not replacing you
with AI. AI is not going to do the job
of looking up stories and answering, pulling up the talkbacks
and all that kind of stuff. It's going to mean
that you have to get more of it done. Oh
that's not a good thing either. Yes, more audio, more
story crafting, more all of this in order to make
(32:35):
this show really pop. I want a little production value here.
How about some wiz bangs thrown in every now and again.
When was the last time you gave me a whiz bang?
That's what I thought, good answer, So a little little
peppier here. Let's pep it up, let's step it up.
Speaker 5 (32:56):
Okay, all right, let's.
Speaker 2 (32:58):
Get it done. There is concern though, that a number
of students are using chatbots and it's making them dumber.
I remember back in the old days when now, cal
I'm going to take you back to it, the really
old days, oh Man. Early on in the internets, now,
there was a time that you might get an assignment
(33:19):
to read Shakespeare, which of course you've probably read it
all many times, but just the same you had to
do that assignment. But you also had a number of
other assignments due all at the same time. And so
you go online looking for a little bit of inspiration,
and you happen to find somebody else's paper, and you
know that's interesting, and suddenly your paper looks a lot
like that paper. Those are the old days. Now they
(33:42):
run that through like a scan to see see if
what you turn in has been used elsewhere. Now they
try to scan it to see if you had AI
use it. Students are using AI to write all their crap.
Who wouldn't I would if I was a student, right.
Speaker 3 (33:56):
Hey, I.
Speaker 14 (33:58):
Used it to help just I'd put articles in there,
just why I can get an idea of what I
was reading before I started reading it. Because I knew
I would have to get citations and all that stuff
that AI wouldn't be able to provide, and that that
takes some unique perspective from a human to be able
to make it. So academically it passes Muster but if
it's really, they've every all of the professors now are
(34:21):
sniffing out AI for their papers, and there's a lot
of people thinking that they're going to get away with it.
Lawyers thought that they could make laws suits using it
brief out and they ended up like AI has a
tendency to make up stuff if it doesn't happen or
it does, so yeah, that's why you can't rely on it.
Speaker 11 (34:37):
I've heard a lot of people are going to flip
phones too, just to escape AI and be able to
get there they are. It was in NBC, Man, Doctor
Wendy are going to cover later. It's true talk No,
it's on NBC. It's gen Z getting flip phones because
they want to get their attention span back and they
want to not let AI take over.
Speaker 2 (34:53):
No, no, no, Like three people on gen Z saw a
trend on TikTok on their on their smartphones, and then
NBC it was like, let's run a story. This is
like when they ran a story about all the kids
are sniffing tied. No they were not, and this goes
all the kids all that. Oh crazy people are putting
razor blades and apples. Yeah, trust those apples.
Speaker 11 (35:15):
You couldn't come on, all right, you can't believe everything
you read.
Speaker 2 (35:18):
I can't believe it. No, that doesn't mean there isn't
somebody doing it, but it's not a trend. Oh oh,
they really want to start driving manual transmissions so they
can feel the road again. Sure they do. Okay, you
found one kid that thought it was fun to learn
how to drive a stick and now you're gonna make
it look like all of gen Z is doing it.
No you're not. But here's the delio on this. I
(35:39):
love what Sam was saying though, that he's using it
basically as cliffs notes, so he's got AI creating summaries
for him, which is what we used to do with
cliff notes or cheat sheets. Right, that's the old days.
You whipper snappers don't know what it's like to go
to the bookstore and have to pay almost as much
for the stupid cliffs notes as you would have had
(36:01):
to spend for the book. Those cliffs notes were pretty
good though. They really helped out. You don't even know
what I'm talking about, do you? Yeah? Real quiet in here,
real fast cliffs notes. Cliff notes were around when I
was a kid. Man, Kayla doesn't know where they are,
doesn't know who Cliff is unbelievable. It's like, geez, I
(36:21):
guess so nice good pull. I did like that. I
like that a lot. Uh, there's no business like shelf business. Next,
Chris Merril kf IM six forty were live everywhere on
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