December 17, 2025 • 33 mins
DA Hochman is potentially seeking the death penalty for Nick Reiner, the suspected killer of Rob Reiner and his wife Michele. The response to Donald Trump’s opinion on the shock double murder has angered many. Trump posted to Truth Social that the couple died due to their TDS. And the fallout continues, with WWE legend Mick Foley pulling out of the organization due to its relationship with Trump. The doctor who supplied ketamine to actor Matthew Perry that contributed to his 2023 drowning death has pled guilty and been sentenced to eight months home detention. Reports suggest the National Problem Gambling Helpline has received a surge in calls to the tune of over 140%.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Give you the lads here that we know about the
Rob Reiner, Nick Reiner, that the whole story is, it's
evolving in front of us. And I should also mention
Michelle Singer Reiner. I want to make sure I don't
forget about her, also tragic victim in the entire story.
But I asked you the question before we went to
Mark's News there. I said, look, what is the biggest
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mistake that you ever made at at a company holiday party.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I can't say it's the stupidest thing I did a
holiday party. But my girlfriend and I snuck away from
the main action and went to the laundry room and
set the washing machine on spin rints and I proceeded to.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Push we ramped up on the delay. Are you ready
to go with that button?
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Jo?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I'm ray okay, good.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
That was some great egg nug Anyway, somebody walked in
on us, and I said, that's okay, mate, we got
an egg nug starch. It was a good time. Was hey,
happy holidays every night?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Okay? That got awkward fast. That was awkward. Oh my,
oh my. He was like falling down the stairs. Yeah,
oh boy. Hey, hey, I don't care what anybody says.
You're a good Egg man, all right, you hear that,
good Egg. That's me. That's what a lot of people say,
good Egg. Thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
The latest on the Rob Ryan and Michelle Singer Reiner murders.
The story keeps getting more and more. I'm gonna say uncomfortable.
I don't like any of it. I don't like any
of this. The latest, of course, is that Nick Reiner
was charged to NBCLA was talking about that earlier.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
I like County office just filing the criminal complaints in
the last few minutes, detailing the allegations against Nick Reiner
that he took the lives of his parents over the week.
The initial appearance that Nick Reder was supposed to make
in court this morning was delayed, but La County GA
Nathan Hawkman says the case will move forward quickly.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah. Hey, Mark, I heard you doing this in your
news too.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You said it was delayed, uh, for medical reasons, But
they didn't really tell us what that was. We just
know some sort of a medical issue. Yeah, let's see here,
he wasn't medically cleared, is what they said. He hadn't
medically cleared. I don't have the full details on that,
but yeah, that's well. I don't think they told us
the full details. It's not your fault.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Uh, I think that information has been withheld from you,
which I think is bogus because you're a complete pro speculation.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
By the way, here's the attorney again right here.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Every inmate has to be medically cleared before they could
be transported to court.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
He has not been medically cleared.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
It's just a procedural issue. Oh yeah, just a procedural issue.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh wait a minute, Wait a minute, is it possible
that that you've got to just do a quick once
over and make sure they're not they're not harmed in
any way, shape or form, And they just hadn't gotten
to him yet. It's almost what it sounded like he said,
it's just a procedural issue. I'd only be guessing it'll
come out soon. Okay, very good.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Continuing on DA Nathan Hackman, they're saying his office will
evaluate the evidence and circumstances later on to decide whether
or not to pursue a death sentence.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
See. I don't think they're gonna go after the death penalty.
I don't think they are, and.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It could be because we're gonna find out that the
kid was on drugs, which of course has.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Been a big part of the story.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
They keep talking about how Nick Reiner had been in
and out of rehab numerous times over the last ten
to fifteen years, that this has been an ongoing issue
with him. They may say it wasn't in the right
mental state, something of that sort. But here's here's why
I think they're not gonna go after the death penalty.
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Biggest the Hakman is going to not pursue the death penalty,
and that is it doesn't seem like the kind of
thing that Rob and Michelle Singer Reiner would have wanted
for anyone, let alone their own son.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
And I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I'm making a big assumption here based on their very
outspoken liberalism, but I'm feeling confident enough to say that publicly.
I don't think that they would have wanted the death penalty,
especially for their son, even if they were the victims.
Now we can't ask them, which is tragic. The other thing,
and I'm not looking forward to this at all. This
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is what I think is going to be the most
heartbreaking of this entire saga as it starts to play out,
is that at some.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Point, if this goes to trial, the defense.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Is almost certainly going to cast the Hiners as dysfunctional
and possibly abusive. They're going to do everything they can
to lessen the impact on their client. So I would say,
get ready for total character assassination.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Get ready for it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And the sad thing is is that that Rob and
his wife are not here to defend themselves to give
a counter testimony. Tragically, what they're going to say is
that you know, Nick wasn't in his right mind, but
that his father had upset him after years of.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Abuse or something of that sort.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Right, That's that's what I'm I'm horrified that that could
be part of this case.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Because that's what defendants do.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And look, if you're if you're an attorney fighting for
the life of your defendant, quite literally, he could be
facing the death penalty, and you're fighting for their lives,
You're going to do whatever you can to to try
to get them a lesser penalty. Doesn't sound like there's
much of a question about whether or not he committed
the act. The question is whether or not you know
wasn't in his right mind, was it remeditated all those
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other things that go into I mean, you understand that
you listen to a handle on the law, you know
what it is. Does handle it talk about murder when
he does the show. I don't think I've ever heard
him talking about that. Usually it's about somebody's tree roots
are in their yard, or my neighbor's tree roots in
my yard.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
The thing about this that stood out to me initially
when I first heard about Ryaners being murdered, didn't know
about their son, didn't know about the fight that he
had at Conan O'Brien's house with that Nick and Rob
had had an argument at Conin O'Brien's house the night before,
at this big party. Which does Conan O'Brien ever have
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another holiday party? I don't think he does, because that's
kind of a downer. But the first thing I thought
was when I found out that they had been stabbed,
I thought, God, that is personal. Stabbing is very personal.
I mean, stabbing is such a vicious way to take
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someone's life, and I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
What to make of it.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I still don't without knowing more of the story, more
of the context, around what the circumstances were, which, of
course we'll find out later as the story evolves. But
I thought what happened that they were stabbed? Well, I
mean the thinking was this a robbery gone bad? You know,
because again we didn't know what was going on early
on as we're getting just this information about two bodies
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were found at the home of Robin Michelle Singer Reiner.
So I'm thinking, I'm thinking, was this a robbery gone bad?
And it was a weapon nearby? But then both people
were stabbed multiple times? Such a personal way of taking
someone else's life.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Well, the reporting that I'm seeing is that the shrots
were split. No, is that right? I hadn't seen that. Yeah, God,
is that vicious. It's absolutely horrifying. Oh my gosh. They
were discovered by their I did I did see that.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, I didn't hear the throats were So I mean,
we are we are talking, we are talking to somebody
who must have been seeing red right when they did that.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Yeah, and you talk about, you know, the charges and
death penalty. I wouldn't be shocked at all if he
pleaded out.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, yeah, because again, that doesn't seem like there's much
of a question here, right, and if they could just
plead out for life, a life sentence instead of the
death penalty and then take the deal.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Dude, Wow, God is that personal?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Onto another tragic celebrity death. And then, uh, we also
have another d lister who is walking away from a
company that he'll build. Uh, we've got accountability sharing the
Uh the floor lights tonight, it's next the fallout.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You're listening to KFI AM six on demand.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Uh, still become a new addiction is hit people across
California even though we outlawed it.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
How in the world.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yep, still happening, Still happening here, even though it's illegal,
and it's not. This is not drugs and alcohol. That's
happening to just everyday the schmucks like me. That is
that is going on. We'll tell you what that is
right after we get to Mark's nine thirty News. First,
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we were discussing Rob Reiner Michelle Singer Reiner murdered. Authority
said by their son Nick stabbed, although Mark was just
saying that we're getting reports that their throats were slash
which is so incredibly personal.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
So violent.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Chris.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
The reason I believe they were stabbed is because I
would think rub Reiner, being a liberal, would be very
anti gun. So there probably were not any guns in
the house, and his son probably didn't half guns.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, no, I hear you on that. That makes you're
probably right, there were no guns in the house. Probably
didn't have any guns.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
But even still, one of the arguments about violence in
America is that we have violence because it is easier
to commit violence with a firearm.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Right, it is. It is just easier. It's less personal.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And so if you're going to commit violence with a
knife and there isn't a firearm, handy, right, I get
what you're saying. That makes that makes sense to me,
But it's still the idea that not only are you
going to commit violence, that you know you're about to
commit very personal violence.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And that is just remarkable to me, just crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That that would that whatever is going on in his head,
that he would become so enraged if the authorities are
right and he did it, you know, allegedly all that crap.
I want to make sure we don't get sued for
passing misinformation, but based on what we know, it's just
to me, my mind can't wrap around that. I mean,
(11:07):
I've been I was a teenager. I hated my parents
when I was fifteen too. I get it, but I
can't imagine whatever the pain is in his mind that
brought him to see that red and become that violent.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
It just blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
The response by the President has caught an awful lot
of attention because he basically said that he died because
of his Trump derangement syndrome, and even a number of
conservatives said, no, that's that's not cool, man, that's too much.
So a number of people have spoken out. The President
(11:44):
was asked about it, he kind of doubled down on it.
Now there's a little bit more fallout. The wrestler Mick Foley,
who was a pretty popular guy with WWEE for those
that are not fans of the performance art that is wrestling,
a pretty popular guy for a while there, kind of
(12:04):
a blue collar type wrestler.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
He basically just said.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You know what I'm done from a wrestling specific putting
this in our entertainment segment from a wrestling specific.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Broadcaster.
Speaker 9 (12:22):
Hey, I'm Scott Johnson, host of Going Ringside, Breaking News.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
WWE legend.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
Mick Foley has just cut ties with WWE because of
their relationship with President Trump. This is what he just
posted on social media, parting ways with WWE. While I've
been concerned about ww's close relationship with Donald Trump for
several months, especially in light of he goes on to
an statement on immigration, but this is what he says.
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I no longer wish to represent a company that coddles
a man so seemingly void of compassion as he marches
our country towards autocracy. Last night and formed WW Talent
Relations that I would not be making any appearances for
the company as long as this man remains in office. Additionally,
I will not be signing a new Legends deal when
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my current one expires in June. I love WWE, will
always treasure my time with them, and I am deeply
appreciative for all the opportunities they afforded me. But in
the words of Popeye the Sailor, I stands all I
can stands, and I can't stands no more.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
All Right, So, obviously he's got some liberal viewpoints, right.
But evidently the final straw had to do with the
truth social post. He said he's been concerned with it,
and he said, reading the President's incredibly cruel comments and
the wake of Rob Ryder's death is the final straw
for me. So, look, you're going to have people who
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are liberal that are breaking away from companies that are
associated with President Trump. That's the first thing. The question
is is this a one off or is this starting
a trend. I'm not I'm not ready to call this
a trend yet. And the President doesn't really need to work. Look,
the President says things, the President tweets things, the President
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gets out over his skis when it comes to some
of his some of his interactions, especially on social media.
So nothing to worry about quite yet. And again, fully
made himself pretty clear that he's a pretty liberal guy.
So not all that surprising that this guy's made that decision. However,
I think Susie Wiles and some of the others that
are in the administration are going to be watching to
see if there's other fallout, if there are other names
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that have more conservative leanings that say I don't want
to do appearances. Maybe they're not so vocal like Mick
Foley was, but maybe they go, you know what, I
I just I need to step away. I need to
step out of the spotlight a little bit. I need
to let things cool down a little bit. If we
start to see that, then I think you're going to
see a shift in the communication tone from the White House.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
But I also think we are a long long way
from that long way.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Meanwhile, another tragedy that hit us a while ago, of course,
was the death of Matthew Perry. An update on another
one of the doctors I was involved in getting him the.
Speaker 10 (15:08):
Good breaking news, a doctor who plays from fled guilty
for his role in the death of friend star Matthew Perry,
will spend less than a year in home confinement. Doctor
Mark Chavez was sentenced to eight months home confinement followed
by three years of supervised release. Chavez admitted to fraudulently
obtaining ketamine from his former clinic and a wholesale distributor.
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He then sold the ketymine to doctor Salvador Placinsia, who
passed it on to Perry.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Oh yeah, that was the guy that got the longer sentence.
Speaker 10 (15:38):
Chaves told prosecutors that he was aware the drugs were
going to Perry and the actor was administering them himself.
Placentia surrendered his medical license as was sentenced to thirty
months in prison earlier this month. Chavez also agreed to
surrender his medical license and faces up to ten years
in federal prison.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, but if the other guy got thirty months, he's yeah,
not gonna do more. But uh, anyway, this dude got
eight months of home confinement and community service. Eight months,
but he had a surrenderous license. What does a doctor
do if they're no longer a doctor? Genuine question. He
gets an eight month home confinement and community service sentence,
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it doesn't get prison time.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
But the guy's not a doctor anymore.
Speaker 11 (16:23):
They could get their nursing license and shoot me up
with botox.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Uh good call. I don't think that the board would
give him a license though. I don't think the medical
board is going to be like, oh yeah, you can
be a doctor, but you can be a nurse.
Speaker 11 (16:37):
Anyone can shoot me with bowtos.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Well, maybe that's what he'll do. Maybe he'll just go
to TJ.
Speaker 11 (16:41):
I'll take it.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Leave it to Nikki to save the day. Uh, Nikki,
you can be a career coach.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I know.
Speaker 11 (16:51):
I just tell everybody to shut their mouths and get
on the poll.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Jeez, all right, it starts as a game on your phone,
It ends with you living in a box. Researchers are
warning that this game is turning very dark and there's
a growing group of young men who are succumbing to it.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
That's next you're listening to KFI AM six on demand.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I was reading a story.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
About the sports gambling and how that's taken off. And
you know, we said in California no to sports gambling.
We said, nope, sports betting is going to be a
no no. I mean we even had a we even
had a petition, you know, a referendum on it, and
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the people said nope, no, go on that one. And
yet they found end a rounds, They found ways around this.
I think you can still on Calshi on polymarket. I mean,
there's still sports gambling available in California, even though we've
basically said no to DraftKings and fan duel. Those are
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the big ones nationwide. So I'm seeing some of the
fallout from it. And if I'm being honest, this is
gonna sound terrible. But if I'm being honest, it isn't
that bad. And here's why. Since twenty seventeen, the National
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Problem Gambling Helpline has seen an increase in calls one
hundred and forty eight percent increase in the number of
people contacting the National Problem Gambling Helpline.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
All right, and so we're.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Supposed to look at that and go, oh my gosh,
that's insane.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
You got so many.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
You got two and a half times as many people
calling the gambling helpline. Is what you did before? That's crazy, okay,
but before it was illegal. Now it's legal now. Every
time I turn on red Zone, which is how I
watch my NFL, every time I turn on red Zone,
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you know they run. There's there's pop ups going on
in the stadiums, DraftKings fandom when I watch. When I
watch a Sunday night game, the national broadcast, it seems
like every other commercial is FanDuel, DraftKings and bet MGM,
whatever it is to watch the Monday night game, it's
the same thing.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
It's everywhere. It's all over the place.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
When it comes to sports, I watch a lot of
the national broadcasts, the streamers, that kind of stuff. That
and I also use a VPN, so things don't know
that I'm in California, not because I'm gambling. I haven't
actually put any money on sports betting in in a
long time, I truth be told. I when it was illegal.
I opened an offshore account, which a lot of people
were doing. I was certainly not alone in that. I
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opened an offshore account, and then I got to notice
a couple of years ago that said, well, our offshore
account has been banned in America, so you can't deposit
any more money. You can continue to bet with what
you have in your account, and then you withdraw any time. Yeah,
like a couple hundred bucks in there, and the to
withdraw that money is like fifty bucks. So I just think, okay, well,
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periodically I'll put five ten dollars on something. It's play money.
I'm never gonna get it back anyway. So as far
as I was concerned, I lost that money. I haven't
even touched that account. I don't think I even put
a bed down this entire year in the NFL. I bet,
it's been a year since I put any money down.
So here's the thing. Before it was illegal and we
were going to these bovadas and this other the offshore stuff,
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right that was happening, and so people were getting they
were spending too much money. They were calling a national
problem gambling helpline. Then it became legal and it's being
advertised constantly. The big casinos are all sponsoring their own
sports books on your phones, the apps. Plus you've got
the DraftKings and the fan duel. So the advertising is everywhere,
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the access is everywhere. The amount of money rolling in
right now is outrageous, I mean absolutely outrageous. Nationwide, total
tax revenue collected by state from sports betting the first
quarter alone of twenty twenty five was nearly a billion dollars,
the second quarter over nine hundred and fifty million dollars.
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So you're talking about, let's just round this down for
conservative's sake, you're talking three billion dollars a year in
tax revenue alone just from sports gambling. And yet the
number of people that have called the national problem gambling helpline,
albeit a shocking number when it goes up one hundred
and forty eight percent, doesn't even compare to the number
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of people who are gambling.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Now versus before.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
If we take a look at the number of people
gambling in twenty seventeen, and that number is not in
front of you, by the way, versus the number of
people with access to it and can gamble now, it
is far more than two and a half times as
many people I put money on that.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
See what I did? I put money on Now.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
The concern that people have, however, is that the number
of calls from states where sports betting is not legal
has also gone up. And this case has gone up
forty five, so half again as many people calling a
national gambling helpline. So in places like California, we're not legal,
you still have people contacting it and saying I got
a problem. Nick Watt is a reporter with CNN, and
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he dove a little bit deeper into the gambling condition.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Gambling and embedded in our DNA.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
We love it from the moment we're born.
Speaker 12 (22:23):
Ancient Egyptians bet on chariot racing, ancient Greeks on the
og Olympics, and Americans have been betting on which horse
can run fastest for over three hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
But online gambling is a fundamentally different product. The human
brain's not built to absorb an addictive product at light
speed like that. But that's the new business model.
Speaker 12 (22:48):
Explain to me why it's so addictive. I have quote
an addictive personality. You know, I've been addicted to alcohol,
but gambling has never interested me at all.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
As you well know I'm a gambling act in recovery.
I made my last bet on April twenty seven, in
twenty fourteen. But I'm not an alcoholic. We don't know
why certain things trigger responses in people.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I mean don't we Is it dopamine or is it
something else. It's just like a drug, alcohol addiction.
Speaker 12 (23:20):
He's now a gambling addiction therapist.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Gambling addiction is an addiction, just like heroin and opioids,
tobacco and alcohol and cocaine.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, And obviously we're wired differently to be susceptible to
different ones. And I also think it's one of those
that has an awful lot of peer pressure attached to it.
It's not unlike a peer pressure that we face when
it comes to being a teenager. And come on, just
have a just try this cigarette, hey, come on, just
drink this beer, right, I mean, it's all peer pressure.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
It's the same thing. Right now, I gotta tell you,
I got a bunch of buddies. We'll hang out in
half the conversation. We text.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We live in differ parts of the country. We've all
lived near each other at some point, but we all
live in different parts of the country now. And I
gotta tell you, half the conversations are what somebody, somebody's
put money on so and so, somebody's asking should I
take this bet? I basically, and I told you I
haven't bet in a long time. And the reason I'm
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still in this text threat is because, first of all,
I love these guys. They're They're my closest friends, close
enough I would even help them move if they asked.
So WHOA, yeah, I give them a ride to the airport.
As Mark l likes to say, that's a real test
of friends, is yep. And then a second, I love
to mock them mercilessly when they lose. Oh god, it's
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my favorite thing to do. Oh you're seeing. All I
want for Christmas is for my parlate to hit. And
when they do that stuff, I'm just like, dear Travis,
do you think maybe you have a problem?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Which going?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
A problem I can stop anytime I want. Okay, very good,
very good? Of course you know that every night at
ten o'clock, George Norri takes over with the Coast to
Coast and I thought I would throw out a little
UFO conspiracy culture update because we're going from the message
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(25:17):
most powerful filmmakers alive. Nobody loves aliens more than Steven Spielberg.
And it's possible that we found out why. Well, the
dark corners of the Internet are suspecting drives.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
This fascination is next.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And taking over here in about ten minutes with Coast
to Coast is the great George Norri. George, what can
we expect tonight, my friend?
Speaker 10 (25:43):
Yes, first couple hours We're going to talk about some
real science, and later on I've got a Tarot card
reader coming on the show to talk about us on
Coast to Coast.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
All right, George, I'll be listening. Have a great show.
Thank you very much, Thank you very much. All right,
So here we go. I save this specifically because I
wanted this to be the lead into Georgia's show.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
This is just fantastic. Steven Spielberg may actually know aliens.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yes, he's got a new film coming out called Disclosure Day.
And I just saw the trailer. Trailer just just dropped.
Was it yesterday or earlier today that I dropped? I
thought it was today. It today Okay, yeah, I'm saying,
like the oldest one I see is like eleven hours
ago that it went out. So yeah, and I watched
part of this trailer and it is ominous, eerie, edge
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of your.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Seat, Okay, whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So I love that the Internet has gone crazy and
the Internet is pretty sure thanks to Ronald Reagan that
Steven Spielberg knows aliens first of all. The movie that's
coming out, Disclosure Day, Emily Blunt, Colin Firth, joshua'connor, Coleman Domingo,
great cast.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Love this.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
The Disclosure Day thing is about American authorities having secret
information about UFOs and extraterrestrial life and they want it
to be publicly revealed. And then they termed this all
disclosure obviously, and so they figured out a way to
disclose it to everyone all at once. That's kind of
the premise of the film, all right. That said, people
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are going crazy about Steven Spielberg. The theory is Spielberg
has been chosen to deliver the next phase of disclosure,
not a league in the traditional sense, but a carefully
constructed big reveal. In other words, he's part of a
government conspiracy to condition us to be ready for the
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revelation that we do have aliens among us. And I
should also point out that President Trump has a rest
tomorrow where they're not telling anybody what's going on. Is
it possible that tomorrow night we find out that we
have made contact or that indeed we do have the
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body of an extraterrestrial? Is tomorrow the day? And I
know what you're thinking, Chris, you're crazy. Of course it's not,
and you're right, But that doesn't stop us from irresponsibly speculating. Now,
how is it that it's Reagan's fault that we all
think that Steven Spielberg has access to aliens? So et
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comes out nineteen eighty two, All right, who's president nineteen
eighty two?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Ronald Reagan?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
So Ronald Reagan invites Spielberg to the White House to
watch the to watch a screening of et Okay. Film
gets done. Reagan in his classic style. You know how,
he was known for delivering jokes with the very wry
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sense of humor. And I love that, by the way.
I love a good, dry, almost British sense of humor.
It's great. He gets up and he said, this is Reagan.
There are a number of people in this room, who
know that everything on that screen is absolutely true. In
other words, he's sort of saying, ha ha ha, you
just saw a movie about the government coming in to
cover up an alien you know, alien contact.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Ha ha ha. Obviously many people in here know that
that's totally true. Ha ha ha ha ha.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Right, Okay, so the whole room laughs because he says,
you know, he says like a joke. Spielberg, though, in
recalling the story, said Reagan wasn't smiling as he said it.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
And so now the.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Conspiracy theory is that the reason Spielberg is so into
aliens because it seems like everything he touches has got
aliens involved, even if it doesn't have aliens involved. He
crow bars aliens in see Indiana Jones, Crystal Skull, and
and so the reason that he's so obsessed with that
is because he knows the truth.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
That's it. He knows the truth. But then there's another
conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Are you ready for the conspiracy theory.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
It is a meta conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It is a conspiracy theory about the conspiracy theory.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
First of all, first conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Steven Spielberg been hired by the government to try to
condition us to get ready for a revelation that aliens
are among us.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Boom conspiracy theory, second conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
The first conspiracy theory was planted in order to create
additional buzz around everything. Spielberg touches yep, and now my
watch is listening. I don't know if you've heard that.
Did they come out over there? Did you hear that?
I thought you were talking to someone, Yeah, my watch was.
My watch was listening and jumped right in. So obviously
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the government is in on that too. They're listening and
they know what's up. So they say that the secrecy,
the the hush hush, and now this little buzz could
be a strategy to build this hype for a film.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Who I guess.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Spielberg hasn't had a hit since Ready Player one. Mark
you and I didn't even see that one. I didn't either.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
It's been a while since he's done something super popular.
I mean, and that's after making the first blockbuster, which was.
Speaker 11 (31:25):
John How old did the Fableman's Do?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I didn't see that either. I didn't.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
They received seven Oscar nominations.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
We got those in our sag after screeners, and I
just couldn't bring myself to sit through.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
It was that? Was that Spielberg? Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
It wasn't going with David Lynch as as John Houston
or no was produced by Spielberg, not John Houston, because
it was supposed to be loosely about.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Oh yea yea yeah yeah, okay, yeah yeah yeah, directed
by oh yeah, directed by Spielberg, written by Spielberg.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Huh, No, I didn't see it. I should have watched that.
Everyone was good. That's a fun watch, is it? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (32:05):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Aliens?
Speaker 13 (32:06):
I remember the good kind of in a way. It's
actually kind of its kind of touching on what's happening
now with everyone using what is it, the the meta
thing that they used for virtual reality. It's like that
yeah reality mask thing are ar? Yeah? Yeah, all right,
(32:30):
I'm down. I got nothing else anybody else? No, all good.
It's probably a good time to just end it. Then,
Love you guys.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Uh foosh as always brother, virtual fist bump Mark. I
think we're the opportunity for me to take the lead, don't.
We're tired. We're tired. We're gonna end on a tie today.
You know why?
Speaker 4 (32:52):
No? I do not know why, because we're both Yeah,
complete pros. Yes we are. I think the tie remains. Yeah.
And then Nikki, Yes, yeah, you punched in today too.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
With Chips, Nicky's great.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Early as m R for the night.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
All Right, we'll see if we can. Uh, we'll see
we can bring you up a little better tomorrow. We'll
give it a shot anyway. It's Chris Merrill talking brut
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Speaker 2 (00:05):
Give you the lads here that we know about the
Rob Reiner, Nick Reiner, that the whole story is, it's
evolving in front of us. And I should also mention
Michelle Singer Reiner. I want to make sure I don't
forget about her, also tragic victim in the entire story.
But I asked you the question before we went to
Mark's News there. I said, look, what is the biggest
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mistake that you ever made at at a company holiday party.
Speaker 3 (00:32):
I can't say it's the stupidest thing I did a
holiday party. But my girlfriend and I snuck away from
the main action and went to the laundry room and
set the washing machine on spin rints and I proceeded to.
Speaker 4 (00:47):
Push we ramped up on the delay. Are you ready
to go with that button?
Speaker 5 (00:51):
Jo?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I'm ray okay, good.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
That was some great egg nug Anyway, somebody walked in
on us, and I said, that's okay, mate, we got
an egg nug starch. It was a good time. Was hey,
happy holidays every night?
Speaker 4 (01:05):
Okay? That got awkward fast. That was awkward. Oh my,
oh my. He was like falling down the stairs. Yeah,
oh boy. Hey, hey, I don't care what anybody says.
You're a good Egg man, all right, you hear that,
good Egg. That's me. That's what a lot of people say,
good Egg. Thank you. I appreciate that.
Speaker 2 (01:30):
The latest on the Rob Ryan and Michelle Singer Reiner murders.
The story keeps getting more and more. I'm gonna say uncomfortable.
I don't like any of it. I don't like any
of this. The latest, of course, is that Nick Reiner
was charged to NBCLA was talking about that earlier.
Speaker 6 (01:50):
I like County office just filing the criminal complaints in
the last few minutes, detailing the allegations against Nick Reiner
that he took the lives of his parents over the week.
The initial appearance that Nick Reder was supposed to make
in court this morning was delayed, but La County GA
Nathan Hawkman says the case will move forward quickly.
Speaker 4 (02:09):
Yeah. Hey, Mark, I heard you doing this in your
news too.
Speaker 2 (02:12):
You said it was delayed, uh, for medical reasons, But
they didn't really tell us what that was. We just
know some sort of a medical issue. Yeah, let's see here,
he wasn't medically cleared, is what they said. He hadn't
medically cleared. I don't have the full details on that,
but yeah, that's well. I don't think they told us
the full details. It's not your fault.
Speaker 4 (02:31):
I think that.
Speaker 2 (02:32):
Uh, I think that information has been withheld from you,
which I think is bogus because you're a complete pro speculation.
Speaker 4 (02:40):
By the way, here's the attorney again right here.
Speaker 5 (02:42):
Every inmate has to be medically cleared before they could
be transported to court.
Speaker 1 (02:46):
He has not been medically cleared.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
It's just a procedural issue. Oh yeah, just a procedural issue.
Speaker 2 (02:52):
Oh wait a minute, Wait a minute, is it possible
that that you've got to just do a quick once
over and make sure they're not they're not harmed in
any way, shape or form, And they just hadn't gotten
to him yet. It's almost what it sounded like he said,
it's just a procedural issue. I'd only be guessing it'll
come out soon. Okay, very good.
Speaker 6 (03:12):
Continuing on DA Nathan Hackman, they're saying his office will
evaluate the evidence and circumstances later on to decide whether
or not to pursue a death sentence.
Speaker 4 (03:22):
See. I don't think they're gonna go after the death penalty.
I don't think they are, and.
Speaker 2 (03:31):
It could be because we're gonna find out that the
kid was on drugs, which of course has.
Speaker 4 (03:37):
Been a big part of the story.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
They keep talking about how Nick Reiner had been in
and out of rehab numerous times over the last ten
to fifteen years, that this has been an ongoing issue
with him. They may say it wasn't in the right
mental state, something of that sort. But here's here's why
I think they're not gonna go after the death penalty.
(03:59):
Biggest the Hakman is going to not pursue the death penalty,
and that is it doesn't seem like the kind of
thing that Rob and Michelle Singer Reiner would have wanted
for anyone, let alone their own son.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
And I could be wrong.
Speaker 2 (04:14):
I'm making a big assumption here based on their very
outspoken liberalism, but I'm feeling confident enough to say that publicly.
I don't think that they would have wanted the death penalty,
especially for their son, even if they were the victims.
Now we can't ask them, which is tragic. The other thing,
and I'm not looking forward to this at all. This
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is what I think is going to be the most
heartbreaking of this entire saga as it starts to play out,
is that at some.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
Point, if this goes to trial, the defense.
Speaker 2 (04:52):
Is almost certainly going to cast the Hiners as dysfunctional
and possibly abusive. They're going to do everything they can
to lessen the impact on their client. So I would say,
get ready for total character assassination.
Speaker 4 (05:08):
Get ready for it.
Speaker 2 (05:10):
And the sad thing is is that that Rob and
his wife are not here to defend themselves to give
a counter testimony. Tragically, what they're going to say is
that you know, Nick wasn't in his right mind, but
that his father had upset him after years of.
Speaker 4 (05:26):
Abuse or something of that sort.
Speaker 2 (05:28):
Right, That's that's what I'm I'm horrified that that could
be part of this case.
Speaker 4 (05:35):
Because that's what defendants do.
Speaker 2 (05:38):
And look, if you're if you're an attorney fighting for
the life of your defendant, quite literally, he could be
facing the death penalty, and you're fighting for their lives,
You're going to do whatever you can to to try
to get them a lesser penalty. Doesn't sound like there's
much of a question about whether or not he committed
the act. The question is whether or not you know
wasn't in his right mind, was it remeditated all those
(06:01):
other things that go into I mean, you understand that
you listen to a handle on the law, you know
what it is. Does handle it talk about murder when
he does the show. I don't think I've ever heard
him talking about that. Usually it's about somebody's tree roots
are in their yard, or my neighbor's tree roots in
my yard.
Speaker 4 (06:15):
I don't like it.
Speaker 2 (06:17):
The thing about this that stood out to me initially
when I first heard about Ryaners being murdered, didn't know
about their son, didn't know about the fight that he
had at Conan O'Brien's house with that Nick and Rob
had had an argument at Conin O'Brien's house the night before,
at this big party. Which does Conan O'Brien ever have
(06:39):
another holiday party? I don't think he does, because that's
kind of a downer. But the first thing I thought
was when I found out that they had been stabbed,
I thought, God, that is personal. Stabbing is very personal.
I mean, stabbing is such a vicious way to take
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someone's life, and I didn't know.
Speaker 4 (07:05):
What to make of it.
Speaker 2 (07:07):
I still don't without knowing more of the story, more
of the context, around what the circumstances were, which, of
course we'll find out later as the story evolves. But
I thought what happened that they were stabbed? Well, I
mean the thinking was this a robbery gone bad? You know,
because again we didn't know what was going on early
on as we're getting just this information about two bodies
(07:27):
were found at the home of Robin Michelle Singer Reiner.
So I'm thinking, I'm thinking, was this a robbery gone bad?
And it was a weapon nearby? But then both people
were stabbed multiple times? Such a personal way of taking
someone else's life.
Speaker 4 (07:44):
Well, the reporting that I'm seeing is that the shrots
were split. No, is that right? I hadn't seen that. Yeah, God,
is that vicious. It's absolutely horrifying. Oh my gosh. They
were discovered by their I did I did see that.
Speaker 2 (08:01):
Yeah, I didn't hear the throats were So I mean,
we are we are talking, we are talking to somebody
who must have been seeing red right when they did that.
Speaker 7 (08:13):
Yeah, and you talk about, you know, the charges and
death penalty. I wouldn't be shocked at all if he
pleaded out.
Speaker 2 (08:21):
Yeah, yeah, because again, that doesn't seem like there's much
of a question here, right, and if they could just
plead out for life, a life sentence instead of the
death penalty and then take the deal.
Speaker 4 (08:30):
Dude, Wow, God is that personal?
Speaker 2 (08:37):
Onto another tragic celebrity death. And then, uh, we also
have another d lister who is walking away from a
company that he'll build. Uh, we've got accountability sharing the
Uh the floor lights tonight, it's next the fallout.
Speaker 1 (08:52):
You're listening to KFI AM six on demand.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
Uh, still become a new addiction is hit people across
California even though we outlawed it.
Speaker 4 (09:03):
How in the world.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
Yep, still happening, Still happening here, even though it's illegal,
and it's not. This is not drugs and alcohol. That's
happening to just everyday the schmucks like me. That is
that is going on. We'll tell you what that is
right after we get to Mark's nine thirty News. First,
(09:25):
we were discussing Rob Reiner Michelle Singer Reiner murdered. Authority
said by their son Nick stabbed, although Mark was just
saying that we're getting reports that their throats were slash
which is so incredibly personal.
Speaker 4 (09:44):
So violent.
Speaker 5 (09:45):
Chris.
Speaker 8 (09:45):
The reason I believe they were stabbed is because I
would think rub Reiner, being a liberal, would be very
anti gun. So there probably were not any guns in
the house, and his son probably didn't half guns.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah, no, I hear you on that. That makes you're
probably right, there were no guns in the house. Probably
didn't have any guns.
Speaker 4 (10:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
But even still, one of the arguments about violence in
America is that we have violence because it is easier
to commit violence with a firearm.
Speaker 4 (10:18):
Right, it is. It is just easier. It's less personal.
Speaker 2 (10:23):
And so if you're going to commit violence with a
knife and there isn't a firearm, handy, right, I get
what you're saying. That makes that makes sense to me,
But it's still the idea that not only are you
going to commit violence, that you know you're about to
commit very personal violence.
Speaker 4 (10:40):
And that is just remarkable to me, just crazy.
Speaker 2 (10:44):
That that would that whatever is going on in his head,
that he would become so enraged if the authorities are
right and he did it, you know, allegedly all that crap.
I want to make sure we don't get sued for
passing misinformation, but based on what we know, it's just
to me, my mind can't wrap around that. I mean,
(11:07):
I've been I was a teenager. I hated my parents
when I was fifteen too. I get it, but I
can't imagine whatever the pain is in his mind that
brought him to see that red and become that violent.
Speaker 4 (11:20):
It just blows my mind.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
The response by the President has caught an awful lot
of attention because he basically said that he died because
of his Trump derangement syndrome, and even a number of
conservatives said, no, that's that's not cool, man, that's too much.
So a number of people have spoken out. The President
(11:44):
was asked about it, he kind of doubled down on it.
Now there's a little bit more fallout. The wrestler Mick Foley,
who was a pretty popular guy with WWEE for those
that are not fans of the performance art that is wrestling,
a pretty popular guy for a while there, kind of
(12:04):
a blue collar type wrestler.
Speaker 4 (12:08):
He basically just said.
Speaker 2 (12:09):
You know what I'm done from a wrestling specific putting
this in our entertainment segment from a wrestling specific.
Speaker 4 (12:22):
Broadcaster.
Speaker 9 (12:22):
Hey, I'm Scott Johnson, host of Going Ringside, Breaking News.
Speaker 4 (12:25):
WWE legend.
Speaker 9 (12:26):
Mick Foley has just cut ties with WWE because of
their relationship with President Trump. This is what he just
posted on social media, parting ways with WWE. While I've
been concerned about ww's close relationship with Donald Trump for
several months, especially in light of he goes on to
an statement on immigration, but this is what he says.
(12:47):
I no longer wish to represent a company that coddles
a man so seemingly void of compassion as he marches
our country towards autocracy. Last night and formed WW Talent
Relations that I would not be making any appearances for
the company as long as this man remains in office. Additionally,
I will not be signing a new Legends deal when
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my current one expires in June. I love WWE, will
always treasure my time with them, and I am deeply
appreciative for all the opportunities they afforded me. But in
the words of Popeye the Sailor, I stands all I
can stands, and I can't stands no more.
Speaker 2 (13:22):
All Right, So, obviously he's got some liberal viewpoints, right.
But evidently the final straw had to do with the
truth social post. He said he's been concerned with it,
and he said, reading the President's incredibly cruel comments and
the wake of Rob Ryder's death is the final straw
for me. So, look, you're going to have people who
(13:47):
are liberal that are breaking away from companies that are
associated with President Trump. That's the first thing. The question
is is this a one off or is this starting
a trend. I'm not I'm not ready to call this
a trend yet. And the President doesn't really need to work. Look,
the President says things, the President tweets things, the President
(14:08):
gets out over his skis when it comes to some
of his some of his interactions, especially on social media.
So nothing to worry about quite yet. And again, fully
made himself pretty clear that he's a pretty liberal guy.
So not all that surprising that this guy's made that decision. However,
I think Susie Wiles and some of the others that
are in the administration are going to be watching to
see if there's other fallout, if there are other names
(14:31):
that have more conservative leanings that say I don't want
to do appearances. Maybe they're not so vocal like Mick
Foley was, but maybe they go, you know what, I
I just I need to step away. I need to
step out of the spotlight a little bit. I need
to let things cool down a little bit. If we
start to see that, then I think you're going to
see a shift in the communication tone from the White House.
Speaker 4 (14:54):
But I also think we are a long long way
from that long way.
Speaker 2 (14:57):
Meanwhile, another tragedy that hit us a while ago, of course,
was the death of Matthew Perry. An update on another
one of the doctors I was involved in getting him the.
Speaker 10 (15:08):
Good breaking news, a doctor who plays from fled guilty
for his role in the death of friend star Matthew Perry,
will spend less than a year in home confinement. Doctor
Mark Chavez was sentenced to eight months home confinement followed
by three years of supervised release. Chavez admitted to fraudulently
obtaining ketamine from his former clinic and a wholesale distributor.
(15:31):
He then sold the ketymine to doctor Salvador Placinsia, who
passed it on to Perry.
Speaker 4 (15:35):
Oh yeah, that was the guy that got the longer sentence.
Speaker 10 (15:38):
Chaves told prosecutors that he was aware the drugs were
going to Perry and the actor was administering them himself.
Placentia surrendered his medical license as was sentenced to thirty
months in prison earlier this month. Chavez also agreed to
surrender his medical license and faces up to ten years
in federal prison.
Speaker 4 (15:58):
Wow.
Speaker 2 (15:59):
Yeah, but if the other guy got thirty months, he's yeah,
not gonna do more. But uh, anyway, this dude got
eight months of home confinement and community service. Eight months,
but he had a surrenderous license. What does a doctor
do if they're no longer a doctor? Genuine question. He
gets an eight month home confinement and community service sentence,
(16:19):
it doesn't get prison time.
Speaker 4 (16:20):
But the guy's not a doctor anymore.
Speaker 11 (16:23):
They could get their nursing license and shoot me up
with botox.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Uh good call. I don't think that the board would
give him a license though. I don't think the medical
board is going to be like, oh yeah, you can
be a doctor, but you can be a nurse.
Speaker 11 (16:37):
Anyone can shoot me with bowtos.
Speaker 4 (16:39):
Well, maybe that's what he'll do. Maybe he'll just go
to TJ.
Speaker 11 (16:41):
I'll take it.
Speaker 4 (16:45):
Leave it to Nikki to save the day. Uh, Nikki,
you can be a career coach.
Speaker 3 (16:51):
I know.
Speaker 11 (16:51):
I just tell everybody to shut their mouths and get
on the poll.
Speaker 2 (16:57):
Jeez, all right, it starts as a game on your phone,
It ends with you living in a box. Researchers are
warning that this game is turning very dark and there's
a growing group of young men who are succumbing to it.
Speaker 1 (17:09):
That's next you're listening to KFI AM six on demand.
Speaker 4 (17:15):
I was reading a story.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
About the sports gambling and how that's taken off. And
you know, we said in California no to sports gambling.
We said, nope, sports betting is going to be a
no no. I mean we even had a we even
had a petition, you know, a referendum on it, and
(17:39):
the people said nope, no, go on that one. And
yet they found end a rounds, They found ways around this.
I think you can still on Calshi on polymarket. I mean,
there's still sports gambling available in California, even though we've
basically said no to DraftKings and fan duel. Those are
(17:59):
the big ones nationwide. So I'm seeing some of the
fallout from it. And if I'm being honest, this is
gonna sound terrible. But if I'm being honest, it isn't
that bad. And here's why. Since twenty seventeen, the National
(18:20):
Problem Gambling Helpline has seen an increase in calls one
hundred and forty eight percent increase in the number of
people contacting the National Problem Gambling Helpline.
Speaker 4 (18:30):
All right, and so we're.
Speaker 2 (18:31):
Supposed to look at that and go, oh my gosh,
that's insane.
Speaker 4 (18:39):
You got so many.
Speaker 2 (18:40):
You got two and a half times as many people
calling the gambling helpline. Is what you did before? That's crazy, okay,
but before it was illegal. Now it's legal now. Every
time I turn on red Zone, which is how I
watch my NFL, every time I turn on red Zone,
(19:01):
you know they run. There's there's pop ups going on
in the stadiums, DraftKings fandom when I watch. When I
watch a Sunday night game, the national broadcast, it seems
like every other commercial is FanDuel, DraftKings and bet MGM,
whatever it is to watch the Monday night game, it's
the same thing.
Speaker 4 (19:18):
It's everywhere. It's all over the place.
Speaker 2 (19:20):
When it comes to sports, I watch a lot of
the national broadcasts, the streamers, that kind of stuff. That
and I also use a VPN, so things don't know
that I'm in California, not because I'm gambling. I haven't
actually put any money on sports betting in in a
long time, I truth be told. I when it was illegal.
I opened an offshore account, which a lot of people
were doing. I was certainly not alone in that. I
(19:44):
opened an offshore account, and then I got to notice
a couple of years ago that said, well, our offshore
account has been banned in America, so you can't deposit
any more money. You can continue to bet with what
you have in your account, and then you withdraw any time. Yeah,
like a couple hundred bucks in there, and the to
withdraw that money is like fifty bucks. So I just think, okay, well,
(20:04):
periodically I'll put five ten dollars on something. It's play money.
I'm never gonna get it back anyway. So as far
as I was concerned, I lost that money. I haven't
even touched that account. I don't think I even put
a bed down this entire year in the NFL. I bet,
it's been a year since I put any money down.
So here's the thing. Before it was illegal and we
were going to these bovadas and this other the offshore stuff,
(20:27):
right that was happening, and so people were getting they
were spending too much money. They were calling a national
problem gambling helpline. Then it became legal and it's being
advertised constantly. The big casinos are all sponsoring their own
sports books on your phones, the apps. Plus you've got
the DraftKings and the fan duel. So the advertising is everywhere,
(20:48):
the access is everywhere. The amount of money rolling in
right now is outrageous, I mean absolutely outrageous. Nationwide, total
tax revenue collected by state from sports betting the first
quarter alone of twenty twenty five was nearly a billion dollars,
the second quarter over nine hundred and fifty million dollars.
(21:11):
So you're talking about, let's just round this down for
conservative's sake, you're talking three billion dollars a year in
tax revenue alone just from sports gambling. And yet the
number of people that have called the national problem gambling helpline,
albeit a shocking number when it goes up one hundred
and forty eight percent, doesn't even compare to the number
(21:32):
of people who are gambling.
Speaker 4 (21:33):
Now versus before.
Speaker 2 (21:34):
If we take a look at the number of people
gambling in twenty seventeen, and that number is not in
front of you, by the way, versus the number of
people with access to it and can gamble now, it
is far more than two and a half times as
many people I put money on that.
Speaker 4 (21:48):
See what I did? I put money on Now.
Speaker 2 (21:51):
The concern that people have, however, is that the number
of calls from states where sports betting is not legal
has also gone up. And this case has gone up
forty five, so half again as many people calling a
national gambling helpline. So in places like California, we're not legal,
you still have people contacting it and saying I got
a problem. Nick Watt is a reporter with CNN, and
(22:13):
he dove a little bit deeper into the gambling condition.
Speaker 4 (22:17):
Gambling and embedded in our DNA.
Speaker 2 (22:19):
We love it from the moment we're born.
Speaker 12 (22:23):
Ancient Egyptians bet on chariot racing, ancient Greeks on the
og Olympics, and Americans have been betting on which horse
can run fastest for over three hundred and fifty years.
Speaker 5 (22:35):
But online gambling is a fundamentally different product. The human
brain's not built to absorb an addictive product at light
speed like that. But that's the new business model.
Speaker 12 (22:48):
Explain to me why it's so addictive. I have quote
an addictive personality. You know, I've been addicted to alcohol,
but gambling has never interested me at all.
Speaker 5 (22:59):
As you well know I'm a gambling act in recovery.
I made my last bet on April twenty seven, in
twenty fourteen. But I'm not an alcoholic. We don't know
why certain things trigger responses in people.
Speaker 4 (23:14):
I mean don't we Is it dopamine or is it
something else. It's just like a drug, alcohol addiction.
Speaker 12 (23:20):
He's now a gambling addiction therapist.
Speaker 5 (23:24):
Gambling addiction is an addiction, just like heroin and opioids,
tobacco and alcohol and cocaine.
Speaker 2 (23:31):
Yeah, And obviously we're wired differently to be susceptible to
different ones. And I also think it's one of those
that has an awful lot of peer pressure attached to it.
It's not unlike a peer pressure that we face when
it comes to being a teenager. And come on, just
have a just try this cigarette, hey, come on, just
drink this beer, right, I mean, it's all peer pressure.
Speaker 4 (23:52):
It's the same thing. Right now, I gotta tell you,
I got a bunch of buddies. We'll hang out in
half the conversation. We text.
Speaker 2 (23:59):
We live in differ parts of the country. We've all
lived near each other at some point, but we all
live in different parts of the country now. And I
gotta tell you, half the conversations are what somebody, somebody's
put money on so and so, somebody's asking should I
take this bet? I basically, and I told you I
haven't bet in a long time. And the reason I'm
(24:19):
still in this text threat is because, first of all,
I love these guys. They're They're my closest friends, close
enough I would even help them move if they asked.
So WHOA, yeah, I give them a ride to the airport.
As Mark l likes to say, that's a real test
of friends, is yep. And then a second, I love
to mock them mercilessly when they lose. Oh god, it's
(24:41):
my favorite thing to do. Oh you're seeing. All I
want for Christmas is for my parlate to hit. And
when they do that stuff, I'm just like, dear Travis,
do you think maybe you have a problem?
Speaker 4 (24:55):
Which going?
Speaker 2 (24:56):
A problem I can stop anytime I want. Okay, very good,
very good? Of course you know that every night at
ten o'clock, George Norri takes over with the Coast to
Coast and I thought I would throw out a little
UFO conspiracy culture update because we're going from the message
boards in the podcast and we're hitting one of the
(25:17):
most powerful filmmakers alive. Nobody loves aliens more than Steven Spielberg.
And it's possible that we found out why. Well, the
dark corners of the Internet are suspecting drives.
Speaker 4 (25:29):
This fascination is next.
Speaker 1 (25:31):
You're listening to KFI AM six forty on demand.
Speaker 2 (25:36):
And taking over here in about ten minutes with Coast
to Coast is the great George Norri. George, what can
we expect tonight, my friend?
Speaker 10 (25:43):
Yes, first couple hours We're going to talk about some
real science, and later on I've got a Tarot card
reader coming on the show to talk about us on
Coast to Coast.
Speaker 4 (25:53):
I love that.
Speaker 2 (25:54):
All right, George, I'll be listening. Have a great show.
Thank you very much, Thank you very much. All right,
So here we go. I save this specifically because I
wanted this to be the lead into Georgia's show.
Speaker 4 (26:09):
This is just fantastic. Steven Spielberg may actually know aliens.
Speaker 2 (26:18):
Yes, he's got a new film coming out called Disclosure Day.
And I just saw the trailer. Trailer just just dropped.
Was it yesterday or earlier today that I dropped? I
thought it was today. It today Okay, yeah, I'm saying,
like the oldest one I see is like eleven hours
ago that it went out. So yeah, and I watched
part of this trailer and it is ominous, eerie, edge
(26:41):
of your.
Speaker 4 (26:42):
Seat, Okay, whatever.
Speaker 2 (26:45):
So I love that the Internet has gone crazy and
the Internet is pretty sure thanks to Ronald Reagan that
Steven Spielberg knows aliens first of all. The movie that's
coming out, Disclosure Day, Emily Blunt, Colin Firth, joshua'connor, Coleman Domingo,
great cast.
Speaker 4 (27:04):
Love this.
Speaker 2 (27:08):
The Disclosure Day thing is about American authorities having secret
information about UFOs and extraterrestrial life and they want it
to be publicly revealed. And then they termed this all
disclosure obviously, and so they figured out a way to
disclose it to everyone all at once. That's kind of
the premise of the film, all right. That said, people
(27:29):
are going crazy about Steven Spielberg. The theory is Spielberg
has been chosen to deliver the next phase of disclosure,
not a league in the traditional sense, but a carefully
constructed big reveal. In other words, he's part of a
government conspiracy to condition us to be ready for the
(27:50):
revelation that we do have aliens among us. And I
should also point out that President Trump has a rest
tomorrow where they're not telling anybody what's going on. Is
it possible that tomorrow night we find out that we
have made contact or that indeed we do have the
(28:11):
body of an extraterrestrial? Is tomorrow the day? And I
know what you're thinking, Chris, you're crazy. Of course it's not,
and you're right, But that doesn't stop us from irresponsibly speculating. Now,
how is it that it's Reagan's fault that we all
think that Steven Spielberg has access to aliens? So et
(28:32):
comes out nineteen eighty two, All right, who's president nineteen
eighty two?
Speaker 4 (28:36):
Ronald Reagan?
Speaker 2 (28:38):
So Ronald Reagan invites Spielberg to the White House to
watch the to watch a screening of et Okay. Film
gets done. Reagan in his classic style. You know how,
he was known for delivering jokes with the very wry
(29:00):
sense of humor. And I love that, by the way.
I love a good, dry, almost British sense of humor.
It's great. He gets up and he said, this is Reagan.
There are a number of people in this room, who
know that everything on that screen is absolutely true. In
other words, he's sort of saying, ha ha ha, you
just saw a movie about the government coming in to
cover up an alien you know, alien contact.
Speaker 4 (29:22):
Ha ha ha. Obviously many people in here know that
that's totally true. Ha ha ha ha ha.
Speaker 2 (29:27):
Right, Okay, so the whole room laughs because he says,
you know, he says like a joke. Spielberg, though, in
recalling the story, said Reagan wasn't smiling as he said it.
Speaker 4 (29:39):
And so now the.
Speaker 2 (29:40):
Conspiracy theory is that the reason Spielberg is so into
aliens because it seems like everything he touches has got
aliens involved, even if it doesn't have aliens involved. He
crow bars aliens in see Indiana Jones, Crystal Skull, and
and so the reason that he's so obsessed with that
is because he knows the truth.
Speaker 4 (30:04):
That's it. He knows the truth. But then there's another
conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (30:10):
Are you ready for the conspiracy theory.
Speaker 4 (30:13):
It is a meta conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (30:15):
It is a conspiracy theory about the conspiracy theory.
Speaker 4 (30:20):
First of all, first conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (30:22):
Steven Spielberg been hired by the government to try to
condition us to get ready for a revelation that aliens
are among us.
Speaker 4 (30:28):
Boom conspiracy theory, second conspiracy theory.
Speaker 2 (30:31):
The first conspiracy theory was planted in order to create
additional buzz around everything. Spielberg touches yep, and now my
watch is listening. I don't know if you've heard that.
Did they come out over there? Did you hear that?
I thought you were talking to someone, Yeah, my watch was.
My watch was listening and jumped right in. So obviously
(30:52):
the government is in on that too. They're listening and
they know what's up. So they say that the secrecy,
the the hush hush, and now this little buzz could
be a strategy to build this hype for a film.
Speaker 4 (31:09):
Who I guess.
Speaker 2 (31:10):
Spielberg hasn't had a hit since Ready Player one. Mark
you and I didn't even see that one. I didn't either.
Speaker 7 (31:19):
It's been a while since he's done something super popular.
I mean, and that's after making the first blockbuster, which was.
Speaker 11 (31:25):
John How old did the Fableman's Do?
Speaker 4 (31:30):
I didn't see that either. I didn't.
Speaker 11 (31:31):
They received seven Oscar nominations.
Speaker 7 (31:34):
We got those in our sag after screeners, and I
just couldn't bring myself to sit through.
Speaker 4 (31:38):
It was that? Was that Spielberg? Yeah, I didn't.
Speaker 7 (31:42):
It wasn't going with David Lynch as as John Houston
or no was produced by Spielberg, not John Houston, because
it was supposed to be loosely about.
Speaker 2 (31:52):
Oh yea yea yeah yeah, okay, yeah yeah yeah, directed
by oh yeah, directed by Spielberg, written by Spielberg.
Speaker 4 (31:58):
Huh, No, I didn't see it. I should have watched that.
Everyone was good. That's a fun watch, is it? Yeah?
Speaker 8 (32:05):
Is it?
Speaker 4 (32:05):
Aliens?
Speaker 13 (32:06):
I remember the good kind of in a way. It's
actually kind of its kind of touching on what's happening
now with everyone using what is it, the the meta
thing that they used for virtual reality. It's like that
yeah reality mask thing are ar? Yeah? Yeah, all right,
(32:30):
I'm down. I got nothing else anybody else? No, all good.
It's probably a good time to just end it. Then,
Love you guys.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
Uh foosh as always brother, virtual fist bump Mark. I
think we're the opportunity for me to take the lead, don't.
We're tired. We're tired. We're gonna end on a tie today.
You know why?
Speaker 4 (32:52):
No? I do not know why, because we're both Yeah,
complete pros. Yes we are. I think the tie remains. Yeah.
And then Nikki, Yes, yeah, you punched in today too.
Speaker 7 (33:05):
With Chips, Nicky's great.
Speaker 4 (33:11):
Early as m R for the night.
Speaker 2 (33:13):
All Right, we'll see if we can. Uh, we'll see
we can bring you up a little better tomorrow. We'll
give it a shot anyway. It's Chris Merrill talking brut
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